Post-game thread: Giant bats wake up again
The late-inning rally, started by Aaron Rowand, was...

Pretty much. I wasn't expecting to write this after the first inning: good win, GIants.
Also of note: Buster Posey has the best opposite-field swing for a right-handed hitter that I’ve seen since Mike Piazza. Even better, Posey doesn’t have a noodle arm, an elk’s head for a mitt, and a terrible moustache. Everything’s looking up right now.
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Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 10, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
he was a very good dog
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
I’d love to see Kirk Reuter congratulating Buster Posey more often, too.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
by dregarx on Jul 10, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I LAWLed.
Which probably startled the neighbors as it was three in the morning.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
/Rec’d
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
nice
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I'll post this again:
ESPN Projected Stats: Buster Posey
Games: 112
At-Bats: 406
Hits: 142
Runs: 64
2B: 15
3B: 3
Home Runs: 21
RBI: 70
BB: 21
K: 45
Line: .351/.386/.560/.946
by deuce deuce on Jul 10, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Runners thrown out at third: 87
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
by dregarx on Jul 10, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That one today was sweet
It had a noticeable downward trajectory out of his hand and still got to Pablo waist high.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
by achiappanza on Jul 10, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Not being Bengie Molina: ∞
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 11, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
.351/.386/.560
BUSTER BUSTER BUSTER BUSTER BUSTER BUSTER
How is his OBP so low relative to BA?
I guess he just hasn’t walked much? Too busy hitting oppo HRs?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
He hasn’t been walking a ton yet and he’s hit a few sac flies. I’m fairly certain they will come in time.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
agreed
his bb% is only 5%, but his minor-league bb% was over 10% at every level. he’ll take a walk.
His O-Swing rate has been consistently higher than average – though not terrible – ever since he made the majors. He won’t strike out on a ball in the dirt, but he does seem to swing at too many close balls in early counts. Maybe it’ll change when they start pitching around him (which is now).
I was promised lasagna.
The hell with it.
Every time you say something I don’t understand I’m just going to ask you what you mean look it up on Fangraphs.
O-Swing% (outside swing percentage): The percentage of pitches a batter swings at outside the strike zone.
/bookmarks Fangraphs
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
This is funny, because I remember its origins.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Wow. Nice.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
After all these years one thing's for certain...
…Cooky’s not a moron.
I feel foolish for misquoting him.
And I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for you meddling Marcellos ! (Nice archiving !)
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 11, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re still working with a pretty small sample size there, though. I really do think the walks will come.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
he's made contact on those pitches, though
if they throw real junk, the minor-league data say he’ll lay off
also
teams are still pitching too him all the time. IBBs will also increase if anyone has scouts watching the games.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
So that was unexpected
also LOL windows
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
har dee harr
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Buster Posey is head and shoulders above Mike Piazza.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Did someone call for a cock?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 10, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone call for a Cock-Block?

(First time I’ve put up an image. I sense something bad.)
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
Not the biggest Donna fan.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Jul 11, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
But . . .
. . .still one of the best. No one will ever (well, probably not ever) supplant the delightful Liz Sladen, but Katie Manning and Louise Jameson and Sarah Sutton and Jan Fielding and yes, Catherine Tate, were all—in various ways—pretty good. (I’m probably unintentionally slighting some others from poor memory.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Not really
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 10, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it started out as an arbitration thing, but then when everybody asked Sabean if it was an arbitration thing and he kept saying no, then he brought Posey up so that he wouldn’t look like a big fat liar.
Jokes on him, though. Those pants are totally on fire.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
absolutely
no reason at all.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Experience
Really, his callup to the major league level with that amount of pro experience was almost unprecedented, and his success completely is. The guy is a phenomenon, and I don’t think it’s criminal to question if it would play out that way.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
by achiappanza on Jul 10, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
/hides behind achiappanza
Yeah!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 10, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I always knew Buster was going to be good, but he’s already better than my wildest dreams. I’m glad Bochy’s finally figured it out too.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 10, 2010 7:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I liked him since one day before they drafted him.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I liked him the day before he was born
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL TEAM JACOB
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Keith Law says hi.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
IIRC, he was saying over and over again down the stretch last year that the Giants’ best hitter was Buster Posey.
It’s really not that amazing.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yeah, Jim Callis said that too
err, he said the 2nd best hitter
/sad panda
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Remember when Buster was slumping?
Neither do I.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
second-best
But yeah, Klaw loves Posey.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
LOL right pic
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I still believe
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
You may have to find a new sig.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
BUSTER POSEY: FREE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sig check
Took it a step further lol.
BUSTER POSEY: FREE AND HITTING OPPOSITE FIELD DINGERZ ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
by djp4cal on Jul 10, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If it means I never have to hear F.P. say “oppo taco” ever again then I’m gonna root for Buster to start pulling the ball now.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Seriously, what the fuck is up with him saying that shit? And I thought he couldn’t get any more annoying.
BUSTER POSEY: FREE AND HITTING OPPOSITE FIELD DINGERZ ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
Well spoken.
FP has that Dave Benz person saying it too. It might be a disease.
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Jul 11, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah
unless you mean I’ll have to take him out of timeout, which I will eventually. But I remember people saying I needed to change my avatar before my boy signed and I certainly didn’t do that. I ain’t the type to give up
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Oh I still believe, too.
But it’s still sad.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, no longer above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart!
I’m hoping Pablo gets a chance to clear his head over the All-Star Break and comes out mashing the fuck out of the ball.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wish . . .
. . . we knew what happened. He started off as expected, then crashed. I can’t help thinking they’re not dealing well with the vision thing, and Bochy is only aggravating things with his “just go out there and hack” advice.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
The vision thing is the only physical thing that makes sense.
Outside of that, I really do think he’s inside his own head. Normally, I don’t buy into psychological speculation, but it’s gotten to the point with Pablo’s body language and his clubhouse behavior (“Don’t be like me.”) that I really think it’s affecting him quite a bit.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
But then why isn’t he striking out more? Why isn’t he walking less? The drop in power I can’t explain, but most of this is just BABIP fluctuation. He certainly had some luck last year, and it’s possible he’s had some bad luck this year. Exactly how much is the question.
I was promised lasagna.
I mean
Last year Pablo had a 14.5% K rate, and a 8.2% BB rate.
This year Pablo has a 14.5% K rate, and a 8.2% BB rate.
You literally can’t get more consistent than that.
I was promised lasagna.
Yes, I noticed that.
I think the real question is whether he is one of those freaks who can actually maintain a very unusually (but not unheard-of) high level of BABIP and is just having a bad run, or whether it was just an illusion, long-running but eventually illusory.
Speaking strictly from casual eyeballing, my impression is that he is not driving the ball with the authority he had used in past to poke line drives and hard grounders all over the diamond: his balls in play mostly seem—at least relative to last year—sort of feeble, the result of contact but not good contact. Whether that’s vision or not is hard to say.
I think all we can do is wait and hope.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Exactly!
Though in Bochy’s case it takes an exceptionally large steamroller.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jul 10, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
BUSTER IS LORD
except when he called Sanchez “Sanchy” in the post game….
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Jul 10, 2010 7:42 PM PDT reply actions
Buster Posey.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jul 10, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
He hasn’t hit a HR at AT&T yet though!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He should never start at home.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
home/road platoon with Whiteside
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
stop it
Botchy might be reading.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You think he's literate?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Jul 10, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bennett Cerf Pop - Up Limericks, mebbe.
There once was a team by the Bay
Who had too many catchers to play.
They gave Money the boot
All the fans thought it moot
“We have Buster to carry the day!”
Whaddya want for nothin’?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Tough park for lefties, and righties who only hit opposite field home runs
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 10, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I foresee many triples in Buster’s future.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
you beat me by seconds
most exciting play in baseball! Except for the inside-the-park HR.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not
as exciting as 5 opposite field home runs on one road trip, eh?
I can remember when Huff had 0 HR on the road and I was like
“Hey, they haven’t even played the easy HR parks, yet!”
Good thing they called up Buster once they started those trips.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
ALL HAIL LORD BUSTER
They'll win tomorrow...
Tomorrow: They'll win tomorrow...
by howtheydidntscore on Jul 11, 2010 9:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
lol username
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It was that username that led directly to the infamous image posting event.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
A good win for the Giants. It actually distracted me from EVO streams.
Speaking of EVO, Cali update. Three Cali players left: Ricky O. (NorCal rep, and yes, he IS gay); Shizza/Spizza (Valle’s student); and Lamerboi (another NorCal rep, and is slogging through Losers’).
And to go back on topic, if I was a girl, I’d willingly have Buster Posey’s illegitimate children and not hold it against him. Unless it was rape. Then the courts would have to decide.
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
Extra Virgin Olives
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Elite Veteran Outfielder... oh wait that's just Aaron Rowand
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Jul 10, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
EVO Championship Series = massive fighting game tournament.
It’s pretty much the premier fighting game tournament in the world, save for a tourney or two in Japan.
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
Ray for the seventh, Romo for the eighth. Me likey.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 10, 2010 7:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I hope Posey proves me wrong re: his HR output
Maybe he does have consistent 25 HR power!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I’m willing to accept the Mauer career path from Posey.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Just slightly.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
You realize that Joe Mauer currently has, like, one of the highest career OPS+s for a catcher ever?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Posey's is better
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I hope the two of them elicit a lot of arguments over which one is better over the next ten years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Thank you Agent Ned!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
he traded him for CASEY FUCKING BLAKE?!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
About three months of him, too!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
holy shit
that is a terrible trade! How is that not covered more?! I guess nobody cares about cleveland. Thank you ned! WOW
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I mean like in other places
but even so I guess I had no idea.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Blake has been fairly decent for the Dodgers so far. Of course, the only part of Blake that they traded Santana for was 3 months in 2008, so.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It only looks like a good trade when Blake is playing against the Giants.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Jul 10, 2010 9:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
would they have had to sacrifice draft picks to sign him if they hadnt dealt for him?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
And just so we're clear
This isn’t bad luck for Colleti or anything. Santana was hitting .323/.431/.563 with more BB’s than K’s in A+ when he was traded.
I was promised lasagna.
LOL
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
BUT IT'S OK, SIRM WAS GOING TO LAST FOREVER
Or.. something?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Carlos Santana performance
This isn’t bad luck for Colleti or anything. Santana was hitting .323/.431/.563 with more BB’s than K’s in A+ when he was traded.
And all while designing a brand new PRS guitar.
Sorry, I just think that Santana deserves as many jokes about his name that Evan Longoria got. Because his namesake is so much cooler.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
by achiappanza on Jul 10, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which!
I just got a new PRS. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
Sah-WEET!
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
I think of that every time I hear his name
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I kind of like how they came up together, in different leagues, and were on fire from day one.
I was promised lasagna.
It’s awesome, pretty close to how it happened with Mauer and McCann back in 2004/5
McCann of course has never gotten the attention that Mauer has. I wonder if it’ll be the same here, but with the leagues reversed (since Santana is stuck in Cleveland.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Kind of weird, considering how popular the Braves are, and that the Twins are a small market team.
I was promised lasagna.
Mauer had the #1 pick aura, plus he’s won a bunch of batting titles which always leads to mainstream media attention.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THIS
Mauer’s team has been in contention a lot more too. He’s been to the playoffs twice and the Twins lost the 1 game playoff in 08.
McCann has been just once thus far.
Mauer is, also, a better player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The parallels continue.
Mauer and Posey are both dreamy.
Santana and McCann are not as dreamy.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But they sure sound dreamy.


I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Used to have sideburns too?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
/will be
They'll win tomorrow...
Tomorrow: They'll win tomorrow...
by howtheydidntscore on Jul 11, 2010 9:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Buster Posey
He is awesomer than anyone ever.
For the Giants.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
You’re getting a very weird .gif for this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
flagged
big John Turturro pic is big
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
his stache shall be trash
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 10, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
All it takes is a $1,000/day cocaine habit.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 10, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
white Chris Rock
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure about this Posey kid
He hit .118 with a .235 OPS last year. You have to expect regression any day now. If he actually is the real deal, I’m sure he would have been on the opening day roster like John Bowker
“They have big arms.”
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I love how careful he was not to offend anyone.
This is not a knock on Huff, but Posey sure is the anti-Huff
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
“I did my job.”
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
OK, Buster didn’t actually say that.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
He doesn't have to.
He’s doing his job.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Buster Posey – Cleanup Hitter. I like.
I am an American aquarium drinker.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Congrats on the big call-up to Fresno! Now, try not to have a 7.50 ERA after you make your next start.
but huff is the best hitter so he is third
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Jul 10, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Buster has the best ABs
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
Buster has SOMEBODY'S best abs.
They’ve been passed around a LOT today.

I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster 4th to take advantage of Huff’s OBP
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Works just as well the other way.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
lol sample size
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Buster walked all the time in the minors
no reason to think he won’t in the majors with time
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
yeah
because the way he’s playing sure isn’t helping the offense Nothing like Rent, right?!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Jul 10, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I searched "Posey" in baseball reference
Only to find the only other Posey listed was hall of-famer Cum Posey.
Might just be my new favorite name
Buster Cum Posey
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Jul 10, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Cumberland Posey is known more for his work as an executive and manager than as a player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you sure can take the fun out of things
by aaroncallagher on Jul 10, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just giving some historical information :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
sorry, i was just kiddin. Should’ve made it more obvious
by aaroncallagher on Jul 10, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YEAH CUMBERLAND POSEY’S WORK AS A MANAGER AND EXECUTIVE!
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I just thought I would put the fun back.
HOLY FUCK THE HOMESTEAD GRAYS WERE AWESOME
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
DAMN RIGHT THEY WERE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, don't do that.
This floor’s messy enough.

I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is jponry?
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Jul 11, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
“All are one and one are all.” – Alice Cooper, “Clones”
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 11, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Cum? Buster?
must…resist…
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
he can cum all he wants, as far as I’m concerned
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeesh.
/remembers what it was like to be 25…faintly
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey
has a .350 avg. I believe that equates to being the best hitter on the planet.
needs more platooning
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 10, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
but the other 65% of the time he reaches base through mind control
stay thirsty, my friends
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Seriously
There are like, 6 HOFers, and 5 other all-stars in this year’s Rookie class.
25 years from now someone’s gonna look at Baseball Reference and go “wait, you mean Buster Posey, Jason Heyward, Stephen Strasburg, Neftali Feliz, and Carlos Santana were all rookies in 2010?”. Then he’ll get back in his hovercar and go to a robot party on Mars.
I was promised lasagna.
Leake. Bumgarner. Austin Jackson.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Justin Smoak. Starlin Castro. Ike Davis.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Others in the All Star Bag
Pedro Alvarez. Mike Stanton. Brennan Boesch. Gaby Sanchez. Tyler Colvin. Jaime Garcia. Jhoulys Chacin.
Very deep year for rookies.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
More to come too
Michael Pineda, Dominic Brown, Brett Wallace, Chris Carter etc.
I doubt Alvarez even sniffs an all-star game. I don’t think he has the contact skills or defense to ever be an effective player.
A 27-28% strikeout rate in the minors is bad, but not, “NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE AN EFFECTIVE PLAYER” level. And he did walk at decent rates and he’s got pop.
He probably won’t be an amazing player, but he could have a few Mark Reynolds-ish years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dunn K’s at a rate of over 30%. Alvarez is good enough that I think he could have Reynolds ish or Dunn type of numbers one day. His power is legitimate. He’s also already starting to make adjustments. .951 OPS over his last 6 games and he’s walked 3 times.
Dunn is extremely patient, though. While the sample is small, Alvarez’s O-Swing rate is really really high. We’ll see.
I was promised lasagna.
He’s not even at 84 major league at bats.
And he put up a 12.5% BB rate in the minors.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hitters like him are tough to project
If he doesn’t walk in the minors, you know he’s in trouble. But if he does, you don’t know that he’s not – big guys with lots of power and poor contact rates can draw a lot of walks in the minors without being patient. We’ll see.
I was promised lasagna.
It’s true, but I feel fairly confident in saying that we can’t have any clue as to what the real Pedro Alvarez looks like after 80 or so PA.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Of course not. But comparing him to Adam freaking Dunn – one of the most patient hitters in the majors – doesn’t make sense to me.
As a 22 y-o, Alvarez had a 13.1% walk rate between A+ and AA. When Dunn was that age, he had an 18.9% (!) walk rate in the majors. They’re just not comparable.
Mark Reynolds is a much better comparison. Never actually that patient, just patient enough, with his power. And, of course, he’s not half the hitter Dunn is.
I was promised lasagna.
Well, I only compared him to Mark Reynolds.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dunn K’s at a rate of over 30%. Alvarez is good enough that I think he could have Reynolds ish or Dunn type of numbers one day. His power is legitimate. He’s also already starting to make adjustments. .951 OPS over his last 6 games and he’s walked 3 times.
by Hobbes2d on Jul 10, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunn is extremely patient, though. While the sample is small, Alvarez’s O-Swing rate is really really high. We’ll see.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jul 10, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was promised lasagna.
I’m not Hobbes2d
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/Pedro Feliz joke
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Uh, Mr. Man...
…we’re going to have to teach you the fine art of copying comments.
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He’s not even at 84 major league at bats.
And he put up a 12.5% BB rate in the minors.
by jponry on Jul 10, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hitters like him are tough to project.
If he doesn’t walk in the minors, you know he’s in trouble. But if he does, you don’t know that he’s not – big guys with lots of power and poor contact rates can draw a lot of walks in the minors without being patient. We’ll see.
by Cookyman on Jul 10, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
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I ate the lasagna.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
blast you caught me
he’s been my sockpuppet the whole time :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
mmm...sockpuppets...

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I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
What, you did reply to me
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WE ALL REPLIED TO YOU
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Rob Deer’s career average was .220 yet he walked 12.7% of the time and also K’d 36.3% of the time.
With a .223 ISO for his career.
If people have legitimate 30 HR power they’re going to be pitched to carefully, and they’ll end up on base, even if they hack at slop. Are they going to be like Bonds and walk 150 times? Hell no. But they’ll probably get at least 50 to 70.
84 PA’s of O-Swing are waaaaay more predictive than 100 innings of UZR or whatever. Just sayin.
I was promised lasagna.
Like, 30x more predictive.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
made me lol irl
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
jaime FTW!!!!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I wonder if the Hover car is solar powered...
nahh
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
I just found this:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/4/20/846904/minor-lines-4-20-09#14489552
From the first game I witnessed Buster’s opposite field power. I was very impressed. And he’s obviously worked on the throwing mechanics from behind the plate. :D
Now if we can just develop some other homegrown kids and fix the Panda.
Also I’d like to thank the Rays for taking Tim Beckham. LOL RAYS!
IIRC The Rays took Beckham
because Posey said he wanted a bunch of money (like 8 digits)
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Nah that's not it
The Rays were simply under the impression that they were drafting another Beckham, you know, the more famous one.

(You’re welcome, ladies of MCC.)
(You’re welcome too, guys of MCC for me not picking his underwear ad picture)
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 10, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
GM with hots for Posh
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jul 10, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Legend
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 10, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Like $12mil, iirc
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I think so
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
LOL KAZMIR!
Seems kinda mean to let him get shelled that badly…
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=300710111
5 IP 11 H 13 R 13 ER 3 BB 2 K 2 HR. Ouch.
Rajai Davis with a Grand Slam
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
wow i liked him
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
This is what I worry about everytime I look at Jonathan Sanchez

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
What is this chart supposed to be telling me?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jul 10, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That Jonathan's K/BB ratio has been getting worse over time
And that he might be coming to a Kazmir-like crash in effectiveness.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Sanchez’ arm still looks pretty live, though
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer numbers.
If you dig a bit deeper into the numbers, Jonathan more or less peaked in 2008.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=7507&position=P
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
He has the same FIP this year as he did in 08
With 50 points lower of BABIP.
Which is why his xFIP is 20 points higher this year than 08.
Jonathan is not getting better.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Whoops, I messed up
My point is this.
Jonathan has been getting lucky this year. Like, really lucky.
xFIP 40 points higher than his FIP, which suggests he’s getting lucky on home runs.
BABIP 40 points lower than career averages, which suggests he’s getting lucky on balls in play.
If you look at the parts of his game which aren’t really luck based (that is, xFIP), he’s never been better than 2008, and he’s actually been much worse in 2010 than in either of the previous two seasons.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
The differences are fairly negligible and he’s still been more than a serviceable 4th starter via FIP and xFIP this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
22 points of xFIP is not negligible
And that is the difference between his 08 and his 10. And that’s not even accounting for tonight’s stats, which I don’t think Fangraphs has added.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Again
a 4.36 xFIP from your 4th starter is really, really good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I agree completely
But if we were ever going to trade Jonathan, this would be the time to do it. He’s not on a good trajectory, but some of his ‘fantasy stats’ look pretty good this year.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I still don’t think the Giants can afford to trade Jonathan unless they make a concurrent trade for another SP.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I like Yeah Joey
And I don’t like Jonathan’s future. I agree that the alternative isn’t pretty, but I think that a rotation of
Tim – Zito – Cain – Bumgarner – Martinez
Is relatively comparable to
Tim – Zito – Cain – Sanchez – Wellemeyer
So it wouldn’t be that huge of a downgrade from just a month or two ago.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
if we’re trading Jonathan for Corey Hart, I’m fine with just sticking with
Tim – Zito – Cain – Sanchez – Bumgarner
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OK
But we should be getting the best return possible for Jonathan, ASAP. Because he is not getting better.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
You’re acting like his xFIP is 5.36 or something – he’s also not getting significantly worse. 22 points of xFIP is not a huge deal and his FIP is exactly the same as it was in 2008.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
22 points of xFIP is somewhat significant
And after tonight’s stats are factored in, his 2010 FIP will creep yet a few more points higher than 2008.
He’s been very lucky in 2010, and his trade value will never be higher than it is right now. If we are ever going to trade him, it should be now. If you don’t think we should ever trade him, that’s fair.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I don’t think I agree that his “trade value will never be higher than it is right now”, considering he’s coming off of a few pretty poor starts in a row.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He won't sustain a sub-4 ERA for the duration of the season
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
because of his xFIP?
you gonna turn on Matt Cain too? omg his xFIP is 4.75 let’s trade him immediately
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
his career xFIP is 4.52 he’s going to fall apart any day now
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Matt Cain's FIPs have improved over the past few years
His K/BB ratio has remained relatively stable.
Neither of those things are true of Jonathan.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
His FIPs have improved by all of 8 points. Wow!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Considering his FIP was very good to begin with
That is impressive.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
The point is that based on many of the statistics you’re using to make your argument about Sanchez (he’s outperforming his xFIP by a ton and his FIP by a considerable amount), we should trade Cain because he’s at the peak of his value and he’s only going to get worse.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He never has! And his BABIP is 30 points below career numbers. That alone will drive up the ERA considerably.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Add on to that
The fact that his K/BB ratio is on the decline for the 4th straight year (it peaked in 07), and I’m fairly confident.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
ZIPS projects him to put up a 4.26 ERA for the rest of the year in 76 IP (basically his xFIP).
If he does that, he’ll end the year with a 3.63 ERA
This is before today, obviously, but I doubt that will make a huge difference.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Fair points
Perhaps he will finish the season with below a 4.
But his ERA will certainly be higher than it is now (3.47) at the end of the season.
He’s pitching over his head this year.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
And he will still be a very useful pitcher and one of the best fourth starters in the majors regardless.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No arguments here.
As I stated above, however, there is almost no evidence that Jonathan is IMPROVING, which is what (I think) this whole argument is about.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Your whole argument is that we have to trade Jonathan NOW because his value is at its peak. I feel as though if you think that, it’s because you think he’s likely to implode soon. I really don’t agree with that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Far from it!
Jonathan will not implode. He will pitch worse and worse every year, in increments.
The thing about guys who aren’t improving is, the sooner you trade them the better.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
And I continue to not see how he’s really any worse than he was in 2008.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
K/BB and FIP
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
His FIP is pretty much exactly the same as it was in 2008.
His K/BB after today actually went UP to 1.96. It’s worse than the 2.09 he put up in 2008 but it’s not a lot worse.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
there’s no evidence that he’s getting worse either. Same ol’ pretty good but maddening Jonathan Sanchez.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
See the graph at the top of this subthread
K/BB on a steady decline. FIP peaked two years ago.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
HIS FIP BEFORE TODAY WAS .01 HIGHER THAN IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
With the benefit of a lower HR/FB%
Comparing apples to apples, xFIP to xFIP, he was 22 points better in 08. That accounts for the AT&T chicanery, since he pitched there in 08 as well.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
dude
His ERA in ’08 was 5.01.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
by calpolynate on Jul 10, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
xFIP is iffy..
You’d expect pitchers in ATT to always post lower FIP’s than xFIP’s since it’s harder to hit home runs there.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
BTW..
I’m not arguing he hasn’t been lucky, it’s just that he’s not bad.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Not arguing that he's been bad
Just arguing that he’s not getting better, and he’s probably getting a bit worse.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
just thought I would add this,
but almost every Giants pitcher outperforms their xFIP. Matt Cain does it like clockwork.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
that means our defense is good
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
mostly it’s because of the HR/FB rate of AT&T. xFIP is based on the theory that a pitcher has no control over his HR/FB rate and gives you what his ERA would look like with a normal HR/FB rate.
Of course for those pitchers who get to play in HR suppressing stadiums, they will consistently post better ERA’s than xFIPs.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
but if you just look at ERA vs FIP, both Zito and Cain constantly outperform those as well.
This is the reason why our pitchers ERA often consistently out performs their FIP. Because defense does make a difference. It’s not so much “oh he is so lucky, he always has a better ERA than his FIP.” It is because his defense works for him. Barry Zito’s ERA out performs his FIP. Not shockingly, the Giants ranks #2 in UZR/150 in MLB, and his home ball park reduces the # of home runs.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
FIP doesn't use BABIP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Uh, that’s not what a decline looks like. What it tells you is that he’s been exactly the same pitcher for three years now.
I was promised lasagna.
Yeah
during the years when Kazmir was crashing, Sanchez was…not crashing
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I mean, he’s also not improving like you’d expect him to, so I wouldn’t count on him ever truly reaching his potential. And he could lose his stuff at some point, and it could be ugly. But he’s pretty good right now, and should stay that way at least for the rest of his arbitration years with us.
I was promised lasagna.
Yeah. I’d like him to improve, but I don’t have a huge problem with him just not declining.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
'just not declining' is impressive
almost all pitchers get worse as they age
I surrender in this subthread
I need sleep if I’m going to make it to the game tomorrow.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Much obliged
Point: Madison Bumgarner is good, and getting better!
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I want to congratulate everyone on a really substantive, yet heated debate that never veered into insults.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
/thumbs up
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
It took Bruce Bochy four MLB seasons (142 games) to reach six home runs.. Posey has hit six in 10 games.. Jealousy anyone?
he was also upstaged by Benito Santiago, wasnt he?
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 10, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You spelled "MVP" wrong
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Oh snap.
You’re right.

6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 10, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The announcers are gossiping about Buster’s All Star Break plans.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
both
6/30/10- The Beginning of a New Era
by Bballpitcher2 on Jul 10, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
One of these things is not like the other
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
LOL
Check out the MiLB.com boxscore for Scottsdale – they’ve got Chuckie Jones listed as the starting catcher and Mike Murray as the starting CF. Young Charles would be a big target squatting behind the plate.
AZL Giants vs. Cubs boxscore
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Austin Fleet
He’s gone 4 innings with no runs allowed and 5 Ks. He now has 24 Ks in 16 2/3 innings pitched.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Well, first off, the 16th round is not considered “late” – that would place Fleet squarely in the mid-round. Secondly, It’s not his fault the braintrust stuck him in the AZL. He certainly pitched well enough for Coastal Carolina to deserve at least a spot on the S-K roster. Especially when you consider they’ve got old roster-fillers like 23 year old Taylor Rogers and 24 year old Shane Kaufman starting games there.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
16th isn't late?
I mean, it’s not NDFA, but it’s pretty late to nab even an interesting arm in the post-draft-and-follow world.
How many good major leaguers has the 16th round produced over the past 10 years?
I was promised lasagna.
What does that have to do with my point? No evaluator refers to the 16th round as “late” – you’ve got 50 rounds in the draft.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
google 'baseball late-round draft picks'
The first (1st) hit starts ‘em at the 10th. Then there are bunch of football and fantasy baseball hits. Then there’s a ‘mid-to-late’ hit. The second (2nd) applicable hit starts at the 14th.
I could keep going, but why? ‘Late-round’ clearly starts somewhere north of 16.
If the 16th round in a 50-round draft were designated as late, then by correlation, anything after the mddle of the 3rd round in the NFL draft would have to be labeled as “late.”
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I feel like anything past the 10th-12th round is kind of late.
Isn’t that pretty much when most teams are just trying to find filler and take fliers?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Let’s take a gander at just the current SF roster. We have:
J. Sanchez …. 27th rd.
S. Romo …. 28th rd.
T. Ishikawa …. 21st rd.
So, 12% of the current roster of 1 team is made up of guys that were drafted in the 16th rd. or later (and Dirty and Romo are not just roster filler). Now let’s extrapolate that over 30 major league teams, that would come out to 90 players in one year alone. Now, I’ll take of 50% of that just to be on the safe side – and I still come up with 45 guys. And that’s not even including the guys that were non-drafted free agents or un-known international FAs who signed for pennies.
So, the answer to your question is that the number of players drafted in the mid- to late-rounds is not insignificant. Especially when you consider how few players drafted in the first 3 rounds rarely even make it to the majors, much less make a significant contribution.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Well Ishi is kinda different
since he got a 7 figure bonus-I think the Giants just took a flier on him in the 21st round and paid him
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
The thrust of the question was that nobody picked in the 16th round, or later, needs to be followed because they don’t ever make it to the majors. I think I put the lie to that conceit.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
just 'cause I was curious
16th Round Major Leaguers since 2000
Brian Schlitter (who)
Tobi Stoner (who)
Andrew Bailey (he’s good)
David Hernandez (pretty good prospect, not great in the majors so far)
Mark Reynolds (he’s good)
Matt Tolbert (135 games in the majors, but pretty mediocre)
Mitch Stetter (apparently has pitched 116 games with a 3.99 ERA – who knew?)
Aaron Laffey (okay pitcher)
Jordan Tata (who)
Chris Dickerson (he isn’t bad)
Dana Eveland (lol fat)
Chris Young (the diamondbacks one)
Mel Stocker (who)
Joe Hietpas (mega-who)
you get like 2-3 major leaguers a year in the 16th round, it looks like.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
this is actually since 2001
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wow I need to get out more
The only person I haven’t heard of on that list is Schlitter.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
He loves to squat behind the plate!
LOL
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Buster has reached base at least once in every game since June 30th.
Hitting .514 in July with 6 HR 13 RBI and with 4 BB to 3 K.
"The giants are going to regret trading molina, they must be calling it quits for the season"
LAWL ESPN
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
They seriously said that??
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
From July 1
JeffFletcherAOL Reality check: Buster Posey is in a 7-for-48 (.146) slump, and that was without thinking about catching every day. Just sayin. #sfgiants
FREE BUSTER POSEY
man
someone should retweet that at him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This
I 100% agree, someone do the honors.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Or you could tweet
Reality check: Buster Posey is hitting .514 in July with 6 HR and 13 RBI and that’s WITH having to think about catching every day.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jul 10, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
(Just sayin)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Darn.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Just sayin’.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I will
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
<3
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Done!
I had to edit a bit as it was >140
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
link pls
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
He hasn't answered yet and I doubt he will
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I was talking about your twitter so I could see the message, hopefully that idiot responds to you and attempts to urban you.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL
catcher “having to catch every day”
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions
done and done
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Wow Lee still had a CG with the 6ER
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
The orioles were hacking all night and he got a bit to much plate all game. He gave up 9 hits, 6 runs, 0 BB’s, and 3 dingerz. He got acquainted with that band box today, but I’m sure he’ll still be great.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
All in 95 pitches
Amazing. And I’m glad Giants won’t see him until some lame event in the fall, maybe.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 10, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
holy shit
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
This
He was extremely efficient and worked quickly like usual, just got some bad breaks on pitches he gave to much plate. He went for strictly contact against the orioles thinking they are horrible, but he ended up getting burned. He’s gonna be great for the rangers, hopefully they knock the yankee’s out of the playoffs in the first round.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I love Jon Miller
Texting in his player of the game: Buster Posey.
Buster Posey, better than you.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
I love Buster
and this Team. Anyone have a picture of Barry Zito so I can show my sister in law how dreamy he is? Also a Buster picture.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 8:07 PM PDT reply actions
images.google.com
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
is that even photoshopped?
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 10, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It worked though.
Thanks. Also a dumb question, what is the connection between Zito and the unicorn?
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Zito’s radio show with Urban is called “The Unicorn Hour.”
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 11, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
skinny buzz lightyear
is skinny
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Great lash...Maybelline?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 11, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Jose Canceco lost in a fight to a 60 year old guy
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 8:11 PM PDT reply actions
More then likely, But I dont like Canseco so I found it funny. He is holding on just trying to be famous.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YEAH!
just sayin’…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
Thank god for tyLOL clippard.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Blown save extraordinaire!
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
He is the new joba chamberlain in my opinion, all the national media seem to think he’s a great reliever and a “future franchise closer”. That shit cracks me up considering that was his 7th blown save, LOL 6 LOSSES.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Type in . . .
Great Awk
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 10, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Former Yankee, must be it
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
its all WINZ
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
LOL Fangraphs Fantasy Baseball
Week 13 Trade Possibilities
(June 30, 2010)
SELL
Buster Posey – Posey is one of the top prospects in the game but in 2010 his name value far exceeds his production. So far he has shown a tendency to chase pitches out of the zone (31.4 O-Swing%) along with having significant trouble versus fastballs (-3.59 wFB/C). Posey has not hit for much power and has a nice AVG thanks to a .310 BABIP. That is at the upper limit of normal levels but catchers as a group tend to have lower BABIPs than other players. Look for Posey’s AVG to fall without having a lot of power to make up for the drop.
(emphasis added)
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
LOL FAN GRAPHS
Keep sucking matt wieters, he’s the next joe mauer.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I ain't researchin' it.
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
that's a pile o crap
but never underestimate the value of leagues (OOTP for me, but same principle for you Pokemonzz) where folks completely overvalue names. Or that trade Buster Posey for Mat Latos D:
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions
extrabaggs
Right now, the No.1 trending Twitter topic in San Francisco is Buster Posey. Probably discussing whether to make him mayor
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 10, 2010 8:30 PM PDT reply actions
Where’d he grow up? Probably would be an improvement.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
LOL knbr callers
Calling in demanding the giants trade sanchez for hart ASAP, god people are stupid.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I feel like if something gets suggested or reported in the dailies
the KNBR crowd jumps on the bandwagon like crazy
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Impetuous trades is the opiate of the masses.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Buster Posey is my hero
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I hope you are enjoying the prophesies of your local Nats fan.
I posted this in yesterday’s postgame thread as a balm to your wounds after being Strasburged
Craig Stammen will wreck himself.
He’s been awful, awful awful and has applied the Wil Nieves "stick pins into my Jesus Flores voodoo doll" to the "stick pins into my John Lannan voodoo" doll. The only reason that he’s up here is that John Lannan fell off of a cliff. He believes only in the contact side of pitch to contact, has minimal plus pitches, and will likely get shelled leaving an old fashioned Livo rubber match as the battle for positive mojo for both sides heading into the all-star break.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 10, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
We were impressed by your rookie; what did you think of ours?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Buster Posey looks like a total and complete stud his first run through the league. I don’t know how he rates compared to Heyward (who has went down lately) or Carlos Santana or Boesch (sp?) on the Tigers. But today, he was an absolute and total beast. He singlehandedly willed his team to win. For Giants fans who have witnessed so many games where a sucky start was a death sentence, it must have been exhilarating to see this kid come from nowhere and show the capacity to carry his team on his back to some wins that will keep the team in contention long enough to justify additional moves to gain ground in the competitive NL West.
I was on record elsewhere saying that the Molina trade was great for the Giants (largely based on what I learned visting here last time we played the Giants). Posey’s performance as a catcher tonight show why he’s ready to play everyday. Lost in the sauce of the offensive performance was the great plays to help gun down the Nats in the crucial 6th inning.
I hope he keeps this up and shows he can do this against the Braves, Phillies, Mets, Marlins, Cardinals, Padres, Rockies, and Dodgers as well. I’d imagine he’d be allowed to rest against the DBacks because they suck so bad.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Tyler clippard is pretty bad, he seems to be the master of coming in with runners on and opening the flood gates.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
We don’t know what Clippard is. Until 10 days ago, he was the best reliever in the Nats pen. He was probably overused before. He trails only Moylan and Feliciano in appearances and they are a ROOGY and a LOOGY respectively who don’t go as long per outing and don’t have godawfully violent deliveries.
When you’re the Nationals, you don’t get bold and bring Drew Storen up on day one to immediately distribute bullpen innings instantly. You’re conservative and you choose to let Brian Bruney demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s not worthy of a major league roster spot anywhere in the league. So when you only have Capps and Clippard as reliable bullpen options, you run Clippard into the ground during the first 3rd of the year before Storen comes up and proves his dependability.
We can’t say Clippard is pretty bad until we see how he responds to rest during the all-star break. Even then, it’s hard to say whether he’s bad because he’s bad or bad because he was put into many high leverage situations early in the year. When you can’t blow people out and you don’t posssess a starter capable of going 8 innings, you’re bullpen tends to fade as the season goes along. Only time will tell whether Joel Peralta and Doug Slaten are enough bullpen reinforcements to serve as viable backup plans if Clippard falls off.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Can I just say
I don’t know very much about the in and outs of your bullpen, but as a whole, they have the best warm-up music of any relief corps in the league.
I love belting out HERE I GO AGAINNNNN ON MY OWWWWWWN! and Movin’ to the country! Gonna eat a lot of peaches!
Also, I’m a huuuuuuuuuuuge fucking fan of the fact that you start every game with THUNDERSTRUCK!
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Well, you've been spared the worst warmup music so far.
Hopefully, that will change tomorrow.
Yes, Giants fans, Matt Capps, badass all-star that he is comes into The Final Countdown. He was trying to get rid of it but then he struggled during early June and went back to it. The Final Countdown is here to stay.
But Strasburg’s “Seven Nation Army” is badass and Clippard’s “Peaches” is badass. [Started as a joke in the minors, probably an off color one since he won’t say what it is. Clippard’s a goofy dude and one of my favorite Nats. Certainly the first one I’d get a jersey of if I had the funds. Off the beaten path, and he’s been solid before the last ten days.]
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Wasn't even being sarcastic
I was at the Stras game too, and loved the White Stripes. Too bad the Giants offense is barely a 1 nation army, and we could not hold him back.
And I un-ironically love ‘The Final Countdown’. I am a huge sucker for schlock, and Nats park always delivers.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Giants just had bad luck. With the Royals start, they didn’t hit the ball as hard but all the dinkers fell and he took a loss. With the Mets, he didn’t have the command. With the Braves the defense let him down. With the Giants, you guys hit the ball harder against him for one inning than he’d been hit all year. That just made him mad enough to never listen to Wil Nieves again for help calling pitches and start throwing inside to anybody who ticked him off and channel his inner Nolan Ryan.
It’s all about that slurve. If he’s locating it, he’ll make a lot of people look like Renteriaed looked last night.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 10, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s easy to forget how nice it is to have such a good rotation to keep the bullpen fresh.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Our only hope for a complete game or 8 inning start is Livan Hernandez or an out of body experience by Craig Stammen or JD Martin.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
If only Bruce Bochy was managing Stras...
He would have 3 CGs by now, 150 pitches each.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Rizzo runs the ship.
“You will pitch Strasburg as I say, not as Cubs Riggles says, or NO SOUP FOR YOU!”
Rizzo runs herd pretty well. Will improve prospect development and patience. Will improve scouting. Roster management, payroll management, and trade savvy? To be determined.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 10, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a fine baseball name...
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 10, 2010 8:47 PM PDT reply actions
Did the Jays sign him?
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Or . . .
Johnny Dickshot
really . . . giants in the 30’s
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 10, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, Santiago Casilla defnitely earned that win.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
LOL VULTURE
Bautista has a few of those.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Travis Wood threw 109 pitches.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
And was perfect through 8, it’s unfortunate he had to go into the ninth in a scoreless game knowing he’d get a perfect game ND at best LOL.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
in fulfillment of the scriptures
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So it is written in the scrolls of Gemenon.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This Jerry Rice special
Greatly hurt by being too cheap/poor to spring for super bowl clips.
Hey guys, lets show pictures of newspaper headlines and photos like all of this happened in 1940.
Well
I’ve certainly seen the SB stuff 10 million times already…Obviously it should be included but whatev
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's on timeout due to his poor first half.
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I liked
how the players had to go into as much deals as possible for visualization without visuals
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 10, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Just got back from the game
Before the Giants took the lead = unending depression.
Aaron Rowand = omg
Buster Posey = Awkwardly attempting to hide my erection from the people sitting next to me.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Also
Chris Ray = 7 kinds of love for him. The man who vanquished the Molina and a pretty good reliever who throws strikes once in a while.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
I enjoyed the last 3 innings being 123 innings by the ’pen, it was quick and efficient Casilla, ray, romo, and affeldt combined to throw 35 pitches which is excellent because it means they will be fresh for tomorrow.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The game sounded like a giants home game playing against the pirates. I heard a good amount of cheering when the giants were doing good things today, sounded like a mostly empty house with a lot of giants fans.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
no shame
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 10, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So, I thought all those stolen bases were on the pitchers?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jul 10, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions
hankschulman
This’ll make some of your heads explode, but Posey took advice from Rowand on facing Clippard before hitting his go-ahead single.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
“Just go up there and try and hit a home run!”
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
“If he throws you a low and outside slider, swing at it!”
by Into the Void on Jul 10, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
1. cut a hole in the box
2. put your foot in the box
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Um, OK.
Just like all hitters do when facing an unfamiliar pitcher— ask for advice, and who better than one who just went yard off him.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So he listened to Rowand, then did the opposite of what he said?
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Exactly. Didn’t try to pull every pitch, and the end result was an opposite field hit.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
“First, your stance against this guy is all wrong. You need to lean back more. Second….”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, fun things at nats stadium!
I crossed paths with Mike Rizzo on the staircase walking down from my upper deck seats (I had access to the employee staircase for a boring reason).
I also literally bumped in to homeland security secretary Janet Napolitano. Like, I ran into her, said “oh, sorry!”, and then realized who she was. I am surprised that I was not shot by secret service.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
only partially related to this topic
This is why I will continue to support Obama no matter what:

Also, way to be a sell out, Malia.
by apistat on Jul 10, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They were doing the fucking wave
In the Clippard inning!
I could not fucking believe it. It was like Emperor Nero shit. The Nats fans waved while their bullpen burned.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
For some reason I’m even more disappointed that the people in the seats behind home plate joined in as well. You have money and you can be seen on TV, show some self respect.
well, we have the corporate gladhanders, and tourists; they have that plus politicians
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
[This Nats fan hangs head in shame]
This is horrific. I am embarassed and ashamed of my fan base. I wish there was a forum by which he could have some kind of fan seminar before you were allowed to purchase a quality ticket and informed of what’s appropriate behavior. The wave stuff totally sucks, and I put up a FanShot at Federal Baseball headlined by that photo you’ve got up there the evening of that start (which I was at).
I was in the grandstands last night. After Strasburg left, they were trying to do the wave. The 300 sections underneath the press box can often withstand the uninformed masses. It’s even worse when the goofy PAID BY THE TEAM idiots in the Natpack try to start it. I wasn’t at the game tonight so I don’t know who started it, but trying to do the wave while your psychologically fragile reliever is on the hill trying to hold a narrow lead ain’t a great idea.
Nats fans remember that your 0-2 in games when you do the wave while Clippard is on the mound. (Clippard was on the mound for the wave tonight and the wave at the Obama game).
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
don't beat yourself up too much
some idiot starts it most games at Mays Field (even if it’s one drunk that stands up and sits down again when ignored). Some idiot started it at Yankee Stadium when I was there last month.
Who even does it anymore on purpose? Isn’t it like an 50’s thing? I don’t think I’ve ever actually been in a stadium that seriously did one.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
the guy to the far right is representing Wu Tang
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 10, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
What about Wu-Tang Financial?
BUSTER POSEY: FREE AND HITTING OPPOSITE FIELD DINGERZ ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
You need to diversify yo’ bonds, nigga!
by Into the Void on Jul 10, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
hahah
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 10, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Post game notes from Baggs:
http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_15487763?source=rss
Favorite quote:
On the trade front, Sabean reiterated that he prefers a left-handed hitter and two-way contributor who won’t be a free agent after this season. He declined to talk about specific names or teams, but Royals outfielder David DeJesus is a player the front office is known to covet.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
This can't be true
wouldn’t this be wise…thus putting sabean on a roll?! Of course, he’d probably overpay
by Artimus Clyde on Jul 10, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hope we get DDJ
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Me too
I’m a person who was/is actually on board with the Corey Hart idea, but I’d much much much rather have DDJ.
One of the nice things about DDJ is that he would enable us to have a legitimate leadoff hitter, even on the days Torres is off.
My Son. Dude hits inside the parkers and takes walks.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I am a Bochy hater and a Sabean apologist.
Yep
I really have to credit Evan (I think it was him) for showing me how good DDJ is by comparing his stats to Carl Crawford’s. Plus after seeing him (DeJesus) live-hit Felix Hernandez well-tthat really helped. Oh, and the dude has great speed-if we can teach him how to utilize his speed to steal bases that will be great.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I don't think Hart is the worst idea in the history of the world
I just don’t want to give up Sanchy for him. Or really anyone that the Brewers would probably want.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions
DDJ over Hart, in a heartbeat
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
In a Hartbeat!
Also I remember at the beginning of the year there was some talk of the Brewers and Mets doing a Hart for John Maine trade…I can’t prove it but somehow I feel Omar Minaya screwed that up
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Cookyman said last year (or maybe the year before)
Minaya offered Jon Niese for Molina. I like Main and all, but that would’ve been a crazy good deal.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah, I remember hearing that
That would’ve been a sweet deal
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
subject
buster posey’s 2 run shot in the 9th was fine and the fact that it was caught by a giants fan is cool and all but check out that kid’s haircut

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
It also looks like he’s already suffered the customary beating that comes along with the decision to rock a mullet.
by apistat on Jul 10, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hawt chick in red tank top
Too bad I don’t have the guts to ask her out.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Jul 10, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Clip of Ichiro running into a fan
her reaction is pretty much what I’d do if i touched Buster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvTStABPHFQ
"Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangy-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
by operation carrot on Jul 10, 2010 9:27 PM PDT reply actions
Just got back from a family reunion thing
I was checking the score throughout the game – the Giants scored 10 runs? Against a team that is not the Brewers? Craziness.
Also, I heard it was a Posey-rific game. So I’m watching it on OnDemand. Right now the Nationals have scored their first run with no outs and runners on second and third. I’m assuming things get better.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
OT:
I now understand the hate for Comic Sans.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 10, 2010 9:43 PM PDT reply actions
LOL CTRL+ALT+DEL
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions
anyone listening to Marty Lurie?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
Yup he’s a great host, can’t say the same about his callers.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
yeah, really
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised at how caller-tolerant he is
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I guess being a lawyer and dealing with retards for the last 30 years has made him extremely docile.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
why not the opposite—disdainful
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
someone proposed trading for Nigel Morgan
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thin tim who’s producing the show called marty an idiot and said michael bourn is worse than juan pierre and wouldn’t help out the giants LOL MORON.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants definitely need a good defense; that’s why I like to see Ishi out there
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I got 2 tickets
To the All Star Fan Fest in Anaheim and am going tomorrow. Anyone in the area want tickets?
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions
confusing message is confusing
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I have two extra tickets to this event that I want to give to somebody. If you will be in Anaheim I can give them to you so you may attend without spending $30 bucks
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, i see, two extras. Thanks for the offer, but 400 miles is a bit far…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That is the pain for me. I get no radio (I have MLB at bat ’10 on my iphone, ipod, or android phone) or tv feed (except when playing the Dodgers.)
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that you really must get out of there…the bay area beckons ye giants fan of the south
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the bay area
but my work is down here and my wife doesn’t like it up there. I know I missed on that question prior marriage.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s what I remember about LA, it’s all about the work
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I live in Huntington Beach now but am looking to relocate to Arizona maybe. Going from beach to desert. Go figure.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
lol sand
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish you woulda told me earlier today, I woulda drove down!
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
I was thinking about going to the futures game
but decided not to
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Me too. $75….No thanks
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I just drove by it about an hour ago. A lot of tents in the parking lot. Looks like your best bet is to enter the parking lot from State College Blvd.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t say that I’m too keen on the AS game anymore, but this is a great time of year for baseball, the all-star break, lot’s of transitioning going on
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's, fanGirlies--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I work down the street and there going to let me park there and walk it.
So free parking and exercise. Its win-win.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Joba chamberlain is awful
comes into the 8th with a 1 run lead and after much fail ends up giving up a granny to jose lopez LOL OVER RATED.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
OMG Joba Rules gotta protect this him future hall of famer
by Into the Void on Jul 10, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If he is on any other team ESPN makes fun of him
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
lol @ keith law predicting he’d be one of the top 5 pitchers in the MLB this year.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Dave Cameron
Simply put, you stick a guy like Chamberlain in the NL, and he’d look like Cy Young. Sorry, NL fans, but your pitchers aren’t as good as you think.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-recap/
Thats only why we have Timmy, Josh Johnson, Jimenez, And Strasburg. Those guys suck.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave Cameron is such a douche. He gave up a Grand Slam to the worst offensive team in baseball. I count them as that because they have a DH. Fuck him acting like he knows everything. Just likes to play to the ESPN brass and never say anything bad about the Yanks. What a puss.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The AL is on the "better league" because they have 2 less teams
and both the Yankees and the Red Sox spend money in the AL.
If you knock off the NL’s two worst teams, the NL is no worse than the AL. This whole “the better league” is a media creation.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You can't just knock off the 2 worst teams and say they'r even tho.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
you can’t compare 16 team leagues and 14 team leagues.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yeah I don't get why that makes a difference..
You can’t just assume that if you gave the AL 2 more teams to equal the NL, that they’d be the worst and all of a sudden the AL = NL (at first, if they were expansion teams they would be, but overtime they wouldn’t)
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
It has nothing to do with the media. MGL is not “the media”. Seriously, what’s this bizarre NL pride that people have that prevents them from admitting something that’s been proven over and over again? It’s not like you need some SABR study to prove this (though they exist, too) – this is the 6th year in a row that the AL is winning Interleague by a pretty large margin. What possible reason is there to think that the AL isn’t better?
I was promised lasagna.
This year was actually close..
Like 15 games. Most years it had been like 30, 40+
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I think (at least for me) it’s more people saying “[insert mediocre pitcher here] would be better then all your players combined if he was in your league.” It’s partly whiney, like they’re saying it’s so unfair they play in a harder league, and it’s partly saying all of our players are insignificant when compared to “the better league.”
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Jul 11, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think interleague is a good indicator… it really just means that the difference between AL and NL pitchers at the plate is smaller than the difference between the DH and the 10th man. I guess you could say that the DH gives the AL an advantage and that’s why they’re better, but I’m unwilling to do that because I consider the DH an abomination.
I prefer to say the AL might be better right now, but that it’s a cyclical thing and it will change in time.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 11, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not the difference between the DH and the 10th man – the vast majority of DH’s can, and do, play the field. It’s not like David Ortiz wouldn’t have had a job if the DH hadn’t been invented.
I was promised lasagna.
But the vast majority of 10th men can’t hit particularly well. I think Johnny is saying that the AL has the advantage of having all the same position players, plus an extra cleanup hitter instead of a career backup. That’s a legitimate difference.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course, as you allude to below, that hardly accounts for the difference in overall hitting between the leagues.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Cleanup was clearly an exaggeration, but the quality of hitter you’ll find in a DH is better than that you’ll get in a 10th man.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why the vast majority of DH’s would still be playing even there weren’t such a thing as a DH.
The only guy who’s actually earning a job here is the 9th man on the AL team roster – generally that’s the guy would lose his job if there weren’t a DH. There isn’t a very big difference between him and the 10th man on the NL team.
I was promised lasagna.
I don’t know about vast, and if they did play they would generally be replacing the first baseman or left fielder rather than the 9th man.
I still think the difference between the NL tenth man and whoever it is that wouldn’t be playing is greater than the difference between pitchers. And that the pendulum will eventually swing back. And that the DH is an abomination.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 12, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, NL hitters have hit worse over the past few against AL pitching than against NL pitching. The DH can’t explain that.
I was promised lasagna.
An interesting point . . .
. . . someone who compiled one of those “best/worst GM” lists made: on his list (and I’d venture that most other lists would be at least roughly similar) 4 of the top 5 GMs were AL while 4 of the 5 worst were NL. That could account, in a strong way, for much (or all) of the current differential.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
The average AL team has a slightly higher payroll too, by something like $10M, if I remember correctly.
I was promised lasagna.
Probably . . .
. . . the Yankees and Red Sox alone are enough to skew the league total.
Slightly OT, I’ve always felt that the real leverage the Yanks have with their money is not so much that they can afford the best—many teams can afford good players, and others can use baseball skills—so much as it is the huge margin for error it provides. “X is getting 17 mill a year and he ain’t hittin’? Throw him out and get another one. Eat ‘em up—they’ll make more.”
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/13162308/-baseball-payrolls-list
I got an average of $94M for the AL, and $85M for the NL. If we remove the top team in each league, we get $86M for the AL, and $81M for the NL. Not huge, but probably significant.
I was promised lasagna.
junior circuit--who knew?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
how bout Cliff Lee….Kazmir…
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I turned on the post game here
and ended up ROFLMAO. It was epic.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The angels swung and missed HUGE with the kazmir deal, not as bad as the white sox with peavy but close.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Fans here were saying how they were the best cause they got him and now are pissed. I love when that happens
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
what’d they give up for him?
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't remeber
But I know it was a prospect and basically took over his contract from them.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, his arm is trashed
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They gave up
Alexander Torres, Matthew Sweeney, and a PTBNL. The Rays then called up Wade Davis. Money saved was the main deal there.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
they dumped him? i did not know that
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sean Rodriguez
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, I was referring to what LAA game up for Kazmir
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LAA gave up Sean Rodriguez for Kazmir.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
My bad, didn’t see you were the same person who posted the above.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
I know and it sucks. He will be back. As long as the Giants medical staff doesn’t get their hands on him. Oh wait…..
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I made this sig at the start of last year.. It’s really lookin unlikely he starts 2011 with the squad :(
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Posey benifited from some extra time so i wont kill him. Plus we all know Decker knows what he is doing so I have faith he will keep improving him.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Kazmir for Victor Zambrano
Good deal in hindsight?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
He got an extremely friendly called strike 3 against posada on a 3-2 count with runners on 1st and 3rd with one out in the 9th. That was awesome to see the mariners got a bullshit homer call by the umpire, it was a sinker that was way high and the umpire just rung him up LOL. Fuck the yankee’s, nothing better than seeing them lose because of LOL CHAMBERLAIN.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
hey! back off. his mom is my meth dealer
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Susan waltman screamed when jose lopez made contact, it sounded like a pig going crazy.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh. Her.
ROGER CLEMENS IS IN GEORGE STEINBRENNER’S BOX!!!!
BUSTER POSEY: FREE AND HITTING OPPOSITE FIELD DINGERZ ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
GOODNESS GRACIOUS THIS IS AMAZING
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I might have to do a new Posey video.
That last one is so outdated and it hasn’t even been a month yet.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Should do it about once a week I say
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Marty Lurie and thin Tim make a really good radio team
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
if Rownad got hot, that would be a good thing
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by greatgiantfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. He’s going to be a Giant for a looong time
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jul 10, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Posey matchup notes on Yahoo fantasy
Matchup Rating 5 stars (@Was)
Slugging .895 in 19 ABs against other soft throwing righties since last year.
I hope that
Rowand was not a fluke today and keeps this up. We need a bat that can produce bad right now with Panda in a funk. We need to get some protection for Posey and Huff. If Rowand is that guy I’m ok with that.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions
HE'S A MONSTER
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yo quiero leche de madre QQ
Even though I’m so ooold! qq
Buster Mother Fucking Posey
is more bad ass than a bad ass mother fucker
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HATED 3: LA Dodgers, NE Patriots, MIAMI DOLPHINS
BIG 3 Players: Dwyane Wade, Brian Wilson, and Shaun Ellis
by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Jul 10, 2010 10:42 PM PDT reply actions
Brian sabean looks like a genius for trading molina and gettng value in return. Unfortunately sabean really didn’t do anything but have texas come to him and actively pursue molina. I guess sabean did a good job deeking the rangers and making them think molina was extremely valuable to the club. I think chris ray has been a fantastic addition and the other prospect was legit to. Texas is sure stoked they traded for molina, it’s been pretty brutal since he came over. He’s also hit into 5 double plays and driven in 0 runs, I love you buster.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL thin tim is so funny
He’s playing so many different bork audio clips, shits fucking hilarious.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Wow cliff lee got the shit boo’d out of him today everytime he gave up a run, LOL TEXAS FANS.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Didn’t we see somewhere last night… MLB channel or something? that Lee has like a 7.something ERA at the Texas Stadium?
Can’t be but so much for a fly ball pitcher down there. Still, he was fine for Philly and there park isn’t a walk in the park either.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
well, and it was before Bengie joined the Rangers. I’m sure all opposing pitchers ERAs will go down now.
He just needs to follow the Strasburg example and put it all on his own shoulders and call his own game. Cliff Lee, once you man up and have the courage to shake off Hall Of Fame game caller Bengie Molina, you too will experience Strasburgian greatness. [While Strasburg yearns for a Cliff Lee innings count.]
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Edgar Rentaria is such a great clubhouse guy.
And a great middle infielder. It would be a shame if a team was looking for that and wanted to trade for him. Because he is so great at both of those things.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 11:22 PM PDT reply actions
Hopefully someone insane comes to the giants and is extremely interested in renteria. Gettng some value in return for him would be incredible, but that’s about as likely as pablo hitting his weight.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 10, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
WE GET IT. PABLO IS FAT.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 10, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Cards are looking for a good clubhouse guy that is a good middle infielder. So shut it and spread the good vibes man.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jul 10, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If we're out of this thing soon
Then Rent to the Cards or Phils might work
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Good Game!
I got to watch it sitting with my Dodger fan uncle-in-law… which was like the special sauce on my Big Mac of win.
Also … BUSTER POSEY!
Further, Panda made some very nice plays on the back end of those two Posey-to-Panda slices of awesomeness.
In addition, that Ray dude looks good, but I’m not sure if it’s because I’m looking at him through no-Molina colored glasses.
And as much as I have grown to like him, Aubrey really looked like a first baseman out there in left tonight.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 10, 2010 11:25 PM PDT reply actions
READ MY FUCKING FANSHOT!!!!!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/7/10/1563815/history-will-be-made-buster-posey
God I love making these.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Renteria has tripled his WAR value from 2009 this season
I can’t believe edgar renteria got 510 AB’s last year, jesus christ.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
MONEY DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Edgar can't believe it, himself.
That last 50 AB was after he went to the media to complain he had shoulder strain.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
One year ago today
Sanchez threw a no-hitter. How quickly we forget he had been demoted to the bullpen and the only reason he got to start that game was because Randy Johnson was hurt.
"Bengie Molina - the quintessential double play possibility." - Jon MIller
LOL good old randy one of the many giants pitchers injured while hitting over the last few years.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jul 11, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like I missed all the good parts leaving when the score was 4-5
Just thinking about being able to watch Posey for the next few (hopefully more) seasons brings a smile to my face.
Jeaaaggaahh
SO I HEARD YOU LIKE BUSTER POSEY
SO I GOT YOU A BUSTER SO YOU CAN POSEY WHILE YOU POSEY
I would like to talk to you about my pokemonz
Wow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 11, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
how was the paul mccartney show?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL SPORTCENTER
Pretty sure there was not even a single mention of the game tonight. They did, however, manage to spend 5 minutes talking to people in Cleveland about Lebron, and then another 5 minute segment talking to people in Miami about Lebron.
Also, they recapped the Reds/Phillies game twice.
I now wonder about the wisdom of using IR
We were at the game last night and just happened to be standing in a position looking exactly down the fence line when Buster hit that HR in the 9th. I was surprised they reviewed it because from our angle it so clearly landed about 2 feet past the fence line, halfway onto that little platform they have between the fence and stands.
I was even more surprised seeing the highlights this morning on MLBtv that it actually was a little questionable from the camera’s angle. If it’s hard to determine correctly whether a ball like that which was out with relatively plenty to spare is really gone, I wouldn’t think they have any chance at all on balls that are really close (a couple of inches say).
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I was at the game
Called Poseys homerun.
Suck it haters
We were sitting at the bar at Uno’s [in Antioch?] and I totally called Posey’s homerun.
“Oh look hon, we got here just in time to see Posey hit a homerun!”
Antioch-Style Pizza?
hmmmm… oh Shakeys, where have you gone?
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind it for chain pizza
I guess they killed all the ones in SF… there used to be one in Embarcadero Center and IIRC one in Stamford the Marina
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 11, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Posey haters?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
No offense, James Brady of SBN Bay Area, but you suck.
Giants: What is the deal with Buster Posey? I mean, I rode his jock for a year or two much like many folks but I didn’t see this kind of play.
You mean you didn’t see it all that time he was wearing out minor league ball? Or the 17 fucking plate appearances he had when he got called up and placed on the bench last September?
If you are going to write about bay area sports, perhaps you should pay attention to it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 11, 2010 8:09 AM PDT reply actions
Good morning, sunshine
CF Rowand
2B Sanchez
LF Huff
C Posey
1B Ishikawa
SS Uribe
3B Sandoval
RF Schierholtz
P Bumgarner
Nads has cemented his place on top of the lineup.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 11, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions
Whaddya mean "now"?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jul 11, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Buenos Dias, compadres!
Donde esta el reviso del partido????
Mods sleeping in?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 11, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions
Piazza
Also of note: Buster Posey has the best opposite-field swing for a right-handed hitter that I’ve seen since Mike Piazza. Even better, Posey doesn’t have a noodle arm, an elk’s head for a mitt, and a terrible moustache.
Interesting analogy. One of the things I liked about Piazza was his steadfast refusal to stop being a catcher after he was forced to do it to have a shot at the majors. It was kind of like, “Oh, now that you see I can hit, I don’t have to do this anymore? Screw you, I’m staying.”
Buster’s career has a similarity, except HE’S AN AWESOME CATCHER!
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game

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![From SFist: Buster Posey's Summer Vacation
Note the pile of dead Marlins.
At the Q Restaurant in the Richmond:
George [the artist] tells SFist: "I am currently at work with the fine folks at Q Restaurant and Wine Bar, who have allowed me over the past few months to make use of their largest wall for themed murals. This month, with our beloved Buster Posey sent. . .to the DL. . .I felt it appropriate to send him some well wishes from all his fans at the eatery."](http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/202096/busterart_2_small.jpg)
















