minor lines, 6/10/10
Thursday highlights from the Giants' farm: Darren Ford homered and tripled among three hits, and both Brandon Belt and Nick Liles reached base four times. Also notable, Henry Sosa allowed just 1 ER in 5.0 IP in his first start this year.
AAA: Fresno defeated Tacoma 9-5Fresno: 2B-3B Brock Bond: 2 for 4, 2 BB
Fresno: CF Eugenio Velez: 3 for 5, SO
Tacoma: SS Jack Wilson: 1 for 2, HR
Fresno: SP Henry Sosa: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K--1 HR
Fresno: RP Osiris Matos: 1.0+ IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER
Fresno: RP Geno Espineli: 2.0 IP, 2 K
Tacoma: RP Steve Palazzolo: 2.2 IP, 1 H, 3 K
Velez's three singles led six Grizzlies with multi-hit lines and raised his AVG to .322. Bond reached base four times, raising his OBP to .419. The Mariners' Wilson homered in his third PCL rehab game.
After seventeen relief appearances, Sosa made his first start, pounding the strike zone with 47 of 66 pitches for strikes. He averaged 13 pitches per inning, allowing him to pitch five full innings in his first start. With 4 ER, Matos's ERA soared to 4.72. Espineli had 2.0 perfect IP, although he did allow both inherited runners to score. Palazzolo, who pitched for Fresno last year, made his seventh appearance this year with a season-high 3 K.
AA: Richmond lost to New Britan 6-5
(after the scored was tied 1-1 through five innings)
Richmond: CF Darren Ford: 3 for 4, HR, 3B, BB
Richmond: RF Skyler Stromsmoe: 2 for 5, 2B
Richmond: SP Clayton Tanner: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 2 K--1 HR
Richmond: RP Tony Pena Jr.: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Ford had perhaps his best game of the year, falling a double short of the cycle. He is now hitting .236/.307/.356 through 208 AB after his first multi-hit game this month. Stromsmoe continues to swing a hot bat.
After just one run through five innings, three runs in the 6th inning left Tanner shy of a quality start. His ERA is now 3.72 through eleven starts. His K/BB ratio is now 1.00. Pena has now allowed a run in four of his last six appearances, raising his ERA to 2.36.
A+: San Jose lost to Modesto 5-4
(allowing two runs in 9th inning)
San Jose: DH Brandon Belt: 2 for 3, 2B, 2 BB, SO
San Jose: SS Manny Burriss: 2 for 3, SB, CS, E
San Jose: C Aaron Lowenstein: 2 for 3, 2B
Modesto: 3B Ryan Peisel: 2 for 4, 2 HR
San Jose: SP Eric Surkamp: 7.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 WP
San Jose: RP Edwin Quirarte: 0.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER--1 HR
Belt, one of two Giants hitters named to participate in the all-star game between the California and Carolina leagues, reached base four times. He has had multiple hits in seven of his last ten games. Burriss had a couple hits in his third rehab game, as well as his first steal, his first caught stealing, and his first error. Backup catcher Lowenstein was a third Giant with two hits. Peisel, whom the Rockies selected in the twelfth round two years ago, had his first two HRs of the year, including a go-ahead two-run shot in the 9th inning.
Surkamp, one of three Giants pitchers named to the mid-season all-star game, had his longest start since his complete-game shutout in mid-May, but he also had his fewest strikeouts since his first start of the year. His K/BB ratio slipped just below 4.00. Quirarte allowed his 2nd HR in 27.0 IP this year to take the loss. Despite having an ERA of just 1.00, he has a 1-3 W-L record.
A-: Augusta defeated Hickory 9-3
(after a six-run 4th inning)
Augusta: LF Nick Liles: 3 for 4, BB, SB
Augusta: RF Ryan Lollis: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SO
Augusta: CF Daniel Cook: 3 for 4, 2 2B
Augusta: SP Kyle Vazquez: 4.2 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 K--2 HB
Augsua: Hector Correa: 1.0 IP, 3 K
The GreenJackets' trio of outfielders combined to reach base ten times, including four times by Liles who had his 12th SB. Cook had his 14th and 15th doubles.
With more than two walks for the first time in his last seven starts, Vazquez had a start with less than 5.0 IP for the first time this year. His ERA remains below 3.25. Correa struck out all three batters he faced.
DSL: Giants defeated Yankees1 6-5
Dominican: 2B Cristian Paulino: 2 for 4, HR, BB, SO, SB
Dominican: SP Keurin Feliz: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 4 K--1 HR
Paulino's (18.9 y.o.) 2nd HR and single raised his SLG to .500 through 36 AB in ten games. At least statistically, Feliz's (19.9 y.o.) second start was solid, although not quite as good as his first start (1 ER in 6.0 IP).
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/insert rant about how Freddy Sanchez’s stats should be above the jump
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Surkamp and Belt should spend the 2nd half of the year in AA
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+1
This season will be a total waste for their development if God doesn’t grant them a) the serenity to accept the things they cannot change, b) courage to change the things they can, and c) wisdom to know the difference.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 11, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
J.J. Cooper is a fan Belt.
Timmy L. (San Francisco): Am I way off with a Brandon Belt/Ike Davis comp? This guy needs to make the move to AA.
J.J. Cooper: Yeah that’s a stretch. Belt doesn’t have Davis’ power. He’s more of a high-average guy who hit a number of doubles. But Belt is making a nice argument to move to Double-A.
PAUL (SEATTLE): Besides the obvious mike trout and mike leake, is there anyone from this past years draft that you have been really empressed with?
J.J. Cooper: From the obvious category that Strasburg guy also has been pretty good, but then you knew that. Nick Franklin, Mike Minor and Kyle Gibson are three that have stood out to me. Franklin because he’s shown more power and bat than I expected. Minor because his velo has jumped a tick higher which really changes the perception of him as a prospect and Gibson because he’s shown he’s healthy and can just mow down lineups with his heavy stuff. Digging deeper Wil Myers has shown why the Royals paid him $2 million as a third-rounder and Brandon Belt looks like a very nice $200,0000 for a fifth-round pick. With Belt, he’s managed to retool his swing to be much more conventional which gives him a better chance of wood bat success.
Belt seems like a perfect player for Large Phone Company Park
Doubles are always helpful, as is a high average.
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Triples!
Don’t forget that Belt has above-average speed. a number of those balls that he’s hitting in the RC gap for doubles now, will be triples at the Booth. If he does succeed in making it hiere, I could see him averaging about 10 triples a year – which should be a nice counterbalance to the 5, or so, HRs he’ll lose each year.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
What position has, or will
Belt be best suited for?
Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.
1B
He’s a plus defender at 1B – on the order of Ishikawa.
On the other hand, he does have enough athleticism, foot-speed, range and arm-strength to play at least an average RF (or above-average LF), if for some unforeseen reason we have a stud power hitter at 1B that blocks his path to the majors.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I hope Buster isn’t still at 1B by the time Belt might be ready to break into the majors. If he’s not going to be our full-time catcher, then I’d much rather see Buster at 2B – which I think he would have no problem playing with enough reps. His bat would be much more of a plus at C or 2B than at 1B. We should be able to find somebody else to man 1B that has a decent power bat – and we do have several options working their way through the minors.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I would very much like to see Busty at 2B. That assumes we acquire a competent catcher.
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Mike Minor
Any relation to Damon and Ryan?
Speaking of the Minor brothers: Has there ever been a baseball player with a more appropriate last name?
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by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 11, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
When you see Eugenio Velez hitting .322, you kind of see what Sabean was talking about when he criticized AAA stats.
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by rxmeister on Jun 11, 2010 3:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I feel like Sabean things that Velez is the exception though
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No you don’t. You just see that minor league stats are close to useless when you ignore the player’s age.
I was promised lasagna.
It's not the years . . .
. . . it’s the mileage. Minor-league stats (and the derived MLEs) are normally representative only while the player is in the process of moving through the levels. Once he starts repeating a level, and especially if he has been sent back from a higher level, and most especially if that higher level was the majors (however poorly he did at the higher level), the numbers tend to seriously lose meaning. (That’s one reason I’m deeply skeptical of Bowker’s “big year” in 2009.)
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Bowker never really played at AAA before 2009. He went straight from Connecticut to SF in 2008.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jun 11, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Andy Seiler doesn't think the Giants will sign Brown until the last day
Does the Giants sign Brown in time?
And what was your overall impression of the Giants draft?
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by 49er16 on Jun 11, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
. 1. Yeah, they’ll ink him, and it will be the day of the deadline.
2. It was decent. Kind of middle of the road. I like a few picks, but there are some I didn’t like either.
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by Andy Seiler on Jun 11, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s not good.
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I shouldn't be surprised, but I am
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Really?
Thought the bar has been set with the Rangers signing of #22 pick Kellin Deglan for $1M. They can negotiate after CSF completes their season.
I hope he signs ASAP but I think with Boras involved it could take a while
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Still Holding Out Hope For Henry
I understand that the Grizzlies were short on starters however I am glad to see Sosa back with a start. Keep throwing him out there every fifth day.
Brandon Belt is a beast.
No beast in Richmond.
Don’t write Neal off so quickly – it’s still early in the season. Sure, he’s struggling in AA, but it’s not as if he’s stinking up the place. Mike Stanton struggled in AA, and so did Jason Heyward. Beware of players rocketing through the minors with no struggles – only the rare handful can survive that. Every player needs to learn how to deal with adversity if they’re going to be long-term major leaguers. I’m happy that Neal is learning that now in AA, so he won’t be sucker-punched when he gets to SF in 2011-12.
For example, you see what Gordon Beckham’s going through with the White Sox this year. He sailed through the minors and had a very good rookie year, but now he’s come back to earth and is totally lost. He didn’t learn how to cope with it in the minors
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think Stanton was 16 and Heyward was 15 when they struggled at AA Thomas Neal is ready to apply for Medi-Cal.
LOL
So you’re saying that Stanton and Heyward have been falsifying their ages – downward? I thought only international FAs did that.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Heyward hit .352/.446/.611 in AA. Stanton hit .262/.364/.560 in AA over two seasons. Both were 19 years old whereas Neal is 23.
Stanton’s stats in his first 2+ months in AA last year (,231/.311/.455/.766 – 99Ks in 299 ABs) were worse than Neal’s first 2 this year (.268/327/.374/.701 – 47Ks in 235 ABs). Also, remember that the Eastern League is much more of a pitcher’s league than the Southern League.
So, bringing up Stanton’s AA stats doesn’t negate my point, it bolsters it. He scuffled in his first several months at AA, but this year, he found his eye/stroke and is now in the majors (but please notice that he still Ks at an alarming rate – 21% this year). Age has nothing to do with my point. If you re-read what I wrote you’ll see that I say that players need to learn how to overcome seemingly dire adversity at some point in their career. It could be as an 18-year old in A ball, or as a 26 year old in the majors. Personally, I’d rather have it happen in the minors when it’s less traumatic and you have more time and ease to fix things.
As for Heyward, I must be thinking of his first few months in high-A, because I know there was a point where people were kvetching about his numbers in the the past 2 years.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
If Belt is a beast, and Culberson is a beast, then does that make Brian Harper The Beastmaster?
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by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 11, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
What happened to Kieshnick?(sp)
I imagine he is injured…but whats his status?
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IT JUST MAKES NO DAMN SENSE
by Mordy From Monsey on Jun 11, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
It was originally listed as a 7-Day stint for “back spasms”. Seems like it’s been quite a while longer than back spasms would take to calm down, though.
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Slightly OT
I was thinking about going to a San Jose Giants game for the first time this weekend, and I was wondering what people who have gone in the past think about the experience. Is it worth it? Is it a pretty low-key affair? Is there any chance a game might sell out?
Definitely worth it
It probably won’t sell out, but there’s no reason not to buy tickets online first.
SJ Giants games are a blast. Can’t beat Turkey Mike’s, the beer batter and the silly between inning games.
Go for sure
SJ Giants game are a ton of fun.
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I’ve been going to SJ Giants games for years and have yet had a bad experience! It’s the perfect family friendly place to watch a ballgame and the best part at a very decent price… (The beer batter is the highlight of the game. If the beer batter strikes out the beer in that inning is buy one get one free. 2 beers for $5 can’t beat it!)
by MoneyMike14 on Jun 12, 2010 1:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, hopefully he stays in the rotation
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I’m guessing this might just be a spot start cause of the Martinez call up cause I remember hearing that “Big Head” known as our manager stated that the only way he sees Sosa make this team is as a reliever
by MoneyMike14 on Jun 12, 2010 1:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

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