The Giants -- In play: Outs
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT
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The average National League team hits .257/.327/.401 for an OPS+ of 95. The Giants as a team are hitting .262/.328/.402 for an OPS+ of 92. Other than a slight adjustment for park, the Giants are as average as average can be. No more, no less.
Item #2
The San Francisco Giants have an offense so bad, so frustrating, so putrid, that every inning I’m forced to watch, I want to squish guinea pigs to death with my bare hands, do a pagan dance on their cute, fuzzy remains, and howl, howl, howl at the sky, hoping the gods responsible for this horror are pleased with themselves.
At first glance it would appear that both Items #1 and #2 would be logically inconsistent. Mutually incompatible.
Then you get to the double plays. The Giants have hit into 23 more double plays than the average NL team. So if you’re looking the Giants just by their AVG/OBP/SLG splits, you’re not getting the entire story. What makes it more painful is that the Padres have only grounded into 38 double plays. Thirty-eight! That’s how many the Giants would have had last night if the game had gone extra innings.
Two theories, completely bereft of pesky "facts" or "research":
- The Giants are slow. Like, really slow. When asked if Bengie Molina, Pat Burrell, Juan Uribe, Edgar Renteria, Freddy Sanchez, or Pablo Sandoval would win in a foot race, the only correct answer is "no." This has a little bit to do with the double plays.
- The Giants have been a little bit unlucky, and the Padres have been a little bit lucky. Not a lot, mind you. But the Giants aren’t hitting more ground balls than the average NL team, but when they do, it’s more likely that a runner is on first base with less than two outs. The Giants aren’t exactly getting runners on base at a prodigious rate, either, so that compounds the unluckiness even more.
It’s not comforting at all to think that double-playapalooza might be just a quirky bit of bad fortune. When a team is cursed, there’s no guarantee that they’ll snap out of it, even after the monkey paw is thrown away. I’ve never been the kind of writer who has understood linear weights or things like that, but I’d have to think that the extra 20 or 30 outs over the league average the Giants have given away is kind of a big deal – at least a win or two, if not more.
So is it bad luck? The comparative girth of the land mammals we have roaming the field? Something else?
Until we figure this out, maybe it’s best we didn’t see each other. Look, it’s not you, it’s me. It’s hard to explain. I’m just in a dark place right now.
Also, the San Francisco Giants should stop hitting into so many double plays.
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omg guinea pig
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
TWSS
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Delicious grilled or roasted.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants also have some players with notable history of GiDP
so this tendency was clear even before the season started.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Is it too late...
to include the poll answer of “None?”
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Jun 29, 2010 8:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
NSFW. And by work, I mean stomachs.
I decided not to use this as the picture at the last second. I’m not sure if I made the right decision.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh dear
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
yikes
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Shouldn’t have sent Eugenio to AAA.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
when you consider it, by successfully stealing more bases, they (SD) are also preventing more GIDPs.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Heck, just by attempting to steal more bases you’re preventing more GIDP’s….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
of course, as demonstrated last night, there are many ways to DP. If there is a DP to be had, the giants will find a way into it.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
If there was a reverse fantasy team, a lot of our hitters would go in the early rounds.
They could be Giants...but not really.
About the title: Well done.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
The Giants have much blubber
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions
On the positive side, there will be no shortage of potential Santa's at the team's Xmas party
/silver lining search completed
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
"Aww man, that sucks. I was hoping to at least AUDITION."
“Oh no! You still can, Aaron. The requirement is that you be able to handle a SLEDDER.”
LOOK FOR THE DOT!
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
/substitutes "holiday" for Xmas
/smugly
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
To their credit, it does bring more boys to the yard.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on the location of the blubber
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I think it’s a combination of bad luck and the team being slower than the original Solaris, which is now pushing a full hour without having anything significant happen.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
I was about to make this joke.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The funny thing is that in the book, STUFF ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Almost as bad as that video game YouTube.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Persona?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You found that to be un-BEAR-able!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
love that fucking film
hang in there.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
I’m actually really enjoying it. It’s just remarkably slow.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pre MTV editing.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That is the greatest Commie Sci-Fi movie of all time, Bitch!
except for STALKER, maybe
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Stalker > Solaris
but it’s a tough call
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
I think it has to do with the players approach at the plate. While a few newcomers seem to know what they are doing, the rest (if you haven’t noticed) are hackers. With runners on base, most pitchers change their approach slightly to induce contact. Hackers gonna hack and not think about what they’re doing with the pitch and you get DPs.
While I think it’s bound to balance out a bit, if you have Pablo continuing to really not have any plan up there specifically with runners on, he (and the Giants) will continue to be near the top (or bottom) in the league in GIDPs.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Oh
and they’re fat
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Everyone on the team other than Torres, Nate and Franchez have below average speed.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
have = has
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This is basically what I was going to write. Thanks!
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
More leaner.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
More and more leaner.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Sandoval with runners on: .240/.313/.333 (.333!)
Sandoval bases empty: .303/.353/.484
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Hitting approach (inner monologue version):
Sandoval, bases empty: “Let’s see what this guy’s got.”
Sandoval, runners on: “OH GOD SWING SWIIIIIIING SWEEEEEEEEENG YOU ASSHOLE DOITDOIT DOOOOO IT SWINGSWINGSWINGSWINGSWINGSWINGSWING — FUCKI’MSTARVING — SWINGSWINGSWING”
This actually gives me hope
That panda can be fixed…I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I thought FP had some good points last night about our approach with runners on
by Artimus Clyde on Jun 29, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Sooo.....
Panda should be our lead-off hitter???
"Row(and) will come out of this. You stay with your guys and he is one of our guys." - Bruce Bochy 05-31-10
"...and with Titanic's transverse bulkheads and watertight doors, it renders this vessel practically unsinkable." - "Shipbuilder" magazine, 1912
Actually . . .
. . . coming into this year, he looked like our best #2 batter. FSanchez needs to be #7 or #8 (assuming a sane use of players, which removes this from the realm of reality).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Actually...
The Giants seem stupid enough to tell Pablo that because his RISP numbers are bad, he has to improve that part of his game by changing his approach when runners are in scoring position.
Maybe telling him to be more aggressive or something.
The only reason I think this is because they were also telling Fred Lewis something very similar in the offseason.. And if you look at Lewis’ numbers, his OBP isn’t quite as beefy and attractive as it used to be, possibly because he’s trying to be more ‘aggressive’ in certain situations (or possibly all situations).
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jun 29, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So basically, any possible factor that exists that would contribute to more GIDP’s…..that factor is working against the Giants? Yeah, I can see that.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like the Perfect Storm!
/George Clooney & Mark Wahlberg stare out into the Atlantic
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
The answer to all this is SUCK IT, RUSSELL MARTIN!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Y??
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
D:
Thank you for the subject line.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
For a second I thought this was a jctgamer self-pic.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The Astros are inflating OPS+
From 2000 to 2009, the team with the worst OPS+ in the NL had always been in the 80-86 range, with two exceptions – the Dodgers in 2003, with a 79 OPS+, and Arizona in 2004, with 77.
The Astros currently sit at 71. They have a truly historically bad offense. They might be making other below average offenses look better than they really are.
It’s really a weird year in the NL. A 92 OPS+ is only a little below average, and yet it’s good for 4th worst in the NL.
I was promised lasagna.
Yup, and that truly historic bad offense
knocked Cain and Zito around last week.
Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.
also the Pirates
Well, I don’t know about OPS+, but they’re doing even worse at scoring runs than the Astros. Which is an accomplishment of sorts.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
GDP is just for grounding into double plays, right? Because the Giants seem really seem to get creative in how they manage to get two outs at the same time. Not tagging on fly balls or line outs, or a runner caught stealing on a 3rd strike. 81 GDPs doesn’t tell the full story of our frustration.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Among the many many reasons
to hate AJ Piershitski is that he led the MAJORS in GIDP during his one season in SF.
Runners on the corners, one out, Piershitski at the plate. 4-6-3
by betterthanbochy on Jun 29, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions
AJ had 27 GDP that year and 21 in 2007
had 18 2009 and that matches his 162 game average
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
such a liar, see this is last nights lineup
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Gah!
Posey gets Bochy’d again.
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
LOL BUSTY
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Hey remember when Bochy said he wasn’t benching Buster?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jun 29, 2010 3:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it may be time to dust off Natto’s lonely Buster picture.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
There were ways to tell it was a lie
The first clue was that Bochy said it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Every day is opposite day in BochyWorld.
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
imho Bochy is off his rocker
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
"5 starts per week"
Ugh.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Remember when I knew he WAS getting benched?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Where the f**k is Buster? Son of a ******
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
molina handles the pitchers better
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
/Pass Ball
errr…….Wild Pitch.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
This is a good counterpoint to those that say managers don’t make much of a difference. PLAY THE BEST F**KING PLAYERS YOU HAVE!
God damn it.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Quitcherbitchin
He got an at-bat yesterday for crying out loud!
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
So now he is benched for at least a week. Silly kid, striking out in a big game situation!!! You will play in no more pressure filled, game on the line situations until you have more experience playing in pressure filled, game on the line situations!!!!
Pretty much!
I like the thought below, also, that they purposely played him out of position so that they can now call him a defensive liability. Sneaky.
Maybe we need to create a new word for use with those two.
You know, I know for a fact that Bruce Bochy is a really good, generous, kind person. I hate hating him, but he is really pissing me off lately.
He can be good and kind, but still an asshat manager. He’s not really demonstrating any fantastic baseball acumen. “Can’t play them all” is one of the stoopidest reasons for putting out a crap line-up.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I’m not familiar with this one. What was the context?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
It was a tweet from John Shea:
http://twitter.com/JohnSheaHey/status/16884405680
They could be Giants...but not really.
After he tweeted this:
Zen and the art of managing. Bruce Bochy, explaining why he wants to get everyone on roster involved: It’s to “create a sense of oneness.”
They could be Giants...but not really.
Fixed.
Zen and the art of managing. Bruce Bochy, explaining why he wants to get everyone on roster involved: It’s to "create a sense ofonenessone out-ness."
Oh Lord. What a butthead. I’d be fine with 25 cabs if the team would just win some frakking games. I don’t care if they like each other (see: Kent, Bonds).
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
cabs?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
(follow the chain up to the original quote)
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
It leads here.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
/bgunn gest shaken down by ChooseCo’s legal muscle
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
at the risk of looking double-dumb: ChooseCo?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
the guys who sent Grant a C&D letter for his Choose Your Own Adventure posts
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
yes, they did
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Bochy said that?
The same guy who has had Ishikawa on his roster all season and given him exactly two starts in 75 games has the gall to talk about getting everyone on the roster involved?
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
found him
just getting used to his spot
Where's Perry?
by Bballpitcher2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL BUSTER!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
who?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I think I'll take a pass this evening
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe a golf night? or a night at the bar with the guys
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Both of these are excellent ideas
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
yea, might just head out right now
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
How about golf and drink?
And only bring like 3 clubs
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Haha, that’d be VERY fun… usually have a beer or two on the course, although it is expensive to get beer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Just stuff them in your bag
And hope the marshall doesn’t drive by
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Everytime i've played golf lately i've yet to see a Marshall
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Or play at Gleneagles where they encourage you to drink (or more..)
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
I almost always bring beer, and I’ve never had anyone say anything about it to me….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on the time of day for me
Usually twilight isn’t that bad, but the morning/afternoon has marshalls out everywhere.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah, but I’m saying even if I come across a marshall, I’ve never had anyone say anything…
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hooray golf courses that aren't run by stingy bastards!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I agree, i usually always bring beer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I don’t always golf, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
by atxgiantsfan on Jun 30, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
whatever, i’m at that point again where i don’t care anymore
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You know what it’s making me NOT want to do? Spend any money going to games. I went on Saturday, and ended up spending a boatload on parking, food, my ticket, gas, tolls and I don’t want to do that anymore if I’m not going to see the best lineup possible.
Public transportation?
And bring your own food?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yes, the best way to do it but I cannot resist the lemonade at the ballpark.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
That lemonade is awesome during a day game.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah it is, I think they put crack in it. Since I partner for season tickets, you get tired of the park food after awhile. Though occasionally fish and chips or chinese food hit the spot.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
If they had a Vietnamese sandwich place closer to the yard
I’d go there before every game.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
there is a ‘coffee shop’ sandwhich place around the corner on 4th that has Bhan Mi
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Oh nice, how is it?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I dont know, actually, but ive heard its good. Also HRD on 3rd is supposed to be good. I heard that their korean philly cheesesteak sammich is killer.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I might try out that first place
Korean philly cheesesteak sounds terrible to me
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Muffins Muffins is on 2nd near Howard… not that close, but my coworkers love their sandwiches.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they put crack in it.
Like grandma made.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
is it like gramma made?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Yeah yeah, I know
I was just saying…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I love AT&T, and don’t mind spending money there for the most part. Right now, though, it just doesn’t seem worth it. :(
I’m hitting up a lot more minor league ball these days, which is fun and way cheaper.
And much easier not caring if they lose. It is like Kid’s soccer. There are no losers.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Everyone gets a participation trophy!
But, when I see the Grizz this week, I’ll get to see about 10 major leaguers (plus the likes of Coco Crisp who I think might still be with the River Cats). Kind of the best of both worlds. (Bowkermania!)
I went a couple weeks ago
Not sure if it was worth it either. I’d love to hit up some more minor league games but there aren’t any minor league teams nearby.
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Where are you located? Catching a River Cats and
Grizzlies game at Raley Field in Sacramento is a damn good alternative to what Bochy is trotting out there these days.
Just stay away from the Dinger Dog at all costs.
Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.
Marin
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Yeah
I think Sonoma County had a minor league team a while ago, but I don’t see their commercials anymore, so I’m guessing they’re gone.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Heck yes it is!
Just went to a local independent game this weekend and the ticket was 10 bucks. And they still played baseball! Our team lost 7-0…but still. It was still baseball in person, just everything was WAY cheaper
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Baseball is baseball, had to have been alot of fun even with the price that cheap
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
baseball is baseball
except when it’s not
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Camden has an independent league team. Haven’t gone yet, but it’s on my list. Stadium looks awesome, everything is cheap, and their promotions are awesome.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I recommend it
they do a good job of making it fun. The crowd atmosphere obviously isn’t quite the same, but it’s still fun
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All I’ve been to this year are minor league games and I love it.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish there was a minor league team here in Long Beach. The Inland Empire has like 3 California League teams, but I’m not going all the way out there. And I don’t want to go to Dodger Stadium or Angel Stadium for baseball.
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no independent team there, either?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Long Beach Armada (Golden League) was here for a couple seasons, but Long Beach State took over Blair Field from the city and basically kicked them out.
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
helluva good college team tho
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
There were pretty bad this year. Plus, I am a Fresno State Bulldog, so boo Long Beach State
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
YEAH FRESNO STATE
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to love going to Fresno Grizzlies games when I lived across the street from Beiden Field.
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The Quakes, the 66'ers... and who else?
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My first thought was JetHawks.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Or it could be High Desert.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, High Desert sounds right
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I went a few Quakes games when I lived over that way … good stuff. I miss Thirsty Thursday
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
$2 beer night, correct?
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I think the Grizzlies have Thirsty Thursdays, too. But I think it’s $1 beer, not $2.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Well piss, i wont be able to do that
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Both at the River Cats games and the SJ Giants games I’ve been to, they have the “Beer Batter.” It’s a guy from the opposing team. If he strikes out, beer is half price for that inning.
See, this is why minor league games ARE AWESOME
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Think you’ll ask for another picture with him?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Only if she mentions my name.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw him steal a base last Saturday. I was in shock the rest of the game.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
that's pretty freaking awesome
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$1 beer on Thursday at the Quakes games
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
beer? Or "pee in a cup"?
i mean a dollar is nice, but it must be like coors or something?
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WEll,
i’m getting Sierra Nevada 24 packs for 5 bucks, soooooooo i wont be needing to go to the store anytime soon
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
holy shit
what?!
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Step mom gets it
and everytime i go up to chico they have everything on tap there
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I have a couple of friends who want to hit that up this year
Hopefully I can make it before the season ends
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HA, one thing i haven’t done is gone to a game this season, and for you that’s a hell of a drive to the city and seeing the game in San Francisco
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
SHUT UP!!!!! but yea, that’s part of it, another is that i’d rather sit at home with my free beer and my dog and just chill
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I remember you saying in the off season you were gonna come out and go to a game.
related: I think i owe someone a beer if they come out here. But I think it was Xanthan
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
We haven’t gone in awhile, we usually go to one game a month, we probably won’t go again this season till September or October, whenever the last home game is: we already have those tickets. I’m too frustrated to buy any more.
HEAR THAT GINTZ BRASZ YOU ARE LOSING $$$$$$ !!!!!
We are hoping to get to a Salem-Keizer game sometime in August…
Salem Keizer would be pretty neat, hell i might go to a San Jose Giants game! But also i think the commercials are pissing me off as well
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
so cheap and so much offense!!!!!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Whoa there
TMI
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His pre-at bat routine
Includes a propeller at the seats behind home plate!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that what you do before a big business meeting?
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It is more of a post-meeting thing for me. Think of it as a non-verbal BOOYA!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You should become a motivational speaker
And end your seminars with the propellering
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Only when you use the power of positive thinking can you truly propeller!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Only when you truly propeller can you use the power of positive thinking!
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If you put those two sentences together
It would read like a quote from The Sphinx in Mystery Men.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If you can’t master your propeller your propeller will become your master.
He’s terribly mysterious.
by younghutch on Jun 29, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
+1
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL nice
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Hahaha yeah, I usually re-read what I write before posting
Otherwise I get pwned, such as in this subthread.
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do the players talk to the fans down there?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Yeah. He went to UT, and my friend was wearing a UT hat, so he came by to tell her he liked her hat. He got a picture with her and they’re both making the little “hook ’em” sign with their hands. It’s super cute.
The only thing separating you from the players when they’re warming up is a short chain link fence. They will usually smile or say hi.
Oh that’s sweet, i’m pretty sure he only did that because it was a girl that was wearing the hat… But seriously that’s awesome, wonder what would have happened if i was near the dodger bullpen tonight with a Miami U shirt on, since Ely went to Miami.
But that’s pretty sweet, gonna have to travel to San Jose and see some games
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Not at all. I’m not exactly ball player gilfriend material. For one thing, my hair is naturally blond.
(I know that last sentence is going to get me in trouble.)
I would normally ask for proof
But I am feeling nice today and will skip it.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
the Lars is a powerful force
his mercy given here will be renowned for centuries
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
he’s turned his back on his own heritage!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
However, it you feel compelled to provide evidentiary support, please feel free to do so. =)
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The League of Baseball Annies (LBA) is powerful and unforgiving.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
oh SNAP.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahah, I know, right?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I always feel like I’m irreversibly damaging my hair whenever I straighten it or blow dry it. I could never imaging bleaching it.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
I could also not imagine tanning myself to the point that I look like a leather handbag, yet that happens, too. I do not understand.
I just can’t imagine tanning, period. I get massively burned whenever I go out in the sun for longer than an hour without sunscreen. Sometimes with sunscreen as well.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
I did it for awhile, because I really do look better tan than pasty white, but then I decided I’d look better alive than dead from skin cancer, so…
SPF 50 sunscreen?
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heard about that study
that most sunscreens actually accelerate the rate at which cancerous cells are produced?
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I’m not sure that was good science.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Seriously? Some guy was trying to tell me something like that at AT&T recently, but he was drunk so I ignored him.
I spose you can take it with a grain of salt
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The study was not up to normal scientific rigor standards.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Seems to me
that the FDA should, you know, at least tell us when something is POTENTIALLY dangerous and they know about it for ten years
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Yikes, that's some fucked up shit
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Wait, so you're tan?
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It makes sense to me
I often look at women and think “She’d be more attractive if she was the color of a pumpkin.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Same here. I mean, I dye my hair sometimes, but I use henna cause I really can’t imagine putting all that chemical crap in my hear.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
pro tip
put it in your hair instead
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Damn typo.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hair, not hear. I can’t spell today.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
coulda been worse
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Wooo natural blondes unite!
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Dunno, i prefer redheads… just sayin, wait… girlfriend’s a brunette
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
RUSSIAN SPIES FTW!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
uhh... hey there
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/close enough
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the thing, and this is the truth, she is my first girlfriend, but here’s the deal, it used to be with me where i’d go around thinking that if a girl so much as said one word to me i was in love with her… HENCE STUPID… but then i found my girlfriend figured it out, and sometimes i think that’s what happened
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
So, after only somewhat keeping tabs on your relationship problems...
It seems like you’ve decided to go with the known quantity (Molina, Rowand) instead of roll the dice on a situation with more upside? (Posey, Schierholtz, Bowker, etc.)
Dude… you’re Bruce Bochy.
OH SNAP
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
it's TRUEEEEEE
might as well walk away now
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It’s a good thing she doesn’t read this site.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Doug MIrabelli and Bill Mueller were my favorite San Jose Giants back in the day. Keith Williams was cool too.
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s basically what I was saying above. I’m going to one game at AT&T in July and one in August, and I don’t think there will be that many others. But, I’m enjoying the minor league games.
Hope you guys get to check out a Salem-Keizer game!
I’m only planning on one home game in SF this year (July 18, with my niece). I’ll fill out the rest of my baseball stadium attendance in SJ.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I was close.... Knew he would want Burrell
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Buster :-(
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This is BULLshit.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Posey :(
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Jun 29, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nah
I only put in Buster and Zito.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
I was tempted to try and fit in the entire Giants starting roster, but then I was like, fuck it I’m too lazy.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
TWSS
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
yea, i was thinking about if there was a TWSS in there
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
awesome
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At first I thought this was one of those Magic Eye things, and if you stare at the picture long enough, Bengie appears.
Bowkermania has been put on hiatus for retooling.
by rightcenterfielder on Jun 29, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
SCHOOner?
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Huff should bat third
Burrell and Panda should switch, although Bochy is probably thinking Pat is less of GDP hazard should Huff draw a walk.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Pablo batting third is the absolute least of the problems here. Don’t take a scalpal to a shark bite.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo should not bat third against lefties.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
The difference between what Pablo actually is hitting against lefties this year and him hitting .300 against lefties this year is six hits.
Six. Splits are bad, but splits that leave you with 75 at bats are terrible.
For his career he’s a .309 hitter against lefties.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but this tracks a lot better with what he did in the minors than his performance last year. People seem to forget this, but Pablo had a career .691 OPS against lefties in the minors, compared to .850 against righties.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
To be honest, I didn’t even think to look at his minor league numbers. That’s probably a mistake on my part.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck this shit.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants Baseball: This Fucking Sucks
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
There's Black Magic Inside!!
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
“Can’t get em all in there”
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Trade / DFA molina
problem solved.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Oh
And the article you linked to puts the run value of a double play at -.5 runs more than a normal out, which would mean that it has cost that Giants 11.5 runs, a bit over a win.
half a run sounds a bit low, though.
I was promised lasagna.
Pie>Cake
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
by stealth snail on Jun 29, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants actually brought up Posey so he can sit on the bench. AGAIN!
lol
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 3:05 PM PDT reply actions
Why is bengia molina on this team again?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I never thought I’d be so disappointed that Buster isn’t playing 1B.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’m pretty sure that Bochy actually really enjoys screwing with these guys. I don’t even know if it’s veteran love anymore. He really seems to have this “lol look what I’m doing fuck everyone this is so funny” look on his face lately.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
He’s been pretty fucking smug recently. You’d think he managed to convince Sabes to sign Vinny Castilla or something.
When he called out lincecums conditioning and then proceeded to put molina in the line up hitting 7th, I realized how fucked this team is.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
It's a combination of these two faces, minus Sanchez:
+ 
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy’s so proud of that cat.
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by rightcenterfielder on Jun 29, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy’s knowing smile
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Though
There’s no way that Sabean lets the manager decide whether Posey is the new starting catcher, or just someone who gets to start somewhere if there’s an open spot, right? You can’t let the manager decide what type of player to turn your elite prospect into. It must have been Sabean’s decision.
Bochy is just a manager, but the idea that this is how the General Manager of a baseball team decides to develop a player, that this is his plan, is kind of scary.
I was promised lasagna.
Based on how little responsibility Brian seems to take for the running of the franchise, honestly, yeah, I could see him letting his former MLB C Bochy decide if Posey is a C or not.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that general managers do tell their managers what to do pretty frequently, but I’m not convinced that Sabean is one of them. He seems to like to stay out of other people’s jobs as much as possible, including scouting, which in turn gives him less work to do himself.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
But, I mean, do you think he’d let Bochy turn Bumgarner into a reliever without asking him?
I was promised lasagna.
I wouldn’t think so, no. But I think the line between lying about a guy not being benched and lying about a guy not being in the starting rotation is also pretty thick. If Bumgarner throws in relief, that’s a pretty clear sign. If Posey comes in off the bench, well, he “could” still start tomorrow….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Sabean’s notion is that his sole function is player acquisition.
Sabes (in 2 years): I acquired Posey but Bocy fucked him up.
NEVER
He would never disparage HIS manager like that. Posey just couldn’t hack it in the big leagues, and that’s why player development is such a roll of the dice. We’ve had a string of bad luck, but with every kid on the farm there’s a chance for something special. But all the more reason to give ourselves a safety net so that we’re not dependent on young guys having to do too much too fast, blah blah blah, this shit writes itself.
There must some sort of injury to Buster.
Bochy can’t be this stupid/cruel.
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Damon bruce just said borks reasoning is that buster is a “defensive liability”. He then stated he just stole 3 bases off molina.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
lol
is that a direct quote?
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Yup
Check his hour 4 pod cast for proof.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
still agree with him
dunno where this teams going, no Free Agents next year… Buster not playing, nothings different from last year or the year before
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It's ok
Sabean’s just waiting for the pitching staff to decline before he improves the team.
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Remember when he said after the A’s swept us? “Our pitchers are letting us down, they aren’t keeping us in the game, they aren’t throwing enough strikes, they are talking to many people, and they are bringing the team down”.
LOL SABEAN, GET THE FUCK OUT OF TOWN.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Welllllll let’s get real here, last night’s game? i’m putting alot of blame on the players and how they perform, however, it is the coach that sends those players out there and put them on the field
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And the GM that acquires the players who are able to perform well (or in this case, not that well)….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat Burrell i'd say was good
Sanchez has been good, Uribe? Huff?
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Why is everyone just ignoring Burrell’s TB performance and forgetting everything we know about sample size?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I promise that we all aren’t!
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BECAUSE AL! AND DH! AND.....
??? beats me
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WHY DO I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HE DID WITH TB, seriously, i’m just saying, he’s been a good sign of late, for how much money exactly? and i’m highly doubting he’s an everyday player, but oh, he’s been one
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Get ready for the 2-year extension to Burrell
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless he starts getting younger, he will be an every day starter for the rest of the season.
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WHY DO I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HE DID WITH TB
Because it matters for projecting the future, in other words, for what kind of performance we should expect from Burrell going forward….?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummm no? the past is the past dude
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Ha, I just said that exact same thing at the same time. Exactly. He’s been good for us. But we should be making decisions right now for what we expect out of him in the future. You can’t just pretend TB never happened….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
OK
well there are no decisions for the future, it was a sign for the rest of the season
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I honestly don’t have the slightest idea what you’re trying to say. When we make lineup decisions going forward, they should be based on what we expect players to do in those games we’re making the lineup for…..right?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, what? aight, last thing, i’ll say this, Pat Burrell is a fine player, not really caring about what happened in Tampa, to be honest, that’s my stance on it. And plus he’s not an everyday player
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I don’t really care about what happened in Tampa, doesn’t affect us, just pointing out it needs to be used for setting our expectations for what he’ll do going forward….
I honestly like him as a bat off the bench. As a DH, I’m sure he could give a team some value. I just don’t like him as a starting outfielder.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Try me.
Seriously, it was a weird blip, but still a blip. Aging players do not collapse as if poleaxed (especially at 32), they just lose a bit here and a bit there till they either hang ’em up or slide below the Mendoza Line. Just eyeballing his history, I would think that his career averages will be indicative of his abilities for the next two, maybe even three years (his prime years were well over his career averages, so I think we are safe with the running sums).
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Eh, still dealing with samples here. His TB performances have to reset our estimates of his true ability to some degree.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
so those 500 ABs completely offset the previous 5500?
just because they were awful that means what he did before them means nothing? Or way less? What do you base that on? Why are those 500 ABs more valuable than the previous 5500? Because you said so? Because he was older?
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If he had actually said any of what you’re implying he said, this comment would make sense. But he didn’t. So it doesn’t.
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Why is everyone just ignoring Burrell’s TB performance and forgetting everything we know about sample size?
Um, I’m pretty sure nobody is doing that. But suggesting that 500 ABs in TB somehow mean more than 5500 previous ABs elsewhere and then saying that everyone else’s assumptions are based on small samples is a little ridiculous.
Obviously they can be factored in to predicting how good he’ll be in the future, but it’s not like 500 ABs is a suitable sample just because it’s “larger than this year’s”. I think there’s a happy medium between the burrell that was amazing and the burrell that was a ray.
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Obviously they can be factored in to predicting how good he’ll be in the future,
That’s his entire point.
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Ok
and my point is that it sure seems like he’s giving them way more importance than anything that came before them.
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I mean, read the comment you replied to
Eh, still dealing with samples here. His TB performances have to reset our estimates of his true ability to some degree.
Basically the same point as yours.
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yes, that one is
but the one above is what is making me go “?” when he says stuff like that. And this discussion has happened before.
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Wow, that’s a huge strawman. Why would I ever say any of that? What about my posting history suggests I would tell you to ignore part of the sample?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
from the way you're talking
it sounds like you’re weighting the 500 ABs in tampa wayy more than anything he’d done before that.
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Well, I do give it some more weight because more recent = more important (which means his Giants performance gets the most weight), but no, I do not ignore his previous history before TB. I just see a lot of “He’s been good for us so far/who cares what he did in TB/he should get a chance until he stops hitting” and it annoys me. Seems entirely based on how he started off with us, which ignores what he’s been doing over the last almost 2 years now (which has been sucking – the end of the season and playoffs for Philly he sucked, too).
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I just see a lot of "He’s been good for us so far/who cares what he did in TB/he should get a chance until he stops hitting".
This are exactly my thoughts on Burrell. There’s a good chance he’s a has-been on a hot streak, but on the other hand, this lineup needs help so badly they might as well write him in every day and see what happens. They’re going to need lightning to strike to put a winning team on the field; Burrell has a better chance of that than the alternatives.
Well, one thing I’ll note – defense doesn’t slump. We KNOW Burrell is going to suck defensively. At least someone like Bowker could go off offensively while playing better D than Burrell, and someone like Nate could have a nice offensive season while playing really good defense…..
Plus, again, long term, giving Bowker and/or Nate a shot just makes so much more freaking sense to this team.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
it's not really two years though
it’s 500 ABs, which is barely a full season.
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Actually, I got up to 831 PA’s in the timeframe I was talking about. From Aug 2008 – the end of his time in TB.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
(Not that I’m saying just look at those 831 PA’s or anything, just that I mentioned he hasn’t been good going as far back as the last couple months of his Philly time, which gives us 831 PA’s)
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, i gotcha
and that is a better sample, you’re right. But it’s STILL just barely over a full season’s worth. Obviously something to be factored in, but I don’t see why that should be THAT much more important than what happened before it. As was mentioned before, players don’t usually fall off a cliff, and he isn’t THAT old.
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I think I posted this before, but PECOTA’s top ten comps for Burrell: Salmon, Tartabull, Koskie, Griffey Jr., Sexson, Stairs, Fielder, Jaha, Konerko, and Sorrento. Most of those guys fell off the cliff around age 33. It’s not uncommon at all.
But I’m still in favor of giving him a shot.
/Konerko hit 25 HRs while you were saying that
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I take your point though
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I have seen evidence that convinces me 33 year olds tend to be significantly worse than their 29 year old self, though….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess
I just feel like it’s reasonable to expect something in between, which would be really good for the Giants.
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Oh definitely something in between. Honestly, right now, I think his line for this full season is pretty close to what we should expect from him. Above average with the bat (maybe 110 wRC+ or so), but that’s just not enough for me to make up for his horrible defense to justify him starting, especially once you take the potential long term benefits our young players could give us into account.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't disagree with this
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And I else:
There has been some contentiousness about this, but having read some of Bradbury’s replies to the critics, I am inclined to side with him.
The crux, in a horribly abbreviated form, is this:
I find that players perform within two percent of their peaks from ages 26 to 32. Extending beyond this range, the dropoff isn’t particularly steep. According to my estimates, a hitter who has a .900 OPS at his peak would be expected to post around an .850 OPS at 35; a pitcher with a peak 3.5 ERA is expected to post around a 3.75 ERA at 35.
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Hmmm….if that’s the study I think it is, I’m not particularly fond of it. His sample selection criteria really fuck up the methodology. That said, I am still open to the idea that Tango’s aging curves I linked to are a bit too young.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I kind of just put the "peak age" at around 27-29
Though I don’t do projections, so I guess I can have that range.
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Read his replies:
(as linked above)—they address that exact question.
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They do.
They are a part of his cumulative career line. I didn’t throw them out (though were I offering advice for money, I’d certainly shade them somewhat), and that is another reason I think his career line is fully indicative (indeed, why I think there is at least a chance he might, even now, be a bit better than that line). At all odds, he is worth having, playing, and maybe keeping for another year or two.
He—and Huff—are at least making noises suggestive that they would accept less than astronomical dollars to stay on here, and I’d do it. The organization has a couple of prospects, Neal and Belt, who, if they prove out as hoped, will plug those two spots, 1B and LF, but not for perhaps a year yet. Sign Huff and Burrell to 2-year deals and trade them when the kids are ready—they should still have decent value then. (Indeed, I’d risk 3-year deals as long as there’s no no-trade clause involved—in fact, that might be to the good, as making them more attractive in a later trade, as nailed down for a longer period.) And if one or both kids stumble, you’d have something in place while you look for substitutes.
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And that’s what I would suggest people do, as well. As for “shading” his TB performance….well, it’s certainly something you can do, if you have good reason to. I’m not sure that we do, but then again, what happened is pretty unusual, so I’m not sure that we don’t, either.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
/hits pika on the head with a big stick
//pika asks why he was hit
///tells pika it doesn’t matter because the past is the past
////pika goes back home to kill his uncle, dramatic african music plays in background
I was promised lasagna.
That's one of the few Disney movies that gets worse with every rewatch
For me anyway
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At some point you do start wondering how come all the females didn’t just kill Scar and eat him or something, especially since we know that Nala > Simba, and there are a bunch of other wierd things, but overall I still love it.
Though I haven’t seen it in years.
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Did you watch the sequels?
From my friends’ reviews, it doesn’t seem like it would be worth the time.
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World Cup coverage on ESPN?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Because bruce bochy is our manager.
and Burrell has been at least “not terrible” so far.
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The past is, well, you know, in the past. Our decisions should focus on what he’ll do in the future. So…..yeah….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
or
we could scream about it on a website! That’s obviously been real effective for me and my campaigning for buster to play more!
HEY EVERYONE WHY ARE WE NOT CONSTANTLY TYPING IN CAPITALS ABOUT HOW STUPID EVERYONE WHO RUNS THIS TEAM IS?!?!?!?!? THAT WOULD APPEASE MISSING BARRY. BECAUSE IF WE DON’T THEN WE’RE IGNORING SAMPLE SIZE!!!
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This
What he just said made me terrified for the 2011 season, I hope the line up only consists of 4 veterans everyday but I’ll pray.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Like i said above, i was at this point earlier in the season, i really don’t care anymore about the lineup, i just will laugh everytime… bein a warriors fan is helping me out
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This
Although I am excited for the 2010-2011 NBA season, hopefully curry is dishing assists to bigs like he’s vintange marc jackson. I’m just praying for a healthy explosive block party season from wright, randolph, and udOH.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
God that was a awful fucking draft pick. Why do all the teams I root for suck and do such stupid shit?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the dude's from Baylor
And I graduate from Baylor. And you don’t mind me, so you won’t mind him. That’s how it works, right?
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You’re out of your mind dude, have you seen the kid play? You seen many Baylor/Michigan games?
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Let’s see, he barely has an offensive game, he plays the position our two biggest projects with huge ceilings play, he isn’t a great rebounder….and most importantly, he’s 23. Great. It’s the same concept as it is in baseball – when you’re doing well against younger competition, it’s just not nearly as impressive as young guys doing it against that competition.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Offensive game… hmm, WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER OFFENSIVE PLAYER, 4 blocks per game, he’s 23 and THATS GOOD, why on earth would they get another PROJECT, plus he might be one of the better low post guys we have now, Wright is our best player down low. Rebounding? DEFENSE>>>>>OFFENSE right now with this team
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jeeze, i dont understand why the warriors would go for more offense or another project when that was said about Randolph AND wright. Get a player who’s ready to contribute now, and can play defense, i’m sick of this waiting game and drafting all offensive players
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by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
hmm, WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER OFFENSIVE PLAYER
It’s not a hard concept. Like baseball, players have overall value. If you’re giving up way more value in things like rebounding and offense than you’re getting in defense, your team gets worse. Yes, we need defense desperately. We need good players who also contribute defensively. Udoh is not that, or at least has shown nothing along those lines so far. You know what will improve us substantially? Simply getting our young, decent bigs back so we don’t have Maggette playing the 4. We have 4 bigs who can block shots. They’ll also dramatically improve our defense. They’ll also give us more rebounding (which is probably the single most important aspect in basketball, especially defensively), and offense. Udoh provides nothing to this team whatsoever. How do you figure he’s good? All he did was block shots in college. 23 year olds with 1 skill are not Top 10 picks.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL, Udoh provides nothing to this team? Really? You’re saying that? All you gotta do is see what he did for Baylor last year and it proves that he is solid 4, none of this “he’ll provide nothing”. He rebounded, blocked shots, and he is already our number 1 or 2 scorer down low, Randolph? PLEASE, all he does now is put up shots. Wright? he’s our best back to the basket guy. I really don’t know who you’d want at that pick, Aminu is a project, Monroe is another less athletic big
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He rebounded, blocked shots, and he is already our number 1 or 2 scorer down low
If by that you mean he didn’t rebound impressively for an NBA draft prospect, you’d be correct. If by the scoring down low, you mean his scoring numbers were incredibly unimpressive for a 23 year old NBA prospect in college, then yes, again, you’d be correct. Seriously, he scored less than 14 points in 35 minutes per game. He did it while shooting under 50% from the field. AS A BIG MAN. He didn’t get to the line often. He didn’t shoot well when he did. That’s pretty shitty fucking offense out of a guy who’s transitioning into the NBA next year, who’s also at the point where he isn’t likely to improve all that much (that’s what happens with 23 year olds). Every single one of our bigs does better than that against actual NBA competition. How can you possibly try to spin it any other way?
He blocks shots. Our big men are all good shot blockers. He does one thing. Randolph rebounds (something Udoh likely won’t be that good at), blocks shots, still needs to improve his efficiency (but then again, Udoh’s efficiency also sucks) but still scores at a higher rate against NBA competition than Udoh did against college players.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I seriously don’t understand why the warriors need another offensive player, but i guess you’re seeing something i’m not, because i’m seeing a top scoring offense, and the leagues worst defense. You keep bringing up the fact that the warriors needed offense when that is probably one of the biggest strengths of this team, they desperately needed defense and they scored it with Udoh. Don’t read too much into the ESPN articles with all the bashing of his age.
I’ll take Udoh over Randolph with defense already, Randolph has NO beef whatsoever. Udoh has a 7’4 wing span, 7’3 for Randolph, He changed Baylor’s game defensively, and once again WHO CARES ABOUT THE SCORING WITH UDOH, it’s about DEFENSE, which this team had NONE, even with Randolph, he got BEASTED down low
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I seriously don’t understand why the warriors need another offensive player, but i guess you’re seeing something i’m not, because i’m seeing a top scoring offense, and the leagues worst defense.
We were actually fairly average offensively last season. 14th in BB-Ref’s offensive efficiency rating. Yes, we scored the most points per game, but it was a factor of our league leading pace, which means we get more possessions per game than everyone – but the thing is, so do our opponents. It’s like playing in an extreme hitters park, our numbers are inflated but not actually more valuable because the other teams numbers are inflated when they play us.
Anyways, I do believe there are diminishing returns to offense. If we were really near the top of the league, we could definitely discount offense somewhat. Two things – we’re not, and that still doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter at all. It still matters, just less. So yes, upgrading defense is the most important thing, but I’ll reiterate – rebounding is one of the most important things to defense. It’s also not clear Udoh is a good on ball defender – I’m under the impression Baylor played lots of zone, for instance. Off ball he’s good, but like I’ve said, so are our other bigs.
And you can drop the “beef” keyword. Ugh. Yes, we need better post defense, but we’ll get a lot of that simply by having healthy bigs. Yes, Udoh has a nice wingspan, but Randolph is still taller…..
Don’t read too much into the ESPN articles with all the bashing of his age.
I don’t watch/read much ESPN. It has nothing to do with them. It actually has to do with all the real research on aging curves and draft prospects. Age matters a lot. Just like in baseball when evaluating prospects, it matters in basketball when evaluating prospects. The real research strongly supports this.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll start with the age… I’ll definitely take a 23 year old over a 19 year old project, i think that’s what they’ve done with Wright, and Randolph, correct me if i’m wrong.
With the beef part, i do agree the more players the team gets back from injury it’ll help, length doesnt have much to do with “beef” Udoh is already bigger and thicker than Randolph, and i truly think Udoh is a dude who can immediately come in and produce, without any kind of TIME to wait. All of the other guys that were on the board needed time to wait, with the exception of probably Monroe, but we have a guy like that already.
But yea, i think more or less this is a debate that can be answered when the season comes. He did play the zone, so we’ll see for sure how he does in summer leagues, but this is whom the warriors needed, a bruiser who would get rough and get some boards down low, because Randolph was definitely shoved around
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I’ll definitely take a 23 year old over a 19 year old project, i think that’s what they’ve done with Wright, and Randolph, correct me if i’m wrong.
Honestly, this is one of my biggest points. The 19 year olds, on average, turn out to be way better players AND give their teams better value. His age really, really bothers me. Then you add in the way NBA aging curves work – NBA improvement tends to be based on “age” as opposed to “number of years in the league”…..basically, everything suggests the 19 year old, all else equal, is the much better pick.
Just from a philosophy standpoint, I don’t necessarily disagree with you – we have needs, and it wouldn’t be the worst thing to bring a guy in to fill those needs, and a guy ready to do that sooner rather than later. That said, I don’t see any evidence Udoh is really that guy. Rebounding translates very, very well from college to the NBA statistically, and his rebounding just wasn’t impressive. It wasn’t horrible or anything, but it wasn’t good, either. It’s a huge aspect of basketball. Basically, looking at what he was able to do in college and throwing on an expected aging curve improvement, the only thing I see him ready to contribute right now is shot blocking. That’s my problem with the pick. At BEST, he provides some post D and shot blocking. That’s just not enough nor is it what we need, especially since so much of our future depends on two high ceiling guys at his position we need to develop.
Also, if the team really is planning a firesale/transition to new ownership (which is what the rumors are, but they could be false), the project is the better idea in my mind. No point in getting a guy to contribute now if we aren’t trying to win now (assuming a different guy contributes more long term). But, maybe the rumors are wrong.
I would have preferred Monroe (actually not a huge fan of him, but big man with potential is never that bad a pick and Turiaf is our weakest big man so slotting Monroe over him is fine), Aminu (could potentially give us exactly what we need at SF – perimeter defense, which IMO is a bigger need than a big man defender), or maybe a guy like Paul George (don’t actually know much about him but others at GSoM I respect seemed to like him). Just not a 23 year old with very little potential who isn’t ready to do that much right now. Just completely and utterly hate the pick. :\
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY WHY WHY WHY would you get another project for this again, on a dysfunctional team, the dude can be produce.
Monroe i wouldn’t have wanted, just another passing big man and a high post player. Aminu is overrated with his defense, and plus he’s 19, i just can’t fathom taking another 19 year old project, that’s just me, it’s not worth it, and what’s this, and HOW do you know he has little potential? just wondering. And i’m not a HUGE fan of the pick but i think it’s decent, so i think the dude will be pretty respectable.
Was a huge fan of Paul George, but they need a SF FROM FREE AGENCY, not a draft pick, Josh Howard? Ronnie Brewer? Mike MIller? ALL SMALL FORWARDS, just saying
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
HOW do you know he has little potential?
Pretty much everything suggests this. Something like rebounding is extremely, extremely projectable. It’s incredibly rare for a guy to just all of a sudden become a very good rebounder. We can pretty confidently pencil him in as an above average rebounder at best, and likely more like average. That limits his ceiling. Being 23 really, really limits his ceiling. What he did in college (read: didn’t do) really limits his ceiling. Physically, he’s solid enough (in terms of size/length/athleticism), but he’s not a freak or anything. Another limit on his ceiling. Pretty much the only aspect he has a decent ceiling in is defense, not counting the rebounding aspect of defense.
Aminu is overrated with his defense
Not sure about that. Not saying he can step in and do it right now, but he’s got pretty freakish physical tools, he does the things you look for like block shots, get steals and rebound that tend to be very projectable….if you have those things in place, all it takes is putting your mind to defense…..
they need a SF FROM FREE AGENCY
All we have is the MLE, so I don’t see us pulling one better than the collection of smaller wings we already have, so that’s a big problem…..
Plus, reaching for a guy means he likely has less trade value if we want to use him as a piece in a trade…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sorry but in my opinion being 23 doesnt mean anything about potential… He’ll be a solid player, something the dubs need in the post. Don’t need an athletic freak, i’m pretty sure someone like Wright, or Randolph has athleticism, don’t need another one.
Aminu might have a high ceiling, not sure why one would want to draft another guy with a high ceiling, it’s just more time and patience.
I seriously think they’re gonna make a run at Brewer, or Miller, or someone of that sort.
Udoh is not going into a trade, nor should he
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Why wouldn’t age matter to potential? I mean, this strikes me as so much like projecting baseball minor leaguers I would figure that argument would get listened to! It’s like a 27 year old in AAA!
Aminu might have a high ceiling, not sure why one would want to draft another guy with a high ceiling
Because better players make your team better? :)
But seriously, of course potential isn’t the only thing. Likelihood of reaching it matters, too, as does the timeframe you want to be competitive. We’re not going to be a contender in the next year or two, so we have that going for us. Likelihood is a much more debatable subject, all in all, I guess it comes down to me not projecting Udoh to be very good…..
I seriously think they’re gonna make a run at Brewer, or Miller, or someone of that sort.
This is actually one thing I’m not all that knowledgeable about – the market value of guys like that. Do you think we can get someone worthwhile for the MLE….?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
And again, it’s not that I don’t like the idea of a guy that can produce, I don’t see reason to think Udoh can produce that much. Honestly, everything about him suggests he’s closer to Foyle than to [insert elite post defender here]….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
there was nobody on the board that i would’ve wanted for the warriors to have, that’s just my stance
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
That’s actually my stance, too. Once the first 5 guys were gone (and I even have doubts about Wes Johnson), it was pretty ugh overall. That said, though I wasn’t a huge fan of anyone available, I thought taking Udoh was a huge step down, so that’s why I hate it so much. I really don’t see a reason to pick him in the Top 15, much less Top 10.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So i’ll ask again, have you seen him play at Baylor or at Michigan?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Barely. Seriously, what does he provide other than shot blocking (which, again, we already have, it was just hurt last year)….?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
HE CHANGED BAYLOR
he brought them to the Elite 8, shut down alot of players down low, so tell me, what player on the warriors is capable of doing that now?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He played great in his final year
He also drove his team to the elite 8 and looked great. Unfortunately thats all I think nellie watched and came to the conclusion “BEST PICK AVAILABLE!!!”. Clearly monroe being 6’11 scared nellie, he doesn’t like anyone thats taller than 6’9 in shoes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
he brought them to the Elite 8
Well, he wasn’t exactly the only talented player on that team. Also, there’s real evidence that guys who have strong tournaments and/or who play for teams that go deep in the tournament tend to get drafted higher than they should……
what player on the warriors is capable of doing that now?
Doing what, taking Baylor to the Elite 8….?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously he wasn't the ONLY guy
but he was a shut down player for that team from the 4 and 5 spot, and i dont know anyone on the team now that can shut down a player at the 4 or 5, because Biedrins isn’t that, Turiaf is OK, Randolph isn’t that, Wright, i have no idea
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
We definitely don’t have anyone that’s a shutdown on ball post defender. Agree with that. There just aren’t that many good players like that out there, and I honestly don’t think Udoh is that (even if he does protect the rim well, which is important, but the part of defense our guys actually do decently), and even if he is…..he gives back a whole lot in rebounding and on offense that I just don’t see enough value in it.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
we’ll see, that’s all i can say from here on, we will see what he gives us, and i’m ready to eat crow and you can call me out on it, but i’m sure that he’ll be a solid player his first season
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Ha, and I don’t have thin skin or anything, if I’m wrong feel free to remind me….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No- he had his chance (in the 9th inning last night).
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Best at bat of the night besides zitos last at bat
LOL GIANTS
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Bochy can’t be this stupid/cruel
Everything in his and Brian’s history says otherwise.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The complete lack of any resistance from San Diego when the Giants were courting Bochy is all making sense now…
I wonder if Dodgers fans feel the same way about their GM….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, as to the why
The Giants aren’t hitting significantly more ground balls per balls in play compared to the league average team, but they are hitting more ground balls per PA. This is because they are putting the ball in play significantly more often than the average team – both their K rate and their walk rate are 2nd lowest in the NL (in both cases, only the Astros are lower. That’s odd).
So that’s at least part of it. But they must have been at least a little bit unlucky as well.
I was promised lasagna.
Now, it’s not clear to me exactly what definitions we’re all using here, but generally a HR isn’t considered a ball in play, as well….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but DP-wise, it doesn’t really matter. Flyballs generally don’t cuase DP’s, regardless of whther or not they leave the yard.
I was promised lasagna.
My point we also put more balls in to play because we don’t hit HR’s.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, you’re the one bringing up walks and strikeouts. I’m just adding one more variable that adds to that point.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Walks and strikeouts are important because they aren’t accounted for in GB%. HR’s aren’t, because they are.
I was promised lasagna.
Now, it’s not clear to me exactly what definitions we’re all using here
That’s why I had the disclaimer in the first place!
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Breaking!!!!!
Cain for Fielder lives on….
ESPN Insider is hawking it now as Cain for Fielder but Cain as the bait and the actual deal being Sanchez (dirty) and MadBum for Fielder.
But my favorite part of the story is this:
Michael Hunt wrote last month that it’s time to deal the slugger, because it makes business sense and could help add much-needed pitching to the 25-man roster.
There is really someone named “Mike Hunt”!
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Wait, Sanchez and Bumgarner for Fielder?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Especially when our current best hitter is a 1B himself….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
They could also put Uribe over there if they wanted.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
MadBum would not be a bad 1B, but he is getting traded to the Brewers.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
;-(
/hopes it’s just a rumor
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I knew a guy named Mike Hawk
and his son Michael Hawk Jr.
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You all must be too young to get my obtuse movie references
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It had a mole on it.
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a singer I like called Mick Head
He used to be Michael Head, but staggeringly decided to change it.
by sarf_london_niner on Jun 29, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the hospital today
visiting my brother. We both agreed this team isn’t going anywhere until they rid themselves of Bochy and Sabean. I know not the strongest conclusion, but he was medicated.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I hope your brother was ok after last nights game, my condolences.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
The Giants are so sad
He told me he was happy he was getting a chemo treatment instead of watching the Giants tonight.
He’s in good spirits.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Hope he’s OK at the hospital dude!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He's fine
He was just in for a spinal tap and chemo treatment.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
but Chemo, that can definitely be a struggle, how’s he hangin?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He's more pissed
That it takes so long for the treatments. He had to got to the hospital at 9 this morning and won’t get out till 7 tonight. It’s suprising that the chemo really hasn’t affected him like you would think. He’s barely lost his hair and he never pukes during the treatments. They just take so damn long.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Yea, my mom had to go through that, and it SUCKS, but luckily he’s more pissed about the TIME instead of the loss of the hair, because that shit depresses people, but bring a computer and watch a few movies or something
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He goes to UC Davis Children's Hospital
They have better video games than he does ;-)
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Yup, my mom’s got cancer…. The hair really hit her. It exposes your mortality to an uncomfortable degreee.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Definitely
When I was a kid, my grandfather had lung cancer. He lost his hair and it exposed his mortality to an uncomfortable degree.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
sorry to hear that, bro.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing you have to do, always be there for her and just tell her ya love her! If there’s something to make someone feel better it’s just that!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I know.
Cancer has been all-to-present in my life. It’s all about the little things at this point.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
definitely, and it sucks, both my uncles had it, mom had it, grandma had it… Always about the little things,
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
the way we poison and trash our environment, I’m surprised that we all don’t have cancer
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yea, true, i mean, can’t it be the way you eat/live/and go about life determine if you contract cancer?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i’m sure that would make it even worse because of the shared resources that everything depends on
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why I decided not to be an oncologist…Too damn sad!
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Yup…. Mom, uncles, best friend, grandpas and so on.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Agh, that sucks. For the both of you.
All four of my grandparents died from cancer, but I didn’t have to suffer through the chemo or other treatments since my grandmothers died before I was born, my paternal grandfather decided to go with doctor-assisted suicide right when he found out (he was 75 at the time), and my maternal grandfather lived with pancreatic cancer for 6 months with only a few relatively small treatments before he chose the doctor-assisted suicide route as well (he was 82).
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
yeah, my uncle had pancreatic cancer. That’s some awful stuff.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
that’s what got my dad, but he went quick, thankfully (and he was fine with it, too, at 75 and in generally poor health)
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Unk held on for a year and a half…. Nearly got the Whipple, but the surgeon botched it. But he had two young kids. Sad story.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
wowwww, yea, my mom got to that point where she just didn’t want to deal with it anymore, and it really gets to you, it takes a hell of alot of strength and courage to stick with it, and sometimes it gets the better of you
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
My paternal grandfather did it because he got lung cancer, which is what his wife died from 20 years before. And he figured that if she couldn’t fight it at 55, he would have even less of a chance at 75.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Oh, man, I am so sorry. I had to deal with something like that a few years ago and it was just so, so horrible to see someone suffer like that. I hope your mom gets well soon.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
the only positive thing i can think of to say about molina’s recent performance is that he has thrown out more runners. the past week or so specifically. i suspect it’s more of a lucky streak, but there it is.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Sounds like 30 more starts for me
bork bork bork
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
OT: OMG TWILIGHT ECLIPSE TONIGHT!?!!?!?!?!?!?! HOW BOUT THAT OTHER THAN THIS GAME???
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Tonight? Jesus Christ.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
ARE WE MEETIN’ UP AT MIDNIGHT???
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
i'm so glad i'm not at school with my girl for this
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
you have NO idea
trust me, i know
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Cheating on women is bad i think
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
EVEN 2500 MILES AWAY AND STILL OK!!! SUCK IT!!!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
WHATEVER
ATLANTIC OCEAN AND A CONTINENT BITCH!
/broken up.
It was fun while it lasted! Man, I’m being a downer in this thread.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And, really, you can do the break up five minutes before you hook up with the next person.
Just make sure you get all your paperwork in first!
Good.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
ain’t much fun in reverse, either
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OT - Per Forbes
Most Overpaid
1B – Todd Helton
2B – Julio Lugo
SS – Derek Jeter
3B – Aramis Ramirez
LF – Carlos Lee
CF – Aaron Rowand
RF – Gary Matthews, Jr
C – Gerald Laird
P – Jeff Suppan
DH – Pat Burrell
Best Value
1B – Adrian Gonzalez
2B – Robinson Cano
SS – Troy Tulowitzki
3B – Scott Rolen
LF – Josh Hamilton
CF – Marlon Byrd
RF – Andre Ethier
C – Victor Martinez
P – Josh Johnson
DH – Vladimir Guerrero
They could be Giants...but not really.
I’m very dissapointed we didn’t sign bryd, but then again I wasn’t really for signing him anyway because I didn’t think he had a WAR happy season left in him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL GOATEE
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
Dumb Forbes article is dumb the 2nd year in a row.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I agree with most of those FWIW..
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I just don't like how they go about it
I mean… VORP? really?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
um
it’s pretty accurate though. So however they did it, it made a good list.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I really, really don’t get why the mainstream media seems to like VORP over other, better stats. Basically, anytime MM tries to use “advanced” stats, it seems like it’s almost certain they’ll use VORP, even though it’s conceptually similar to WAR but much worse….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
WAR WHAT IS IT GOOD FORRR
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Because . . .
. . . “VORP” sounds more arcane, and thus sexier, than “WAR”.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
LOL Giants
That Rowand signing becomes worse and worse each day.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
OT: Eliezer Alfonzo was DFA'd by the Mariners
Kids in the back seat cause accidents. Accidents in the back seat cause kids.
Notgardo
Notemployed
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Eliezer Notgonnaworkhereanymore
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Sign him. We need the catching help. Shit if Molina gets hurt then there’s only Whiteside….or Pablo in a pinch I guess.
We should try to get that Feliz kid back
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
Not sure if this is completely stupid, or if I did it completely wrong
So, let me know.
Anyways, just adding 81 outs (the number of GIDPs) to their total makes the team OBP about .300.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
True
And you’d obviously have to do that for every team and try to adjust their entire triple slash. Just thought it would highlight what those do to an offense.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
get well soon
MINNEAPOLIS — Tigers reliever Joel Zumaya will miss the rest of the season with what the team called a non-displaced fracture of the olecranon, a bone at the tip of his right elbow.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Very lucky the bone didn't totally fracture
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
wow, Dravecky-esque
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
oh shit
it happened on the field??
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
yea dude, luckily his career is not fucked
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yikes
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
If they aren't going to play Posey, given
how bad Molina is playing, then Sabes should just send the poor young man down and let him play every day and save the arb clock.
Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.
Can't have him hit against AAA pitching
it would mess us his rythm against real pitching bork bork
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Put him down at AA where the real talent is
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus catching AAA pitchers won’t help his development at C as much as sitting on the bench and occasionally playing 1B.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
why're we talking about average teams?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Why is the Giant dog the smallest hot dog?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
that could be the question of the year
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
probably has something to do with Larry Baer—which game was that at? I think they change size depending on the opponent, date, etc
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This was like 5 or 6 years ago
Its just bothered me since. It seems like a no brainer, the Giant dog should be the biggest most expensive hot dog.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
cubs v giants
Tomko was pitching
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
should be better than a Dodger dog, too.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Really, in Toronto they have a foot long hot dog. Not long was a foot long but plump, that was a lot of dog.
/awaits the innuendo
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
i’m not biting……get it, biting?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember the Super Dog during the last few years at Candlestick was awesome. The hot dog I had at AT&T last year wasn’t all that great.
by Section B, Row 1 on Jun 29, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I got invited to the hot dog tasting contest that the Giants hosted at the ‘Stick after Magowan bought the team. That’s when I met Larry Baer and have had a negative view of him ever since.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 29, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Grizzlies make up for it
They sell foot long dogs thicker than a bratwurst.
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
OT - iPhone video of the day
Not that I dislike the iPhone, but LOL video
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
LOL Phillies
With all their injuries, they have called up Brian Bocock.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
MY POKEMONZ :(
if Utley is gone for an extended amount of time, my season is over.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
My Pokemonz got screwed over a million ways with injuries. I’ll be lucky to see the top half of the standings again.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
this
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I really need to leave work now
I actually took the time to discover that “general manager Brian Sabean” anagrams into ANAL GARBAGE, SEMEN NEAR BRAIN.
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
lol
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
WRECKED!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Holy Shit!
Not only do the Phillies have Brian Bocock, they also have Cody Ransom!
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
MOLINA
You know, I really, truly cannot fathom how he maintains a starting job on this team.
His performance is so very, very, very bad. Whiteside would be a better alternative, although the team is stoopid for not putting Posey behind the plate. He is definitely NOT worse than Molina, and we seem to have an abundance of random fielders that can play on the corner.
I’m now seriously frustrated.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Why he was resigned in the first place is frustrating. They needed to move on and they didn’t. Bringing Molina back for another year was a big mistake, especially after signing him to only a 1 year deal. They should have known he was going to be lazy and petulant because another team didn’t give him a 2-3 year contract.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Actually
The 1-year deal should have been motivation to improve his game. Instead he’s whined and his game is worse.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
He doesn’t see it as motivation. Remember his blog post, where he complains that playing well doesn’t matter because it won’t get you a multi-year deal or much money?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Duh. I misread what you said. What I meant to say is, I agree with Goofus!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Motivation or not motivation, he’s done. His body has just fallen apart. Surprising it took it so long, to be honest.
I was promised lasagna.
This is where I am with him. He’s, what, 35? And a catcher. It was bound to happen, and he’s doing more harm than good at this point.
And not just a catcher, an obese one. I seriously don’t understand how his knees survived this long.
I was promised lasagna.
Greg Papa and Carney Lansford tonight
“They need to get Bengie going, he was the heart and soul of the offense.”
Right. and also bring back Randy Winn to bat 3rd and play RF.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
I wish he was resigned.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I posted it in another thread the other day. I just like to look at it and bask in the ridiculousness.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
WTF!!?
another game I’m going to and I still don’t get to see Buster Posey this sucks.
by 49erEmpire on Jun 29, 2010 3:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not watching tonights game
I will not watch a single game the rest of the year Posey doesnt play in.
LOL You
football begins september 9.
Where's Perry?
by Bballpitcher2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m guessing you mean oblong football.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Handegg.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
America!
Yeah that football
Where's Perry?
by Bballpitcher2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Random, but.
My friend just said tweeted this at me.
aw I asked kruk if he reads mccovey chronicles & he didn’t kno what I was talking about. :( he said he read “cain’d” from baggs
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I mean if you think about it,
if Kruk and/or Kuip monitored this site at all during an actual game, they would sound even MOAR distracted than they already do.
Note to Mike Krukow:
(For the possibility that he might drop in here to lurk.) Mike, I like your broadcasting, I really do, no least sarcasm here. But there are a couple of things you could take note of that would augment your preformance:
1. “Lift and separate” has nothing whatever to do with rocketry, or by metaphoric extension, hitting home runs.
2. “Scenario” is not an elegant variation of “situation” (or “case” or “instance”): it is a somewhat technical term with specialized meanings, but the essence of it is that it refers to a projected course of action, not a present situation.
Meant as constructive, truly.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Jun 29, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you squared it up and backspinned it.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
But I’m a McCovey Chronicles Insider! He said so himself!
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You should bring a sign:
HEY KRUK! READ MY CRAPPY BLOG!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave Fleming knew who I was. Someone sent him a link to one of my broadcaster-fellating posts.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
A link? You’d think he would at least remember the fellatio.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I have told you this before (and prefaced it by saying that I would come off sounding like a first class douchebag), but I know several of the ownership group who are regular readers…
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
That's faptastic!
/drinks beer
/slaps belly
/not conscious of appearance, class whatsoever
/is shown the door while Grant makes the place look nice
/propositions jponry
/gets rejected
/lies about it even after jponry reports it
Dude has a Mac, an iBook and high-tech binoculars. He’s a nurd so of course he’d know you!
They could be Giants...but not really.
So you’re telling me he knows where the App Store is then?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Next thing we know “James Franco” is just a figment of you imagination!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
YES YOU, YOU IMAGINATION YOU!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Matt Kemp just walked out of Torre’s office. Asked what happened: “That’s between me and Joe.”
SAAAAAAABES, I wanna new CF!!!
They could be Giants...but not really.
lol dodgers
this would be awesome. Rowand for kemp! GIT R DUN
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
IAWTC
I would give them molina and velez as extra TOOLZY incentives!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Oh, hello.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Good evening.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Hello.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yo
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
HEY!!!
/awaits a satyricrash photoshop
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
SHIFT+Y!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
SHOULD BE FUN TONIGHT!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
CONS
I don’t know how to win.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
rec'ing in spite of unfortunate font choice
that’s how good it is
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
whats wrong with comic sans?
Where's Perry?
by Bballpitcher2 on Jun 29, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It sucks.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
This is similar to your umbrella opinion in its bogglablity.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
worst font face in the history of typography
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
"Comic Sans Underwear", on the other hand...brilliant
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Not if it’s Patton Oswalt.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
ooof
boner poison
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Boner Poison
BAND NAME ALERT!
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jun 29, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. I’m glad someone is putting a lot of thought into this.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Man, that "Hitler Hates" meme has been done to death
What’s lost in all that is that the movie it comes from is really good.
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh.
It was kind of a mess. But I suppose that was the point.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Downfall was spectacular
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Nothing says foreign and exotic like Papyrus!
Bowkermania has been put on hiatus for retooling.
by rightcenterfielder on Jun 29, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
i read that as Sans People
as if a Star Wars reference. nothing against the real Sans
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Looks shopped
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
So I was gonna watch the game tonight
/looks at lineup
/looks outside
/it’s summer
Fuck you, Bruce Bochy.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
hence why i might just go out and hit the driving range
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
/remembers he's sunburned from the weeked
dammit.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
weekend even
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Meanwhile, back at the topic . . .
. . . I have not the patience to do the homework, but it would be interesting to see just who have been the players involved in all these GDPs. My suspicion is that the answer won’t fit as neatly into the old/fat/slow patterns as expected. It seems to my notoriously poor memory that many, possibly most, of these GDPs have not been particularly close, at either end. It seems to me that it is much more a function of the way the balls have been hit than of who’s running them out.
If—admittedly big “if”—that is so, or nearly so, then it further suggests one or some mix of two cases: pure tough luck, or not-smart batting. The team overall BABIP is virtually league-average; while that doesn’t eliminate the luck possibility, it does reduce its likelihood. Myself, I’d guess at a near-even mix of unlucky and dumb (a very bad combination).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Quick and dirty:
Giants are in the top ten for GB%. They swing at pitches outside of the strike zone 31.2% of the time, second most often among major league teams (Braves are at the bottom with 25.1%). They take a lot of first pitch strikes. Also, there’s a lot of blubber on the team. The whole GIDP thing doesn’t confound reason.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
BamBam, we hardly knew ye.
I certainly agree with the first three sentences; I was, and am, wondering, though, whether the fourth is as relevant as is being taken for granted here (especially given the first three).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Found this; From Jct
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
by sanfrankid on Jun 29, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think mccoverns should take a stand and boycott tonights game
/puts up his grant signal to alert our fearless leader
by DFARowand on Jun 29, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
/Grant sees signal, goes back to doing whatever he's doing
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
i'm boycotting this team
not buying tickets, etc. seriously. F this SH!!
i’ll go support a team that isn’t slow, fat and lazy, like i dunno, the rayz.
LOL BJ Upton
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
CRY, YOU CRY-BABY!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
OK, who was the mastermind behind the Rush facebook thing?
Fess up.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
It keeps popping up in my page!
SHE SAID, I GUESS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Cake were nice people.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
the cake is a lie
the Rush is for real
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Rush is done, Cake is for real
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
FALSE
http://www.rushisaband.com/tour.php
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Pie>Cake
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
by stealth snail on Jun 29, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I predict the giants will do the same
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He’ll show up.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
That right there is enough to make this site riot
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
At this point that's easy
If he does something bad, we’re all mad ‘cause it hurts the team’s chances of winning
If he does something good, we’re all mad because it gives Bochy an excuse to play him again
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
yes
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
If he does something good (When was the last time?) Im happy
But I have this uneasy guilty feeling about it
Bork
/hits HR
/plays for next year
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I know you guys dont like bleacher report, but this is a good article.
At this point, there should be no need for Giants fans to debate over whether or not Bruce Bochy is a quality big league manager.
Simply said, he isn’t one.
If that doesn’t convince you to give it a quick read I don’t know what will, but I’m glad the national media is finally laughing at bork for being a retarded molina homer.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
isn't bleacher report written by fans?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Epic fail on my part
/prays baseball tonight crew rips bork, insults bengie
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
If Bleacher Report can see it, then it’s obvious to everyone.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL – “national media.”
It’s an 18 year old kid with a blog.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
whoops
Epic fail, but I hope the ESPN goons start ripping bork with great haste soon.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yep.
He’s a bit aggressive, probably overcompensating or something, and thus too dogmatic, but by and large he’s about right. (Still hasn’t mastered the concept of total roster usage, but an awful lot of older and supposedly wiser heads haven’t either.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
who's smarter than Bork
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Question
does anyone else keep up with the new top gears? This week’s season premiere was fantastic
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
ReLOLiant Robin
Yes, have been watching since Season 5
That video was one of my favorites they've ever done
captures the show’s tone so perfectly
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
You're drafting strategy is worthless
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Live draft dude, or do you have the time?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
The draft happened while I was in the middle of a long car ride, out of my control. I only have a handfull of my original draftees though
Bork
Oh man, so basically it sucked for you
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
My spot starters have all been disasters, which is all my fault, but my horses have been terrible lately. Hanson in particular.
Bork
Hanson >:(
wtf dude. Im mad at him
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
My fantasy team is pretty much average.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This
in my 14 team k/9 league I got nolasco, beckett, verlander, and Garza as my 4 “big guns”. Hasn’t exactly worked out so far. Verlander’s finally coming around a little, but jojohsyylyulsyyslysylysys chacin has been a godsend with his KZZZZ
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
owch
but when your teams is autopicked, you’re pretty much screwed.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
meh what can ya do about that
roto league? I’m not sure which is worse for injuries like that..probably roto.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
head to head fucking sucks
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
.... what other kind would you prefer?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
um, roto
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Ya missed it!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Boys are icky.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Not really
just wasn’t a very good one
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
/pulls out kama sutra
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
LOL me – I picked my own and they suck. But my laptop froze during one of my first picks and the thing autopicked for me and I ended up with Halladay for that one. So maybe I should have just let it go the rest of the way. . .
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
All the players I picked just suck
That includes Prince Fielder. There was also Grady Sizemore, Curtis Granderson, Chone Figgins, Nick Markakis, and Matt Wieters.
anyone who picks sizemore in FB gets what they deserve IMO
same on Figgins this year. He was screaming “huuuuge disappointment” to me this season
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
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LOLYOU
I just never saw what the deal was with sizemore after looking at his numbers..and Figgins was way over valued this year. Last year I got him for a buck, this year he was like a 5th round pick or something ridiculous.
Markakis, Wieters, and Fielder will all turn it around though.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
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I wish I’d just gone with autopick, too. I didn’t know how the draft worked so I picked 3 1Bs, 2 OFs and 2 closers in the early rounds. I didn’t know we had to pick for each position instead of just picking the best players. :(
I was experimenting with the Bloomberg thingy and it told me to draft Olivo, Pettitte and McGehee (which I did), but then I later realized that they sucked so I dropped them. LOL ME
They could be Giants...but not really.
I was clueless about what kinds of pitchers to get. It was my first time playing. Hopefully I’ll do better next year.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
the first year is always an adventure
that said, my first FB year last season I finished 3rd in both leagues. WOOT WOOT
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Oh yeah – OPS is one of my weakest spots.
And, to make things worse, I picked up and stashed C Santana and held on to him for weeks. But he seemed to be way far away from the big league, and I needed more bodies. I spent a few hours looking around for info on when he might be called up – everything said not until August. So I dropped him. And later that same night it was announced that he was going to be called up the next day. Goddamn.
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… then I picked him up off waivers and traded him, and the next day my regular catcher (Victor Martinez) got injured. Bad karma all around.
Not the word I would have used. =(
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It was just the same day, which was priceless
I tried to pick him up, but somebody had a higher priority
Bork
I tell you – I spent so long looking at it. I wanted to make sure I was right. And I was so very very very wrong.
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Ooooh, that was you? I was so mad that you out-scooped me on him (when IIRC you already had SIRM) that I went kinda prospect-mad and added Pedro Alvarez, Drew Storen and Mike Stanton. :)
Oh and I traded for Santana so now I have him. I hope polo grendel enjoys Babs on his roster more than I did!
They could be Giants...but not really.
Well, I needed somebody.
(I really am bad at this)
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Hey man, I would have traded for SIRM. I had AJ Pierzynski – BLEEEEEEEEECH!
I just didn’t have anyone you were interested in.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Oh man
I stopped paying attention to my team about a month ago, though now that I look, it’s right where I left it at #7.
I was promised lasagna.
Um, certainly not me.
/overmanages roster
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That's even more than me!
/48
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Yeah well, I have dire needs at catcher, 3B and SS! I think I’ve added/dropped like 20 3Bs alone.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I’ve got a couple okay 3B (although Freese will probably hit the DL). If Rollins can stay healthy I’m okay at SS. But I need some more security at 2B.
Oh, and fuck Heyward for going on the DL.
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IKR
I have heyward in every league
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David freese ftw!
my offense has been awesome but there’s been MANY a failed spot start pitcher in there
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I’m still trying to find a good couple of SPs. I need more Ks.
I do notice that Slowey gets moved around a lot. He was so shiny at the start of the season, and you keep thinking he’ll do something good, and then you realize he won’t, and then you drop him. He’s hit at least half the teams in the league.
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HE'S THE LEAGUE MATTRESS!
….
….
….
SP is always a beeyach to find.
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he's been awesome
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I made many blockbuster trades right after my team was autopicked. Molded it much more to my liking.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
it took me 12 minutes,
but i finally finished reading this thread. i have learned nothing.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
SUNSCREEN GIVES YOU CANCER
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AND LLAMAS LOVE RUSH BUT LARS ISN'T SO SURE
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LOL Mets
Two outs nobody on and the pitcher up. He singles and the Marlins wind up scoring six runs before they get the third out.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 5:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
LOL MESS
Finally reverting back to form.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
/looks at tonights lineup again
Puts in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
Begins killing motherfuckers
PS3 or Xbox? I’m waiting for the new DLC map pack on Tues for the PS3.
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Look for me later – cornToTheHolio.
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lol
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god I love that game
the original or MW2? I’m partial to COD 4
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Even though I don't own either ATM
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They’re both awesome in their own ways. Right now I’m playing MW2.
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I like them both, but what I dislike is them giving us recycled maps in MW2 and charging us for them again.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The small justification is that they’re the best maps in the whole pack. Which just upsets me even more.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen the ones for the new pack? The Carnival map looks pretty cool. And the trailer park one, too.
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I didn’t buy the new pack but I’ve played them at a friends house. They’re definitely better than the previous pack.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I gotta wait until Tuesday for the PS3 availability.
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Even though i have a 360 I think it’s lame how much later the maps come out on PS3, I could see a week or so of exclusivity, but it’s way too long.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Xbox pays for the privilege, no doubt. But yeah – sucks.
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I don't care what happens tonight, Chris Farley Baby made my day... big picture is big (subject line)
/first time seeing this
Buster sitting again tonight is shit.
Fuck Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean, even if we won a WS this year I’d beg for their resignation because it sure as hell wouldn’t be because of them.
I wish I had a way of mass communicating to all Giants fans to encourage the boycotting of all Giants games until Buster is the starting catcher. Empty seats might be the only thing that wakes these guys up.
Jeaaaggaahh
How can bruche bochy continually play molina every day and not take shit from the giants front office? Are they really that fucking clueless or is the entire orginization really convinced that without bengie molina they can’t win?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
/buys front office gift subscription to baseball-reference.ocm
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
/Tells front office to actually watch the games
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Too busy doing his job, which we couldn’t do!
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean must be the best, otherwise someone else would be GM!
Pretzel Logic!
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The guy obviously knows what he's fricking doing, why do you think he's been around so long?
- gary radnich
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
funny that gary radnich would say that
he would know, as someone who’s been around for a long time for reasons not pertaining to his actual talent.
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He's talentless and annoying, so apparently he has incriminating photos of his bosses.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
his show is the most entertaining of all of them, and he often admits that he doesn’t know anything. He rarely even talks about sports.
by aaroncallagher on Jun 29, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Are they really that fucking clueless or is the entire orginization really convinced that without bengie molina they can’t win?
I think both of these apply.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they go hand in hand.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm getting to the point where I just don't give much of a shit about the Giants anymore. It's difficult to care when the management and FO are such fucksticks.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but all my teams are like that, what else am I supposed to do?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Pass time reading Hank Greenwald's autobiography.
It’s only half or less about San Francisco and the Giants, but that half is quite interesting. (Just finished it last night.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Hank will always be my favorite
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
booing would also be good
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Is it a who or what?
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I like it when the guy with the owl icon says “who.”
by Evan on Jun 29, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s taking the night off to go see Eclipse.
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TEAM BUSTER!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Twilight?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Never read one of the books, never plan on seeing a movie.
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Oh, I misread on my part.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Epic regression
5th walk on the season, what a scrub.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Why oh why did I not draft him
in EverY league. He was slightly undervalued too. :(
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OT: IPHONE FOR THE VERIZON!?!?!?!?!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
BE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO HOLD THE PHONE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
this will never fucking happen
why do people keep saying it?
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By january dude, WHY DONT YOU READ A NEWSPAPER OR SOMETHING
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
this is never going to fucking happen
ever. Never never never. Ever. NEVER.
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HAHAHAHAHA, SUCK IT BONDSLEGEND, should have waited on buying the droid
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Dude
it’s never going to fucking happen! Why the fuck would apple waste time and money making a new phone that would only work in the US? What the hell? Why do people think that they’d make a CDMA phone?
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WHY? possibly because Verizon is THE BEST NETWORK, and it’s going to happen dude, been reported on every network i’ve watched tonight and plus online
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
K, i take it back bondslegend, YOU WIN THIS TIME!!!! BUT NOT FOR LONG
still i’ll take a droid
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Ok
people don’t find out what apple will do in 6 months. Ever. It is not going to happen.
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droid x ftw
though altell was bought by ATT, so maybe we’ll get the iphone here soon. Maybe.
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I’ll take the Droid>>>Iphone for the next year or so
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
no thanks
I’m sick of the droid already
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Mine's been working pretty well, still liking it
i can deal for another year
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Or maybe go to the iphone once they come out with it for verizon
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
lol do me a favor and hold your breath for that
the droid is ok, just a little too slow.
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/GIZMODO READIES VERIZON BASHING ARTICLES!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Beanball in Baltimore
Barton gets hit between the numbers. Mazzaro hits Lugo between the numbers.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions
Only the 5th inning
Fosse was going apeshit…lol
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This was a great post. Thanks!
by Not Grant Pretending To Be Someone Else on Jun 29, 2010 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
troll
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 29, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
flag’d
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
"He’ll be back in there tomorrow, but we’re trying to mix this up. He’s going to be catching a little bit more, but he’s just getting another day today. We’ve got Edgar out there at short, who’s been swinging well. And we’ve got Juan and Sanchez, and Pablo has been swinging better from the left side, so I just decided to give Buster another day."
He’s won the LF position….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
THIS IS THE SAME FUCKING LINEUP AS YESTERDAY
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
But Molina moved up a spot, and Rent (who’s swinging well) is batting 8th (because that’s where you put guys who are swinging well), SO THINGS ARE MIXED UP NOW! Quit whining and enjoy the game!
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That's all that's swimming in the extraordinarily large head of Brucefucking Bochy
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
His head has to be large . . .
. . . to contain so much folly. It’s all got to fit somewhere.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
This is complete crap.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS, so much THIS
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
"we've got all these guys playing well"
“so i figured I’d bench another guy who could be playing well for one that isn’t. We can’t have TOO many good hitters at once!”
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/gets up and leaves, costanza style
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George: I had 'em, Jerry. They loved me.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
He named all the positions other than the one Buster actually plays?
by kingofthacove on Jun 29, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster should just not show up at the park tonight, and go see a movie instead.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 29, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Then he’d get the Anthony Randolph label. “Young player not dedicated to team, busy being social while teammates are pouring out their hearts and souls on the court [field]!”
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Alex Pavlovic better than Baggs.
Look, I’m not here that often, and I’m not privy to any of what the brain trust is thinking. But — and this is just my humble opinion — I’d love to see Buster catching every Matt Cain start as well. And to keep moving forward from there. Cain certainly qualifies as a savvy veteran at this point, who could work with a rookie catcher, and if you exclude Sanchez (who loves throwing to Whiteside), Cain seems like the easiest to catch out of the group of Lincecum, Cain, Zito. Look at his fangraphs stats … he throws his fastball nearly 70 percent of the time.
Plus a lot of the other guys on this staff rely heavily on the mental aspect, where Cain seems to be more of a "country hardball" type of guy. I think he could work well with Posey. The Giants are intent on bringing Posey along slowly behind the plate, but Bumgarner and Cain would seem like a pretty good combination that could get Buster back there for two out of every five games. Until he’s ready for more.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
memo
he is ready for more right now.
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He’s right. If Buster is gonna catch one of the “Big Three”, it should be Cain.
They could be Giants...but not really.
He can catch any and all of them, for fuck’s sake. It’s not rocket science. He’s got the basic skills. Let him use them.
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"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yes. But if I’m Bochy and I’m trying to stick to my “let’s try to get him behind the plate for just a few games, can’t let him get rusty BORK BORK”, then Cain would be the easiest of the three to catch.
But your statement is correct, managerial stupidity aside, he should be the starting catcher.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Man Ichiro has a .391 OBP
And has a higher SLG than Pablo Sandoval.
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So the office is probably over
kind of like shooting the lame dog…sad, but it really needed to be done.
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I can’t believe Steve Carrel think the series is going to continue without him
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 29, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
At least they'll have a final season to finish it off
the show needs to end either way. It was going downhill all of last season.
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Jim and Pam should never have gotten together, let alone married
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 29, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The Office ended at least 2 seasons ago, as far as I’m concerned…
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry guy I know this is going to get me heat again
But I hope we lose tonight
The worst thing they can possibly do is to go .500 before the all star break, hang around in 3rd place, be 5 games out and make Brian Sabean do the “we’re in it till the end” thing.
If we are not going to play our best players, then let’s hope to God that we come out of the trading deadline with all our pieces for the future in tact. Either go 9-4, or just lose as much as possible.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I hope we win
And Bengie goes 0-4.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
i think i've heard this maybe 100 times this season
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I've posted it before every game for at least a month now
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
not a hundred times... but yea, so redundant
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It won't matter
two words: vinny castilla. If they want bengie gone they have to DFA him or he’ll play the majority of the time.
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Fixed
I hope we win And Bengiegoes 0-4explodes.
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I want a joel zumaya injury
it needs to be something like that to get him the fuck off the field.
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I generally try to avoid wishing injury or ilness on others being a doctor and all, but
in this case, WHATEVER IT FUCKING TAKES
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I do too
but, like I’ve said 1000 times, this is just like dilfer in 07. He has to get injured in order for a team-helping change to be made.
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he doesn't put out enough effort to make it possible to get injured
he basically walks the bases, waves at “wild pitches” and wipes the pizza sauce off his lips.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
If we win, Bengie will get credit for calling a good game. Obviously, his actual performance doesn’t matter to our management very much.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That guy swings a fierce stick, hell of a pitcher to.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200904080.shtml
Also, did you know he made his MLB debut against us?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that game
that sucked. I had him in POKEMONZ and was not happy.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
But just think about this and it’s all so much better:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200507280.shtml
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That line up is terrifying
And you know bork was like “Mmm we’re in a great position to score runs and drive the ball with this baby”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
You know it’s bad when Brad Hennessey is your best hitter….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I was talking about the line up against the brewers from last season, the one from 2005 is almost as bad though. You get rid of moises alou and its like LOL WUT?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Wow
Forgot that cameron burned us with a dinger, and then gallaro burned us even worse with a LOL 3 RUN DINGER.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Bunch of horseshit.
I can’t stand the Bochulism. Makes my eyes hurt. See y’all when the game starts.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OT: Pokemon Stadium
My 4 year old has become quite the trainer on Pokemon Stadium (N64). She beats the older kid quite often.
Good times.
/raising little nerbs
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
That game was so much better than Pokemon Snap.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 29, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Also contained the greatness of the N64.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I fell asleep on my couch and sweated so much I woke up soaking wet
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions
It was all around my neck, so, no.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Um……
/decides to not get too gross
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
/starts humming ZZTop’s Pearl Necklace…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 30, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
And you say that boys are icky?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That is so unsettling
I once had a fever break in the middle of the night and sweated so much that I had to change my sheets AND my mattress was soaked. Felt freaking weird waking up. I was like "wow, I either wet the bed to an unbelievably epic scale, or that’s all sweat.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
OT: The Zapruder tapes were found!
That podcast of Kruk saying Bengie should sit is here (10:30)…
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Cliff lee is really good
Sure is hilarious watching him challenge all the yankee hitters and them getting enraged over called strikes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOLidge
Got the first 2 outs, then a walk, a single, and a game tying 3 run shot courtesy of Joey Votto.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 6:42 PM PDT reply actions
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