Post-game thread: Giants throw a Molotov cocktail at our soul
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 28, 2010 10:58 PM PDT
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PrintOrganizational scapegoat Aaron Rowand had a very, very nice at-bat in the ninth inning. He worked the count full, spit on some close pitches, and ripped a single into center field. Organizational darling Buster Posey didn’t have a bad at-bat, per se, but he flailed at the one pitch he couldn’t flail at. And that’s the story of the offense right now. Even when the Giants get an unexpected lift from an unlikely source, it doesn’t matter because everyone is swinging a dead cat right now.
Also, Pablo Sandoval might not be the worst baserunner in the game, but, brother, he’s not good. He’s a good soldier, though, as the city would have burned to the ground if Molina hit into a double play the next at-bat. Which he would have. So that was very sweet of Pablo.
And, hey, if Casey Blake never existed, then manbeast Carlos Santana would still be on the Dodgers. So when the McCovey Chronicles time machine is operational -- and it will be, once I get my hands on some technetium-99 -- Blake’s parents are safe. Let’s think big picture.
It’s easy to blame Santiago Casilla for the 3-2, 97 MPH meatball over the heart of the plate. And it’s not like he doesn’t deserve a good portion of the blame, but a terrible offense will always magnify bullpen struggles.
Also, that game was awful. Two consecutive wins, and I’ll forget all about it. Get on it, Giants.
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I fucking hate the Dodgers.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions
So yeah,
fuck this shit and all.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
With Bochy as manager and Sabean as GM
This is definitely not fun.
2012! 2012!
Just before the calendar runs out!
by Every6thDay on Jun 28, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck it all
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Fuck it, I will kill everyone
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
GO FOR IT, how's your paper?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
White and rectangular.
I finished my story, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
well, congrats on the completion of your story,
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Also on the shape and color of the paper you used!
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
I’ll admit, that was the toughest decision. In the end, I went with the old classic.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe use orange construction paper next time?
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
If it fits the story.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, Pablo Sandoval might not be the worst baserunner in the game, but, brother, he’s not good. He’s a good soldier, though, as the city would have burned to the ground if Molina hit into a double play the next at-bat. Which he would have. So that was very sweet of Pab
That was genius grant, and 100% true. It’s unfortunate that bengie avoids blame though, that’s another 15 starts for him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Obviously, things would have played out differently, but could you imagine this site if Molina hit into a double play on a ball that Blake had to dive for?
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 28, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
McPocalypse 2011
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
...
DEAR LORD, I’M IN THE FUTURE
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Hey, the future has no bengie molina!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you pick me up a sports almanac while you’re there?
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Sure, I’ll get you the memorial addition with Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean on the cover after they were both tragically killed in a horrific automobile accident.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you willing to change your definition of the word "consecutive"?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I'm tired
of people blaming the Manager.
idiot pumpkin head IS an idiot
but eventually – players gotta play
or, NOT, in the Giants case.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 28, 2010 11:04 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, but you simply can’t stress how much of an idiot he is. How can you take Burrell’s bat out of a tie game for a pinch runner that’s not even fast? It’s one thing if you have a speedster on the bench who can score on a medium fly to right, like Scott couldn’t, and it’s another to pull one of your few hitters who can go deep for someone who’s simply less slow.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 4:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m tired of bengie molina blocking our jesus prospect and causing a black hole in the bottom of the line up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
used to getting blamed
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
by PiKAgiant on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m blaming Velez.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's plenty of blame to go around
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
You’re right, eventually Posey has to play. At the expense of Molina. So I can blame idiot pumpkin head until that happens.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t know how this summer could get any worse
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Not just sports wise... but that would be epic fail
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
But yea, too much bullshit, i still need to lift weights tonight
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Yea dude, usually that or golf… but shit, one thing that’s not depressing, checking out my stepbrothers girlfriend’s roommate, OH MY
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
All i’m saying is that my step mom tried to hook me up, well aware that i had a girlfriend!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
o.O
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
wtf
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i honestly have no idea either
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Clear sign that nobody likes your girlfriend.
by Every6thDay on Jun 28, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m definitely getting that impression, hell it’s one thing friends say it, it’s another when family says it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Doesn’t the McCoven have it in for her too?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, started when i said she brought up “open relationship”
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Dude, I don’t mean to be harsh, but where I come from that’s French for ‘I want to cheat on you’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct
It is French for “I am already cheating on you”.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I was trying not to be harsh…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
When I started dating my girlfriend, her mom sometimes tried to set her up anyway.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
even his thread comments aren't sequential
by Every6thDay on Jun 28, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
He's more parallel
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 29, 2010 4:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s not a big deal.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Your gf's mom just loves her a lot..
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
HAD
key word
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Oh lol, my bad
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Pika’s subconscious knows what’s up.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm sometimes witty...
got to get shit straight tho with the girl
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Why i'm going up there this weekend
it’s weird because she’s one of those girls who i swear i’ve seen before somewhere… but in reality i’ve never seen her… She’s pretty attractive, JUST SAYING
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
What's up with the morals?
Sounds like you have every excuse, here.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
We're here for you
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 28, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
first laugh i've had all night
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
wreck’d
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
PiKA's got some nice hands
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Oh, I meant the furry hands
We all know why….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Perspective:
I really don’t know how this summer could get any worse. You could discover you have cancer. That is not meant to be flippant: it really is a matter of perspective.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I just saw the trailer for the 7th Harry Potter movie
It features two major parts of the story’s climax. That seems odd.
Or would you all like to discuss the game?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Hell no.
I’m gonna start looking for any marathon that starts with “Star”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Voldemort doesn’t have a nose.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG SPOILER WARNING
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
You just got SWOOPED.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I just watched it
A couple things.
1) LOL at “The motion picture event of a generation”
2) IN 3D! When is every movie gonna be in 3D?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
HATE the new 3D craze.
It doesn’t look as 3D to me as the older tech stuff did, for some reason. And I sure as hell don’t like paying more for it
That, and not every movie needs to be in 3D. “DRIVING MISS DAISY” in 3-D BIATCHES!!!!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I think people are forgetting that Harry Potter is first and foremost a series of books, not movies. THE END OF THE EPIC SAGA, WHICH ACTUALLY ENDED 3 YEARS AGO.
I know people who love the movies but haven’t bothered to read the books.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 28, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, so you've met my students?
I agree.
And, as inevitably happens when any half decent novel is translated (transcribed, howie?) to film, things are lost or changed and it doesn’t seem as good.
The Harry Potter films are no exception. They’re not terrible, but if you haven’t read the source material, you’re really missing out.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
The one that really hit home on this point
I read “Prisoner of Azkabahn” after having seen the movie (that movie actually was the one that convinced me to start reading the books because it was the first one that actually showed that these stories were more than just fluff and “teehee, look at the whimsical world of magic!”).
When I read the book I was amazed at some of the absolutely important details that were left out of the movie.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Yeah. They did that a lot with the later books.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
To be fair, they had to.
As with any novel over 200 pages. And the later books get longer, and LONGER, (and not necessarily better…)
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Sure, there are always things to cut
But some of the choices on what to cut were…questionable.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Absolutely.
There are many things I would do differently if I were to make these movies, but it seems like they have generally gone for the “fluff” aspect that thehavenot referred to above.
Taking into consideration that several of these films were completed before the last books (again, of considerable length) were even WRITTEN, I think they did ok. Yes, Rowling was there to advise things, but every author will tell you that the story changes dramatically from where it’s going in their heads to what ends up on paper, let alone what ends up on a movie screen.
If they’d been around as a completed series for several decades like, say, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I would be far harsher in my critique.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I still hope that in like 10 years or so, BBC will do an epic miniseries of all seven books.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOTR
Speaking of questionable decisions.
Obviously they had to cut things from those books (LOTR). I don’t understand why they felt they needed to add things.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Meh.
I disagreed with several things in that series, but couldn’t think of ways to practically do it better with that budget and that tech.
It will be a long time before someone outdoes that series, and considering how superior it is to the other incarnations that came before it (I’m looking at YOU, creepy 70s cartoons), I’m ok with it.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of the movies
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
LOL youtube comments
I was in the first grade when I watched the first Harry Potter movie and it was the first Harry Potter : D I really like Harry Potter over all and I can’t wait for this
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
My take on the Sandoval baserunning
Honestly, I blame Flannery. If I was Panda and saw that hit, I would have tagged up and been just as far toward second by that point, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THROWING TO HOME TO TRY TO GET ROWAND.
Unfortunately, Rowand did a rather circuitous loop reminiscent of some of our outfielders, a fantastic is-it-worth-it-to-try-and-score-when-the-game-is-tied jig, ultimately stayed, and Panda was left holding the bag. Just my take, but that’s what I saw.
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Maybe, but I still think he's a scapegoat on this one. Rowand had plenty of time to score or at least elicit a throw.
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nice try, but this is 100% on pablo
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 28, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Edgar should have hit the ball 10 feet farther
left, right, backward — that would have scored a run
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
up up down down left right left right b a b a start
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IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
ok, but i think we’re just talking about the baserunning aspect
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, not really...
…but I’ll assume you were expressing pleasure at my humor and say thanks.
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Honestly, the fact that he hit into three of our five DPs tonight put him at the top of my shitlist
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
How about not using pinch runners that are slow?
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 5:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
disagree
It was clearly too shallow to score Rowand. You could see from the throw that was cutoff he would have been out by a mile. I have no idea what the fuck Pablo was doing.
by Into the Void on Jun 28, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
truly a nutty move by Pablo. That's why they have a cut off man.
at the last second the catcher yells if he wants it cut. Rowand can’t try that with nobody out. It was suicide.
So the catcher sees him not coming, sees Pablo, and yells “cut 2” to the cutoff man.
What was Roberto Kelly doing, rubbin one off? seriously, what was he doing? he’s the first base coach, what was he doing? what did he say? I don’t know if I have ever seen a coach benched, but the giants coaches deserve it.
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Rowand wasn’t scoring on that play. It was way too shallow. I can understand why Pablo went, but it doesn’t change the fact that he shouldn’t have.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
I really can’t understand why Pablo went. You can’t just “assume” that the throw is going home, it was just too shallow.
by Into the Void on Jun 28, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He went because he thought Rowand was running and the throw was going home.
That’s not so hard to understand.
The fact that it was stupid is another story.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That may be the best summative compromise of this discussion.
Thank you.
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Ok. But maybe a better question is “why did he think Rowand was running?” Did he assume it or was he told from the 1B coach that he would be running? Maybe he was told to tag and it isn’t his fault at all, who knows.
by Into the Void on Jun 28, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Occam’s Razor tells me that he knew the play and just screwed it up before he really thought about it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It would’ve been perfectly reasonable to stay at first base while Rowand did whatever he was doing at third. Just fucking stand on the base. Don’t move
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to argue that.
But it still doesn’t address why Rowand wasn’t going in the first place.
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Didn’t see the play but I know sometimes a baserunner will give themselves up in order to let the runner from 3rd score. At a glance it may look like a terrible baserunning mistake but in reality they were just trying to draw the throw.
I’m not saying this was the case last night. I just wanted to point out that it happens sometimes.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
It wasn’t the case this time.
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by can of corn on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Remove the possibility of a sixth double play this game?
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agree 100%
doesn’t matter if Rowand would have been thrown out or scored. No reason to stray off of first. Just plain stupid baserunning.
by Into the Void on Jun 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree
Pablo had to look at where that ball was caught and know that Rowand was going to bluff.
You just don’t run with zero outs on a ball that shallow. It’s all on Pablo.
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Pablo is the blame
obviously he knows it, i’m gonna leave it at that, it’s done, hindsight
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
eh. I think Rowand would have been pretty fucking out on that play.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
What is the stat?
No Boch-coached Giants team has had a winning streak longer than 5 games?
Have had losing streaks as long as 8?
You have to go back to 2007 to find any win streak longer than 5. The Giants went 6-0 twice that year.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
hell, i might as well watch more Grizzlies games than giants games
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
They’ve been failing as of late, though. Lost 17-11 last night, 13-7 tonight. Had a five game losing streak last week.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK, that’s more runs than i’ll see at ATT anytime
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Yeah, they actually have a competent and stable lineup down there most of the time.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell that to Thomas Neal. Another four hits with a HR tonight.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 5:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Neal is Real!!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
And have him bring johnny bowker with him.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YEAH
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Renteria’s quick, almost sheepish, glance to the left after he lets out his big “Ohh shit!” makes me smile. So, uh, something about this game makes me smile, I guess?
I’ve been fearing the worst about the games leading up the All-Star Break, and today did not calm those fears.
I am praying every night that bengie molina only makes lincecum starters after the ASB. Unfortunately I’m foolish thinking that will happen, but I can dream.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
You could make the case that we have one of the toughest schedules in the NL West between now and then. We need to win badly, and the deck is stacked higher against us than many other teams.
Not making excuses, just trying to be realistic. July might be a bitch of a month.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
the Douchers just got reamed by the Angels, Red Sox and Yankees
their schedule was much tougher
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
You are correct.
But I was talking about what’s coming up, not what already happened.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Tomorrow looks promising...
Matt Cain vs. The Dodgers, career:
Games Started: 13
W-L: 0-7
IP: 76.1
Hits: 90
K/BB: 56/37
BAA: .301
WHIP: 1.66
ERA: 4.13
that would be ideal
becuz im going tomorrow
slowly dying, one giants game at a time
by SirPsycoSexy on Jun 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain’d: Beucase having a career record above .500 is over-rated.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on Jun 28, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
time for progression to the mean
13 games is still SSS!!!
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 28, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL someone I know on twitter just tweeted that she yelled “SUCK IT RUSSELL MARTIN” at Russell Martin.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
IAWTC
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It's burns
It really, really burns.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:17 PM PDT reply actions
I’m having trouble typing through the tears.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
One player i really like this season? Ishi
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Agreed. He’s giving me a reason to like him rationally.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Spot starter/pinch hitter, definitely doing well
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He's not really even a spot starter..
2 starts this year, 70 games in.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
FP Santangelo's Crest Top Performer of the Game..
The Double Play.
He's not retired...THANK YOU!
I imagine kuip picked molina again for going up there and “working the count” and keeping the team calm and calling a great game.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but wasn't it Kruk that picked Bengalina before?
Last week?
by mrs. owlcroft on Jun 28, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
He always picks bengie, especially in embarrassing losses to try and protect him from KNBR callers wrath.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you ever considered that he might consider talking in a harshly negative way about the players, and especially the veteran players, to be a sort of betrayal? That his verbal gyrations might be his contribution to the overall good of the team (in his eyes anyway)?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't doubt it . . .
. . . not in the least. I well remember Kruk from his playing days, and he was ferociously dedicated to the game and to his concepts of the game (not quite the same things). I still recall his answer to a question I was asking various guys on and off as background for a chapter of the book i was writing: “Do you think baseball players are artists?” Let’s just say that it was affirmative and emphatic. He would indeed think of dissing any current—or past—Giant as a form of betrayal of his concept of the game. What he might say in private over one or two of a refreshing beverage of one’s choice might be another matter.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Don’t they also travel with the team? I’m sure they have to keep things at least moderately civil. If they were absolutely ripping the players that would make for one uncomfortable work / travel environment.
At least as fans we’d feel at bit more sanity knowing that one person besides damon bruce is on our side. I love kruk, but his molina defense attorney rants are extremely old and tired.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
On the bright side, I was very productive tonight.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
lol, i'll ask it again, how'd your paper turn out
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Iz all good.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been working on this story off and on (very heavy on the off) for about four years now. I finished a penultimate draft late last year, which I used to get into Grad School with. Since then, I’ve been pretty bad about knocking out the final edits. On the one hand, it’s kind of my first ever completed labor of love, and it’s really hard to do the work on something like that that means I will never work on it again. On the other hand, I’ve just been lazy.
But I spend the few days knocking out the last draft. All I have left are cosmetic changes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I write good see. Sentences all not bad or anything.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
One day, we're going to find out that you have multiple personalities
And that’s why you reply to yourself a lot.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Aw, Natto and howie are our resident tormented artists!
…unless they’re the same supertalented person…
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Aw, Natto and howie are our resident
tormentedtortured artists!
they are giants fans after all.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
That reminds me that I have to revise a paper for my PhD apps
Woohoo fun!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Nice.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
At some point would it be possible to read this completed story?
I understand you might not want anyone reading it, yet.
Of course, maybe it will get published and then you can direct us on how to buy it.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Yeah, let us know which issue of Penthouse it’s going to be in.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, plenty of people already read the penultimate version, which is one reason I feel as confident as I do that this the end of the road for this one. There’s no guarantee I can get it published, but I do think I’d like to see if I can get it published before offering it up to everyone.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course
I understand completely.
And I would have been shocked had you said that nobody had read the story, yet.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
So when will I be able to purchase it at Borders?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Jun 28, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I also write.
It’s a lonely, laborious pass time.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’ve almost gotten all of my hw done! Before midnight!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Awesome!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 28, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That beats my personal best.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that why some of us think you're a series?
You were reproducing?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I made myself feel bad.
I went to the Cain motivational poster thread and I found this:
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Jamie moyer esque
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 28, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget...
That he also stole a cop’s bike, while awesome and hilarious, maybe one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of anyone doing.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
it's all good guys
I’m goin to the game tomorrow. Giants are 3-0 so far when I go and it’ll be 4-0 remember this.
by 49erEmpire on Jun 28, 2010 11:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
/resists the urge to rub 49erEmpire on things for good luck
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
the giants fans behind me at the game
were convinced manny was an ex-giant and tried multiple attempts at a “traitor” chant. then, when they played that god-awful game of guessing the players’ jersey numbers and cain, sandoval, and renteria were chosen, they didn’t “know who the hell these guys are”… that said, they were infinitely better than the tool in the doyers jersey who didnt take off his shades until the SEVENTH INNING and erupted in elation when posey struck out. godamit i hate the doyers.
So many people to inflict pain upon, so little time.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Did you watch the Laker series?
Everyone was wearing shades the entire game.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
I saw some tool wearing shades at 1 in the morning last weekend.
My wife was the only thing stopping me from taunting him.
But, allowing for his sweater tied around his neck and obnoxiously fake tan, complete with docker pants and loafers with no socks, she allowed me to refer to him as “Douchey McFagerson” for the rest of the evening.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
are you sure the sweater wasn’t actually a doyers snuggy?
by NeifiPerezz on Jun 28, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
/shrugs
I was most troubled by the fact that he was conducting himself as if he really expected to make a positive impression on the world, and wasn’t just on his way to some theme party.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
never seen so many douches in one arena
by 49erEmpire on Jun 28, 2010 11:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Looking forward to tomorrows game!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
@JeffFletcherAOL: After much research, I’ve found tonight was the first time the #sfgiants ever used a PH for Pablo Sandoval. (excluding once he got hurt).
I like that it came one AB after he got a base hit
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was kinda wondering if it was punishment for his baserunning.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
One after he had a cranial-rectal inversion on the basepaths too.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 28, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Casilla . . .
. . . and Bautista. “Open can of gas.” Each. You read it here first (remember?). Even Kuip & Kruk were saying about as much.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
/something about borrowed time.... or borrowed credit
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Those were the only 2 runs Casilla has coughed up since June 1.
And he’s only allowed 3 runs in his 16 appearances this year in just 2 games.
How about the Giants’ opposition this evening?
Weaver’s last 16 appearances: 4 runs in 2 games.
Belisario’s last 16 appearances: 3 runs in 3 games.
Kuo’s last 16 appearances: 1 run in 1 game.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
ha.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Can Grant do what he did for Jonathan Sanchez’s no hitter and just lament that he’ll never see a Giants World Championship in his lifetime already?
THANK YOU
for that happy thought. Like many here, I was able to actually watch that as it unfolded, and it was awesome to share at least that slice of positive Giants history (Uribe notwithstanding.)
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
In a way, I am honored that the pixels that I put together are featured so prominently. But mostly, my soul is crushed. Freaking Dodgers.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Like a great deal of art, beauty comes from pain.
Thanks for your gif(t).
Just promise us you’ll make an equally cool one from a Giants walkoff homer to win the division or something.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
He's definitely been sloppier.
I certainly chalk this up more to our five double plays than his allowing two runs.
A bad combo, but still. Someday we’ll be rooting for a team that doesn’t fear a two run deficit in the third.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
It didn’t hurt Zito that Torre decided to rest Kemp, Loney and Martin. It hurts even more that we were beat by less than their best.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 5:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm honestly thinking of exiling myself from the Giants until Bengie gets canned.
So … see you guys in 2012
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
Fuck Bochy
How dare he criticize Lincecum’s conditioning when he continues to write the name of that washed up, old, nine months pregnant motherfucking Molina into the lineup every night.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 5:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This
Where did he criticize lincecums conditioning? Why doesn’t that fucking clueless douche bag tell bengie and pablo to get in shape? Oh that’s right he’s a fucking moron who’s afraid to hurt the feelings of fattys, so he insults his actual in shape players.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
In Baggs’ story yesterday, he quoted Bochy as saying, “other parts of the game like conditioning, play a role. That could be the case with Timmy.”. Still waiting for the condtioning complaint about his catcher.
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
“I think Timmy will tell you other parts of the game, like conditioning, can play a role,” Bochy said. “Matt Cain will tell you it helped change him. He turned it up a notch in the conditioning part. That could be the case with Timmy.”
That should be a fun meeting! Cain said that when he got called into Boch’s office, he wasn’t happy, things got confrontational and his first reaction was, “Hey, what the hell is going on here?”
I assume that was followed by something like, “Of all the players on this team, you’re seriously picking on ME?”
They could be Giants...but not really.
Not that I don’t think better conditioning helped out Cain nor that I don’t imagine Tim could be in better shape, but Bochy needs to review his list of most out of shape players on the team before he calls out guys like that.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Basically, if it’s a talented young C who should be taking away a job from an old not very good C…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So if timmy needs “better conditioning” then bengie and pablo need multiple gastic bypass surgerys?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
imho Bochy is off his rocker
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
IMHO he should have not recieved more than a 1 year deal.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
mediocre teams usually blame their best players when the fall short.
Mark DeRosa just got the damn surgery.
/marlins blame hanley ramirez for nolasco’s poor performance.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
GO DIAF BOCHY
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Hey guys great news
It gets even better tonight…..
The Giants and Red Sox are among the teams eyeing Royals players, according to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star. Royals GM Dayton Moore is willing to listen to offers, but anticipating the return for the likes of David DeJesus and Jose Guillen is difficult, even for those in the team’s front office.
"I can tell you this much," one Royals official told Dutton, "nobody is willing to take on payroll. But teams don’t want to deal prospects, either. So it makes it tough to do anything."
Dutton reports that the Giants have interest in Guillen on the condition that the Royals absorb most of the $6.3MM or so remaining on his contract. Earlier today, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reported that the Royals are looking to move Guillen and are willing to pick up most of his salary in a trade, but Moore insists that the Royals are not actively looking to trade. Two rival scouts told Dutton that the Royals say they will take on a considerable amount of Guillen’s salary, so it doesn’t appear that Guillen would be tough to obtain.
Hopefully we really have interest in DeJesus, but what’s the point if we’re going to be 6 games out at the AS Break at this rate? I’m scared for what the next 6 weeks will bring.
Since both of these trades possibilities are actually being reported, I’m pretty confident that they are not going to happen.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not this trade, but we certainly can’t rule out a really dumb trade to get us into contention when we’re “only” 3 games out on July 20th. Even though with this offense and bullpen we probably have no business going to the postseason anyway.
Oh definitely. But when it happens, I’m willing to bet that the team and players involved are a total surprise.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re probably right. Though Hillenbrand was widely reported as a player of interest for us before that deal went down. IIRC.
So was Freddy Sanchez for that matter.
by RoyaleWithCheese on Jun 29, 2010 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
6 games behind Sandy Eggo is not a problem
6 behind LA or Colorado is
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I'm back
Tonight wasn’t fun at all. Though I did finally meet heimy in person.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
No
I thought heimy was a blond female about 22 years old.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I suppose my description of him as a 22-year-old blonde may have been a bit misleading.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Indeed . . .
. . . if the word was “blonde”. It’s nice to know that some still observe these niceties.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
The blond/blonde distinction is one of those language things that I’m oddly fond of.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
your pic indicates that you may, in fact, be a blond female – perhaps even 22 years old.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Were you in charge of flipping that “BEAT LA” sign? One more sad thing about last night’s game.
/sigh
They could be Giants...but not really.
I was not. I was helping out with the Junior Giants Stretch Drive the whole game. You didn’t like the sign?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
It was a little depressing. IMO Giants fans should do the chant without any prompting. :(
They could be Giants...but not really.
Also, they were flipping it way too fast.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to try to seek you out tonight and tomorrow.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Nice say hi for sure. I’ll either be doing the normal OBA stuff or I’ll be doing the Junior Giants Stretch Drive again which is behind section 112
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Cool
BEAT LA!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Did you kick bowtie in the shins?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
You amuse me to no end, Cookyman.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I admire his range. I think he leads the McCoven in both rational thinking skills and TWSS comments.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Cookyman, are you over 35?
The Giants might try to sign you in the next couple of weeks….
Go injure yourself but don’t tell us about it to seal the deal.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
CRISPIN GLOVER
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
It is your density!
I mean, destiny.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Such a great series of movies
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
They're not lifechanging,
but fun for what they are.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Perhaps better question:
Why wasn’t Schierholtz the pinch runner to begin with? We wondered at the time.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
yeah, exactly. I was watching in a bar with a friend and that was our immediate reaction- why not pinch run with the fastest player we have on the bench?
by Into the Void on Jun 29, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Why use common sense when you can trot money on the field thats worthless?
Mmm ro is the best base runner on the team can’t have nate out there he’s to inexperienced and scrubby.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
yeah, like Bochy isn't scrubby
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
All Star Manager.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think they send anybody on that play. It was a really shallow fly, and there was an out to spare.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably so . . .
. . . but the original questions “Why Rowand not Schierholtz?” still remains.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Better Question
Just how bad do you have to suck as a manager before you finally get canned?
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Prolonged losing streaks, loss of confidence in the manager from the players...
Giants win 3, lose 2, lose 3, win 4… just enough to coast, not enough to boast or burn him like toast.
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Until the giants are 10 games out, their in this thing and borks doing a great job!!!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Saw highlights of AZ-STL
I felt bad for Randy Winn tonight.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Went back from a ball in right field, jumped for it, hit off his glove and went over the wall.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
you sure that wasn't FLewis?
just saying
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Did you see what transpired in the bottom of the 9th? I have not seen a “come from behind walk off win” that lack luster in years.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
just got home from the game.
-stubhub ultimate upgrade seats were cool.
-LOL DOUBLE PLAYS
-TOUTURE!
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Jun 29, 2010 12:13 AM PDT reply actions
I didn’t watch. Anyone wanna explain that .gif to me?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 12:16 AM PDT reply actions
Reaction to Pablo’s baserunning fail.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Which was?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
being a failure... got caught up on a pop out to right field
he tagged and started running to second and he got caught in a rundown… he thought Rowand was going to go home on the play
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
dum
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Alllllright, just got back from lifting and i’m pretty sure i feel 100 times better than i did about an hour ago
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You weren't kidding
i mean, i’m not a strong guy, and being 6’3 235 is big… but i’m slowly getting my strength back, reppped 180, so i’m thinking i could do 185 or 190 with ease
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
maybe the giants should lose more often?
KIDDING
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i’ll ask an open question, because i feel like repping 180 isn’t that much, especially for my size, anybody else lift somewhat?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I used to when I was in school, but not anymore. I think back then I maxed at 225.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Pretty much where i think i'd max out right now, around there at least
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Probably. Getting one rep of 225 was a struggle but 180 was pretty much what I was putting up without much of a struggle.
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yea, last year i was lifting every single day which wasn’t healthy, this year i’m doin it every other day… how tall are ya
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
6 foot
I was lifting three days a week when I played soccer in college. We were doing Olympic lifts and everything like that. Pretty massive training program we were on. Let’s just say I haven’t really kept up with it since then lol.
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Haha, well put it this way, it’s not a good idea to lift everyday, 3 days a week sounds pretty legit, pretty in shape too…. but yea, as long as ya feel healthy there’s no problem
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Oh I know. I remember trying to work out the day after we maxed out one year because it was a regular workout day for us…oof. Bad idea.
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OH MY, that must’ve been the most sore you could ever be. The way i look at it, maxing out almost is pointless since you could just go ahead and be good with reps, much better for you
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Haha. Well, I kinda just got dumped so that’s how I decided to deal with my rage. Kinda like you tonight.
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It’s unreal how much better you can do given that sort of thing, like i do so many things better, like even taking exams, because i just get pissed off
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I did dominate my finals two weeks after that shit went down. So I guess that was a good thing.
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for sure, just got to use it, i mean, obviously nothing bad has happened with my girl and i, it’s just that we’re so far apart and who knows if it’ll work out, but yea, guess you could say a combo of that and the ball game helped tonight
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well, if you’re really just getting started, 180 isn’t a bad place to start at all, even for your size. I assume if you consistently lifted for a while you’d be putting up way more than that. The initial gains when you start tend to be the biggest. I rep about 175 right now but started at 135-145 (I’m 6’ 165)….didn’t take that long to get where I am working out 1-2 times a week. Anytime I can consistently go 2 times a week for a few weeks in a row I see noticeable gains, but when I don’t have the time and just go once a week it seems all I’m doing is treading water…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Got ya, yea i do like 2 or 3 times a week, maybe 4, but i hear ya, i think i can definitely up it a little bit more. THanks
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You aren’t doing the same muscle groups up to 4 times a week are you?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
mixing it up, i’m also doing some conditioning, but at best i usually work out 3 times a week
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
last year i did
and it just wasn’t good at all… the walking around the neighborhood and jogging, the sit ups, all help out
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You're on a good track.
I’m not in amazing shape, but I do exercise/lift regularly, and I’m 6’, repping at 185. Someone of your size should be able to top that fairly soon.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I lift sandwiches to my mouth.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, extreme hotwing challenges have to count for SOMEthing...
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
instead of eating the weights
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Oh wow! That is why Bochy and other people in the organization say the Giants pitching staff is hard to catch. If you look at the numbers, they have a lot of wild pitches! OH WOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Just think, if a stud like Bengie can’t even handle them, how is a guy like Posey, without the experience of being good, going to have a chance?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone in SF feel the earthquake this morning?
I was asleep. It woke me up, thought “earthquake” and fell back to sleep.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
In the east bay i didn’t feel anything, apparently it was felt as far as Benecia
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I was in Vallejo and I didn’t feel anything.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
i’ve experienced rocking and i’ve experienced rolling, but never have i experienced both rocking and rolling
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
I was in Berkeley, and I didn’t feel anything either.
But then, I’m dead inside.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Between Loma Prieta and 2006, I actually never felt a single earthquake. Since then, I’ve felt more than a few.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing quieter than an exploding microwave wakes me up.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
There is a MythBusters episode about it
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 29, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
NO WAY
must see it… still think it’s awesome they used my high school for an episode
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
GRAMMAR FAIL!!!!
Campolindo=better than your school
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
probably
but was trying to make a joke about mythbusters concluding that your school was a myth. i see that i joke failed too.
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Good News: Im goin to the game tomorrow. I'm 12-2 this year
2 losses: Phillies and Orioles
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Jun 29, 2010 12:48 AM PDT reply actions
Am travelling . . .
is that footage of Renteria and Huff really from the “Pablo Incident”? Or recycled?
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Jun 29, 2010 12:57 AM PDT reply actions
It’s from post-Pablo fail.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 29, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I am confident that graphic will stand the test of time . . . . don’t frequently see pros so unable to disguise their disgust.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Jun 29, 2010 1:03 AM PDT reply actions
Edgar looks just like...
Dwigt Schrute. Especially with those shifty eyes.
showing the teeth is a sign of weakness in primates.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
fffffffffffuuuuu
It’s hard to believe a (presumably) healthy Buster Posey didn’t start today. It’s even harder to believe that when Bochy was asked about it, his response was, "Well, you can’t get ‘em all in there."
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
LOL Wilriv21
Criticizing Posey and sticking up for his fat fuck hero. Boricua!!!!
Buster Posey: "I'm a catcher." Brian Sabean: "I'm an idiot."
by rxmeister on Jun 29, 2010 5:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That guy loves him some bad baseball players.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s something with players who, coincidentally, have careers much like Bochy’s MLB career…..hmmmm, wonder why that could be….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully the giants end the season under .500
Another season of bochy and I’ll be forced to never watch another giants game.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yes, that’s what we’re all hoping for.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Whatever it takes to get rid of bengie before 2013.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm too depressed to read any of this
But I just got back to Fresno from BOTH games, and must say the Giants have left me heartbroken. And that’s hard to do since I’m used to the usual shenanigans. But I took my Dad up for Fathers Day/Birthday gift and then the Giants took a shit on us. It wouldn’t have been a father/son Giants experience if there wasn’t suffering I guess, but this was hard to bear.
I’m assuming, given everything I saw, that everyone is experiencing frustration and anger. Me though, I was close to tears as I left the stadium. That sucked. Worst of all, the Dodger I hate the most got the game winner. And not trying to take credit (why would I) but I saw that homer coming. I just about experienced it in my head before it even happened. Almost like being in a horrible Final Destination. I guess its time to stop talking and pass out now…
I have moments like that too, good and bad
Its surreal, like watching something you know is going to happen. Its usually double plays for me
Bork
Used to be Barry Bonds for me. And it was truly weird. We would be in a store or doing something without a tv or radio on…and I’d just get this feeling… “Quick!!! We’ve got to get to a radio /tv!!!” We’d get out to the car or into the house just in time to see [or hear] him launch one. It was very very weird, and I miss it!
If Bork had used my Anti-RHP lineup, they would have scored at least 4 runs
as it was originally hypothesized:
CF Torres
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
LF Burrell
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
RF Bowker
C Posey
P [whoever]
Using last evening’s personnel: subtract Bowker and Posey, then add Molina (7) and Renteria (8).
Renteria to SS, Uribe to 1B, and Huff to LF.
Sanchez, Huff, Burrell and Sandoval had the only hits (or hard hit balls for that matter) by the starting lineup. Bochy seems stupidly resistant to grouping his best hitters together as if he were afraid they might all be killed by the same cannonball.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Is there a replay of Sandoval’s baserunning anywhere on MLB.com? I went to bed in the 3rd and I missed it.
Ask me about my blog.
Where did you find it?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9469099&topic_id=8877590&c_id=la
About halfway into the video they show it.
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He knows that with all the press he won’t have to fight Pablo at the buffet tonight.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw that when it happened and wondered the same thing myself .
Had forgotten about it until now. Thanks, jerk.
:D
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I read your second sentence as "I wet the bed in the third."
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
The day after
You know it’s bad when Baggs is bringing out the hate
It was apropos for the Giants, whose old, slow, lifeless and unreliable offense failed them yet again in a 4-2 loss to the Los Angeles Dodgers.
It is too early to call the Giants a lost cause in 2010. They wouldn’t be the first flawed team to overcome roster shortcomings and long odds.
But the detritus is starting to pile up. All the ground-ball double plays, the undisciplined first-pitch swings, heavy legs and baserunning mistakes have served to kill rallies and undermine pitching efforts.
Giants manager Bruce Bochy sat hope-filled rookie Buster Posey and started his cadre of plodding 30-year-olds. They responded with five double plays. Three came on the ground, giving the club an NL-high 81 this season. Two of those ground-ball twin killings came on the first pitch; the free-swinging Giants have 19 of those this year, too
Baggs has to watch this shit every night just like we do!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Cheer up jponry
We can get Boof back now!
Boof Bonser has elected free agency after clearing waivers, according to the Red Sox, who designated the righty for assignment earlier in the month. Bonser’s groin injury has limited him to two appearances since the Red Sox acquired him from the Twins over the winter. In two innings, Bonser allowed six hits and walked a pair without recording a strikeout.
I actually wanted to get Boof as the 5th starter before this season, once it was clear that we’re not going to spend any money on a pitcher.
He’s got a 4.61 career FIP, and that’s with an extremely high HR/FB rate, which I think AT&T would help bring down. His ERA is 5.19, but it’s mainly because of a .328 BABIP, which is probably a result of bad luck and/or bad defense and/or artificial turf, and a very low LOB%, which is just bad luck (.298 BABIP with bases empty, .348 with runners on).
Add a move to a league without a DH, and I think he’d be able to manage a ~4.30 ERA with us, which would be neat to have for no money. But that ship has sailed.
I was promised lasagna.
VELOCITY GATE is starting to bug me.
Even if this pattern holds true, even if Lincecum cannot maintain his velocity into the late innings, he still can be a solidly above average starting pitcher. Or he could have a second career as a potentially dominant short reliever.
Ask me about my blog.
Scot Shields at best.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I enjoy that the Giants are shocked that Lincecum might be losing velocity after the tremendous mileage that they’ve put him through. I think the team has bordered on reckless at times with him (that stupid rainout in LA, the high pitch counts, etc.)
SHOCKED I SAY!!
/monocle
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I thought I read recently that pitchers actually do tend to maintain their velocity into the late innings – being tired really affects control, not velocity?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I would think that it’s normal to lose velocity as the game goes on.
Ask me about my blog.
It definitely makes sense logically, and it’s something that it’s repeated all the time….but I’m still pretty sure someone actually looked at it recently and saw that it doesn’t tend to be true….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
he's not losing much velocity...
this entire velocity argument over lincecum is pointless. HE’S THROWING HIS FASTBALL AT 91-94 MPH. When you saw that 87 mph fastball, he was dialing the speed down himself…(as he stated in that interview on CSN)
Well, he’s lost velocity from past years, but yeah, I’m not sure if he’s really losing velocity as the game goes on….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Stop with the Lincecum Panic
He had a bad May (by his standards). His June (until Sunday) was great. Most importantly, in 36 IP in May, he had a SO/BB of 1.74. In 32 IP in June, he is at 2.83. I am willing to ignore Sunday.
If there is somthing to panic about, it is Panda.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Pablo's splits by month
April: 368/.433/.575 in 97 PA
May: .234/.275/.342 in 120 PA
June: .233/.309/.349 in 97 PA
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
I suspect it varies . . .
. . . at the pitcher’s option: try to keep control at the expense of speed, or vice-versa. But yes, medically speaking the first sign of fatigue is loss of the ability to perform precision tasks.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
And I’m sure there are pitchers that do lose velocity, even if the population as a whole doesn’t really lose velocity….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Movement too, according to an older THT article
I forgot who wrote it, but I’m guessing it was Josh Kalk or John Walsh. Maybe Mike Fast.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
So I sit here reading rumors that the White Sox and others are interested in Adam Dunn...
And I can only wonder why the fuck the Giants aren’t.
Pssssst, Sabean. Trades means that the players can’t refuse to come here because of AT&T park. You should probably try to get good hitters this way.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
He's gotten a bad rep from his days in the outfield
He can be perfectly well hidden at 1B, as he’s showing this year on the Nats.
He was previously blocked out of 1B by Nick Johnson.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
He has a career -19 UZR/150 at 1B in over 2000 innings. That’s pretty bad….
Even if we regress heavily, he’s still bad. TotalZone agrees with this assessment, by the way. Also, we do not need Huff/Burrell at the corner OF spots with Dunn at 1B. That’s awful. I really have no interest in Dunn because I want Huff at 1B…
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Dunn gives way more back on offense
I would absolutely love to have him at 1B
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Who cares if he's a veteran?
Dunn is GOOD, and would be the best hitter on this team.
Of course, this would require Buster to play at catcher.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Busters not our best option at catcher
Need the veteran bat and gold glove defense of bengie, plus as kruk says no one in baseball puts the fingers down like bengie does.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
he can put down the lady fingers
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
He sits down and puts up 2 fingers, meaning double the meat and cheese on the KFC double down.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
/blog post with extra sauce
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I kinda want one of those shirts.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Put bengie on one of those shorts and have it be orange and black.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
And Buster won’t play at catcher. Bengie’s the catcher till he gets injured or traded. Now if they want to trade Bengie for Dunn…. maybe… but I’m sick to death of all this trading/signing aging vets instead of sticking with younger players.
by Merope on Jun 29, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunn gives way more back on offense
More than what, exactly? Seriously, compare what you think the best current lineup we can put out there is, and the best lineup with Adam Dunn included, and how do you think they stack up offensively and defensively against each other? He wouldn’t be replacing a replacement level player….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I would think that he would replace Molina
Who is a sub-replacement level player.
Best current lineup:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Uribe SS
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Burrell LF
Schierholtz RF
Lineup with Dunn (Offensive Version):
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff RF
Dunn 1B
Uribe SS
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Burrell LF
Lineup with Dunn (defensive version)
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff LF
Dunn 1B
Uribe SS
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Schierholtz RF
Long story short, Adam Dunn would either squeeze out Pat Burrell or Nate Schierholtz from our ‘ideal lineup’ (probably Schierholtz) Even with defense taken in to account, Dunn is better than either.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I would think that he would replace Molina
As long as Bochy is managing, no one will replace Molina in the lineup.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that's where it falls apart
I’m not in favor of trading for Dunn if Molina stays in the lineup, period.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Ok, let’s assume Dunn squeezes Schierholtz out of the lineup. So your 1B defense goes from -5 to -10 to -15. Net loss: 5 to 10 runs. Huff in the OF instead of Schierholtz removes a +10 defender in place of a -10 corner OF defender. Net loss: 20 runs. So we’re getting 25-30 runs worse defensively with that lineup. Dunn is what, maybe 30 runs better than Schierholtz offensively? Plus we’re also dealing with a partial season here, so whatever the final difference is, it will be substantially lessened by not having it over a full year. So you’re proposing we take on salary, trade away some sort of talent (I’m assuming it will take at least a little talent to get Dunn?), all for a…..minimal at best upgrade it looks like to me, which again, means we still won’t be able to evaluate Schierholtz (or even possibly Bowker at some point this season)….
Two notes: I believe Dunn is a poor fit at AT&T. Check out HitTrackerOnline.com for his HR chart to see why. Second note – with our pitching staff, the defensive difference might be slightly lessened. My guess is these two things mostly cancel each other out.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
In 09, Dunn was worth more than 40 runs batting over nate
“Fit at AT&T” is mostly bullshit. Dunn is a good hitter anywhere. Your second point is more valid.
I love Nate Schierholtz, don’t get me wrong. But Dunn is a damn good hitter, and we haven’t had a legitimate power threat in our lineup in so long I’ve forgotten what it feels like. That can have positive (and somewhat unmeasurable) effects on the rest of the lineup, depending if you buy in to the “pitch around” theory.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
SMALLER PARK!!!!! let’s be honest dude, the giants’ chances of picking up someone=next to nothing, Sabean wont give up on prospects and the lineup will be the same as it’s always been, fuck it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Sabean wont give up on prospects
Are we talking about the same Brian Sabean right now?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
There's not going to be anything happening this summer
doubt it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
adding Dunn cinches the GDP record
so I’m all for it.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
"Fit at AT&T" is mostly bullshit.
Absolutely not. Certain parks play certain ways, and certain hitters have hitting tendencies. Sometimes it’s a great match, sometimes it’s a poor match. Fred Lewis was a good fit in AT&T, because while he didn’t have HR power, he had gap power, which is perfect for AT&T because it let him hit it into the gap and use his speed to pick up extra bases. Dustin Pedroia is a good fit in Boston – if you look at his HR charts from his “MVP” season, you’ll see he had a lot of ones that barely cleared the fence and wouldn’t have elsewhere. This isn’t a myth. For most players, it’s negligible and not worth worrying about. For a guy who’s a true 3 outcomes hitter, and a LHH pull hitter for his HR’s (which make up a big part of his value as a player) playing in a park that very, very strongly suppresses HR’s to RF…..yeah, I think that’s a pretty strong case he’s not a good fit. It’s not to say he won’t still be a good hitter, just that he’ll be less good.
But Dunn is a damn good hitter, and we haven’t had a legitimate power threat in our lineup in so long I’ve forgotten what it feels like.
I understand the sentiment, trust me. However, looking at it objectively from a “how does it actually help us win more” point of view, I’m just not seeing how it’s a substantial upgrade, and it also would be just another move consistent with the exact strategy that has us where we are – one that favors expensive veterans who aren’t part of the long term plans over cheap youngsters that may be capable of performing and giving us great value. I don’t see the value, either long term or short term, of Adam Dunn given the personnel we have right now, especially considering what it will cost.
That can have positive (and somewhat unmeasurable) effects on the rest of the lineup, depending if you buy in to the "pitch around" theory.
As for this, on the one hand, I can show you why fit can matter, but I think you’ll be very hard pressed to find any evidence supporting this. Effects are not unmeasureable. If they’re having an effect, it’s changing players performance, and we measure players performance.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Only on the very last point
The problem with it is that it changes OTHER players performances, and it’s nearly impossible to distinguish is someone is hitting better because they have a slugger behind them or if they’re hitting better because they’re hitting better.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
it’s nearly impossible to distinguish is someone is hitting better because they have a slugger behind them or if they’re hitting better because they’re hitting better.
Still nope. You look at how guys with sluggers behind them compare to guys without sluggers behind them, controlling for the individuals talent level….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah. As for this:
In 09, Dunn was worth more than 40 runs batting over nate
It’s not ‘09. It’s 2010. If you think my numbers are wrong, make the case why. They very well might be. But given full PT for the rest of the season, how much better should we expect Dunn to be than Nate? That’s the question I’m trying to answer. I’ll also note that my runs estimates were extrapolated out over a year of full PT just for an equal comparison. I see Dunn as a ~+30 hitter over a full season this year going forward, and Nate as a ~0 hitter over a full season this year going forward, in full PT for both.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
How can I dispute numbers you pull out of thin air?
I think Dunn will be worth +40 runs. If you think my numbers are wrong, make the case why!
Dunn has a better track record. Schierholtz’s MLEs, while better than what he’s put up in the majors, aren’t exactly awe-inspiring. Dunn has hit 38+ home runs for like 5 seasons in a row now (I pulled that from memory, not sure), and, while I’ve always thought that UZR overvalues 1B defense anyway, I still think it’s worth getting a hitter like Dunn in the lineup even if he is a defensive liability.
Plus, with more playing time, Dunn might just get BETTER at 1B, considering he’s fairly new to the position.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I don’t think I was pulling numbers out of thin air at all. Pretty quick and simple estimates, look at Dunn’s performance over the last few years – 141, 132, 143, 145 wRC+’s, the last being this current year. So he’ll probably be around 140 wRC+ or so the rest of the season? Which translates to about +30 (maybe a little less)? I mean, I’m not making things up, just looking at his past few years combined with what he’s done so far this year. On the other hand, he’s posted one +40 year in his entire career, in 2004…..
Dunn has a better track record. Schierholtz’s MLEs, while better than what he’s put up in the majors, aren’t exactly awe-inspiring.
Agree, 30 runs, as I quickly estimated, is a huge difference. It’s the difference between league average and a Top 25 hitter.
while I’ve always thought that UZR overvalues 1B defense anyway
Why would it overvalue 1B defense? All it’s doing is comparing how many plays guys make compared to each other?
Plus, with more playing time, Dunn might just get BETTER at 1B, considering he’s fairly new to the position.
It is a possibility. He’s also on the decline part of the aging curve, though. Peak defensive age is something like 25.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
John Bowker
2010 Fresno .330/.385/.691 with 9 HR’s.
Gee, I wonder what he could do in the majors given more than 1 weeks worth of at-bats in a row.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
CAN’T BE A GOOD HITTER IF YOU’VE NEVER BEEN A GOOD HITTER BEFORE!
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
But he still had his chance
I mean name me one person who had a bad week in the big league’s and came back to be a good player….besides Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams and all the other ones.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
But how many good players got off to a bad start in the majors in general and went on to be good?! Aside from the entire top of this year’s WAR leaderboard as my current rec’ed fanshot highlights, that is…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants might need someone in general to help this offense out, just saying, but who knows.
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
meh, they have a decent offense
/be wary of falling in
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I turned it off after the Molina passed ball
Can’t make myself care as long as he starts over Posey.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 7:36 AM PDT reply actions
STFU that was a wild pitch he would have had to block it!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
he put his fingers down....
what more could you ask!!!!
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UGH
was doing some amateur carpentry (building an entertainment shelf system sans cinder blocks) with the game on the radio. a severed thumb would have been less painful than last night’s offense.
sheesh
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I have a feeling we are.
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But zero would be an improvement for my expectations which tend to be reflected in negative numbers or GIDP.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I turned it off the minute the home run was hit. And went to bed. I knew it would end there.
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Go Roger Kieschnick! And son, please continue to break scoreboards on your way to San Francisco.
Looking over the box score, I see Posey pinch hit for Sandoval. What was that about?
Also, while I love the Bautista/Casilla duo … in the late innings of a tie game? against a divisional rival? really?
Also — fuckin’ Travis Ishikawa. How does he work?
Also — fuckin’ Travis Ishikawa. How does he work?
I lol’ed.
As for Bautista/Casilla….I’m ok going with owlcroft on Bautista, a disaster waiting to happen. We probably should be looking for a replacement. Dude has walked more than 5 batters per 9 IP for his entire career, and is decently above that this year. That’s not a recipe for success. I do like Casilla, though – he strikes more guys out than Baustista, and walks less. He has good stuff. Not saying he should be our #2 bullpen guy, but I don’t really mind him as a #3-4 guy in the pen. Still not seeing why owlcroft lumps him in with Bautista. He’s better than Bautista.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Casilla’s shown significantly better control over his career than Baustista. Casilla’s control is not good, but it’s good enough to make him a real MLB caliber pitcher in my view. Bautistia’s control is bad to the point where he isn’t an MLB caliber pitcher.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Casilla:
NL 2010-to-date averages: OBP = .315 and TBA (TB/PA) = .359
Santiago Casilla, career: OBP = .334 and TBP = .373
In there is a career BB/PA rate of .100 vs league average of .083.
In short, worse than league average in both on-base and power. In fact, worse than league average in everything but SO/PA, and there not runaway: .202 vs. league .186.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Well, diving into it deeper, how much do you think defense has had an affect on that, as well as random variation? Also, when you say league average, what do you mean by that, exactly? Average of all pitchers? Average of just relief pitchers? Personally, the two big factors I care about are strikeouts and walks, so that’s what my opinion is based on….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Which "that"?
If Casilla, well, those are the average of quite a few seasons, so I suspect not much effect. By “league average” I mean NL pitching so far this year. I know that’s not the best yardstick, but it’s the one that was most convenient to hand. I suspect there wouldn’t be much difference even if we used the league average over the past several seasons, but that’s only a suspicion and I’m lazy.
Casilla’s career K/W rate is a hair over 2 (2.026, remembering that that’s “career including YTD”).
But I see now that I was being somewhat unfair there, in that Casilla pitched in the AL, so let’s look at those instead.
Pitcher BA BABIP SA HA PF BBA KA OBA TBA K/W TPP ERA AL .258 .294 .406 .231 1.576 .082 .179 .313 .364 2.194 720 4.21 Casilla: .268 .316 .427 .234 1.590 .100 .202 .334 .373 2.026 816 4.87 diff. +.010 +.022 +.021 +.003 +0.014 +.018 +.023 +.021 +.009 -0.168 + 96 +0.66
Again, worse in everything but K/PA, and at the bottom-line level, cumulatively nontrivial in worseness.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
How do relievers as a group compare to the average, though? Two things I know – starters are better pitchers than relievers, but relievers get a bonus for being used as relievers (from only having to pitch one inning, from being able to play R/L matchups more effectively, from only having to go through the lineup once, etc)….so it’s unclear to me whether we should expect relievers to be worse than those averages.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
To answer that properly . . .
. . . would, to be brutally honest, take a lot more work than I’m up for right now. The ERA is, of course, a notoriously poor measure of pitching, but the TPP pretty well evens out those irregularities arising from fractional innings being nontrivial for a reliever (though it makes no attempt to deal with BABIP, a project I have had on the back burner so long it’s stuck to the stove).
My guess—sheer guess—is that there wouldn’t be a lot of difference. It is a pet idea of mine that the starter/reliever thing isn’t so much how good your pitches are as how many of them you have. I once discussed that idea with Jim Palmer, and his answer was that Doc Gooden was a two-pitch pitcher, but I think that was disingenuous, in that “a fastball” is not necessarily one pitch in this sense (but one doesn’t, especially when younger, argue with Jim Palmer.) My theory is that as a very, very rough rule of thumb, a guy can go through the lineup successfully one fewer times than he has effective pitches. But I don’t insist on it—it’s just a casual theory.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
relatively useless for purposes of in-season projection
see 2009 Jeremy Affeldt
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Not so.
“In-season projection” is never assumed to be reliable: we don’t expect exactly 5 heads every time we toss a coin 10 times, but we still say that a coin’s intrinsic EHA (Earned Heads Average) is .500. If we need to try to project the results of some 10 tosses about to be made, we say “5”, and if it’s 7 or 3 we aren’t much discomfited.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Your point being?
No sarcasm: I really don’t understand what you’re asserting. That projections, within a sample of less than a season, may not be accurate? OK, fine, and dropped rocks tend to fall down, not up. Projections are useful not owing to the likelihood of individual ones being quite exact (though they often are), but owing to the reality that in an assembly as large as a ball club roster the ups and downs tend to average out, so that the team projection is likely to be pretty good, and certainly pretty useful.
Is there some part of that with which you strenuously disagree?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
He doesn’t have a point. He wants to draw you in.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Arghh.
You are very probably right, and I’m a born sucker for that sort of thing.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
hokysmksbw is kind of an enigma. Sometimes he comes on and really seems to add something to the threads. Other times, he just seems to want to rile people up.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I still suspect he knows more than he lets on…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 30, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Not useless at all. The best you can do is play the averages right.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
funny thing is, Sandoval might have made it to second
he stopped and turned back well before the throw got there. If you look at the tape, it’s conceivable he might have made it. Funny things happen on close plays. Stopping as he did gave him no chance. And there’s no realistic chance of Rowand scoring while they run down Sandoval. Neither one is fast enough.
I’ll not speculate on how being 40 lbs lighter might have affected his chances.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
It would help if pablo wasn’t 5’11 300 pounds and this orginization constantly lied about his weight. Sure is hilarious that this joke of a franchise couldn’t even establish off season conditioning for their only good hitter.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Sure is hilarious that this joke of a franchise couldn’t even establish off season conditioning for their only good hitter.
Now, we know Giants management is not particularly good at their jobs, but it seems to me like they did do everything they could to establish an offseason conditioning program for Panda. Not sure what else they could have done…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants did what they could.
He just ballooned when he went home to play winter ball.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I think gastric bypass surgery would be a little extreme.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
But a ribectomy might do the trick.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
A IQ higher than room temperature might help with such base running and conditioning gaffs in the future.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Your Panda hate is tiresome.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
His EVERYTHING hate is tiresome
I think he’s responded to 90% of the subthreads here shitting on something in every post.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Well, yeah, but considering my own medical odyssey, I can’t help but wonder if they’ve actually consulted an endocrinologist.
Granted, maybe Pablo does use Krispy Kreme doughnuts as hamburger buns, I don’t know what his REAL eating habits are. I find it difficult to believe that he isn’t even trying.
You are correct.
When the season started he was around 280-285, now he’s well into the 300’s. Sure must be nice having bengie molina as a teamate, even when you’re fucking massive you feel in shape compared to that fat fuck.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
It blows my mind that a “professional athlete” can actually gain weight during a season……
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
All while having the pathetic orginzation that pays him say he’s in great shape and “hasn’t gained weight since last season”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like they need an Operation Panda 2, but with less fail this time.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m glad you have a scale in the clubhouse and weigh him accurately on a regular basis.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Weighs him 1/8 oz. at a time.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
That would take an extremely long with with beng and pab.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you got your pab smeared.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
One of those cattle scales?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Nope, it's almost imposssible to gain fat over the course of the season
you people are just being assholes
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Somebody call Guinness
Looks like he’s done the impossible, but who gets the record, Pablo or Bengie?
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Is imposssible more difficult than impossible?
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
THAT'S BLUBBER, NERDZ!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
From what I hear, there is a lot of fast food on the road during the season, so I don’t see what would make it so difficult.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I have always thought about that – I know when I travel, I eat pretty poorly. If you don’t have a kitchen, it’s much tougher to eat well (especially when you have the whole nighttime athletic event thing getting int he way)….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah, but it’s not like they’re living in the airport. Also, they’re millionaires. Go to a nice restaurant, for god’s sake.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Fair enough.
But a nice cucumber salad travels well.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
But it’s better than a burger and fries, or a bag of Doritos.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Or whatever sludge the airline serves.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
charter
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
WHATEVER
I’m still guessing that the food sucks.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Likely as bad,
given the oils and creams, etc. that they use. also, the portions are sometimes even bigger.
These guys sleep schedules are wacky, they drink a lot of alcohol and, in Pablo’s case, they’re young and don’t really feel the effects of everything they ear( it’s only noticeable to the naked eye). I think it’d be very easy to gain weight playing baseball. Obviously, Pablo does not train hard enough and it’s possible he just doesn’t care to. And, hey, with Bengie Molina as the exalted member of the Giants team (by manager and ownership), what’s good for Bengie is good for the rest of the guys.
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’m really not sure it is. Restaurant food is generally pretty crappy for you and loaded on calories….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
apparently the spreads after the game a pretty good too. It’s not unusual for young players just up from the minors to put on some weight.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
and I’ve told that story about Livan getting Krispy Kremes banned from the clubhouse a few times already. What kind of sports franchise feeds its players Krispy Kremes?
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Probably all of them.
In a beer and road beef culture, if you can fry it or fuck it, it’s good for you.
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Mmmm… lamb.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
road beef
GIANTS LINKED TO ROADKILL!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there no double play the Giants will stay out of?
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember an article last season about the team chef, and how he was getting them to eat pretty well by not telling them stuff was healthy, but that he would make certain crappy things (french toast with white bread).
Ooh, I found it. It was from NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113313511
Also, LOL Timmy and his lack of conditioning:
“It’s a little healthy for my taste,” says Tim Lincecum, one of the Giants’ star pitchers. “I like to eat more McDonald’s style, you know, In-N-Out Burger, Subway, Quiznos kind of stuff.”
Also, I actually know someone who saw Timmy at the McDonalds on 3rd and King one random Sunday morning.
skinniest guy on the team has the Babe Ruth diet
Which helps to prove my point it’s almost impossible to get fatter during the season, this is especially true of the guys in the everyday lineup.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Wait, what? Because some kid has a high metabolism and stays skinny eating McD’s, no player can put on weight during the season? That’s lousy logic.
Pablo does appear to have increased in size since the start of the season. It can happen. Not impossible.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
it's all in your prejudiced mind
ALL pro athletes have high metabolisms, even Sumo Wrestlers.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
This isn't even in the same universe as true
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Try living in the Trueniverse.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You stuck your foot in it
And now you will respond with nonsense. It’s cool, hokysmokes. It happens.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no doubt his food intake
outstrips any similar-sized truck driver.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
That does not help to prove your point in any way.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Counterpoint.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
just cuz you just ate 20 hot dogs
does not mean you’re an athlete
(might just mean you’re a fat bastard looking for a free meal)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
So then you have no point to speak of. Which was apparent from the start, but whatever.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Pro-athletes can eat crappy food and not get fat
that was my point. Provided, of course, they don’t slack off their athletic training regimen.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I think your holding the title of athlete to a much higher standard than is realistic. These are people, not bio-freaks. They gain weight, too. Even some of the ones who work out really hard.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re, excuse me.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyway, it doesn’t really matter what I say. You’ll just get more insistent and fall back on greater nonsense. I really shouldn’t entertain the exercise.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
What exactly is a bio-freak?
Since it’s not really a WORD and all.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Biological freak. That was surprisingly simple.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s really not that hard to understand.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
11 fingers = biological freak
I don’t know what you think you mean by it.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Ok.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do you seem to think all athletes are incredibly physically talented? Take someone like Casey Hampton. There is no way that guy has a fast metabolism. You simply could not be that big if he did. He does have a special combination of size, power, and athleticism though, and it makes him a heckuva nose tackle (or at least did, he’s getting older). None of those things are related to having a fast metabolism, and in fact, it’s quite the opposite – that he’s as large a human being as he is probably suggests he has something closer to a slow metabolism. And his size is ultimately what makes him good at his job, but again…..simply having a special combination of size and athleticism/strength that almost nobody else on the planet has does not mean you have a fast metabolism.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What does he eat?
Or, rather, how many calories?
Compare it to a non-athlete of similar height and weight. I would bet Hampton eats MORE.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Of course he does. Because he also burns more calories by playing baseball. That doesn’t mean that he has fast metabolism.
I was promised lasagna.
Seems OK to me
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Compare it to a non-athlete of similar height and weight. I would bet Hampton eats MORE.
I would hope and think he does. However, normal people of similar height and weight to him are on the extreme end of slow metabolism. Being faster than them hardly means he has a fast metabolism.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
just cuz you just ate 20 hot dogs
And this does what to your example of Kobayashi?
lol
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobayashi eats 2x that in bad showing.
And yet he remains UNFAT due to constant athletic training. Same goes for Joey Chestnut.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Nah
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
from wikipedia
Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest
Kobayashi’s win record on Nathans Wall of Fame, 2007Kobayashi was the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest winner for an unprecedented six years in a row. He was the world champion in that competition until 2007, when he finished in second place behind winner Joey Chestnut.
2009: Second place (64.5 hot dogs)
2008: Second place (59 hot dogs) (lost tie-breaker)
2007: Second place (63 hot dogs – new record)
2006: First place (53.75 hot dogs – new record)
2005: First place (49 hot dogs)
2004: First place (53.5 hot dogs – new record)
2003: First place (44.5 hot dogs)
2002: First place (50.5 hot dogs)
2001: First place (50 hot dogs)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
LOL U
Benedict and Carpenter,6 in reporting a number of experiments
on the metabolism of normal individuals, included incidentallJr
certain comparisons of four athletes with a number of nonathletes
having approximately the same body weight and height.
No special effort was made to study the metabolism of athletes in
particular, save in the observations with a professional bicycle
rider. The other three subjects were college athletes, one of
whom was a trained bicycle rider, another a football player, and
the third especially proficient in gymnasium work. All four
athletes showed a distinctly lower metabolism, both per kgm. of
body weigh6 and per square meter of body surface, than did the
normal individuals with whom they were compared.
Hokysmokes knows more than the Journal of Biological Chemistry!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasting food is not a sport.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
This unfortunately
I guess they can’t follow him every day of the off season, I guess being the man on your team and earning the big bucks isn’t in pablo’s plans. If pablo had a work ethic he’d be a top 10 player, but until he is more interested in watching tape than grousing the buffet with bengie he’s on his way to an extremely pre-mature mo vaughn fate.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
the conditioning program ended in January
he re-inflated in February thanks to his Mom (she didn’t like him thin, I guess)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I wonder...
if the Biggest Loser has any openings left?
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
My Bad, ended in early December
the stupid trainers wanted the holidays off, it seems
http://sfgiants.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/operation_panda.html
next offseason they should start Operation Panda 2 in February so it carries right into Spring Training
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Talking points:
The team did establish an off-season program for him, including, supposedly, education about nutrition. But while you can lead a horse, &c &c.
The clubhouse spread is supposedly now much more healthy than that of most clubs (which doesn’t take much doing).
Would it kill Pablo to catch a couple of days a week? No, but it would kill Bengie, so it’s not going to happen (Posey 4 days out of 6, Panda 2—works beautifully as part of a larger rotation scheme, trust me). But that would sure help keep some weight off.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
That the team doesn’t provide only healthy food in the clubhouse blows my mind. They’re investing what, $95M a year or something on these players salaries (and that’s just the salaries, doesn’t even include all the other expenses associated with them), and they don’t even make their best effort to keep them eating healthy? That’s absurd to me.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Bulk rates and heavily discounted products from sponsorships don’t come from healthy foods. Prepackaged, processed, etc. It’s not like Sam’s Fruit Stand is the Official Fresh Food sponsor of the Giants.
Yeah, but how much is that cost compared to the investment they’re making in the ballplayers is my point? The ballplayers are the big investment, and to get the most out of that investment, a good diet is important. That they aren’t investing in improving the diet is plain stupid. That teams let their minor leaguers eat like crap (which they do) is also stupid. Eventually I believe these will be fixed, but man it’s amazing how dumb/slow baseball people are sometimes….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
the minor league teams have to rustle up their own food budget
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Doesn’t have to be that way. Plus, I thought the per diem came from MLB? The per diem they get is crap, and obviously it’s going to lead to them eating shit like McDonald’s – they can’t afford anything else. If you’re trying to get the most out of your minor league system, in what world does it make sense to have them all eating like crap?
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I think our pitching staff needs a team psychiatrist. They not losing it physically, they’re just depressed. “It doesn’t matter what WE do… Our slow, fat, incompetent, hacking at slop offense will only let us down anyway, so fuck it.”
There’s only so long you can put up with a depressingly futile work environment. Matt Cain’s probably just laughed at them and said “Welcome to my world.”
Change the manager, change the catcher and things might turn around.
/cain feels extremely depressed knowing if he gives up a run he’s going to lose.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
It’s not the giving up a run so much as knowing that he’ll need to go yard in at least one at-bat.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Time to break out the sweaters
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL @ accompanying photo:
“This Popular Image is Available At: bit.ly/9NtF2a”
(I’m assuming it’s the team’s reaction to Pablo’s baserunning fuck-up?)
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Really—can it be viewed elsewhere?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Here’s a direct link:
http://img820.imageshack.us/i/failgiants.gif/
I’m assuming with the bandwidth problem, it won’t embed. I’ll try:
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
PKs!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Boy, that was a fun game to go.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 29, 2010 9:45 AM PDT reply actions
For those who can't see the picture from Grant's post...
I re-uploaded it to Tinypic… maybe they’ll host it for a bit longer.
That play pretty much deflated the entire stadium at the same time. The place was rocking. Half of my section left after that play and it was still tied.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Who is that in the dug out? I see huff, who are the two next to him?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrell and Whiteside
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
/burrell wonders how pablo can be so loved
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I really wish the giants had promoted rowand and derosa as the teams stars instead of pablo. Maybe he’d be the same as last year, if anything he’d at least be better off than he is now and we could laugh at the promotions with flappy.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
notice the rarely seen headpalm
two, in fact. The headpalm was first described at Pearl Harbor in 1941, then revived when Britney Spears little sister got pregnant. While the facepalm is thought to be a primitive attempt to shield the eyes from some unpleasant sight, the head palm is widely believed to be a response to a perceived explosion of the brain.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Often caused by giants baseball, nightly.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually just realized I went to bed on the play right before that.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
That play alone cost us .225 in WPA….
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Everytime I read this
There were a few interesting developments on him today, too. Bruce Bochy basically said that Lincecum needs to pay more attention to his conditioning.
Mmm bengie and pablo are in great shape, they need to be to be our power guys and drive the ball like they do.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
/pablo eats double double animal style, replaces buns with crispy cremes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
video of Pablo in 2008
supposedly 5-11, 230. Now I happen to know a football player who is 6 feet, 230, by actual measurement, and I can assure you that Pablo looks a good ten pounds heavier than he does.
Today’s Pablo is at least 30 pounds heavier than the 2008 version. maybe 40. So I’d guess he’s around 275.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
I’m 6’4 270 and I look anorexic compared to pablo.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m 6’ and just got under 200 lbs for the first time in like 5 years. Hooray for me!
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Bengie and pablo are unimpressed.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear they’re trying to team up and get their own zip code.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I got back under 180 last week!
My eventual goal is 165. It should be pretty easy once I start making my own food.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I am back up to 172 pounds
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Pablo and bengie don’t discuss their weight, probably because both of them combined nearly triples my weight.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
triples? You’re being generous, quadruples maybe, but most of the cars in Europe don’t weigh as much as Bengie.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I was a faster runner than bengie when I had right knee surgery amd a broken ankle, nowadays I’m like a kenyan olympic runner in his eyes.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which, you should have seen how slow Troy Glaus was on a double play last night. Shit you not – slower than Bengie. Also, the annoucers of another game last night were talking about Fangraphs and UZR. I love having the MLB package. :)
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched that game last night, glaus did a great bengie impression but he was loafing. Glaus was jogging and was still faster than bengie running his hardest..
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha, yeah, Glaus definitely wasn’t running full speed, but he really was going significantly slower than Bengie. He got thrown out by like 15 feet!
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I bet bengie got a nice confidence boost knowing he’s not slower than a jogging troy glaus at full speed, EX ANGELS TEAMATES YO!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
If bengie was in that car it’d be pushed out a few feet wider and dragging along the ground.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Ate him viciously, you mean.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup...
That’s Bengie’s car because from this angle it’s obvious that it wouldn’t block anything in the dirt.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I was down below 160 for a while
Which made me look like a concentration camp survivor.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
About 6' 1"
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I was sick for a bit last year
And the drugs I was taking made it difficult to eat until my body got used to them.
BEST DIET EVAR!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Cancer isn't all bad!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I would be happy to be 172 pounds.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d be happy to be anything with a one in front of it.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
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"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
weight not age, although there would be some real benefits to not having to pay bills anymore…
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm 215ish
Gained about 20 pounds since April :-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I’m going for 185. I JUST WANT TO LOOK GOOD IN A BIKINI!
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Moobs?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah if I don’t have moobs at 200 I definitely won’t at 185. Maybe a old school one piece?
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
I made the mistake of teaching my little ones that word. They like it a bit too much.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jun 29, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
I somehow find it comforting that this type of jargon is being handed down through the generations. It will live on after us.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
No you don't
My son made a basketball shot this weekend and said BOOYA! Don’t blame me, I didn’t teach it to him.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
“BOOYA! In your MOOBS!”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
at least he didnt yell “AND 1!” and stare you down like a zebra.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
My 4 year old daughter likes “Booya” and “In your face!”
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jun 29, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I jokingly said "in your face!" really intensely to my little cousins once and they repeated it constantly for the rest of the day...
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Once you laugh at it, it’s going to be repeated.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Way too late for that.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jun 29, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Making healthy food can be expensive
Obviously not as much as eating out, but cooking unhealthy food at home is hella cheap.
5’10" down to 175. I don’t really want to lose any more.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I’m 5’7" and my biggest issue is eating grandma-sized portions and having grandma-level snacks around the whole house. I think 165 should be plenty manageable once I’m in a non-cake-readily-available environment.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
…
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, was talking about me. 165 can sit ugly and sit pretty.
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I see. That’s cool then. I was all ready to get defensive, too. 165 really isn’t too bad for our size, anyway. It’s just healthy-thick.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL "was all ready"
I’ve got office job fat. Luckily, the number of people I’m trying to impress/attract is -7, so there’s little incentive to fix things.
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Cooking healthy food is not THAT expensive (usually)
For a single dude like me, anyway. It just takes a decent amount of time that I don’t always have.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Also, it depends on the level of health you’re going for. I definitely don’t eat really healthy, but I think I eat at least decently well and I rarely spend that much or take that much time to cook. Packing some carrots and tomatos for lunch every day doesn’t take much time or money, grabbing a head of broccoli when I go to the grocery store isn’t that hard, eating canned soup or something as a side for dinner with my main course is easy enough and while not amazing, can at least add some veggies to the meal……
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, aside from beer, I only keep V-8 (fusion), milk and orange juice around to drink…..
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I once used my own body size and weight as a reason for not believing that Kevin Frandsen was 170 pounds.
“Look at me! I weigh 180! He can’t be that size!”
It was a dumb way for me to look at things.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I just use that comparison as blatant evidence pablo’s listed weight is about as false as this orginizations commitment to winning.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I have no doubt that his listed weight is a joke.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Similiar to this teams management.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Bochy and Sabean walk into a bar. Buster ducks.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Good thing bengie and pablo haven’t eaten him yet, only a matter of time though.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
played defensive end for 4 years in high school yo.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Big dude is big
inch shorter and 35 pounds lighter
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I’m no fan of eyeballing bodyweight. I find it wholly unreliable. That said, it’s clearly eyeballable that Pablo is well over 250.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone care to play guess tonight's lineup?
Here’s mine:
Torres RF
Sanchez 2B
Huff LF
Uribe 3B
Molina C
Rowand RF
Panda 1B
Renteria SS
Cain P
I struggled with whether Bork might sit Panda today. I also would not be surprised to see Posey, but Bork is probably pissed about the K in the 9th. Finally, I know he is aching to get Burrell back in there, but “Row is just swinging the bat so well right now, how can you not have him in there” and “you can’t get ’em all in there every day.”
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Not enough veterans in that line up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Two RFs? Bold move.
I think this is what Bochy’s thinking:
Sanchez
Renteria
Huff
Uribe
Burrell
Molina
Molina
Molina
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate them but I think I’d rather guess the Dodgers’ lineup:
R. Furcal, SS
M. Kemp, CF
A. Ethier, RF
M. Ramirez, LF
J. Loney, 1B
C. Blake, 3B
R. Martin, C
B. DeWitt, 2B
J. Ely, P
They could be Giants...but not really.
That is depressing. They are way better at every position (except P).
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
first career CG shutout.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, c'mon
Freddy is better than Blake.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Yeah
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Lohel cohn on KNBR talking baseball
This is like listening to ralph break down the warriors pick and roll.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LINCECUM THROWS TOO MANY CHANGEUPS!!!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
WHATS HE DOING? HE WENT FROM BEING A BOOM BOOM PITCHER TO A TRICKSTER? THIS ISN’T WORKING HE NEEDS TO BOOM BOOM AGAIN!
No joke, he said that.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
And I was just basing my comment on his article that was linked on here the other day. I think too much of the best pitch in baseball is the least of our worries.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
He just said something along the lines of “They should try and move monta for garnett”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
OMG
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Which are his usual numbers
I believe he has been given the greatest amount of major league playing time while having the worst offensive numbers.
My theory is that it is because of his name. People just love saying Bocock.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Or because Brian Sabean is bad at his job…..but yeah, I’m gonna go with the cock argument here.
by Missing Barry on Jun 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian sabean is a fan of said cock.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Jun 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
/makes bocock joke
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Do you always have to be so damn bold with your cock!
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Don’t block my bo(ld)cock!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
That would be nice.
I would be so proud…
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Ruben Amaro must be a big fan of Spartcus: Blood and Sand
/ruins joke by explaining:
(they say cock a lot on that show)
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
JonathanMayoB3 #mlbfutures roster changes: #angels C Hank Conger replaces #pirates Tony Sanchez; #giants Zack Wheeler in for #tigers Andy Oliver
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Do they give out fingernails at the futures game?
Dude has not pitched for like 2 months….
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Maybe they should send Buster to catch him, you know, so he can get some experience.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
/is still thinking of Phoebe Cates’ boobs from yesterday.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Blasphemy! They look exactly the same as they did in the 80’s. This is why I think hot chicks who go on to do nothing should be forced in to seclusion once they get older, so that we can remember them the way they were.
by Giant Torture on Jun 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
like two socks filled with sand.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
2009 Phoebe Cates is HOT
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Is that Kevin Kline with her???
"Matt Cain's better at this than I've ever been at anything in my life. He's better at this than you'll ever be, at anything. Matt Cain has a gift. He has a gift, and when you acknowledge that, then maybe we will have something to talk about."
sorry i just need to say this
I fuckin hate bengie fat ass molina.
thank you
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jun 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Espana!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
OT: I went here looking for fantasy baseball news
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Solaris: Interesting, but slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.
It’s been 45 minutes and he’s not even in space. The only thing that’s happened is they played a recording of a conference about the Solaris project.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
There used to be a video game called Solaris for the Atari 2600
I loved that game.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL – U R OLD!
(I have an Atari 2600 with about 50 cartridges, all playable. /nerd)
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
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