minor lines, 6/13/10
by steve S on Jun 13, 2010 6:45 PM PDT
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PrintSunday highlights from the Giants' farm: John Bowker, Brett Pill, Thomas Neal, and Carlos Peguero all homered as part of multi-hit performances.
AAA: Fresno defeated Tacoma 7-3
Fresno: 2B Brock Bond: 3 for 5, SO
Fresno: LF John Bowker : 2 for 4, HR, BB, SO, SB
Fresno: 1B Brett Pill: 3 for 5, HR, SB
Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 K
Fresno: RP Steven Edlefsen: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Bowker and Pill had their 2nd and 9th HRs, respectively, while reaching base three times. Bond also reached base three times, with his three singles pushing his AVG above .300.
Hacker improved his W-L record to 8-3 through thirteen starts. Today he got more ground ball outs than usual with a 12/2 GO/FO line. For the season, his GO/AO ratio remains below 1.40. With a perfect 9th inning, Edlefsen lowered his ERA to 1.16.
AA: Richmond lost to Reading 7-5
Richmond: LF Thomas Neal: 2 for 4, HR, HBP, SB
Richmond: RF Roger Kieschnick: 2 for 5, 2B, SO
Richmond: 2B Ryan Lormand: 3 for 5
Richmond: SP Daryl Maday: 4.2 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K--1 HR, 1 HB
Richmond: RP Tony Pena Jr.: 0.2 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB--1 WP
Reading: SP J.A. Happ: 2.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 HR, 1 HB
Lormand's three hits paced the Flying Squirrels' fifteen hit attack. One of five other Squirrels with a multi-hit line, Neal had his 4th HR. Kieschnick doubled in his first game after three weeks on the DL.
Maday has still yet to allow more than 3 ER in a start this year, but today's start was his shortest start of the year. Since being mentioned in the Baseball America Prospect Hot Sheet just over a couple weeks ago, Pena has really scuffled, and this might have been his worst appearance in that stretch. He has allowed 10 ER in his last seven games after allowing just 3 ER in his first sixteen games. Making his second rehab start, the Phillies' Happ did not make it through the 3rd inning.
A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 7-5
San Jose: DH Carlos Peguero: 3 for 4, HR, SO, SB
San Jose: LF Jose Flores: 2 for 3, CS
San Jose: SP Kyle Nicholson: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 HR, 1 WP
San Jose: RP Brian Anderson: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB--1 HR
San Jose: RP David Quinowski: 1.2 IP, 1 BB, 3 K
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 1 H
Playing his first game after more than two weeks on the DL, Peguero had his 4th HR and 20th SB. Flores continues to swing a hot bat, with his AVG now a .347.
Nicholson had what qualifies as a quality start to get his ERA back below 7.00. Anderson retired just one of the four batters he faced, but Quinowski struck out three of his six batters. Quinowski's K/IP is just shy of 1.33. Stoffel got his 12th save.
A-: Augusta had a scheduled off-day
(Their next scheduled off-day is this Thursday, June 13.)
DSL: The Gigantes had their regular Sunday off-day
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Flying Squirrels
Thank you guys for finally showing up.
It’s on. Pillapalooza is kicking into gear.
Welcome back San Francisco Peguero.
You might be the only Pill and Culberson fan around.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
But both at the same time.
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
flyonthewall
WHY DO THE GIANTS ONLY LIKE FAT, NO DEFENSE FIRST BASEMEN!! – he says this as Ishikawa is our everyday, light hitting, all defense, first basemen
I'd like Pill more if we didn't already have version 1 of him in SF right now
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
I know you don’t mean Ishikawa.
by Rorsavelt on Jun 14, 2010 12:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that's exactly what he meant
The primary difference being that one is a lefty and one is a righty.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Kieschy's back!
And Neal is finally on a sustained hot streak (with power included). His slash over his last 10 games is .410/439/.590/1.029! As I wrote on another thread recently, people have been much too quick to jump off his bandwagon this year. AA is a hard nut to crack the first go-round.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Neal's had a very nice June
let’s hope he keeps that up the rest of the year
What scared me about Neal
was that the most sustained success he’s had in his career was in the Cal league. That said, I probably ranked him too low on my prospect list.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Neal's history
I think that’s because you don’t know the specifics of his minor league past. HIs first 3 years in the system are very misunderstood. Last year in SJ was the first full season where he was fully 100% healthy.
Neal’s first year was in 2006 with S-K in the Northwest League (he was drafted in 2005, but didn’t sign until 2006 – back in the days when draft-and-follow was still around). He did Ok for the first 6 weeks, then had a major shoulder injury while diving into a bag. He missed the remainder of 2006, had shoulder surgery, rehabbed, and finally came back for 10 games in the AZL at the very end of the 2007 season. In 2008, he played the entire year in Augusta. His shoulder was still not 100%, and the Giants took it very slow and easy with him. He played mainly at 1B and DH, so that he wouldn’t have to use his right arm much throwing the ball. He had a pretty good year in Augusta (15 HRs), and came on real strong at the end, but his shoulder still wasn’t 100%.
Finally, last year he was fully healthy for the first time since 2006, and he had his “break-out” year in SJ, where they also put him back in his original position of LF. There was a lot of misinformation printed about him in the press and on the internet, because they couldn’t be bothered to check out his past injury history. They just looked at his prior year in Augusta, and his overall minor league stats, and assumed that he must be a product of the “Cal League effect” since he had just been a DH and part-time 1B in the past.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I knew he was injured
I’m just always a little skeptical of someone who breaks out in the cal league-I mean I still had him as the #4 prospect in the system coming into the year, I just wasn’t completely sold.
FWIW I’m not completely sold on Belt for the same reason, which is why he needs to go to AA.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
by Gobroks on Jun 14, 2010 12:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Under the circumstances (coming back from a year off for surgery, and the extreme pitching favoring Augusta ballpark) I’d say his Sally year was actually very successful. It’s true he didn’t have sustained success as that season was generally 1) hot first 6 weeks; 2) extremely cold middle 8 weeks; 3) scorching hot final 6 weeks, but still I was highly pleased with his Augusta campaign.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Belt
I’m more accepting of Belt’s success, because he truly re-worked his swing mechamics over the winter to free up his hips and unleash his natural power. With him, we knew we were getting a guy that would play good D, have a guud eye, and hit around .300. The problem was always going to be that it was a powerless .300 – mainly singles to LF and CF. So, the fact that he’s been able to maintain his excellent plate discipline (20% BB rate vs. 13.5% K rate), while greatly increasing his power (slg > .600) tells me this is real. Of course, he’s not going to hit over .400 as he moves up the ladder, but a consistent .320+ is quite projectable. And his walks and slg should remain in the same ballpark as he maintains his plate discipline and gets more and more comfortable with his new swing.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
One more reason for optimism, and this goes for what Neal did last year too, is that Belt’s home and away splits are very similar. There’s almost no difference in his results in his home park (which is probably the most pitcher-friendly in the league), so his success can’t be mainly attributed to him just taking advantage of the many hitter-friendly parks in the Cal League.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
He won’t continue to hit over .400?!?!?!
Total non-prospect then.
/Sabeaned
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jun 14, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude won't win batting titles
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Lol, “then had a major shoulder injury while diving into a bag”. I am surprised it was a success.
by Rorsavelt on Jun 14, 2010 12:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Tommy Mendonca
Who would have guessed that he would be doing so poorly at the age of 22 in A ball – a Rowandian .226/304/.332/.635 with 58 Ks (27%!) and only 16 BBs in 199 ABs? Not to mention he already has 18 errors at 3B this year. The Rangers were widely praised for “stealing” him in the 2nd round of last year’s draft., but Culberson is dominating him in the stats dept.
And don’t even get me started on Mendonca’s fellow 2009-draftee Dustin Ackley, who’s still scuffling mightily in the AA Southern League. He was supposed to be far-and-away the most advanced bat in the draft last year.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Ackley scuffling?
Not since April, I’d say: .303/.475/.447 in May, .325/.417/.425 in June. Not Mike Stanton, but not ‘scuffling’ either.
I call not being able to slug over .440 scuffling. You don’t use the #2 pick in the draft for a singles hitter that’s not a plus defender or a stolen-base threat.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I guess it's a denotational issue
I save the word ‘scuffling’ for a guy who looks like he’ll never hit in the majors (see Gillaspie, Connor — a guy about whom I was completely wrong, since on draft day I thought he’d be the next Bill Mueller). If you’d called him ‘disappointing’ I’d have agreed — with a top-5 pick, you want your college hitter’s initial slash lines to look like Posey’s, not Ackley’s.
What are his splits?
I remember him batting really poorly from one side of the plate during the CWS run. Shows how much I know about my college baseball team that I forget which side :/
by Artimus Clyde on Jun 14, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s hitting for a bit more power and average from the left-hand side, but his walk rate is better from the right-hand side so his OBP is virtually identical. But, both splits are very ugly for a highly-drafted 22 year old with almost a full season under his belt in the Cal League.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Hmmm…That’s disappointing to see. I guess I always figured he would really excel from the one side, especially power wise. Hope he gets going but I kind of doubt it.
by Artimus Clyde on Jun 15, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He's BAAAAAAAAAAACK
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
NEAL IS REAL
FOREVER AND ALWAYS
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AMEN
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 13, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I jumped on the Neal bandwagon late (about two thirds through last season)..
but im happy to say I never jumped off when he was hitting around .230 or so.
Glad to see him heating up again.
Now if more of the squirrels could follow suit, thatd be nice
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Long night?
Or are you just trasfixed by Carlos Santana’s major league debut?
San Jose: DH Carlos Peguero: 3 for 4, HR, SO, SB
Unless we’ve recently signed a new international FA, our beloved prospect down in SJ with the last name Peguero, has the first name Francisco. You also called him Carlos in the blurb above the jump.
Thankfully GRM hasn’t noticed it yet or the conspiracy theory accusations woul be flying fast and furious. LOL
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I thought we made a trade with the Mariners
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
by Gobroks on Jun 14, 2010 12:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice to see the Hack back on track.
/rests
Was there a mechanics flaw?
I know the difference between wrong and right
Don't make no difference in the middle of the night.
- Robert Cray, "Consequences"
by Snakepitbanitsagasbabycanyoudigit on Jun 14, 2010 6:33 AM PDT reply actions
NEAL!!!!
Goddammit I’m sorry John.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Crawford
Keeps hovering between .245 and .255. OBP is strong. Leads team in HR’s. I don’t like his low no. of doubles and he is still striking out way too much. But all in all, not bad numbers at this point. It would be nice to see him get hot.
OTOH – Ford is struggling.
I'd be really happy if he turns into JJ Hardy-which is who he's compared to
…Early Hardy that is, not traded for Carlos Gomez Hardy
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Still cheering for Kevin Frandsen
John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Neal gradually improved all last summer at San Jose. Looked ordinary early, and batted 7th or 8th in the order, while Noonan and Gillespie were 3 and 4.
But Neal was the best hitter on the team by the end.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez
He started the season hitting 7th, but he hardly looked ordinary, getting off to a torrid start with an 1.122 OPS in April. In fact, April and June were his two hottest months of the year. He did cool off significantly cool in May (OPS of .800), but caught fire again through June and July (1.234 and 1.075) before ending the season in something of a cool down (.858 and .773 in August and September).
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
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