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Draft Preview

There’s just a wee bit of difference between the excitement that comes with a top-ten draft pick and the 24th pick. The last two drafts arrived with all sorts of fanfare, hype, and anticipation. The #5 pick? Why, the Giants could pick Buster Posey, Gordon Beckham, or Justin Smoak! Dwight Gooden, Dale Murphy, Mark Teixeira, and Ryan Braun were all #5 picks! Here are the ten players the Giants might pick, along with a long-winded profile of each! Draft! Draft! Draft!

The #24 pick? Meh. Terry Mulholland. Kurt Ainsworth. John Gibbons. More than half of the #24 overall picks never made the majors. Over three-quarters of the players who did make the majors didn’t even accrue a single measly win above replacement. So it’s probably best just to ignore any pick from #24 on entirely.

Star-divide

 

What ignoring a late-round pick might look like

Ah. So there is an upside. You just have to keep everything in perspective. The player the Giants draft this year is almost certainly not the next Matt Cain. Cain has already had a better career than 96% of the draft picks selected in the same slot (#25) over the past four decades.

But, you know, the draft pick could be as good as Cain. Maybe even better. That’s just science. So let’s all get our hopes up.

This FanPost does a good job breaking down the different routes the Giants can take, and it makes the argument that the Giants should stay away from high school hitters. I couldn’t agree more. The Giants should stay far, far away from high school position players. Just because the Giants couldn’t develop Tony Torcato doesn’t mean that they’ll futz up Kaleb Cowart, but the great high school success story of the current administration is Travis Ishikawa, with Nick Noonan still an unknown quantity.

Other than that, anything goes. And, heck, even if the Giants were to draft a hitter out of high school, I’d still assume he’s the next Alex Rodriguez. The lobe of my brain that’s responsible for the optimism-related endorphins is easily fooled.

Here's what some mock drafts have going to the Giants, with a link to the MLB.com draft profile in the player’s last name:

My pick? Hahaha. I’m just a nerd. But I did watch every Draft Report video on MLB.com, and I came away with two concrete observations: a) I really, really like Cam Bedrosian’s 45-second video, and b) I think this kid has watched a Tim Lincecum start or two. I kind of want him in the second round because of his pitching motion alone.

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He does have a pretty long stride towards home.

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by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 6:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I actually think he looks pretty good, at least mechanics-wise. Sign me up.

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by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 4, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by bondslegend on Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hold on to your Buckle(s)!

I love Buckle. He just finished an awesome year at his HS north of L.A. –
W/L=10-1, WHIP= .61, BB/9= 1.94, K/9= 14.4, and K/BB= 7.4!!!!

He’s still growing (should end up around 6’3", 180 lb.) and he knows how to pitch – check out the Q & A interview that he had just recently:
http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/05/25/cody-buckel-qa/#more-6645

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

ladies and gentleman

we have a new lincecum. “BUT HEEZ TOO SHORT AND HAS A WEERD WINDUP!”

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by bondslegend on Jun 4, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

So signing bonus . . .

based on last year, will be about $1.4MM. Wouldn’t that money be better invested in a Caribbean baseball academy?

But I suppose we should count ourselves lucky as even having the pick instead of being Tucker-ed out of it by BS.

by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Jun 4, 2010 6:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Don’t we have enough $$$ to do both? It doesn’t have to be an either/or propisition.

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like my bachelor party.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hookers and blow.

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by bgunn on Jun 4, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Signs Tucker again

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by DrStankus on Jun 4, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you’re allowed to be as optimistic as you want on draft day.

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by rotorueter on Jun 4, 2010 6:41 AM PDT reply actions  

MLB Bonus Baby and Mel Kiper have it right

Christian Colon would be an excellent pick. I could be budged off Colon if Dick Tidrow told me he was absolutely positively without a doubt enamored by Anthony Ranaudo.

by wilriv21 on Jun 4, 2010 6:41 AM PDT reply actions  

his elbow problems worry me

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#52

by cloudydays on Jun 4, 2010 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

A RHP with elbow problems out of LSU? It would never work.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 4, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about a right hander from LSU with weight problems?

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by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

big baby plays baseball?

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about a leadoff hitter out of LSU?

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about an explorer out of LSU?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 4, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who was that guy who played at LSU with Shaq who was even fatter

Stanley Roberts-I think

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaquille actually wasn’t fat when he played for LSU. 7-1, 286. Practically slender.

by taliesin on Jun 4, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct. That team was beastly. Also had super scoring PG Chris Jackson, who later became Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you can get a World Series MVP in exchange, amirite?

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jun 4, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, I thought Grant was referring to Kurt Ainsworth. The last #24 we drafted!

They could be Giants...but not really.

by esseffgeez on Jun 4, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

you suck McBain!

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by Giant Voodoo on Jun 4, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve recently soured on Ranaudo. I just don’t see that we’d be able to sign him when he has the luxury of returning to LSU for what will almost certainly be a much better season.

Boras is going to insist that any team that drafts him must pay him as if he was a #2 or #3 pick (like $6-7M), and even then the negotiations will be drawn out to the last possible minute.

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

He hasn’t really rebounded well enough coming back from his injury for me to be willing to invest the #24 pick in him.

Also, IMO he would’ve been a good candidate for a draft and follow pick…but now that process is dead.

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Draft and follow was usually for JC players.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

but IIRC it was also used for injured guys who would throw over the summer, so the team could evaluate them.

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andy Seiler has him going to Boston at #20.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love Colon, but I can’t see any possible way he’s going to be on the board. I’d frankly be surprised if he’s not a top 10 pick, much less dropping all the way to 24.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Jun 4, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he's slow!

And he does coke!

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually I’ve heard he’s into meth.

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Spelling “cocaine” right would probably help.

Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.

by quincy0191 on Jun 4, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right. Too late now…

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Underwater in my freezer. (I have a large freezer)

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by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kaleb Cowart please. Michael Lorenzen at some point (not sure what round to put him in, going off of Gobrok’s mock (good mock, man!), he’s not even there), same with Jacoby Jones. Josh Sale (pronounced Sally? That won’t go over well) looks great, but probably will be gone by the time the Giants pick. Thanks for being “in this thing”, Giants. Of course, this is all based on seeing like three or four swings, so take it as Gospel.

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by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 4, 2010 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Lorenzen’s good, but he won’t make it to us in the 3rd round.

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Sale looks really good to me… I’d also be pretty happy with Austin Wilson, Christian Colon, or any pitcher Dick Tidrow falls for.

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by Smoke on the Water on Jun 4, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson is very risky, and will be almost impossible to sign away from Stanford. If he give any inkling of being able to be bought out, I cna’t see any way that he gets past the BoSox at #20.

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

KLaw has him ranked 22nd and says he hears that he might be leaning towards signing. My desire to draft Wilson basically stems from the wave of jealousy I feel everytime I see a team like the Dodgers, or the Pirates, or the Braves come into town with a young, five-tool stud OF come to town. I want one of those!

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by Smoke on the Water on Jun 4, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just read Wilson struggles with pitch recognition. Not sure if that’s the type of hitter the Giants should be drafting. If they draft a hitter he better already have that ability, since nobody with the Giants is going to teach them how to be patient at the plate. They’re going to have to do it on their own.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

i hear wilson was face-palmed on a desert island

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Jun 4, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

This I heard he has trouble hitting breaking pitches so unless he can work on that I don’t know. I kind of like Colon and I don’t think Sale is going to be around at #24

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by sanfrankid on Jun 4, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sale’s my dream pick. I agree he won’t be around. I’d also love for LaVon Washington to fall to our 2nd round pick.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Jun 4, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sale sounds like another Travis Snider. Future DH.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’ve been thinking, although I think he’ll be closer to a (post-juice) Giambi than Snyder.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really like Vettleson, but we have no shot at him.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not so fast. I think the odds are almost even that he’ll be there when we pick in round 2 (#74 overall). The question is does our braintrust think he’s worth a 2nd round pick? I don’t see any way that he’s still there when we pick in round 3.

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a top 50 prospect by BA. The only way I can see him falling to 74 is if he’s seen as someone who will be hard to sign.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Giants keep him as a switch pitcher

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of the Snider comps

are because they are both corner OF’s from Washington

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it has more to do with his plus bat but questionable body type/athleticism as he fills out.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's exactly how I feel

I wanted Donovan Tate really badly last year for those same reasons! GET ME AUSTIN WILSON GINATTS BRAZSSZ!!!

by superk1ng on Jun 4, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Giants pick Cowart

it’ll be fun to see how much they screw with the development of a “3B/RHP”.

by fiji.siv on Jun 4, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll be made into a 1B/RF, just for giggles.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try CF/LHP.

That is more our style.

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the compliment

I heard Jones will be a tough sign and I’d love to get a shot at Sale but I don’t think we have a shot-IMO he’s one of the 10 best prospects in the draft.

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

early post is early

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Jun 4, 2010 7:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't follow the MLB Draft but

I’m hoping the Giants select Jedd Gyorko.

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by 49er16 on Jun 4, 2010 7:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know if this means anything or not but he Giants flew in Gyorko on Wednesday for a workout

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by oldrips on Jun 4, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I realized the other day that the draft was fast approaching and I hadn’t thought about it at all this year

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by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Same here. Does this make me a bad person?

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its OK, you work for ESPN.

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by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s no Batman

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Silon.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or is it Cylon...

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sylar?

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mylar?

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by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

kevlar?

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by lame-o on Jun 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

BB!

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best show on TV!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

this show is fantastic.

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by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, it’s just hard to even know what’s going to be around in the late 1st compared to the early 1st

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by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

There are many other reasons for that.

Oh snap

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

HEYYY

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

HIIIIIII

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah me too

I really never know anything about the mlb draft, though. It’s hard for me to get excited when there are guys at the end of the FIRST ROUND who will never even play for their big league clubs. I’m too impatient

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by bondslegend on Jun 4, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I SWEAR TO GOD IF WE DON’T DRAFT BEAU MILLS I’M GOING TO FREAK OUT

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by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

.218/.292/.319 in AA!!!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was just checking out his stats.

LOL MILLS!

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by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

McCoven thru the years.....

2007 draft: “Mills! Mills! Mills!”
2008 draft “Smoak! Smoak! Smoak!”
2009 draft: “Matzek! Matzek! Matzek!”

by wilriv21 on Jun 4, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Smoak is probably going to be good, though! And Matzek has only thrown two games so far.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Knowing what we know now (i.e. nothing) I’d still trade Wheeler for Matzek.

I would not do the same with Bumgarner for Mills or Posey for Smoak. The latter decision is made easy when you compare defense at first.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 4, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your humor, and this site in general, makes laugh, then I realize why its funny and then I cry.

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by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

they makes laugh? Very Nice!

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by Giant Voodoo on Jun 4, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to make romance explosion

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by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey, Matzek

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I'm already batting .500 over the past two seasons

/waits fifteen years, gets 3 year deal from Sabean

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sad

I watched Mills in college, he was a beast. It was against a low level of competition, but it really seemed like he would hit 3-4 HR every weekend. His dominance at that level was insane. Obviously, it didn’t hold.

Other players drafted from that school include Marvin Bernard, Jason Ellison, and Brendan Ryan. Not exactly a laundry list of major impact bats. The pitchers were better, I think. (Keith Foulke!)

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jun 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ishikawa was a HS hitter we drafted too.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about? I’m talking about Giants draftees from Lewis-Clark State College.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jun 4, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can you say Marvin Benard wasn't an impact player?

I distinctly remember he had 3 or 4 outstanding weeks, just before he signed his outstanding contract.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems appropriate

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

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#52

by cloudydays on Jun 4, 2010 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Come back Dr. B!

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude actually posts a really good blog

With rundowns of every major and minor league games. I thoroughly recommend it.

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by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask and you shall receive

Here it is

It’s pretty dry, but a good rundown of both the majors and minors if you want to avoid the general snarkiness of McC.

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you want to avoid the general snarkiness of McC.

I don’t understand.

by taliesin on Jun 4, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wake me when we make our pick

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on Jun 4, 2010 8:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m in this line. Then I’ll look into the pick and then see who got drafted in the 5 picks after and decide if I like any of those guys more.

In these situations I trust Tidrow over my own knowledge for the most part. Unlike our GM he’s not retarded

by DFARowand on Jun 4, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're going to sleep until Monday at 4PM?

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The power of Quaaludes

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wake me up

When September comeesssss

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boooooo!

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

and it's "ends"

at least get the shitty lyrics to the shitty song right

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on Jun 4, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Figures a DeRosa would spoil my TV sports watching night

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jun 4, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Does anyone else have a little bird whispering in the thier ear:

What if Yordy Cabrera IS the next A Rod?

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

and I should have added

but he just doesn’t care about HS baseball.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, the doctor helped me kid rid of that bird.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The doctor with the big leather couch?

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, the one with the orbitoclast.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are evil.

I had to google that and it was not pleasant.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wow. I should have heeded your warning.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5014080

Actually a fascinating listen…

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s messed up.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

but his name is Yordy

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

but his last name is cabrera

by GameSix on Jun 4, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

He can’t be the next ARod since he doesn’t play good enough D to start at SS at any level above los-A ball. Don’t forget, ARod started half his career at SS in the majors – and he had above-average D.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

HE’S NO JETER!

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

los-A = low-A……d’ohhh.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

DNW Yordy Cabrera

20 yr old HS’ers? No thanks

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of people go to highschool for 6 years!

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to the sekind grayde for thre yers.

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well FWIW I think Cabrera is that old because he defected from Cuba

so maybe he started his education process late

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Colon falls. Can you imagine the butt pee references? Or the Caught Stealing calls? “Buster hits Colon perfectly”

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Are there any Procello types this year?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jun 4, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

That is

Players who are going to drop because of bonus demands.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jun 4, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jun 4, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

mahahaha

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.

by delorean on Jun 4, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

RIMSHOT

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on Jun 4, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yo-yo Man!

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes ther are

Mostly these are guys that have football/baseball scholarships with major college teams:

1. Austin Wilson (baseball scholarship to Stanford)
2. Zach Lee (football schol. to LSU)
3. Kaleb Cowart (baseball schol. to FSU – he also wants to play football)
4. Anthony Ranaudo (Boras client that got injured and teams are afraid he’ll want way over-slot)
5. Tyrell Jenkins (football schol. to Baylor)

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Baylor

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah really

Surely playing football at Baylor can’t be too tempting. The Giants usually win…. 80 more games than the Baylor Bears.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

He chose Baylor because they agreed to let him stay at QB – most bigger schools wanted him, but ony as a WR/safety. He really wants to be a QB, hence the difficulty in signing.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baylor’s actually building some solid programs in both Basketball and Football….

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basketball, sure.

But football? Heh, not in that conference. Unless there’s realignment. Baylor is a doormat.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doormat sure, but they’ve been recruiting better lately. I still think had Singletary gone there they would have been better off though.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Briles has a good system for college though

Especially with a healthy Robert Griffin

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed. Griffin should help them get around .500 this year.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

played against this dude my junior year in the state 7 on 7 tournament, my friend also competed against him at regionals in the hurdles.

dude is fast.

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.

by atxgiantsfan on Jun 4, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

But they took a bunch of money and all I got was this lousy degree.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than a t-shirt.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I got one of those too

I hung it up on my window to block out the sun.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your mom lets you decorate your own room? Wow, she’s nicer than mine. LOL

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, my room when I was at school

I have blinds that block all the sunlight at home.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another guy to add to Fla-Giant's list

AJ Cole-RHP-HS (Florida). Came into the year rated as the #2 prep arm but he has had an inconsistent spring, but still wants to get PAID (not that I blame him)

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL ME

When I opened that video for Cody Buckel I didn’t realize that there was an underarmor commercial first. I was thinking, “Hey this is some high production value. I wonder if his agent put this together.”

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

“Is his house under attack, or something?”

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on Jun 4, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing about that video is the ball that dude hits looks like a popout.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs ones that got away NL West (active players)

San Francisco

Best positional player: J.D. Drew (1994: Round 20, Pick 564)

Best pitcher: Brad Lidge (1995: Round 42, Pick 1,167)

AND LOL Dodgers

Los Angeles

Best positional player: Chase Utley (1997: Round 2, Pick 76)
Best pitcher: David Price (2004: Round 19, Pick 568).

by DFARowand on Jun 4, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

To be fair, J.D. Drew was basically unsignable for us back then. Remember that he spurned the Phillies and played Indy Ball until the following year’s draft.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Indy Ball"

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL – nicley played!

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well played Mauer

01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey

Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.

by sanfrankid on Jun 4, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amy Gutierrez AmyGGiants
  
It’s official- #sfgiants call up Pat Burrell from Fresno. Burrell will wear #9

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Injury? No more TI?

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jun 4, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is this supposed to be an improvement?

Burrell for Bowker?

I read somewhere that DeRosa is likely to go to the 60 day DL. My belief is that this Sabean’s makeup call for the signing of DeRosa. I really believe that he thinks he can save himself if Burrell hits 15 HR this season for league minimum.

So much fail.

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jun 4, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Burrell bats right.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jun 4, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

He should be able to hit 15 HR in 400-500 at bats.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

EAT SHIT AND DIE

Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.

Refocused on baseball. Sharks hockey: torture.

by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

mad love, really. but if he gets 450 ab’s, i’m going to hit something. hard.

Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.

Refocused on baseball. Sharks hockey: torture.

by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there even time left in the season to get 450 PAs with the Giants?

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

By God, they’re gonna give it the old college try.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the housetops to the gutters
From the ocean to the shore
The warning signs have all been bright and garish
Far too great in number to ignore

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Jun 4, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope that our few remaining friends
Give up on trying to save us

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will walk down to the end with you / If you will come all the way down with me

Seems somehow very apropos of the Giants management.

And yes, I’m comparing our relationship to the team to a meth fueled destructive marriage.

God damn it.

Now I’m going to be listening to Tallahassee for the next couple hours.

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

After groug’s post I sadly realized it’s not currently on my ipod.

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also just checked my computer and am currently downloading it.

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoot, now I want to listen to it and think about how it relates to Giants fandom.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is probably one of the most depressing records recorded in the 00s

Off the top of my head, only Blood Money puts me in a similarly downer mood.

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

hospice

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck

I gotta listen to Hospice again. I was unimpressed my first couple listens, but people seem to love that album like oxygen.

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

reading the lyrics and getting really absorbed in them helps

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that album so much but I get so depressed when I listen to it.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabean, put your head back in the oven…

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve had Two stuck in my head for weeks.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Jun 4, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonderful Life – SparkleHorse

Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.

by oldjacket on Jun 4, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap

The cafe I’m working in just put on Elliott Smith. Either / Or breaks my god damn heart.

God damn it, I was in a fucking good mood this morning.

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

MATT CAIN IS LIKE A CYCLONE IN THE SWAMP, AND THE WEATHER’S GETTING WARMER

Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.

by oldjacket on Jun 4, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Burrell really is a bench player, yes

We needed a RHH with pop, especially since The Stinking Rose hasn’t worked out as planned

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burell was meh in Pitt but awesome in Cincy

PNC .264/.347/.437
GAB .312/.404/.610

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on Jun 4, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
The Stinking Rose

That could apply to Edgarlic, too.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey!

i work a block and a half from there!

Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.

Refocused on baseball. Sharks hockey: torture.

by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he plays 1B? Huff stays in LF?

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burrell will catch the first couple of games, just to get his feet wet.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 4, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I see. So Bengie would go out to LF and Huff at 1B.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

RANGE!

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speed doesn't equal defense guyz!!!!!!!

Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.

Refocused on baseball. Sharks hockey: torture.

by beat_la_25 on Jun 7, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

getting him ready for all the dingers.exe in Cincinatti

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jun 4, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

“dingers.exe is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.”

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

it only runs on the new iPhone.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jun 4, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Giants got their i-Phone with the unlimited data plans.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

AT&T called and said they aren’t giving out unlimited data plans anymore. Oh and we want a discount on the naming rights to the park.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jun 4, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

AT&T Called and said...

They would give the Giants free (refurbished) original i-Phones with discounted data plans in lieu of naming rights.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants responded….fix the damn 3G in SF first.

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jun 4, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

what's that?

It works sometimes.

"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Jun 4, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Per a Mr. Sabean, each phone has been loaded with iTire our new tire kicking app. At the end of the day it allows you to track your due diligence!”

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s dingers.ipa

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that one, but I prefer dingers.imperialporter on a colder day.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jun 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t usually, but when I do, I prefer dingers.dosX

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s off the 40 man?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 4, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Velez baby!

He has dropped the last flyball for the Giants hopefully. Now it’s Burrell’s turn.

/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism

by Scooter Ellis on Jun 4, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Velez Lewis baby!
He has dropped the last flyball for the Giants hopefully. Now it’s Burrell’s Velez’s turn.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Number Nine?

TURN ME ON DEAD MAN

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?

by tobias on Jun 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

HEY GUISE I HERD DUSTIN ACKLEY SMOKES CRACK

maybe he’ll fall to us now

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Son, there hasn't been a draft in 20 years

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

There was one?

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

Stephen Curry is the future.
We need to save this planet. Go Green, recycle, ride public transportation, use cantines. Anything you can do!

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 4, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dear GINATZ BRASZS!!!

Draft somebody good.

My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.

by goGSW24 on Jun 4, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

THIS

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

/sabean drafts random merkin valdez clone

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jun 4, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

MY PEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS!!!!

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

/tall, projectable right-hander

by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 4, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

/sabean drafts random merkin valdez clone

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Jun 4, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barret Loux

Heads-up. Barret Loux (RHP – Texas A&M) is on ESPNU right now. So far he’s given up 1 run on 4 hits, 5 Ks and 1 BB, and his team is leading Florida International 8-1.

Loux is a possibe target of ours with our #24 pick.

Keep an eye out on the ESPN channels the next 3 days, because the first round NCAA regionals just started. Many of the highly-ranked college draft prospects will be playing this weekend.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Willet (spell?) the kid with the 52 game hitting streak is hitless in his first 2 ABs.

If you’re a FIU fan then you can seek solace in the fact that this week is a double-elimination regional.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be Wittles

The kid Wittels got a double to RC off of Loux in the bottom of the 6th. He’s now hit in 55 straight games

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manny Machado's future school!

I can’t figure out why he committed there, I mean wouldn’t committing to Miami give him more leverage?

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry to tell you, FIU is down by a score of 12-2 in the top of the 8th. Only 2 more innings of at bats for them left.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you pronounce "Loux"?

Is it like “LOO”?
Or “LOWKS”?
Or “LUKES”?

I just hope it’s not “LOSE

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?

by tobias on Jun 4, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just heard it pronounced for the 1st time. It’s Lowcks – where the ow is pronounced like, “Ow, I cut my finger.”

For the past 2 weeks I’ve been pronouncing it Loo. LOL

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now I’m confused.

The ESPN announcer has been pronouncing it Lowcks, but Kyle Peterson has been pronouncing it Lawcks (as in, “Aw, shucks”).

Who to believe? I’m going to have to go with the Stanford grad – who has most likely spent time tlaking with the A&M players and Loux.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Byrnes sighting

ESPN has Eric Byrnes doing color commentary, along with Kyle Peterson, for the Texas A&M vs. FIU game. He’s been surprisingly good. He and Peterson have gotten a lot of face time because FIU has changed pitchers 4 times.

During one of the pitching changes Byrnes and Peterson told a funny story about playing a game as Freshmen in the Pac 10 (Peterson was a pitcher at Stanford, Byrnes an OF at UCLA). First time on base Byrnes slides into 2nd base with his spikes high. The Stanford 2B (Brian Dallimore) tells Byrnes to knock it off and to watch out in his next AB. The next time Byrnes gets up, Peterson nails him in the butt. Byrnes proceeds to charge out into the field, but he runs past Peterson and heads for Dallimore! His own 1B coach tackled him before he got much past the mound. So, Byrnes was nuts even before he made it to the majors.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is awesome. I love these crazy stories.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dallimore and Peterson were the two biggest loudmouths I’ve ever played against. So obnoxious.

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s surprising, because Peterson always comes off as a quiet and buttoned-up intellectual. I guess it’s true – dont judge a book by it’s cover.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

;-)

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL BYRNES

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 4, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, there goes my lunch.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 4, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

/flagged

Rollerblades? Really?

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He never did learn to mind his surroundings.

The Magic is inside all of us.
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by ResDog on Jun 4, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

A guy I know from Chicago

got super-drunk one night and got a 5″×3″ tattoo on his shoulder blade of Batman’s face and cowl. But not just any Batman. He specifically requested Michael Keaton, pursed lips and all. His (again, drunken) theory was that, as Keaton lives in Chicago, this guy would inevitably run into him, have him sign by the tattoo, and get the signature tattooed on as well.

He’s still waiting.

(Personally, I’d have gone with a full backpiece of this:)

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s no Boba Fett.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Dallimore!

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got my heart set on Colon now.

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s a weird setting for your heart. What’s pumping blood now?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 4, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t ask me, it’s a George Harrison song.

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

that would have been a marginally better joke if I had written “I’ve got my mind set on Colon”

oh well.

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its gonna take time
A whole lot of precious time
Its gonna take patience and time, ummm
To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it,
To do it right child

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

It’s gonna take MONEY
A whole lot of spending money
It’s gonna take plenty of money, ummm
To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it,
To do it right child

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?

by tobias on Jun 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is your colon set on Corey Hart?

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 5, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wear my sun-don’t-shine glasses at night.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Jun 5, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the completionists:

The Pirates haven’t been very good in a while, but they always seem to whomp on the Giants in PNC Park.

Hitter to watch

Andrew McCutchen. Have I mentioned that I like watching him play.

Pitcher to watch

Brian Burres! Also, Carlos Villanueva. Maybe Jon Coutlangus. You sold us out, Giants brass!

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 4, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Laurel-resting! J'accuse!

Grant is coasting on the job he did mod’ing the dominating Cain start the other night.

And the Pirates put the b_a_d in bland.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where did the l and n come from?

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 4, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Littlefield traded Jason Schmidt and Aramis Ramirez for them.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jun 4, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

MoLiNa.

The Giants and Pirates are working together to drive down interest in this series, you see. It’s heartwarming, really; the Capulets and Montagues of suck joining forces.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So with two LHP in a row

What are the odds Burrell starts both games?

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

100%

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vegas isn’t even taking bets on this, thats how much of a lock it is.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coutlangus

Almost a really cool name!

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Draft Preview:24 could be lucky for Giants by MLB.com

First-round buzz:
The general feeling is that the Giants, who have selected pitchers with eight of their last nine first-round picks, will go in the other direction and take a hitter this time. Possibilities include outfielder Brian Ragira from Martin (Texas) High School, third baseman/right-hander Kaleb Cowart from Cook County (Ga.) High, outfielder/right-hander Brett Eibner from Arkansas and third baseman Nick Castellanos from Archbishop McCarthy High School in Davie, Fla.

by wilriv21 on Jun 4, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Hmm

Like Cowart & Castellanos

Meh on Eibner

DNW Ragira

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

After watching the way the front office has screwed up young talent over the years, how can you even look forward to draft day? “Oh look the day some young man’s dreams begin to die.”

I’m sorry I used be interested, now I just don’t want to watch.

Don't get it?
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by Merope on Jun 4, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

John Barr seems to have done a pretty good job…it’s once the players get into the organization that we should worry. I just hope that some of the kids we draft will be able to overcome those obstacles and become good players on their own merit.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Sabean’s Twitter, he seems to have his eye on the prize, though:

Reviewing menu for catering spread at this Monday’s draft call.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That must be code for, “Me wants some toolsy, raw centerfielders!”

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Updated:

Brian Sabean’s twitter:

Happy with the menu. Mexican over Szechuan. Latter sounded too risky. At the end of the day, go with the known quantity. BS

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've cracked the code!

We’re picking a latino player over the asian-american everybody was expecting us to grab.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Less inscrutable now:
My first #FollowFriday — Good Soldiers: @1behindthemask @hankschulman @extrabaggs @amyGGiants @SFgiants BS

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things shall be better soon!

/Sabes re-signs Bengie to a 2 year deal.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 4, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’ve done well lately: Lincecum, Bumgarner, Posey, Wheeler.

by Dan from NM on Jun 4, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Picking in the top 10 helps though :D

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It helps, but it’s not a guarantee – look at how many picks in the top 10 that the Pirates have had in the past 15 years.

One thing that he Giants have done well is recognize their strengths – picking and developing pitchers.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Pirates problem in the past was that they went with the cheapest option and often reached for players that weren’t true top 10/top 5 talents.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. So the Giants deserve credit for not doing that, in my mind.

by Dan from NM on Jun 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Daniel Moskos

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slightly OT

I’m sure this was discussed already, but Scott Atchison sighting last night. I LOL’d.

Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.

Refocused on baseball. Sharks hockey: torture.

by beat_la_25 on Jun 4, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

OT: Unintentional sfgiants.com humor
The Giants open a series Friday in Pittsburgh, where second baseman Freddy Sanchez thought he would end his career before being traded to San Francisco last season.

LOL rescued from the brink of retirement.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

He still might end his career there. A giant anvil might fall on his Saturday night.

Don't get it?
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by Merope on Jun 4, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please refrain from using the word AnVil for now.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeez I knew Villalona was bulking up but you don't need mock his size

/smiley face

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Giants draft someone with a funny name.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

What if they draft someone with a Norwegian name?

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 4, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would be an improper use of HERITAGE!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on Jun 4, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

but still funny though, right?

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Jun 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was funny afterward

It typically is.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I abuse my heritage constantly

This morning, in fact.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may finally get a heritage night!

Make it so.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

C – Giuseppe Chiaramonte
1B – Turtle Zaun
2B – Van Fixico
3B – James Snoots
SS – Monico Corral
OF – Sylvester Love
OF – Reuben Smiley
OF – Wynter Phoenix

P – Boof Bonser
P – Kavonski Chatman
P – Everhard Griffiths
P – Harlan Highfill
P – Skip Pitlock

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 4, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol "Everhard"

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s this pitcher? Is he Everhard?

The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.

by ResDog on Jun 4, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, he’s hardly ever.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess his dad didn’t heed to the warning on the bottle.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Jun 4, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must mean his great grandfather. If not, then Pitlock must have been born last year. My grandfather was born in 1901. My great great grandfather was born in 1838. Do the math.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, if your grand father is 109 years old, then everyone’s must be!

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your Great Grandfather was 62/63 when he had your Grandfather?

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, my great great grandfather was 62 when my grandfather was born. My great grandfather was almost 30 when his son (my grandfather) was born.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am my own grandpa

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

62?

So your family essentially skipped a generation (or arguably two). That would make them a rather extreme outlier, I would imagine.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check your math and your english.

My great great grandfather is my gandfather’s grandfather. It’s not strange for a grandfather to have a grandson at the age of 62.

great great grandfather born in 1838
great GF born in 1867, when my great great GF was 29.
grandfather born in 1901, when my great GF was 33 and my great great GF was 62.
mother born in 1935, when my gf was 34, and my great GF would have been 67.
I was born in 1960, when my mom was 25, and my GF was 59.

Get the timeline?

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did misread you, true.

But your math is hardly blowing me away either.

Theoretically:
A 10-year-old newsie in 1920 was born in 1910. (G-G-GF)
At age 20 (1930), he has a son (G-GF).
At age 20 (1950), he has a son (GF).
At age 20 (1970), he has a son (F).
At age 20 (1990), he has a son who would be just about draft age… now.

Now, I’ll concede that five generations in a row having kids at the tender age of twenty is… unlikely. But it’s hardly inconceivable, and I doubt it’s much less likely than a family with an average reproduction age of 30+.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was born in 1960, when my mom was 25, and my GF was 59.

Wow, your girfriend is older than your mom? That’s kinda kinky.

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coogah!

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robbin’ the cradle to the max! LOL

You can call me Bochy, Jr., ’cause I like me some gritty, gamey vets.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Giants commercial!

Wilson: Dude, is that your 109 year old girlfriend? Hawt.

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 5, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Winner

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love draft day. It’s my favorite baseball day of the year, and I’m not kidding. I watch draft videos for months, read every mock draft I can, subscribe to BA and ESPN for draft coverage, etc.

There’s just so much art and strategy and uncertainty involved. I find it fascinating. And once it’s over, you get to watch these players careers unfold.

by Dan from NM on Jun 4, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Or in the case of Giants positional players, be deconstructed.

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, prospect watching in general is a fun thing and the draft is just a big extension to that since once players are drafted they become prospects.

I love looking at my BA Prospect Handbooks from like 8 years ago and seeing who became legit and who didn’t. Or who came out of nowhere. :) I just read up on Affeldt the other day. 2002 Prospect Handbook.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buster Posey now has a higher career BA than Will Clark

So I was in Maui and haven’t seen any of Buster’s ABs since the call up. No walks and only 1 SO? I know it’s a SSS, but how has he looked? Is he hitting the ball with authority?

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I missed the last couple games but the ones I saw, even though he wasn’t drawing walks, he was having patient ABs and not swinging at many balls. That approach will definitely lead to walks down the line.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buster is 2nd on the team

(behind Tim Lincecum) in GB% at 66.7%. He has swung at 31% of pitches outside the strike zone, and has remarkably made contact every time.

by D4P on Jun 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most have been hit hard. 1 or 2 of his hits were kinda seeing eye singles/semi bloops. My guess is the walks will come eventually. They are starting to for Heyward.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please Lord, bless us with this:

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on Jun 4, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Amen

Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.

by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Just googled the dude… here’s a blogpost about him.

There’s a YouTube embed of an AB of his there, too. I am not a fan of that stance, but if it gives him power in the bigs, I’ll shut right up.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Signability and unpredictable Draft stock

Are also factors. I hope we get lucky and snag him.

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on Jun 4, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not a fan of that stance, but if it gives him power in the bigs, I’ll shut right up

Why wait?

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by Goofus on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

FRED!!!

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought too!

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The original picture is Fred

I just swapped heads LOL

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL HEAD

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Reference Software

Does anyone on the board dig endnote? My work is making me shift over from Bookends, and god damn it’s painful.

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by grape on Jun 4, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Never used Bookends,

but I use Endnote all the time. Works fine, though I can’t really compare it to anything else.

by D4P on Jun 4, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Can you go google scholar searches on it?

Shit’s annoying me to no end now.

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by grape on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure what you mean

I’ve never used Endnote to actually perform searches on Google Scholar or any other database.

However: when you search databases for reports and articles, you can usually export the citations and abstracts into your Endnote library file.

by D4P on Jun 4, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Both Bookends and Endnote have the ability to do online searches in their programs, but I’ve found the accuracy is much better with Bookends. Also, I’m doing a lot of grey literature which google scholar catches and pub med / WoS doesn’t.

I just hate having to switch programs and am bitching for no reason.

At least I’m listening to some sweet Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings.

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by grape on Jun 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NOOZ!
AmyGGiants #sfgiants Medders was outrighted. He has 10 days to clear waivers, then has choice to become free agent or take assignment from giants.

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Good Riddance

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am surprised and ok with this.,

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

thank goodness, i mean, he hasn’t really done too much this year at all

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s done plenty; that’s the problem.

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s done plenty of damage, thats the problem. What’s worse is he managed to give up 7 runs in 1 garbage time inning, EPIC FAIL.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 4, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

I fucking HATE Medders. Giants actually made a sensible move for once.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLINEUP

Torres RF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Huff LF
Posey 1B
Rowand CF
Whiteside C
the other Sanchez P

Burrell on bench.

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 4, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I would have loved to see Posey catching in this game.

LOVED

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by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least he gets to play even with Burrell on the team!

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by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buster Posey DFA’d

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by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

D:

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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 4, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

lack of power made him a bad fit for the giants

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i mean… Eli’s hitting .291 with 3 homers and an ops of .871 which isn’t TOOOOOO bad at all

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d much rather have him in the line up than molina, he’s 5 times as fast as him and actually looks for a pitch instead of hacking blindly.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus he’s not too bad defensively

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally think he’s a much better defender than bengie, and his effort level is something bengie never came close to in his entire career. Did I mention he has a funtioning arm and moves to block pitches?

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I am jaded against Bengie but

it seems to me that Eli does a much bettter job of framing the pitches and gets a lot more strike calls on borderline pitches.

by nofreetime on Jun 4, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's a really good observation

I agree with you 100%, I thought that was just my disregard for bengie but sine you point it out, its correct.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 5, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about Buster at C, Huff at 1B and Molina DFA’d.

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why even DFA him? Just straight up release him and say good riddance and thanks for propsect blocking.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about do whatever action that makes him not on the Giants. A catapult perhaps?

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The catapult would break before it was able to release, we should just attach him to a rocket ship and pray it can get into orbit.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it’s cold as hell
And there’s no one there to raise them if you did
And all this science I don’t understand
It’s just my job five days a week
A rocket man, a rocket man

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I think it’s gonna be a long long time
‘Til touchdown brings me ’round again to find
I’m not the man they think I am at home
Oh no no no, I’m a rocket man

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is Major Molina to ground control, I’m stepping through the door
And I’m floating in a most peculiar way
And the stars look very different today
Here am I floatin’ ‘round my tin can far above the world
Planet Earth is blue and there’s nothing I can do

The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.

by SF Pete on Jun 4, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is ground control to major Tubbs, you’ve haven’t made the grade
And the papers want to know the size of shirts you wear
Now it’s time to leave the Giants if you dare

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did they get you to trade
Young prospects for vets
With wrists made of cheese
Hot air from Big Money
Fred Lewis for change
Did you exchange
Your best shot at October
For a gamer and a sage…

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

/bork moves huff down in the line up for lack of good swings

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem isn’t Huff, really. It’s not ridiculous to have Uribe hitting fourth. But Bochy won’t move Sandoval out of the 3rd spot; he should be swapping Pablo and Huff.

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

I don’t understand how all us mccoven see this bright as day… yet bork is more lost than aaron rowand against eric gagne in his “prime”.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it aint broke

Wait, it is broke…

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by grape on Jun 4, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey 1B
Rowand CF
Whiteside C

What. The. Fuck.

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by ResDog on Jun 4, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude catches No and One Hitters

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

789

= 5 pitch inning for zach duke

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I hands down expected Burrell to be starting tonight.

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would have been somewhat ok with it if Posey = C and Huff = 1B

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn't burrell an outfielder too?

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

On this team he is outfield/1B probably.

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not bad, also a pinch hitter

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL BURRELL!

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 4, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

First Bowker

Nate is next.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jun 4, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

As did I, I was convinced he was going to be the starting LF and the 4 or 5 hitter. I guess that shows how much faith giants fans have in bochys brain.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

OT: LOLS

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

wtf LOl, where did you find this gem?

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was from the 7th inning stretch at LOLCAT night at the Mariners.

Pic stolen from Deadspin

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh LOL that cat bobble head night they had, wtf was that about anyway?

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the second year in a row they have done that.

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was about convincing people to come to the ballpark.

Lookout Landing is by far the biggest Mariner fansite, and they loves them some LOLcats over there.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

poor lookout landing

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by jponry on Jun 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do they hate it so much?

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

More importantly; how can they hate it at all?

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because it’s gimmicky and lame is what I’m guessing they would tell you.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s lame at all (but I like LOLcats). Bobblehead night is itself a gimmick though.

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gimmicky gimmick is gimmicky.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worst advice ever?

I just read Grant’s pre-2008 Draft thread that he linked to above. Here’s what the poster FairWeatherFan posted just 2 years ago:

the Giants probably should have traded Lincecum for infield prospects ASAP to satisfy positional scarcity.

Is he/she still posting at MC?

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

probably lolchasm

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would hope so, that's BIGTIME LOLCHASM

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I didn’t take that quote out of context. FairWeather was completely serious.

The discussion was on whether we should take the best player available (BPA) (Smoak, Alonzo), over a player that filled an extreme organizational need (Buster Posey). FairWeather answered that he would go with BPA, but then the organization had to be ready to trade away our surplus players while they were still in the minors (in this case our surplus was in SPs). He said that we should trade away Lincecum while he was still in the minors for a power-hitting corner infielder.

In his defense, he did say that we couldn’t trade Lincecum at the time, because the SF fans had fallen in love with him and they would revolt if we traded Lincecum.

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by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hindsight being what it is makes that sentence appear far stupider now than it was then.

Timmy had yet to win either of his Cy Young Awards; he’d only technically cleared a full season in the bigs, so all we knew for sure was his meteoric rise through the minors. If we could’ve gotten some no-doubt offensive studs at multiple positions, that’s a trade worth considering.

At the time.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

LETS GET HIM

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by xanthan on Jun 4, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still wish we had made an offer to get Cabrera. Not for Lincecum, but anyone else I would have probably been ok with.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gary Matthews Jr. DFA'd

Still owed 11M this year and 12M last year. Angels gave him to the Mets for nothing, and Mets just DFA’d him

I wish our front office have the guts to eat Rowand’s contract and DFA him.

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

He should have never been signed in the first place, let alone stayed on the team for 2 horrible years.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh oh

hide this news from GINATS BRASZ

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: OK, i dont know what to think about this, so i’m going to the Reds game on Monday and then Tuesday i’m driving back to the Bay Area, so it’s Zito v. Cueto… almost wishing i’d see Cain

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I am trying to decide if I should sit Cueto next week.

My heart says yes but my brain says “LOL, NO”

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

aren’t all of the Cincy pitchers still on fire right now?

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cueto had a bad outing against the Cards this week. But prior, yeah.

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by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My stomach says, “Thanks for that burrito. It was delicious.”

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

My stomach says “Where’s my damn Snickers?”

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by ResDog on Jun 4, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

WELL THEN EAT YOUR DAMN SNICKERS!

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by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way the rotation is lining up right now, Sanchez is facing the team aces… Duke today, and Harang next week. That doesn’t freak me out too much, since neither is particularly dominating.

What terrifies me is Wellemeyer vs. Leake.

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The “ace” tag is LOL, harang and arroyo are having pretty bad years if I recall, floating around a 5 era. Bailey and leake are there best pitchers so far this year, and cueto’s been pretty good to as well. I don’t fear the reds pitching, I fear the onslaught of random free swinging young hitters hitting pop ups over the fence at that LOL field.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said, Harang and Duke are only aces in the NL Central; either one of them would probably be the #5 for us. I didn’t realize Harang had been so brutal for so long, though. He really hasn’t been good since 2007? And the Dodgers were still trying to trade for him? That’s lol-worthy.

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by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

to bad the dodgers got rid of both ortiz’s, but now their using justin miller as the 7th inning guy so EPIC LOLS indeed.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harang has had luck as bad as Cain's over the last few years in Cincy.

His xFIP is consistently significantly lower than his ERA, his run support has been crap for ages, and the fact that he’s a fly-ball pitcher means that Great American is one of the worst parks in the majors for him to call home. I would LOVE to have Harang by the Bay.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both times i've been to Great American it's been Zito pitching

Last year Zito was STELLAR, but yea, Harang by the bay would be pretty awesome, i mean, he is a fly ball pitcher but gets screwed because of the park he’s in but yea

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by PiKAgiant on Jun 4, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marcus Knecht intrigues me for round 2 or 3.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 4, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Baggs:

Pat Burrell arriving any minute. Bochy said consensus was hes in great shape & ready to help. “I won’t set any target for his playing time.”
3 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE!!!

by deuce deuce on Jun 4, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

The whole great shape thing is just more proof of old school thinking...

Nowadays, the majority of pro athletes are in great shape year-round.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do realize we’re talking about the Giants?

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and this just gets tossed onto the enormous pile of evidence.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

But for a number of Giants, the shape is ‘pear’.

Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's being nice

Molina and Panda are more orange shaped.

And inexplicably, Torres is shaped like a Cantaloupe

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by grape on Jun 4, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

that the giants front office and management

Is full of dip shit dim witted fucks that only care about profit and trying to sell lies to fans that they are doing a great job?

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

More that their time has come and gone...

and their ability to operate and succeed in the modern game has likely passed.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet, they will all stay employed and recieve extensions as long as the attendance and merchandise sales keep piling up.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was anyone questioning what shape he was in?

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

My hunch was rhombus.

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.

by Solidarity on Jun 4, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEXAGONAL PRISM

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Jun 4, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

DODECAHEDRON

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL BAGGS

/baggs makes comment that bengie was seen in the weightroom on the stairmaster, continuing to maintain the best shape of his life.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Bengie has always been circular

and the home of the.... JETS!
BEAT LA
MV3!!!
Dubbs

by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Jun 4, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it a bad sign that Whiteside leads the team in .OPS?

by DFARowand on Jun 4, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

SUSTAINABLE

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

by scout6 on Jun 4, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not for Whiteside.

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure sign the end of the age is upon us.

Repent, Sabean, REPENT!

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

It’s a bad sign that Posey’s not starting at catcher even though Bengie is getting a day off.

My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.

by goGSW24 on Jun 4, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW, OGC


Bochy does not stick with vets when there is a young player hitting better at the moment,
he likes to go with the hot hand, but if neither is hot, he will go with the vet, which only makes sense. He has given a number of the young prospects extended periods of solid playing time (2-6 weeks) before looking for alternatives when they are struggling.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/fantasy/article/waiver-wire-nl-week-9/

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL OGC!

My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.

by goGSW24 on Jun 4, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, no.

Yeah he definately gave bowker 2-6 weeks LOLOL.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pat Burrell already hurting the Giants before taking a single at bat
But the most fascinating part of our conversation centered on Mark DeRosa. Burrell said that in 2004, when he played for Philadelphia, he developed the same injury that DeRosa has, a torn tendon sheath in his wrist. But rather than have the surgery, Burrell rehabbed the wrist, returned after about five weeks and has been fine ever since.

A doctor in Philadelphia told Burrell to have the surgery, but two days before the scheduled date the wrist felt better, so he consulted the same surgeon in Baltimore whom DeRosa consulted for a second opinion, and that doctor told Burrell he did not need surgery.

What’s more, Burrell said he spent 30 minutes before yesterday’s game in Fresno telling DeRosa the whole story. DeRosa then went out and had three hits in the game, a ground single up the middle, a liner over the third baseman’s head and an infield hit.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/index#ixzz0pvIorLpz

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

GAMER. TRUE GIANT. GOOD SOLDIER.

Sabes would give him an extension if he could just get his to calm down first.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Such a moving story!

My bowels are moving like crazy now! I think I have to take a Sabean.

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh…My…God…

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 4, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

/rips glasses off
/tears tendon sheath

Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott

by jhiat00 on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

/keeps on playing

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Has a .211/.274/.383 line for the next 4 months while Bochy waits for him to catch fire.

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabean’s concurrent Twitter:

@SavvySabes Burrell is a winner. Brings needed experience. Active roster has 13 players under 30. He’s a vet who can teach them how to win. BS

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming the word "Savy" means "Complete and utter fuckwit" in a long forgotten Semitic language.

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very likely. Possibly Sumerian. Or Babylonian.

by Every6thDay on Jun 4, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

bork bork bork

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

BS is right.

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

and I don’t mean Brian Sabean is right.

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.

by SFGuy on Jun 5, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

For a second I thought you made this up and that it was hilarious… then I realized it was a LOL SF GATE article… Jesus christ.

Words can’t describe how awful this is, the thought of a injured derosa playing all year re-renteriaing our line up… dear god help us.

And worst of all sabean and larry baer will act smug and pretend this was a great signing and act like he’s doing a great job.

"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."

by sfgiants420 on Jun 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, that would be one bad body.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Jun 4, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

An OBP machine that sits on the bench.

"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane

"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean

by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 4, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not bad

assuming he sign him for slot or below.

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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

*Depending on who else is available

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw it

if the draft played out that way I’d be fine with Gyorko

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get the Gyorko love in the 1st round. Best case he gives you only 2 above average tools in the majors: hitting for power and hitting for average. But that’s the best case – it’s in no way for certain that his power will translate to wooden bats and against top pitching. He can’t play SS or 2B in the majors because of his lack of range, so he’ll have to get by at 3B or 1B, where his D and range will be average at best. His arm is average and his running is below average. So were drafting him at #24 soley based on his ability to hit.

Now I want you to look at this video clip of him hitting:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7177793
Am I the only one that sees the huge holes in his swing? Watch again and see how much movement there are in his feet throughout his swing. Neither his front foot nor his back foot stay on the ground. The only guy in the majors that I’ve ever known to get away with that is Ichiro, and Gyorko is no Ichiro. With his long swing and active feet, a good pitcher in the majors will be able to eat him alive. His only hope is to shorten his swing and quiet his feet. But then he loses his power.

In the end, IMO, the best case is that we end up with a high average, low slugging singles hitter at a corner IF position. Is that worth a #24 pick to you?

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the end, IMO, the best case is that we end up with a high average, low slugging singles hitter at a corner IF position. Is that worth a #24 pick to you?

No, but it sure as shit does to Brain.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

*is

I need to check my English.

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jun 4, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

a high average, low slugging singles hitter at a corner IF position

sounds like Buster Posey

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by jctGamer on Jun 4, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I have no doubt that Buster will become a solid 20+ HRs a year guy by the middle of next year. He could hit even more if he played in a different park – AT&T doesn’t set up well for him since a lot of his power is to CF and the RF gap. I predict that he will end up hitting more triples than any other catcher year-in and year-out because of that.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Posey at catcher

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Jun 5, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I don't love him in the 1st

but I like him more than Cabrera and a lot of the high ceiling prep arms (with the exception of Covey). But Callis’ mock is basically a worst case scenario for the Giants

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by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I do like him better than Cabrera and Castellanos, but don’t sell premium, mature arms like Loux and Paxton short. They could be ready in a hurry. I certainly think they’re better at this point than Minor was at this time last year, and Minor is tearing things up in AA for the Braves right now. I could see him in a Braves uni as early as the middle of next year. By the same token, I could see Loux or Paxton in a SF Giants uni as early as the middle of 2012. If you add MadBum into the mix, that gives us a lot of flexibility to trade a Matt Cain, JSnachez, or MadBum for a corner IF/corner OF bat that would be much more advanced than Gyorko in 2012.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 4, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do like Castellanos a lot

I’m pretty meh on Loux and Paxton, though I prefer Paxton more

Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster

by Gobroks on Jun 4, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be careful about over analyzing his hitting mechanics. I can remember someone around here repeatedly criticizing Heyward’s swing before the 2007 draft, explaining why he was overrated.

That said, I think you’re right that there will be better options available at 24. The Giants will really have to believe in Gyorko’s bat to think he’s worth popping in the first round.

by Dan from NM on Jun 5, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand what you’re saying to and agree with you to a certain extent, you don’t want to miss the forest for the trees.

However, I can’t agree with the example you gave. Heyward was a legit 5-tool stud in HS in 2007. I don’t worry so much about a kid’s swing coming out of HS, especially when they have 4 other plus tools to fall back on, because it’s much easier to still change their mechanics at that point. You’ve got a lot of time to coach-up a HS kid, and they don’t tend to be as set-in-their-ways as college hitters.

But, Gyorko is much older, and his bad habits are deeply ingrained. It’s much harder to re-mold a college hitter, especially one that’s had as much success as Gyorko. And, Gyorko doesn’t have any other tools to fall back on. He’ll live and die by how far his bat carries him.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anthony Davis.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on Jun 4, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d rather get Iupati. He could play a mean 1B.

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by beat_la_25 on Jun 7, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

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