minor lines, 6/6/10
by steve S on Jun 6, 2010 5:21 PM PDT
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PrintSunday highlights from the Giants' farm: Eugenio Velez homered twice, Tyler Graham doubled twice four hits, Evan Crawford had three XBH, and Jorge Bucardo allowed just 1 ER in 8.0 IP.
AAA: Fresno defeated Sacramento 8-6
Fresno: RF Tyler Graham: 4 for 4, 2 2B
Fresno: CF Eugenio Velez: 2 for 4, 2 HR, SO
Sacramento: 1B Dallas McPherson: 2 for 3, 2 2B, SO
Fresno: SP Matt Kinney: 5.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--2 HR
Fresno: RP Osiris Matos: 0.1 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB
Fresno: RP Waldis Joaquin: 1.2 IP, 1 BB, 3 K
Velez homered twice on fly balls to left field, his first two HRs in the PCL this year. Graham continues to remain red hot in the playing time he receives. His four hits today, including his 8th and 9th doubles, raised his AVG to .415. For the Athletics' PCL affiliate, McPherson doubled twice.
Kinney, who is susceptible to the long ball, gave up two homers but just three runs in his fourth start this year. Matos, who had a BB/IP below 0.25 last year, continues to walk more batters this year. Walking four of six batters today raised his BB/IP above 0.50. Joaquin got his second save while facing the minimum five batters in 1.2 IP (no inherited runners).
AA: Richmond lost to Trenton 10-2
(after trailing just 3-2 through five innings)
Richmond: RF Skyler Stromsmoe: 0 for 5, 4 SO
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 2 for 4, 2 SO
Richmond: C Jackson Williams: 2 for 4, 2 SO, PB
Richmond: CF Darren Ford: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Richmond: SP Ronnie Ray: 3.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
Richmond: RP Felix Romero: 3.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Richmond: RP Jake Stevens: 0.2 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Ford led off the 5th inning with his 2nd HR of the year. Gillaspie and Williams each had two hits but also two strikeouts. After hitting nearly .300 in April, Williams has since hit closer to .100 causing his AVG to fall below the Mendoza line. He had had just one hit in his previous eight game (1 for 28). He also allowed his 6th passed ball. A day after reaching base four times, Stromsmoe had the oh-fer with the sombrero.
Ray had his shortest start of the year, making his fifth start among fifteen appearances. Romero provdided effective long relief. Both Ray and Romero have ERAs above 5.50. Stevens, who had allowed only 3 ER previously this year, had his worst appearance of the season as his ERA more than doubled to 3.09.
A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 4-1
(scoring all four runs in the 1st inning)
San Jose: DH Brandon Belt: 2 for 3, 2B, BB, SB
San Jose: LF-3B Joel Weeks: 1 for 2, 2B, BB, SO
San Jose: SP Justin Fitzgerald: 5.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 5 BB, 5 K
San Jose: RP Brian Anderson: 2.2 IP, 1 H, 1 K
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Bakersfield: SP Wilmer Font: 5.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 7 K--1 HB
After entering the day with a .494 OBP, Belt got his OBP a little closer to an even .500 as he reached base in three of four plate appearances. He also gathered his 12th SB. Weeks, a utility bench player, was one of two other Giants to reach base twice.
Fitzgerald surpassed last Sunday's season-high 3 BB with a new season-high 5 BB, leaving his K/BB barely above 2.00. Nonetheless, he improved his W-L record to 5-0 and lowered his ERA to 2.09 through ten starts. Anderson's eighth appearance was his longest this year. Stoffell pitched a perfect 9th inning for his 11th save. Font, who began the season ranked by Baseball America as the Rangers #10 prospect, made his fourth Cal League start. He took the loss with four unearned runs aftering allowing just 1 ER in 14.0 over his past two starts.
A-: Augusta defeated Greenville 8-1
Augusta: 2B Ryan Cavan: 3 for 5, SO
Augusta: CF Evan Crawford: 3 for 4, 3B, 2 2B
Augusta: SP Jorge Bucardo: 8.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 K
Crawford has had an odd array of XBH in his first full pro season. After three XBH today, he now has 1 HR, 8 triples, and 4 doubles as part of a .257/.325/.364 line (through 214 AB). Cavan also had three hits, raising his AVG to .268.
Bucardo has been on a role. After a 1.26 ERA in six May starts, he allowed just 1 ER in his longest start of the year, lowering his season ERA to 1.87. Today he had a 12/6 GO/FO line.
DSL: The Gigantes had their usual Sunday off-day
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Viva Bucardo!
He’s great when he keeps his BBs down.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
WOW!!!
that’s his 5th 7+ IP game of the year
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 6, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
As usually happens, his older bro was holding him back .
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I read in BA
That the best part of signing Wilbur was that it allowed the Giants to sign Jorge
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is Brandon Belt limited to 1B, or can he also play some OF?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 6, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions
He wouldn’t be lost in RF/LF, and he does have the arm for RF. With his above-average speed I would assume that he could play at least average D there.
But, he’s a plus defender at 1B now, so they are loathe to move him off the bag.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
He was an outfielder originally, and he says he could move off of first if needed. But he’s not likely to be needed to move off of there for a while.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 6, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, move off of 1B to toe the rubber! LOL
You’re right, but he was also a promising relief pitcher when he signed with Texas, but he quickly fell out of love with pitching during his first season there.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
It wasn’t that he fell out of love. He had recurring shoulder problems, and so the decision was made to give up pitching.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 7, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Saying Matt Kinney is susceptible to the long ball is like saying Bengie is susceptible to eating food.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I’m high on Bucardo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Also Brandon Belt is getting boring. Yawn, 2 hits and a walk or two a day with a double. Whatever!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOLHalama
John Halama didn’t exactly make his case for a return to the majors today.
He not only gave up both HRs to Velez today (hitting from the right side no less), but he surrendered Brock Bond’s 1st HR of the season. Does that mean Halama is susceptible to the long ball?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Hey now, he’s tied his previous season high now…with one.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 7, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Was it inside the park last time?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
No, though that’d be appropriate.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 7, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Report fromTrenton
It was, for the most part, worse than the 10-2 score would indicate. Romero, for example, provided “effective relief” only in the sense that a high percentage of the rockets hit off of him went right at people. Ray looked bad but the pitchers who followed were hit harder. It would have been worse but for two great picks at first by LaTorre (one on a batted ball headed for the right field corner at warp speed). The passed ball on Williams was a joke. From my angle, it was incredible he got close to snagging it as it sailed past high and outside. He did a beautiful job blocking balls in the dirt and threw out a runner who got a good jump. Ford showed a very strong arm, although in one case it was by hitting Jackson on the fly on a pointless play at the plate while the runner strolled to second because no infielder had a chance of cutting it off. His home run was a high fly ball perfectly placed to ride the 20 mph. to 30 mph wind from right to left. It barely cleared the fence in left center and wasn’t nearly as well hit as a couple of the doubles, especially Neal’s. Neal also hit a long line drive to center — unlike Gillaspie, he did not look badly fooled when he struck out. Gillaspie and Crawford both fielded and threw well. If fact, everyone fielded well given the tough conditions but that was the only aspect of the team that was watchable. Belt can’t get there fast enough as far as I’m concerned. One interesting tidbit — Ray switched to the number listed in the program as EME’s. I wonder if it was some kind of tribute. Or perhaps it was a recognition that he’s not far from the same fate. Where is GB when we need him?
We released EME for Skyler Stromsmoe?
I know EME is probably just minor league filler at this point, but man, for Skyler freaking Stromsmoe?
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EME was released so he could take his chances with another organization that might have a better plan for him. It happens a lot.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 7, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, that's good for the kid
Uncle Sabes does have a heart of gold
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
EME needed to be with an AL team to even have a shot.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Jun 7, 2010 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, LOL Dallas McPherson
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Who is Jose Flores?
And how am I just now hearing of hiim. His numbers at SJ are absurd.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
He’s this year’s Jesus Guzman – good hitter, no glove.
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According to who?
When he was here in SK it was exactly the opposite, all glove and no bat.
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Really, prior to this current stretch, he’s been a pretty anemic hitter at every stop thus far in his minor league career.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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Belt and Bucardo
With Neal and Kieschnick struggling so far this year, do Belt and Bucardo jump into the top tier of Giants prospects based on their success so far this season, or is it too early to call. I would say they have to be considered top ten at this point, and considering Posey’s accent to the majors and Wheeler’s erratic beginning, could even be in the top five.
Also, this seems like the first day in a month where I haven’t seen Charlie Culberson listed in the highlights. Is this month an aberration or has he perhaps figured it out and is now ready to play like the high draft pick he was. And Tyler Graham – decent stats throughout his minor league career. Is he possibly a late bloomer?
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by crazedcrustacean on Jun 6, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions
Charlie certainly deserves credit for his improvement on his Augusta campaigns so far, but it’s worth noting that he’s also striking out in over 20% of his ABs and is currently sitting with a 42/8 K/BB. So “figured it out” might not be the perfect description. But keep working Charlie, he’s still just 21.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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Granted, Culberson isn’t walking at all, but his power increase is a welcome change. At least he’s doing SOMETHING. He’s posting the best average and iso power numbers of his career. Can we attribute that to A+ being a hitter’s league, or should we call this a step in the right direction for his career?
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by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 6, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The power could be attributed to the California League, but the contact wouldn’t be. I’d call it a right step.
Still a long way to go, but contact is a start.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 7, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
But he hasn’t actually improved his contact. Last year he struck out once in every 5.07 PA, this year he’s striking out at almost the exact same rate, once every 5.17 PA.
So really the power numbers ARE the improvement for his this year. Nothing else. And they could well be a Cal League mirage. I’d like to hope not, because I’d still like to see something other than Bumgarner come out of that bonanza of picks, but I’m not counting on it.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Well, there’s contact, and then there’s good contact.
He’s hitting line drives, which is improving the BABIP, and he’s not hitting the weak ground balls that are easily fielded. According to minor league splits, his line drive percentage has doubled (albeit, this is a subjective scoring system by people at the park).
I don’t know what can attribute the good contact improving without changing strikeout rates, but I plan to ask him sometime later this season.
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by BruteSentiment on Jun 7, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't see Kieschnick but
Based just on what I saw of Neal today I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t seem to be “struggling” with AA by the end of the year.
by NearestNorwich on Jun 6, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I take Belt over Kieschnick at this point; Kieschnick has the power potential, but he strikes out a ton and doesn’t walk enough. Neal v. Belt is probably pretty close; I do think I’d take Belt at this point. Neal was the same age as Belt in San Jose last year, and Belt is putting up better numbers with better defense and arguably better speed (11/7 SB/CS for Belt in two months this year versus 3/0 for Neal all of last year). If Neal’s power shows up again it’ll be closer, but Belt has certainly played very, very well and both Roger and Thomas have struggled.
Bucardo I’m not that high on; he’s still in Augusta at 20 and as a pitcher he should be dominating. He’s also thrown 57 innings so far this year, with a previous career high of 81; I’d like to see how he handles the workload before I declare him better. I’d go 1. Belt 2. Neal 3. Kieschnick 4. Bucardo right now.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
Jorge Bucardo is a beast. On occasion he evens pitches on the 5th day. A 20 yr old in Augusta is fine.
Bumgarner?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Bucardo I’m not that high on; he’s still in Augusta at 20
I feel the need to point out that Zach Wheeler is also “still in Augusta at 20”.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’d also argue somewhat with this statement:
Neal v. Belt is probably pretty close; I do think I’d take Belt at this point. Neal was the same age as Belt in San Jose last year, and Belt is putting up better numbers with better defense
Belt has indeed putting up better numbers in 235 PA than Neal did in 559 last year, but I don’t think the difference in their numbers (.498 OBP/.606 SLG vs. .431/.579) is as significant as the difference thus far in the sample size. We’d have to see if Belt can sustain this for 70 mor games to make such a claim.
Also, Neal was by all accounts an above average LF and could have played RF if not for the presence of Kieschnick. I’m not quite up on all the calculations of the current defensive matrixes but I do believe a good defensive OF is considered more productive than a very good defensive 1B, or at least is similarly valuable.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Wow, I missed that
20 is a completely appropriate age for low-A
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You’re up and posting a wee bit early aren’t you?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
i think they were just comparing those 4
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Without trying to draw too close of a comparison, I would caution against selling hitting for power short. Power is a rare enough tool that I think I’d still take Kieschnick over Belt, although I can see the argument the other way. In terms of power potential, I might encourage some to look back about what was said about Bowker when he was scuffling through his second Cal League season. I think nearly every active commenter on this board had written him off as a non-prospect.
I want to see Belt in AA
being good at A+ doesn’t mean much unless you do well at AA.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think all the guys in AA should be wearing belts
I hate how it looks when they wear their pants so low that you can see their underwear.
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pants on the ground!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always loved Graham, but he’s never had a healthy full season.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Jun 7, 2010 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a little early yet to be re-ranking prospects, but still, Belt has gotta be top ten at this point.
Bucardo’s been great, but note that Surkamp has been just as good, at a higher level. The difference between them is all BABIP.
velez homered twice
does that mean i can stop hating him?
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
YES.
yes it does.
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by The Gene Hackman on Jun 7, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Prediction: Who will Steve S be reporting on next season?
Sale!
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From Lars mouth to Gods ear!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Sale?
That’s a low price!
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