The new-look offense
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2010 10:55 AM PDT
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PrintSince May 29th, when Buster Posey started his first game, the Giants have averaged over five runs per game. It would be a fallacy to imply that Posey is entirely responsible for the improvement, but it would also be a fallacy to imply that Posey has limitations. Could Posey create a curveball with so much break that even he could not hit it? Philosophers can waste hours debating that question, right after they ring you up at Borders*.
If you want to go deeper down the causation/correlation rabbit hole, you could note that the Giants are scoring almost five-and-a-half runs per game since acquiring Pat Burrell. That one actually might have a nice correlation going, as Burrell is hitting .407/.452/.741 in his ten games as a Giant, which has helped the offense just a wee bit.
So the Giants are "scoring runs." It feels like the first time. Like it never did before. Open up the door. Won’t you open up the door? Yeah. Feels like the first time.The Giants offense improved after the team employed the novel "Get Players Who Hit Better" strategy. But will it hold up? There are six -- six! -- new additions to the lineup who have helped the Giants score more runs than expected:
Pat Burrell
Aubrey Huff
Buster Posey
Freddy Sanchez
Andres Torres
Juan Uribe
While some of those performances aren’t sustainable -- Pat Burrell just might not be a .400 hitter -- it’s not hard to believe that these players will continue to outproduce the Rowand/Renteria/Bowker/DeRosa lineup from the start of the season. One by one:
- It’s tempting to believe that the old Burrell is back, as he’s looked like a patient, powerful masher since arriving. But that’s why sample sizes are important -- every crazy-hot player looks like vintage Ted Williams while they’re hot. We haven’t seen the Burrell who waves at breaking balls that bounce in the first-base coach’s box, and that’s the one who was frustrating Tampa fans for 150 games over the past two seasons. I’ll split the difference: he’s not going to be as wretched as he was with Tampa, but he isn’t an offensive savior. If he sniffs his Philadelphia production, he’ll have his uses on a team with a strikeout-oriented staff, especially against left-handers. One warning: if Burrell suddenly goes 4-for-93, it will take a crowbar to remove him from the starting lineup now.
- Huff is walking more than he’s striking out, and even though he’s over 30 and looked wretched last year, it’s worth noting that he’s just 18 months removed from a 16th-place finish in the AL MVP race. He’ll probably cool off a little bit, but if he just matches his career averages for the rest of the year, he’ll be the best acquisition of the past few years.
- Posey started hot, but he only has two hits in his last 16 at-bats. It’s a good thing that happened after he was already hitting .444. Imagine if he started 2-for-16 this year, and 4-for-33 for his career. You’d be able to spread the panic on a sandwich, and there’s a good chance that Posey might not have had another start in the majors until September. So let’s appreciate that he Velezed his way into the lineup for a while, but he did so while actually having major-league hitting ability. That was pretty lucky.
- Freddy Sanchez needs to hit for a high average to be a productive hitter, which he’s doing. The BABIP will come down from .397, so hopefully he’ll at least be able to maintain the pace he was on (.296/.334/.442) before the Giants traded for him.
- Andres Torres is worth a post of his own. He’s been the best leadoff hitter in the league. He’s hitting for power, walking more, and striking out less. There isn’t a lot of precedent for a 32-year-old player to win a starting job and suddenly turn into one of the 20 best players in the game. So I’ll enjoy this, and I’ll wait for the other shoe to drop for the next two years, while hoping it doesn’t.
- Juan Uribe just might have been extremely unlucky this whole time. After his breakout year when he was 24 (.283/.327/.506), Uribe had a .260 BABIP spread over four seasons. A low BABIP doesn’t always mean a player was unlucky, but for perspective, that would be a lower mark than anyone else in baseball over the past three years. So he was available for a tub of mutton, and his BABIP has been much closer to the rest of the league since he’s been a Giant. Maybe, just maybe, he was more unlucky than bad when he was on the White Sox.
All of them could crater. All of them could continue to contribute. I’m not going to invest mentally in either scenario. I’ll just enjoy the new-look lineup that often features seven -- seven! -- hitters that don’t make me cringe. Even though I’d prefer a team with Nate Schierholtz instead of Bengie Molina -- both at the plate and in the field -- it’s almost ungrateful to complain about that right now. Seven hitters that don’t make me cringe? Rod? Rod Serling? Is that you in the bushes? You can come out now.
*guffawed the English major
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16th-place finish in the AL MVP race.
16th-Place! Wooooooooooooooooooooo!
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I’m a bit worried (moreso than with any of the other players) that once Freddy starts hitting .280 instead of .340, he’ll look kind of bad, but hey, with his defense he’ll still be useful.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Why do you think Sanchez will "look bad"
Because I think the only question with him is health. He is a damn good hitter and always has been. .340 is a bit much. But .310 is very doable. It is not as if he’s getting a lot of seeing eye hits. Heck I can think of three ab’s with the bases loaded when he’s scalded the ball only to be robbed. The guy knows the strike zone and hits the ball hard to all fields. A gap machine. Just keep healthy baby.
Of all of the 6 – he is probably the most likely to stay close to where he is, with Huff a close second. He’s 33, not 37. 33 is a prime year. He just struggled last year. It happens. Plus, he has, I think, a little chip on his shoulder. No one offered him a whole lot last year. No multi-year deals etc. Apparently, others put too much stock in ’09 as well. Plus his reputation as a poor defensive player (and I have to say I have yet to see any rational basis for that rep) hurt him.
Torres? Who knows. But he has seemed to figure out the strike zone and he has a very short compact quick stroke. So … here’s hoping. I LOVE watching the guy play. He has quickly become my favorite everyday player. HE brings a pure joy to the game that is infectious. And he’s a terrific outfielder.
As Burrell said – its the Gazelle and two water buffaloes out there right now. But its working.
Uribe: He continues to amaze me. I don’t know what to think.
Because at the moment he’s ISOing about .070 in both discipline and slugging. While he’s hitting .340, that’s fine, but if he goes down to .300 or .280, all of a sudden, you’ve got a fairly mediocre hitter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
.300 still wouldn’t be bad for a good defending 2B, .280 is pushing it a bit, but overall, I think he’ll be solid if unspectacular when all is said and done.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
.340 is a bit much. But .310 is very doable.
Neither one of which was the scenario she was talking about.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I just don’t even have words for what Andres Torres has done as a Giant so far.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
look at this
THIRD MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE WHAT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jun 15, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
THE MCCOVEN ARE GOING TO WAR!
(we’ve waited a long time for this)
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
RAR!
Outside of a noise Simba made to sound impressive, what IS that?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
this does not count.
Marlon Byrd is on this list. Therefore, it is invalid.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
You realize he’s hitting .333/.375/.543 this year?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL .042 ISO
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
The ISO Is .210. .042 Is The Difference Between AVG And OBP
by giantsrainman on Jun 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think everyone knew what he meant
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Am I the only one in the world who uses the term IsoOB? Seems handy to me.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
HE IS STILL MARLON BYRD
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
DO YOU REALLY EXPECT THE WAR STAT TO DOWNGRADE HIM 10 RUNS FOR “BEING MARLON BYRD”
DOES THAT REALLY SEEM FAIR
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Science
It is the standard penalty for persons having a first and last animal name.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
HIS SURNAME IS A BYRD
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
NO
BUT HE IS MARLON BYRD SO THIS SORT OF PRODUCTIVITY IS UNSUSTAINABLE
HE IS STILL MARLON BYRD
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
BUT HE HAS STILL PRODUCED, TO THIS POINT, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/holds hands over ears
lalalala
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
It’s possible that Torres and Uribe were the two best pickups in baseball in the winter of 2009. They certainly were for the money, and they’re on a very short list in terms of pure production. And Torres may be my favorite thing about Giants baseball in a lot of years.
Dumpster Diving FTW!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
The best thing is I don’t think anyone even remembers signing Torres. He just was there in Spring Training last year and no one knew who the hell he was.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Man
searching for “Andres Torres” and going back to last March is hilarious!
No one even made a post that we’d signed him/invited him to Spring Training! He just showed up!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think I created a poll in a fanpost or fanshot asking who should play RF and I included him…I’m pretty sure he and Velez received the least amount of votes.
by Into the Void on Jun 15, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Before this season started, Torres and Velez were the two players I really didn’t want to see anywhere near the 25-man roster.
I was half-right.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought
that Torres would be a good 4th/5th OF, but there’d be no way he could sniff his production from last season, and it was all SSS chicanery. I’m happy to have been wrong.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Hilariously, his lefty/righty splits from last year have totally reversed. He’s been amazing from the left side and pretty bad from the right side, which is the exact opposite of how he hit last year.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
WALK ONdres
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
if you want to be depressed
look at how much money each group is making.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Make it Huff, Uribe, Torres, and Posey vs. DeRosa, Renteria, Rowand, and Molina
Group 1 – 7.3 WAR for $7,076,000
Group 2 – 0.7 WAR for $34,100,000
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 15, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow. Just wow.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This must mean we’re a Big Market team — because we can afford our mistakes!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Considering the way the draft unfolded
I’m not sure we can. We just make up the difference in other places.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Dumpster diving is one of the few things that I really like about Sabean.
I think we should give him more credit for moves like that. Yeah, sometimes those moves turn out to be Ryan Klesko or the return of Russ Ortiz. But then, they sometimes turn out to be Torres or Jose Cruz Jr. (I don’t care if he dropped that ball, he had a great year for us)
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Klesko was good for half a season
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He was also good for the O-face homerun swing picture, too
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Yeah
The bullpen pieces under Sabean have been quite good, recently.
Maybe that’s why he was willing to give up Nathan in that one trade.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
ryan klesko wasn't that bad
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
especially for the price
I think he was $1MM.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Also
fuck that. If Sabean was a half way decent GM, he wouldn’t need to dumpster dive all the fucking time. It’s doing things like giving Zito 126 mil and Rowand 60 mil that hamstring you to the point where you have to hope a guy like Torres turns into Ricky Henderson 2.0
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I really don't like Brian Sabean as a GM
But he has done some good dumpster dives. There’s nothing wrong with dumpster diving, even if you manage the rest of your team efficiently (which Sabean does not).
There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that Sabean does this minor thing well. (Though not as well as I’d like. I remember wanting Ortiz when he was released by the Twins. I wish Sabean had also wanted Ortiz).
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
dumpster diving is a crapshoot, which is why sabean shouldn’t be given that much credit for getting lucky
Disagree
To believe this means that it’s impossible to evaluate talent, really. There’s no reason why dumpster diving is any more of a crapshoot than drafting, free agent signing, trades, etc. Sure, there’s a crapshoot element, but you can also be good at it.
Sabean is good at it.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
He should be given credit for understanding that he is getting a potential high reward for a definite low risk.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
And having some good minor league scouts out there that you listen to.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Exactly
It’s like a dumbshit taking a 15 foot boat into the middle of a hurricane, getting sucked up into a waterspout and dumped onto a lost gold mine somewhere in the Sierras, and then saying, “Look how good I am at finding gold mines!”
No asswipe, you’re just one of the luckiest dumbshits to walk the earth. It has NOTHING to do with skill.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That might be the worst analogy ever
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
The guy would have to find like three or four gold mines that way.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Even then it'd be a pretty crappy analogy
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Steve and Elena had never met each other, just like two butterflies that had also never met each other.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Like I said, he was good for half a season (like .385/.475 or something) and then absolutely terrible in the second half.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
also a jackass
You have to go to a little league game to see that many yucky faces made at an umpire.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Pujols
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
MARLON BYRD BITCHES! WUT?
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And first most valuable nondouchebag player
by iamwhatiam on Jun 15, 2010 8:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Rich Aurilia mentioned last night on the post-game show that Andres has battled injuries his whole career. I guess this is what he looks like when healthy.
Pretty Swiss - cheesey minor resume. Lotta holes. What's in them?
/not looking in holes
/except maybe Pujols
“I’m not here to talk about the past…”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
OPEN THE GODDAMN DOOR!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:04 AM PDT reply actions
My favorite part of all this
Panda is just getting warmed up. Once he cruises (hey, at the very least, he’ll get hot at times), we can afford a few slack performances.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
awesome avatar, BTW
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yeah. Pretty slick.
BP – Bad Pun
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If used the right way it could be a great thing.
There are 24 games in 26 days between the time Renteria comes back and the AS break, including a pretty rough 11 games in 11 days road trip which comes right on the heels of the back to back BoSox and Dodgers series’. I doubt anyone is thinking Uribe couldnt use 3-5 additional days off in that span. Let Buster catch at least 3 or 4 times before the break in addition to, not instead of, the Whiteside/Sanchez games, then sit Buster, Pablo and Freddy each at least a couple times and you’ve got 12-18 starts for Renteria. This pretty much makes Huff exclusively an outfielder but I really don’t know if Renteria’s return could come at a better time. I’ve never been a big Renteria fan but I’m not sure we should be lamenting the return of a shortstop currently rocking a .372 OBP even if he is Edgar Renteria.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I'd like to see Posey catch Joey and Zito
He caught Joey in Fresno and Zito, in addition to having reported friction with Bengie in the past, probably most calls his own game anyway. Let Whiteside catch Sanchez; his bat is more productive than Molina’s anyway.
Timmy and Cain seem to have boners for Bengie, so keep them happy, even if it hurts the offense.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
My problem with this is
…and yeah, humor me, I know we’ve already discussed this a ton…
At some point, Bengie must step aside for Buster, right? So at some point, Posey has to start catching Lincecum and Cain, otherwise we’re looking at re-signing Bengie.
Besides, if the Giants really are concerned about Posey’s ability to handle velocity, he’s not going to get better catching Zito and YEAH JOEY.
They could be Giants...but not really.
fixed
At some point, Bengie must step be pushed aside for Buster
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Edgar Renteria's OBP
Milking the first two weeks of the season since, well, the first two weeks of the season.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
not quite
and again, that start to the season is like 20% of his PA’s. You can’t just toss it out.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Unless you’re a tosser…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster Posey
Irresistible Force
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
I disagree with the entire concept of the immovable object, not because it’s impossible, but rather because of spacial relativity.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
On a molecular level everything is moving!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
In an alternate universe, it moved.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If Lincecum and Cain want Molina
he stays this year as long as the Giants are contending. It is as simple as that. We may not like it (and I do not). But you don’t screw with your aces. If they truly (and I wonder about that sometimes) feel better throwing to him – he is going to be behind the dish when they pitch. Even if he hits .150 with an .151 OBP. And you know what – if that is TRULY the case, he SHOULD be behind the dish when they throw.
Next year it changes. But you don’t play with Tim and Matt’s head at this point of they season. They are the horses that this team must ride. And they get the catcher of their choice.
Why do people seem to think (I’m not just referring to you, I’ve heard it from a few posters) that Lincecum and Cain really want Molina around? I doubt they care who catches really. They’d say great things about Posey if he was the starting catcher.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Lincecum actually did speak out on Molina's behalf.
/goes to look for quote
/knows some snappy McCovenite will beat him to it
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve heard this before, but there has to be more than a “Bengie’s great, I love pitching to him” quote before I buy it. Of course Lincecum and Cain would say that when asked about resigning Molina. They’re good teammates. I don’t think it demonstrates that they would hate to pitch to Posey. In fact, I bet seeing Molina fail to block balls in the dirt just might get on their nerves.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s talked about giving half of one of his CY Youngs to Bengie. I don’t really buy the whole, “well, of course they say nice things about him. They have to.” That’s just speculation. Also, saying he does a good job is one thing. Saying he deserves credit for a portion of a Cy Young goes beyond jsut being nice/professional.
Maybe, but even a statement like that means little to me. Unless Lincecum has said that he would prefer pitching to Molina over Posey or has spoken to management, I’m just skeptical that quotable blurbs demonstrate Lincecum’s devotion to Molina.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, there’s this:
Catcher Buster Posey’s time in the major leagues will come, and Tim Lincecum will be excited to welcome him.
But don’t try telling Lincecum that Bengie Molina shouldn’t be back as the starting catcher. The two-time Cy Young Award winner credited Molina for keeping him relaxed and sharp in Monday’s season-opening victory.
“If people don’t understand what Bengie means to this team, I don’t think I could explain it to them,” Lincecum said. "Bengie is all heart. It’s a privilege for me. He makes everything easier to handle.
“Every time I gave up a hit, he told me where the pitch was. Having that communication is huge. It just gives you more confidence to know you’re on the same page. He’s relaxed, so I’m relaxed. There’s a feeling like, `We’re in this. We’re the battery. Let’s go.’ "
Lincecum shrugged off those who would criticize Molina’s low on-base percentage or his lack of speed.
“They’ll always look for the chink in your armor,” he said. “That’s just the way it is.”
And this:
Moving to a lectern placed in front of the pitcher’s mound, Lincecum seemed momentarily stuck for something to say. But he quickly warmed up, thanking first the fans and then his teammates — “Bengie [being] the biggest part of that,” Lincecum said, singling out catcher Bengie Molina.
I’m not trying to be a jerk, but you don’t have any evidence of what you’re arguing. It’s contrary to what Tim actually says. Unless you know him, I’m going to believe his quotes over your speculation.
You’re not being a jerk – you’re right, I don’t have evidence. My only disagreement is that I don’t put as much stock into those quotes because I think they’re run of the mill for someone. Lincecum saying positive things about Molina doesn’t mean much to me because athletes say meaningless things all the time. That’s what public relations personnel tell them to do.
I could be wrong, but I don’t really believe that Lincecum and Cain are what’s keeping the Giants from replacing Molina with Posey, or that they were the impetus to resign Molina. I think both pitchers would be happy to have Posey catch, and when Posey finally gets to, I think Lincecum and Cain will say glowing things about Posey.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
every quarterback/running back thanks the offensive line
I’m with GFS81
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyway, my internet can’t handle this thread anymore, so I’m going to leave it at that. Hopefully the Royals trade David DeJesus for Molina and this conversation becomes moot.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
FWIW
Prior to Molina being re-signed, Flem asked Cain what he thought of Buster being the starting catcher and Matt answered, “I’d have no problem with that.”
They could be Giants...but not really.
That’s something I didn’t think of. Hopefully Bork does let Posey catch Joey, but I think Molina is going to catch the other three.
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I remember when Buster caught Zito last week Kruk & Kuip were pretty much saying that Zito was calling his own game, cause he shook Buster off a few times and waited until Buster put down the sign Zito wanted so I don’t see it as being a big deal letting Buster catch him but LOL GIANTS for having 3 catchers, 4 if you count Pablo.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
I’m not sure what value Whiteside provides at this point. I have no faith in his bat, and would his defense be so much better than Posey that it’s worth keeping someone else out of the lineup (Huff playing first perhaps, with good ol’ Nate getting time in the outfield)?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He did take 3 walks last night.
Seriously, though, I think he’s out of options, and they like him enough to want to keep him around.
See above for my "seriously, though.’ That was supposed to indicate that the walks reference was tongue in cheek.
I actually like Whiteside a lot, but I recognize that it’s irrational.
He’s a very good defensive catcher and a fine second stringer.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s weird, though, because he doesn’t look as inept at the plate this year. I mean, it wouldn’t be hard to improve on last year (or his career numbers, even in the minors, for that matter), but in his tiny number of AB’s, he looks pretty good for a back up.
I like his rapport with the pitchers, too. That’s probably not a valuable skill, but I still like it.
Yeah, IMO Whiteside is the definition of a "serviceable backup"
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Johnny D is right on the mark
in fact he Whiteside is the classic back-up catcher – a guy with little or no bat that is very good defensively. I expect to see him on the team next year behind Posey.
Dude catches no hitters
I agree though that it makes no sense to be starting Whiteside at catcher and Posey at 1st. Though to be honest I’m not sure I’m any happier seeing Molina catching than Whiteside. Though having Whiteside as a third catcher probably makes at least as much sense as having Ishikawa on the roster.
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HERE'S the value - Travis Ishikawa!
Wait, that didn’t come out right.
Oh, I know.
Watch Bengie’s next grounder. It’ll be self explanatory.
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by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If the whole benefit of benching Bengie for Buster is getting Nate in the lineup instead of Bengie...
…then I can appreciate Whiteside in the lineup instead of Bengie almost as much
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Are you saying you view Nate and Whiteside as similar hitters? I would disagree with that sentiment.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s saying it in the sense that moving Bengie to the bench puts Buster at C, Huff at 1st Burrell in Left and Nate in Right instead of the whole Burrell in Left Huff in Right.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
So then it’s a question of Bengie versus Nate then? I would still make that swap in a second. There are a few players I would rather see playing than Bengie or Whiteside.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
won't somebody think of the children?
or the VORP? I think that’s a pretty big upgrade.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The value is the same value that Doug Mirabelli was to the Red Sox essentially catching one pitcher.
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Didn’t Varitek really actually struggle to catch the knuckleball though? I don’t think Bengie was having any more problems blocking Sanchez’s pitches than he does blocking Timmy or Matt’s. I’m for Whiteside simply because, longshot though it may be, it means there’s still a small chance a Molina deal pops up in the next 6 weeks and Bochy/Sabean feel there’s still enough veteran gamer savvy wearing shin-guards and masks on the roster to survive the rest of the season without him.
Thing A
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there’s still a small chance a Molina deal pops up in the next 6 weeks
I think this chance is too small to be worth considering. But I think there’s a decent chance that Molina gets injured at some point and we need both Whiteside and Posey to catch.
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With any luck he will miss time due to ass blisters caused by bench warming syndrome.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
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I doubt it considering Bochy’s man-love for Bengie. Though that could result in ass blisters for another reason.
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To be honest, couldn’t Holm replace Whiteside? I just see Whiteside as a back-up catcher, which means he should be easily replaceable.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Whiteside replaced Holm essentially, not sure why the club would go back on their idea.
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Why not if they’re interchangeable?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Thing is do the Giants see them as interchangeable? I’ve always thought that Holm could be a very good backup, he’s probably better defensively and I’ve always seen something in his hitting. I think that the Giants think Whiteside is better defensively and offensively.
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That’s a good point. The Giants do seem to think Whiteside is better.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
but based on what?
if they’re interchangeable, does it make THAT much of a difference if it’s holm instead of whiteside?
I don’t think so, but if the Giants do then Whiteside is here to stay. It’s the Giants, they make questionable decisions.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the concern is that Whiteside is out of options, so he might not clear waivers, in which case, when/if Bengie wanders off, the Giants will have to bring Holm up as a backup.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, so wouldn’t it be easier just to leave Whiteside where he is?
I think I might have misunderstood the original statement or something. Feel free to ignore me! :)
Ah, my point is that the Giants should DFA Whiteside so Posey can get as much time catching as possible, then, when/if Molina leaves the Giants can recall Holm (assuming someone snatches Whiteside off waivers, which seems possible) to be Posey’s backup.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Except they still appear not to be sold on his catching.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that just seems stupid.
While I typed that, Molina failed to block three balls in the dirt, allowing three runs and a car full of drunk monkeys to score.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
too complex
pay Bengie his $3M and send him away. No messing with Whiteside necessary.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Holm threw out base runners like...
Bengie Molina circa 2010
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/steals second and third on Holm in one pitch with no defensive errors and no rundowns.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
dont shatter my dreams
i have fun rooting for Varitek, Posada, Victor Martinez, and Barajas to go down with a season ending injury every time I turn on an ESPN baseball game.
Thing A
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The few games I’ve been watching Molina has problems blocking any pitches, and it seems he just tries to scoop every ball. I don’t know, maybe I’ve just watched games that are bad examples, but he’s looked horrible.
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He’s looked awful everytime I’ve seen him. Maybe we watch the same telecasts.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
AAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He looks like he’s not even trying and he certainly doesnt seem to display many catching fundamentals. I really dont get how he got on Bochy’s good side.
Thing A
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Exactly, like he’s not even trying ever.
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His defense has been consistently bad.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ole'
/ball to backstop after hitting square in facemask
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He is really lazy, it’s not that he doesn’t have the good catching fundamentals because, I don’t quite remember what game it was, but there was a runner on and the game was close and all throughout the game when the bases were empty Bengie just kind of scooped everything but when the time came for him to actually have to block pitches he actually did make some good stops. He’s too old and he does get very lazy behind the plate that he doesn’t try as hard all game long just when he feels it’s necessary.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
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The money lies in the RBIs
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I hate to ask...
but what’s the consensus on what the infield will look like when Renteria returns? Bochy has already said Uribe won’t sit so who does? Any chance Bochy actually sits Renteria?
I have to imagine Renteria won’t be playing every single day. It’s also possible we’ll see a lot more of Buster behind the plate.
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Yeah. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw an infield permutation of
1B Sandoval 2B Sanchez SS Renteria 3B Uribe C Posey a couple times a week
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This makes all the sense in the world
I hope it happens. I fear that it will not.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s weird that Sabean’s VERSATILITY plan worked out, but in none of the ways that he anticipated. Maybe he should get credit for that?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Hmm…baseball teams could always use a few breaks, but all the things Sabean thought he did right went wrong. I’m not giving him much credit.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
owlcroft’s whirling infield theory seems to be the most likely outcome. I’m hoping it doesn’t come at cost to young Buster.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Which was first known as the Goofus Corollary going into last year
In regards to how the outfield should have been utilized. We all saw how that turned out and I’m not going to be optimistic that Bochy will be smart enough to implement what is pretty obviously a good idea.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
That was also my theory
but I’m just a douchebag, so of course nobody paid attention
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by hokysmksbw on Jun 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Precisely.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL you
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
So close to perfection
Even though I’d prefer a team with Nate Schierholtz instead of Bengie Molina — both at the plate and in the field — it’s almost ungrateful to complain about that right now.
Well, the Giants version of perfection.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Your 2010 SF Giants
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Giants starters best ERA in baseball and
there’s a clutch hitting party and everybody
packing heat
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thats not how you write haiku
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I think it was one of those William Carlos Williams things.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
See how it looks like a gun, kinda?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
When it is unusually cold, I will sometimes pack heat.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY IS HERD?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why in your mind is not capped and it’s freaking me out.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Better pack something cause were going
post season this year!
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I probably won't be but I am pretty versatile so I rule nothing out
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Huff said it best
We got Sanchez healthy, called up Buster and then got Burrell. It’s like we made three trades and didn’t have to give up anything.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
It will be interesting to see what they do with Rent and Burriss.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Burriss - minors
Rent – I hope to god they either find a way to move Molina or just get rid of him outright.
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Burriss has to still have options, right?
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Of course. Maybe I’m imagining things, but the way the announcers and even Bochy has talked about him makes me wonder if he might see time in SF.
They could be Giants...but not really.
But why would anyone want him to?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
To be honest, I don’t know. But if I were to speculate, as a defensive upgrade over Rent or Uribe?
They could be Giants...but not really.
But he wasn’t even a good defensive second baseman before he had multiple foot injuries!
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VROOOOOOOOOM
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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Only 2 options would have been used, this year would be a third if he gets sent down.
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Renteria up then Downs will go down, if Burriss comes up I’m not sure who would go down. I suppose the candidates would be Posey, Ishikawa, and Whiteside.
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thats a bad thought
They seem pretty committed to Ishi as the LHH pinch hitter (since Nate is basically just a double switch guy now). They also seem extremely committed to this Sanchez/Whiteside thing. That leaves….. damn.
Thing A
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I think Burriss would be as useless as Ishikawa if Rent joins the team
At least Downs and Ishi give you a little pop as PHs
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Ishikawa at least gives you a defensive replacement for Huff at 1B (which he isn’t even being used as that anymore since Posey is at first. Burriss I think would be a good defensive replacement for SS, both Renteria and Uribe.
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he wasn't really used to replace Huff much anyway
and even if it makes sense (howie and others wax eloquently on nerdmath as to why it doesn’t), it doesn’t make sense on this team where they could use the spot for someone who could, say, pinch run once in a while or play shortstop. There’s not much of a choice for RH pinchhitting when Burrell is in the lineup, for instance.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Burriss
Because we all the Bocock experience.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, Brazil is about to fucking destroy North Korea.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
not if you live in Pyongyang
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SHUT UP WITH YOUR COMMIE SOCCER COMMENTS YOU TERRORIST FURRINER!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It seriously looks like Brazil is just messing with them right now.
“Oh, you have the ball. How nice for you. Lalala.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Lalala?
which position does he play?
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Analyst
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Homerist.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a dangerous game to play in soccer.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s clearly not working for them. Time to get serious.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, I thought Lalas was a...
…never mind.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
goal
Flood gates should open up. Now korea can’t play for the tie by playing everybody on defense.
hardly an angle. Nice shot
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jun 15, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no way the goalie can leave the post open like that. It should still be tied.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
And he only has himself to blame. It was a great shot because of how thin that angle had to be, but there’s really no excuse for the goalie letting it through.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Quite a goal. Until then I’d watched the first 12 minutes of the second half and Brazil was looking horrible.
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Go Roger Kieschnick! And son, please continue to break scoreboards on your way to San Francisco.
Did the announcer just say that the N. Korean fans are actually paid Chinese actors?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jun 15, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If they paid me, I’d do it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
in the annals of idiotic things idiotic announcers say: a couple years ago when Josh Hamilton was in the midst of shattering the unshatterable home run record in the home run derby:
said, “it’s not a good day to be an atheist.”
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
I’m not sure you realize just how many dumb things Rick Riley says… :)
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I think he went on a rant on how there were no black players in the homerun derby, despite being told that players like Ryan Howard declined their invitation, It was hilariously awkward television.
That guy is a dumbass
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I was surprised both that they played so well and that Brazil really didn’t make much of an effort offensively.
/dances around for a while.
/takes a 20-yard shot.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Burrell
It’s tempting to believe that the old Burrell is back, as he’s looked like a patient, powerful masher since arriving. But that’s why sample sizes are important — every crazy-hot player looks like vintage Ted Williams while they’re hot.
I said this elsewhere, but it’s almost time to throw out the “SSS” argument against Burrell out the window. For the entire 2010 season, of which 3/4 is based on his Tampa Bay numbers, he’s now a 103 OPS+ hitter. He’ll cool off, but at least he’s working off a solid foundation for a good overall season.
It’s truly remarkable what he’s done in just 10 games as a Giant.
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I agree.
I think he’ll be fine offensively…
Defensively however….
Well I just hope the ball isn’t hit to him much, and when it is, it’s right to him.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Jun 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The balls I've seen him field have looked ok
He’s not impressive by any stretch, but he doesn’t look Adam Dunn cringe-worthy. (Faint praise, I know.)
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I think he’ll catch the ones that he gets to but don’t expect him to get to many.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
I like what Bochy’s doing moving Huff to LF and putting Nate in RF in the 7th or 8th. It might help a tiny bit.
yeah
they can even get more defensey and bring in Rowand late too. Torres/Rowand/Nate is a pretty solid defensive outfield
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hooray! 12 million dollar late inning defensive leftfielder!
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
yea I know, I’m not saying we should be trotting him out there everyday or anything.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
AAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHH
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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...Dr. Vader will see you now.
It works every time!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How many times does he have to apologize for that?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Every time. :(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
good enough for me
these advanced fielding metrics are still bullshit.
give me superior hitting and field the expected level.
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Burrell looks around, edges closer to ONdres.
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"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In a 31 PA period Burrell is hitting .407/.452/ .741. Before that he was htiting .202/.292/.333 in 92 PA.
In a 32 PA period, a player hit .581/.594/.742. Before that, he had negligible PAs, but after that, this player hit .128/.176/.198 in his next 94 PAs.
Not that I’m saying that Pat Burrell will hit that the rest of the season, but I think we can take a lesson from Mike Benjamin and keep on looking. I’m not sure Burrell is a 100 OPS+ player at the end of the season.
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Well, the thing is, even if Burrell is a 105 OPS+ hitter, he’s still a bad player. With his defense, he needs to get close to his 2008 production to be OK.
I was promised lasagna.
So what you’re saying is that even if Burrell is a 105 OPS+ hitter, he’s still a bad player. With his defense, he needs to get close to his 2008 production to be OK?
by AndOnTheDrums... on Jun 15, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not believable – too many pixels.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Encouraging
I find it somewhat encouraging that Rowand has been getting a bit of time on the bench and Torres has been in center. That’s the best thing for the Giants, so the more it happens, the better.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Grant, you cynic
Congratulations for writing an entire “regression to the mean” post. Have a memorial for your younger self who dared hope when he saw unexpected positives.
Burrell is hitting .407/.452/.741 in his ten games as a Giant, which has helped the offense just a wee bit.
I thought maybe this was a joke, but no. Since the boxscores still list his BA around .250, I’m wondering if the MLB/Elias stats no longer separate NL from AL stats, which was one of the last remaining artificial differences.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
In Burrell (and Huff) (and Uribe) we’re seeing the enormous difference between the leagues in action. Along with SSS.
I dunno
If it were that reliable, the NL would just poach lower-level AL players.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
by achiappanza on Jun 15, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And it doesn’t account for the fact that 6 of Burrell’s 11 hits have been against AL opponents; as well as both of his homers.
It is still way too early to tell one way or the other about Burrell yet.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
And it doesn’t account for the fact that 6 of Burrell’s 11 hits have been against AL opponents; as well as both of his homers.
“I am not an idiot.”
WORLD SERIES TIRE – KICKIN’ DILIGENCE DOWN THE STRETCH, NERDS!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Regression toward.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
thank you
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Interchangeable terminology, NERDS!
http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/kb/regrmean.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean
If you want to take on true verbal crime, look into all these bozos using “Verticals” to mean “Industries” when that’s the one word they can’t use. (Vertical integration refers to diversifying with companies higher and lower in the chain of production.)
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
by achiappanza on Jun 15, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I also hate when people say ‘variance’ when they mean variation.
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The more I watch Burrell, the more I think it's the psychology of the game
You’ve got a guy who played his entire career with one team, then abruptly had his world turned upside down:
- New league
- New team,
- New ball parks
- New contract to live up to and fans to impress
- Adjustment to DH – other players have said it’s hard (that’s what they said)
He struggled in Tamba Bay. The best solution would have been for him to go back to Philly. Since that didn’t happen, perhaps coming “home” to S.F. was a the second best thing that could have happened to him. Not only does he return to the NL and no longer DH, but he has the comfort of knowing friends and family are in the stands and seems to like the situation and team he’s stepped into.
If you believe that players are more than just robots and other things can affect their performance, there’s plenty of reasons to think Burrell will be a good pick up beyond the AL’s supposed superiorty.
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If you believe that players are more than just robots and other things can affect their performance, there’s plenty of reasons to think Burrell will be a good pick up beyond the AL’s supposed superiorty.
I agree, but we’re talking about 31 at-bats. That’s close to meaningless.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine
Look at his 22 PAs in Fresno too, Mr. “I’m not impressed with your small sample size”.
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53 whole PA!
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes
But as I said in my earlier post, Burrell’s entire 2010 season (103 OPS+ in a 127 PAs) is notw looking more legit when taken as a whole.
Said another way, if he’d had this current hot streak before the Rays dumped him, they wouldn’t have dumped him.
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If we think of that as his current ability then that’s still not great, and probably not better than Schierholtz’s total package. If Burrell is only hitting around league average and playing Pat Burrell-like defense, then he probably should not be starting on a regular basis. Maybe as a platoon or only on days when the strikeout pitchers are pitching.
For the moment, they should continue to play him as long as he continues to hit well, but I think his last year and a half has not earned him a lot of rope.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
zounds!
127 PAs!
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Hey!
If people were trotting out his 2010 numbers as one of the reasons to NOT play Burrell, I’m allowed to trot them out when defending him.
People were saying “He’s sucked for two seasons.” Now I can say “He sucked for one season; 2009.”
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compromise
He’s sucked since 2008 ended.
Even his 2010 “OK” numbers are 100 pts of OPS below his career.
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And a 103 OPS+ with very bad defense is still not a very good player.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
It's not the type of performance that gets you out-righted
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I would just say that he peaked in 2005-07 (age 28-30) and has been trending downward since then, as players will at that age. Like Huff, he’s probably due for a bit of a dead-cat bounce. (OK, elderly cat.)
it sure as hell seems like
a lot of people here think because a player has been trending SLIGHTLY downward for a couple years, he’s suddenly due to completely fall off a cliff.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Both Burrell and Huff trended significantly downward last year.
They were really bad.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
“fell off a cliff” != “trended significantly downward”
You can’t be “trending downward” after one year. Career years happen in both directions.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Okay, let me rephrase that
They both fell off that cliff last year (and in Burrell’s case, he stayed at the bottom of the canyon for the first couple months of 2010). I don’t see why it’s unreasonable to expect them to keep that up.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
because
players who fall off cliffs like that tend not to stay in the valley. See: Durham, Ray; Huff, Aubrey.
I’ll put it this way, if there was a player who had 8 years of 100 OPS+ production, then had a season of 130 OPS+, would you say that player suddenly had a sharp jump in talent, or that he’s likely to regress?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
just looking at the Yankees roster
players who’ve had seasons with a 30+ point drop in wRC+ who bounced back;
Robinson Cano (‘07-’09)
Jorge Posada (‘07-’09)
Nick Swisher (‘07-’09) (WTF happened in ’08 o.0)
ARod, technically, a couple times, though his “valleys” were like 120-140 wRC+
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Most of these were BABIP flukes (including Huff, though he also seemed to lost his power). With Burrell, the BABIP was about where it “should” be, and his big problem was a sharp drop in home runs (which also caused a sharp drop in his BB%).
He could very well still bounce back, no doubt, but his down year does seem a lot more like an actual collapse than Swisher’s or Cano’s 2008, or Durham’s 2007.
I was promised lasagna.
well that's another thing
A sharp decline in HR/FB% could easily be luck related, it happens with pitchers all the time and is why we have xFIP.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I mean
Yes, it could be luck, but hitters have waaay more of an effect on their HR/FB than pitchers do. Imagine an xFIP equivalent for hitters – it would say that Juan Pierre is a better player than Pujols or something.
I was promised lasagna.
this is true
but a drop of like 40% from a career average all of a sudden probably has a lot more to do with luck (or injury) than age related decline
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
especially since
power is a very slowly declining skill
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Chipper Jones
Cliff dweller.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think we underestimate the degree to which a full season is a small sample size. Players can have really, really horrible seasons and then rebound (though usually at a subpeak level).
The trick is to get these guys for cheap, like Huff or Burrell or Uribe, rather than at full price, like DeRosa or Renteria.
Yeah, really, the problem with the Renteria signing wasn’t the player, it was the price. Signing a good player after what seems like fluky bad year is a good idea. Paying that player like that year never happened isn’t.
I was promised lasagna.
this
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I think for some reason people tend to think Renteria’s had a much better offensive career then he’s really had. He’s really had 2 exceptional and 3 good years. Atlanta traded him coming off a 124 OPS+ season that was buoyed by an extreme .375 BABIP (his career BABIP is .318) which looks to be a really canny bit of selling high to me.
His year in Detroit actually falls pretty squarely within his career bell curve, if slightly below average. It was by no means his worse year. In 12 consecutive years, he had OPS+ of 80, 88, 84, 92, 77, 113, 130, 88, 89, 104, 124, 83. Really that 83 doesn’t look particularly out of place in that career line to me.
Of course, being a SS (and a very good one at one point), makes a career 94 OPS+ quite valuable, I fully understand. But I think the idea that his year in Detroit was an outlier is based on a different career then the one he’s actually had. It was the two years in St. Louis and Atlanta that really seem to be the outliers to me.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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He's had a weird career
He was very good in the two years before his bad 2008, but very meh in the the two years before that, and very very good in the two years before that.
I was promised lasagna.
Bowker
I’m happy with the offensive resurgence recently (who knew that decent to good hitters would make for a decent offense?).
I am, however, saddened by the fact that there is absolutely no room for Bowker on this team. I don’t see much room for him next year either.
I know that many people are either meh or worse on Bowker, but I see a lot of potential. I haven’t gotten behind many young Giants as much as I’ve gotten behind Bowker. There’s only been two others that I have gotten behind as much.
Jonathan Sanchez and Brian Wilson. (Lincecum and Cain were always no-brainers so they didn’t need my support).
I would like to see Bowker get his chance to show that he can deliver on the goods like Sanchez and Wilson did. Unfortunately, he’s one of the odd men out.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I have been really baffled by him. Does being in the majors just get in his head? He pastes minor-league pitching.
I think there is a bit of that going on
But to whatever extent the majors is getting into his head is being compounded by the super short leash he has gotten, his first call up notwithstanding.
I think that one problem this year, is that it was harder for him to draw walks even though he had the new patient approach. Major league pitchers were challenging him more than minor league ones. I think that messed with his new approach somewhat.
I really think that with extended playing time, he figures it out. But, like I said, there’s no chance of that, really.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I don't disagree
But it could also be that he’s just not good enough to hit big-league pitching.
Sabes got mocked to hell for his comments, but there’s a lot more really good pitchers in the big leagues.
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The Linden Hop
It’s nice to have a little depth and rotational versatility.
Remember the panic when Omar went down?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
But it could also be that he’s just not good enough to hit big-league pitching
It could be. I really don’t think so, though. Had he ever started to get it going the pitcher would have started to pitch him more carefully and he would have gotten more walks.
Many people were talking about how bad he looked at the plate. I saw a guy who actually had a pretty solid approach.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I saw a guy that looked overmatched quite a bit
I’m no scount, but it looked to me like he was taking a tick too long identifying the pitch and was unable to catch up to fastballs
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In April Borky was using Bowker the way he's using Burrell now.
Would not let him the guy finish a game. 3 AB and he’s replaced for defense.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
He doesn’t really have that good a minor league career. The only great year is 2009, when he was old and back in AAA after spending a year in the majors. Before that, even in his breakout 2008 he had a poor K/BB.
I was promised lasagna.
You're being a bit misleading when you say "back" in AAA
He had played all of 25 games in AAA (106 PAs) prior to 2009.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Speaking of offense
Time to go make sure the guy whose uninsured vehicle totaled our car gives us our money.
I’d really hate to have to go to court.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Good luck!
However, I would be really surprised if this gets settled without some type of legal action.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm hopeful, actually
The guy should want to settle this extra-legally. He indicated to the police that he had insurance (and they never checked). He doesn’t want me going to the police with that information.
There are other reasons why I think he will cooperate, but that is the biggest.
Anyway, gotta go. Thanks for the good luck.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
There are other reasons why I think he will cooperate,
Did you give him the “Here’s two more reasons you should cooperate” and flex your biceps?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
The guy is in his later fifties/early sixties
So that could be an actual legitimate reason, if I were a violent person. But I’m not. :p
Anyway, he paid to get our car out of the yard it was being held in and then used his AAA to get it towed to our preferred garage to get it evaluated. So far he’s been true to his word.
And, like I said, he wants to get this settled out of court. It won’t be good for him if it goes to court. Plus, he lives in a really nice house and paid the 777 dollar yard bill with cash, so I’m cautiously optimistic.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
he have a jersey accent?
spend a lot of time talking about his family?
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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He's into real estate, not the mafia
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
yeah
the mafia has never been involved in real estate…
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Eh, whatever
As long as I get my money.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Man do I hate Illinois Nazis.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
subject line
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
What the…
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That can’t be legit.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
oh my lord
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OT - Might be the end for Larry
Atlanta Braves third baseman Chipper Jones(notes) tells The Associated Press that he’s planning to meet with team officials to discuss his future.
They could be Giants...but not really.
NERD TALK
Mine too, though his defense drags down his WAR.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
3Bs that hit like that are kind of once-in-a-generation thing.
Best hitting 3B since Schmidt, unless I’m forgetting someone.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
A-Rod, if you count him as a 3B rather than a SS.
by non sequitur on Jun 15, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't
3,000 more innings at SS and he’s only at 3rd to appease Jeter.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
That has got to go down as one of the all time stupidest moves in baseball.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeter fields a five hopper in the hole, spins around four times before jumping in the air and throwing a five hopper to first. Crowd cheers.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
YANKEES WIN WORLD SERIES
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know if his peak was better than Brett’s or Boggs’s, but he is definitely an easy HOFer in my book. Just a great hitter in every single way, and for a very long time.
And one of the greatest plate approaches of his generation. Not quite Bonds level, but not that far from it. Hell, they guy is 38, talking about retirement, hitting .228 without any power – and is leading the majors in BB%!
I was promised lasagna.
If that was what the AP was initially discussing with "LAAA - REEEE!" then yeah.
Oh those crazy Mets fans. Ya gotta love ’em.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry should make 2 more starts.
7992 career AB.
Even up your numbers, Slut!
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
It annoys me when that happens, too. Like when Andres Galaragga ended up with 399 HR.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
All hail Roberto Clemente.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Senselessly dying in a firey plane crash while delivering aid packages to an earthquake-ravaged country annoys me more than uneven numbers, though. I’m weird like that.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I was just saying, 3,000 hits yo.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
SO YOU WERE NOT SAYING
Seriously though, Reading Wikipedia, I read that Clemente was elected into the Hall of Fame in a special election right after his death. His vote total: 92%
Meaning a full 8% of baseball writers were against enshrining a man with 3000 hits, four batting titles, and arguably the best RF defense of all time, who also recently died doing incredibly selfless deeds.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
BUT I WAS SAYING!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
And cheesburgers are the corner stone of any nutritious breakfast!
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
CORNERSTONE
IT IS ONE WORD.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with the Internets, Howie...
…is that there’s always someone new coming through the door that doesn’t know IT IS ONE WORD. Etc.
Best of luck on your crusade!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I have one crusade these days: to point out when two words should be one word and when one word should be two words. I never expected it to keep me this busy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing like devoting yourself to a pointless cause.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It keeps me busy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
If it keeps you busy, then it isn’t really point less.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Nothing like devoting yourself to apointlesshopeless cause.
Better.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It keeps me busy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang it
You took my joke.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Yours is higher.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right
He took my joke!
…wait, that’s the same thing I already said.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
YOURS IS HIGHER
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So, maybe, um, I took his joke?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
YOURS IS HIGHER!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
et cetera is two words
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
NO ONE CAN HAVE A 100% VOTE! ITS THE LAW!
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
They might have been against the whole "special election" thing
the normal waiting period has its merits. Of course there was no danger of Clemente un-retiring, but the reflection and knee-jerk parts of the rule make sense.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Or Mark Gardner retiring with 99 wins
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing about hover technology
Is it doesn’t work on water unless you have an engine.
Biff taught me this.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
And what happened then? Well…in McCoven they say,
That Grant’s small optimism grew three sizes that day!
YOU FOUND ME GRANT!
/waits for some of the pitchers to regress
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
by ResDog on Jun 15, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL GRANT'S PUNY OPTIMISM!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, that explains the pee in there.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
how do you explain the floating snickers ba…wait a minute. that’s no snickers.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Is it a Mars bar?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Kudos
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Howie prefers nuts
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes, when I feel like it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet, you never call
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
howie, look up,
there are two words that should be combined into one. just helping you fight the good crusade fight.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Prefersnuts?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
waits for some of the pitchers toward regress.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Are the Giants paying Burrell the league minimum?
by Viva Jon Miller on Jun 15, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
Yep, Tampa pays the rest. I like league minimum gambles, but I worry that if Burrell really is done and tanks, the Giants will stick with him regardless. But color me optimistic about him at this point.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabes is already discussing a 2 yr extension with him
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Tom Gooden was my favorite
The Dodgers were paying him while he was helping us beat them in 2002
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Ah, you meant goodwin
Gooden was making me think of Dwight. I couldn’t for the life of me remember when Dwight Gooden pitched for us.
And, of course, he never did.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Burrell
is really just a bochy-friendly reason to get Rowand out of the lineup every day. I mean you couldn’t bench the dude for Nate Churros, for god’s sake… but Pat Burrell is (aka “was once”) a legitimate major league hitter!
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
You leave Nate's churro out of this!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
it's just so much easier to type
and when you yell “Schierholtz” at the park, it pretty much sounds like “Churros”
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Also, Nate has a certain cinnamony goodness.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
TB picks up the rest.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
They should be, but somehow I doubt they are.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Was he with anyone resembling the 2nd President of the United States?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
They always are when Howie is involved.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie needs to do a little pruning around the beanstalk
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
manscaping
there’s not always enough privacy on grandma’s couch.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Thank you.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid unrealistic Rod Serling disguise.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It works better if you actually disguise yourselft as Rod Serling. Holding Rod Serling up in front of you when you move around is cartoonish and will get you noticed right away.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
Holding Rod Serling up in front of you when you move around is cartoonish and will get you noticed right away.
I doubt holding Rod Serling in front of you would be a very good disguise anyway. He is mostly bones by now.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Philosophers can waste hours debating that question, right after they ring you up at Borders*.
This made me laugh.
One warning: if Burrell suddenly goes 4-for-93, it will take a crowbar to remove him from the starting lineup now.
This is my worry. I like how he’s been hitting so far, but if he reverts back to 2009 Burrell, we could have the worst outfielder in baseball starting almost every day.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Aaron Rowand?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, the two worst outfielders in baseball.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Well, it won't come as such a contrasting shock.
Besides, Rowand may have forgotten how to suck by then.
He did take a little time to forget how to hit.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
But if he’s forgotten how to hit and how to suck, what does he do then?
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
It feels like the first time. Like it never did before. Open up the door. Won’t you open up the door? Yeah. Feels like the first time.
LOL. Nice Foreigner reference, Grant.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Jun 15, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions
I know I can't help myself, you're all that my eyes can see
“Colld…aas…IIIIIICE….”
“…you KNOW that you are…”
“…CO – o – old…A – aa – aaas…IIIIICE…”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
He must need eye surgery or something
I mean, seriously.
GIANT EAGLE
my best friends dad is president of the Canton regional stores
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Iggle
that’s how they say it in Pittsburgh
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
beggels and wooder
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
The pics should be framed and on the wall in Bochy's office
If Rowand ever storms in demanding more playing time, Bochy, without even lifting his nose from whatever book he’s reading, can just point to the pictures.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
what actually kind of disturbs me about your comment
is that without people might not have caught the reference…
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Nah. I laughed at Grant's. Took me a second, though.
Of course, I have four Foreigner albums…
/realizes he actually has four copies of Double Vision
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
it's OK
not even the members of Foreigner can tell the albums apart
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
But they’re gonna stick around till they can’t see straight
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
or just "4".
Stick ’em in your Juke Box, Hero.
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I don’t think that would be possible.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff and Burrell in the same outfield ...
will at some point cost some runs. Right now it is an easy call with their offense outweighing any defensive shortfalls. But Burrell in particular looks to have very limited range (and I’m not even a scout), so there will be many balls that drop. Good fielding really isn’t just catching balls you’re supposed to catch (as Urban might have KNBR listeners believing). Range is a big part of it. But hey, let’s enjoy the offense!
No doubt
but as said above, bochy can negate a fair amount of their defensive shortcomings with defensive switches in the later innings.
Get a lead with Burrell and Huff, protect the lead (and shaky bullpen) with Nate and Rowand
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I wouldn’t say the bullpen’s been shaky as much as I would say Guillermo Mota’s been shaky. The last two 8th inning almost-meltdowns we’ve had were brought on by Mota. In both scenarios, Bochy would have been better off going to Casilla to start the inning.
Croix De Candlestick: You'll be a better person for reading
ONdres catches (like everything else) some movement to his right.
It is Burrell, edging closer.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Water Buffalos!!
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres in CF really helps
He compensates for a lot.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
To be fair to Aaron
He actually has looked pretty good on defense this year too.
But Andres is something else.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Did anyone see Sportscenter when Torres made a nice catch (I think playing left) to finish a Brian Wilson save last week? Torres was their #1 play and the commentator made some asinine comment like, “That’s not that good a catch” or “He didn’t really have to jump”, ignoring the long run Torres made to get to a ball many players would have to play for a double?
I think it was a Reds game, but my memory apparently fails me today.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s one of the softest goals you’ll ever see at this level.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
It was still pretty cool.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Oh yeah. The shot itself was great.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That one was a very good goal. Nothing the goalie could have done on that one.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, great pass by Robinho
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey! I worked at Borders! I resemble that remark…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
I only care if Nintendo is announcing something that isn’t lame.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently a new GoldenEye.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It would seem.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The new Zelda sounds cool. Too bad I don’t have a wii D:
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
2
on Christina Hendricks
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
We have been sent back in time to 1981
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Nintendo's showcase was this morning
Right now it’s SONY, and they just showed the first clips of Portal 2
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Escher's later work better.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He looked really nervous out there
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes no sense to me why 3 of the biggest showcases would be the day before, why not just make it an official day?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
sony and nintendo were today, xbox360 was yesterday. unless i misinterpreted your question.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
When is Apple gonna do us a favor and make a console?
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
About three hours before I start laughing at the Apple Fanboys lining up at the Apple store to wait two weeks for a over priced product.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It will be THE BEST THING EVAR!!!!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yesterday was Microsoft, Ubisoft and EA, but today is the first ‘official’ day of E3. Just found that kind of odd.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't hear the word 'exclusively'
So I’m guessing it will be.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
still playing Triple Play ’97. have they managed to improve video game graphics much?
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
One time, I pitched a perfect game with Allen Watson in Triple Play ’97.
I was so proud.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I almost went to this
And then I realized it costs $400.
A bargain considering the cost of, say, Christina Hendricks.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re showing the best errors by first baseman in the history of the game.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I bought a 360 two weeks ago and NOW they come out with the slim! Fuck me.
BTW I love the 360, especially Forza III
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s a little quieter and has a dedicated Kinect port. Don’t beat your self up. the old one is just fine
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Yeah it's just in a shiny new case with built in wi-fi and the kinect
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry
When you get the RRoD you can upgrade!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank God!
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This post has too much optimism
McCovey you’re looooosssinggg meeee!
Another plus
What I enjoy about this recent offensive spurt is, if it continues for another month, Sabean could be less inclined to deal away prospects for marginal upgrades. There really is no weak link to plug in with another gritty veteran.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
what's a "rabbi hole?"
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Only members of the Kabbalah wing of Scientology know.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I can tell you approximately how far down it goes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, not yet. I expect a tweet about it between 3-4, though.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Praying for Posey catching.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
that would be pretty ideal since Joey's pitching
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
The cat decided that 430 was just a peachy time to wake us up this morning. As if 530 isn’t bad enough. I’m exhausted!
It just wanted to watch the Kiwi/Slovakia match.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
but you could, i suspect: grap a replacement socket and bulb, insert bulb, head to checkout, pay for items…presto bulb bought in socket at the store
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Your user name an understatement.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Plenty of alcohol and a willingness to experiment.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
stoner cat's watch
is 10 minutes fast
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One thing about Burrell
We don’t have to worry about Downs being the DH again.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Huff? Uribe? Posey? Panda?
Burrell as DH has significant sample size working against it.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
fuck that
i will kick a kitten if this happens
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
It’ll be interesting to see who out of this group gets re-signed. It’s too early to tell for Burrell, if it’ll be worth re-signing him, but at this point, it seems like Uribe and Huff are pretty likely to be, and Torres will be arbitration-eligible. But based on that, and including a raise to Jonathan Sanchez (and looking ahead to 2012, where we’ll have to sign Lincecum and Cain to new deals, along with Sandoval reaching arbitration, if he’s not super-two after this year), we’re going to be pretty tied down by the Rowand and Zito contracts. We may be forced to play a minor leaguer like Bowker or Schierholtz in 2011 in the outfield, and in 2012, after raises are factored in, Sabes might even be forced in playing a minor leaguer at 2b!
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 15, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
GUFFAW GUFFAW
i am in love with andres torres
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
HUZZAH!!!!
he on ur pokemonz now?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
has been for some time
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Andres Torres or Adam Jones... HMMMMM
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Orioles
Even I’m happy that Atkins isn’t in this lineup.
Patterson
Tejada
Markakis
Wigginton
Scott
Jones
Wieters
Izturis
Arrieta
They could be Giants...but not really.
To bad julio lugo isn’t playing.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Sounds molina esque
Except lugo runs 25x faster, no hyperbole there.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
To be fair, Bengie (.337 SLG, .256 AVG) has at least hit for extra bases. Lugo has 21 hits in 105 ABs, all singles.
They could be Giants...but not really.
wow
I dunno if you saw last night, but he got a meatball right down the middle when he pinch hit and he crushed it off the sweet spot of the bat… and flied out to medium left center LOL. Sweet pop bro, even juan pierre is shaking his head.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Dear Sabes
See if Dayton Moore will take Rowand and a bullpen arm for David DeJesus.
That would be brilliant
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Jun 15, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha! Even Moore isn’t dumb enough for that. Steve Phillips might be if he were still a GM.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
PADRES LOL
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
“I read this thing about touching a shark’s nose…hey, it works!”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
One more thought on Burrell
Damn if that’s not a good looking swing!
I said it the other day; his swing looks to me like a right-handed version of Will Clark’s.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Let’s not go crazy, here.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Jun 15, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
would that make
Eugenio Velez a switching hitting Ruben Rivera that’s skull fucking Ted Williams’ frozen corpse?
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skull fucking
implies head.
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Question I should know about my adopted son
What kind of contract is he on? Do we have more years of team control, or could we lose him after this year?
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
it seems like they just renewed his contract from last year, so I guess he must be like a pre-arb player
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Cots is impossible to tell on pre-arb players
since they just list every year as a 1 year contract, but don’t tell you how long he’s under team control
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Adding on
ML service: 2.115
So he should be in arbitration after this year, and we should have him for three more years, through 2013.
I think.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
This would be cool.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
So I guess being a minor league free agent doesn’t affect major league service time?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So he's not going to be a FA until he's like 36?
sucks for him
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
It's kind of weird
The 6 years of team control are there to make sure teams can benefit from the players they developed, rather than just see them all go to the rich teams. But if the team decides that it doesn’t want the player, shouldn’t he just be a normal free agent? Why should the next team that signs him also get control of him?
I was promised lasagna.
I guess theoretically
The new team has to invest money and time developing the player and should have some rights to benefit from it if he works out.
If a guy gets cut loose, goes straight to the major leagues (or gets there almost immediately), fairness would dictate that he should be a FA after the season.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
is torres really 32?
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 15, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions
his age yes
But as far as the miles on his legs and body are concerned, he’s basicially 25.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
he didn’t start playing baseball until college
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Jun 15, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not know that. Or I had forgotten. I’m not sure that means he has more life in his legs/body though.
He was a track dude. He did a pretty good interview, man I wish I could remember where, I think on KNBR, where he talked about running track and not really being all that into baseball till he was 18?
I think that's right
Haft also had an article on him:
It’s essential to remember that Torres, 32, didn’t begin playing baseball with any semblance of purpose until he entered Miami-Dade Community College, where a Yankees scout gave him a business card and seeded his Major League dreams.
Also, maybe we should thank Willie McCovey for telling him to hold his bat more upright during ST.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I was using basketball terms
What I meant is it’s not like he’s been playing non stop since he was 18, for the better part of the last 12 years he’s been sitting on the bench and getting inconsistent playing time in various minor league stops. When I say “miles” I refer to someone like kevin garnett or kobe bryant. They came right out of high school into the nba at age 18, and since then have been playing non stop heavy minutes and putting a ton of wear and tear on their bodies. Hence they are both 32, yet are surgicially repaired to the max and are extremely pyschicially limited when it comes to playing heavy minutes and will continue to be injury prone and ineffective with lots of use.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Torres' legs are like Howie's penis
Staying young and fresh from lack of use
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
No, I got a balm for that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah. You have to apply the balm with something.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So of course aging doesn’t apply to him.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That didn’t end up reading the way I thought it would. Go ahead and ignore it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If you were older, I would have the perfect comeback to that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Puerto Rican players usually have fake age issues.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
su incorrecto
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 15, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So basically he's 40 then?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking the question was more along the lines of “Has he really been around that long?” Maybe I’m wrong but that’s just how I read it.
yea thats what i was thinking
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 15, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems so odd that he would magically become a good player at 32. But I guess it happens every once in awhile.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
My grounds for upgrading from skeptical to cautiously optimistic are:
1 – his having started late
2 – having had his swing overhauled away from the slappy style he apparently was taught in the Detroit and Chicago farm systems.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Also becoming a fairly selective and patient hitter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I should have wrote ‘having his hitting style overhauled’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If any Giants have a shot
It will be from the manager/player voting, not the fan voting.
My Son, the best position player on the damn team.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Current Pass Recipients: Posey, Whiteside, Huff, Sanchez, Torres, Uribe
Short answer: No
Long answer: No
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
Bullet points
Ask me about my blog.
That’s a real question, btw, not some kind of jerk-snark. I was pretty sure I saw your screen name playing it on PSN the other day. If so, let’s play! I’ve yet to try out the multiplayer mode.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
I do have it. It’s great!
We should definitely play a game sometime, maybe this weekend?
Ask me about my blog.
Yep! Let me know when you’re free.
You should know, however, that I’m pretty awful at it. I’m like a virtual Velez.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
It is pretty remarkable how many Giants this year are playing like they could have a spot on the All-Star team
Matt Cain
Aubrey Huff
Juan Uribe
Brian Wilson
Barry Zito
Jonathan Sanchez
Andres Torres
Lincecum isnt pitching otherwordly like we are used to, but his stats are as good as the players most likely to be picked from other teams (3.12 era, 96 Ks, 6-2 WL)
Personally if it were up to me, Id take Cain, and Uribe(because of position)
Too bad our manager isnt constructing the roster otherwise all of them would be on there (Im looking at you Charlie Manuel)
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
all merit NL All starts
(2009 counts too)
C Brian McCann
1B Pujols / Votto / Adrian Gonzales
2B Utley / Uggla
SS Hanley Ramierez / Tulowitzki
3B Zimmerman / Wright / Sandoval (2009! plus he can back up McCann)
OF Braun / Ethier / Werth / Torres / McCutchen / Rasmus? / Heyward?
Pitchers (not really ordered)
Halliday
Jimenez
Lincecum
Carpenter
Wainwright
Haren
Kershaw
Josh Johnson
BWilson (surprised)
Broxton
Heath Bell
Luke Gregorson
That’s 30. I think I even got all the NL teams in there.
Torres won’t make the cut unless someone is drinkin’ the UZR kool-aid (and it’s mighty tasty). Sandoval is a long shot as well.
Who is the obvious backup NL catcher? Russell Martin (can suck it!) or Yadier Molina I guess.
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OK, let's start all those guys and Shane Victorino
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Everyone's talking about the Giants' offense
hankschulman Swear to God, not making this up. Two Gs among top 10 in NL OBP: 5. Andres Torres (.401) 10. Aubrey Huff (.393).
Also, wasn’t Schulman the guy that wrote the anti-stat screed over the offseason? I believe he included OBP in his rant.
This newfangled OBP!
Ask me about my blog.
OBP is over-rated we need rowands power and discipline in the lead off spot
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I found the quote. Not exactly how I remembered it, but still dopey.
Well of course! Freddy did walk 36 times in 336 plate appearances last year, bolstering his on-base percentage. Strikeouts? Oh yeah: 84 of them, probably half of them looking. Let me let you digest this.
Ask me about my blog.
LOL IDIOT
/defends sabean, bochy, molina, rowand, and velez.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yes.
Entitled:
Memo to people who keep saying Fred Lewis should start in left field because of his high OBP: ENOUGH!!!!
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?blogid=22&entry_id=60414#ixzz0qxmJedjQ
Though, in fairness, it wasn’t really anti-OBP as a useful stat. It basically said that a Sports Illustrated article that said Lewis should start over Nate in RF was wrong. It was more that he believed (rightly or wrongly) that Fred’s OPB numbers were not enough to outweigh the other problems he saw with Fred.
The: “KNOW HOW I KNOW? FREDDY TOLD ME.” line comes off so douchey.
I just like that he calls it an anti-sabr screed
This is going to be an anti-Sabermetrics screed, specifically the notion that Lewis needs to be the Giants’ everyday left fielder because his .348 on-base percentage last year was 90 points higher than his .258 batting average. In other words, Lewis can take a walk.
While mainly focusing on OBP — hasn’t OBP been on the back of baseball cards for 25 years now?
Ask me about my blog.
Um, ok
hankschulman
Never said OBP’s meaningless. It is less impt for 4-5 hitters. RT @kaplanae: OBP was meaningless last year for Bengie? Now it’s important?
They could be Giants...but not really.
How else are they going to have great at bats?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
still stupid
Schulman doesn’t understand
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
OT: HMMM, BEST place to buy giants hat, i usually use either hat club or LIds, that pretty much it?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
lids for sure
they have a frequent buyer card thingy too
guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy
If they would just come out with a fitted, lower profile, non 59-50 hat.
Kyle Stratford : Brian Sabean :: Toby Flenderson : Michael Scott
what i'm into now is the curved giants hat
but the year on the back
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
new era’s pretty nice too
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 15, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
true that, i was in New York City
just about a year ago, walked around downtown to find the new era store, couldn’t find it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
got my first two at lids
Great place to get them, but I bought a new one at the dugout store after the home game renteria slammed the rockies for a epic sweep.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
My current cap I picked up last year at the dugout store during FanFest when they had most of the hats for half price.
i'm here in the Bay Area... but yea, fan fest woulda been fun
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I knew he was back. Thus, my suggesting the dugout store.
Have you been to many (any?) games yet, Pika?
Not yet
i mean, really i don’t have many friends that like the giants for that matter. But it’s more because of price, i’ll make it out to hopefully at least 5 or 6 games this summer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
HENCE WHY I WANT TO!!!!
but yea, one of my buddies should be here sometime this week, my dad is an interesting dude to take
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I think you said you wouldn’t do this, but it’s really not that bad to go by yourself. When I worked over there, I used to do it all the time.
Wouldn't be a bad idea....
i live in the east bay, that’s the only deal. But one of my friends is definitely down to go, and we’ll just buy bleacher seats or something cheap
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
U go by yourself? I’m assuming people tend to make friends easily at ball games
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I usually have a radio/headphones with me, but I’d say most games…by the 3rd or 4th inning you start talking to the people around you. Depends where you sit too I would think. I don’t sit in the bleachers when I’m by myself, I usually go for expensive Field Club seats on StubHub that go for pretty cheap [face value or lower] because they are single seats…who wants those?!?!
me!!!
Good point
that’s something i notice about going to any ball game at any park, usually make some friends and talk some shit, it’s alot of fun
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It works out pretty well. Mr. Merope will drop me off / pick me up at the station. Take a book, an mp3 player and sit back and chill. The food on the train is decent, not ridiculously expensive, they also serve alkyhol. It’s about a 2 hour ride.
Sometimes you get lucky and the driver [bus bridge from Emeryville to SF] is a Giants fan and he’ll drop you right at the stadium. Buses back to Emeryville leave from the CalTrain station afterwards.
probably should do that, but i do have the discount card from lids
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
K, well i'm gonna go with a curved hat
slightly torn, with SF in orange and black, with a white back in front, a black brim, and dark gray in the back with “giants” written on the back too, 20 bucks
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Pics or it didn’t happen.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That looks like the ones the guys out in the free area wear.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Like it’s been sleeping in doorways.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF.
I’ve never seen a Rally Cap with a right – side – out logo that had been dragged behind a car for three days before…guess I’ll never say that again without lying.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I have that exact hat
except it’s sun bleached as hell. I love it.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
YEA DAWG!!!
now i can’t wait to get it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
They all say San Francicso
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
RIP Cooperstown Ball Cap
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Lineup
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff RF
Uribe SS
Burrell LF
Posey 1B
Sandoval 3B
Molina C
Martinez RHP
They could be Giants...but not really.
i would have had posey catching since he caught him in the minors
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
This
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have had posey catching cause he's the best catcher on the roster
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
See,
this would be true, however, he’s not savvy enough or gritty enough
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He already is, that's why he is at 1B
Nothing more to learn at catcher.
SCIENCE!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
WHY THE FUCK IS MOLINA CATCHING?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
He’s coming out of his slump. Or so Krukow tells me.
He hit a few balls hard to RF against the A’s = OUT OF SLUMP HERE WE GO YEAHHHHHH
Ask me about my blog.
i should do this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
actually that’s unfair because i still like kruk a good portion of the time. like when he’s messing around with the other three guys and not being too serious.
but he’s unbearable when he turns on the homer switch. or the ‘MATT CAIN COULD THROW 180 PITCHES TONIGHT’ switch.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s a pity, because I think he really used to be pretty insightful about pitching at times. But now it’s just constant bs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m going to make this a mini-Kruk-annoyances sub thread…
Stuff Kruk says about every pitcher
- He can cut/sink the ball
- Has 3/4 quality pitches
It’s like the generic template for every pitcher, ever.
Ask me about my blog.
You forgot the biggest one
“He can hit a little!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
let out some shaft
both cheeks
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
He also has this thing he does during the post-game show where, if he thinks something really important to the Giants season has just happened, he’ll talk in this lower, kind of affected voice about how IMPORTANT what we just saw was. Which is cool some of the time, but it seems like he does it after half the Giants wins.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You know what? It was really important tonight that Jonathan Sanchez laid down that sacrifice but in the 2nd inning when the team was down by 7 runs. That’s the kind of thing an offense can build off of and take into the next series.
Ask me about my blog.
Oh god I can totally imagine this in Kruk’s voice
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And he got it down on the. first. pitch.
I can’t tell you how important that it to the momentum of an inning.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Yep, imagining this one in Kruk’s voice too.
I think we all watch too much Giants baseball. :\
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Or watch some YES network.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching a pitcher fuck around with foul bunts is annoying as hell.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad does the same thing. In fact, both my parents do it. It’s really irritating.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
lol your dad
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
About that
You may want to have your dad checked out.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Ever had a decade long argument?
I’m so over that.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
My fave:
“When he’s right, he will throw a lot of strikes”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
throws a fastball with heavy sink
/porcelain
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
His horselaugh makes me want to hate him when he does it. And that makes me sad.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
HAS TO FIND ARM SLOT
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I never realized Kruk was so literary.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I like how he continues to praise the approach to RF
ignoring the fact that it is his bat speed and recognition that have just slowed causing him to take emergency hacks that send them over there.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
My thoughts exactly. As Pika pointed out, Posey is the one with the experience catching Martinez.
"By the time I turned twelve, the Dodgers made me vomit." - Joey Margolis, Last Days of Summer
by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I actualy think
Posey playing such a purty 1B is helping Bochy with his “decision making skillz”.
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Yeah! When Bengie catches him he gets his face bashed in
Bochy, are you trying to kill this kid?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
don't worry
he won’t actually catch many
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Molina’s catching. /facepalm
At least there’s no Scott.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Only his pride.
Because he did not break any bones.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Molina??
Really??
Booooooooooooo!!!!!
Not that I HATE Molina, I don’t, but kripes Posey should get at least 1 damn start a week at catcher and uh…the ORIOLES? It’s the fucking ORIOLES!!!!
All I can come up with:
- Bochy is afriad of the giant hissyfitfest Molina will throw if he sits two days in a row
- Bochy doesn’t like the idea of having two kids out there together and was moved by Bengie’s stirring rendition of George Michael’s “Father Figure” at the karoake bar last night
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Why is molina catching?
We’d be better off getting bentio santiago out of retirement, at least he’d provide a defensive presence along with a functional bat.
god you’re fucking stupid bochy, stop favoring this fat peice of shit thats ruining our jesus prospect.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Pat the Cemented in LFer.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
LOLINA 8TH
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t get the Molina thing. I really want to understand. Is it just a hurt feelings deal? Don’t want to put Huff at first because it forces the issue with Rowand?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Don’t want to put Huff at first because it forces the issue with Rowand?
This is quite possibly it. What’s Bochy going to do in that situation? Play Nate over Rowand? Doubt it. He can convince himself it’s okay to play Burrell over Rowand, but not Nate (who isn’t a savvy veteran).
Mmm…potatoes. I want oven fries.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm actually excited for Joe
he’s that guy you just root for and want him to do well especially after what happened last year. And when he came back last year he wasn’t THAT bad
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
At home? i dunno
but yea, i kinda think so as well… i still like the signing of Wellemeyer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Fact:
Wellemeyer has given up 12 HRs in 58.2 IP.
The next closest SP is Zito, with 6 in 87.2 IP.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m sitting here at work and he just walked my dog
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I’m sitting in my room, and he just walked me to the kitchen.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yes.
4.1.10. Look it up.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
In a way.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Supertodd
twice the production in half the innings! STUD
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 15, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
why many are interested in understanding if he can do well tonight
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
To bad tub of whale fat will be using his "veteran game calling presence"
/calls for 0-2 fastball down the middle
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Wellemeyer? Molina?
JUNE 15, 2010
MESA, AZ (AP)
At approximately 4:00 Tuesday afternoon the management at Frankenstudios issued a statement that they would be boycotting the broadcast of the scheduled game between the San Francisco Giants and the Baltimore Orioles.
“This just seems wrong”, a company spokesman said. “They don’t seem to be interested in prolonging any sort of a successful run. When you have ineffective pitching there will be runs scored, and when you have slow baserunners there are NEGATIVE runs scored. We thought management was finally recognizing mistakes that were hampering team success, but this is clearly a reversion to blind veteran devotion.”
Preliminary calculations showed that the boycott would have little or no effect on the financial quarterly statement for the Giants, Major League Baseball, or for all intensive purposes anyone else on God’s green Earth.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
intensive purposes?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
“highlighting operational – CHECK.”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, just so SOMEONE knows this...I DO know it's "intents and purposes".
I think it was Grammar Thread XVIII Digression 38 where someone mentioned the ill abbreviation was a pet peeve.
I had an opportunity to include that in one of my many masterpieces here, and intentionally wrote it incorrectly. I’ve repeated that a few times and I always bold and sometimes also italicize it just to try to show I’m aware of it…yet someone ALWAYS thinks I’m innocently screwing it up.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
you and me both, buddy
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
YEAH JOEY
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: LOL AQUARIUMS AT MARLINS FIELD!!! pathetic
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
WE CANT HAVE THE FISH BEING SCARED BY THE LIGHTS AND SOUNDS!
Perhaps some robot fish are in order?!?!
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I’m really impressed that they actually seem to have benched him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sand Frog?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Yeah, fuck those fish! They should be made to suffer for our enjoyment!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL ROWNADS
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions
TIME OUT!!!!
For the record, I said my friend, who’s a Philly fan, said that. I never said it.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
When we originally signed Rowand, some Phillies fans were posting on McC about how much we were going to love Rownad as a player, etc, etc.
I think some columnists wrote similar stuff about him being a good player, gamer, that kind of stuff. A lot of YOU’RE GOING TO LOVE ROWAND!
Ask me about my blog.
Jenkins wrote a whole column about how the Aaron Rowand era was going to be so different from the Barry Bonds era, etc.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, he was sorta right… no playoffs, .500 baseball at best, no Jeff Kent fist fights… little excitement… that’s different.
TORTURE!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ho-ho! East Coast humor.
So dry you don’t know you’re being fucked with.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I need to go find Bruce Jenkins’s column about Rowand from ST 2008.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You mean this one?
http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-02-29/sports/17140791_1_aaron-rowand-big-picture-bats
They could be Giants...but not really.
YES
SO FUNNY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Although I could have sworn the one I remember ripped on Barry Bonds more explicitly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Bah. I can’t find the article but I remember the gist was along these lines:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sgreen/author?auth=152&blogid=40
Every time people ask me why I think the latter-day Barry Bonds was a drag on the Giants, I point to guys like Rollins, Chase Utley and Aaron Rowand on the Phillies. On real teams, the best players also play the hardest. They set the tone. If you ever played on a team, you understand how much that means.
They could be Giants...but not really.
And while we're ripping on Jenkins quotes
This is pure LOL
Jeff Kent wasn’t the only veteran to criticize the excessive arrogance of James Loney, Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp in the Dodger clubhouse. Derek Lowe joined in, saying, “It’s like we’ve got two different teams here, and this has has to be settled going into spring training. If there has to be a knockout, drag-out fight, so be it. But this can’t carry over where we’re having this same conversation. We can’t have the young players believing they’re bulletproof.” Added David Wells, “Some of these young guys are a little cocky. But you know what? they’re going to get humbled. And when they do, they’ll switch their attitude.” Interesting, though, nobody mentioned catcher Russell Martin, the best of all the Dodgers’ young players and likely to be a fixture in the All-Star game. “There are times when I wanted to say something,” Martin said, “but it’s just not my time. I need to have the team’s respect before I do that, and I still have to earn that respect.” Pure class…
They could be Giants...but not really.
Character judgements:
The most important role of a sportswriter.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
old guys think young guys don't respect the game enough
more on this story as it develops
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
You’re an old guy, or so I’ve heard. What are your thoughts?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand paints his face with “eye black” the way Will Clark used to do it – seriously, with great purpose and ill intent.
/barf
Ask me about my blog.
Nobody seems to give Rowand any grief whatsoever. He’s done too much in the game.
Oh yeah, Aaron Rowand has done SO much.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He wears the seasoned, confident look of a rodeo performer, or the foreman on a just-finished construction job.
He hits like a rodeo performer or a foreman. I mean wtf.
Ask me about my blog.
It’s a pretty mind boggling bit of prose. Why not just call him a cowboy or something. At least that has a semblance of baseball relevance.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Ill intent?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
You can’t make this stuff up. HE PUTS ON HIS EYE BLACK WITH GREAT PURPOSE!
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I like this bit.
You wonder how he ever came up with such a thing, but with his rugged build, facial stubble and easy smile, Rowand has a way of making people feel at ease. He wears the seasoned, confident look of a rodeo performer, or the foreman on a just-finished construction job.
So… what’s his sign?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
His stance - and what he does with it - make me feel ILL at ease.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And, on that note...here's Aaron Rowan Atkinson!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He appears to be a good teammate in the dugout
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Much better teammate than he is on the field!
Booyah! AMIRITE! RIMSHOT!
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Allegedly tomorrow. But I won’t be surprised if they’re all, “We need him to get more tests done.”
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Serve it some Chamomile.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think so, Tim.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: OMG!!! NO A-ROD TONIGHT!!!
Made ESPN news, top story in fact!!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
The second story is that Jeter bought some coffee this morning and a little bit spilled on his hand.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Where does SHE perform?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 15, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
didn't know Utah changed their logo
Warriors logo is better
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 15, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Or who did he eat?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
*whom
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Adopting Denny Bautista until someone tells me he's already spoken for.
Engineer needs not your slowly dying pronoun.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Says whom?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap, there are typos everywhere. Marriage not on the cards? Hold of Utah?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, time to head out to the golf course in Berkeley to hit some golf balls, gotta get away from this computer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I was worried you might be trying to hit whiffle balls.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid Reds
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions
Not really related but noteworthy – Billingsley headed to the DL
They could be Giants...but not really.
Why couldn't the giants win more than 2
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
OT: Jason Heyward closing in on Allstar Spot
anyone else not liking this?
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 15, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
know your place rook
he is putting up a 388/488 line with 10 HR. At age 20.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
This is Not Shopped.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I don’t even have to scroll down to your handle anymore.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
you must be this high to pitch in baseball
but you are too tall, kindly leave. also your vagina is located above your head. we have specific rules in baseball regarding the location of one’s vagina in relation to one’s head.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
She is getting ready to do the Winona Ryder ping-pong ball trick
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
but look where here hands are
how could he even consider ejecting her?
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Throws a mean screw ball.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Since the ball is still in her hand, I’m going to go with windup.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks like he is being held back by the sheer force of her awesome flexibility,
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
AmyGGiants
#sfgiants Bochy said he considered using Posey to catch, but wanted to stay with, “the hand that’s doing well.”
They could be Giants...but not really.
DUTCH RUDDERING!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that like the hand that rocks the cradle?
or is it like Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand?
OR is it like Thing from the Adams Family?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Thing would come in handy!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not even the hot hand anymore.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why people don’t ask follow up questions anymore.
Something like, “Hey that doesn’t make sense, what do you mean by that?”
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This just infuriates me. It’s totally indicative of the entire media. They’re just content with asking one question and when they get a total non-answer, they just let it go.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s gotten used to it because he’s had shills like Schulman lobbing softballs at him.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, and it’s their job to challenge these people. I mean, how hard would it be to say, “Bengie’s in a pretty bad slump and appears to be slower than ever. Please explain, in detail, the rationale of not taking this opportunity to get Buster, your big, fancy catching prospect, some time behind the plate.” Instead, he issues random sports platitudes, and they’re satisfied.
I don’t think it’s really the beat writers’ job to go all Helen Thomas on them at the press conference…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY DOESN'T BICHY JUST GO BACK TO BIGHEADISTAN!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Bichy
I am just going to say I meant to do that.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Bichy collaborators!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Something like
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? MOLINA HAS NOT BEEN THE HOT HAND SINCE BEIJING BUFFET.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
What the everloving toad fuckery.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 15, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I, .....
just…what? No…
….
no….
what?
HE IS DOING TOO WELL AT FIRST BASE! WE DO NOT WANT TO RUIN THAT!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
God Dammit this pisses me off. There really is no winning.
Posey comes up, does well and gets stuck playing out of position because the “hand is doing well”.
If he had come up and went 3-20 he would have been nailed to the bench.
Fuck you, Bochy.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Follow up question:
You mean like DeRosa’s hand?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Flamed and inflamed mean the same thing?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, I messed that up.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The SSS were right!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
So Eli over Bengie?
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys
The real follow up question: “the hand that’s doing WHAT well?”
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
AmyGGiants
#sfgiants Bochy says it’s possible Rowand will start tomorrow, but will see how tonight plays out before making a decision.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Does that mean that if we win he’s going to send out the give-up lineup?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Vintage Alou strategy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It was Alou who taught me that “winning series” is a lot like “winning innings”.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if, like ALL her interviewees seem to, Bork was staring into her eyes when he said “We’ll see how tonight plays out.”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
He wants to see if anyone goes 0-4
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
ROWANDS HAND MUST BE GETTING HOT.
Fuck you Bochy.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m trying to decide what to do for the next hour before I go kick some elderly ass at Bocce ball for a while.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
I might play Mario Kart. Then again, that might just piss me off.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Masturbate
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
What about the other 59.5 minutes?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Srsly. Fapping is a sprint, not a marathon.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Bingo.
Not trying to impress anyone.
Except the neighbors and their damn binoculars.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Just shoot at them
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if you're a hermit.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
For an hour?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Not into Daoist energy cultivation, eh?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn kids
The finish line is all they worry about
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if I can’t do it quickly.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If I had a million dollars, I would buy you a green dress.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No, that’s cruel.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
So one of those disposable paper ones then?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Groug’s would open in the front too.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If that’s how you want it.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven’t you always a monkey?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think that’s the missing word.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven’t you always HA, Monkey?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I sometimes enjoy the Horse’s Ha.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He could mean that he always has a monkey around, just in case. The implication is that most people are the same way. Not too wild of a statement.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s a barenaked ladies song.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
NL PITCHER CANNOT BEAT AL TEAM
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Going for the much sought-after unperfect game.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Philly gonna fall apart, they are already riding Utleys ass.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Jun 15, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Phall apart.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I started using my XM Inno again
I got tired of it and stopped for a while. Now that I used it today, I realized I missed it.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
Holy fuck!
That’s fascinating.
I ain't havin' it
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I knew people would want to know.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You seem to have misplaced this:
g
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I declare that rule invalid
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They only looked like one
Because they were all joined by the nutsack.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Although, it would be one of the easiest to fix.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunno if this has been mentioned yet:
The A’s just got Connor Jackson from the Dbacks
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Whoops
Already a fanshot. Carry on then.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I wish someone would pay me to send positive energy.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:27 PM PDT reply actions
I wish someone would pay me to whine and snivel.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
If you pay for the postage, I will mail you a quarter.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Done!
If I send you ten thousand envelopes, each with a stamp, will you send me ten thousand quarters?
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Stamps cost more than a quarter
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes self-deprecating humor is difficult to convey by the written word.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
And other times it just isn’t funny.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
And other times it’s both.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
shhhh
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
If you keep doing it for free, nobody ever will.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s for this reason that I would go broke as a prostitute.
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on Jun 15, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You should check Craigslist
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL DODGERS
Game got delayed before it become official. And they were leading.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 5:38 PM PDT reply actions
OT - Question for the old schoolers
Is pitch count really not a big deal?
In the last four seasons, Tim Lincecum (in 2008) is the only pitcher to throw 135 pitches in a game. In 1990, it happened 96 times. Earlier this season, when the Phillies played in Milwaukee, the Brewers’ Chris Narveson caused a stir by throwing 130.
"That was like a big deal," Moyer said. "Why? It’s not a big deal. But it is, because of the way this is being played out."
They could be Giants...but not really.
SOMEBODY be reading the NY Times!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL FAT AMERICAN
Soccer isn’t a sport and I bet you 100% of football players could play soccer. To get hit every down involves more endurance then running and sucking off another dude in stoppage time. Just because a linemen is 150 pounds overweight, you don’t think they’re in shape? You think they just don’t work out and eat ice cream all day? Soccer probably takes less endurance then football and hockey. Most of euro trash have never played a contact sport and thus don’t know how much getting hit takes out of you.
P.S. don’t tell me about rugby cause that sure as hell isn’t a sport…
From yahoo.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
I like the logic for the P.S. at the end…..just evades any possible rebuttal
RIP | anVil | 9-19-2009 | dude had potential.
by i wish we were good on Jun 15, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, Yahoo...
always so classy
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
In the unlikely event . . .
. . . that anyone is wondering why the usually verbose owlcroft has been and will be silent this eve, it is that our always dicey internet connection has descended to just barely working, meaning a page takes 10 to 15 minutes (not seconds) to load, if it does. Also my lady has abdominal pain, which required a three hour round-trip drive for an ultrasound, only to discover nothing visible. But our spirits will be hovering over you all. No, come to think of it, actually they’ll be in our drinking glasses. But you know what I mean.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Good luck
hope everything turns out alright
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I've had that connection.
You’re either going to run 100 ft of USB to that modem on the other side of the house or kick wireless to the curb and give in to the solid delight of ultrareliable wired service.
This will be the measure of your online addiction, sir.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 16, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
First . . .
. . . my thanks to the well-wishers. We still have no handle on it, though the locals at the clinic sorta forgot to check for H. pylori, which is a strong candidate. She’s on pain medication and is uncomfortable but functional.
Wireless is super when it works. We’re out in a rural area, and our telephone lines are dreadful, no possibility of wired connection above dial-up speeds. Right now, the only available ISP is a local shop that is well-intentioned but hopelessly over their heads technically. We’re supposed to get availability from a Sprint affiliate sometime in the next few months, and I can scarcely wait. Two tin cans and a string would about equal our present “service”. (I’m curious to see how long it’s going to take for this post to get uploaded.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
LOL STAR VOTING
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I need to add another by Polanco
but something different then “LOL WHAT?”
Any suggestions?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
How about this?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
pLOLanco
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
MY POKEMONZ!
I have learned that I am a very very very bad manager.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
You need to communicate more.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Your head isn't big enough
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The commercials on baseball broadcasts in other cities are way worse than they are for the Giants.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions
Madison Meltdown is pitching tonight
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions
It is Damaged Goods night at the yard
Graham RF
Renteria SS
Bowker LF
Pill 1B
Guzman 3B
Velez CF
Burriss 2B
Holm C
Bumgarner LHP
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2010 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
I need to update my sig about my son.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Very important
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG TIME TIMMY JIM!!!
LOLineup
Why is Sandoval hitting behind Posey? Sounds like a guaranteed way to erase a runner too often.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
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