Post-game thread: Harang shuts down Giants
Well, Buster Posey wasn't shut down, but that's because our yellow sun nourishes him.
I don't really want to write about this game. Ugly relief, ugly offense, and mildly unattractive staring pitching. There's a strange calm about a loss like this. At least it wasn't a one-run nail biter.
Let's talk about music. I like Black Sabbath.
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I did manage to hear Torres’ walk and then “bases loaded, two outs….blah blah blah” Mole hits a fly ball to someplace I didn’t hear ’cuz I turned the radio right back off again.
Ugh. Those two really did try hard to win the game for the team. Gotta give ’em props, even if they failed.
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I’ve gotten really into Ratatat and Mogwai lately.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Rowand and Molina both don’t play and we lose. That doesn’t bode well.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
by rxmeister on Jun 9, 2010 7:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Those guys are inspirations to all when they are in the lineup
OBP and such are meaningless. It’s the gritty gamerness that matters!
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 9, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Seeing Iron Man 2 made me wonder, which sequels are better than the original? I couldn’t think of any off the top of my head.
GO MOVIE NURDS!
Ask me about my blog.
Gangster movies bore me
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
I dislike most of those two genres, but the ones I like are on my top ten lists.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
Yeah
Gangster movies never really did it for me either, although I loved Scarface, Goodfellas, and The Untouchables (not sure if that qualifies exactly). There isn’t a single western I like though, unless Blazing Saddles counts.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I don’t consider myself a western fan but I did like Open Range.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
this
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
have you watched any of the Sergio Leone epics?
Once Upon a Time in the West is pretty fucking awesome.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
I’m not a big western fan either, but I really liked Tombstone. Val Kilmer totally stole that movie as Doc Holliday.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
Also, Pale Rider is pretty damned good.
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I liked Unforgiven as well. I also liked “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence,” but I’m kind of dating myself with that one.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance was on tv the other day. I was getting into it but had to shut it off to go do something.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Man Who Shot Liberty Valence was a song by Gene Pitney from the movie. James Stewart, John Wayne and Lee Marvin are the stars.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
I bet you’re a big Lee Marvin fan aren’t ya?
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably Point Blank. I really liked The Killers. Dirty Dozen, too.
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He was great in Cat Ballou and he won an Oscar for that movie, although it was a comedy and kind of out of character for him. Damn, Jane Fonda was hot in that movie. I remember watching Monster In Law with my family a few years ago, and trying to convince them how much hotter Jane Fonda was in her day than Jennifer Lopez ever was.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
and in They Shoot Horses, Don’t They? Now that’s a fun movie!
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I really liked that movie.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
"I'm your Huckelberry"
Great call RX. Kilmer’s performance is tremendous in that movie. I also agree with you on the Unforgiven.
I’m going to catch crap for this – but I also liked True Grit. Completely silly. But everyone should watch at least one John Wayne movie.
Or The Shootist.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 10, 2010 3:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope
I guess I haven’t seen a lot of westerns, it’s just a period of time I find incredibly awful and uninteresting.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I also have an issue watching movies that old.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Dead Man. It’s a western, but it’s a Jim Jarmusch western.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
The problem here . . .
. . . is that poor marcello won’t be able to see what Leone is doing in “Once Upon a Time” if he doesn’t have a foundation in The Western genre.
I love it, but it assumes many things. The first 25 minutes are great, but they’ll be tedious to the uninitiated.
Proud father of Alex and Fred Lewis.
I ain't denyin' there wasn't no bottle.
The first 25 minutes are great, but they’ll be tedious to the uninitiated.
I don’t really think that’s true. I mean, Charles Bronson’s first scene is like the single greatest thing that has ever happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juwwCTBZOCQ
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
In a lot of the better American westerns, there is a ton of modern day allegory. High Noon and the Magnificent Seven have strong parallels to American foreign policy at the time.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
It had it’s moments, but it ran out of energy in the last hour.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
I can never make up my mind about that movie. There are some intense, beautiful passages, and then there are some long stretches of sheer nonsense. It’s haunting, though.
Yeah, I also couldn’t decide if the ending was brilliant or just bizarre.
SPOILERS
I like the whole “everything in the 60’s is one big opium trip” theory, but it doesn’t really work perfectly.
Also, I absolutely hate the car rape scene. I really don’t understand why it’s there, and the fact that she seems to forgive him for it (along with the other female character, who apparently likes being raped) just gives me the impression that Leone is a deeply disturbed man.
On the other hand, James Woods is great. Plus you get to see De Niro talk in Yiddish.
I was promised lasagna.
I worked hard with this one, and having seen it in its entirety three times over about 20 years I still don’t think it works as a film. The best thing I can say about it is that it has a nostalgic feel for a past that never existed, a world that’s purely cinematic. The plotting and characterizations leave a lot to be desired, and some of the scenes are downright embarrassing. I’ve heard that it’s even worse in the butchered version that originally was released, but I’ve only seen the pure version, and I really don’t know why it’s considered a masterpiece.
I love Leone’s westerns, though. Finally saw Duck, You Sucker a couple years ago and was pretty impressed—certainly much more worthy and epic than its reputation indicates.
by Duelling Brandos on Jun 9, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
agree on Once Upon a Time in the West. Never get bored watching those facial closeups.
Also Altman’s McCabe & Mrs. Miller. Julie Christy in her prime. Great western and great movie.
"Was Meulens tut, das ist wohlgetan."
J. S. Bach, Giants fan
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
Almost forgot about that one. Julie Christie. Delicious.
not a fan either
but 3:10 to Yuma was pretty awesome.
The Outlaw Josie Wales
Rent it. Love it.
Eastwood directed and starred in it and was fucking awesome while doing so. Chief Dan George is also hilarious in it.
by Cixelsyd on Jun 9, 2010 9:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've seen parts
My dad is a huge Clint Eastwood fan, but I could just never get into it.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Love it. I love the realism of the character interactions. These people aren’t good guys fighting the bad guys; everyone is out for themselves, which sometimes creates interesting alliances when goals collide.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I'd like to see Iron Man 2
Without the attendant threats of internet suspension.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 9, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
wut
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
wut
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the most famous Tarantino film I haven’t seen. I suppose I should see it if I insist on talking so much trash about him.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Dangit! That was meant to be a response to the Jackie Brown comment.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I don’t think you’re missing too much, personally. Pulp Fiction is great. Inglorious Basterds is really good. I can leave the rest of them, for the most part.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Re-watched Jackie Brown recently. It’s pretty good.
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Easily Tarantino’s best movie and very underrated.
Chris Gloor: my lefty is bigger than your lefty
by crazedcrustacean on Jun 9, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Some good, some bad
You gotta see Pulp Fiction at least.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
It’s close, but I think I prefer the 1st. I didn’t really like that De Niro side story that much (though apparently I’m the alone in the world on that one), and Diane Keaton is soooo annoying in the 2nd.
I was promised lasagna.
it was an abortion, Michael.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Diane Keaton is the weakest part of the whole series: totally unsympathetic.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Sofia is pretty terrible, but she’s only in one movie. Talia Shire isn’t really good either.
Francis Ford Coppola: not good with female characters.
I was promised lasagna.
I don’t really consider Three to be a part of the series.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Godfather.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a sequel. It’s a remake.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 9, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Terminator
Superman II?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Well, both T2 and Aliens are in my top 5 movies, so it’s close between the two. But they both exceeded the originals.
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Doesn’t it kinda seem like it’s unfair to count a special effects movie that was made almost 10 years after it’s predecessor?
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Although the action sequences in each are completely awesome, I do think the energy levels in each are part of what bring them both up in quality.
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Deep Throat II was pretty good.
and yes I’m kidding.
I disagree. I love the grittiness of the first one. I love both of them, though.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah, but Linda Hamilton was pretty fierce in the second. That was all kinds of awesome, even when she was crazy.
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You remind me of her
You even have the crazy down! =p
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If only I had her arms. Damn, she was hot in that film.
/stabs Lars with a pen
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In that vein, that’s perhaps the thing I love most about James Cameron. Early on, at least, he did a great job of casting leading women who manage to be strong, sympathetic, multi-dimensional, and attractive-without-being-barbie-dolls.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Toy Story 2. Though I’m not a huge fan of those movies
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Agreed
Except with the whole “not a huge fan” thing. Going opening day to Toy Story 3, for sure.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
I am too. I like Toy Story, I just don’t love it. I feel that way about a lot of the early Pixar movies, like Toy Story, Bugs Life and Monsters Inc: Interesting concept, but missing something
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Love Monsters. Could live without Bugs Life. Toy Story is awesome because it’s the first.
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Monsters Inc is brilliant. I watched Bugs Life too much when I was younger though.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
PUT THAT THING BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM OR SO HELP ME
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem is that I can’t help but compare them to more recent movies like Incredibles, Up and Wall-E, which I thought were brilliant and packed more emotional punch
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
I don’t know, Monsters Inc had plenty of emotional punch for me, to be honest.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Same here.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
And Toy Story 2 makes me cry like a baby
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh, man, I cry every time I see it.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The flashback scene with Jessie…
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
I think Pixar is making Monsters Inc. 2.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
They’re making another Monsters with some characters, but I don’t know how sequel-y it is.
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I agree
Monsters, Inc. is really good
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
I have an interesting story about watching Monsters, Inc.
So when my daughter was a baby, I was watching Monsters, Inc. with my wife and a couple of friends during a thunderstorm. My daughter was sleeping in her room with a baby monitor. Well, towards the end of the movie we hear a man’s voice over the baby monitor.
Needless to say, we booked it into her room only to find it empty. Yeah. That was pretty scary.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
O_O
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You were under our house, weren't you?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
WWWAAALLLRRRUSSSMAAANNNN!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
But seriously, ghosts.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Maybe
(Quite seriously)
One night I was woken up by my wife around midnight (she had stayed up doing some stuff). She was crying because somebody whispered in her ear “get out of here” as she was cooking alone in the kitchen.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
An office building I used to work out may very well have had been haunted. At least, there was some weird stuff going on. It was a historical mansion on the Alameda in San Jose that had been re-built by my boss. There was an area that would often smell of whiskey. I would work near midnight many nights, and sometimes I’d hear someone distinctly calling my name even though I was the only one there. And other weird stuff would happen.
Kinda cool, if not weird.
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I've never understood being scared of ghosts
I mean, they aren’t physical beings (if they exist at all [I actually lean towards belief, though there is no evidence for it]).
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I AIN'T AFRAID OF NO GHOST - Ray Parker Jr.
That was pretty much how I dealt with it. I’d just tell her (we think it was a she) “Come get me, then” and she never did. So it was creepy, but not terribly scary for some reason.
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You obviously didn't watch Paranormal Activity
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
It scared the crap out of me
But I scare sort of easily.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
there were some creepy parts but once it was over I thought it was pretty funny, the ending mostly
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I did have trouble getting past what a tool the boyfriend was. And like most horror movies, there are about a million things I would have done differently.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
You were drunk
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
I might want to clarify. The room was empty…except for my daughter.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
All I remeber from Monsters Inc is that it had maybe the cutest movie character in history. Except for that kid from Jerry McGuire.
I was promised lasagna.
We're ALL older than you.
But what comes out of you is older than us – and THAT’S disturbing.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 10, 2010 3:36 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s older than me, too.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If you feel like being creeped out, just think of child actor you saw in a movie when you were younger, and look up how their picture now.
The results are usually disturbing.
I was promised lasagna.
Yeahh, I’ve done that before. It’s weird.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The ending to Monsters Inc. was brilliant, though
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
completely disagree
The original Toy Story had Woody and Buzz fighting for Andy yada, yada. Ultimately you knew it was Andy who was going to make the final decision. So the entire time they’re fighting to get back to Andy, you have this horrible feeling that they’re going to go through all of that and Andy is going to say “aww Woody you suck” and throw him in a box. It’s really a coming of age movie that doesn’t feel it has to be overt and shove it in your face and make you cry and miss your favorite childhood toy.
The second movie had none of the subtlety of the first. When it tried to play on the coming of age angle, it really didn’t fit and felt jammed in there to please the adults. The rest of the movie is just the toys breaking all sorts of toy rules and causing mayhem that you KNOW toys wouldn’t do. Don’t even get me started on a toy horse keeping up with an aircraft!
You have to suspend your sense of reality for the sake of entertainment.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 10, 2010 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions
LOTR?
I liked 1 best but it seems like a lot of people liked 2 and 3.
I preferred the books!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 9, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They aren’t sequels.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 9, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Never seen any of them
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Aliens
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Now yerr talkin'.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 9, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t agree with this one. Aliens was a great action movie, but the original is so perfectly sleek and minimalist and disturbing.
But Aliens had so much awesome action. And Sigourney Weaver in a tank top. And “They mostly come at night. Mostly.” And also, “GET AWAY FROM HER YOU BITCH!!!”.
The director’s cut is better, imo. It explains Ripley’s attachment to Newt.
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I frequently youtube my way to the scene wherein Ripley crashes her way into the alien hive in order to save the marines. The music is awesome. I vividly remember the first time I saw that sequence. And near the end, when BISHOP FTW… Chills.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That was probably one of my favorite movies to see in the theater. I literally had my knees pulled up to my chest, in breathless anticipation of what was going to happen next. It seemed like it kept ending, only to pull out yet another shocker. OH MY GOD IT WAS AWESOME!
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I almost fainted when Bishop showed up.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
(d’oh – just saw thehavenot’s post above mine. that’s what I get for being too lazy to scroll down before hitting reply.)
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KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
AGREED
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
X-Men
Terminator
Spiderman
More Dirty debutante
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Everyone tells me that Spiderman 2 was better than the first. I dunno. They seem equally average to me. I know a film student who spent almost an hour explaining to me how Spiderman 2 is the perfect comic book movie.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I liked them both a lot at the time, but they become more average-ish the more I think about them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They seem equally average to me.
This.
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Spidey 2 had the right blend of character development and action, and Doc Ock was the best villain in the three movies.
I’ll never forgive them for fucking up Venom.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
How to do venom well, though?
Rushing him into one film was dumb. It would take three films to get him right, and I just don’t see a secret wars sort of movie. So I guess break it into two.
1 – Spidey in the suit till the end when he drops it in the third act due to suckitude. During this film develop Brock.
2 – Brock gets the suit and wreaks havoc.
It could work.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 9, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A good start
Don’t make him one of three villains.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Is it weird that James Cameron has made two of the best sequels of all time?
Lethal Weapon 2, maybe. Been a while since I’ve seen it. Fugitive Alien 2 was generally superior to the first. The Dark Knight. Gremlins 2 was pretty good. That’s what I’ve got on short notice.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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That's . . .
. . . badgers. We don’ need no stinkin’ badgers.
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Dark Tower movie trilogy!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a bit worried
Ron Howard directing? I worry about his casting.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Ron Howard makes me all nggghhh.
Quick, who do you cast for the following….
Roland:
Man in Black / Randall Flagg / etc:
Eddie:
Jake:
Go!
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If this were 20 years ago, Clint Eastwood would have been a perfect Roland. Now? I haven’t the foggiest idea who should get that role.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Ron Howard tends to put Tom Hanks in all his movies. This is my main concern.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Too pretty
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll put him in the maybe pile
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hugh Laurie is my choice for Roland. Dude’s got serious actng chops, would be about the right age, and has pale blue eyes.
by Cixelsyd on Jun 9, 2010 8:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was watching The Stand mini series recently. I was pretty disappointed with Molly Ringwald as Frannie
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Really? I thought she was pretty okay.
One of my favorite mini-series, btw.
And actually, the unabridged books is also one of my favorites. I re-read it every 5 years or so. It sucks me in completely.
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The guy face down in his soup as Blue Oyster Cult played in the background was a great scene.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. And also cool since that song is one of my all-time favorites.
For your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAvTn3uz5w
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Btw, fans of The Stand should check out The Passage by Justin Cronin. Best postapocalyptic vampire novel ever.
I was just reading about that book. Was gonna look it up tonight.
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I’ve heard Howard has cast Anson Williams, Donny Most, Henry Winkler and Scott Baio in those parts.
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by rxmeister on Jun 9, 2010 8:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
IMHO
Ones I think are better:
Rambo II
Empire Strikes Back
Godfather II
Evil Dead 2
Dawn of the Dead
Dark Knight
Die Hard III
Ones that people mentioned I don’t agree with:
Silence of the Lambs
Aliens
T2
Ones that would have been better if they actually got made:
Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League
History of the World Part II
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And Desperado
Man, Desperado blows El Mariachi out of the water and across the continent. And I’d rather re-watch Desperado for the billionth time than watch Once Upon a Time in Mexico.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Once Upon a Time in Mexico was unwatchable. Just…. bad.
The Magic is inside all of us.
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For me
I’d go:
1) Desperado
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“2)” Once Upon a Time
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3) El Mariachi
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Dude, Posey.
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POSEY POSEY POSEY POSEY POSEY
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
And also
Does anyone else find it irritating that CSNBA lists FP’s playing “experience” at the start of the post-game show? I mean, maybe it’s better than him always reminding us that he used to play baseball as a professional, but still. . . . It seems stoopid.
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Maybe they wrote a clause into his contract stating that if CSN mentions it to start off the show, he’s not allowed to mention it ON the show?
LOL. The thought actually crossed my mind before I posted it.
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They do that with Bret Hedican as well. I think that CSN believes that it makes them more credible. While that doesn’t necessarily work with FP, Hedican is pretty awesome as an analyst.
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He’ll go on a tear any day now
Any day now
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It is possible that he won’t.
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by positiveuphemism on Jun 9, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the fuck wasn't Posey at catcher?
That’s just fucking retarted.
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Whitey is Sanchy’s personal catcher. He caught that no-hitter that one time, and hasn’t left his side since. I think they got married in Holland.
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He looked godawful in the first game, but I’ve been listening to the radio in the last two.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
This
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not this.
seems scary to me.
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He seems to be making more catches than I expected he would
like that hit by Jay Bruce today…I thought that was a gap shot but then he caught it
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Honestly? Not that bad. But that’s just my eyes talking. Or something.
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I suspect that . . .
. . . he’s probably like Huff: limited range, but can play capably what he can get to. I think in today’s game we probably saw our first example of a hit from limited range on one hit to RF; I suspect (but won’t swear) that Schierholtz, or Torres, catches what Huff played as a single. Mind, Huff seemed to know his abilities and didn’t make a mad charge for what he couldn’t get, but rather played it as well as his speed allowed. My impression. Burrell made a decent throw for the phantom out at the plate. Also my impression. I don’t insist on either view.
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I was at the game and it was the first time I noticed how bad Huff looked in the outfield. Slow to break. Slow to get there. No arm. And he was sort of squatting out there between batters like he was a bored little league kid picking dandelions. The Reds keyed on re corners tonight. You could see them trying to pull the ball down the line at the plate.
This experiment isn’t working, IMO. The bats don’t jusify the runs the team is going to give away n the field when Huff and Burrell play outfield.
by Cixelsyd on Jun 9, 2010 8:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sabbath Rules!
I’m more of an Ozzy fan, but Ronnie James Dio did a good job in the middle years. Too bad to hear he just died. RIP DIO.
Yes, RIP DIO
I’ve been listening to Sabbath most of my life.
When I was a kid I used to go through my dad’s record crates looking for stuff to listen to just based on the album art. He had 2 Dio albums, Holy Diver and The Last In Line, both of which had album art that terrified me as a 7 year old. I refused to listen to any Dio or Molly Hatchet albums because of how creepy the albums looked. Once I got a little older though I realized how good the music was and haven’t stopped listening to either one since.
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by TehGreekStallion on Jun 9, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The amazing thing is that Dio was belting out all those tunes in his mid to late-30’s. How he still had his voice at that point in his life is beyond me. BTW the best Sabbath album ever is Master of Reality. That album still gives me the creeps. “Would you like to see the Pope at the end of a rope, do you think he’s a fool?”
The first five are all nearly flawless. I’ve really been into Vol. IV lately.
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Mentioned this in the GDT to thundering silence, but I'll try again. . .
I’ve got tix to the July 18 game vs. the Mets. It may be my only game of the season (durned kids). I’m bringing my niece and her fiance (a Mets fan from New York).
Anybody else going?
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I might. making some plans,but we’re between that date and the next homestand.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
We were looking at games just last night. Due to work and school schedules we’re stuck with weekend games till August, and quite frankly Mets, Red Sox, and Dodgers just don’t sound like relaxing, enjoyable experiences, plus I’m sure the prices will be reeeeeeeedickalus!
I got club level tix from StubHub for $15 less each than the sfgiants site. I’ve been trolling StubHub for weeks hoping to find a decent deal. Got it!
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My niece has never been to the Phone Booth. She’s visiting from Salt Lake City (hasn’t been to California in probably a decade; was in Phoenix before that), so I wanted to do it right.
Originally I was hoping to take her and her man to the Mets game to mock the Mets’ fat catcher, Bengie Molina, but now that’s not gonna go how I planned.
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Damnit, this means we’re going to see NADS and FAT tomorrow.
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I wonder if Belt will be MLB ready by this time next year
if they fast-track him Posey-style
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
He certainly could be
He seems to be a similar type hitter.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
gotta figure he sees AA Richmond at some point this summer. A couple of weeks in AFL. Possible ST invite? Who are the Giants 1b throughout the organizational depth chart?
Sandoval
Posey
Pill
Belt
Really? He seems worse to me
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Pill just doesn't do it for me.
Bases Empty .364
Runners On .223
I sense GIDP-itis
The money lies in the RBIs
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/howtheyscored has apoplectic fit
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There is nothing worse than someone who doesn’t understand how to use stats digging through them to try and make a point.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
You don't understand the difference between reality and nerdistic bullshit.
I don’t use statistics to make projections of future performance. I look to statistics for help in interpreting actions that have factually happened.
The money lies in the RBIs
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Instead of those that fictionally happened?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 10, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
How many you got?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 10, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
anyone see Uribe with his arm around Molina near the end of the game, looking like he was consoling him or something? I’m going to hope that when I wake up tomorrow I’ll hear that he was traded or DFA’d.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
My take-away thought for this game:
Whyever in the world was FSanchez hitting away at 3-1 with the bases loaded, a 2-run difference, and a pitcher whose Slovenian-to-English phrasebook did not include the words “strike zone”? Whether that pitch was a strike or no is irrelevant: he should have been taking. Okay, 1) Sanchez is a natural slasher by temprament, and 2) a hit does more than a walk there. But, again, it was mid-game, Harang had seriously lost the zone, and Sandoval was next up.
Truth to tell, this tells me less about FSanchez than about Bork. As my lady has shouted for years, many times a game, Is there no such thing as a take sign on this team?
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and Sandoval was next up.
Considering his performance of late, this may be your answer.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope that's meant as a joke.
A walk, which seemed the most likely outcome, scores a sure run and puts the team within 1 run in mid-game with the bases loaded and your best hitter—even if he is in a funk lately—at the plate. Even if Panda fails there, the team is within easy striking distance with some game time left. No one can be sure what would have happened: maybe Harang would have regrouped and thrown two killer strikes in a row. But I still say it was most unwise. FSanchez has what odds of getting a hit? (You could look it up but I’m too lazy.) What are the odds Harang throws two good strikes in a row there, considering where he was at that moment?
Freddie slashed to RF, as expected by everyone, for a fairly routine out. If you’re afraid to hit with two strikes, well . . . .
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he hit a sharp line drive
BABIP for line drives is like .700.
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That's . . .
. . . ex post facto reasoning. If he hit a fucking HR, it was still a bad move. Bad moves with good outcomes were still bad moves.
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why would you have a good hitter
take a good pitch to hit? I mean, we agree that the pitch as thrown was a strike, right? So that puts him in a 3-2 count, where he’s more likely to swing at something that’s borderline.
Full discloure: I think “taking all the way” is really really stupid. Look for a certain type/location, and if you don’t get it, lay off, sure. But just deciding “I’m not gonna swing no matter what”, why?
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The pitch was a strike, so Harang only needed to throw one strike in a row. Even he has an over 50% chance of doing that.
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Also . . .
. . . ex post facto. The situation at 3-1 is “take the pitch”. If you know in advance what each pitch is going to be, you’ll be an amazing batter, but I don’t think anyone has yet fully perfected that technique. It is also less clear what the chances are when the pitcher has apparently lost the zone.
In normal, average circumstances, the pitcher has maybe a 40% chance of throwing two consecutive strikes, but when he’s having a problem, that drops. So Freddie has at worst a 60% or so chance of walking in the run if he just takes both pitches, and no one says he has to take the second one if the first is a strike. And the real odds, considering Harang’s wildness at that point, are probably well over 60%. Without knowing a priori what the pitch will be, do you reckon Freddie has a rougly 2-in-3 chance of getting a hit on it? I don’t.
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but
for all we know, he might as well have known a priori. If he’s thinking “ok, I think he’s gonna throw fastball away, and I’m not going to swing if it’s anything else”, and he gets a fastball away…
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Good grief.
You really think the batter knows where the pitch is going to be even when the pitcher doesn’t?
But suppose he actually, really does somehow know what the pitch is going to be. You think even a career .300 hitter has a better than 65% chance of getting a hit on it? (And, considering Harang’s wildness, the odds would probably have to somewhat better than 65% or so.) Recall that to get a hit, two successive events have to occur: 1) he has to make decent contact with the ball; and 2) the ball needs to fall in for a hit. Upthread, we read “BABIP for line drives is like .700”. That means he has to have an virtually 100% chance of making good contact, and even that may understate the case with, I say again, Harang’s wildness just then.
So we need: Freddie to know what the pitch is going to be and where; 2) Freddie to have a nearly 100% certain probability of hitting it; and 3) the claimed 70% probability it will fall in for a hit. And if all three of those circumstances prevail, he might have almost as good a chance of success as if he just took two pitches without flinching. (Which doesn’t even allow for his risking a swing on a close potential third strike.)
Which part of the calculation do you disagree with?
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well
you’re not taking foul balls into account, for one. Not sure what the foul rate is, but it’s obviously nonzero, and would have the same effect in this case. Also, you’re not taking into account that he would only swing if its a strike. You’re saying I’m judging it ex post facto, but the fact of the matter is, the pitch was a strike. I believe that professional batters have an ability to constrict their zones when facing 2-0 or 3-1 counts just like they can expand them in 2 strike counts.
So, with the batter’s constricted zone, you really have to weigh swinging vs. the odds that the pitcher will be able to throw one more strike. In addition, with the batter looking for a specific pitch type and location, his chances of solid contact are certainly increased. By how much, I can’t be sure, but I don’t imagine it’s a trivial amount.
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you seem to be acting
as if the decision of whether or not to swing is made before the pitch is thrown.
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and is completely independent from the pitch itself
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As best I understand it . . .
. . . that’s what the phrase “take sign” signifies, yes.
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and I think
the “take” sign is moronic, because there’s no sense in taking an obvious strike that the batter is waiting for that can be driven. I think the batters should be EXTREMELY selective, but deciding a priori not to swing under any circumstances is, IMO, stupid.
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There are circumstances where you shouldn’t swing. I don’t think that was one of them, but they do exist.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends
If he was sitting on that specific pitch, it’s plausible that he had a ~40% of not making an out on it. He has a ~.330 career BABIP. And a single in that situation is worth significantly more than a walk.
I would say it’s at least close.
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The only ex post facto is you bitching about the outcome of a line drive.
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No.
It’s about the line drive having been hit. Re-read the posts.
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I read them
I’m just telling you why you’re wrong. I don’t care how smart you’re trying to make yourself sound, you’re completely wrong on this count.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
In normal, average circumstances, the pitcher has maybe a 40% chance of throwing two consecutive strikes, but when he’s having a problem, that drops.
How do you arrive at this figure? Is it simply the chance that any two consecutive pitches in a game will be strikes?
With a 3-1 count, the bases loaded, and a good hitter on deck, Harang’s obviously just going to throw two fastballs and dare Sanchez to hit them. I would guess that the chance that a veteran control pitcher like Harang can throw two consecutive strikes in that situation would be very, very high.
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he hit a sharp line drive
that was not a bad at bat.
i think giving a straight take sign is a bad idea, if theres a pitch to hit, a hot hitter like sanchez should be allowed to attack it.
He smoked the ball
I have trouble finding any fault with that AB.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
flem made it seem like [outfielder] took a hit away from sanchez… and that he had crushed the ball. i was listening so i don’t know..
bases juiced, i mean, if you get your pitch, why not swing?
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by The Gene Hackman on Jun 9, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
baseball is primarily about hitting
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by greatgiantfan on Jun 9, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Hit the ball; catch the ball; throw the ball.
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i’m just sayin’ that when you’re a good hitter with a 3-1 count and the bases loaded, by all means, swing at a good pitch, which is what Sanchez did. To do otherwise empowers the other team, and even the ump will tend to enlarge the strike zone if he thinks the batter is not up there to hit.
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by greatgiantfan on Jun 9, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If that ball drops we've got 2 runs.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
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. . . then beggars could ride.
If wishes were fishes, we’d never go hungry.
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and if Franchez takes the pitch
and then ends up having to swing at a strike that he’s not able to drive as well and grounds out weakly to 2b, the outcome is just as bad. The pitch WAS a strike. So Harang only had to throw 1 more.
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I love the assumption that the next pitch is obviously going to be a ball. I’ll repeat, this is fucking retarded.
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I disagree
Sanchez has been killing the ball. And he hit a rope. Bruce made a nice catch. Otherwise its up the alley for 3 runs.
hours after the fact…
with all due respect, this has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read in the history of McCovey Chronicles (by someone who was trying to be serious, at least). A pitcher is the only person you would want to order a must-take sign on with a 3-1 count, runners be damned. if you can’t have faith in your hitter to take a great swing on a hit-me 3-1 fastball, then throw your hands in the air, give up, and try a new sport because you’re done.
please don’t get a hitting coach job with the Giants. please do get one with the Dodgers.
Again, this opinion is meant with all due respect… I am just bewildered at your logic. As if the skill aspect of the game of baseball escapes you.
This is silly. If you have the same situation but with Jonathan Sanchez pitching to Bengie Molina with Barry Bonds on deck, taking all the way on 3-1 is obviously the right move. The increased chance of drawing a walk far outweighs the diminished chance of getting a hit.
I’m pretty sure Harang/Sanchez/Sandoval doesn’t make the cut, but any decent manager needs to be making quick estimates of these things. It’s a tough game; you need every tactical advantage you can get.
I’m wonder if Bochy would even use his son in a game before he turns 30.
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Well, he’ll need major league experience before he can get any major league experience.
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they got golden tate LOLOL
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
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"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I must have missed it somewhere… who’s pitching tomorrow? And the first person that says “Who’s not pitching, Who’s on first,” is gonna get smacked with a wet noodle!!!
HE'S GOT AN OPEN BASE!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
terrible finish
I wanted to see at least a legit goal and some philly fan rage, BUT NONE OF THAT!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
on replay
it was a totally legit goal. No idea why it took so long to work it out
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Fucking shit.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I was referring to the Hawks fucking shit.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
well then, that is their favorite hobby
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 9, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Boys are ick... wait a minute
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Does anyone else hate when a team wins a championship on the road?
A trophy celebration is a lot more emotional when the entire crowd isn’t pissed at the fact their team just lost.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, however I think it would feel that much more special for the players to have their crowd cheering them on as they get a trophy. The Blackhawks celebration was almost awkward.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK CHICAGO
that’s all i got to say
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Ugh I hate the Blackhawks
So does Zito

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
That wasn't necessary with the middle pic
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Hence, the subject line.
And believe me, it hurt having to search through pictures of that. And getting constant twitter updates of the celebrations. Ugh.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
lol you
today’s wednesday.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I'm thinking
I shouldn’t have said anything and let him wake up early tomorrow all excited, only to be terribly disappointed minutes later.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
pffff
i usually fall asleep at like 330. 700 is almost cripplingly early for me
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Jesus, Vlili. What’s the matter with you?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
this fall f'ed me over
Only had to get up early (before 11) 2 days/week. Got used to staying up late and sleeping in. Now I’m working 5 days a week again, and it’s a bit of an adjustment.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Heh, I'm gonna wake up at like 9:50 or like 10 to watch the Giants game tomorrow
and that’s at least 2 hours early for me (although lately I’ve been getting up at the crack of 1:30)
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Well, I’m in college and it’s summer for me, last night I went to bed at 5am. So to wake up at 7 is quite the jump.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and music
I currently have I Still Remember by Bloc Party stuck in my head. Although a little while ago I had Letters from the sky by Civil Twilight stuck in my head.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Can you link me the fresno gameday?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I'll be suprised if velez isn't called up soon
It’s only a matter of time unfortunately, god I hate that kid.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Defensive sub
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
/Bochy moves him to 2B
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Oh geez no.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
/Starts at CF
//Moves back to LF when Bork pinch hits Rowand for Torres
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
It might be old yeller time if that happens.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Crap Shoot
the mlb draft is such a crap shoot. Some first rounders fail. Some 20th rounders make it.
Wonder what is going on with Gillaspie
Second place: Wilco
Fifteenth thousand place: Bad Company
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 9, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
good article on mehlina
http://friscofastball.com/2010/06/08/where-bengie-molina-fails-as-a-giant/
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
GIT R DUN GINATS BRASZ
No, seriosuly, get him to Texas NOW
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Meh
I guess I will take a series split against the Reds on the road.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
You kidding me? This is bruce bochy
5 ip, 11 R, 11 ER, 1 BB, 6 home runs, 14 hits, 2 SO
Bork: I felt he had a good rhythm going after the 3rd and plus I didn’t wanna have to use up the bullpen on the road bork bork.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 9, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
this...
is amazing
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I know
I stumbled upon it on some random site, one of the most incredible things I have ever seen.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Wait, seriously?
I thought Bork was just an McC thing.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 9, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
As did I
But I was on the site www.friscofastball.com and stumbled upon this greatness, talk about a diamond in the rough.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The person who writes that site definitely reads McCovey Chronicles.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 9, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Definately
He knows what he’s talking about, I like his posts. I was just stoked to see bork on another site, but obviously he knows of the mccoven.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Cool blog
It’s nice to see another intelligent/respectful blog with good posts, instead of FIRE EVERYONE BENGIE IS FAT.
+He’s an MCC fan.
by RastonwarriorRobot on Jun 9, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This would cool if this was the Bochy bobblehead giveaway
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
ROFL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
neither do i, although i did listen to half of it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Shift-AYYYYY Just got into Denver about an hour ago, and this is by far the most disgusting hotel i’ve ever been in, the sheets are just flat out nasty, there are stains on them too… I might as well sleep on the floor. But yea, i was listening to the game via Reds broadcasting, and Marty wasn’t too bad, although i didn’t know what happened in the 5th since they talked to some guy from nascar. Glad i had the sights and sounds of Kansas and Colorado to keep me from listening to the game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
What the fuck are you doing in Denver? (Besides making love to Troy Tulowitzki)
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrows LAS VEGAS!!!
then home! just on my way back from school, but i’ve said my fair share of SUCK IT TULO
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
wow db's LOL
Went into the 8th down 1-0 and got a 2 run inside the park home run from parra LOL.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Randy Winn up with a chance to beat the Dodgers
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
Fail
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
LOL FPOM FROM RANDALL WINN
Deja vu?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
god dammit
Broxton got so fucking lucky, molinas double bounced over the wall pujols would have scored EASILY.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I've been talking to some Cards fans and they're not too happy about the signing
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL FUCKING BORK
Here’s another lineup question for Bochy to ponder: Is it time to bump up Posey in the lineup? Maybe let his .450 average go to work in the No. 3 spot and move down Pablo Sandoval?
“I tell you what, I kind of like him where he’s at in that 7 hole,” Bochy said. “Burrell has been a good on-base guy. I think Buster’s coming up in some pretty good situations.”
POSEY DOES WELL IN THE 7TH HOLE SO HE’S STAYING THERE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Jun 9, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah we need to get him behind Sanchez and Torres. Move Sandoval to 7th, Burrell to 8th. He can get on base in front of the pitcher.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 9, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You got to believe
Sandoval will hit his way out of these DP type thing
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It’s not the DPs. Hes just not hitting.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 9, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Every now and then there’s something that happens, but he’s not hitting with the consistency he once was last year, and it really has to do with his patience and swing at the plate, someone has to sit him down and just straighten everything out
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
POSEY SHOULD BAT FIRST, SECOND, THRID, AND FOURTH!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 9, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL BORK

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Since Bonds called Aaron Rowand, Scott.
Does he call Scott Rolen, Aaron?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
He was in the booth with K&K and referred to Rowand as “Scott”.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
That’s funny. I didn’t hear the story originally, but I always suspected it was because Bonds thought the Giants signed Rolen.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
If only Pablo had an OPS that high
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
If only Scott had an OPS 60% that high
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
If only half the team had an OPS 50% that high
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
fucking dreamy.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know how to properly express my happiness
so I’ll give that a rec
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Spiral Architect
One of the best Sabbath songs ever that you’ ve probably never heard
Chris Gloor: my lefty is bigger than your lefty
by crazedcrustacean on Jun 9, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
Slow night
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 9, 2010 10:50 PM PDT reply actions
It’s odd.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 9, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants lost
big time, so yea
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I think a lot of people are megh on this team
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I'm confused
as to whether or not we’re in this thing.
by Into the Void on Jun 9, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
We may or may not be in this thing
But come on out to the park and give an arm and a leg to find out!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Unfortunately I think rowand and molina will start tomorrow. I’m not really sure I want buster catching wellemeyer anyway, it’s really a insult to buster if anything. Not only that but wellemeyer is going to get billy bucknered tomorrow and bork would say that posey called a bad game and isn’t ready to catch bork bork.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I hope Cincinnati has the same stupid tradition as Chicago (and San Francisco. Although Chicago usually throws back a fake ball) has and someone threw the ball back so that Buster could get his first homer back without giving anything up.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I read that the fan agreed to give the ball back in exchange for an autographed one.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 10, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't have anything substantive to add to any of the above movie discussions,
but I will say that I’m fucking mad that MacGruber got pulled from every movie theater everywhere before I could see it.
I downloaded a bootleg copy, but the quality sucked, so I didn’t watch it. In the meantime, I’m re-watching all the SNL skits and I’ve started on the first season of MacGyver.
At this point, the movie doesn’t have to be good—I just have to watch it.
"I feel ten feet tall right now...and strong as an ox!"
Don’t really know what to make of MacGruber, but this outtake from the Stargate TV series always make me laugh.
by non sequitur on Jun 10, 2010 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL lineup
per puppet schulman
No rest for Uribe on smokin’ day; Torres rf, Sanchez 2b, Sandoval 3b, Huff lf, Uribe ss, Posey 1b, Molina c, Rowand cf, Wellemeyer p
LOL ROWAND LOL BENGIE, ensuring mike leake the 70 pitch CG shutout.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Meh, this is a loss anyway
When Wellemeyer starts, they can fill the lineup with the entire Molina family for all I care.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 10, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants didn’t replace Wellemeyer with Triple-A Fresno right-hander Joe Martinez, because they have no obvious candidates to send down
Other than, you know, Wellemeyer.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
This is a 100% locked up loss, I would even bet on it even I was a betting man
So there is no point in playing uribe, sandoval, huff, sanchez, and torres. Unfortunately there’s not enough people on this team to fill the field with bodies to absorb the incoming slaughter.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
HEY GRANT . . .
. . . WHERE’S THE OPENING THREAD?
GAME STARTS SOON. THE BABY’S ANXIOUS.
{anybody out there . . . ?}
Proud father of Alex and Fred Lewis.
I ain't denyin' there wasn't no bottle.
BTW, that caption has me wishing I could do the Popeye laugh…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions

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