minor lines, 6/19/10
Highlights from the Giants' farm: Brandon Belt homered and singled. and Darren Ford reached base four times and stole three bases.
AAA: Fresno defeated Reno 4-0
Fresno: SS Manny Burriss: 2 for 3, BB, SB
Fresno: SP Henry Sosa: 4.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 5 BB, 3 K
Fresno: RP Brandon Medders: 1.1 IP
Burriss had two of the Grizzlies' five hits (all singles). His second straight multi-hit line gives him a .375 AVG in five rehab games with Fresno.
Despite a season-high 5 BB, Sosa threw 4.2 scoreless IP in his third start and 20th appearance overall. He now has almost as many walks as hits with peripheral stats of 30 H, 29 BB and 33 K in 46.0 IP. He thew 51 of 83 pitches for strikes. With 1.1 perfect IP to finish the combined shutout tonight, Medders made his sixth straight appearance without allowing a run.
AA: Richmond lost to Altoona 3-2 (12 innings)
Richmond: CF Darren Ford: 3 for 5, HBP, 3 SB
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 1 for 4, BB
Richmond: SP David Mixon: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
Richmond: RP Rafael Cova: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 WP
With three of the Flying Squirrels' seven hits (all singles), Ford reached base four times and improved his AVG to .241. He also had 3 SB, giving him a 22/9 SB/CS line for the year. Gillaspie was one of just two other Squirrels to reach base twice. His OBP is just .283.
Mixon had his second straight quality start with 1 K. In his first season as a starter, he continues to have a fine campaign, now with a 3.07 ERA through fourteen starts. Cova stranded three baserunners in the 11th inning but then allowed a run in the 12th inning to take the loss. He has a 0-3 W-L record despite allowing just 5 R (4 ER) all year.
A+: San Jose defeated Lake Elsinore 6-3
San Jose: 1B Brandon Belt: 2 for 4, HR, SO
San Jose: 2B Charlie Culberson: 2B Charlie Culberson: 2 for 2, BB, SF
San Jose: SP Kyle Nicholson: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K
San Jose: RP Oliver Odle: 3.0 IP, 1 H, 4 K--1 WP
San Jose: RP David Quinowski: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 4 K
San Jose: RP Edwin Quirarte: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
Belt had his 9th HR, tying Culberson for the team lead. Culberson reached base three times as he had multiple hits for ths seventh time in his last nine games. His AVG is now .314. Given that he is a year younger than Belt and plays a more premium position defensively, is he perhaps a better prospect than Belt who has gained more attention throughout the season for flirting with a .400 AVG?
For a reason that's not apparent from the box score, Nicholson pitched just three innings in his twelfth start this year. He, Odle and Quinowski combined for 8.0 shutout IP while facing just four batters over the minimum before Quirarte yielded 3 ER in the 9th inning. Quirarte's line is completely out of step with his performances previous this year as he gave up 3 ER and 3 BB tonight after yielding just 3 ER and 4 BB in his previous nineteen appearances this year.
A-: Augusta defeated Savannah 5-4
(after tying the game with four runs in the 8th inning)
Augusta: RF Dan Cook: 2 for 5
Augusta: SP Andrew Reichard: 6.0+ IP, 10 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 8 K--1 HR, 1 WP
Augusta: RP Jose Casilla: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Augusta: RP Ryan Verdugo: 2.0 IP, 1 BB, 4 K
Cook had the GreenJackets' only multi-hit line. With his seven-game hitting streak and his third straight multi-hit game, the 24-year-old has improved his season line to .278/.328/.393 through 234 AB.
Making his first start of the year after nine relief appearances, Reichard had a rough 1st inning in which he allowed three earned runs, but then he allowed just one more run over the next five innings. Casilla threw another perfect inning. In nine appearances since mid-May (which goes back to his last appearance before his 21st birthday), his stats are 0 H, 0 R, 3 BB, and 9 K in 9.2 IP. Verdugo racked up another four strikeouts.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Everett 5-3
Salem-Keizer: C-1B Jesse Shriner: 1 for 3, HR, BB, PB
Salem-Keizer: DH Andrew Burg: 0 for 4, 3 SO
Salem-Keizer: SP Edward Concepcion: 3.0 IP, 3 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 4 K--1 WP
Shriner, who signed as an undrafted free agent two years ago, provided the bulk of the Volcanoes' offense with a three-run, two-out HR in the 6th inning. Burg, the Volcanoes' offensive hero the previous night, took the oh-fer with the hat trick in his second NWL game.
Concepcion, who had a 4.61 ERA as a starter in the AZL last summer, had a rough NWL debut.
R: Scottsdale begins their season on Tuesday
DSL: Giants defeated Mets1 6-0 (8 innings)
(with the game completed early)
Dominican: C Fernando Pujadas: 2 for 2, 2B, HBP
Dominican: SP Luis Angeles: 7.2 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HB
Pujadas (18.5 y.o.), playing in his seventh pro game, reached base in all three plate appearances. In his fourth pro start, Angeles (20.6 y.o.) nearly pitched a complete game shutout. His ERA is now 2.10.
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I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I think what makes Belt much more promising than Culberson is the walk/strikeout rate.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
Yeah. And Culberson might play a more valuable position, but it seems like he still doesn’t play it very well. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)
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Yeah I think he has an iron glove
but he can use it at 2B, SS, and 3B
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He's an error machine, although he's been better at 2B this year
He had over 30 errors at 3B in only 3/4 of the season last year in Augusta. He was so bad, that they moved him to 2B as a last resort. If he can’t hack it there, LF is his next stop.
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If the number of errors is the criterion for defense, which unfortunately may be all we have statistically for the lower minors, then I don’t think Belt rates that much better than Culberson. Culberson has 9 errors, while Belt has 6 errors, which strikes me as a reasonably high number for a first baseman.
I wonder if some the errors on belt are errors that should be on other IF’s for bad throws.
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by say hey nation on Jun 21, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Belt handles way more chances at 1B than Culberson does at 2B, so his percentage of errors to chances is much lower than Culby’s. Also, Belt has great range for a 1B, so he gets to tough balls that most other 1B won’t even touch – which increases his chances of making errors. Finally, Belt is working from a history of being a great defender at 1B during his college days, while Culby is working from a history of being an awful defender the past 2 summers at Augusta. His D was so bad at 3B that the Giants were forced to move him to 2B.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Yes, Culberson still Ks at an alarming rate and almost never walks (19% K-rate, 4.5% BB-rate). Belt has yet to fail in the minors, while Charlie has just finished a very nice 3 week stretch, but that was preceded by 2 years of utter failure in Augusta (2008 and 2009).
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The “yet to fail” part is big for me; Culberson is just now showing promise, while Belt is tearing it up right from the start. Sure, that means that they’ve both got the same amount of promising years, but the fact that Culberson’s suffers from the “well, he’s spent a bunch of time in the minors, maybe this is just his fluke year” and Belt pretty much has a 100% success rate makes a major difference. If you’re going to struggle and want to be considered a top prospect, then you’d better put together a couple good to great years in a row.
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What do you consider a decent K-rate? It seems like 19% K-rate isn’t THAT bad, at least in my opinion; I’d say 25% and above is getting worrisome, but 19%, while not ideal, isn’t terrible. It’s the K/BB that looks bad for Culberson.
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by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
18% seems to be the line in the sand for non-power guys
If Culberson could be projected to be a power bat, then 19% wouldn’t be that alarming to me, considering his age. The guys at Hardball Times posted a very interesting article on this a while back. Basically, according to their research, a 19% K-rate in A ball would translate to about a 25% in the majors. That’s possibly acceptable for a power hitter, but not somebody like Culberson that has yet to show any sign of sustained power. The other thing that you have to remember is that Culberson had to go on this 3-week hot streak just to get his K-rate down to 19% for the year.
Here’s the article I mentioned, in case anybody wants to read it:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-many-strikeouts-is-too-many/
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Hey, thanks for the article! Good read. And you’re definitely right on that being too high for a non-power hitter. It’ll be interesting to see where his stats end up at the end of the year.
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by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 20, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Happy to see Sosa starting
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Gillaspie looks like he could fit right in with a few of the big Giants. Has his attitude changed the past year? I heard last year that he had sense of entitlement was pretty arrogant (and not in the good way).
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Hopefully this coming Wednesday
SJ has 1 game left before the 1st half ends. BBelt (and JCP, Westcott, and Surkamp) will be playing in the ASG on Tuesday. It’s being held in North Carolina this year, so that would be a fine time for the Giants to punch his ticket just up the road to Richmond.
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Send him to Fresno
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by rxmeister on Jun 20, 2010 7:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Surkamp go up to Richmond with him
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by Gobroks on Jun 20, 2010 11:17 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Edward Concepcion
He continued the pattern that he had in the AZL last year. He’s great for the first 3 innings, give or take, but then he implodes. Last night he allowed 1 single, 0 runs, 0 BBs, and 4 Ks through the first 3 innings. But in the 4th he allows 5 runs on 4 BBs and 2 singles, and has to leave the game without recording an out in the inning.
If he can’t fix this problem by the end of this season, then the Giants need to train him as a reliever. He has enough stuff to be at least a good set-up man.
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I see that he faced 18 batters. Does anyone know if it is an endurance thing (stamina training, pacing etc) or does he just show all his stuff the first time through the llne up and the second time or just not sound enough yet out of the stretch? Only 1 hit and no walks in the first 9 P.A.’s sure was nice but 3 SB in the first 2 times a batter reaches base sounds a bit like stretch vs wind up mechanics issues to me.
I would like to see the kid put things together enough to go from the DSL to the Show would be nice story.
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Last year the story was that it was an endurance issue, but now I’m thinking that it must be more of a “once through the lineup” issue. He must just have the good, heavy FB and not much secondary pitches, because it sure seems like the hitters tee off on him the 2nd time they face him. If it was just a stamina issue, then we should be seeing some positive results from all the work that he’s been putting in by now.
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There are actually lots of big leaguers who are former DSL players, including probable HOFers and even a current Giant or two.
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On KNBR they keep saying Burriss is on an injury rehab assignment and should be back soon. Do they really think he’s being recalled?
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by rxmeister on Jun 20, 2010 7:51 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I think someone said he still has an option and the infield is cluttered enough as it is, so I honestly can’t imagine the Giants calling him up
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But he had a line of .375 / .412 / .438 at Fresno in five games before getting hurt. It’s totally like the Giants to overreact to a SSS like that!
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I was just looking at BA’s draft page, and they have several of our players as having been signed, which they didn’t last time I looked.
Some of it’s probably old news, but I hadn’t seen it before, so:
3) Carter Jurica
4) Seth Rosin
9) Chris Lofton
11) Adam Duvall
14) Raynor Campbell
26) Jeff Arnold
32) Kevin Couture
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Adam Duvall
He’s the only new guy on the list. All of the other 6 guys have been previously reported in several other threads, and in the local paper (http://www.statesmanjournal.com), as p;aying in S-K. I assume that means that Duvall is being assigned to the AZL Giants.
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The Chronicle reported today that Jurica and Rosin just signed.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Way to go Chron!
I see they’re living up to their usual standards. Jurica and Rosin have been in Salem for at least 4 days now, and Jurica played his 3rd game last night (counting the exhibition on Thursday night). I wonder how the Chron feels about being scooped by the Salem Statesman-Journa? They reported on Thursday morning that Jurica was in Salem and already with the team, and then they printed the entire S-K roster on Friday morning.
I guess the Chron has let its Nexxis-Lexxis subscription expire.
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Neal Update
not sure if this has been posted or discussed yet in recent days, but
Squirrels outfielder Thomas Neal was out of the starting lineup for the second consecutive game with a bruise in his right shoulder. He pinch hit in the 12th, grounding out. Neal suffered the injury diving on the warning track Thursday.
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Aaron Rowand would be proud. Then he’d strike out.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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