Scouting the market
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 27, 2010 3:13 PM PDT
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PrintI’m a stats guy. I’m a scouting guy. Love ‘em both. Both disciplines complement each other. I’m like Spencer Tracy at the end of "Inherit the Wind" – except instead of slapping together a Bible and The Origin of the Species, I’m slapping together a Baseball Prospectus and a Baseball America Prospect Handbook. I’m not too bright, and I’m not exactly competent in either discipline, but I try.
With that written, I always have the same question when I read something like this:
#giants have been heavily scouting jose guillen.
Why?
What could a scout possibly say about Jose Guillen that 6238 plate appearances couldn’t? What could a Giants scout possibly discern over a series or two that would trump the data that have already been collected? I could scout Guillen for free – even better, I’ll just say that I scouted him and hang out in a bar all day.
Guillen has pretty good raw power, but his approach is a little lacking. He’s prone to striking out, and he doesn’t work the count especially well. At his peak, he was able to hit enough line drives to keep his average up – but that hasn’t been the case for three years now, and he isn’t getting younger.As a fielder, he’s a fine DH. His arm is strong, but his range is lacking.
I’ll be in the bar if you need me.
I can understand scouting minor league prospects. I can also understand scouting guys like Nate Schierholtz, who still doesn’t have a ton of big-league experience. But Jose Guillen? Why waste the airfare? If a scout sees something he doesn’t like, well, there shouldn’t be a reason to like Guillen less. He has a .333 on-base percentage and limited range. His power is okay, but it’s 20- 25-homer power, which isn’t anything super special to write home about.
If a scout sees something he likes, there’s no way it should be important enough for a GM to think differently. There isn’t anything a scout can see in a series or two that should make anyone think with certainty, "Oh, this guy is better than his numbers indicate." For a prospect? Sure, I can buy that. For Jose Guillen? Not so much.
This isn’t specific to the Giants, who might not have even sent scouts to watch Guillen. Just because a tweet was twote doesn’t make it so. But you always read that scouts are being sent places to watch established players. I’m just not sure why. A reasonable answer might exist. Unreasonable answers and attempts at comedy will also be accepted in the comments section.
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Scouts have to watch him strikeout in person.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Dayton wouldn't trade that away
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WARiness(see: truthiness) somewhere around 30 this year. Knows how to win, has grit.
All major league scouts should play fantasy baseball
It’s the best way to determine which players are good and which ones are utterly useless. Like the fact that Jose Bautista is (inexplicably) amazing and Jose Guillen is (quite explicably) terrible.
At that point, the only thing the scout will need to account for is defense. It’s the FO’s job to account for money.
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The more I think about who’s attainable, and what it might take to attain them, I’m starting to come around on Bautista. Especially if it can get done for Burriss/Adrianza. That might be pretty sweet.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
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As a fielder, he’s a fine DH.
lol
His arm is strong, but his range is lacking.
Should fit in fine in the G’s infield. Oh … he’s an OF.
Where’s the bar?
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- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Right side of the infield is pretty damn good
Ishi can pick it and Sanchez has been terrific. As for the left side. Blech.
really?
Not my estimation at all. Uribe has booted a coupla balls and Panda’s range could be better, but I’d be surprised if all the fielding metrics don’t show them as average or a bit above. They both have rockets for arms, as well.
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I cannot buy fielding metrics
Sorry. There are just too many variables. Uribe does not have the range of a quality SS. He’s been servicable. Great arm.
Panda is also servicable at third. Its hard to gauge “range” at third. But I don’t think he gets to balls going to his left that the better 3b’s get to.
The elft side has been better than I thought it would be this year. Still its average at best.
fair enough
1. I don’t generally equate “blech” with average, so I thought you were saying they were below average.
B. I can’t really back a single fielding metric, but I suspect that in aggregate they are helpful in gauging the relative goodness of a fielder. and, as I said, I bet the metrics in aggregate would be friendly to Jazzy and Panda.
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I believe Pablo was a a small amount in the negative according to UZR last season. I doubt he has gotten any better.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
well clearly that means UZR is profoundly flawed
/sarchasm
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IIRC he was -6
I could be wrong though
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I really don’t see what’s objectionable about range stats. It’s exactly what you do with your eyes (this guy can only run this far to his left!), except actually measured.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants have the best defensive data gathering ability of any MLB franchise
Sportvision Field F/X has been installed at the yard for a year and a half now. The only thing left to consider is if they actually use that data.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
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I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
has anyone eaten at Public House? worth trying?
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hmm
2010 – 3rd in the league in UZR, 2nd in RZR, pitchers, pitchers 8th in BABIP
2009 – 2nd in the league in UZR, (tied) 2nd in RZR, pitchers 4th in BABIP
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Let me take a shot
First (and maybe there are adjustments for this) it depends in part on the infield. Take Arizona versus Mays Field. The former is lighting fast. The latter, not so much so.
Second is the staff. Third is just plain luck (probalby evens out over the year). One can show off the range on a 14 hopper a lot more than a scorching 2 hopper.
So I have a real problem with range metrics.
But the first and the third thing get taken care of with a large enough sample just by washing out data-wise. If you have problems with the sample size issues of range stats, that seems like a different thing altogether to me, and one that I agree with.
And I’m not really sure what the staff has to do with things. Once a ball is in play, it’s in play.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The pitching staff might affect the size of the sample (sinkerballers producing more ground-balls for the infielders, etc.) but I can’t see how much of an affect the pitcher has on the quality of the defense. If you consider game-pace to be an issue, it’s much more the fielder’s fault for losing focus when the game slows than it is the pitcher’s for slowing the game.
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How bout how hard the ball is hit
C’mon. You’ve all seen pitchers that are masters at getting hitters off balance and hitting weak grounders pop ups etc. That makes any fielder look better.
I know I’m at a site that loves these metrics. And I’m listening. But I’m a very tough sell on fielding metrics. To me, that is an eyes thing first and a fielding pct thing second. (Although the latter is affected by what I percieve to often be atrocious official score keeping).
Look, I don’t think defensive metrics are totally figured out yet, either. I do think that they have some serious advantages over “eye reports” because they’re not as subject to bias. Still, I’m not buying the pitcher argument because it was my impression that the stats show that, beyond ground ball v ball in air, pitchers don’t have a tremendous impact on the quality of balls in play.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Still, I’m not buying the pitcher argument because it was my impression that the stats show that, beyond ground ball v ball in air, pitchers don’t have a tremendous impact on the quality of balls in play.
Pretty much this. Probably one of the reasons that BABIP is pretty tightly clustered around 0.300.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
In truth, I was thinking about the left side ...
and only about the range … except for GAR, arms and catching are fine.
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Sandoval, Uribe, and Renteria all seem to have pretty limited range, but I don’t think their overall defense has been bad.
Thing A
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I don't disagree
Its just that I’d like to see a SS that can really pick it on a team that is centered around pitching. A SS with real range would help Panda quite a bit as well.
Uribe and Rent have done a nice job given their limited range and Rent’s limited arm. All you can ask for of a PLAYER is that they reach their abilities. Its up to the front office to get better ability if that doesn’t measure up.
Jimmy Rollins, 2012.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
What would you rather have
great defense and TERRIBLE hitting? Or passable defense and pretty good hitting given their position? Uribe and Rent have been hitting pretty well for SS. I’ll take their defense if they continue hitting well
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with respect to Rent. I just don’t.
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As Casey Stengel famously said . . .
. . .you could look it up.
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The Bill James theory . . .
. . . which I agree with, is that speed and ball judgement in the outfield are rather more important than defense in the infield.
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speaking of which, Pat Burrell is a terrible outfielder. He's like a ball dude out there.
….just jog towards it, pick it up and throw it in. There’s no clank, because the ball has usually stopped rolling by the time he gets it.
Okay, exaggeration. But really.
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ok i'll bite
First, let me state this: I DO NOT WANT JOSE GUILLEN. Now, I’ll try to repsond to the why scout veterans question: because you need to see how they look at this particular juncture.
Specific example: Renteria. Lets say you are on the marketr for a veteran to fill a hole at SS and he is on your radar. (I know not likely but it will help prove my point). You know his body of work, but he’s had health issues, is older blah blah. So you watch himj for a few games to see how he looks. If you went last night, you conclude he looks old. Very old. Tired. Very tired. Slow. Very slow. And you pass.
As for Guillen. Gawd I hope not. I could handle Podsednik if they give up next to nothing cause he has speed and the Giants desperately need some. Plus he has a decent OBP. . Plus he’s a lefty. Guillen? Nothing.
Pretty much this
Scouting a known player is not intended to determine what type of player he has been; it is what type of player he is now. Is he hurt/playing through an injury? How much have his skills eroded? Can I squeeze a productive 150 to 200 at-bats out of him?
That sort of thing.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
And the answer is a clear cut no.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. I don’t know if you saw the recent news that teams are souring on Mike Lowell. They’re basing that opinion on what they saw at the Pawtucket @ Columbus games in which Mike Lowell was rehabbing, and looked like he needed a cane to walk around.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yea. pretty much this.
Remember when the Giants heavily scouted Ugeth Urbina and passed on him due to an alarming decay in velocity? And then he friggin’ killed a guy
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by milesntrane on Jul 27, 2010 5:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This, basically.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Minus the Podsednik thing.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah comon Clayton
As I said: “if we can get him for next to nothing.” Speed baby. The Ginats could sure use some. Another decent lefthanded bat would help as well. Again, I mean what I say – maybe cash or a low level minor leaguer.
I’m meh about Pods. The Giants could use another lefthanded bat, but I’d rather they just call up Bowker and work on acquiring a reliever.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
As for Guillen. Gawd I hope not. I could handle Podsednik if they give up next to nothing cause he has speed and the Giants desperately need some. Plus he has a decent OBP. . Plus he’s a lefty. Guillen? Nothing.
Yea, this. I never thought I’d say this but I could live with Scotty Pods as long as they dont give up much.
Thing A
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Got it. I didn’t think to assume that the Giants would start with a “he was good, maybe he’s still got it” standpoint. That makes sense.
Okay. Post over.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
your capitalization will certainly make Sabean sit up and take notice.
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Lars we agree
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I'll try a legit answer
I would guess they’re scouting Guillen to see things like his bat speed…? maybe? I dunno. All I know is I don’t want Jose Guillen on the Giants.
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OT:
Ouch. Huston Street was just taken away on a stretcher after being hit by a line drive in the midsection during BP.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
That’s what I’m hearing.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That's how Houdini died
Though I don’t know why he was out there tossing BP…
I imagine Street wasn’t actually throwing BP.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t really matter as far as the Rockies and anyone else should be concerned, but I am wondering how this happened. During hitting rehearsal you’re normally either way away in the outfield or behind the cage. I suppose if you’re wandering around (possibly in transit) just beyond the protection of the cage and a foul ball goes your way, then it could happen like that.
by non sequitur on Jul 27, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I would think only if the manager and coaches are attempting to murder the pitchers.
by non sequitur on Jul 27, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Duh. Obviously you meant the pitchers hit and then run the bases. Here I was thinking they have the pitchers run while OTHER people take BP. LOL me.
by non sequitur on Jul 27, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh but wait, how you could you get hit running the bases unless it was someone else hitting. LOL the LOL me.
by non sequitur on Jul 27, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
During BP, players practice running bases while other players hit. Yes, it happens! I’ve seen it several times! What I don’t know is if pitchers participate in this activity, because they are usually done with BP by the time I get there.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
Don’t pitchers usually shag fly balls during BP?
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
Yowza.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow.
Rox trainer Keith Dugger said Street was hit in pelvic area. He fainted “2 or 3 times” from pain
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like broken bones.
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
Or a shot in the nads.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Possibly broken nad(s).
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 27, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Broken bads?
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 27, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Refer hin to ManRam
Maybe he has some of those female hormone vials left to heal Street’s pelvis/uterus.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
I came along later and liked BB more cos more metal.
Now that I am older I realize the error of my ways.
Remember when Grave New World came out and people flipped their shit?
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I do… somewhat hazily as I spent the mid to late 80’s diligently abusing my liver (among other things). I was one of the people flipping out and railing against spandex clad hair farmers. Live and learn…
I did see Discharge at the Mab one time and it was pretty out of control.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
damn!
what year might that have been?
did you play in bands back then or just spectate?
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84, maybe 85… it was senior year or shortly after.
I was in a few bands briefly – Wig Torture, Vanilla Whores… but mostly spectating.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
rad.
i didn’t get out here til ’90. totally missed the Mab scene, first generation Gilman stuff was already winding down … got here just in time for the Primus/Fungo Mungo Funksplosion, though!
/cries
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Dude, you are a bass player. This is good news.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Comparitively speaking
I was a Geezer Butler/John Entwhistle/John Paul Jones inspired bass player in the time of hair bands. It sucked.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
John Entwhistle was the man. Fucking stoic.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
top 5 all time
easily
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I just love the way he’d stand there looking like he was in line at the DMV. Meanwhile, he’s laying down ridiculous licks.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
THE OX
Turn on Live at Leeds, throw the balance all the way to one side so you get all Ox/no Townshend, rock out!
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That band was just so ridiculously talented. Keith, Pete and John in one band? Good lord.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Roger wasn’t a slouch either.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
disagree
as long as Pete still wrote the songs, you could plug in any ol’ grtrist and singer. The Who was defined by having two lead players in the rhythm section.
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I agree about John and Keith being the virtuosos if you will, but a weak singer would get buried in that band, making the overall band weaker. Roger held his own in my mind. I mean, the Who would have sucked with Justin Bilemel or whoever singing.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
I read that as Justin Bieber and briefly envisioned a terrible version of The Who.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s who I was thinking of to illustrate my point. I should have wrote Justin Bileber.
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LOL Bieber singing something like “I woke up in a Soho doorway. A policeman knew my name”.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes me sad listening to bands that are drum-driven, but have drummers that can’t play melody. Keith was just so imaginative and talented. I still love drum-driven music, but no one did it as well as Keith.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The greatest thing was sneaking into the Mab as a 15 year old freshman to see my (much older and as it turns out, lesbian) girlfriend’s band A Happy Death play with 1/2 Church in like ’81… for a kid from the suburbs it was a crazy awakening. But by the time I was attending a lot of shows most everything had moved upstairs to the On Broadway.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
... could use some long relief
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
AW MAN! WHY IS ALL THE GOOD PORN ON PAY SITES?
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Only if you pony up for the Insider… wait, that sounds dirty.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
A Klesko-like follow through.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, that reminds me of Nuschler more than anyone
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS
I am 12 years old and what is this
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
take it up with Bernie Law
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Plans to airbrush all shots of Buster on next Sunday Night Baseball ....
… now being reconsidered by ESPN producers.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Idiot Savant doesn't know how he does it
See the ball, hit the ball.
Buster knows
"My My, Hey Hey .... GIDP is here to stay."
Bork Never Sleeps
use reply please
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Repost: Because of outrage over the lack of mentioning of Buster Posey
5. San Francisco Giants
SBN Blog: McCovey Chronicles
2010 record: 56-44
Last week’s rank: 10
Last week’s Beyond The Box Score rank: 18
Possibly the hottest team in baseball right now, having gone 15-4 since Independence Day. They’ve allowed more than five runs once over that time, and have held the opposition to two runs or fewer in seven of the past 13 games. The enchantingly-named Madison Bumgarner has blossomed, with a 1.87 ERA over five starts, while bullpen arms Sergio Romo and Brian Wilson have allowed one run in 22.2 innings
Someone better get fired
The site is beyond the box score. Posey is prominently displayed in the box score, therefore they search for something else to talk about!
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
raises box scores from the dead
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
INDEPENDENCE DAY
JULY 1, 2010
Molina Traded!
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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WHY DO PEOPLE GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT
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they just love to piss you off.
that’s the only thing I can figure.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
In response to something on the last thread
Comments on post-game threads in relation to Giants games above .500. It’s only for this year, so it might not be that useful since the Giants have never been below .500, but whatever.
The box represents the interquartile range, and the top and bottom of the whiskers are the highest and lowest number of comments. Judging by this, there doesn’t seem to be a correlation.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
concur
nice work, grab yourself a diet coke.
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Diet sodas in general are nasty.
I’m currently on a Mexican Coke kick. Real sugar FTW!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
negative
non-diet coke and pepsi leave a terrible aftertaste.
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--Daisy Owl
only good when it's in crown royal
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by bondslegend on Jul 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like regular Pepsi, but regular coke tastes wrong to me.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re doing it wrong.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I can dig Pepsi Throwback
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Hell no. They used real sugar instead of corn syrup.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
The Mountain Dew throwback was completely awesome. But for some reason, the Dr. Pepper throwback was not.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
why did they stop with those?!
THEY WERE SO MUCH BETTER
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I still buy them when I happen to find them, which is not that often anymore.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
actually not that bad
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That’s what my dealer said.
Kidding! I actually prefer Diet Dr. Pepper.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
Diet Dr Pepper
is manna from heaven.
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--Daisy Owl
only one N in mana
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
not the case?
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
nope, dude's right
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unless you are talking about food provided by god for the israelites, then yes.
If you are talking about magical spiritual deliciousness, then it’s mana.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/tap
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I’d tap that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
you forgot upkeep.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
well, manna from heaven would be 2 ns then
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‘Manna from heaven’ was the food provided by God to the Israelites… that’s where the expression comes from.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Man it’s tough trying to make Magic The Gathering Jokes around here =/
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I hate that game
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it hates you right back
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
except for when you get it from a fountain
for some reason it always tastes off
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I like it better from a fountain. But, that’s true of all soda for me, so maybe I’m just weird.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
I like most sodas better from a fountain
except diet dr pepper. I’m not even really sure what it it, it just doesn’t quite taste right. Maybe it’s because it’s really hard to find, so I’m just not used to it
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
The Jack in the Box in Folsom has it now. Before, I’d only ever seen it at mini marts.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
yeah i saw it there
I think CJ’s has it too, and Arco on folsom blvd
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
The Raley’s gas station on Blue Ravine and East Natoma has it, too.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
there's a Raley's over there now?
yikes, I don’t go over to that part of town often enough…
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Yep, lots of stuff built in on the Raley's corner
Probably the best Chinese place in Folsom is over by the Raley’s (Sunny Garden).
ditto
I really like the place off Iron Point and Folsom, by Chili’s
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
My parents live right there, and I’m not too far away. That shopping center has Subway, a nail place (of course), a dry cleaner (of course), a Big Spoon, a Wells Fargo and three restaurants all owned by the same guy — Sports Garage, Mexquite and Early Toast. I saw FP Santangelo at Early Toast once.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
oh that's where Sports Garage is
I know one of the bartenders there, but I’ve never been
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
do you ever go to sutter st?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Mountain Dew is best from a fountain. Next best is from a can. I do not like to drink it from a plastic bottle.
I obviously spend too much time thinking about Mountain Dew.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
TWSS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
mountain dew is, like, the MOST unhealthy beverage in existence
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Diet Dr. Pepper is the best diet drink
because the regular Dr. Pepper already has that artificial sweetener aftertaste
Pepsi products awful
Coke > Pepsi
Diet Coke > Pepsi
Spirit > Sierra Mist
Minute Maid > Sunkist
Cherry Coke > Cherry Pepsi
Fanta = best soda ever
Only win for Pepsi is Mugs over Barq
mmm fanta is so good
take some strawberry fanta, mix it with dr. pepper = heaven.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I prefer Pepsi to Coke, even though I like Coke. I agree with that list, then, except for Diet Coke > Pepsi. Nothing is worse than Diet Coke. What a disgusting product. Coke Zero wins, hands down.
diet pepsi is worse than diet coke
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I knew you were smart
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no, it actually doesn't
diet pepsi tastes like liquified shit, or at least what I imagine liquified shit would taste like
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Ugh, Cherry Pepsi sucks.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
cherry anything sucks
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Lies.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
false
barqs is awesome
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A&W or bust
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
well, obv
on tap FTW. But if you have to choose between barqs and mug I choose barqs
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fuck this rootbeer shit though
Sarsaparilla
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I like that stuff
not available in a lot of places around here though
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you can get this at any Ranch 99
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I live in the middle of nowhere dude
pretty sure there’s not anything with asian characters on it within 2000 miles of me
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well maybe in minneapolis and chicago I guess..
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I fucking hate coastal elitists
OMG U LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CUNTREE IT MUST SUCK
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chasm? I didn’t see anyone claiming that.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
oh man were you on TV last night with the hot pink shirt and bandana?
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Apparently Ranch 99 has 28 locations in 5 states. I did not know that. There’s one pretty close to my house, but I’ve onyl seen one other.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I’ve only been to the one in Irvine.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The one off of 5.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Where are the ones in the Bay?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a couple in Fremont, one in Dublin, one in Pleasanto
A bunch in the South Bay
One in Richmond
Awesome, thanks.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
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wow
wow
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Good man
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Jul 27, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
how do you not notice it?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
ah
possible, haven’t had it
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
It’s all about Diet Pepsi.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Diet Pepsi is how I stay awake in the OR.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I sometimes get you two confused
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Pepsi Max
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
YES
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Diet Rootbeer and Diet sunkist are pretty good
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 27, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
these are all acceptable
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--Daisy Owl
I would suggest doing a time series on the expression "fat fuck."
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
OT:
iPad owners are selfish elitists!
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
I would actually really like an iPad so’s I could be in McCoven threads whilst sitting on the couch watching the game.
As it stands, I may have lucked into a Powerbook G4.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jul 27, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
IT'S 2010!
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
My old Titanium G4 has a rough time keeping up with GDTs..
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
holy shit
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WHAT?!?!!?!!?!
MY WHOLE WORLDVIEW IS SHATTERED
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Just to provide a counter-argument...
when the Giants signed Huff, a lot of people looked at his stats and figured he’s dona as a hitter and his defense sucks. Perhaps the Giants scouted him (or watched film) and saw something. Same with Burrell. I don’t know.
Not saying I want Guillen, but I don’t think there’s any harm in scouting the dude.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Speaking of Burrell
What does Guillen offer that he doesn’t?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Anger, ego.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants do need some more Gin
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I have the Tonic!
Mmmmmm
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Tonic?
If you could only see the way…
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I have lemon juice and soda water, too. Your choice.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Gin & Juice
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I put my scouting faith in Scout6
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
My guess
Perhaps they think there’s an off chance the scout may notice a fixable flaw in the player’s swing/wind-up or somesuch.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
I could maybe see that...
…in the case of someone who’s having a season way out of line with his career. But Guillen is not:
2010: .271/.333/.457
Career: .271/.323/.443
So, the scout would be looking for a fixable flaw that hasn’t been fixed by 8 major league teams over 14 seasons.
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW
Without the defense. And the contract extending into 2014.
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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The stick by which all targets must be measured
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
On time post is on time
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
by DrStankus on Jul 27, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
GRANT STEALS POSTS
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/6/30/1545805/maybe-they-couldnt-afford-tickets
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jul 27, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL man's inhumanity to man
“Great minds think alike.”
Also, I am aware that Cookyman’s accusation is kidding
Hey, there’s a mention in there of my favorite-named Reds pitcher, The Cure.
by non sequitur on Jul 27, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
CALL LIGHTMAN!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
A richly deserved one at that!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
god that show is terrible
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Who the fuck rec'd that comment, anyway?
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 27, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re math majors, we’re English majors, but we’re in the same frat. And we totally pop our collars.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 28, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I reckon
I’m probably the only one here who would be amused at the fact that “Jose Guillen” anagrams into JELLO GENIUS.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 27, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions
nope, that’s rad.
I also like that Buster Posey anagrams to SUPERBEST YO
His name is Ydwin, your argument is invalid.
by microwave donut on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
WHAT WILL ESPN AIR NOW?
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
BRETT FAVRE
I’m not some Nerd-fuck who’s measuring REAL accomplishments against hypothetical BULLSHIT modeling and mythical probability graphs.
doing to Madame LeFavre. Dickens for adults
"My My, Hey Hey .... GIDP is here to stay."
Bork Never Sleeps
/Nationals Park begins emptying
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
When Miguel Batista was announced as the starting pitcher, the large crowd at Nationals Park, expecting to see the 22-year-old phenom, booed.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Klass.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jul 27, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I bought this nice convertible sports car
But they gave me a 1978 VW Bus
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
LOL NOT UNDERSTANDING “PROBABLES”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jul 27, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on now
You go to a game the Tim Lincecum is supposed to pitch, and Guillermo Mota makes the start. You would be disappointed
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
Yeah, but I’m not going to not go. Shit like that happens in baseball.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jul 27, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Who said anyone would leave?
I just understand the booing. I wouldnt boo myself, but I understand it
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
I’d love Weeks at 2B right now.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
stone glove
move him to the OF, worked for Velez
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Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
UZR has him only slightly below average past 3 years..
With that said, even if his glove is weak, his bat makes up for it.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Yes and No
yes, I would take him over Freddy
no, for the money and talent it would take to get an keep him
and despite the stats I honestly think Errors are more damaging than lack of Range
and lets not forget his season high in games in 129, making Ray Durham look like Cal Ripken
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Say Hey Say Willie, that Giant Kid is Great!
FUCK
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
LOL YOUR POKEMONZ!
keithlaw
Strasburg is getting an x-ray and an MRI … because he “couldn’t get loose” before the game? Gonna sequence his DNA too?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This one was public
Apparently, he only berates people with direct messages. Or maybe he only berates me with direct messages.
/shrug
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
She stopped answering me
I think her husband was getting jealous.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I HAI, MR. AMY!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I would
Except everyone else would just tell us to get a room.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, that.
Did you see the link earlier to the Google search for hotels? That was pretty clever.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
They were all around here though
Not very convenient for you.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps something close to AT&T ;)
/left foot: Red
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent choice
/left hand: Blue
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
paid like 5 bucks for the dude. Not a huge loss. He’s already gotten me back in the race
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Thanks to roger
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/mentions fantasy baseball team
Shift-A
I’ve been running around like a blind chicken at work today. I hope the Giants didn’t do anything stupid.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions
PODS
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
In retrospect,
I should’ve said I DON’T BELIEVE YOU
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
cain for fielder
I’m so 2009
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AND THEN WALLACE BOUGHT HIM SUSHI
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I want a memory cam.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
So… nobody else read Scott Pilgrim 6 yet?
I liked it!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Aw man, I want to see the movie. Is it better than the trailers?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t cared for the advertising, but let’s get past that.
Did you like it?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw it two days after Inception, so it was tough not to compare my immediate reactions… Inception was “better” in terms of Summer Movies 2010 … on its own, for what it was, it felt like a 3.5 or maybe 4 out of 5. As a stranger to the “books” I can’t comment on the universe too much, but I loved the idea of the movie, the metaphor of fighting for love — literally. And I thought that it worked to have the dream girl become real and that would be our shorthand for understanding Scott’s desire, the problem is, the movie doesn’t “sell” the dream girl angle and then fails to get the audience (or me, anyway) to care enough about Scott and Ramon’s relationship. At the end of the day, I didn’t care enough about their love story to love the movie. The visuals, music and comedy were stellar, though.
Slightly OT
Although it does fit into the general theme of this thread – why do our GM/manager suck so much?
Tonight’s lineup:
RF Torres
2B Sanchez
LF Huff
C Posey
3B Uribe
1B Ishikawa
CF Rowand
SS Renteria
P Cain
Wasn’t it a given that Rowand will get about a week’s worth of starts in CF based on what he did in 2 ABs last night?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Oh boy, Rowand against Johnson tonight should be epic comedy.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe Sanchez is back in the 2 hole.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Renteria last night: 0-5
Sanchez last night: 2-4
Science
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate his hot hand mentality
But between Rent and Sanchez, I definitely prefer SAnchez in the two hole.
how does it feel to be wrong?
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--Daisy Owl
rent >> sanchez w/ the bat
both over this season, and their careers
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--Daisy Owl
they're closer than I remembered
but Edgar still wins out (100 wRC+ vs. 97 wRC+)
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
They’re essentially identical hitters, and Renteria added a little with his baserunning, which is no longer relevant. Sanchez is also younger.
I was promised lasagna.
meh
i’ll accept essentially identical, i guess, 3% isn’t a huge margin. I’d still rather have Rent bat 2nd if i’m stuck picking between the two of them.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
If based on a career
I agree. But Renteria does not look particularly good right now. His bat is SLOW.
that's more of a day to day thing though
he looked fine on the road trip
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Similar, but not identical:
Careers:
Renteria OBP = .342
FSanchez OBP = .325
Renteria TOP = 768
FSanchez TOP = 741
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Until I’m actually given a reason to use TOP instead of the commonly used wOBA, I don’t see any reason to not ignore it. Their wOBA’s are virtually identical, and that’s with Renteria adding some runs with stolen bases. The difference is completely negligible.
I was promised lasagna.
The reason . . .
. . . or a reason, is not occult. You could look it up.
How do you combine wOBAs to get team runs scored? (Not a rhetorical question.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
(Team wOBA * Team PA’s) / 1.15
wOBA is more in the business of calculating what player X would add to the average team, rather than what a team made entirely of player X’s would do (which is what RC/27, and, unless I’m wrong, TOP do). If a player hit a HR every single PA, his TOP would be infinity, right?
I was promised lasagna.
I think it’s actually (team wOBA – league wOBA) / 1.15 * (team plate appearances). Or something like that.
Fangraphs also calculates wRC, which derives (I think) from the same formula. It currently has the Giants at 435 runs, vs. 443 in the real world.
slack
Churros sucks too, and Burrell can’t play defense.
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Are there any kind OTHER than deep fried? If so, they must suck.
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I think you are think of the regular deep fried churros...
I am thinking of the churros fried…rebattered and refried…
it's how I spell
Scheirholtz
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Burrell's defense . . .
. . . in sum is not the problem: his slowness is. What he can get to, he will usually catch; what he cannot get to, he will usually recognize, and play as well as his speed allows; when he has the ball, he normally knows just where to throw it, and throws it with reasonable accuracy and strength. Speed is important, and makes his net defensive value sub-par, but that is not the same as being “a bad fielder” (c.f. Lewis, F., or, nowadays, Rowand, A.).
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So?
Results are what matters. Burrell doesn’t catch enough balls. That he does it gracefully helps no one.
I was promised lasagna.
Not the point.
A bad fielder will mess up balls he gets to. He will literally throw himself off his feet to make a poor throw to the wrong place. And so on. A fielder with Burrell’s “speed” who also did those things would be vastly worse than Burrell, and there are folk like that even in the majors. Yes, Burrell doesn’t catch enough balls—no one is arguing that he’s a better-than-average fielder. But some people with his physical abilities are a lot worse overall.
In fact, Baseball-Reference.com’s Rtot/year defense metric shows Burrell as -3 runs/season as a left fielder over his career. If there is someone who can class that as disastrous, I would like to know what really bad fielding is.
Aaron Rowand has appeared in LF in 98 games, though in only 3 as a starter, so the data are arguably minimal; nonetheless, for what they may be worth, his Rtot/year as a left fielder is -19 runs. As a center fielder, he is +5 per season, which I would be inclined to call decent but not exciting.
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I don’t know what’s Rtot/year, but it still has him as pretty terrible over the past 5 years (obviously he didn’t play defense in one of them). UZR has him as 8 runs below average per year over his career, and 13 runs per year over the past 5 years. That is indeed pretty terrible. CF’s are better than corner OF’s by about 10 runs, so even using BBR’s numbers, Rowand is better than Burrell by almost two wins on defense, which is quite a lot.
And it’s not just stats – check out his Fan Scouting Reports from the past 3 years – Burrell is consitently ranked as one of the worst LF’s in the majors. He’s not Jack Cust, but he’s also not that far.
I was promised lasagna.
I don't either.
But, as I think (and am not alone in so thinking) that all of these fielding stats are only a quick half-step from useless, I don’t worry much about it. If it’s good enough for Baseball-Reference.com, it’s good enough to talk about.
I am unclear what you are citing. Burrell’s career Rtot/year as a left fielder is -3; his 2010 as a Giant is -4 (and, again, thsese are all pro-rated to “seasonal”, which is, I believe, 135 games).
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Well, you’ve made two different arguments against defensive stats here, and I’ve replied to both of them.
I am unclear what you are citing
His career UZR is bad. His Rtot over the past 5 years is terrible. His UZR over the past 5 years is terrible.
And, like I said, it’s not just stats, as the fans who’ve watched him consistently rank his as one of the worst fielding OF’s in the majors. It doesn’t get any less arguable than this – the fans and all the defensive stats agree that he is terrible defensively.
I was promised lasagna.
Jolly good.
But I think that Colin Wyers probably knowns more about it than either of us, and he seems to be saying—follow the link—that in fact we really don’t know very much about what these metrics really measure and whether they’re very much good at all.
If you want to look at a stat, any stat, you have to either look at all of it or give some good reason for eliding what you’re eliding. His career Rtot/year is a very modest -3 runs compared to the average left fielder; his Rtot/year for 2010 to date is right in line with that, at -4 runs. If you want to make a case that his 2010, which is virtually identical to his career, is substantially wrong, selecting some other period and saying “But he was bad here” isn’t the answer.
If you credit defensive stats, at least one widely cited one says he’s not that bad career-wise or in 2010; if you don’t credit defensive stats, selcting some arbitrary subset of one is pointless and hypocriticial. And if you want to build a case on “the fans say”, well, that’s another can of worms altogether.
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One needn’t cherry-pick when it comes to Burrell, though. All measurements that I’m aware of indicate that he’s a poor fielder.
Colin Wyers makes much of the lack of agreement between UZR and Plus/minus; well, they agree on Burrell. So does your chosen metric, Rtot, though it’s kinder to him than the others. The fan scouting report says he’s abysmal. And he got shunted onto the DH track the minute he hit free agency, which tells you what MLB as a whole thinks of his skills.
There’s no reasonable argument that Burrell is not a poor fielder. The question, which we can’t answer with any authority at this point, is how many runs he costs you when he’s in the field, with plausible answers ranging from “a few” to “enough to completely negate the value of his bat.”
Oh, my.
All measurements that I’m aware of indicate that he’s a poor fielder.
Didn’t we just get through looking at a widely used defense metric that says something very different about his career? (And his 2010.)
I am not claiming that Burrell is a glove whiz: I am only saying that some extant metrics—though all are dubious—show him only quite slightly below average on a career basis. All for all, it looks well worth it for what he brings to the plate on offense. (And why Bochy insists on treating him as a slightly glorified scrub when he has the fourth-best offense numbers on the team, right after Posely, Huff, and Torres, is beyond me.)
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If you choose to define “poor fielder” in such a way as to exclude a man who has averaged three runs below par thoughout his career, and a good bit worse in recent years, while playing one of the two positions to which the slowest and most inept fielders are assigned — well, that’s your prerogative, though your standards are certainly different than mine.
But if you want to make a realistic and objective assessment of the man’s skills, you need to recognize that that minus-3 seems to be a clear upper bound. Which means that he could be quite bad indeed.
Rowand apparently has big numbers against the Fish
They were talking about it on the rap last nite. Ownage stuff. Always bizarre. But it is uncanny how often it holds true to form
really?
c’mon.
These sample sizes are so small as to be meaningless.
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Not meaningless at all
Because it impacts the players confidence. Hell I remember when Krukow pitched he could throw his glove out against the Mets, and he’d whip em. Conversely Cain has never beat the Dodgers. You doln’t think that gets in his mind? And you don’t think that makes a difference??
It seems like the Giants scoring a few runs would make a bigger difference.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain has pitched quite a few very good games against the Dodgers. The Giants have also won games that Cain started against the Dodgers.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'm hoping Cain wins Sunday
and then you can tell me to shut the f**k up! He draws Kershaw. I sometimes wonder what Cain did in a prior life to deserve all this.
I’m not interested in telling you to STFU. I just don’t believe that you can take anything meaningful from artificial splits, especially when they’re small.
For the record, here’s what I’m saying about “ownage”.
Does it exist? Sure.
Do 20 at bats demonstrate it? No.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
splits will alawys be small
on individual matchups. The team stuff is often more intruging. Remember Mark Portugal???
But it is uncanny how often it holds true to form.
I’d really like to see that substantiated.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You see it all the flipping time
I mean cmon. How many times have you seen that so and so has great numbers against some pitcher? Not really explainable. It carries over to teams as well.
Hanley Ramirez was something like 1-16 going into last nights game versus Zito. What is the explanation for that. Ramirez is a flat out stud. And he looked BAD against Zito last nite.
Krukow talks about this all the time. He played the game a bit. Players know what they do againjst pitchers/hitters/ teams etc. And at this level, a little edge can make a big difference.
16 at bats is less than four games. Weird things happen when you take three and a half completely random games and crunch the numbers.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He's now 1-20
And Zito didn’t have shit last nite. I sat right behind the plate. The Fish hit a bunch of rockets. Meanwhile Ramirez looked awful. Zito toyed with him. These guys aren’t baseball cards. There is legitimacy to the whole ownage stuff. I wouldn’t use it to make out my lineup card. But it happens way too much to just be an old wives tale.
OT: Mike Stanton looks like an outside linebacker. Man does he have an impressive upside.
I WILL NEVER BASE ANYTHING ON A VIRTUALLY ENTIRELY RANDOM SAMPLING OF FOUR GAMES.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Screaming doesnt help
Bottom line – you may not. But baseball managers do. All of them.
FOUR GAMES!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, and your point is . . . ?
Consider that major-league baseball is a very, very large dataset. You more or less expect that various odd stat lines will turn up here and there: you’d be amazed if they didn’t. That does not correlate to cause and effect.
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And for what it’s worth, saying “it happens all the time” is not substantiation. At best, it illustrates a confirmation bias.
I certainly believe that a player can believe he is owned and that can be a problem, but trying to weed out which four game sample indicates a guy who loses his shit over four games and which four game sample indicates a guy getting randomly fluctuated seems to be a pointless game.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Youve watched enough baseball
to see the substantiation. We will agree to disagree on this one.
nope
We’ll just agree that you’re wrong. If you won’t agree with that, that’s your problem. But thinking you can learn anything in 20 fucking ABs spread over a number of years is, and I don’t mean offense, fucking retarded. As are most baseball managers.
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Thanks to roger
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If you really don't mean offense
you could try using the phrase “fucking retarded” less often.
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
No offense taken
I never mind being called fucking retarded. Great argument by the way. How old are you 12?
Good to know you are a better baseball man than most managers. When will we be seeing you run a team?
I knew you'd take it that way
even though I didn’t, you know, actually call YOU that, so much as what you are SAYING. I don’t actually know you and so won’t presume that you are or aren’t. But presuming that you can deduce something from 20 scattered at bats is ridiculous. That’s my argument. I’m sorry you missed it the first time. It’s right up there for reference ^
Good to know you are a better baseball man than most managers. When will we be seeing you run a team?
OH WHAT A SICK BURN!!!! OHH!! OHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! So dusty baker is a great baseball mind? Bruce Bochy? Charlie Manuel? Half (or more) of the other managers in baseball? Give me a break.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Although I agree with you on the substance of the argument, saying ‘I said you’re thinking is retarded, not YOU’ is a meaningless distinction. Effectively, you called him a name as a retort, which is weak.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
no it's absolutely not
smart people do stupid things every day. Saying someone said/did something stupid is a far cry from saying that person is stupid, and this is a distinction that not nearly enough people grasp
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That is totally retarded.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 28, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I won’t even start with that first sentence. I’m happy to agree with the second and leave it at that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
renteria was 4-for-8 against Nunez until last night
And his swings looked like he was batting underwater…
If I’m not mistaken, it’s not even the first time Rent has performed a reverse-own this year.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff was 1-for-13 against Edwin Jackson until a few days ago
And he hit two homers.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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HE WAS DUE
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Fannie Flagg?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad . . .
. . . it’s not “The Fish” on the mound today.
Stats like that are truly septic.
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Jose Bautista with ANOTHER homerun
3 run jack
Those prospects haven’t exactly prospered this year. Gorkys is looking like a 4th OF at best right now.
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Jeff Locke looks pretty good
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
they got a dude named Gorkys
what more do you want?
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It looks really weird to see "Pirates" and "good deal" in the same paragraph.
Random observation from McLouth’s B-R page:
Similar Batters through 27:
…
5. Corey Hart (952)
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
And Jordan Schafer, one of their hot prospects who was supposed to replace McClouth soon, got demoted to AA.
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he’s had a rouhgh time hitting quality pitching
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I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 27, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He was good until he got suspended for HGH
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Not really.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 27, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: The National
At Starbucks they have those cards where you can get a free ITunes song-and this week one of those songs is Bloodbuzz Ohio
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
great song
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Scouting report on Jose Guillen:
“He’s still Jose Guillen.”
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
Mike Rizzo
“He has never had this kind of workload before”
by HoosierGiant on Jul 27, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo said that he made the decision to scratch Stephen Strasburg after he was having trouble getting loose in the bullpen.
It’s being called precautionary, but Strasburg will undergo an MRI and an X-ray, just to make sure. Cross those fingers, Nats fans.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions
Bowker doesnt exit
So I don’t consider him an option. WE can scream all we want. But the Giants have made their decision on Bowker. I hope for his sake he gets traded. It will be interesting to see if he can hit at this level.
Damn you and your cold, hard truth.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
I meant to say Bowker doesnt EXIST
Have no clue how to edit on this site. Sorry.
GRANT POWERTRIP
He won’t let you
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
he's a man. he won't exit.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
rx'd
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I’d only want the Giants to trade for a corner OF/1B if I felt fairly certain that they would do a better job of it than Bowker. So, yeah Dunn is the only guy I have much excitement about.
Just like KFran is having about the same season as Freddie (advantage KFran on bat, Freddie on glove), I imagine that Bowker could do about the same as a lot of the names I’m hearing mentioned as the Giants’ “scouting”.
Yeah Tim Alderson has sucked this year. But we might not be so lucky with whatever combination of Belt, Baumgarner, Guzman, Crawford, Neal, Wheeler, Runzler, Downs, whoever it will/would takes to get a bat.
By calculations, Bokwer’s last four years combined (age 22-26) – three years of MLB stats, plus MLE for three years at Fresno + MLE for 2007 Norwitch works out to
1825 PA of .255 / .356 / .485 of MLE
So – I am trusting that, if the guy is given a chance to settle in and relax, then he’d eventually demonstrate that, his current established level of talent, on the big league level.
(and please no one mention Todd Linden in replies. I also thought that he would have done fine had the Giants, or anyone, just started the 2006 season and said – “the job is yours. We trust you. You have until the all-star break to start regularly w/o being fucked with.”)
¡Viva los Gigantes!
keithlaw
In other #Nats news, Tyler Clippard sneezed in the pen and the team had him cryogenically frozen until a cure for sniffles is discovered.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You know what I really hate about this blog?
All those people who stay on topic…have to keeping hitting Z past all those posts with UZRs or WARs or BABIPs…lame
Hey, I TRIED to start a Scott Pilgrim 6 subthread and it died.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey guys, I just stumbled into this thread. Are we still talking about Jose Guillen?
Ask me about my blog.
Still? Nothing but Guillen talk here...
We are rehashing his career and have gotten up to the A’s years
LOL COMPUTER!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There’s a long and detailed discussion about soda occurring right now, if you’re interested.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
xanthan would have the correct answer. Cheerwine trumps all.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
How does a computer stumble?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 27, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
off to the game!
hope Cain doesn’t get Cained!
LOL Giants!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
BELTED!!!!!
gosquirrels
Two-run RBI Triple from Brandon Belt. Squirrels up 2-0 in the bottom of the first!
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READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 27, 2010 4:59 PM PDT reply actions
he had an RBI triple last night also
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READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 27, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Call him up yesterday!
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
the dude has one of those goofy Dimaggio-type smiles
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 27, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So who do we root for tonight in the LAD/SD game? The team that we’re chasing or the team right behind us?
I think I’ll hope for a 2-1 series in favor of the Dodgers.
Jeaaaggaahh
Game is not on Extra Innings
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter
Win and you get help. Lose you get hurt. I know I should root for the Dodgers. But that sticks in my craw.
SD
Because fuck the Dodgers.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 27, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
a meteor
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I’m rooting for a meteor or extra inning games for the entire series.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Earthquake.
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
The Dodgers
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 27, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I love the Giants far more than I hate the Dodgers. The Dodgers winning will help the Giants. Anyone who wants the Padres to win just for the sake of the Dodgers losing, even though it hurts the Giants, is…. Well, I think thats just stupid, to be honest.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 27, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually agree. I think it’s retarded when people say they won’t root for the Dodgers if for example, they needed to win in the last game of the season for us to make the playoffs.
by kingofthacove on Jul 27, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know...my love for the Giants is inversely proportion to my hatred of the Dodger
Especially since I live down in OC…it’s like my hatred for Laker fans has increased 1000X since I lived here.
My argument to root against the Dodgers is that if they fall any further out…they would likely be out of the playoffs. Then it will just be the Giants and SD…Also it would knock another team out of contention for the WC…I don’t really care how we get into the playoffs…just that we are in.
Meanwhile, Miguel Batista is shutting out the Braves
wat
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
Mets killing the Cards
LOL COMEDY CENTRAL
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
HEY!
my computer’s trackpad now has inertial scrolling. ITS LIKE AN IPHONE
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
ITS LIKE AN IPHONE
You’re holding it wrong?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL NO OTHER PHONE HAS EVER HAD THAT PROBLEM
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
In all of the other instances
Was that also the prescribed solution?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
this is seriously nothing new. It’s just apple so now suddenly everyone cares.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Really?
I don’t think I’ve ever been told to hold my phone a certain way to improve reception. Especially not by a company whose reception display algorithm was later shown to be wrong.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I had an old smartphone
that had a sticker ON THE FUCKING PHONE telling me if I held it a certain way it would cover the antenna and lose reception. Most smartphones are like that. And most people working at cellphone stores are retards and wouldn’t know to tell you that.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I had a similar iPhone problem with my penis. The solution was also that I was holding it wrong.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
What's wrong with children these days
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
wrong question
what’s wrong with parents and school. Not the kids fault that the adults in their lives are total fuckups.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
This reminds me of last week’s episode of Louis. All the parents are trying to make school more “fun!”, but Louis correctly points out that school sucks. It’s for learning. Grammar is important. So is math. They’re not fun for most people. Get over it.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
yes
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
What’s with repeating letters at the end of words? I’ve never understood that.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
You wouldn’t ,,,
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
D:
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, my cousin is from around the Fullerton area and she does the same thing.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
At least half my friends on Facebook (the half that use Facebook a ton, it seems) do that. It’s an accurate representation of how they talk, but it’s still annoying.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
ThAt OnE i$ tH3 WoR$T, I cAn’T bElIeVe PeOpLe WaSTe Th3iR tImE dOiNg ThIs
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 27, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
especially on their XBL gamertag
they must have spent an entire night writing some of those
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I hate my generation.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not too thrilled with them myself. I’m hoping it’s just the small subset of kids that are in this class I’m taking and not everyone in “your generation.” There are days I come home depressed and afraid for the future of our society. From thinking you can walk 45 miles in the desert in 108º heat, with no water, not knowing that you can’t breathe the air on the moon, not understanding simple economic principles to not knowing the difference between science and theology…
It’s been an illuminating 4 weeks. I’ll be moving to cave in the mountains somewhere soon.
Old folks dun never tot us nutin!
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 27, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean at least some of you younger kids here show a little imagination, creativity, use of a brain every once in awhile. [It’s a “group discussion” class with a lot of “presentations” ] and any time I suggest we do a presentation in a unique or creative way you can see them start to hyperventilate. “but it’s not specifically what the directions say!!!!”
I don’t know why this is, I suspect rote memorization and teaching to the test where there is ONLY one right answer, but that’s just a guess. Maybe I can apply for a government research grant to explore the topic further.]
not understanding simple economic principles to not knowing the difference between science and theology…
These are also problems with adults.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
/tea partied
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
not knowing that you can’t breathe the air on the moon
What air? lol
Besides, they don’t even think we’ve been there. It has been so long ago, it is like it never happened. That part is not their fault. People in general and our government in particular lost focus and never regained it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Every generation complains that the new one is stupid and ignorant. And yet people are only getting more and more knowledgeable.
I kind of doubt that, say, 100 years ago, the average kid knew anything about what could or couldn’t be done on the moon. And back then it’d be pretty hard to find an adult who knew what’s the difference science and theology.
I was promised lasagna.
I wish I could agree.
Most theories of history (for example, Toynbee’s) hold that civilizations rise and fall on an arc. If we assume that the arc is roughly symmetrical, then those who say that things are worse today than they were X while ago have, by pure math, a 50% chance of being correct. If their views were derived from intelligent examination of meaningful data, the odds are a lot better than 50%.
Also notable is that, at least in Toynbee’s view, civilizations often are at the acme of their technological progress and knowledge at the time that their collapse is taking place—the Romans were building ever bigger and better roads and aqueducts even as the barbarians were at the gates. (And the advance of the barbarians was not some historical inevitability: it was a consequence of the decay of many aspects of the Roman civilization.)
In addition to the grand arc of a given civilization’s rise and fall, there will also no doubt be local zigs and zags superimposed on the larger arc. My own feeling is that a local peak in Western civilization was passed somewhere around 1960, give or take only a little. Why that should be, I have no idea, but in a wide and diverse variety of ways, things do seem worse since that time. (I gather, as a tiny specimen example, that Engliah grammar is no longer taught at all in schools at any level save perhaps as an elective in college.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
More than half of all Americans . . .
. . . (literally, and from respected polling organizations) believe that the Earth was created less than ten thousand years ago.
After that, what else is left to say?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Read as I love your boobs
BIG 3: SF GIANTS, NY JETS, MIAMI HEAT
HATED 3: LA Dodgers, NE Patriots, MIAMI DOLPHINS
BIG 3 Players: Dwyane Wade, Brian Wilson, and Shaun Ellis
by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Jul 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This was also my first impression.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Me, too, and I thought that was “what’s wrong with kids today” or whatever.
GET OFF MY LAWN.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
Fact: in the last year, I’ve told at least four people to get off my lawn. This can’t be right.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m 18. I shouldn’t be telling teenagers to get off my lawn.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha, my neighbors would look at me as if I were crazy. On the other hand, I’m already crazy.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
At least I’m not alone. ;)
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m so joining, haha.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but “get off my lawn” means something completely different for an 18-year-old.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If kids today think boobs are awesome, kids today are doing something right.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
They are pretty awesome.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Man Guillen is terrible on defense he drops more balls than a prostitute with arthritis
BIG 3: SF GIANTS, NY JETS, MIAMI HEAT
HATED 3: LA Dodgers, NE Patriots, MIAMI DOLPHINS
BIG 3 Players: Dwyane Wade, Brian Wilson, and Shaun Ellis
by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Jul 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
You can’t really drop a testicle, though. I mean, not unless it’s undescended. Or unattached….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
His new nickname should be "the pen"
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
His route to balls is so circuitous he might as well be a nun!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This one made me lol out loud
haha good one
BIG 3: SF GIANTS, NY JETS, MIAMI HEAT
HATED 3: LA Dodgers, NE Patriots, MIAMI DOLPHINS
BIG 3 Players: Dwyane Wade, Brian Wilson, and Shaun Ellis
by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Jul 27, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
“Hamlet? No thanks, I already did Babe, the Musical and that was humiliating enough.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
What do we have that the Phitin’s would take for Werth?
That’d be sweet.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
Oh Fuck
JeffFletcherAOL
Source confirms #sfgiants in on podsednik. They reportedly already had agreed on prospects for DeJesus, so pieces of deal there. #royals
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/sigh
Inevitable but still disappointing.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
ROWNADS FOR BOWKER
BIG 3: SF GIANTS, NY JETS, MIAMI HEAT
HATED 3: LA Dodgers, NE Patriots, MIAMI DOLPHINS
BIG 3 Players: Dwyane Wade, Brian Wilson, and Shaun Ellis
by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Jul 27, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The ribeyes and vroom crowd will flood their simulated wood panel station wagons with splooge.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Wagoneers FTW!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
my first car was a station wagon—1968 Caprice Classic with realfake wood panelling
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 27, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew this day would come. PODS will be here soon.
Fuck this sucks.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Somehow, I see this taking playing time from Torres. Which would be possibly even more retarded than Bengie over Posey.
That’s what I was thinking. We already have a better speedy OF’r. WTF
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
hide Wheeler, Belt, and Neal now!!!
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 27, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Now I wish DDJ was healthy
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 27, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez+Rowand for Podsednik
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 27, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, b/c DDJ and Pods demand the same trade value.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 27, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Scott Podsednik:
Fred Lewis five years from now. In fact, probably not even that good.
But he’s old! It’s The Giants Way®.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Blog on Buster Posey
On ESPN. Can’t read it, have to be a member of insider to read it. Anyone copy and pasted?
OMG
POZEY RULZ NOW ESPN SAYZ SO
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Usual puff piece
They compared his hitting style to Edgar Martinez.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I can haz?
Kelly Johnson is drawing more interest than other available D’Backs, according to Jack Magruder of FOX Sports Arizona
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 27, 2010 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
I can’t look up his numbers at Mays Field but his overall home/away splits this year are pretty striking:
Batting Avg: .316 home, .238 road.
Onbase Pct: .411 home, .317 road.
Slugging Pct: .670 home, .375 road.
Homers: 11 home, 5 road.
They could be Giants...but not really.
He’s a career .281/.311/.368 hitter at AT&T.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
better than Freddy
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 27, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually he’s not bad.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
What does he do instead?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 27, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Better Know a Giant
Scott Podsdnik was born in West, Texas, but not in West Texas.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
It’s fun to type.
Podsednik.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jul 27, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Podsednik Podsednik Podsednik
Hey, you’re right!
Also, it ought to read, “throwing complete game shutouts since ’06.” since the part being abbreviated is before 06.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
To be fair
He might have meant that Cain has been throwing CGSOs since he was 6 feet tall.
They could be Giants...but not really.
If you hear loud noises coming from our direction, it’s just Mr. Merope throwing things, or possibly blowing things up…. the Bengals just signed TO.
That’s an incredible amount of ego out of 2 recievers on the same team. If deion sanders and michael irvin came out of retirement and joined that team the state of Cincinnati would explode from all the smugness.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I really can’t see how it ends well, except maybe the money we might save from not ordering Sunday Ticket this season…
I really can’t see how it ends well
Carson Palmer gets the boot and is traded to SF b/c he isn’t a leader anymore.
Also, does TO still have talent?
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 27, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, he does. His numbers were depressed last season because he had some dude named iwouldn’tbethebackupatfresno throwing to him. But if you look at them carefully, they were actually still pretty awesome.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
could you tell him I said LOL @ Bengals please?
by Into the Void on Jul 27, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
/drops pass over the middle
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 27, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
It could be very, very good for a year. T.O. still has it, and he seems to play nice for at least one year per stop.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Why do the banner ads keep asking if I want to win Angel & Dodger tickets?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
IT'S A TRAP!
"I don’t think I’ve ever heard a louder chorus of boos than when the Dodgers made the third out of the ninth. It was awesome.." - Aubrey Huff
A's Rangers game ...
Crisp on 1st and running on the pitch. Bengie throws an absolute strike to second. Unfortunately, both IF’s held their ground and throw goes into CF.
Crisp to 3rd scoring on single – Bengie charged w/ error (pending the scorer finding out who was supposed to cover). Also an ER charged to Cliff Lee (can’t assume the CS).
Life’s not fair.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
/now saying it’s an unearned run
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Did Bengie keep the error?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
For now, yes
announcers said the scorer should find out who was supposed to cover (after the game) and change the error.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Buccos over the Vapors 2-1 in the 5th.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 6:53 PM PDT reply actions
Back to back dingers tie the game 2-2.
LOL HUMIDOR
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 27, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
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