Baggs: Giants considering playing 2011 season opener in Taiwan
by gianator on Jul 22, 2010 9:55 AM PDT
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LOS ANGELES — The Giants would open the 2011 season with a two-game series in Taiwan against the Arizona Diamondbacks if players from both teams approve a proposal from Major League Baseball, sources told the Mercury News on Wednesday.
Players union executive Gene Orza met with the Giants almost two weeks ago in Washington to outline the travel schedule, which would include two exhibitions against the Chinese Taipei national team before taking on the Diamondbacks in late March.
The Giants would return to Scottsdale, Ariz., for an additional week of spring training before resuming the regular season.
Players would receive additional compensation for competing overseas, because of the travel inconvenience and the earlier spring training reporting time. They are expected to vote on the proposal next month.
If approved, it would be the Giants' first regular-season game outside of the United States, its territories or Canada. They played a series with the Montreal Expos in San Juan, Puerto Rico, in 2004.
Taiwan would be a new venue for Major League Baseball, which has staged three season-opening series in Tokyo and one in Monterrey, Mexico. The A's opened the 2008 season in Japan against the Boston Red Sox.
Taiwanese major leaguers include Los Angeles Dodgers left-hander Hong-Chih Kuo and Washington Nationals right-hander Chien-Ming Wang.
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I’m all for MLB playing a series in Taiwan, but I would rather have somebody else do it. I think this kind of travel always hurts a team.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 22, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions
/buys plane tickets to Taiwan for April 2011
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions
this
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I'll show EVERYBODY around!
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by SoFa King Mike on Jul 22, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a Fan...
Nothing messes up a team more than playing meaningful games and then going back for a week of games that don’t count. If they end up losing both games, that’s already an 0-2 hole before opening day to a division opponent.
Not to mention it would screw me out of at least 1of the 9 games I get a year out here in Phoenix, since they are playing… the DBacks?
Question
The Red Sox got to the ALCS in 08 losing a close 7 game series to Tampa Bay and NY got to the ALCS in 04 losing a close 7 game series to Boston. Both of those teams opened in Japan.
There are clearly examples of teams that have not fared well after opening overseas but does it really have any impact on how teams perform during the season?
I do not like this.
Play a game that means something then go back to Spring Training?
Don’t they usually shy away from having divisional opponents play these kinds of games?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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The conflict within me
I like the idea of MLB going to Japan and Taiwan, but I don’t like that the games actually count and teams lose home games (even though it would be the D-backs who would lose them in this case.)
by Murray, Present on Jul 22, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
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AZNS!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
This has been a dream of mine for the last 15 years
I have always told friends and family back home how awesome it is to watch Barry Bonds every day. To watch Tim Lincecum every day. Because of Chien Ming Wang and Hong Chih Kuo, most ppl in Taiwan are Yankees and Dodgers fans.
This will raise unprecedented awareness for the Giants in Taiwan, and I’d seriously consider a week long vacation to go back just to wear my Giants Uniform at the park and bring everybody that I know with me.
Plus you get awesome scenes like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edVe74K7GQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTF4isKVBVw
and of course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGpqcglBfqY
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/books ticket
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by say hey nation on Jul 22, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Psst
I’m pretty sure Barry Bonds won’t be playing in that game. Your friends and family back home are going to hate you.
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not retired!!!
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by jctGamer on Jul 22, 2010 1:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
hell no
bad idea. bad travel. bad schedule. bad timing. Giants fans lose a home game. the Giants should tell that pimp Selig to go fuck himself.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 22, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
I’m against the idea of playing meaningful games half a world away, flying back to play meaningless ones for a week, then resuming with your regularly scheduled programming. Sounds like a recipe to throw players off for the first month of the season.
I don’t know what the solution is for building awareness of the game internationally but I really don’t think playing regular season games is the right way to go.
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I think it’s a cool idea but maybe exhibition games would be better. Would it make a big difference in Taiwan if the games were exhibitions?
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/7/21/1581701/post-game-thread-giants-drop#42669306
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I would be behind the exhibition game idea. Perhaps choose a handful of teams to go play a week’s worth of spring training games in late March then they play their last week back in the states to get back on track and start the season as normal.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
It's a mute point anyway
The mainlanders will be invading Taiwan before next Spring.
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no, it's "moo"
like a cow’s opinion
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One must admit
Importing a panda to China is a novel idea
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Sure. If the players are down with it, i’m in.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 22, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
meh
Still in despair.
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Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
Nooooooo
Send the Padres Rockies and Dodgers to play all over Asia…a few times during the year.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 22, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
It's now on Taiwan News Outlets
http://www.nownews.com/2010/07/22/341-2628602.htm
The players mentioned for the Dbacks : Webb (he’s gotta be gone by then right?), Haren, Drew, Upton.
For the Giants? Lincecum. Zito. Sandoval. and?…………………………….. drum rolls please……………………………………
石川隆, also known as Travis Ishikawa.
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Also this is interesting:
Ishikawa met his wife, Rochelle, a dental assistant when he was hit by a pitch in the face in his first game with the San Jose Giants.
o it da so hurt
Still in despair.
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Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Jul 22, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm also reading an interview with the promotion agency in Taiwan
1. The Dodgers were paid 2.5 Million dollars for their appearance in Taiwan. They expect to pay at least twice as much for this go around (because there are 2 teams). Plus other traveling expenses.
2. Their first choice was the Nationals (and Chien-Ming Wang), while MLB replied with “National League West” as their priorities. The Giants was their next choice.
3. The Giants and the Dbacks would both get one exhibition game.
4. They are 80% certain this is going to happen.
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/100723/78/29r4r.html
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Their first choice was the Nationals (and Chien-Ming Wang), while MLB replied with "National League West" as their priorities. The Giants was their next choice.
Now THAT is interesting. Two of the four current Taiwanese players in the bigs are on the Dodgers (four of the six all-time Taiwanese players have played for LA).
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by BruteSentiment on Jul 22, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm in the "Hell, NO!" camp
It might help MLB in some sort of long range marketing plan, but it will not help the Giants, and may just hurt them. So… Hell, NO!
I'm with jctGamer
I want to go to there.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
by oldjacket on Jul 22, 2010 5:07 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If you’re with him at the time of the games, you will in fact be there.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a tangible on the field positive in this.
Since the team could easily reset the rotation in the sandwiched week of Spring training, Lincecum and Cain would be able to start the first four games of the season.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
There’s also the issue that, assuming the Giants start playing the regular season at the same time as the rest of the league, the Giants will receive two extra days off during the season.
That’s not a bad thing.
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by BruteSentiment on Jul 22, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
both of these sound pretty sweet to me. i’m in.
FREE BUSTER
by TimLincecumIsGod on Jul 23, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree...hadn't thought of either of these.
I wonder if a team based on pitching like the Ginats would also have an advantage because “the pitchers are always ahead of the hitters” during ST.
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I would be down to go to Taiwan for this. My wife’s family is from Taiwan and I have been there twice last year. It is a regular thing to go back. This is a great reason to go along with visiting family!
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This is something worth saving money for.
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