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minor lines, 7/22/10

Thursday highlights from the Giants' farm: Francisco Peguero homered and tripled among his three hits, both John Bowker and Ryan Rohlinger homered and singled, and Clayton Tanner allowed just 1 ER in 7.0 IP.

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AAA: Fresno lost to Salt Lake 11-3
(after trailing 4-0 through six innings)

Fresno: LF John Bowker: 2 for 4, HR
Fresno: DH Jesus Guzman: 3 for 4, 2B
Fresno: SS Ryan Rohlinger: 2 for 3, HR, BB

Fresno: SP Daryl Maday: 4.1 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 0 K--2 HR
Fresno: RP Osiris Matos: 1.2 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 1 K

Late in the game in mop-up time, Bowker had his 12th HR, and Rohlinger his 5th HR.  Guzman's three hits, including just his 10th double, raised his AVG to .308.

Maday continues to scuffle since his promotion to the PCL.  This was his shortest start but also the fewest runs he has allowed.  He has also given up at least two big flies in each start.  Matos's ERA has gotten a little higher each month, with his season ERA now nearly 5.00.

AA: Richmond defeated Bowie 3-2

Richmond: LF Thomas Neal: 1 for 3, 2B, BB
Richmond: RF Clay Timpner: 2 for 4, 2B

Richmond: SP Clayton Tanner: 7.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 WP
Richmond: RP Mitch Lively: 1.0 IP, 1 K

Both Neal and Timpner each had an XBH while reaching base twice.

Tanner pitched at least seven innings for the fourth time in his last six starts.  His ERA is approximately 2.75 in ten starts since Memorial Day.  Lively pitched a perfect 9th inning for his 2nd save.

A+: San Jose lost to Stockton 6-2

San Jose: RF Francisco Peguero: 3 for 5, HR, 2B, SO
San Jose: 1B Michael Sandoval: 3 for 4
San Jose: 3B Drew Biery: 1 for 4, HR
Stockton: SS Grant Green: 3 for 4, 2B, SH, SB

San Jose: SP Kyle Nicholson: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 5 K--2 HR, 1 HB
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K

Peguero remains the Giants' hottest hitter, this time with his 6th HR, 13th triple and a single.  Since the Cal League's all-star break, his OPS is over 1.000 with a .384/.431/.571 line in 112 AB.  Biery added his 12th HR, and Sandoval also had three hits.  Green, the Athletics' first rounder a year ago, raised his AVG to .332 with three more hits, including his 27th double (which I think is more doubles than any Giants' farmhand has this year).

Nicholson had his fifth straight start with 4+ ER.  Stoffel retired just two of his six batters.  With nearly twice as many hits as strikeouts (122 H vs 65 K in 98.2 IP, .303 BAA), would he still make a Giants top forty prospects list?

A-: Augusta lost to Greensboro 8-1

Augusta: CF Evan Crawford: 1 for 3, 3B

Augusta: SP Jeremy Toole: 5.0+ IP, 7 H, 6 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
Augusta: RP Chris Gloor: 2.2 IP, 1 H, 2 K

Crawford had his 12th triple as the GreenJackets' offense was limited to four hits (but three XBH) and one walk.

Toole allowed two runs through five innings but then did not retire any of his four batters in the 6th inning.  Gloor allowed just one hit.  He has been consistenly good throughout the season with a 2.68 ERA, and his peripheral stats are now 38 H, 22 BB, 2 HR, and 55 K in 47.0 IP.

ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Everett 5-4 (14 innings)

Salem-Keizer: 2B Julio Izturis: 3 for 6, SH, SO
Salem-Keizer: LF Ryan Scoma: 2 for 7, HR, SO

Salem-Keizer: SP Shane Kaufman: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K--1 WP
Salem-Keizer: RP David Newton: 2.0 IP, 2 K

Scoma had his 2nd HR.  Izturis's three singles raised his AVG above .300.

Kaufman's fifth pro start was his longest yet, making it his first quality start with just two runs allowed.  Newton pitched a perfect 8th and 9th innings.

R: Giants at Padres postponed by rain

DSL: Giants at Yankees1 postponed by rain

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ouch, Matos!

yay, Peguero! I am on the verge of officially becoming a believer.

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by delorean on Jul 23, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I really liked him when I saw him in San Jose awhile back, but the McCoven all thought I was crazy. My comment was kind of stupid, in that, I was just going off what I saw in one game. But, I’m glad to see what he’s been doingl ately.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, me too, but opposite.

saw him in the season opener ‘gainst the Nuts and he looked pretty lousy. No power, didn’t like his build, lackluster in the field.

I STRAWHATT’D MYSELF!

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by delorean on Jul 23, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! When I saw him he had a few hits, and looked good at the plate. I liked his hustle, too, which is something I love to see in a player (e.g., Juggernate), but which isn’t that useful a lot of the time.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seth Rosin

I noticed he hasn’t pitched in nearly a month. was he injured? any word?

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2010 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

let me google that for myself
In other Volcanoes news, right-hander Seth Rosin (1-0, 2.57 earned run average) is expected to pitch in a simulated game Friday. He has missed the past month with an elbow injury.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, obligatory why is Velez up and not Rohlinger?

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Rohlinger is the young, cost controlled Juan Uribe of 2011.

My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.

by GiantPain on Jul 23, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Rain in AZ in July?

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by capn on Jul 23, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Just looked at Bowker’s current line: .317/.399/.622/1.021

I still think they need additional depth at SS, and RyRohl is my guy, but wow. That’s pretty.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

seems like he’d be a good platoon-mate for Burrell in LF.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 23, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and Sabean wants a left handed hitter with some power, so it makes sense. To us, I mean.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

/Sabean stares intently at trade market

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jul 23, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Guillen!

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I realiz that you're joking, but

Did you see what Guillen did last night? He was on 2nd base with 2 outs. HIs teammate hits a shot towards the gap in left-center. Guillen jogs toward home, and doesn’t cross the plate before his guy gets thrown out at 2B trying to stretch his single into a double. So, no run scored thanks to Guillen’s laziness.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jul 23, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, that kind of stuff fills me with rage!

Also, I was totally joking. Guillen’s not even a left handed hitter, for goodness sakes. I don’t know what the hell they’re doing, but I don’t want Sabean to make a trade just for the sake of saying he did something at the deadline.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not joking...

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/7/22/1583674/post-game-thread-cain-dominates#42736190

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jul 23, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That link isn’t working for me for some reason, but I assume you’re refrencing the comment about the Giants scouting Guillen. I had seen that, and that’s why I made the comment.

The “joke” part of it was me acting as if I was excited about the idea.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

I did not read it as excitement. More like resigned giving up.

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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by scout6 on Jul 23, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t think even Sabean is that stupid. But, it’s possible.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

you think wrongly
Green, the Athletics’ first rounder a year ago, raised his AVG to .332 with three more hits, including his 27th double (which I think is more doubles than any Giants’ farmhand has this year).

Brandon Belt and Juan Perez have each hit 28 for San Jose.

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on Jul 23, 2010 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Right

Belt hit 28 (in 112 fewer ABs than Green has now) before he left the Cal League, and has hit 3 in the EL, so he has 31 total now.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jul 23, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10

by kennv on Jul 23, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for looking this up. Belt should have been pretty obvious.

by steve S on Jul 24, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gloor

He’s intriguing, but he need to get control of his BBs. I would really love to see him get some starts before the season’s over. I don’t see him as a starter in the majors, but do think that stretching his innings out would have a positive long-term effect on his development. And, after all, do we really need to see Reichard get any more regular starts this year?

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jul 23, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Mayday has not looked good in AAA at all.

Good to see Jesus, Bowker and Rohlinger continue to do well. Makes you further think was Bowker and Rohlinger could be doing for this team.

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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by scout6 on Jul 23, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Well, they wouldn’t be vroom-y, that’s for sure.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

So far Velez has been Vrooming on the bench.

I have no problem with him being there, but it’s a waste of a spot.

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by scout6 on Jul 23, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

ITA. My speculation is that they brought him up because of his SB total, because Rohlinger and Bowker are more valuable than he is in every other way. If that’s why they did it, they’re idiotic. I guess Bochy mentioned they wanted a left handed bat, which Bowker is.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

All in all it’s pretty frustrating.

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by scout6 on Jul 23, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have an irrational attachment to RyRohl, so I have been trying to be objective. But, just looking at the numbers, both defensively and offensively, he looks so much better.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Objectively speaking

Everyone is better than Vroooom! and Bork is an idiot, objectively speaking of course.

Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand

by Giant Torture on Jul 23, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Devin Harris promoted to S-K

The Giants have promoted RF/LF to S-K to take the place of RafRod. RafRod is supposedly ony down in Scottsdale for a rehab assignment, but I’m betting he’ll remain there the rest of this season. S-K basly needed a 4th OF, but Harris was an uninspred choice. I was hoping for Chuckie Jones or Sundrendy Windster, who are both having better seasons than Harris. I guess the Giants didn’t want Chuckie to have to share time in CF with Lofton, but that doesn’t hold true for Windster. He’s not getting regular starts in the OF for Scottsdale (about half of his starts have been at 1B), and he’s repeating the AZL this year, so he would have been the logical choice to get the promotion.

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by Fla-Giant on Jul 23, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow Bowker hit another homerun

Maybe the Giants can trade him for a young left handed bat with power.

Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand

by Giant Torture on Jul 23, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Bowker needs to be in the major leagues

If the Giants aren’t going to bring him up and play him, I wish they’d just DFA him so he can go to a team that’s out of contention and who will give him consistent ABs down the stretch. The way the Giants are handling him is killing his career.

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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jul 23, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

This
The way the Giants are handling him is killing his career

And killing their chances of winning, he’s a better player than Velez, better than Rownads too, and at this point I would also say that overall better than Schierholz as well.

Giants best trade option: Bowker for Rowand

by Giant Torture on Jul 23, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this crazy?

I feel like bringing up Bowker and platooning him with Burrell would improve the lineup.

Against RHP:
CF Torres
LF Bowker
C Posey
RF/1B Huff
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
1B/RF Ishikawa/Schierholtz
2B Sanchez

Against LHP:
RF Torres
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
C Posey
LF Burrell
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
CF Rowand

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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jul 23, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it’s not crazy at all. It’s exactly what needs to be done.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 23, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rather better . . .

. . . would be using him in RF. Burrell doesn’t need platooning so much as the team needs a major bat in RF. I still don’t know that Bowker is not AAAA, but he deserves one last try.

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by owlcroft on Jul 23, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you call up Bowker and don’t platoon Burrell, then you have Torres, Bowker, Schierholtz, Rowand, and sometimes Huff for two OF spots. There is no way that Bowker would get consistent ABs in this scenario.

Plus, Burrell has a career 94 OPS+ vs. righties, while Bowker’s is 114 with better defense.

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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jul 23, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

Burrell, Torres, Bowker, and Schierholtz rotate through. In a simplifed way of putting it, each plays 3/4 time. A more sophisticated rotation gives Burrell and Torres 5/6 time and Bowker and Schierholtz 2/3 time, unless Bowker grabs it with both hands and runs, in which case he can be upped slightly at Schierholtz’s expense. Huff stays where he best belongs, at 1B.

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by owlcroft on Jul 23, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot to add:

Rowand is glued to the bench as an emregancy backup in case Torres and Schierholtz each break a leg in the same game.

That’s not how Bochy would play it? True. But the minute you admit “how Bochy would use X, Y, Z” to ny discussion, that discussion necessarily grinds to a halt.

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by owlcroft on Jul 23, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it. A lot.

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by kdl on Jul 23, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is way too complicated for Bochy. His idea of platooning is to keep the hitters in the exact same spot regardless of the fact that the platoon partners may be completely different types of players.

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