Giants/Astros Series Preview
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 22, 2010 10:30 AM PDT
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After salvaging a game against the Blue Jays, the Giants face the...
Oh, come on. Again? This is as bad as the 59 games against the Padres. Except, well, the Giants haven’t lost every game against the Astros. Heck, they’ve done quite well. Maybe the Astros are composed of what physicists call "antihairston," a relatively new discovery in the world of science. It sure would explain a lot.
The Astros were pretty miserable offensively the first two times they met the Giants. How have things gone since then?
| Pos | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ ▾ | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RF | Hunter Pence | 27 | 67 | 270 | 253 | 38 | 68 | 11 | 1 | 10 | 31 | 7 | 4 | 17 | 34 | .269 | .315 | .439 | .754 | 101 |
| 1B | Lance Berkman# | 34 | 55 | 229 | 198 | 23 | 47 | 11 | 0 | 6 | 29 | 2 | 1 | 31 | 46 | .237 | .341 | .384 | .724 | 95 |
| 2B | Jeff Keppinger | 30 | 64 | 264 | 243 | 27 | 69 | 19 | 0 | 1 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 17 | 18 | .284 | .330 | .374 | .704 | 90 |
| P | Felipe Paulino | 26 | 13 | 29 | 24 | 1 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 8 | .292 | .346 | .333 | .679 | 85 |
| UT | Jason Michaels | 34 | 43 | 75 | 73 | 8 | 17 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 13 | .233 | .253 | .411 | .664 | 76 |
| CF | Michael Bourn* | 27 | 68 | 284 | 251 | 42 | 63 | 14 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 21 | 6 | 29 | 54 | .251 | .331 | .315 | .646 | 76 |
| C | Humberto Quintero | 30 | 45 | 145 | 139 | 9 | 35 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 35 | .252 | .278 | .367 | .645 | 72 |
| LF | Carlos Lee | 34 | 68 | 278 | 260 | 28 | 58 | 9 | 1 | 10 | 38 | 1 | 2 | 14 | 32 | .223 | .263 | .381 | .643 | 71 |
| C | Kevin Cash | 32 | 20 | 61 | 54 | 3 | 11 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 13 | .204 | .271 | .333 | .605 | 62 |
| IF | Geoff Blum# | 37 | 50 | 122 | 114 | 8 | 26 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 14 | .228 | .279 | .281 | .559 | 52 |
| C | J.R. Towles | 26 | 17 | 51 | 47 | 3 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 12 | .191 | .235 | .319 | .554 | 48 |
| 3B | Pedro Feliz | 35 | 63 | 240 | 226 | 15 | 50 | 9 | 1 | 2 | 22 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 23 | .221 | .246 | .296 | .542 | 46 |
| 3B | Chris Johnson | 25 | 8 | 22 | 22 | 4 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | .227 | .227 | .318 | .545 | 45 |
| SS | Tommy Manzella | 27 | 58 | 206 | 186 | 13 | 40 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 16 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 56 | .215 | .262 | .258 | .520 | 41 |
| P | Wandy Rodriguez | 31 | 13 | 26 | 23 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 | .261 | .250 | .261 | .511 | 38 |
| OF | Cory Sullivan* | 30 | 57 | 71 | 64 | 6 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 18 | .188 | .257 | .234 | .492 | 34 |
| Team Totals | 30.8 | 70 | 2534 | 2318 | 236 | 540 | 98 | 8 | 40 | 224 | 34 | 17 | 158 | 432 | .233 | .284 | .334 | .618 | 66 | |
| Rank in 16 NL teams | 12 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 16 | 14 | 7 | 16 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 |
Good. God. The thing about this offense that gets me is that there isn’t a single Eli Whiteside or Travis Ishikawa on the Astros. That is, there isn’t a player with a handful of fluky-good at-bats in a small sample. There isn’t a guy on the Astros hitting .350 in 12 at-bats. It’s a simple equation. Have more than a single at-bat this season for the Astros? Then, yeah, you’re having a pretty bad year. Enjoy Aaron Rowand’s hitting this year? His .220/.261/.382 line is close to what the Astros team is hitting collectively. Imagine: Aaron Rowand taking every at-bat of every game this season for your team. Now you have the Astros.
Where I felt overwhelming pity for the Orioles and their plight, though, my pity for the Astros is tempered just a little. Old divisional rivalries die hard.
Hitter to watch:
Hunter Pence is having a Pablo Sandoval kind of season: competent for stretches, but largely disappointing. I would trade quite a bit for Pence, though, so it’s probably good I’m not the GM of the Giants. He looks like a bug-eyed marionette, trying to convince you to join a sketchy religion, but I still think he has a peak in him that will transcend his .282/.346/.472 with 25 homers from last year. His BABIP is low, low, low, and he’s about to start getting really expensive in arbitration. He’d be a pretty sweet player on whom to buy low.
You’d put Pence in left or right, Torres in center, Burrell and Schierholtz could split the last outfield spot, Huff would play first, while Posey caught, and Rowand and Molina would be on the b..a.sdfhahahahaha. Couldn’t keep a straight face. What an acquisition of Pence would really do is push Posey to the bench or minors, so while Pence would be good on a 2011 Giants team that doesn’t have Molina, he probably doesn’t fit just yet.
Pitcher to watch:
Wandy, oh Wandy. Wandy Rodriguez has regressed like few other pitchers in the league this season. His walk and strikeout rates are back to where they were in his first two seasons with the Astros, and his ERA has spiked accordingly. I will absolutely not make a reference to my last-place fantasy team, on which Wandy Rodriguez is absolutely killing me, because people who talk about their fantasy teams are boring. But, man, Wandy. You are a full diaper right now. My fantasy season, which I will not talk about, is shot already, so here’s hoping that Wandy gives up another eight earned, just for giggles.
Prediction:
The Giants are facing Roy Oswalt and Brett Myers, who are both having pretty good years, so if the Giants get too cocky, they’ll outnotscore the Astros.
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Happy Pete
Not so happy aktually
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Feliz seems to have lost his power but none of his hacktasticality. That’s one ugly combination.
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
by EliminateMe on Jun 22, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Only 23 Ks in 240 at bats…that’s not bad at all. Only 2 HR which means we are toast, though.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I was looking at the 8 BBs (and the .246 OBP).
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
by EliminateMe on Jun 22, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This series qualifies as a reverse lock
Also, I hate watching baseball games in their stupid ballpark. It is only a matter of time before they install trapdoors in the outfield and loop-the-loop tracks between the bases.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
Seriously. I like ballpark quirks okay, but I’m surprised MLB didn’t come in and standardize them all after seeing the plan for Enron Field.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jun 22, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I love that it used to be Enron field
Karma, times three. You sell naming rights to the most corrupt horrible flameout corporation in recent US history, and there’s got to be some bad juju comin’ your way. Welcome to your 2011 San Francisco Giants, playing in beautiful British Petroleum Lehman Brothers Halliburton WorldCom Goldman Sachs Field! (shudder)
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by Giantsfan4life on Jun 22, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
They should put a giant cardboard cow in left field. If you hit the cow, it’s an automatic triple.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 22, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
This made me think of Rock and Jock Softball. I used to love watching that on MTV
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Me too, actually.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jun 22, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking about actually. That show was awesome.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 22, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
In high school our field was flanked by a cow pasture just beyond the LF fence
We had a team pool where everyone put in $5 and if you hit a cow you win the pot. Sadly it never happened.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
I can’t believe there isn’t a rule that the friggin playing field has to be flat
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 22, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
An “evening” of the playing field, if you will.
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by can of corn on Jun 22, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that sounds like one fine date right there.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 22, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Charm is one thing, but a flat playing field (outside the mound) seems like an eminently reasonable standard.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
by achiappanza on Jun 22, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Kind of amazed no one’s ankle has exploded out there yet.
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by troymccluresf on Jun 22, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, every time I see a CF go up there I think “okay, he’s not expecting the hill, he’s going to run like it’s flat ground and break something.”
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
Say good-bye to Andres Torres' break out season
by Angry Dwarf on Jun 22, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant took care of that already.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant is considerate in that way.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention, it always seems to be ridiculously dark in there. It always appears to me from television (never actually been to that park in person) that it has the same lighting as a night game at Wrigley. Can’t they put more lights in or something?
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
You have to have seen Whatsisname's faceplant as he tried to run down a fly ball in center some years ago.
I’m nearing the end of my yearlong vacation and fresh from the pool so I’m slightly buzzed but I think it was Edmonds.
It’s ridiculously hazardous topography. Why they allow it is a complete and utter mystery.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 22, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Hazard
And there’s a flagpole on top of it, so you if you manage to get up there, you can still knock yourself out.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
It’s the yearlong vacation from paychecks that stings.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If I hadn't amassed a small pension as a result of my time with the pipe trades' union I'd be living out of a car.
And if you think I’m exaggerating think again.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 23, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Goddamn unions. That pension could have gone to some stockholder somewhere.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 23, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
ohhhh, nostalgia
Baseball and its pitiful crutch of “traditions”. What’s that hill all about again? Forbes Field? Sportsman’s Park? Crosley/Stills/Nash & Young Field?
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Jun 23, 2010 5:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey, don’t knock the design. Those type of things still have lasting appeal, jusrt look at how popular the collesium in Rome is!
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 22, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
our HS field had a curb at the edge of the infield on the 1st base side
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My HS had an entire row of evergreen trees lining the warning track in rf and lf. And there was a WW1 style trench along the lf wall. It was dangerous.
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Jun 23, 2010 5:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope Jason Castro does well, but that we still annihilate the Astros.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jun 22, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep, that heckuva first baseman prospe-, wait a minute...
/facepalm to Sabean
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
CVHS
REP
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Jun 22, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I went there and now I teach there...
I think he graduated a few years after I did.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 22, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think he was 05 as well. I teach English and Social Sciences. This will be my third year teaching there.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 22, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
02
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Jun 23, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that the school w/ the radio station? Or is that CP?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
KVHS
I am a CP grad. Go Falcons
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
It’s kinda funny to me that he beat Michael Taylor to the bigs… a few years back I would NOT have bet on that. But Taylor has really struggled to start this year— more than his normal slow starts even.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jun 22, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
but Drew Storen beat em both
and you knew he would. Storen was ridiculously good at the Farm. Castro was good, and Taylor was pretty good but raw.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
wow no one hitting over 300 at least they have a cool stadium
by Gogiantsandcal on Jun 22, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
I don’t understand how they play in that ballpark and we’ve hit more homers than them
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
It's easy
Huff/Uribe/et al playing above their heads, and Lee/Berkman playing below theirs
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Well
I’d like Pence too, but isn’t he pretty similar to DeJesus..?
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Kind of...
He’s three years younger and has significantly greater power.
"Pablo Sandoval, coming around third like a runaway beer truck." - Kruk
but… nobody fucks with DeJesus
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
by atxgiantsfan on Jun 22, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not completely sold yet.
Does that mean I’m on the Pence?
I've got just three words for you: Duck The Fodgers
that's hot
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I won’t know what to think when Sabean goes hard after Bob Trainwreck next year.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Every big name Sabean actually got
was a massive train wreck.
At least Zito has been good the last couple of years. So maybe not a complete train wreck.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
The one thing that the value stats don’t seem to measure is time lost to injury, or in Zito’s case: never missing a start due to injury. That has got to be worth something over the course of a year, doesn’t it?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh
WAR takes that into account.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
How does that work? I mean, how do you factor not missing starts into a $ value stat?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know the specifics
But it does take it into account; of course it does. It’s why starting pitchers are almost always worth more $ than relievers: more innings pitched.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Innings pitched isn’t what I am saying, though. I am saying not missing starts. Whenever you get injured the team has to replace you with someone else that takes up salary. It really isn’t a ton of money but I am sure there is some real value in staying healthy.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh
You pitch less innings when you miss starts
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
You might pitch fewer innings for a number of reasons…
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
fewer innings= less valuable, no matter the reason
same with ABs/PAs. You don’t need to know exactly WHY the numbers are low, the fact that they’re low tells you everything you need to know. If a player is performing well, they’ll have high PAs/IP. If they’re performing well and have low IP/PAs, they’re either injured or lucky. Or something.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
It seemed to me that the question was whether getting injured (or more properly, having a starter that does not get injured) has some cost to the team above and beyond just the innings pitched…
Now, I don’t know the answer, but simply stating that you, ‘um, pitch less innings when you miss starts’ was non-responsive, dismissive and grammatically incorrect.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That was me, not him
And WAR uses ‘innings pitched’ because it takes everything (injuries, missing starts, whatever) in to account.
The more innings to pitch, the more valuable you are, period. Nothing else in terms of longevity stats matters.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Actually, Johnny has it right.
This is beyond innings pitched. I am asking what is the value of someone who doesn’t cause a team to have to find others to fill those innings. I think that is the easiest way to put it.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No, nothing is beyond innings pitched.
Let’s say there’s a pitcher who starts 5 games and throws 7 innings in each and was hurt for two.
Now we have a pitcher who started 7 games and pitched 5 innings in each.
You might think the guy who started more games is worth more. But he’s not. The guy who only goes 5 hurts his team in other ways; they have to rely on the bullpen, they have to work other starters longer to compensate for a tired bullpen.
Innings pitched is the only measure of this subject that matters. Whether you have to find another starter or not is irrelevant, since if you’re not pitching enough in the games you’re in, your team will have to find others to pitch in the bullpen.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
I disagree. In terms of the statistics you are correct. In terms of the financial aspect of a team I think having a player not miss any playing time gives him extra value over the guy who is a constant playing time question mark.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the idea was that you still have to pay the injured guy, and in addition to that acquire another arm for the team.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t sign new players just because your pitchers misses a few starts. Lincecum and Sanchez both missed starts last year (not to mention Randy Johnson) and it didn’t cost us anything.
I was promised lasagna.
I think that depends on how many starts are missed… for instance, didn’t Brad Penny take Johnson’s spot last year?
I don’t know why I’m trying to clarify someone else’s position…
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it is because you understand what I am saying and others do not appear to.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I get it. Innings pitched would take missed starts into account, but IP also takes into account a lot of other things, including innings that have to be eaten up by the ’pen even if the starter starts every start.
You’re looking for something that addresses only the cost of a player who misses starts due to injury, or, conversely, who never does.
I know I’m the one who mentioned Johnson, but he’s not really an example of what he’s talking about. He’s talking about missing a few starts a year, not 3 months.
Whenever you get injured the team has to replace you with someone else that takes up salary. It really isn’t a ton of money but I am sure there is some real value in staying healthy.
I gather from this that he’s talking about paying salary to they guys you call up from AAA, like Sadowski.
But these guys make $400K a year, which means you pay them a bit over $2,000 per day. So even if a guy misses 5 starts, it only costs you about $40,000, which is really meaningless.
I was promised lasagna.
Meaningless?
That’s over half a Fred Lewis!
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But Brad Penny didn’t cost any more than the league minimum to us. He was being paid by the Red Sox.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Just an example of acquiring a new player to cover for an injury.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what to make of this series. I just like the Fanhouse headline “Drayton McLane: Astros Open to ‘Anything’ Entering Trade Season.” Houston sluts!
They spent the first three years of high school playing hard to get and now they’ve realized they’re still virgins. That’s actually a pretty good analogy to “they thought they could compete when they couldn’t and now they’re figuring that out”.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
Exactly. And now, on Grad Night, they're looking to find a dark corner
with anyone and everyone.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Pence
Am I the only one who finds it odd that his his .754 OPS translates to a 101 OPS+? I would think the park adjustment would have driven it down.
Big opportunity series for the Giants. With the Padres playing the Red Sox and the Dodgers playing the Angels, this would be a great time to move up in the standings before the tough games kick in.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I checked out the park effects just now. Apparently AT&T has been the 3rd worst run scoring environment in the bigs this year.
In ‘09 Minute Maid Park was 24th, this year it’s 16th for runs (11th for HRs)
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I think part of the reason AT&T “suppresses” offense is pretty much every game you have a good pitcher on the mound. We don’t really have league average pitchers to raise the offense there at all. That came out badly but I think I made my point.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
In theory I don’t think it would matter who you had on your team.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I think
it only checks the home team offense vs. offense on the road and home team pitching vs. pitching on the road to correct for that. I could be wrong tho
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the Dodgers are not gonna be there when the smoke clears
my opinion: they just don’t have the pitching for the long haul, their defense is meh, Manny is shriveling up, and Ethier and Kemp are reverting, Martin has no power, etc, etc.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming.--Homer Simpson
Normally, I would think that they would look to pick up Oswalt or Lee at the deadline. However, the divorce puts that kind of thinking in question. Unless they can get the Mariners or Disastros to take on some salary, I don’t really see a move for more pitching by the Dodgers.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't suck, Giants.
Now I’m gonna go swim with some dolphins. Being on vacation rocks.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Shouldn’t the dolphins be in the vacation water?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Well played
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Pics or gtfo
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I said that, but later.
LARS THE PRE – EMPTER!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 22, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
3.5 more work days
then I’ll be on vacation, no dolphins though. Heck I won’t even have electricity or running water for most of it.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
Yeah but that sounds pretty awesome to me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 22, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
I’m excited to be totally off the grid for a couple of days.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
Yeah
Especially when that vacation last two months.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Where… - burrrp - are th’ damned PICTURRS?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 22, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Punch them in the mouth if you get the chance.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Giants version = much prettier
Rk Pos OPS+
2 UT Pat Burrell 169
3 1B Aubrey Huff* 148
4 1B Travis Ishikawa* 130
5 C Eli Whiteside 123
6 OF Andres Torres# 123
7 SS Juan Uribe 117
8 SS Edgar Renteria 116
9 2B Freddy Sanchez 116
10 3B Pablo Sandoval# 103
11 1B Buster Posey 99
12 RF Nate Schierholtz* 87
13 2B Matt Downs 82
14 C Bengie Molina 71
15 UT Eugenio Velez# 68
16 CF Aaron Rowand 67
17 OF John Bowker* 59
Team Totals 95
Rank in 16 NL teams
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 6/22/2010.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
My formatting = not so pretty
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
No, no, your formatting was still very clear: Bengie Molina & Aaron Rowand suck.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand worse than Clank
Eugenio FTW!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
lol bowker
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
The only one below the Houston average OPS+, and not by much
He’d be in the middle of their pack.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Also, to the small number of KNBR caller weirdos that want Carlos Lee
The charts show that he is Bengie Molina.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
TI doing his thang.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
by SeeingStars on Jun 22, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It’d be prettier if you cut it off after Matt Downs.
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
by EliminateMe on Jun 22, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
This post without context is pretty scary.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
wow that almost looks like a competent offense wtf
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not that I really follow the rest of the league, but I always assumed Hunter Pence was just Jeff Francouer — RHH, never walks, a homerun once in a while, great arm in right field.
by non sequitur on Jun 22, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
this
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Fix the throw pillows, too! Wipe the countertops!
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t forget to vacuum
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
These is a Giants/Astros series
I doubt sucking will be in short supply.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
THESE IS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I appreciate when she says this
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
/Lars excitedly waits
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
/has yet another joke fly over her head
Is that just a reference to how terrible and boring that show was?
Yeah, this.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 22, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked that show
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Eh
I got it, I just didn’t like it.
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I watched a handful of episodes (I think it only lasted one season). I thought it was okay, though Sorkin was in sledgehammer mode most of the time. A big problem was that it was just a lesser Sports Night.
by non sequitur on Jun 22, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
But Sports Night was so great that even a pale shadow of it could’ve been a pretty decent show. I liked much of Studio 60 but it never really found its stride.
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
by EliminateMe on Jun 22, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
The “it was too smart for you” dodge ain’t gonna work on this douchebag. It fucking sucked, and I think even Sorkin knows that. It’d be near impossible to follow up “The West Wing” with a show as brilliant, but to make something so smug, self-aggrandizing, “Inside Baseball” only for the sake of axe-grinding is not what I would call “entertaining,” “good,” or “over anyone’s head.” It was just bad. Like how “Funny People” was bad. An artist with no restrictions and absolute control typically — in terms of TV & Film — makes something like this.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, Funny People was TERRIBLE. It felt like it was 5 hours long, for one thing. Also, it wasn’t funny. At all. Just some weird self-absorbed Adam Sandler trip. A huge disappointment.
The first two acts were great
The ending suuuuuucked.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
oh man
have you seen this?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
this
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
In this line
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Fixed
Oh man, Funny People was TERRIBLE. It felt like it was 5 hours long, for one thing. Also, it wasn’t funny. At all. Just some weird self-absorbedAdam SandlerJudd Apatow trip. A huge disappointment.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it was “too smart for you” but rather “too hollywood insider for you and you won’t give a shit about most of it.” I was living in LA working in the TV business when this show was on, so I enjoyed it a lot, but didn’t really ever understand how anyone who didn’t work in TV would like it at all
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I work in TV and thought the show completely missed the point and it was only about Sorkin’s very specific experience which is, unsurprisingly, not the norm for most in the industry.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Funny People wasn’t bad at all. It wasn’t a comedy, though, and expecting it to be one is unfair to the source material.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 22, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It was very effective as a piece of directionless crap.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Best descriprion ever!
He looks like a bug-eyed marionette, trying to convince you to join a sketchy religion
I ain't havin' it
Speaking of avatars, I sorta miss the one of you and Evan. Is he no longer your boo?
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not exactly sure.
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jun 22, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Texas baseball makes me feel better about being a Giants fan. Between the Astros and the Rangers who have almost a century of baseball without a single World Series.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
hey guys im new how do you get that quote thing under your comment
by Gogiantsandcal on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
10 McCoven Bucks.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
500,000 Frankenfrancs
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 22, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you mean the signature? Or do you mean the block quoting?
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
the by the time i was twelve the dodgers made me vomit thing
by Gogiantsandcal on Jun 22, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok, then its exactly what kdl said right below this. And she didn’t even use the words “link-thingy” and “whatchamacallit” like I would have
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he or she means the signature.
Go to your profile (by clicking on your picture at the top of the page); click on “edit profile.” In the box entitled “signature,” type whatever quote you want.
Aw, and I just thought you were asking about blockquote, which is easy, so I made fun. Sorry!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
You’re not a real member of MCC until you’ve been made fun of multiple times. You’re just getting gogiantsandcal started.
Ah, but I made fun of him/her on false premises, so really, I’m the one to be mocked here!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
YOU ARE POORLY ENDOWED AND LACK INTELLECT
Like that?
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 22, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Thank you!
If you could work something in about my face, that would be even better.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
SHITFACE
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I know I was doing it wrong, but the jcb9 shitface episode needed explicit representation.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I was expecting a “Don’t eat my face” reference.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Not from me. I unlike that commercial.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 22, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
YOUR FACE IS UNPLEASANT TO LOOK AT!
"I never think I’m a good player or a bad player. This is what I’m thinking: I can play. And I want to play." - Juan Uribe
by EliminateMe on Jun 22, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate you and I hate your ass face!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
When people look at jcb9, they need to ask which end to pull numbers out of.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 22, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
irl lol
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
LOL
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I have some counterfeit Frankenfrancs I need laundered… maybe we can work something out.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 22, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
COUNTERFEIT Frankenfrancs?
But…they’re all counterfeit!
/begins to smoke
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 22, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
i want to get in on this hazing thing—where’s the button?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 22, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
"Hunter Pence" anagram
ERECT ’N UP HEN
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions
Do you mean the signature? Or do you mean the block quoting?
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions
reply fail
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
wandy
I traded Wandy for Brian Wilson at the start of the season… :)
Anagram of Houston Astros
Anus Shorts Too
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Anus Shots Root
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
In Australian slang, “root” having sex; that’s a little disturbing in that light.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Australians, most likely to have sex on the first date.
by Every6thDay on Jun 22, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I learned of this, by the way, from an Australian friend who was very bemused by “Take Me Out To The Ballgame” during the Sydney Olympics. Apparently, for the Australian audience, they changed the lyrics to, “Cheer and root for the home team,” which doesn’t actually address the basic problem.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
that’s a little disturbing in that light.
Turn the damned light off then.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 22, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
RUN TO ASS, SHOOT!
"Buster Posey" anagram = YET SO SUPERB
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 22, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
OT
ESPN has a Rank ’Em poll for NL starters. You might say the Giants are well represented:
They could be Giants...but not really.
by esseffgeez on Jun 22, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Awesome
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.