minor lines, 7/15/10
by steve S on Jul 15, 2010 10:38 PM PDT
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PrintHighlights from the Giants' farm: Brandon Belt homered and tripled while reaching base four times, and Charlie Culberson had four hits.
AAA: Fresno lost to Las Vegas 3-0
Fresno: RF Eugenio Velez: 1 for 2, 2B, BB, SH, E
Fresno: DH Jesus Guzman: 1 for 3, 2B, BB, SO
Las Vegas: C J.P. Arencibia: 1 for 5, HR
Fresno: SP Kevin Pucetas: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K--1 HR
Velez and Guzman each reached base twice. Guzman had his 9th double, and Velez his 8th double. The Blue Jays' Arencibia led off the 2nd innings with his 26th HR.
Pucetas, who has averaged less than five innings per start this year, had his second straight start with 6.0 IP. He wasn't particularly efficient with his pitch count, though, throwing 104 pitches (66 strikes).
AA: Richmond lost to Bowie 8-6
Richmond: 2B Nick Noonan: 3 for 5, 2 SO
Richmond: LF Thomas Neal: 2 for 5, 2 2B
Richmond: 1B Brandon Belt: 3 for 4, HR, 3B, BB
Richmond: SP Felix Romero: 5.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 5 K--1 HR
Richmond: RP Rafael Cova: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB
Bowie: SP Steve Johnson: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 WP
The heart of the Flying Squirrels' lineup may have had their best game of the year with the second, third, and fourth hitters in their lineup combining to go 8 for 14 with 4 XBH and 1 BB. Belt reached base four times, including his 5th HR and 1st triple since his promotion to the upper minors. Noonan added three singles to raise his AVG to .258. Neal had his 22nd and 23rd doubles.
Romero allowed just one run through five innings, but three runs in the 6th inning gave him just his second start in seven starts this year with more than 2 ER allowed. After the Squirrels rallied for four runs in the bottom of the 8th inning, Cova blew the save in the top of the 9th inning. Johnson, whom the Giants selected in the Rule 5 draft before returning him to the Orioles, allowed just one run, getting his ERA back below 6.00.
A+: San Jose defeated High Desert 7-5
San Jose: CF Francisco Peguero: 3 for 4, 3B, BB
San Jose: 2B Charlie Culberson: 4 for 5, SB
San Jose: SP Oliver Odle: 5.2 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 8 K--1 HR
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.1 IP, 3 K--1 WP
Culberson singled four times to raise his AVG above .320. He hasn't been much of a singles hitter this year given his XBH/H ratio above 40%, but tonight all four hits went for a single base, snapping his streak of three straight games with a big fly. Peguero also reached base four times, with his three hits, which included his 8th triple, raising his AVG to .297.
Odle had his second straight start with 5 ER but also had a season-high 8 K. Apparently the beneficiary of excellent run support, he has a 10-3 W-L record despite an ERA over 4.50. Stoffel struck out three of his four batters for his 14th save.
A-: Augusta lost to Charleston 6-5
(allowing two runs in both the 7th and 8th innings)
Augusta: LF Nick Liles: 2 for 5, SB
Augusta: SP Andrew Reichard: 6.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Augusta: RP Jose Casilla: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 1 K
Liles had the GreenJackets' only multi-hit line. He also had his 18th SB.
Reichard allowed four runs, although two of those runs scored after he left the game. The 2 K were a season low (as a starter), and he had a 4/10 GO/FO line. Later in the game, Casilla allowed his two inherited runners to score to suffer his 2nd blown save.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Boise 10-7
(after leading 4-2 through seven innings)
Salem-Keizer: 3B Adam Duvall: 2 for 5, 2B, 2 SO
Salem-Keizer: RF Jose Medina: 2 for 4, HR, HBP, SO
Salem-Keizer: 2B Julio Izturis: 2 for 4, SB
Salem-Keizer: SP Edward: Concepcion: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 3 K--1 HR, 1 HB, 1 WP
Salem-Keizer: RP David Newton: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER
Salem-Keizer: RP Stephen Harrold: 0.1 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 4 ER--1 HR
The 23-year-old Medina reached base three times, including once via his 3rd HR. Duvall and Izturis also had two hits each.
Concepcion had a solid start despite issuing 4 BB for the third time in his six starts. Newton, making his first NWL appearance in four years, and Harrold combined to allow seven runs in the 8th inning.
R: Giants lost to Royals 7-3
Scottsdale: 2B Wes Hobson: 2 for 5, SB
Scottsdale: LF Jose De La Cruz: 2 for 4, GiDP
Scottsdale: SP Austin Fleet: 3.2 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB,4 K
Hobson and De La Cruz both had two hits. Both hitters have AVGs over .320.
After three straight great starts, Fleet scuffled in his fifth start. The 8 H were as many as he had allowed in his last three starts combined.
DSL: Giants lost to Phillies 6-3
Dominican: 2B Alberto Robles: 2 for 3, 3B, 2B, HBP, GiPD
Dominican: SP Marvin Barrios: 4.0 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 3 K--1 HB, 2 WP
Robles (19.10 y.o.) had his third straight multi-hit game, including just his 4th and 5th XBHs of the year (among 37 H). Barrios (17.9 y.o.), who had allowed just 1 ER in his previous 18.0 IP, allowed 3 ER in his second start among six appearances.
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Wow....
Brandon Belt is rather amazing.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jul 15, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions
Neal should've loaned Belt one of his doubles to give him the cycle
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This Belt guy sucks
When are they gonna trade him for a real hitter? C’mon Sabez, stop sittin’ on your hands!
Do we need to start taking Culberson seriously as a prospect now? He’s (gasp) actually doing pretty well this year. If he has like a .410 BABIP or something, don’t tell me. I prefer to keep the beautiful fantasy alive.
IIRC, his K/BB ratio is still awful
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
.342 BABiP, 24% LD
but like Gobroks said, needs moar BB and fewer SO
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 15, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
.342 BABIP isn’t unreasonable for a player in A ball
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
line drive rate is a bullshit stat
complete subjective
It’s a LOT more reliable in the majors
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
This says his cumulative BABIP is .436
or am I reading this wrong?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
the BABIP in question here is actually
Culberson’s, not Belt’s
minorleaguesplits has his BABIP as .359
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sorry dudes.
Wrong party.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Neal=Real
Belted.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
♥Brandon Belt♥
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I already have it...
It’s right below his portrait, and they were able to cover up my Tony Torcato tattoo.
"Triple A baseball isn’t very good. I’m going to tell you that right now. Especially from a pitching standpoint. Anybody who can pitch is in the big league."
by Giant Torture on Jul 16, 2010 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Tramp Stamp
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jul 16, 2010 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Even though I am not the biggest Keith Law fan...
I would appreciate it if he would go scout Belt a little bit. He is the only ESPN guy I read. He would probably be able to give us some reasonable analysis of Belt’s new swing.
All of this production out of Belt has me excited about his future.
KLaw's pontifications
KLaw is such a pompous a$$. He writes that he “hasn’t seen (Belt’s) swing yet” – as if we were all waiting with baited breath for his pronouncement that Belt’s swing is legit, in order to know that he’s a “real” prospect. Any scout who saw Belt play in college would know that he couldn’t have destroyed Cal League, and most recently Eastern League, pitching at such ridiculously outstanding statistical levels this season without having corrected the big problems in his swing from his college days. It’s not as if Belt is just getting lucky or on a temporary hot streak. He’s been performing at this level for over 3 months now – across 2 different leagues.
Here’s a question KLaw needs to answer – why hasn’t he scouted Belt yet? Isn’t it part of his job to ferret out the legit prospects and report back to the ESPN audience? It’s not like Belt has been playing in the deepest wilds of Africa all year. He was in the Cal League for almost 3 months – with the majority of his games being played in the major population centers of the SF Bay area and the greater LA/Riverside County area. And the last 2 weeks he’s been playing within easy travel distance of KLaw’s main place of work. But let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he’s been too busy to take the time to see in person the guy who’s having the best offensive season of anybody in the minor leagues this year. Is he incapable of getting ahold of video of Belt’s ABs? It’s not as if they’re being held as national secrets at some udisclosed military base. Is KLaw incapable of calling up the scouting sources that he knows and asking what they think of Belt and his swing? Isn’t it his job to relay back what his scouting sources are telling him?
Who knows the answer to such questions? One thing I do know for certain is that if Belt were a Yankees, Mets, Boston, or Phillies prospect KLaw would have been slobbering on and on about him nonstop by now.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
That might be a wee bit overly hostile, Fla. I have no real opinion on Law one way or the other (although he does like to talk about himself and what he accomplished in Toronto a little more than I’m comfortable with, which seems to be true of all ESPN’s exes), however one could interpret the “i haven’t seen his new swing yet” comment as admirable full disclosure (as many of the pro commentators would be likely to pass off the scout’s view that came directly after that as their own, implying that they had seen it in person).
And I’d say from ESPN’s perspective, Keith Law is NOT a scout, he’s a commentator. He’s paid to write his material for ESPN, appear on their TV and radio shows and podcasts. If he also sees a game here or there that may be acceptable to them, but that’s not his job. He’s paid for his contacts into the scouting world, not for being a scout himself. So calling minor league scouts and getting their opinion on players is really much more what his job probably calls for.
Now he may well be a pompous ass on top of that, but I wouldn’t want to speculate one way or the other.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I really don’t see Keith Law as a commentator and I think you undervalue his scouting credentials. He scouts a ton of games in person and has gone on the record several times in saying he doesn’t feel comfortable offering an opinion on players for whom he’s never seen. I see someone like Kevin Goldstein as more of a “commentator,” or said more appropriately, a scouting “aggregator.” Goldstein sees far fewer players in person than Law and his evaluations are based almost entirely on information pulled from scouts (nothing wrong with that, of course – just a different approach). While Law certainly will pass along the opinions of other scouts, much of his analysis is based on his own observations of in person games or video. His analysis of 2010 draft prospects on ESPN’s draft blog with Jason Grey was entirely based on his own observations.
FWIW, here’s a good synopsis from Keith himself about his approach to scouting:
CS: How do you balance your own eye vs. your statistical background vs. what you hear from those in the industry — not just in your recent Top 100, but also in your overall approach?
KL: At the end of the day, I try to rely on my own eye as much as possible, and use the other two factors as reality-checks or to slide players’ grades up or down. If I see a player, especially if I get multiple looks, and I really like what I see, I stick with that. It becomes a learning experience – I’m not going to learn anything from rolling with other people’s hunches.
I will say that that formula varies in pro ball. The closer you get to the big leagues, the more relevance the statistics have. That’s why you’re seeing teams like Toronto add staff on the amateur side, where scouting is most critical, and you want as many looks as you can get.
Of course, I do use the data you guys share with me; I’ve found L/R splits extremely useful, as well as home/road splits for players in noticeably skewed parks, and occasionally ground/air ratios if I see a swing issue or a fastball that appears to have good sink or tail. If I was a scouting director, I’d want that data. Nothing more embarrassing than taking a LH hitter only to find out he couldn’t hit a left-hander if the kid was throwing 75 mph and announced his pitches before throwing them.
Wow, jcb9 is still sore from this one
First of all, here’s the actual quote.
Corey (Stockton CA)
Could you please give a report and ETA for Brandon Belt?
Klaw
Haven’t seen the new swing yet, but talked to a scout last week who had – got him a lot more upright and stable and it’s (obviously) made a huge difference. Could be just a year away, maybe a year and a half. Potential impact bat … or excellent trade bait this month.
…..
KLaw is such a pompous a$$. He writes that he "hasn’t seen (Belt’s) swing yet" – as if we were all waiting with baited breath for his pronouncement that Belt’s swing is legit, in order to know that he’s a "real" prospect.
He was asked a question about Belt. It’s not like he went around the streets of San Francisco screaming that he has yet to see Belt, and that everyone should wait until he does before they reach any conclusions. He was asked about him, and chose to start his answer by admitting that he has yet to see him, which is actually a reasonable and responsible thing for a writer to do.
Any scout who saw Belt play in college would know that he couldn’t have destroyed Cal League, and most recently Eastern League, pitching at such ridiculously outstanding statistical levels this season without having corrected the big problems in his swing from his college days
True, and this includes the scout to whom Law talked, and referred in his answer.
Here’s a question KLaw needs to answer – why hasn’t he scouted Belt yet? Isn’t it part of his job to ferret out the legit prospects and report back to the ESPN audience?
Not really. He’s not really a scout, though he does do some scouting. Also, as good as Belt’s season has been, he’s still not even a top-50 prospect (Kevin Goldstein just mentioned that he’s getting into his top-100, and he likes Belt more than the guys at Baseball America). He’s a having a fantastic season, but there are still dozens and dozens of prospects that you’d expect a scout to see before him.
Is KLaw incapable of calling up the scouting sources that he knows and asking what they think of Belt and his swing? Isn’t it his job to relay back what his scouting sources are telling him?
He is capable of that, it is his job, and it’s EXACTLY what he did in the comment you’re complaining about
I was promised lasagna.
Wow, your hostility is way over the top. Law hasn’t seen Belt yet, so he’s passed along what’s heard from other scouts. Get over it.
Yup. Don’t see why we shouldn’t just respect him for his honesty— it’s gotta be tough for a reporter/analyst to get asked a question and have to admit he just doesn’t know the answer yet.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 16, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Fla I’ve read a lot of your posts and I have a lot of respect for your opinion about the MiLB considering you seem to know a lot. What’s your take on Belt? Is it too early to pretty much say he’ll be in the Majors maybe in the middle of next year? What I’m assuming is he’s going to stay in AA for the rest of the season and depending on how well he does there (which I’m sure he’ll do very well) he’ll move up to AAA to start the season and maybe earn a call up about halfway through the season or if not Sepetember call up? Also wondering about Noonan, he’ll probably be repeating AA this year am I right?
It's Posey time!!
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His stats this year are frankly disgusting.
.386/.489/.659, 119 H, 29 2B, 5 3B, 15 HR, 71 RBI, 61 BB, 57 K
I mean what the fuck is that.
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by jponry on Jul 15, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it unreasonable for me to be really excited about the two of them hitting back to back in the middle of the order somewhere in the not too distant future? TWO patient, professional, good young hitters on the same team? That’s not breaking a rule or anything, is it?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 16, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Has a Mauer and Morneau smell to it.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
would I be banned if I say that Belt might be a better hitter than Posey
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 16, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just more walks than Ks, for a while this year he had more BBs AND XBH than Ks. That’s frankly the holy trinity for a hitting prospect. At this point he’s at 61 (BB), 57 (K), and 49 (XBH) so he’s got a little work to do to get back there, but if he could somehow end the season with K < BB and K < XBH while playing half of his first pro year in the EL, I’d have some serious unrestrained enthusiasm going on.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I just threw up in my mouth a little…with joy.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 16, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to see hm get his OPS under .1000… I mean, it’s unseemly.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 16, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey-Sandoval(the good version)-Belt-Neal by this time next year. Crazy optimistic or just very optimistic?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I could see the two of them being called up around this time next year
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ya
I see Neal as a Sept. callup next year, maybe… no sooner.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jul 16, 2010 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Crazy optimistic
Neither has enough grizzle, and I’m still not sold on Neal. I expect Belt spring of 2012.
"Triple A baseball isn’t very good. I’m going to tell you that right now. Especially from a pitching standpoint. Anybody who can pitch is in the big league."
by Giant Torture on Jul 16, 2010 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
You act like warming up the infield every inning is a walk in the park…
It’s going to take awhile for Belt to learn the nuances of warming up a major league infield…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Jul 16, 2010 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This....
Have you been talking to Bork.
"Triple A baseball isn’t very good. I’m going to tell you that right now. Especially from a pitching standpoint. Anybody who can pitch is in the big league."
by Giant Torture on Jul 16, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Wrecked.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
You’ll get :
Posey – Sandoval (the crappy version) – Guillen – Lowell
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I know it's early but
with Belt putting up these crazy numbers, and Ishi being serviceable at the ML level I could see Brett Pill only being on the 40 man roster for this year. Maybe Belt gets a Sept. call up and takes his spot then
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I think Ishikawa and maybe Huff will be a stopgap for next year so Belt can spend 2011 in Fresno and come up in September of 2011 or 2012. But hell, if he keeps doing this, maybe he’s starting Opening Day next year. How awesome would that be?
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
I’d say “why not?” Remember, Sabean already discounts AAA hitting stats anyway. To be consistent, anytime a Richmond hitter does well he should be promoted directly to San Francisco (do not pass Fresno, do not collect minor league meal money).
Posey, Belt, Huff, Neal (RF), & maybe Pablo would be an acceptable middle of the order. Ain’t dreaming grand?
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Posey, Belt, Huff, Neal (RF), & maybe Pablo would be an acceptable middle of the order.
Not to mention cost-effective.
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jul 16, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Sabean et al really and truly understand this concept.
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Brandon Belt looks like he is ordering a cup of coffee for this year
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
He’s going to weigh 250 pounds?
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I was referring to rolling from A+ through AA to the majors in one year, then dominating the majors the following year. But hopefully he leaves out the “get gigantically fat” and “fall dramatically back to earth” parts.
I don’t see why—if he maintained, or even caim close to maintianing his line—why he shouldn’t be pushed to Fresno by August, then if he’s still crushing it, September in SF, then getting the majority of AB’s in Scottsdale with a legit shot to join the club.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to go all Brian Sabean on you, but if he hits in Richmond the way he did in San Jose (or even close) there’s no reason for him to have a pit stop in Fresno. It’s not uncommon (even in well-run organizations!) to have hot prospects go straight from AA to the majors. I don’t know if he can keep up what he’s doing in the EL, facing better pitchers in a much more pitcher-friendly environment, but if he does I expect he’ll get a September call-up.
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they went that route.
I think Stanton skipped AAA, didn’t he?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe Hanley too?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Panda.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 16, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup, but
Stanton shouldn’t have skipped AAA and, in my mind, very obviously shouldn’t have.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Fixed
He’s going to weigh 250 290 pounds?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
BELTED!!!!!
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jul 16, 2010 12:25 AM PDT reply actions
Brandon. Freaking. Belt.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a beautiful day in the barrios
There were a lot of ugly pitching performances throughout the farm system today, especially by some of our best pitchers – starting with our 17 year old prodigy Marvin Barrios and going all the way up to the usually reliable Rafael Cova.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Odle
That has got to be one of the softest 10-3 records I’ve seen in a long time. Odle gets incredible run-support and great bullpen support, but he’s strictly a non-prospect.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Absolutely agree. The last San Jose game I saw had Odle pitching. While I was not particularly excited to see to see Odle as some of the others in the San Jose rotation, I also knew that he would keep the game moving at a nice, comfortable pace given his ability to pound the strike zone. I’d much rather watch Odle than a non-prospect who can’t throw strikes.
Nick Noonan
Seems like he’s starting to come along, which I think is a good sign given that he’s relatively young for AA.
"Triple A baseball isn’t very good. I’m going to tell you that right now. Especially from a pitching standpoint. Anybody who can pitch is in the big league."
The last few years he seems to show a pattern of slow starts as he adjusts to the new level followed by strong finishes. I’d like to see the Giants leave him at AA next season to start and let him show he’s ready for promotion.
Isn’t it funny (and by funny, I mean really sad) that they’ve had no problem moving prospects up the ladder after a slow start, but once they hit the majors a slow start means the end of that player’s career with the Giants. Sigh.
by Splash Down on Jul 16, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Bye, Bye Belt and hello Brett Myers
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
May I board the Belt wagon?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 16, 2010 6:36 AM PDT reply actions
I don't know
It’s getting pretty crowded.
"Triple A baseball isn’t very good. I’m going to tell you that right now. Especially from a pitching standpoint. Anybody who can pitch is in the big league."
by Giant Torture on Jul 16, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Belt is svelte – there’s always room for one more.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Johnson abused by Belt
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
by oldjacket on Jul 16, 2010 8:11 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Johnson abused by Belt
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
by oldjacket on Jul 16, 2010 8:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
stupid phone
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
by oldjacket on Jul 16, 2010 8:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
/ phone abused by oldjacket
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jul 16, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
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That is all.
They could be Giants...but not really.
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this is exactly what crossed my mind at my Bachelor’s party in Centerfolds some 8 years ago. The folks decided to help finance 2 fine classy young ladies through College. I was too drunk to really remember much, but as I came back after the “private room” dance, it was pointed out to me that I am missing a certain leather restraint around my waist.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You should have been suspended.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 16, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Belt is doing all of this against class AA pitching
Which as we all know is where the talent lies!
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Ben Balder answered my question, is a fan of the Belt.
Brandon Belt (Richmond): How did I only make the team photo? Am I a top 100 prospect?
Ben Badler: Definitely top 100, for me. I’m a big, big believer in the bat.
:D
Robert Goldberg (Lyndhurst, NJ): Brandon Belt is having a phenomenal year thus far, and while he’s not Mike Trout or Dominic Brown, every day that he hits in AA, he’s looking more and more like the real deal. I realize his last week wasn’t that stellar (for him), but is he in the conversation for Minor League Player of the Year?
Ben Badler: Yes he is. I really, really like Belt.
Belt, better than Smelt.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Jul 16, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Please see my sig for a perfectly level-headed and reasonable expectation for Brandon Belt’s career.
Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Jul 16, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
wow
I didn’t realize how good John Olerud was for so long…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Jul 16, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the wearing a batting helmet in the field thing…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 16, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
John Olerud? I’m thinking more like Lou Gehrig without the disease.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I’m thinking basically Babe Ruth at first base.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m thinking Buster Posey
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/flagged
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 16, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
don't you push me!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Brandon "The Thrill" Belt
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 16, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I would just like to say
That I was on the Belt wagon as soon as he was drafted. It is documented. Hell I even picked him up as my Adopted Giant, before he was taken away from me.
/I know, I know, I’m really cool.
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
Does anyone think that the FO not extending huffs contract could be related to hopes of Belt at 1b next year? I know how some giants prospects get the shaft in terms of being promoted to the bigs but sabez likes to counter that sometimes with some aggressive promotions.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
Doubtful.
It’s just Sabean being Sabean. Huff and Burrell could be re-upped right now for, I’d wager, relatively modest amounts and periods (say, 2 years). It would be a sound wager, as there is good reason to believe that their current production is not too far ahead of what they could do over the next year or so, by which time—one hopes—the new kids would be about ready to take up the reins, and a trade of the vets should at least wipe their remaining salaries. But no, we don’t negotiate mid-season, that’s not The Giants Way®. We like to wait till the player is a free agent.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
guess that means that Brett Pill will be Wally Pipp’d before he gets Travis Ishikawa’d
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 16, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
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