Post-game thread: Giants drop series finale
The Giants got BABIP'd on tonight. There's no moral to the story, no lesson to be learned. This isn't a part of a long-running theme, nor is it something symptomatic or emblematic. It was just one of those nights. Every single they had came without a runner in scoring position; every runner in scoring position was waiting for a single that never came.
It's not as if Chad Billingsley wasn't good -- he got ahead of hitters all night and pitched a fine game -- but the Giants hit him enough to score at least one run, if not two Nope. BABIP'd on. Hard-hit balls became outs, and most of the soft-hit balls did too. There wasn't a broken-bat bloop to be found with a runner at third and two down.
Doesn't mean that it didn't absolutely suck to watch that, of course. It's just a little easier to take when the Giants are winning more than they're losing. Not much. In fact, forget I wrote that. It sucked. Barry Zito deserved better. You deserved better. We all did.
Poop.
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Meh.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
the john sayles film?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
or the video game?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
the john sayles film
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The game. I’m downloading the game.
Metacritic, don’t steer me wrong!
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you play Braid?
I was so disappointed in Braid… I’ve lost faith in indie games
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t get the appeal. The puzzles didn’t seem particularly clever. The style and art design was nice, though
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Braid was one of my favorite games of the past decade.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I was frustrated because I didn’t understand the story.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Grant
his fault, and Walrus
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions
I wish I had a nickel every time someone’s told me that it’s my fault and walrus.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame Jponry and Natto
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
i blame howie
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
he defected to 22gigantes.com
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This would make me very sad.
And then very angry.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
So they're here half the time?
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, no longer above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart!
One of them scores, the other doesn’t
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither of them scores. One is just honest about it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Oh.
Sorta like mastER AND SERVANT
(IT’S A LOT it’s a lot IT’S A LOT it’s a lot…etc)
full circle, baby!
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
In what sense do you mean?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
/pulls up a chair
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Goofus, he’s my friend…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
conveniently
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I maintain
That despite getting BABIP’d in five or six big situations, the Giants had some UGLY hacking going on tonight, particularly from the 5-7 spots.
But yeah – Billingsley doesn’t tip Franchez’s liner up the middle, Kemp doesn’t make either of those 8th inning catches, or Jazzy gets that grounder up the line, and it’s a whole different game. A much better one.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 21, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions
The hacking from 5-7 was ridiculous
It was as if aaron rowand took 3 forms.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
“If you bench me, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
-Aaron Rowand
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jul 21, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, they're not.
I thought that vision enhancing ‘roids didn’t exist but according to the pundit at The Giants Cafe I’m wrong.
HGH has a nick name in MLB. It’s called X-Ray vision. In a recent interview FP Santagelo claimed to reap the benefits of steroids twice in his career. Once when he was injured, and a second time when he was trying to keep his spot in the line up. He claims the roid users use to call the stuff X-Ray because it gave you excellent depth perception and visual acuity. Those were lies perpetrated by Steroid deniars that steroids do not help your “Batting Eye”.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course I JUST noticed his "expert source".
I’m not well versed on F.P. other than he’s got a GREAT eye for the ON light on the camera.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And HIS place in history.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Fertilizer
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
You had this written in the 6th inning didn’t you?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
I hope
The Giants don’t go into one of those slides where they lose 8 out of 10 games. We know how inconsistent this team is and that’s a possibility. I hope it doesn’t happened, but it wouldn’t surprise me with this team.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
I wish there was some in-between team that lived between good Giants and bad Giants.
Nah, I wish there was only good Giants
by craigcommaroger on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
I'm realizing that I forgot to eat dinner
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I had
Beef short ribs in homemade BBQ sauce with spiced lentils and bisects.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicken tikka masala and vegetable korma
it tasted of defeat.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 21, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
what are bisects?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
A failed attempt at spelling biscuit.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
I thought maybe it was some awesome tasty food I didn’t know about.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Bisexual insects.
He’s a syllable saver.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
love beef short ribs
in bbq or teriyaki. very underrated. however hard to find quality short ribs that arent all bone. especially at local chain grocery stores
by projectmayhem713 on Jul 21, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
beef shorties
I’ve got a killing family recipe for something we call 4th of July ribs.
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Jul 22, 2010 9:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Some dim sum, chow mein, and fried shrimp
Got some duck for lunch tomorrow
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
noodles
in a bowl
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to a hole in the wall mexican place. I had a California BUrrito. (steak, cheese salsa and french fries wrapped in a tortilla) mmmmmmmm
best california burrito ever
Santana’s in San Diego has a chicken Calif. Burritos that would change your life
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Jul 22, 2010 9:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't either
Giants cause stomach problems.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
I kinda forgot/wasn't hungry
had an after work function where I had 1 chicken wing and that “martini”.
got home and still wasn’t hungry so I fired up a stogie.
Now, now I’m hungry.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Stogie?
Yeesh. (lawl) Putting the “stank” in “Stankus”?
/ain’t kissin’ it
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It's an Oliva Cain Habano
and it’s delicious
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
With mayonnaise or hollandaise?
The funk of those puppies is definitely an acquired taste.
Whatever pleases.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Well lets pack up and get to AZ.
Maybe they just wanted to get there so they sped this one up for themselves.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not angry they lost...
I’m angry they did that “We’re only down by 1 so stick around and watch the game” shit. AGAIN. Hurry up and lose, so I can move on with my evening.
Meh
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
Billingsley kept the ball down most of the night. Giants topped the low ones, swung under the high ones. Winning 2 out of 3 against an NL West team is preferable to losing 2 out of 3 or getting swept, as has been the course so far this year.
1-0 would’ve looked better, it would’ve been a pitching duel, but 2-0 feels like the offense just crapped out tonight. Nope. Billingsley was dealing. Four games back. Again.
LOL
Watching the White Sox-Mariners game. Hawk Harrelson lived up to his homer status by saying “get up, get out” on a long double that was almost a home run by Gordan Beckham.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
GIT UP THERE BALL GIT UP THERE
/aneurysm
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOARD YESSSSS! HE GONE!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
2.5 hours: wasted.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, no longer above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart!
Yesterday's game was slightly better.
Only slightly.
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
Last night, they stole the excitement from tonight's game.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, no longer above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart!
I'll take the hit.
Billingsley falls toward first.
Keep that in mind for the late inning bunt barrage.
By Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 7:30 PM PDT reply actions
Hopefully he isn’t in in the late innings.
by Azmanz on Jul 21, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions
Boycott us.
Girlcott us as well.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be there in Prescott for my National softball tournament in September
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 21, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Traveling from where?
If you’re unlucky ednough to pass near the heart of Blankland (meaning the metro Phoenix area) let me know and i’ll spot you to a 44 oz Thirstbuster at a Circle K., or somethin’.
Yep, that’s what they’re called.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck blankland. I’m out STUCK HERE DAMN YOU.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 23, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Sigh
A win would have been nice tonight.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
It's my birthday..
Woulda been great to have spent it with a sweep, now I don’t even wanna go out.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
But its your birthday, name another day you can have other people pay so you can drown your sorrows?
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That's true.
But I’m not a very good depressed drunk, I punch things.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
So you’re Lisa Stevens.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jul 21, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He's gonna finally do it!
/cardinals pull a 2008 mets
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This game
Ick. I hope the Giants sweep LA next series at AT&t.
I blame Velez, Wellemeyer, Rowand, Molina, and Rentería.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 9:50 PM PDT reply actions
And medders, howry, benitez, and feliz
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Hermanson, Franklin, Herges, and Walker.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Franks, Dark, Fox, and Alou.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
And DeLucia, Frey, Scarsone and Hook
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 21, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
VanLandingham, Watson, Leiter, and Benjamin
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Benjamin Carreon
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
MARK TIME
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Brewington, Faneyte, Hickerson and Canizaro
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 21, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Rabb, Nicoscia, Summers and O'Malley
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Tyler, Buchanan, Taylor, and Grant
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Pierce, Fillmore, Polk, and Hayes
IF YOU SAY ARTHUR YOU GET CUT
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Chester Arthur was a hack.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing quite as sexy as moderate civil service reforms…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Van Buren, Polk, Madison and Jackson
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
teabag this
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I Blame Grant
and fuck the padres
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jul 21, 2010 9:50 PM PDT reply actions
Let us look at it like this
1. Won a series on the road against a West team
2. Buster keeps his hit streak going.
3. Good pitching by Mad Bum and Zito.
4. Grant doesn’t punch the penguin.
5. We took 2 of 3 from the Doyers.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:51 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And actually slowly gained ground on San Diego the past two weeks.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Was it Huff who said “one game a week for the next seven weeks”?
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 21, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t remember, but that would be logical.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He did. It was something Dusty said also in 2004
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Bashful Burrell
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It's weird how the order of events matter.
When the end result is the same.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
6. Wilson only has to pitch 1 inning in the series
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I would probably have enjoyed the 5 years that inning took off my lifespan.
But oh no, I had to be a Giants fan.
/punches Grant’s penguin
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Vizquel still getting it done
He drove in a run in the top of the 11th of a 0-0 game between Chicago and Seattle.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
I love omar
What’s scary is he’s a massive defensive upgrade at SS for the giants to this day.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Dreamy!
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Mercy
@MAD_Marvin
The FairWeather Channel - Sports Comics and Bandwagon Forecast
by Hit4TheCycle on Jul 21, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Why didn't Donnie Baseball make another Mistake-By-The-Mound?
I thought it would be a regular occurrence
Again!
15 & 2/3rds innings with 2 earned runs looks like 2-0 to me but, again. No run support will undo the excellent work of a starting pitcher and it happened to Barry Zito, again. Chad Billingsley happened to pick tonight to pitch probably the best game of his young career by shutting out the Giants while Barry Zito made one 2nd inning mistake and the game ended right then and there. He’s pitched great since the break and will continue to do so, so score some RUNS!!
Win a game you shoulda lost, lose a game you shoulda won...
That’s BASEBALL, Bitches!!!
[Sunday was still the all time horseshits]
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Cant say we should have won when we never got the lead, or scored
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You post the weirdest pictures here
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Blaspheme!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Philip J. Fry of course.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Front page of MLB.com: Picture of Casey Blake doing a fist pump, with the headline: Dodgers Silence Rivals, End 6 Game Skid.
Sigh.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
The national headlines are always from the Doyers' perspective...
Yesterday it was “Dodgers Lose Again”, etc
yeah
Though to be fair, Nate had a great game.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
they'd look better if they won
or at least wore the high socks.
by MonochromeGarden on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT read that book aloud to friends while high.
That is, if you really hate laughing your ass off.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Only Zito and Cain wear the high socks. We need to talk Nate into wearing them again.
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
shirtlessness? high socks? that’s too much for the boy to keep track of!
by MonochromeGarden on Jul 21, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
step 1: take off shirt
step 2: put on high socks.
i don’t see what’s so complicated.
"throw ground balls, they're more democratic."
by Hummbaby711 on Jul 21, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
pants: optional
"throw ground balls, they're more democratic."
by Hummbaby711 on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
god yes.

"throw ground balls, they're more democratic."
by Hummbaby711 on Jul 21, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched video from Sanchez’s no no. Some of the best parts of that are the shots of Nate wearing the high socks.
(Weirdly, Ishi, Nate and Bowker were all in that game.)
Buser Posey: He knows the rules!
i think
i need some private time now.
"throw ground balls, they're more democratic."
by Hummbaby711 on Jul 21, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Nate thought he HAD some.
Jesus, you freaks.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowtie knows how to get the female contingent to ballgames.
by MonochromeGarden on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
cherry on top

"throw ground balls, they're more democratic."
by Hummbaby711 on Jul 21, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, my.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, heimy.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
i know, this is like pornographic.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
and yet I can’t stop looking
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice.
I want him to wear high socks just one time.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
sl

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
too… cute… cannot… handle… the cute…
by MonochromeGarden on Jul 21, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
High socks should be mandatory.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jul 21, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Still can’t find the socks Zito wears.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
Good to know… early in the season I looked for them in the ballpark Dugout and they didn’t have any.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jul 22, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a picture of Timmy in high socks somewhere.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Here it is!

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
asdf

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
He needs to go back to this look.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 22, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
child why don't you do this anymore??!?!!!?
also cut ur hair
by MonochromeGarden on Jul 22, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't it come with one?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
true.
but still hot.
"throw ground balls, they're more democratic."
by Hummbaby711 on Jul 21, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I always imagined
that spousal abuse is highest amongst the McCoven then any other group on SB Nation
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
than
/correction is not “spousal abuse”/
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
so so foine
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I would imagine watching this game is pretty similar to watching Ray Ratto and Tommy Lasorda make love for three hours.
What is thought cannot be unthought!!!!
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Jul 21, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad mental image, bad mental image.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You couldn’t tell where one ends and the other begins.
Bowkermania is running wild over the PCL, brother.
by rightcenterfielder on Jul 21, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s horrible
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You are a terrible person for making me think about this.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, no longer above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart!
I hate you.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
oh jesus

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I don’t get why we’re so mean to Ratto. He seems alright to me
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I randomly came across that on some 49ers forum, I didn’t make that lol
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
hey look!
It’s Grant’s Walrus
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I like this one

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
lol bobby jenks
fat
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL JENKS
mariners win lulz
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
But the man is a man that blames the man.
Paradox’s hurt my head.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
“You don’t text a picture of my dog to all the guys in my phone with the caption ‘this is you’ on it!”
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jul 21, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I turned it off what goodness did I miss?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Who would like to engage in trade talk?
Mind numbing trade talk. YUM!
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM PDT reply actions
Bieber, Timberlake, Seacrest and Cannon
for Cain
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Lead the league in wet panties for sure
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what?
After last night, I don’t give a fuck. We still BEAT LA in the series. Fuck ’em.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who is currently having a second half renaissance
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Last night makes this loss not hurt at all. I’m in a strangely good mood for some reason must be the poseys.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
NOT your, um, suffix?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
zeetz approved
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
421
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely greedy
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Walrus
needs a good fucking too
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 21, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
“And that was the worst base-running in the history of the game!”
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
“…Lofton SWINGS, LINEDRIVEBASEHITRIGHTFIELD!”
2:10 in. You know the drill.
– sniff –
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, no longer above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart!
THIS
Seriously, how can you give up a 2 out 2 run double to oscar salazar?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants need to put a streak together if they’re gonna win this thing
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
I think were still on the streak. Were 5-2 after the break so far.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m talking like a 10 gamer
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
not too highly improbable, imo
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Our W% is .547
If that’s our true winning percentage, then we’d have a .2% chance of winning 10 in a row.
That’s definitely improbable.
ha, I was gonna say “I’ll take it!”
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Every pitcher the Giants send out there, I expect to win, so why not 10?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, yes we don’t
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
In a way, Zito's anger was comforting.
When he was pulled in the eighth, it was VERY obvious that he was pissed. I turned to my wife and started to wonder why he was so mad at being on the losing end of a one run game when he had clearly done a great job and kept the Giants in it, but then I realized he really, truly seemed to think things could/should be going even better.
That is not the Zito of the past, who was near-stoned in post-game interviews: “Oh, I just gotta stay centered next time out and not give up 7 runs in the first inning…” etc.
It’s nice to see a team that WANTS it, and actually has the tools to possibly make it happen.
And woohoo for Buster bringin’ it for 15 games and counting…!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Even when Pablo got the run in
He was obviously frustrated. And it’s always good to see the players care.
Better than Rowand seeing 3 pitches and then talking about full panic mode.
And don’t make fun of the stoned pitchers, we need our little stoner to get stoned again.
I forgot to mention we had some sweet defense tonight.
Ishi had that airborne tag that was pretty close, and though it gave up the second run, Torres made a great stop of a fly that could have been MUCH worse.
I also really enjoyed right before that play when Posey bluffed to second, and the camera caught several seconds of him with a HUGE smile about it afterward.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
and how Posey worked Billingsley in the ninth was cool, too
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, catch your breath, there
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
And I’ve noticed Affeldt doing the same thing; talking/yelling to himself on the mound.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jul 22, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't like this game
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
By the way
I hate Casey Blake
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 21, 2010 10:23 PM PDT reply actions
if he ever ends up on the Giants, I’ll croak
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 21, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather hate Casey Blake than Carlos Santana
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yeah I hate not carlos santana but at least he’s declining extremely fast.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna laugh for 3 years while the indians pay him the minimum and the dodgers suffer with russel martin.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I can almost guarantee you
that Russell martin is non tendered this offseason, AJ style.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Wouldn't doubt it
What’s also funny is the fact that there’s a good chance manny ramirez won’t have more than 100 at bats the rest of this season LOL 25 MILLION.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This
If they have a brain they will do that but his contract is ridiculous I think he’s still owed over 10 million LOL. They will probably hold onto him for marketing reasons since they have fans dumb enough to be intrigued by that.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Check this out
The Dodgers will be paying 20M to dudes that doesn’t play on the team
2011
Manny Ramirez 8.33M
Nomar Garciapara 3.5M
Jason Schmidt 2.5M
Andruw Jones 3.2M
Juan Pierre 3.5M
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
LOL NED
Glad to see Jason Schmidt still leeching money from the dodgers. He will forever be my hero for signing that 3 year 27 million dollar deal and not doing shit for them lol.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Schmidt was 3 years, 47M
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Wow
I thought it was only for 27 LOL DODGERS.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
remember when people thought signing Manny could be the key to the Giants winning the West. that was cute
We'll never know, will we?
/grinds teeth
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I am proud to say I never wanted Manny on this team.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
IAWTC
Even if he wasn’t another roid-monster (can you imagine the field day the press would have had to follow up the Barry controversy with Manny confirmed and convicted on steroids? YIKES!), Manny’s attitude sucks, and I would never want that on my team.
No amount of amazing hitting balances out being an asshole. There’s a reason there are more Yankee haters than there are Red Sox fans: winning is nice, but when you’re a prick about it, nobody cares. (Not that I need a whole lot of love from other fans if the Giants win it, but having a little respect would be nice.)
As others have commented here throughout this season to date, one of the more positive intangibles this team has this year is a truly optimistic team spirit. They work well together, support each other, etc. I honestly think that Manny (or someone like him) could possibly be a subtraction by addition in that sense.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Sorry
There is an amount of hitting that balances out being an asshole. Bonds balanced it. Kent balanced it. Manny would have too. We would have been a better team for the past few years with him on it.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I respectfully disagree.
I know I’m in the minority on this one, but that’s where I’m at.
Regardless of what you mention about my first point, I still maintain (as others have) that there seems to be a great clubhouse vibe going this year, and here’s to hoping it continues, no matter who gets traded (or none at all!) by the deadline!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
If clubhouse chemistry was so important
Gamer McGoodteammate Aaron Rowand would have lead us to the playoffs two years running.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I think you misunderstand me.
I didn’t think it was important, but it’s pleasant at the moment. I admitted from the outset that it’s an intangible; it doesn’t have any measurable effect.
I’m just glad that when the Giants lose, they don’t hate each other as much as we hate them. :D
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Fair
I just happen to care more about winning than clubhouse chemistry. That doesn’t mean it isn’t fun to watch these players though.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
He has not really been worth the money he is being paid over the last two years.
Plus the fun media surrounding his suspension last year would have been just great for the team.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Indeed.
I’ll admit I did a bit of gloating when they Dodgers picked him up; even if he’d stayed healthy, not been suspended, etc. the pricetag seemed awfully high at the time.
The fact that Manny has out-Manny-ed himself just makes it all the more satisfying as a Giants fan.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Bonds also never quit on his team
Unlike Manny.
That’s the difference. When Barry was on the field, he never showed a lack of effort like Manny does.
What is the explanation for his dropoff? A few years ago he looked like he’d be a perennial all-star for a long time
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome back!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
the Lefty ODoul arm story is pretty funny
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
KEEP PLAYING DIAMONDBACKS!
PLAY 20!
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions
I don’t know why it was tonight and not some other day, but for the first time in at least two years I looked forward to the top of the lineup coming up. Torres, Sanchez, Huff, Posey, Pablo… I felt like we had a shot with them
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
LIVERPOOL F.C.
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 21, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
What about them
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
due to finish outside the top 4 again unfortunately........
sigh
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 21, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
but there gunna beat MAN U!
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 21, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It's ok
You can djp4cal can discuss the Europa League this year :)
/cheap shot. Sorry djp
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
low blow
haha
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READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 21, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
United didn’t exactly tear Philly up in today’s preseason match
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
so i am watching the dbacks/mets game
….and the travelocity gnome is sitting behind home plate.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 21, 2010 11:06 PM PDT reply actions
heh
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"You can shake a dozen glove men out of a tree, but the bat separates the men from the boys." - Washington Senators First baseman Dale Long
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Just got home from the game
It sucked and I had this older couple in their 50s or so that were just huge assholes. Called Panda a fatass :( I had to try to not say something.The good: Nate had a great game (LOL SHOWCASE), Zito pitched pretty well, and Buster extended his hitting streak to 15 games. Lots of hard hit balls that just found their way into gloves, unfortunate but it happens.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
Something about a half century of breathing that just sours your perspective.
/checks his bdate…
12/20/59
/searches for flux capacitor
/finds a cheap knockoff, installs it

I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no
They were huge assholes, they were making rude comments the whole game and shouting being so annoying. The worst comment was when Pablo got up to bat the second time they called Panda a fatass. I feel like with these players they are on our team, and I feel like it’s ok for us to make fun of them but when outsiders do I feel angry.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
I feel like it’s ok for us to make fun of them but when outsiders do I feel angry.
You’re gonna fit in here so well.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
From MLBTR chat today
[Comment From Brian SabeanBrian Sabean: ]
Do you think that there a realistic chance that I can land Prince Fielder in San Francisco, in a package around Jonathan Sanchez and some low prospects?
Wednesday July 21, 2010 2:20 Brian Sabean
2:21 Sanchez seems a decent centerpiece to me, though maybe the Brewers want more control. I don’t see the Giants taking the hit to their rotation like that
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
If we could lock Fielder up for a few more years then I’d be all for that.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
If we could lock Lindsay Lohan up for a few more weeks I’d be all for that.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
weeks?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually think it's the right amount of time
He’s here for this year and next, while Belt spends all of 2011 in Fresno. Fielder leaves and gets 200M from some other team, Belt steps in and we get draft picks for the 2012 draft.
Of course, all of this depends on who the other prospects that go to Milwaukee are-I’d be in favor of it as long as no Wheeler and no Belt go with Dirty
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I do not endorsing the result of this contest between the two clubs playing the game of base ball.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
by bigboneded on Jul 21, 2010 11:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The mets just got swept for their second series in a row and haven't won a game since the ASB
Oh wait….
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant Blank and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto to Ogata Taketora on January 9, 1942.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
No need to get ugly.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
finally the diamondbacks scored only took them till the 14th. That’s incredible that their pen pitched that much scoreless relief LOL MESS.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
What’s wrong?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
having hardly any internet connection
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Oh and plus not telling Grant that McC sucks, OH WAIT
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i know, right?
i’ve been tweeting everyone here, and that’s bout it… Grant? does he deserve a tweet? nah, he’s not worthy
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL. Grant’s not worthy.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
meh, he’s “overlord” of a FORUM, what’s that reallllllly mean, i mean, no offense, but people that are mods here, all they really do is ban people and give their opinion, not that it’s right or wrong, it’s their opinion
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You know, because people on twitter are so much more empowered:
they compose a <160 character rant about shit that most people don’t care about and hope everyone follows them around.
READ MY BLOG! er….TWEET!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
/banned
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, that sucks.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 21, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Back up, folks. Give him room.
And a clear right margin.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 21, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry but yea, there's this guy who keeps being so sarcastic
was wondering if you could help me find him?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
it was awesome, they had happy hour all day, and i had no idea, it was celebration for their fall beer, so my buddy and i just went without knowing it, and it was great
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
for sure, but yea, they had the game on
so i loosely paid attention to the game while my buddy and i killed 2 pitchers of the seasonal ale
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoops, so much for "subject line remembrance"
“View Image Info”
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
lol Bay
In July, he’s hitting just .169 with two extra-base hits and a 20/5 K/BB ratio. He e finished the series against Arizona with no hits and eight strikeouts in 12 at-bats.
I’m so glad the Giants didn’t sign this guy
Hey give him a break he was facing some great arms in a really spacious yard
LOL BAY
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 21, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone needs to make a GIF of what posey did when affeldt struck out ethier to end the game last night. Whatever he did it was awesome and I especially enjoyed the fist pump in ethiers face.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
In turn, I suggest you learn to make GIFs.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I am at peace with this loss to the Dodgers.
It’s nice to be able to say that. Good things ahead.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
Wow.
extrabaggs
MERCURY EXCLUSIVE: Giants & D-Backs will open 2011 reg. season w/2-game series in Taiwan, if players approve proposal: http://bit.ly/bUM5MM
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 22, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions
Great
Give those damn Taiwanese brats who always win the Little League World Series some lessons in hacking at American pitching.
“Now up to bat for Taiwan, Ah-roon Roo-wan-du!”
And then the kids from America will win.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
As a player, there is no way I’d be cool with this
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 22, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
2 game set then another week of spring training?
EW. i hate this idea
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 22, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
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Yes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I’ll pay double, triple the face value for tickets if necessary. The Dodgers exhibition game against Chinese Taipei sold out in less than 1 hour for all 3 games.
I’ll bring the whole family home. Yes I know I can watch the Giants anytime in the states, but this is special. This is watching my favorite team play in my home land, and it will mean more to me to go to this game and share my 20 years of Giants baseball experiences with everybody in the section, in my Giants French Vanilla uniform, than going to a world series game.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Jul 22, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
A lot of green in yesterday's post-game thread
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Amidst all this . . .
. . . I am wondering about sending Zito back out for the 8th. I think someone needs to get one of those old Weller wood-burning tools and burn into Bochy’s hide the words Barry Zito is not a deep-innings pitcher. It didn’t end up mattering, but that run given up in the 8th—which was almost guaranteed, given Zito’s history and manifest small but visible and growing loss of control—might have been crucial. In this neck of the woods, we thought it a mistake to even send him out for the 7th in light of the pitch count.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
it's moot
1 run was all the Dodgers needed anyway. On most nights now with our suddenly good offense, we will be able to overcome 2 runs. I am deeply unconcerned.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The concern is . . .
. . . that this is a recurring pattern. It can, and probably will, cost something in future.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
This is one of my slower nights.
What, pray tell, does the image signify, in context?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
That's right, Bond16.
All the way to the year 2000.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Now you're catching on

I can’t repel fail of this magnitude!
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
If the original image . . .
. . . was a reference to some shtick Conan does, it lies completely outside my purview. My television viewing, outside of ball games, is largely limited to DVDs of Dr Who and of Marx Brothers movies, with only occasional exceptions (e.g. The Maltese Falcon).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
oh wow
So you have no pop culture frame of reference whatsoever? I respect that, but I didn’t know there were still people like you on the Internet.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
"Whaddya mean, you people?"
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
What do YOU mean, you people?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
"You people - what do you mean?"
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
"Pop culture" is a flexible term.
I was for a while in my checkered career a DJ at a station specializing what was in those days called “underground rock”. I may have been the first American citizen to literally get his hands on an Elton John album—the record company sent a rep to hand carry to the station, one of only two in the US then so treated, the LP (you may have heard of those?) promoting this young unknown artist. But I missed the tuna-sald lunch with Hot Tuna, since I had the evening show. So I have a “pop culture” frame of reference. (It is one that includes Jack Paar, who famously remarked “I’ve never seen a TV show I didn’t like.”)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
far out, man
LPs are like, really big CDs, yeah?
I chuckle at a day when Elton John was considered “underground”. Your dialogue amuses me. Continue with stories of your youth.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Which ones would you like?
I had quite a few quite various “youths”.
But if you are serious (in a sarky way) about Elton John, you assuredly have a number of sharp surprises coming along over the next few years.
But perhaps you would like to hear about the youth in which I designed satellite electronics systems? Or the one in which I sold sides of beef over the telephone? Or was assistant manager for 3,000 rental units in SF? If you don’t like those, I have others (including the mandatory year travelling arouhd Europe). Let me know.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I mean of course that Elton John is one of the most wildly popular mainstream musicians the world has ever seen, and to hear of a time when he was considered “underground” is fascinating to a music history buff such as myself.
It seems you have had a great many careers. What do you suppose has brought you to so many different vocations? Is it discontent, a wandering spirit, authority issues? Also, were you alive the last time the Giants won the WS? Because my dad wasn’t.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh.
(Ecclesiastes)
Do you recall—well, recall hearing about—Elvis’s quasi-censored appearance on Ed Sullivan? (No part of his body below the waist shown). “Reefer Madness” was before even my time, but the attitudes were still in the air. So yes, Elton John was more or less “underground” when freshly minted.
Was I alive the last time the Giants won the WS? Shirley, you jest. Whitey Lockman and Wes Westrum were my boyhood favorites. I remember (albeit very dimly) The Shot Heard Round the World. Heck, I remember crying at Harry Truman’s broadcast announcement that he wouldn’t run again (we lived in New York City and were a Democratic household, but I repeat myself there).
Yes, I have had a great many careers. In Alexei Panshin’s delightful Anthony Villiers novels, an elderly couple named Pickles and Daisy (from their vaudeville days) are described thus: they made life up as they went along. I rather like it. There are very few things I have done for more than three years at a time (and not many that long). As I say when people ask me about my taxi-driver days, the first year was fun, like being in a movie about it; the second year it was just a job; and the third year was all I needed to make it the last year. Ditto with writing procedural manuals for banks. Or playing blackjack professionally. And a few other things. The only thing I stuck with for a long time was the extremely boring business I founded, because it was a cash cow, and the baseball consulting (which was probably the most fun of all).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Tuna Melt!
Keep on truckin mama,
truck my blues away
I said, Keep on truckin mama,
truck my blues away
Here You come Babe as big as sin
I can tell what you been doin by the shape your in
So Keep on truckin mama,
truck my blues away…
If you’ve been doin’ like I think ya been doin, ya can’t do that round here,
If you’ve been doin’ like I think ya been doin, ya can’t do that round here
Here you come mama big as hell
I can tell what you’ve been doin by the way you smell
So Keep on truckin mama,
truck my blues away…
Now whats that smells like fish oh babe
I really would like to know
Now whats that smells like fish pretty mama
That ain’t pork & baby that ain’t pie
Thats the stuff that got you by
So Keep on truckin mama,
truck my blues away…
Yes you gotta leave my house This mornin’
Get your yes yes out of my door
I said Yes you gotta leave my house This mornin’
Get your yes yes out of my door
Ashes to ashes & dust to dust
What ya gonna do when that damn thing rusts
So Keep on truckin mama,
truck my blues away…
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Scintillating
What sort of education did you have, that made you qualified for all of that? And what was the “boring business” you founded? You should write a book. Actually, you may have already done so, I wouldn’t put it past you.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
LOLOLDer than me
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
B.E.E., Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Freshman saying: “Six months ago I couldn’t even spell Rensselaer, now I are one.”
Book: The Sinister First Baseman & Other Observations (not autobiographical).
The boring business was (I guess technically still is) called The Lawsmiths: it was an agency for attorneys doing work on a temp basis by the hour for other attorneys; it doesn’t sound exciting (and wasn’t), but it was the very first such agency in the world (my partner and I were once even interviewed by a Japanese newspaper, and were written up, albeit briedly, in Time, The New York Times, and suchlike places). The nice thing was that it was almost entirely electronic, from telephone to fax, so, to not coin a phrase, no one knows when you’re working in your underwear. As we had anticipated, eventually big corporations got into the business, and from dominant we went to being a boutique operation without changing our business volume—but that was OK because I’m very lazy. It was still bringing in some minimal side income as recently as a couple of years ago. (When we retired, we didn’t do anything but let it just wind down on its own.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
So you're Eric Walker, yes?
From the reviews of this book, it appears to have inspired Moneyball. Any thoughts?
And where is Rensselaer located in the world?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Yes.
Thoughts? Yes, two installments’ worth of them.
RPI is in Troy, NY (original home of the Troy Haymakers, the team that would go on to become the Giants). We had a saying: Albany, NY, is the asshole of the universe and Troy is 10 miles up from Albany. There are few things more depressing than a once-booming industrial town fallen on hard end days.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
It appears
That I have at last asked the correct person to regale me with stories of their youth. You are a fount of pure historical joy, good sir. I humbly apologize for any prior disrespect.
This is the equivalent of twelve-year-old me walking down the street, bumping into a random stranger, blurting out “Didn’t you used to be JRR Tolkien?” and having my new acquaintance respond in the affirmative.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
No issues.
Who could not like someone whose sig line is from Groucho? We have all of the brothers’ films, plus some miscellaneous material, on DVD, and run through them all in order once every year or two. (Rather as with Dr Who, with whom we are now into the McCoy era in post-game watching.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I just finished the two-parter you wrote on Deadspin.
Good writing, but man the comments are brutal. They really took you to the cleaners there. But they are Deadspin commenters, and the Lord shall sort through them when they are dead.
I try to watch or read, or listen to anything I feel is historically/culturally significant. You quoted Jack Parr earlier, but when Mr. Parr was alive, there were three TV channels. I am certain he would have found at least something (probably a movie on Sci-Fi) unwatchable.
For this reason I watch Jeopardy daily, and have read all of the thousands of books in my home save one, which I am ashamed to say I found too dense to get through.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
What they didn't grasp . . .
. . . is that the article was solicited (not volunteered), and that the tone and shape of it was as requested in on-going dialogues with the editor as the drafts proceeded.
Jack Paar meant that whenever he came across a show he didn’t like, he turned it off (in an era when a lot of people used TV like Muzak for their lives). I may be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall him making some sarky remark about how most sets came with an on/off switch.
mrs. owlcroft has TV tastes a bit more expansive than mine. She was a fan of an old Brian Keith show called “Hardcastle & McCormick”, and was shocked to discover that Brian Keith had no star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. So she and two other women in the Yahoo group for the show rolled up their sleeves and got him a posthumous star (which, among many other things, requires raising $25 grand to pay the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce). It was one of very, very, very few stars ever paid for exclusively by a fan group (as opposed to the person in question, his family, or a major studio, or some combination of those). The three also wrote a book on the show which got some nice comments. I was briefly at the post-star ceremonies with them, and it was fun.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I grasped that pretty quickly
The preamble to your column made it clear to me that this was a story that had been asked, perhaps even coaxed out of you. Any back-patting therein was by the design of the website itself.
So is there a reason for your shunning of modern cultural touchstones? I find a lot of people’s taste in music doesn’t expand beyond their adolescence, but it’s rare for other forms of entertainment to lose their appeal in this same manner.
The book I haven’t finished, in case you were wondering, is Kant’s Philosophy of Material Nature. It’s not terribly difficult reading, it’s just that he refers to so many of his previous works that I haven’t read, and therefore his reasoning is difficult to follow.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Modern cultural touchstones
Eh. Disinterest, I suppose. I don’t sample modern popular music because I generally much prefer classical, or, for a change of pace, jazz or bluegrass. The snippets I hear seem mostly dreadful, but I suppose that snippets of anything sound dreadful, by extended application of Sturgeon’s Law. As to TV, I never found much besides the occasional comedy show interesting even back in the day. (We have the complete Man From U.N.C.L.E.—which I consider comedy—on DVD, but I wonder if we’ll ever watch it through a second time.)
I find most philosophy dead-end. I took a year of Oriental Philosophy in college (rare stuff at an engineering school), and I think after exposure to the mystic philosophies, the rational ones seem useless: the questions of epistomology are an impenetrable brick wall—if you can’t refute solipsism (and I don’t believe anyone besides Dr. Johnson has ever claimed that one can), all else seems sterile pedagogery.
My preferred reading is speculative fiction. I have something like 1500 books of it on my shelves, and I only keep the ones I think nontrivially above average. I also have a minor, one might say, in mystery fiction.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Speculative fiction
You mean scifi-fantasy, yes? I see the Hitchhiker’s Guide on the list from the site you linked to. That’s my preferred reading as well; I started with The Hobbit when I was eight and never stopped. Not all of it is good, a chunk of it is utter crap, but there are a few serious gems in there.
Solipsism is something I encountered in my own thought process at a rather young age- probably nine or so. I quickly understood as I puzzled philosophy that I could never REALLY be sure whether or not anything at all was real. It was a disheartening thought, but I resolved to give the entire question a thorough, definitive ‘shrug’. Meh, I said. If it isn’t real, it’s pointless to worry about it because one’s philosophy should dictate how one ACTS. If reality is, in fact, not real, the whole process is moot.
If, however, it is real, then I am also real and then my philosophy matters insofar as it dictates my relationship with others and my environment. Therefore, I decided that it is fruitless to even wonder if anything is real or not, and I decided to act on the presumption that everything is actually real.
Early in my adolescence I became a Christian, and chief amongst my troubles was that I inevitably came across those with the thinking that “If it’s in the Bible it is true, and it is true because it is in the Bible.” This is an utterly circular argument, not even fit for consideration. Convinced in my beliefs as I am, I sought rational, tenable and defensible proofs of my faith. I studied apologetics and exegesis, but it never accomplished what I have been looking for, which is the ability to portray and believe in God scientifically and express it in numbers.
This is why I appreciate your work so much, and am honored to be communicating with you. Your work takes something as abstract, amorphous, and transitory as baseball and expresses it with numbers. It can truly be understood and appreciated in that manner.
People say that to believe in God requires faith, and this is true. But God has created an awful lot of stubborn people, just like God created all those old-time baseball types. Surely what I have been seeking is not so far removed from what you have unleashed on our world. Perhaps mine is a doomed endeavor, but it is my great passion. After all, here I sit talking to an electrical engineer about faith. How sad am I?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I suspect . . .
. . . that this post-game thread has about dried up and we’re the only ones keeping it alive.
Also: not sad. All good conversations go tangential. More later on some other thread.
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sounds good
see you around, old timer.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Sidebar:
You are in Santa’s “good” book, but to avoid transferral to his “naughty” book, don’t use they or their in the singular.
I can to this day recall walking about in my neighborhood at something like age 11 or 12 and having a small child ask me “Can you tell me what time it is, sir?” Very first time in my life addressed as “sir”.
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Huh, Renesselaer?
I had a college PE student instructor who went there for undergrad.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Well tonight sucked
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 22, 2010 12:43 AM PDT reply actions
Lame game
But still a good day.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
NOT A GOOD FAN
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 22, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
CEILING FAN
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Huh, so a quick search revealed I never commented here on the Scott Barnes trade thread
I thought for sure I did. Oh well.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
was at the games
dodger fans have no class
i was in the parking lot leaving as these two hags walked by and one of them muttered “scumbag”
really? scumbag? are you serious? who the hell uses the word “scumbag”
Douchebags
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 22, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It's generational.
I daresay “douchebag” (which seems much less nasty) will go the same way soon enough. (Without getting graphic, you do grasp what a scumbag is, do you not?)
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Does it have to do with Coney Island Whitefish?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
GO, WHITEFISH!
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Go, Gefilte Fish!
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 22, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I have never heard someone use ‘scumbag’ in its original meaning.
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Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Timmy!
Red Bull today will officially announce that it has signed MLB Giants P Tim Lincecum to an endorsement deal. Terms were not disclosed (Red Bull).
Somewhere in his troubled post baseball obscurity Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd is grinning.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 22, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Baggs was on fire in the post game notes
Just keep this in mind: Brian Sabean is a tire kicker of the first order. When the Michelin Man sees Sabes coming, he frantically hides the little Michelin children.
The Giants are exploring all avenues to improve their offense, and that means "checking off boxes" and "kicking tires" and "doing the due diligence voodoo that they do."
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
The silver lining is that I was able to watch the entire game on my android phone without having to buy the at bat app. Flash FTW!!!
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
I have MLB.TV subscription and now Android supports flash so I just went to the site and watched the game just like I would on my ’puter.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
BABIP
This site puts WAY too much emphasis on that stat. Especially for hitters
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
There is a difference
Between BABIP the stat and BABIP’d, the phrase which just means that we hit balls pretty well and nothing found holes.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
what does it mean? does it have ribeyez?
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Did someone say RIB EYEZ?!

Buster. Posey.
by deuce deuce on Jul 22, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The amount of line drives + the amount of base runners from last night will usually get a team at least one run, usually more. That’s all I was trying to say. When that doesn’t happen, you’re getting BABIP’d on.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 22, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
fap? wut?
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 22, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Understood...
Yo comprende
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by milesntrane on Jul 22, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
An interesting rule of thumb . . .
. . . which is admittedly of a very coarse, broad-brush sort, is one run for every three men reaching base.
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IMO
This series against the DBacks is a MUST WIN!
Not because it’s late enough in the season that anything is a must win, but because our schedule is so jam packed full of over-.500 teams that we really can’t afford to do anything but win the series against the shit teams.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I’m sure the D’Backs are confident coming off a 3 game sweep. It’ll make it a little more difficult.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 22, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
All games are must-win
WE MUST NEVER LOSE
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
FREE POSEY IS FREE
yea!
they should give us one of those dan uggla things
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 22, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I fucking hate Casey Blake.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
/not carlos santana
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 22, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I read that as, “I hate fucking Casey Blake.”
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Not mutually exclusive.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 22, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
“I hate hate-fucking Casey Blake.”
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I don't hate

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Well, the Rockies and the Padres have already lost today, as well as the Reds.
I vote we win today.
I should rephrase that. The Padres are down 8-0 in the top of the ninth.
Knowing that fucking team, they’ll probably win anyway.
A 9 run comeback in the 9th is something I've come to expect more from CO than SD,
but,sadly, that’s only because it’s already happened.
They’re both pretty annoying when it comes to overcoming deficits.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
yeah, but Eckstein is on the DL…
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 22, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
FAH KING EX TEIN
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yeah, the longer he's not playing, the happier I'll be.
Not that I wish injury on anyone; he can just sit on the bench for awhile and get lots of rest…
His batting stance replaced Rownads’ as most annoying to watch in my book; it drives me crazy! That, and his tendency to go from “suck” to “clutch” precisely when the Padres need him to, including in a few games-to-not-be-mentioned against us.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
At FanGraphs, Aaron Rowand and Carlos Lee make their way onto Dave Cameron’s list of the MLB players with the least trade value.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 22, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
No Series preview today?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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COME ON MCC BRASZ
STOP SITTING ON UR HANDS GRANT.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Tim Flannery: Make better decisions dammit.
The series preview is on twitter
available to McCovey Premium users only.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
14.99, comes with iphone App.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The app has a live look in feed to Grant's office and llama pen.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
BEAT AZ!
just sayin’
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