Post-game thread: Giants come back, sweep Diamondbacks
by Grant Brisbee on May 30, 2010 4:52 PM PDT
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Sure, his doubles prowess was one of the reasons the Giants were even in the game, but he wasn't the only hero of the game. If you break down the g...
Dammit. Listen to me. Yes, it's great that Posey is defying the smallsamplophilia of the Giants brass, and sure he looks great right now, but...
Alright. Have your way. But someone else deserves just as much, if not more, credit for the win.
Thank you for being the New Andres Torres, Andres Torres. And what is up in the corner of that photography studio? It must be fascinating.
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I can see the pixels
my cousin and i got noah lowry's autograph after he came out of a porta-potty. he was nice about it.
thats pixie dust
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
by slackersphere17 on May 30, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres lingers in the shadows.
Man, how about the defense of the Giants today? Also the terrible baserunning by the Dbacks?
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Way to go Giants!
And keep your ass sitting Rowand.
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This
Rowand should really be held out of the lineup for a while. He was the only one who really did nothing in yesterdays blowout (1 RBI notwithstanding) and the team was very functional today, and the defense was stellar without him.
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What's going on in Bochy's head
Game 1: Rowand plays, Giants win 5-0
Game 2: Rowand plays, Giants win 12-1
Game 3: Rowand sits, Giants win 6-5
Conclusion: Giants are much, much better when Rowand plays. Rowand never sits again.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
i'll say it again here...
i want torres, mole, panda, huff, uribe and posey playing everyday. i don’t give a FUCK about rowand molina, or renteria.
by giantdonkey on May 30, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
I second this motion
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Add Nate to your list and I’m on board
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by norcalnick on May 30, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
feels
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dead.
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this
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Also wrecked.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
And Pujols.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
one can only dream
CF – Torres
2B – Sanchez
3B – Panda
LF – Willingham
1B – Huff
C – Posey
SS – Uribe
RF – Schierholtz
P
fap fap fap fap
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
While we're at it
SS- H. Ramirez
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by Giantsfan4life on May 30, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
DOESN'T HUSTLE
NOT A GAMER
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Not Now. They Are The Same And Rowand's Track Record Is Much Better
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
the same??
Schierholtz 2010: .288/.363/.406
Rowand 2010: .230/.263/.401
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by jponry on May 30, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL Schierholtz having an OBP 100 points above Rowand
but besides Rowand being worse than Nate in every category, they’re basically the same
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Since the Florida NY road trip there has been no difference as they both have sucked. Long term the offensive outlook due to trackrecord is better for Rowand but the defensive outlook is better for Schierholtz therefore I do not care which of these two plays.
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
GUYS!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 30, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL!!
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Terrifying visual
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.406 OBP? Yeah, bench the guy.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
D’oh, my bad… but .363 OBP is still good, and 100 points better than Rowand.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
WINNAR
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Not now.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand w/ Giants: .262/.321/.413
Nate Schierholtz w/ Giants: .285/.325/.413
They’ve been essentially the same, the difference between the two could be Nate’s defense.. And also Nate’s upside.
Also.. I really wouldn’t be surprised if Rowand finished the season with a sub .310 OBP, whereas Nate has shown some improvements this season with getting on base. I don’t see him having an OBP that goes much higher than 50 points to his BA, but to me, Schierholtz seems like a better guy to have out there every day instead of Rowand.
Not the biggest upgrade, but if you include upside.. Maybe.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 30, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
So what you are saying is
We should focus on the super small sample size over the last 2 weeks and note that they are the same out making machine.
We should not focus on the good sample size of Year to Date
We should then focus again and base projection on what Rowand has done in his career.
My goodness. You are cherry picking your stats TO THE EXTREME, and still can’t prove a point.
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You Are Obviously Blinded By Nate's Arm
and speed and glove. But don’t forget that Rowand is only 100 points behind on obp.
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by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t his shoulder still hurt a little? I’m sure he’ll improve soon.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on May 30, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
+1 Almost
Renteria when healthy has been great too. Don’t forget that not too long ago it was mole that was the allways hurt guy.
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Renteria Hasn't Been Healthy In A While
And his range is really horrible, Edgar Renteria makes good plays from balls that are hit directly at Edgar Renteria.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
UZR Disagrees His Defense Has Been Fine
And he has been more healthy then Mole since Mole got here.
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
192 innings of UZR is close to meaningless.
by scotterduder on May 30, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And Your Eyes On Even Fewer Innings Is Even More Meaningless
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t you say recently that you only need your eyes for like five games to get a good read on a player?
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by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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wait
arent you the one that works for a major league team?
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by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he was a middle-aged woman??
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 30, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
giggle
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I love how this is directly above Buster’s eyes.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY GUYS! LOOK AT ME!!
GUYS!
YOU’RE NOT LOOKING!!
GUYS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 30, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't even say Rent's defense is bad
What I tried to say is that using a small sample of UZR to say his defense has been “fine” is ridiculous. Maybe it is fine, maybe it’s not, but your argument is terrible.
by scotterduder on May 30, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree with
‘a professionals eyes says all’.
But I do agree that UZR is a much better indicator than using your eyes.
Considering that there isn’t really evidence to conclude that his range is as bad as it is often said here, it’s MORE reasonable to conclude that it’s fine.
Give me a reason other than small sample size usage of your eyes as to why Renteria’s range is poor.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 30, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree.
Because there’s even more SSS issues with using your eyes.
This is why stats are the preferable method.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 30, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there are certain things you can glean from watching a player. A guy who goes 0-10 might just be in a slump. But if you watch him for those 10 at bats and see that he actually has the bat speed of a nine-year-old, then you know all you need to know about him.
Of course, this doesn’t necessarily apply and it IS an extreme example. But there are valuable things that actual scouting/watching can show you that have nothing to do with sample size.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
what small sample?
He played league average D over a full season last year, and right around average this year. In what world is that not fine?
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The world . . .
. . . of people who hate Edgar Renteria because he’s Edgar Renteria. There are, as I have found, quite a few of them.
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Please,
please, please tell me where I even allude to hating Edgar Renteria. I hate GRM’s lazy argument. And now I hate your lazy assumption that I hate Renteria.
I love the win today though!
by scotterduder on May 30, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was under the impression
that GRM was using UZR to defend Renteria’s defense this year, based on him saying “Renteria when healthy has been great too”. That clearly doesn’t refer to last year. If he is using only this year’s UZR, then that is nonsensical, because of the small sample size (192 innings).
by scotterduder on May 30, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually . . .
. . . UZR and its kin are nonsensical at pretty much any sample size. The how and why wants a long, separate post, but for those seeking a hint, think “BABIP”.
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You may be right
If they can get HitFX going and integrate that into UZR, that’d be great.
by scotterduder on May 30, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
even worse: those who take UZR and ilk as gospel for calculating salary, as though this issue is anywhere close to solved.
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I would actually love to read that long and separate post.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In short . . .
. . . very short: steady, almost invariant BABIP for pitchers—much less entire pitching staffs—would be impossible were not virtually every team fielding nearly the exact same percentage of balls hit to them. Yet the “new fielding stats” say that changing out one average defender for some one outstandingly good (or bad) fielder will make a bigger difference to that team’s results than the difference between the best-fielding and worst-fielding teams in the game overall.
I don’ theeenk so . . . .
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Except none of this is actually true.
The difference between a great and terrible defender is 20-25 runs.
The difference between the highest pitching BABIP and lowest pitching BABIP in the majors last year was .040 – the Red Sox had a .320 BABIP, the Mariners had a .280 BABIP.
Both the Mariners and Red Sox allowed about 4,300 balls in play last year. A .040 difference in BABIP is worth 172 hits per 4,300 balls in play.
If we assume that ALL those hits were singles, the difference turns out to be 132 runs (using Linear Weights). If we assume that one in 4 hits was a double or triple (based on hits actually allowed by the two pitching staffs), the difference is 150 runs between the best and worst defense.
150 runs is a a hell of a lot more than 25 runs.
By the way, the difference between the highest and lowest team UZR last year was 134.4 runs. The Mariners were again the best, and the Royals, who were also third worst in BABIP, were the worst.
I was promised lasagna.
Let's look.
BABIP was simply a handle. Through yesterday’s games (I think—it might be the day before, I’m not sure my stat source updated correctly today), the best fieldiing team in the game was San Francisco and the worst Milwaukee. Here is how that is calculated:
Balls In Play as defined here is things the fielding could affect: all Plate Appearances minus StrikeOuts, minus HomeRuns, minus BasesonBalls, and minus HitByPitch:
BIP = PA – SO – HR – BB – HBP
Outs made by fielders (FO) is defined as all outs minus SO. That differs somewhat from things like DER, in that it also counts outs made by double (and triple) plays on runners already on base; but I think most people will reckon that DP ability is a part of fielding prowess or lack of it (and, as it turns out, it doesn’t make much difference anayway):
FO = (IP x 3) – SO
The ratio is Fielding Efficiency:
FE = FO/BIP
It is an answer to the simple question “Of all the outs the fielders could have made, how many did they make?”
Like most such stats, it has some holes in it, but they are pinholes. Things not considered are:
1. Foul popups not caught.
2. HRs catchable at the fence but not caught.
3. DP (and TPs) turned involving runners not originally on through BIPs.
All of those are small to begin with, and the differences between them from team to team microscopic.
So far, all this is rather definite calculation:
SF: .793
Mil: .709
That is (speaking from experience) an unusually large top-to-bottom gap, and in fact the second-worst team, Pittsburgh, is at .723. By season’s end, the gap will have shrunken noticeably.
Now, we can next take the MLB average FE (which is .751) and calculate the difference between that and the FE for each team. If we then apply that difference to the team’s actual BIP figure, we get the number of extra base runners the defense saves or costs compared to an average defense. (That is not 100% correct, in that getting more or fewer outs affects the opponents’ effective OBP, so that their PAs vary slightly, correspondingly putting more or fewer balls into play, but the effect is minor on the scale we are discussing.)
If we pro-rate out for a full season (and, again, right now this will generate larger numbers than we will in actuality end up with), the difference from average in terms of runners saved or cost is:
SF: -162 runners
Mil: +186 runners
Pgh: +125 runners
Next, we have to try to translate those numbers to runs, and then runs to wins.
For now, I will use a simple method: reckon the percentage of actual base runners, excluding home runs, who end up scoring—
(OR – HR) / BIP
—and apply that ratio to the number of extra or saved base runners from fielding above or below average.
For the Giants, that fraction is currently about 12%, while for the Brewers it’s about 17% (and for the Pirates also about 17%). Thus, the approximate extra (or fewer) seasonal runs (just pro-rating up to 162 games) is:
SF: -19
Mil: +32
Pgh: +21
(I keep mentioning Pittsburgh because Milwaukee right now is a freak outlier; as you can see, SF and Pittsburgh are approximately symmetrical around average.)
For games won or lost by fielding differing from average, we can use any of the “Pythagorean”-like formulae. The expected seasonal results from pro-rating, using today’s stats, are:
SF: -2
Mil: +3
Pgh: +2
You can see a full tabulation for all teams, and more-detailed notes, here.
If you find anything there to be incorrect, say what and why.
I find it remarkable that you assert that 172 hits will produce 132 runs; does not everyday experience suggest to you that that is, um, bizarre?
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The first part of this is fine. Your Waterloo, as I’ve explained before, comes when you try to convert hits to runs.
I can’t work out how you get to the 12% figure, but in fact around 35-40% of baserunners go on to score. So you must start with each hit being worth 0.35 to 0.4 runs. When you consider that the hit will sometimes drive in runs as well, and that the batter’s having reached safely increases the opportunity for succeeding batters to score, the cost to the defense for each missed play adds up in a hurry.
Or you could just check the run expectancy tables, which measure what has actually happened in various game situations, and see the average single leads to around 0.65 to 0.7 runs being scored, and extra-base hits somewhat more.
It's simple:
And given above. The ratio of non-HR runs to BIP is applied. Since marginal runners on by putting the ball into play should have the same chance of scoring as all runners on by putting the ball in play, there we are.
You are, I suspect, confusing BIP with hits. Recall that home runs, which are “hits” that have a very great deal to do with controlling scoring (both for the batter and for others on base), are not “balls in play”. The ratios for BIP are thus going to be substantially less than for H overall.
One of these days, if time allows, I’ll plug in a full runs-scored formulation and apply perturbation to it and see.
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Non-HR runs/BIP is not the percentage of runners that score
It’s the average number of runs scored on a random non-HR ball in play. Totally different thing.
Zito, to pick an example, has allowed about 2900 baserunners in his career (exc HR), and allowed about 750 runs (exc HR). He’s obviously a well above average career pitcher, hence he has a low % of baserunners scored of about 26%.
What I find strange is that this is the perfect place to apply a multiplicative TOP-like method, yet you apply a linear method here. Surely, the simplest reliable method to apply here is to take an average player, and add on a relevent amount of OBP/SLG, and see what increase you get. An extra .040 of BABIP is what, an extra .030 of batting average, an extra .025 of OBP and an extra .030 of slugging, at a bare minimum assuming all singles? How many extra runs of TOP is that? I can see from the posted F Lewis example it’s a lot more than 25. Then we add in outs that become doubles, singles that become doubles, double plays that become one out, foul flies not caught, outs that become errors, other baserunners needlessly advancing…all these things go in the same direction: more runs, on top of the naked OPS increase.
Could you do your TOP calc on, say, Uribe per 2009 and compare with an extra 0.030 of OBP (increased a tad to represent extra errors, missed GIDPs and missed foul flies/popups) and an extra 0.040 of SLG (increased a tad for extra base hits plus extra advancing runners)? To me, that would be very much a lowside estimate of the difference between best and worst fielding teams.
And that, of course, is very much a lowball estimate of the hypothetical difference between a team of nine gold gloves, and the team made up of nine gloves made from recycled wooden spoons.
by sarf_london_niner on Jun 1, 2010 4:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Now I think about it, your ratio isn't what I said it was. What is it supposed to mean?
by sarf_london_niner on Jun 1, 2010 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions
He must have just grabbed the wrong equation, since the equation here clearly does not do what he says it’s going to do:
For now, I will use a simple method: reckon the percentage of actual base runners, excluding home runs, who end up scoring—
(OR – HR) / BIP
BIP has no relevance at this point; to calculate the percentage of baserunners who go on to score, you need something like (runs – HR) / (hits + walks + HBP – HR). Though the limitations of this are well articulated by Cookyman below.
Clever idea about tinkering with player’s TOP numbers as a way of simulating the effects of defense. I’d like to see that.
Like Even said, you’re just not translating hits into runs correctly.
Your first mistake is that you’ve ignored the fact that those hits also result in runs batted in. Calculating only their odds of scoring while ignoring their odds of driving in other runners will obviously drastically undervalue them.
Your second (minor) mistake is that by looking at “the percentage of actual base runners, excluding home runs, who end up scoring”, you added walks and HBP to equation, thereby raising the estimated percentage of baserunners who only get to 1B from 74% to 84%, which again results in an undervaluation of the hit.
Your third mistake is that you tried to estimate the value of a hit. That’s, again, only half the job. You need to estimate the value of a hit compared to an out. You see, the difference between a single and an out isn’t just an extra runner on base, and it isn’t just driving in runners from 2nd or 3rd base – it’s also the extra out. Any time you earn your team an out, you give it an extra 33% of a baser runner (assuming a 330 OBP).
So the 172 extra hits aren’t just 172 extra hits. They’re also 172 non-outs – 172 extra PA’s. Those PA’s, in turn, turn into 57 extra base runners. Those give you an extra 57 PA’s, from which you gain 19 base runners. Then 6. Then 2.
So it’s NOT 172 hits. It’s 172 hits + 84 hits and walks. 256 base runners.
I was promised lasagna.
When I get time . . .
. . . I will try a much more complete examination of the matter using the full run-scoring formulae. I doubt it will be soon enough for this thread to stay fresh, so I will probably start a Fanpost on the topic. I do not disdain what has been said here; I tend to disagree, but I don’t want to assert anything at the top of my lungs till I’ve reviewed further.
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He used UZR this year to defend Velez’s defense.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He uses stats when they support his point and discredits them when they don’t.
He uses larger sample sizes when they support his point and ignores them in favor of SSS when they don’t.
This is nothing new.
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well
what I would say is that his UZR this year has been pretty good, and since he was average last year, saying his D this year has been bad (or even is likely to be bad) has very little basis in fact.
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I agree with you
Renteria’s last 3 years of UZR show him to be about an average defensive shortstop. The thing I took exception with was GRM seeming to say that Renteria is fine because his UZR is average, and I saw that as his UZR this year.
Anyway, I guess the morale of the story is to ignore GRM.
by scotterduder on May 30, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, yeah.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
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"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Renteria still has MUCH better foot work and quicker release.
Renteria has been playing hurt and I think his offense can stay around 280 with some clutch hitting. Watching Uribe play SS has not been impressive: slow release time, bad decisions, bad footwork, and overall inability to make decisions fast enough (ie. getting rid of the ball fast with fast runners, taking your time with slow runners, picking the ball up with his left foot forward). Maybe he’ll grow into the position but SS is not the position to be platoon or use to play with the lineup.
I'm talking about Mountain Dews baby.
I am assuming a chasm
cause I really want there to be one.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Pretty sure the time has passed for Uribe to "grow into" a SS
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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his offense will only stay around 280
if he gets a squeegee and starts cleaning windshields at an on-ramp.
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I AGREE WITH GIANTDONKEY.
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on May 30, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
MANY BOTHANS HAVE DIED
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
THE BOTHANS
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I just found a new poster for my cubicle.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Why thank you.
…
Oh, you mean the image.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You are more than welcome to stop by my desk any day.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Hot off the Snakepit presses!
I imagine Qualls house will be burned down by the time he gets home.
I am Angry and when BattleMoses is angry Mr. Bigglesworth is upset,and when Mr. Bigglesworth is upset people DIE!!!!!!!!!
by BattleMoses on May 30, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions
If you want to rob his house, should be easy to get inside
Door is wide open, since Qualls can’t close anything.
“Can you do me a weird favor without asking any questions?”
“Isn’t that the bedrock upon which our friendship was founded?”
by kishi on May 30, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a terrible closer.
But they are the one that keeps using him there.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
McCoven, Am I Losin' You?
“Stick to McCovey. I’m sure they love you there. Oh, wait. They don’t.”
Don’t ya know that I heard it on the grapevine…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 30, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Fashion Shots By Deb
Makes them both dreamy…..
by Giant_in_la_area on May 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions
Just another... HAAAAHAHAHAHAAA... LAUGHER!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I really hate the horselaugh.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s obnoxious and I wish Kruk would never do it again.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hayter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t like things that make me not like Kruk and that is the biggest one right now!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
HAW HAW HAWWWWW
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
DON’T MAKE ME NOT LIKE YOU JPONRY! YOU WOULDN’T LIKE ME WHEN I DON’T LIKE YOU!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
HAYTER
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I CAN’T SERIOUSLY BE THE ONLY ONE WHO HATES THE HORSELAUGH CAN I?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
We only hear it after wins. How could we hate it?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it is pretty annoying
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
In that case, I apologize for saddling this with a no-pun subthread.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to reing this in before you trot out more bad puns
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Get off your high horse Goofus!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't nag me.
I’m the glue that’s holding this conversation together
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Neigh
Hoof a joke is worse than no joke at all!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I enjoyed the outcome of that game
I’m gonna watch yesterday’s game later tonight.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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IKR
Ishikawa and Whiteside instead of him? WTF
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
The Manager Was Right, Therefore The Manager Is Never Wrong.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
giantsrainman posts have roughly 2000% less effort than they used to. It’s really unfortunate.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Your Bias Yadda Blinded Yadda Yadda
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
He Did Not Deliver, Therefore He Would Not Have Delivered.
If he was going to deliver, Bochy would’ve send him up.
Duh.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That One Time He Delivered Proves Nothing Because He Did Not Deliver This Time
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Remember that time
he hit a game tying PH HR?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That Doesn't Count Because It Doesn't Count
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
How Many Fucking Times Do I Have To Explain It?
If Bowker could’ve gotten a hit there, Bochy would’ve sent him up to hit. You guys are acting like there’s no proof here.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Because You Can See The Future
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Just Look At His Horrible MLB Career Numbers
Ishi and Whiteside have both been better.
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowker career OPS+: 76
Whiteside career OPS+: 73
??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Talking Giants Career
What Whiteside did earlier with other teams is as meaningless as what Torres did earlier with outer teams.
by giantsrainman on May 30, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
how about what Whiteside did in the minors?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL Way To Argue Your Point
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Really?
How about what he did as a Giant last year?
.228/.263/.339
and as a Grizzly last year?
.241/.290/.474
Do you really believe those are invalidated by 23 good games this year?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
JPONRY IT’S A TRAP
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I Hate You.
Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!
Look Over There It's A Shiny Object I'm Right
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
What About Inner Teams?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I can blue. Does that count?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I blue myself.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Speaking of blue
are we ever gonna do that weird “comment children token” thing again?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
*and by we I mean McC as a whole
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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[[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]/
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I forgetted alla bout it.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It was fun
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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Not now.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I Guess Not
what Torres did earlier with outer teams.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Whiteside (just Giants): .243/.283/.398
Bowker: .239/.286/.396
They’re exactly the same.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on May 30, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
“Who’s on first.”
“Naturally. Now you say it.”
“Who’s on first?”
“Naturally.”
“SAME AS YOU! SAME AS YOU!”
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
…So I pick up the ball and throw it to Naturally?
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But what Scott did with other teams is not meaningless?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I know others have responded but
Whiteside’s non giants ML experience is 12 PA with the Orioles in 2005. That’s it.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
GRM is correct then. 12 PA in 2005 is pretty much worthless.
Which is really not the way that statement comes off.
well, including them or not including them makes little difference.
That’s what so amusing about his being insistent that we only look at Giants experience.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Your girlfriend isn’t interested in your point.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Just smack her around a bit, that usually works.
What could go wrong?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
The fact of the matter is you’re saying this AFTER the fact that they both got hits and that Bowker didn’t even get a chance to play. There is no way you know he doesn’t get a hit, its stupid to say with such certainty that he wouldn’t get a hit. And of all people Eli Whiteside’s career numbers do not suggest that he’d be a productive hitter in the ML level considering he’s struggled in AAA to hit.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
One Day I Am Expecting GRM To Come Out And Say
Gotcha guys! I was just goofing around this whole time!
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m just disappointed that he finally stopped trying. But I guess he still gets the reply volume, so….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
There Is Fun In Going Into GRM Insult Mode
I don’t mind feeding a troll in that circumstance. If it fills his diaper for an afternoon, that’s fine by me.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Like other trolls, I ignore it.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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by SFGuy on May 30, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
very, very rec’d. Sock puppet troll FTL.
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
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by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The same reason a six-year-old incessantly tugs at your pantleg: attention.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s his ‘signature’.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I know why you are confining your argument to MLB carrer numbers
Last time you tried to quote minor league numbers, it didn’t work out so well for you. jcb schooled you.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/5/1/1454274/rowand-back-waldis-joaquin-down
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Epic beatdown was epic.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
ugh.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ishikawa and Whiteside instead of him? WTF
Whiteside was a part of the double switch to bring in Wilson, so he bats in that situation no matter what. As for Ishikawa, my best defense of it is this:
Down by two runs in the ninth, a solo home run won’t win the game for you; what is most important is that you not make outs so you get more chances to score. Whether a single or a dinger, it still depends on the people behind that spot in the order. Bowker’s OBP was .264, Ishikawa’s was .333 (SSS alert on both counts, I know). By that rationale – not to say that it is my rationale – Ishikawa is the better choice in that situation.
Now, I think that Bochy was just trying to catch lightning in a bottle and it happened to pay off for him, but the above reasoning miiiiiiight have factored into his decision, if you simplify all the complicated counting stuff to “Ishi’s better at gettin’ on base.”
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Ah, well that's what I get for being in my room for the start of that inning (re: the double switch)
although why not have Bowker come in and move Huff to 1st?
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Molina made the last out of the 9th. Putting Wilson in his spot and bringing in Whiteside for defensive purposes means you are more likely to be able to squeeze an extra inning out of Wilson if necessary without making him have to bat.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
molina was 4 for 6 against qualis with a homer 2 doubles and a single but apparently “was tinkering with a new stance”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
No-I mean
take out Molina-move Buster to C, Huff to 1B, Bower to LF
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No, you want your best defensive catcher behind the plate in extra innings. I can’t speculate on Posey’s defense, as I haven’t seen it this year, but there is no doubt in my mind that Whiteside is your best bet defensively.
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OK, I can see that argument
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What Motivates The Man
Then again…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 30, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
AMAZING win. After Upton’s RBI in the 9th I thought we had zero chance. Hats off to Huff, Posey, Torres, Ishi, and Whiteside.
Hats stay on for Bengie, WellLOLmeyer, Flan, and the most of the bullpen.
devil's advocate incoming
Wellemeyer pitched pretty well today. 6 innings, 2 runs, 3 walks and 7ks? I would take that every damn day from a 5th or even 4th starter. Credit where it’s due.
Yes, yes yes!
"You can always recover from the player you didn't sign. You may never recover from the player you signed at the wrong price." --Billy Beane
"I am not an idiot."--Brian Sabean
by Sabean's_Folly on May 30, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but
Can he do that against a non-hacking team whose season isn’t over in May?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn’t pitch well enough to win, though.
I think it’s just that I don’t like the guy. I don’t like the way he pitches and he just lost me with how bad a couple (most) of his starts have been. I understand he wasn’t bad… I just don’t want to take my hat off for him.
by Uncle Russel on May 30, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s yet to have a good start on the road; that shit doesn’t fly for a team that has enough trouble outside of AT&T to begin with.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
wellemeyers line is LOL
IF you didn’t watch the game and you see it, it looks like he did a great job and kept the giants in the game. If you watched the game, you knew all it was is LOL AT&t and the diamondbacks getting blown away by.. 0-2 fastballs down the middle.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yeah, but are we supposed to ignore the Chase debacle?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 30, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you you morons at Sportsnet Central
IT WAS ONE FUCKING GAME STOP FAWNING OVER BURRELL.
It’s thinking like this that has been ruining this team.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m fairly certain (read:completely sure) they were joking.
by Uncle Russel on May 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have agreed with you, if they had stopped after the highlight.
Then they started talking about how he looked in great shape. He was swinging the bat well. And where he would be put on the big club.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Will Buster Posey start tomorrow against Ubaldo Jimenez? “Oh yeah,” Bochy says.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
OH YEAHHHHHHHH
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
BOCHY LINKED TO KOOL-AID MAN!
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by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have you ever seen the Kool-Aid man and Bochy’s head in the same room at the same time?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
MOLINA JEALOUS OF SKIPPER’S NEW ROUND PAL!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
+1
hahaah
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by Giant Voodoo on May 31, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Cue David Caruso removing sunglasses
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
subject
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
by sanfrankid on May 30, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Buster will single-handedly increase UJ's ERA two fold
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
so Buster is going to get 3 hits off Jimenez, right?
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
That would get some media attention! Maybe.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Yay!
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on May 30, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
extrabaggs
Rohlinger hamstring is not good, Bochy says. Looks like a DL situation.
Will Buster Posey start tomorrow against Ubaldo Jimenez? “Oh yeah,” Bochy says.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions
Time for moar Downs.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
We got Ry Rohl’d
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Lookin’ smooth, Kruk.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
He was being sarcastic about Bochy saying Posey is staying in the lineup.
by CaliforniaBone on May 30, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was pretty obvious that he was joking by both of them laughing at that.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Big props to the Giants defense for giving us a chance to win this game. Some big plays by Mole, Rohlinger (on the relay) and Nate today to keep D’Backs off the bases. :D
Downs can be recalled
unless I am completely mistaken, because of injury
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
yeah, that's true.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Where would they play him though? Mole is doing fine at 2b, does he play SS?
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
I think Downs can play SS in a pinch
but I don’t think he has a lot of reps there
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Versatility!
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
That's garbage!
Garbage!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny, ESPN is channel 28 in NYC.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Downs 2B, Sanchez 3B, Sandoval SS
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Needz moar Bengie
He played there in college
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Don’t mind giving him a shot in the bigs again, he won’t be more than a placeholder for my Colombia hijo anyway.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk looks dapper as fuck.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
“Well I don’t want Fop, goddamnit! I’m a Dapper Dan man.:
Sorry, had to share
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE IT WHEN THE GIANTS WIN BALLGAMES!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I'm not saying I am Pat Burrell
But I had a good feeling about this week at home vs Nats and Dbacks last Sunday after that Oakland game. Quit dragging the pitching staff down, Timmy!
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
Whose house is this?!?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
Great album.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster went 0 for his last 2
I guess that means Bork has to sit him. He’s not ready yet.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
TWSS!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
/her head embedded in the wall
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Imagine if he wasn't hurt!
I'll punch Greg Evigan in the beard if I ever see him!
by NuschlerFace on May 30, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
However, his bat has gone quiet
So the 8th slot will be better for him, and keep Wallhugger on the bench tomorrow or Ubaldo will OWNED him badly swinging at a throw to first.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Ishikawa's XBHs this season.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I guess this series showed us
Mole is good to go.
Buster is good to go.
Rowand and Molina are not good to go.
LOL Bowker, but i still like him.
by Giant_in_la_area on May 30, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
We knew all of this at the end of last season! Except for Mole.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Yeah, Dave, it is funny how having a leadoff hitter who actually gets on base leads to more runs being scored.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
yeah, Bochy can flat-out manage!!!
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
Oh my.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
KRUKOW!
Whiffing on the obvious pick. Bweezy is the choice to make!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
What about Affeldt?
MVP of the game.
For Arizona.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahaha, oh, Jon. “IT’S POSEY, YOU IDIOT.”
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
LOL Miller pick
“IT’S POSEY YOU IDIOT”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Done.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Context???
I was out shopping.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Jon texted Kruk with his pick of the game.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
And that was the whole text message? Awesome.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Yep.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuip thinks Jimenez is going to be a big dud tomorrow.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Last time Ubaldo pitches at AT&T
2.2 innings 6 hits 7 runs 6 ER and the Rox lost 10-2.
Giants – ace killer.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that game
It was when carnie lansford had gone crazy at all the media attacks on him. He told every single one of the hitters to take pitches until you get a strike, and well jiminez walked 8 and got owned.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
But don't you know
He could totally on pace beat Bob Gibson’s epic 1.12 ERA this season
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Wow, his xFIP is 3.58. That’s way higher than I thought it would be.
7.70 K/9, 3.03 BB/9, 1.8 HR/FB% (lol!), BABIP of .226, and a 91.7% strand rate.
Ticking time bomb indeed.
Thing C
Ubaldo vs Timmeh on national TV on Memorial Day...
How could that possibly live up to the hype?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions
Kind of national TV
MLB net doesn’t send their own crew. They will use the Giants (more likely) or the Rox TV feed.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Well, Jon (and, IMO, Orel) notwithstanding, national broadcasters stink on ice.
But the Rox’ do too, so that’s a wash.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
no one's tossing a perfect game?
/East cost media collectively yawn
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
pics
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Pics!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I give all of my pets the same name I give my children
George Foreman Jr.
I have a puppy named Buster too
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
LOL
My beagle is named Madison, because we got him on Draft Day ‘07. Here he is watching yesterday’s game.
They could be Giants...but not really.
tickle tickle!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
D'aww!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
my dog is part-beagle
his bark is the most horrible thing I have ever heard.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/Godzilla sound
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 30, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
no, it's different than baying
I’ve got Bassets. They bay.
Beagles have a horrendous bark. Watched my in laws a few times, and the noise is incredible.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
yeah
that noise sounds like people getting murdered
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
of being around peafowl
and the summer I spent working at a Soylent Green factory in college
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Their cry is that of a very large woman in utter anguish.
“NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 31, 2010 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, we were lucky to get Madison after he was fully trained. He doesn’t bay, but he does still hate being left alone. He follows us everywhere.
They could be Giants...but not really.
the hounds, in general, are pretty pack-y. They need someone or another dog around.
When our dog Sarah died, Winston was inconsolable all day long when we were away. We had to get another dog even though we werent ready.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yep, it’s definitely in their genes (also explains why their bark/sound is so loud) which can be adorable in some instances but exasperating, too. Fortunately, we live pretty close to both Golden Gate Park and Baker Beach and there’s always dogs around, so…it helps. But yeah, Maddy gets anxious anytime he’s left alone.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Yeah, we were lucky to get Madison after he was fully trained. He doesn’t bay, but he does still hate being left alone. He follows us everywhere.
This is even more entertaining if it refers to the pitcher and not the dog.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Don’t leave me!
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I can’t explain it, but it’s a really terrible noise. And when he starts whining and crying if someone leaves the house – oh man.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I feel like I’ve heard them bark before, and that they just sound a lot louder than they should for a small dog, but I can’t be sure of that.
I don’t really want a purebred Beagle. I just want a dog that looks beagley.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
My roommate of 3 years in college had a half beagle half dachsund mix, and it did the howl thing, but generally it was a good dog. He had the long torso with long legs making him look really disproportional.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
his head’s in the game—i like that
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 31, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Left bench?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
That's an interesting position
/TWSS
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Toronto!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I would be on board for any of those choices. Problem is Brian Sabean and Bruce Bochy are running this team.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
Ugh, I’m still pissed at Flannery for sending Rohlinger home.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
if you watch the replay he got hurt on the way to the plate and it caused him to hesitate. He might have scored otherwise.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
If he hadn’t sent him, he wouldn’t have gotten hurt, would he?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No, I was kidding.
But it was still a bad call.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Flannery Is A Coach, Therefore His Decisions Are Unimpeachible
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 30, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Rohlinger Was Out Because The Man In Armor Tagged Him With The Ball
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It wasn’t really that bad of a bad call… with no outs or two outs you might want to be more conservative, but it took a good play to throw him out. Being aggressive doesn’t bother me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
A good play? The throw was terrible – way up the line. And he was still out.
With 1 out and the top of the order coming up, I think it was inexcusable. I hate being aggressive on the basepaths, because it seems like it usually means “giving away outs” and when you’re a team like the Giants, you shouldn’t be doing stuff like that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Good play by the catcher… I do believe if he’s at full speed from third to home he scores.
Regarding aggression on the basepaths, it’s imperative – so long as it’s not stupid. I just don’t think that was a stupid call.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Sending Rohlinger means you are counting on both a bad throw and a bad play by the catcher (or a terrible throw or a terrible play by the catcher). With Torres and Sanchez coming up, it really doesn’t seem like a good play.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Yeah, exactly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
he was out by 10 yards
Flan should have held him, but I couldn’t tell when he pulled up- coming into 3B, no?
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
"with no outs or two outs"
Huh? I think you got this wrong. With 2 outs you should be agressive, with 0 or 1 out, not so much as you can score a run on an out.
I did get that wrong… with no outs you should clearly be more conservative.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I was at the game
we were screaming at Flannery – that was retardedness of the highest order, especially since he had hesistated in the first place as it was a line drive!
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I missed much of the second half of the game due to falling asleep
But I saw that. As soon as I heard Flemming say he was coming home I facepalmed. I knew he was gonna be out with the late jump and how shallow the centerfielder was when he got the ball.
The Giants just can’t resist giving away outs on the basepaths.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I think I have a few pictures like this, too. To be fair, though, my seats were really close.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Wellemeyer is kind of boyish looking. He has very floppy hair.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
*coughwellemeyer/derosacough*
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on May 30, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
and beady little eyes
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL FLOPPY
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 30, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
How about only pitching Wellemeyer at home the rest of the season?
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
Is this idea really that weird? I’m sure it doesn’t happen often… but if it happened, i’d like the move.
by Uncle Russel on May 30, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't the Astros do this with Clemens in his final year with them?
Or was it he just did not travel with them if he was not pitching that series?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
5th starter platoon!
Anyone pitch well on the road?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Matt Cain hits other players.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
3rd-degree concussion.
At BEST!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
And the fans certainly deserved that “F.U. with a tip of his cap”. They were (are) obnoxious
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
The pixels make it look like there’s something up his nose.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
POSEY LINKED TO COCAINE USE ON INTERNET BLOG
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Wins are awesome
I like wins.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 30, 2010 5:15 PM PDT reply actions
The Todd is not impressed with Jimenez
We took down Halladay, we’ll take him down.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
Yeah, if they took down a guy who could throw a perfect game, then they can take down a guy who throws just no-hitters.
SCIENCE
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Obvious Whiteside endorsement deal
Touch of Grey. Do it. They’re already a sponsor.
… with the Dead song playing in the background? That should at least be his walk-up music.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on May 30, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Buster Posey’s swing.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
It is nice to watch.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 30, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
concerned about Buster’s BB rate?!?
by TimLaser and MattyC on May 30, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
Pretty soon
All the Angels will be in the dugout every time they have a walk-off win and just shout, “You the man, [Angel player]!” No crowding the plate, no physical touching.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
I enjoyed this game immensely.
Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.
Refocused on baseball. Sharks hockey: torture.
You must have been watching the Molina parts.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT A GREAT AB
WHEN HE HIT A FLY BALL GAMER GAMY GAMER!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
The Angels hit another walk off home run (Aardsma blew it) and they had a more low key celebration.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
LOL CHAD QUALIS
Nothing more to say.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
extrabaggs
Jeremy Affeldt said hamstring “didn’t hold up as well as I would’ve liked.” DL is possibility for him, too. Will be re-evaluated tomorrow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 5:38 PM PDT reply actions
What are the odds the Giants management forced Affeldt to go out there?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I said at the time . . .
. . . this is not the game situation into which I would bring a guy just coming off several days off and with dubious legs. But then, my hat size is smaller than Bochy’s so he must be right.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
The thing is.. this is SO obvious that no matter how much we joke about these guys truly being fucking idiots… this proved that it’s not really a joke. It’s the damn truth. That was a HORRIBLE decision.
by Uncle Russel on May 30, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the hamstring claim is a smokescreen
Dude has been inconsistent all year. I am betting it’s a shoulder issue.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 30, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
YEAH JOEY TIME MAYBE?
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Imipolex G(erald)!
The magical substance that fuels rockets and inadvertently causes arousal!
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
We are teh BadAss!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
I love how Krukow went with the company line
Saying Molina is better now that he changed his batting stance.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
he wasn't using it on his last at bat
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
It seems that the giants
Are really good at rushing people back fro nagging injuries because “there’s a chance it won’t get aggravated and you’ll be 70% effective!!!”
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
seriously.
fuck.
Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!
best line up
torres CF
sanchez 2B
panda 3B
Huff 1B
Posey C
DeRosa/Burrell
UUUUUUUUribe SS
Schierholtz RF
pitcher
DUBfan4life!!!!
derosa with one arm out in right LOL
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
no
we are going to amputate burrell’s arm off and sew it on derosa!!!
DUBfan4life!!!!
by BayAreaKidd650 on May 30, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
in a dream world where everyone is healthy my ideal line up would be
Torres CF
Franchize 2b
Double down pablo 1b
huff lf
uribe 3b
posey C
renteria SS
schierholtz rf
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Question:
Is it considered bad form here to repeat an earlier post? As seems usual with me, I got it onto the last game thread just as this one opened, and I reckon few saw it. I’d like to repeat it, but am asking first.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Only if you repeat that word you used that is a fancy way of saying ‘a boastful statement’ or whatever it meant. I’ve been killing myself trying to remember that.
If you can relay that in the subject line, I’ll allow a repeat post.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Branky, from the verb "brank".
"Bengie, you seen Buster? I thought he was in here with you."
"Nah, ain’t seen him. Uurrrp. Happen to have a toothpick on ya?"
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
ARG!
No, it was the one based off of a literary character.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Thanks in any event.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Rodomontade
I knew I could do it!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Personally I’d just put the caveat in the subject line that it was already posted earlier, but that you’re reposting. If you’re not gratuitous about it and it’s well-written, no one’s going to attack you for the repitition.
BREAKING NEWS!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Brian Fucking Wilson.
Dude has been good.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
lol rotoworld
Buster Posey: Posey adds three more hits in loss
I guess they saw the giants down 2 runs going into the 9th and were like LOL GAME OVER and posted the article.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Lol MLB.com comments
We need to do the following ASAP: 1. Keep Posey at 1st Permanently and forever 2. Sign Molina and Whiteside to at least a contact through next season (both) 2. Make Torres the everyday CF and lead off hitter 3. Make Huff the everyday LF 4. Get the Panda some Bamboo ASAP
I like that he/she lists 2 twice
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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His second point number 2 seems pretty solid, at least
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's a good plan.
Although I LOL’d about the Whiteside thing since he isn’t arb eligible for 2 more years
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Season MVP thus far?
I’m not going to say Buster Posey, but then again I’m not going to say anything else either..
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
honestly, on the offensive side of the ball, it’s got to be Andres Torres
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
are you saying, on the defensive side, it’s got to be Bengie Molina?
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
by atxgiantsfan on May 30, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribeye for me
Though I just realized that I like the first 6 guys in our lineup for the first time since…oh, 2002?
Torres
Sanchez
Sandoval
Huff
Uribe
Posey
They could be Giants...but not really.
7 and 8
Burrell
Derosa
pitcher
DUBfan4life!!!!
by BayAreaKidd650 on May 30, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d say Bowker-Schierholtz (or DeRosa-Schierholtz, or Rowand-Schierholtz, take your pick).
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I like how you convieniently forgot Molina is in the first 6 of our guys.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
WELL THAT WAS THEN AND THIS IS NOW
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
BORK
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
BAH
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I am sorry, we were looking for "BLACK SHEEP"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
But thanks for being on the show.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Don Pardo, whaddowe have for LicecumFTK?
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
Uribe without a doubt
He’s been the only consistent clutch hitter the entire season. Without him this season we’d probably be at least 5 games under 500 or something diamondback like. Huff has been the silent assassin all season, bringing patience to a line up that has none.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Gotta be Torres
The only reason that Torres has been less “clutch” than Uribe is because he’s the leadoff man and there’s never anyone on base when he’s hitting.
Torres has the highest OBP and BB%. Torres has been doing everything that we were hoping our players would do this year: take more pitches, get more walks, GET ON BASE.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Torres, and it isn't close.
Dude has been very solid at the plate, while playing exceptional outfield defense at multiple positions.
I think in all facets of the game its gotta be Torres, homeboy has been worth 2.1 wins already, I know its wonky cuz of UZR but man he is just so awesome!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on May 31, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow those fanposts got deleted quickly
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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What happened? I wasn’t paying attention to the fanposts.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
“Giants call up Posey to play first” or some such was one of them.
Damnatio memoriae though, so even this post will probably be deleted.
Some newb was just relaying the "news"
Pat Burrell is a Giant, Giants moved West to SF, Willie Mays was born, etc.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on May 30, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Eh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sneak peak?
I'll punch Greg Evigan in the beard if I ever see him!
by NuschlerFace on May 30, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m scared.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/produces enormous cotton swab
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You tease.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Natto’s Amy G?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I found a family photo in which everyone is sporting a massive mullet. It would be perfect
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You didn’t just put Zito’s face on my body, did you?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He put your eyes on Zito’s face on my body.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Once again
My son quiets the doubters.
LOL, people who wanted Bowker to start over him!
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
=(
I was wrong. I will shift my attention to getting Ishi more playing time now.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
/sad face
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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No offense to Bowker, of course
He should obviously be playing over Rowand.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
No-Torres has earned it
and the way this team is constructed (no true leadoff man) Torres should be starting. I’m not fully in the Nate > Bowker camp though
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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That might be the last time I sit anywhere other than the bleachers. My section started at least 10 waves (during a big inning when I was trying to follow the ballgame, of all things), fans filed out in droves in the 7th and 8th, kids were crying and complaining, and the dumb lady behind must’ve been watching a different game from me because I swear everytime a Giant hit a grounder or a pop fly she’d yell “Yes, oh yeeeeah- awww…”.
Other things I heard:
“Why didn’t he catch it? What is wrong with him?” on a ball that bounced 15 yards away from Huff.
“Oh no. Oh GOD NO. Oh my God. Oh Gaaawd” After Posey didn’t come up with the grounder that took a bad hop on him.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
The bleachers at the ’stick were great, but the few times I was in the bleachers at AT&T it was too family friendly for my liking. Though that was about 7 years ago
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends where in the bleachers you sit. In general, closer to LF is tamer than closer to the arcade.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I’ve found this to be generally true
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
In my experience LF was crazier than CF (SSS though-2 games)
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For whatever reason, whenever the Dodgers are in town a lot of their fans sit in center field
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The games I was in the bleachers were for the Rangers
(because I wanted to see Derek Holland) and the Yankees (on Nate’s walk off). And the fans seemed crazier in the Rangers game
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Yeah i was at the Holland game in Lf and it was a tad rowdy
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on May 31, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You can’t stop the wave. You can just be a nonparticipant.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You can’t stop the wave, you can only hope to contain it. A bunch of fans a few sections down seemed to be doing their best to kill it, but the wave eventually broke through
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
First they boo Timmy, now they’re doing the wave…what on earth is happening to Mays Field?
They could be Giants...but not really.
What’s even worse is the crowd today which was massive was even a lot quieter than I imagined. I guess this isn’t Philadelphia where everyone is drunk and yelling, but there does need to be some more noise if you ask me.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Maybe they should allow pot smoking. No more fighting, no more waves. People would be too stoned to do anything. Of course, there would be less noise.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
you’d be suprised how much ganj is consumed in the parking lot at AT&T park.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I remember times at Candlestick Park. One was smoking in the bathroom. I almost was going play a joke and scream “POLICE! HOLD IT!”.
I also remember the early 80s at Oakland Coliseum Arena during Warriors game were the lobby areas were full of smoke and it wasn’t cigarettes.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Whenever we have to walk in to the park by going over the Lefty O’Doul bridgewe always smell pot smoke. I can’t stand that smell, blech!
We smelled at several spots on the walk from the Embarcadero bart station. Also saw some people sporting orange “Let Tim Smoke” t-shirts
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
we smelled it* at several spots
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus they are horrifically ugly.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I saw some guy selling those shirts on the Embarcadero after the game on Thursday.
I also saw one of those ugly FREAK t-shirts that that guy who flipped out at everyone was trying to sell.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Where is the one insulting my wife?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
There it is.
It is amazing how he nailed the height of my wife though.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
A couple years ago I went to an A's-Red Sox game
and after the game some guy asked some other guy if he had any rolling papers. It was funny because a bunch of other fans were arguing
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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I can't believe you
“Thank you for being the New Andres Torres, Andres Torres.”
His career as a Giant has been nothing short of great. When he’s in the game, he always does something positive. He’ll go anywhere in the OF, he’s the closest thing we have to a threat on the bases, he’s been a great leadoff hitter, the man works hard and has been playing great since he’s been here. I admit, seeing some things on fan graphs and baseball reference made me reconsider if he could pull it off again, but he’s been raking. He’s got a fine approach at the plate, he’s been one of the guys that really changed his game a little to adjust better, and, he is really hard on himself when he doesn’t hit well aaannnddd he’s always taking notes and working with Bam Bam and Pablo. So far this year, he’s been the man I wanna see when the game’s on the line with RISP. He’s a great guy and I love him.
You're misinterpreting Grant here
Andres Torres last year was a guy that no one expected to contribute much but who ended up playing really well for us.
Before the year started, a few people were wondering who the ‘new Andres Torres’ would be, that is, the guy who really exceeds our expectations.
Grant was just saying that Andres is that guy, again.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Yes. Before 2009, Torres was just a career minor leaguer who might be suitable as a defensive replacement. Even early in this season, it seemed like his 2009 numbers were just a fluke. But it seems that the guy is here to stay. We love it.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Everyone . . .
. . . who dissed me in 2009 and much of 2010 for stating firmly and continually that Torres was a good and valuable player, please leave a buck in the tip jar on the way out so I can stop working in my so-called retirement years. Thank you and have a nice day; we’ll talk about Aubery Huff another time.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I think you overstate the voracity of the Torres doubters, though I admit I wasn’t here in 2009.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I’m on record multiple times for having said that Torres is a terrible baseball player. I was wrong. That’s cool.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw a comment I made in Spring Training last year when I was strenuously arguing for keeping Andres Torres in the minors.
Whoops!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
The Hives don't
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You get to be right. Something you enjoy far more than money, I suspect.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
The “new” Andres Torres is the one who is good enough to start, but I’ve been a fan of Torres ever since he made the team — I have a problem with making too much of PCL stats, and Torres tore up Iowa the year before he was on the Giants.
The difference is that Torres isn’t getting beat with breaking balls out of the strike zone anymore. Unlike some other center fielders I could name, Torres “learns” from his “previous mistakes” and “changed his approach.”
by Grant Brisbee on May 30, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
While reading this, Rowand just swung and missed at 5 straight sliders low and away in the batting cages.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Wait, if Grant=Sabean
then what is GRM?
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
or "who is GRM"
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
GRM could be an inanimate object for all we know.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
But not like Xanthan
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Nah, GRM can’t be a computer.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It's easier just to accept
that GRM is Pedro Feliz
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
No. It can’t be. Nooooooooo.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't see any other way around it
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
So we’re all GRM?!?!
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Your [Veteran Player] Bias Is Showing
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I'll take Sock Puppets for $500, Trebek
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions
No, no, no. Grant has a problem that causes him to make too much of PCL stats. Sabean has a problem with the practice of making too much of PCL stats. Opposites.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
TORRES WILL NEVER START IN CF OVER ROWAND.
POSEY REPLACING NATE MAKES THIS LINEUP WORSE.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
You got it wrong it should be......
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Torres Will Never Start In CF Over Rowand. Posey Replacing Nate Makes This Lineup Worse.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
by SFGuy on May 30, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your Anti Rowand Bias Is Showing
also rec’d
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
He will. And it doesn’t
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe this is chasm
SFGuy is mocking GRM
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I still maintain that I'm right on the second point
Though Posey is making me look dumb, as is Aubrey Huff’s adequate LF defense.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
LOL SUNDAY NIGHT BASEBALL
Twins fans keep falling out of the stands onto the field trying to get foul balls, how philadelphian.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Stadium flaw. Knock it down and rebuild
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Boomer and Fat Kruk break down Timmy vs. Baldy
http://www.fanfeedr.com/mlb/2010/05/31/bbtn-jimenez-vs-lincecum
They could be Giants...but not really.
Props to Ishi
Clutch hit. Also Nate didn’t hit much, but geez, why does anyone run on him?
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
Probably for the same reason that Rohlinger got sent home today. Lapse in judgement
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLARS
Kruk and Kuip talking about having a Dutch Heritage Night! SUCK IT LUTEFISKERS!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
Everybody brings blankets to the game and all are encouraged to fart in them.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
if you wear a wetsuit you can pee in it
for information purposes only. Results may vary.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
Fleming?
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Kuiper, apparently
and most definitely NOT Lars!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Whenever you think we have it rough
From AZSnakePit comments:
And when our starters deliver a quality start
The Diamondbacks are 9-13.
“We defy augury” — Hamlet
by Jim McLennan on May 30, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Format fail
You can interpret it, I think
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Did you leave a thank you note?
We should. They’ve been such lovely guests.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
lol the clubs lead the league with 36 quality starts and are 3 games below .500 LOLOLOL
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
…Do you mean the Cubs?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
A terrible bullpen is right up there in the list of the most frustrating things a baseball fan could have to deal with
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I love my son
I was just watching the post-game interview with Amy G:
Yeah, I just want to get on base, to be honest with you. I try to get on, I try to score runs. I just want to be patient, and try to get a good pitch to hit.
Andres, you’re everything that’s been going right this year.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Player use thoughts
This really should be a FanPost, but I’m tired from working in the garden.
It is well-demonstrated that to give what he has, a man must bat at least half time, preferably 2/3 or more. Consider, then, the following “rotation” set on a six-day basis (where “x” is “has the day off”):
Player : Day # 1 2 3 4 5 6
Torres CF x CF CF RF CF = 5/6
Schierholtz RF RF RF RF x RF = 5/6
Rowand LF CF x LF CF x = 4/6
Bowker x LF LF x LF LF = 4/6
Uribe 3B 2B SS x 2B SS = 5/6
Renteria SS SS x SS SS x = 4/6
FSanchez 2B x 2B 2B x 2B = 4/6
Sandoval x 3B 3B 3B 3B 3B = 5/6
Huff 1B 1B 1B 1B 1B x = 5/6
Posey C C x C C 1B = 5/6
Whiteside x x C x x C = 2/6
Only Whiteside is shorted adequate play time, and with him it’s not his bat that’s wanted anyway. The best players get 5/6 time, the rest (except Whiteside) 2/3 time. Handedness platooning is not considered here (in part because it’s not usually a good idea), but clearly Rowand’s and Bowker’s days could be juggled to some extent as might be appropriate.
Not shown are two more reserve players, an outfielder and a left-side utility guy like Rohlinger, who get very little use and are for insurance in case of injuries. (The “day-off” players are the late-inning pinch hitters.)
Everyone gets used, the best get used the most, and even the defensive uses are about right.
All that’s needed is to excise Molina cancer (and, I suppose, Bochean).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I approve of the lack of Molina in this lineup, and the notion of regular rest for all our starters. If you’re signing players like DeRosa and Uribe, you should be aspiring for this anyway.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
This looks good
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Also, if anyone's interested
You can watch Burrell’s dinger:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=8sbBMyZII7_2UQyCMBCZo5L5uTzAc3Gr
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Whoops, that link is wrong
But you can see the Burrell dinger in the related videos section right below.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
so speaking of aaron rowand
can we not see him again?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
ROWAND IS A GAMER AND HE MUST BE IN THE LINEUP
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
He is MADE
to be a Richmond Flying Squirrel!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s just the series in Florida that’s affecting my judgement, but I’d be ok with Rowand in a bench/platoon situation.
They could be Giants...but not really.
me too
but I understood the spreadsheet nerb consensus to be that he doesn’t really have splits that make that work. Although he’s a righty, and it would keep him on the bench more.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly with the Giants
and the starters they intend to put on the field, this is often the case.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions
/rowand see’s 3 pitches in 3 at bats from jiminez
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
lol
You think he can catch up to Jimenez’s stuff?
It’ll be 9 pitches, 9 swinging strikes.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
He’ll be starting.
BOOK IT.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Any time I see 'book it', I think Urban
And any time I think Urban, I can only think…
I know this team. I know its needs. I know the way the organization thinks. I know that Pat Burrell is not going to be a Giant
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
It's a shame how little that man knows about baseball.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Well, he isn’t a Giant (yet)
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
Yo!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Look!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Listen!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Ice is back with his brand new invention!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a Zelda joke, but Vanilla Ice was playing in my head.
Needz moar collaboration.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
The Zelda joke flew over my head, tbh.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
(DOT)
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
/thumbsup
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I like
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I got tickets for tomorrow.
Also, in my OOTP game the Yankees traded me Mariano Rivera for WeLOLemeyer; I was all excited because he’s a Type A FA… and he’s gotten shelled twice now so I’m afraid I got robbed. Then again at least I don’t have Welly any more.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You better pray for FPOMing free-swinging rockies.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
A free-swinging Dinger…oh wait, bad images…
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
BECAUSE MINNESOTA IS THE LAND OF CHRISTMAS
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Closest to north pole!
(not really)
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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I am sure you are referring to a Polish man who lives in the northern part of the state.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
he's not really Polish anymore
too much interbreeding with the rest of the population.
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He’s a Norse Pole.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
thanks, I'll be here all week
and the week after, I’m sure.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
OT: Pokemonz
I would be greatly appreciative if Elvis Andrus would steal one freaking base tonight.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I hate it that every time this happens I think somebody is actually talking about Pokemon.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of:
What y’all think of the black/white legendaries?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Airplane turbines for butts
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That just helps increase speed.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the black colored legendary looks kinda cool.
Its just another gundam like pokemon though.
The white colored one looks dumb.
And both of them look like they have rocket drills shoved up their asses.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I basically agree with this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I can usually strike right to the heart of issues.
I am not really a pokemon player though.
I played the DS ones for a bit. Enjoyed it but never got too into it. And I found a pokemon ranger game at a movie theatre. Still have not finished playing it. Enjoyed that more then I thought I would, but most of it was for the unintentional lawls.
“Follow this Staryu into the basement, and touch it with your stylus”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
That sounds like pretty normal Staryu activity.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
“Pokemon rangers transmit their feelings to wild pokemon, then they can use their strengths!”
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
OH SNAP
That is the best description I have heard for them yet.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I feel like a lot of the fifth-gen designs they’ve put out have been fairly generic.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Look for the "z"
That’s how I differentiate.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Oh, and . . .
. . . let’s not let the Flannery issue go too quickly. As has been noted already, but deserves more than just noting, Flannery has from Day One been an utterly terrible third-base coach. He is, I gather, one of the nicest, sweetest guys in the game, but damn it, Jim, he’s not a good coach. G’s fans should be counting their lucky stars that that was the first notable disaster in judgement so far this year. But with Bochy, either friendship trumps talent, or he really doesn’t see the issues.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
He seems like one of those third-base coaches who wants too badly to be the “story”, by being AGGRESSIVE! and RISK-TAKING!!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I remember a bonehead play in 2008 where he sent Aurilia
Not fun
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I think he’s just overly excitable. He’s usually two-thirds of the way down the line when someone’s scoring from first.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Something I’ve wondered about:
With two outs at least, isn’t the break-even point for sending the runner relatively low? I mean, even if you have only a 35% chance of scoring the run, isn’t that probably about the same odds as subsequent batters have of driving him in? Even accounting for the fact that you may deprive yourself of more than one run, I’d imagine that even a 50-50 chance of scoring the runner with 2 outs makes it worth it.
Anyone ever seen any studies on this?
Listen, it isn't a blind guess
all other things being equal, if the runner reaches third base before the outfielder gets the ball, he will score. Okay that is baseline. Now you factor in how strong is the arm, how deep is the outfielder, which way is he moving, and how fast is the runner. That is where the coach’s skill and knowledge base come into play. If you’re at the park and have a database handy, you can do as well as Flannery. Of course, you have to do some homework before the ball is hit, and with two out, you accept longer odds, as measured in steps. An outfielder with a weak arm is worth a step; if he is moving away from the plate, that is worth a step, etc. An offline throw will be worth two or three steps. Rohlinger tried to score with less than two out when the outfielder had the ball and was moving directly toward the plate, before Rolly reached third base. Average speed, average to good arm. Result: Dead suicide. The formula would predict he would be out by three steps. The throw was off line, so he was out by one step. It’s not that hard. … really if you just watch the timing of the catch and the runner touching third, you are most of the way there.
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
How many steps is pulling your hamstring worth?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't be silly.
Only players over 30 pull hammies. I read it here.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Standard run expectation with a runner on third, two out is 0.387 runs.
Standard run expectation with bases empty, two out is 0.117 runs.
So sending successfully is a gain of (1+0.117-0.387)=.730 runs over holding him at third, but having him get called out is a loss of 0.387 runs – hence the breakeven point is 35% (i.e. if you think the runner will be safe 35% of the time or more, you should send him)
Similarly, the breakeven point in other spots is:
0 Outs 1 Outs 2 Outs
xx3 94.20% 73.39% 34.65%
1×3 96.45% 75.04% 43.01%
x23 90.64% 81.32% 47.17%
123 90.26% 78.67% 55.59%
(note this doesn’t take into account the back runner advancing, which would lower the breakeven point by a few %; nor does it take into account the standard of the batter on deck – bad batters obviously lower the breakeven point; it also doesn’t take into account the fact that I’m always getting basic maths wrong)
by sarf_london_niner on May 31, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it was the first notable disaster.
I seem to recall him sending Panda to a sure put out at the plate earlier this season. I do not remember if they won that game or not though.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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It’s not his first disaster in judgment this year, but your point basically stands at this point.
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During yesterday’s game (I think), I saw a Giants jersey that had the name KIM on it and immediately thought of Wave ’em In Wendell.
IT WAS A SIGN
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Are you sure it wasn’t JCB in a customized KIM (Batiste) jersey?
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Wendell Kim was #20 and the jersey was #20!
Whoever owns that jersey is a fantastic human being.
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I actually just checked the latest Wendell Kim news on the Internet to see if he was number 20 like on that jersey.
THE OFFICIAL WENDELL KIM WEBSITE
Last updated in 2003.
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epic chad qualis action taking place on SNB
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
What’s SNB?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Two and a half back from the Pads
I keep walking away, and they keep pulling me right back in.
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on May 30, 2010 8:16 PM PDT reply actions
wow joe mauer is fucking good
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
he really, really is
If the Giants had drafted him, they’d probably have moved him to 1B, huh?
hmm
he’s too tall to play catcher
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Bengie is much better and has more veteran savvy and is a gamer.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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plus his large ass and body forces the umpire to back up off the plate therefore making the strike zone bigger for his pitchers.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
and WAY too tired!
Giants to install napping nook beneath home plate for between-pitch cat naps.
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by natteringnabob on May 30, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh. From Baggs.
Right-handed prospect Henry Sosa is serving a two-game suspension at Fresno for an undisclosed violation of team rules, club officials said.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 8:19 PM PDT reply actions
Perhaps . . .
. . . he was heard to wonder aloud why Bautista and Casilla are where they are while he’s where he is?
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He did not throw a fastball down the middle?
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Fixed.
He did not throw a fastball down the middle eighteen inches away from the zone?
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He took a walk.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: last out for the twins game
knee burger
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
by slackersphere17 on May 30, 2010 8:20 PM PDT reply actions
he did
they show part of the clip that showed Hudson’s glove hitting Span in the package
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And when the camera came back to him later he had that kinda half smile half cry look on his face that guys get when that happens.
yeah
although I don’t think you get the full understanding unless you’ve got them.
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Yeah, what a crazy collision
looks like Hudson took the brunt of it on his knee. At the same time, Hudson’s glove hit span in his “Gentleman’s region”
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I just happened to notice . . .
. . . that roughly 1/6 of all Giants plate appearances this season have been by guys who should never have even been on the roster. OK, a few go for when both FSanchez and Renteria were simultaneously unavailable, but that’s not many all told. Flabbergasting.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
This comment on the opposing teams GDT made me laugh
Can we us the F word?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions
Flame.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 31, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I was on BucsDugout the other day
and there was a fanpost about swearing in the GDT’s. The OP was against it. Somehow I don’t think that would be well received here.
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Does being flamed into oblivion count as a “warm” reception?
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Probably not
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Fail
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Can we "us" the F word?
I’d say the 2010 Dbacks are fucked, yeah.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Brian Sabean era record?
4 young players in the starting lineup?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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OT: Twins game on espn
Did anyone see the block mauer made in the 9th with runners on 3rd and 2nd and one out? That was ridiculous, bengie molina would have to retire if he even attempted that play.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
So when you add the best catching prospect in baseball (Posey's better than Wieters)
with the 2nd best starting pitching prospect in baseball
I think you are guaranteed atleast the wildcard
Man SF is good
by GobbleforCyoung on May 30, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions
Catcher?
Posey’s not a catcher
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Probably not
Wieters is insane.
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and plays on a team so bad, he rarely gets a good pitch to hit.
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Carlos Santana is STARING INTO THE FUTURE RIGHT NOW.
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Jesus Montero sinks in oobleck.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
The Blanks are hardly representative.
I mean – they’ll do for now, but when he pastes Kershaw and that big di – er, Richards – then I know I’ll feel better.
And you all can too.
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by victor frankenstein on May 31, 2010 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions
that doesn't make much sense
Billy Butler is on a bad team so by that theory he must be the best hitter of all time being 2nd in the AL in batting average
by GobbleforCyoung on May 30, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
my point, yes
I liked the Posey pick, I love his minor-league performance, but Wieters seems better.
He has been a bit of a disappointment in the majors so far, but I’m pretty sure he will be kicking ass and taking names soon enough.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think wieters is doing fine considering the division he plays in and the ridiculous lebron james type hype around him on a horrible team.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I wouldn't call it a disappointment at all.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/5/25/1486699/2010-catcher-defense-rankings-as
Second best defensive catcher in the major leagues. With that offensive upside? YOWZA.
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Bengie Molina: #74 of 77 on defense
I can’t say I am surprised.
Have we signed his extension yet?
I’m not disappointed. He doesn’t quite look like he’ll be as good as Mauer with the bat, but holy hannah, Mauer is the freaking gold standard at the position.
But he’s Joe Mauer with power
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s Joe Mauer with similar power
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
to be fair
the Mauer with Power moniker came before Joe went nuts with HR last year.
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly Posey is better
He’s a career 667 BA hitter in the majors vs just 277 for Wieters.
They aren’t even comparable.
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d'oh
still, he’s 30 points higher!
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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heh
too literal tonight…I wondered what his mental state had to do with him being a better hitter.
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scroll up a little, see #2 defensive catcher in all of baseball. That is super super elite status with his power potential.
So yes, I still believe matt wieters is the better prospect between the two. Posey has time to prove me wrong, but as of this minute, Matt Wieters is still a better prospect at catcher.
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I think he's a good prospect
You can’t qualify defensive metrics anyway, especially for catchers.
I believe Miguel Olivo is the top rated defensive catcher according to fangraphs.
As a Royals fan thats not only a joke, its insulting. I think Posey is a better hitter than Wieters… Posey is a great player I can’t wait to see what he does for SF
by GobbleforCyoung on May 30, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey is a great player I can’t wait to see what he does for SF
I think we can all agree on this.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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of course
Matt Wieters is still a better prospect at catcher
Yes, but Posey can play two positions! Where’s the “versatility for wildcat offense” column in your spreadsheet?
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, Pooholes had a game, eh?
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MY POKEMONZ
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I feel like he owes us three dingerz for the sub-Albert May he’s had.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Yeah.
But its games like this (and the week he has had) that makes him worth that no. 1 overall pick.
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IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
lol pujols is always legit, holliday on the other hand needs to stop sucking and step it up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I wish I’d played Pokemonz earlier. It must have been so much fun to have Barry Bonds on one’s team.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I imaging there were some years were simply having him on your team
would mean you were gonna finish in at least the top 5 of your league.
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LOL Wow the guys at Snakepit seemed to have lost it.
http://www.azsnakepit.com/2010/5/30/1494261/eye-on-the-dbacks
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in all fairness
if I have to watch that team two years in a row, I’d probably fucking go apeshit too
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That’s bunk.
…
Aubrey Huff has six home runs, not four.
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I have no idea what that post is trying to get across.
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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
/splutter
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 31, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
I haven’t seen DbacksSkins around here in a while
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Detente blew down in dewind. They've regrouped around their wholesomeness.
As if that can save them, heh heh heh…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 31, 2010 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL this is awesome!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 31, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
File under "U,"
for “Um… what?”
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
tl:dr
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, how the heck did David Huff not get a concussion on that line drive?
Clearly, A-Rod’s bat speed is way down this year
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Huff's ball went into right field=deflection; acute angle of incidence; no injury
Kiroda of the Dodgers hit last year: the ball bounced back toward the dugout: high angle collision. He got a concussion.
its all in the angle of incidence and conservation of momentum.
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I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
Jose Bautista has 16 homers this year? wow
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corey hart and ty wiggington have 12 home runs as well.. crazier stuff has happend i suppose.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Crazier stuff has happened. I mean, some people wear sunglasses at night!
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s so they can so they can see.
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Corey Hart scares me
as a guy Sabes will overpay to get
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/facepalm
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100530/NEWS/100539983/1057/SPORTS0908?p=all&tc=pgall
"He doesn’t get it done easily. That delivery takes effort. You can call him Freak if you want. You can say his father taught him. But he has a violent delivery and he’s not a big man. And his velocity is down."
"Lincecum wasn’t getting as many outs with his changeup so he goes back to his power stuff which is what got him up here in the first place. But it’s anything but power right now. His fastball is in the low 90s. We’ve seen the best of Tim Lincecum."
They could be Giants...but not really.
Christ.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
at a Cal game earlier this year
one of the big guys bunted (Cal’s coach LOVES bunting) and a fastball zoomed into the press box like it was going to kill someone, and my wife yelled “Jesus!”.
And a douchebag scout next to us said “Yes?”.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
racis
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 1, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
This one out-Ratto’s Ratto:
And by the way, what’s with this "Timmy" business? It makes Lincecum sound like a spaniel.
They could be Giants...but not really.
He’s a grown man. We should be calling him Timothy
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Mr. Lincecum, NY Times style.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Big Time Timmy Jim.
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He should put on a Towlie.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
When I think breaking news and insider connections, I think of the Press Democrat.
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DFA
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This is dumb
But Tim has been extremely worrying. If he gets hit again tomorrow, I’ll officially be very worried.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
lowell cohn
has been an idiot for many years…
LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
To be honest, I’m a lot more worried about Pablo than I am about Timmy
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
if Santa Rosa is worried, I'm worried
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
Me too
If for no other reason than if Lincecum slumps then Cain, Zito, and Dirty can shoulder the load. If Sandoval slumps then were relient on Posey, and while I love Posey, he’s not a ML #3 hitter quite yet.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Wow that's alotta fail
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K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I think it’s cool that they just let the dog chill in the clubhouse
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Time for another installment of your favorite Fun with Giants Facebook!
Jeremy Krepismann
lol Roy Oswalt, if we eever tried to trade for him i’d just quit being a giants fan, thats probably the worst move they could make
Timothy Pueyo
If they keep winning I wonder what The Razor will have to say to Sabean? I’m sorry?
Matt Simin
Wellemeyer = a young George Washington
What does this mean?
Kurt Brandli
Im just glad they put torres in leadoff and moved rowand out of there (though i would like to not see rowand in the lineup) they need to keep Torres and Schierholtz in the outfeild together, huff looks decent out there but i hope he doesnt stay out there. Wouldnt mind seeing burris at short and batting second with sanchez batting 3rd. Now posey … See Moredid great but just remember it is against arizona and their pitching staff isnt great. I still like Molina and Whiteside as the 2 catches because they both do a great job calling a game (and the hitting will get better). We do need a big bat but the question is whoes out there? i wouldnt mind adrian gonzalez heck even Mark reynolds would be nice. Rowand strikes out to much and its getting annoying. Still great win guys now lets see what we can do against colorado.
WE SHOULD GET THAT GONZALES GUY!
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
EVEN MARK REYNOLDS WOULD BE NICE!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
AARON ROWAND STRIKES OUT TOO MUCH. CAN WE GET MARK REYNOLDS?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Wellemeyer = a young George Washington
He has 30 dicks?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
30 GODDAMN dicks
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
let's call him Woody
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL MANNYB
LOL HITTING WILL GET BETTER
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
And what do they think about the DeRosa news? (Lenthy Fail Ahead)
Adrian Reynolds
DeWasteofMoney, DeDamaged Goods, DeBustus
DeWITTY!
Romarico Timonera Gutierrez
Is it too early to call up Pat “The Bat” Burrell?
James Hutchinson
It should be duly noted that DeRosa has a paltry career slugging percentage of .397 against right-handed pitchers.
NOTED, DULY
Marlon Lockdown Amedee
GIANTS ROCK HARDER THAN A GUNS N ROSES CONCERT!! UP NEXT WHOOP THAT ROCKIE ASSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Is it 1993?
Drew Fiock
bochy said burrell is on a 10 day tryout with the grizzlies, hopefully he does well and maybe we could offer up rowand as trade bate for a solid utility infielder, but thats just what i think.
Maybe someone like a Kevin Frandsen?
Justin Douglas Hushbeck
should trade pablo for a proven hitter, he swings out of his ass every AB
Bondslegend is not gonna like this.
James Horgan
haterr lol only reason reds are good because of the giants old manager. dustyy :)
Drew Fiock
whiteside has been very solid as of late, bochy is talking bout splitting molina and whiteside 50/50 on playin time, to rest molina’s heavy legs. and if you all dont remember posey can play anywhere, gold glove potential
VERSATILITY
And let’s end back with Justin defending his earlier statement
Justin Douglas Hushbeck
jesus u guys are all over pablo’s nuts after one season that was only 25 homers and 90 RBIs. you guys act like hes ablert pujols or something. and timmy has has more than just one good season you retards.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
ablert
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Aubrey!
By now, you probably know Aubrey Huff is a free-wheeling kind of guy. Here’s his response when asked how he’d prepare to face Ubaldo Jimenez:
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
by GiantPain on May 30, 2010 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
ha ha ha ha
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
he passes out after only 6 beers? What a light weight.
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He didn’t say what size.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Maybe it’s six of the liter-size glasses of beer I had in Munich.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Agreed. Litre for the win!
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The Hofbrauhaus?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
yes!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, that was my first experience drinking in large quantities, and we were only there for 30 minutes. I slept well that night.
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I remember vividly that half of our party didn’t pee at the restaurant before leaving and so there was a mad dash to find a bathroom about 10 minutes after!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Reference for everybody else:
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Note the fill line on the glass on the right. In Germany, those are required by law on all drinking glasses. And they have to be transparent.
They take their beer EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Oktoberfest starts in May.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Ah, that’s what that is.
One of my roommates last year came back with a couple steins from Germany. And looked pretty much exactly like the ones you posted.
You can only serve beer in metal steins if they are requested (and usually) provided by the patrons.
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Also if any of our teenaged posters here (age 16 or older) were in Germany they could have the beer..
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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I was 18 when that photo was taken. So yeah. The 16 year-old girls from Cincinatti on our tour were all about it.
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Ah, for the good old days . . .
. . . when the drinking age in New York state was 18, and the general rule was “If you can look over the top of the bar, you’re old enough.”
At a beverage dispensary in Troy, NY, more years ago than I care to remember, in which establishment a number of us had been familiars for a year and a half, the bartender one evening asked us what we were celebrating (as we obviously were); he was unfazed by our reply: “His”—we pointing at one of us—“18th birthday.”
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I didn’t know the drinking age in Germany was that low.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
While looking it up, I was surprised to see in France, it’s 18.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Officially. Kids drink wine at dinner with their family way younger, though. Like, 12.
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I like the UK: age 5 with parents permission.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Buh.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Officially, you can drink beer or wine at 14 with adult supervision, you can drink beer or wine by yourself at 16, and you can drink hard liquor at 18. That’s the case in most Western European countries, actually.
But yeah, it’s pretty common practice for kids to sip a little wine at family meals. It’s not a big deal.
They could be Giants...but not really.
The United States is notoriously repressive about alcohol. Whether or not that works to our detriment is a matter for debate.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Isn’t the US among the highest alcohol abuse in the world?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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I’d have a hard time believing that the US > the Scandinavian countries or Russia.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Russia has a huge problem with alcoholism in the post-Soviet era, from what I understand.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
When your nation’s most popular hobby is taking Vodka shots until you pass out, I’d call that a problem.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, absolutely. I think the Soviet system strictly curtailed the production and distribution of vodka and other hard liquors. With a (more or less) market economy, obviously, that’s no longer the case.
Part of the problem is that Northern Europeans tend to drink hard liquors and they tend towards binge consumption. It’s a very real problem in Scandinavia, Russia, even the UK.
They could be Giants...but not really.
You know what else is a problem in the UK? Glassing. Yikes.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
It is interesting . . .
. . . that in countries where fermented beverages (wine, beer) are the drink of preference, alcoholism is not a serious problem, whereas in nations where distilled beverages (whiskies) are the norm, it is.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
In times of war, wine and beer sales fall and hard liquor sales rise.
Distilled spirits are cheaper, and it’s easier to abuse.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I grew up in a bunch of different countries so the different attitudes toward alcohol fascinate me. We lived in Spain where wine was served more often than water, juice or sodas; we lived in Sweden where you needed a special license and be within a certain monthly quota to purchase alchohol; and we lived in the Philippines where certain shows like “Cheers” weren’t aired because they were set in a bar.
They could be Giants...but not really.
The Philippines: Where nobody knows your name.
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LOL
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 31, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Even in the US, there is some exceptions: http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/youthissues/1092767630.html
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Geez, and I don’t even know what beer smells like.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this an age thing?
Or just a desire to not have beer (totally understandable)
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Part of it is that I’ve never been around anyone who drinks at all, the other part is that I just don’t care for drinking. It’s just strange because that’s the same case with my kid brother and he knows what it smells like.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah
Well imho you are not missing much
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Eh, that’s what everyone I know tells me. I guess I’ll be exposed to it a lot more in college, but I’ll probably keep the same attitude toward drinking.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
PEOPLE WILL TRY TO FORCE YOU TO DRINK AND YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM NO OR YOU WILL DIE OF ALCOHOL POISONING.
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LOL
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
There's drinking and there's drinking.
If, by “drinking” you mean imbibing mind-altering substances for the sake of the mind alteration, that is beyond silly into dangerous.
On the other hand, there are a great many people to whom inebriation is a stranger who find the sensory pleasures from good beer, good wine, and good liquor civilized and desireable.
You first and above all want to be sure of the distinction. Then you can consider a cautious approach to the second.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Yeah, I don’t think I’ll ever be interested in doing the former. The latter, I’m still on the fence on.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s sort of something you grow into. You experiment, you hate most stuff, and in time your palette gets a bit more sensitive and you find more flavors you like. Unless you shut yourself off from it completely (which is a totally reasonable course), it’s something that happens by itself.
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Ah, I see.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
However, I will say that bacon vodka sounds absolutely disgusting.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Most "novelty" drinks are.
They’re essentially alcohol for people who want alcohol but don’t like it.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I have never had Bacon
but I love me some Vodka
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I honestly can’t stand the taste of any alcoholic drink except wine, whether it is hard liquor, a mixed drink, or beer. I just can’t get it down.
Wine tasting in Napa was like, the greatest thing ever.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Have fun in college!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
College is gonna be hella awkward.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially with me following you around everywhere.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
No, that would make it hella creepy.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL NORCAL
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Coming from someone who has decided to not drink at all until 21, it’s a little weird not drinking at parties, and makes going to frats almost completely pointless. However, not having to deal with hangovers, drunken hookups, puke-covered clothing, or making a complete fool out of yourself is pretty awesome.
Also, just not going to parties means more sleep. Which is like the best thing ever.
Yeah, sometimes I feel left out not playing bp or king’s cup, or going to the Row and joining in on the around the world fun. But then I look to my friends who have done some pretty bad stuff while wasted, and I don’t feel like I could handle myself while drunk.
And if you have good friends, they will respect your decision. You’ll get some ribbing from them, some, “Aww, come on, just try a little bit!” But no real pressure. Just don’t expect a whole lot of people to also abstain from drinking, as most people will have at least one beer at some point during freshman year.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
Yeah, Mills (where I’m going this fall) has a really quiet campus with not a lot of parties (or so I hear), so thankfully I won’t feel like I’m missing out on a lot.
And I am expecting some ribbing, but nothing more than what I’m already used to. But, eh, I’ll get used to it all eventually.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Turning 21 was fantastic because it was suddenly easier to find people who would rather go to a bar and have a drink or two rather than just sit in the dorm and do shots until they blacked out.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
You should probably have an easier go of it than me, then. USC is kind of notorious for its Greek life.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
my in-laws recently moved to Chico
and while walking past the Bear, my nephew asked “What’s that smell?”. My bro-in-law replied: “College, son.”
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve got a picture like that too.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
All I remember is the singing. Oh, so much singing…
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like him and Burrell could somehow be a riot together.
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“On the next Pat the Bat and Aubrey show on Sirius/XM satellite radio…..”
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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“…we talk goatees and farts. And then we take your calls…about goatees and farts.”
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
And Optimus Prime.
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“How would Optimus Prime look with a goatee? I know this is the radio, but I drew a few thumbnails.”
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“Call in and give us your best Transformers sound effect. If it sounds like farting, bonus points.”
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What a champ.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool
I’ll do the same, minus the “hit”
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahahaha. I’m beginning to like this Aubrey dude.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Question from a Jays fan
Hi All: Can anyone tell me why the Giants let Fred Lewis go for $75,000? So far he has been very impressive in T.O. Hitting 288, batting leadoff, played great center field and has a couple of outfield assists. Thanks for the info.
http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-giants&tid=120733
They could be Giants...but not really.
by esseffgeez on May 30, 2010 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL US
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
we have a secret
it turns out that sometimes, but not always, Brian Sabean is an idiot
This is one of those open secrets, right? Like about Anderson Cooper?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
is the British Pound where they keep the English dogs?
I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my romosexuals flaming..
So the whole island?
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by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No
The English Pound is what they do to the English Dongs.
GOODNIGHT, EVERYBODY!
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Indeed
Maybe he just need a change, as some posters have said. He has played left and center, with no errors, great speed, and at least two game saving catches, that Vernon Wells would never have got.
I liked him from the moment he go to T.O. The Jays had no speed at all, and just having him in the leadoff spot, has completely changed this team. Never mind his bat. I believe he is hitting something like .378 in the last 10 games or so.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I still can't believe that even after Fred hit well for TOR
The Giants didn’t even bother getting a player back for him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
see above
We got $75k, which covers roughly fifteen minutes of Renteria sitting on the bench.
Yeah, I know, that was my point.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was commiserating
But then I like OBP. Maybe it gives Sabean hives or flashbacks or something.
Flashbacks about hives.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
my grandfather was a beekeeper
As a result, I have always really liked bees.
Perhaps this is why I wanted to keep Lewis, and Sabean wanted to dump him for peanuts.
COVERED IN BEES!
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You're covered in Bees!
Love Dressed to Kill
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
(I think it’s Glorious, but good on ya.)
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
...you may be right.
Either way I want to tell my story of finding Dressed to Kill at a Goodwill for 5 bucks.
That’s it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Dressed to Kill is still his best work. And was filmed in San Francisco, which makes it even better.
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And it has the french encore.
Yeah it’s a terrific show.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I saw him at the Arena a few months ago; he started off by saying “Thank you Bay Area for my career!”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on May 31, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
BEADS.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Crash's not on board.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Go buy us some bees!
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Sabean and the Hives
http://www.metrolyrics.com/try-it-again-lyrics-hives.html
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
plus don't forget we got that warm bucket of spit.
it all goes into the equation.
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WTF
All the Giant’s got for Fred Lewis was 75K?!
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 30, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry . . .
. . . to be the wet blanket here, but Lewis in 2010 is producing worse than he did in 2007 or 2008, and not tons better than in 2009. It is barely passable numbers for a defensively excellent center fielder, which—anecdotal remarks notwithstanding—I cannot believe even his most ardent supporters would claim he is. Annoying things, facts . . . .
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not worse, right in line
wOBA
2007 MLB .354
2008 MLB .348
2009 MLB .327
2010 MLB .350
He’s a decent hitter for a guy who can kinda hold down CF, and always has been. Compare to Rajai Davis’s bat for what a truly excellent defensive CF can put up instead.
Everyone . . .
. . . has their own preferred metric. For mine:
2007 : 868
2008 : 839
2009 : 715
2010 : 785
(Think of the numbers as the likely seasonal runs scored by a lineup comprising nine closes of the man.)
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I have no least idea.
Frankly, I pay little attention to most new metrics, especially those based on linear weights. If you want to see how accurate the TOP is or isn’t when applied to actual stats from real teams, look here.
You can find a larger discussion of such formulae here.
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Just thinking it through logically, TOP is a better measure for a teams’ productivity than an individuals’ productivity.
The reason getting on base is so useful is that there is an underlying assumption that the guys following you will get you home a decent proportion of the time. If your teammates are so awful that you never get home, then OBP is useless (and basically only dingers are useful). The less they get out, the more useful a simple walk becomes.
So the problem with TOP becomes clear: it assumes that as a player gets better, all of his teammates do too. But the Giants only traded one Fred Lewis (well, this time) – his new teammates would be exactly the same whether Fred batted .200/.400/.400 or .300/.300/.550, and saying that “the 2007 Fred Lewis would have produced more runs than the 2010 version, assuming that all of his teammates also had an OBP of 40 points higher in 2007” doesn’t make sense unless all his teammates did have a better OBP. In this regard, linear methods make perfect sense – you are changing only one variable in the lineup, after all.
So while I agree that multiplicative methods should be better (probably only marginally so, but better) than linear methods at predicting team runs, a good linear method should be better at predicting an individuals marginal effect on a teams runs.
Slightly interesting point based on that thought experiment: with below average teammates (like, I dunno, the Giants), wOBA should logically overrate OBP and underrate slugging. Hence, given the same wOBA, the 2010 version of Lewis would produce more additional runs than the 2007 version. The interesting question becomes: in a shockingly bad offence, how strongly can you weight away from OBP and towards SLG?
by sarf_london_niner on May 31, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions
ding ding ding ding
We have a winner. If I may quote, " TOP is a better measure for a teams’ productivity.. a good linear method should be better at predicting an individuals marginal effect on a teams runs."
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
That's why God made computers.
The TOP is at its heart a team-level computation. So you: 1) assemble your hypothetical roster; 2) assign presumed fractions of playing time; 3) pro-rate each player’s stats (from career or whatever other sample you think representative); 4) add the pro-ratings up for a team line; and 5) run the formula on that team line.
To get the effect of changing X for Y, or of making different assumptions about X’s most representative stats, you just plug in the new data and re-run the calculations.
The bare TOP for a player is not (as I have said before) in itself a direct calculator for impact on a team (for one thing, the average of the products is not in general equal to the product of the averages, and TOP is multiplicative), but it is a pretty good approximator; and I do think it is a good way of comparing players overall.
Another point often overlooked in theoretical discussions is that at the practical level, on which real-world front offices, good, bad, and indifferent, all operate, the actual assortment of players needing comparison is so limited that any reasonable approximation to overall worth suffices; few if any metrics are going to give really large differences in valuation for a given player, and when it’s a matter of “A or B?” using any one is probably satisfactory.
Footnote: SLG is a poor measure for the same reasons BA is: it ignores walks. The better stat is TBA, defined as TB/PA. If OPS were replaced by an “OBA times TBA” stat, that new stat would be a pretty good indicator. But I guess multiplication is too tricky and technical.
In practice, there is little or no difference between LW and multiplicative methods. That, of course, derives from the fact that in baseball we are looking at such a restricted range of data that the assumption of linearity is a good one: to an ant, the world really is effectively flat. But I like multiplicative methods because they are not purely empirical but rather rest on a framework of probabilistic theory (and joint probabilities are multiplicative).
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Hang on
You started this by saying “Sorry to be the wet blanket here, but Lewis in 2010 is producing worse than he did in 2007 or 2008, and not tons better than in 2009 [….] Annoying things, facts”
You can’t now turn around and say “using any one is probably satisfactory” and “there is little or no difference between LW and multiplicative methods”, when the wOBA method flatly contradicts the above. Either Lewis is producing worse than 2007 (“fact”), or wOBA is not satisfactory.
And you can’t claim multiplicative methods are based on framework of probability theory when :
(a) you used them in a way that is not at all based on a framework (when you suddenly make a jump like “it’s not a direct calculator .. it’s a pretty good approximator” without any proof or any indication of margin of error, you aren’t building on a framework anymore), and
(b) linear approximations are also based on a probability framework – Markov chains have no moral high ground here. In fact, the linear method can often be far, far more reliable than a Markov method – errors grow exponentially in a Markov chain, so the less reliable your initial estimates are then the less reliable the chain is. Assuming that an MLB has 9 players exactly like Fred Lewis is, I’m sure you will agree, an estimate with significant error.
It’s true, as you imply, that linearity is not actually real: that is to say, the value of a hit/walk/hr/bb to a player differs depending on who is teammates are. No player has 8 teammates of exactly league average ability. However, it’s clearly a more reliable approximation than to assume that he has eight teammates who are clones of himself.
by sarf_london_niner on Jun 1, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
There are . . .
. . . methods and there are methods. If you look here, you can see what I mean when I say that there isn’t much difference.
The “nine clones” approach is, I reckon, not much better or worse than any other for evaluating the overall abilities of players. A man with a higher TOP than another can reasonably be referred to as a better batter. And especially is it so that a man with a lower TOP in a given year than in another is doing worse than he was before.
To calculate a given man’s value as a substitution for another man in a given lineup, we can get a decent read on the seasonal run-total change by multiplying the difference in TOPs by the percentage estimated playing time; an exact calculation can be made as described above.
My philosophy is that no metric is worth much if it does not yield a measureable real-world result, whether runs scored, runs allowed, games won, or some such thing. Relative, as opposed to absolute, measures are fun in bar-room conversations, but don’t have much else going for them.
Nor am I referring to Markov chains. I am referring to compound probabilities being inherently multiplicative. The chances for a batter becoming a run scored are, in simplified form, his chances for getting on base multiplied by his chances for being advanced to home.
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fun trivia question
How much did the Giants get back for Rajai Davis and Fred combined?
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Worth 75K?
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
TO should not have decimals in it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It still shouldn’t have decimals.
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by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
I too would like to know.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s nice to see that he’s doing well, but it won’t last. A lot of players play unusually well when they first move to another team (Rajai Davis with us, Neifi Perez with Chicago, etc.), inflate the fans’ hopes, and then regress back. It’s a cliche, but I think the whole “change of scenery” thing really helps some players.
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by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’s basically doing exactly what you expect Fred Lewis to do.
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
If Affeldt has to go on the DL, the Giants will be allowed to bring back Waldis Joaquin. They could opt for Alex Hinshaw if they want another left-hander, although he’s had an inconsistent two months at Fresno.
Great. More walks!
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by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 9:32 PM PDT reply actions
Well, I haven’t looked at Hinshaw’s numbers this year.
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by Giant among Angels on May 30, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t want to.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
GRANDMA NOOOOOOOOO
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Hahahahahaha.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't believe he's still on the 40 man roster
Maybe Dunston is right
You don’t walk your way off the 40 man
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With those two back we'll sky rocket into #1 in walks
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OT:
I think I should replay Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts 2. Starting tonight.
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Why? Was a new one announced??
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, not the PS3
But there is Birth By Sleep coming stateside.
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I liked the first one better, to be honest with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22vOmJzoCQ (NSFW Audio)
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Even though it was flawed, the first one was definitely better. Especially since their attempt to fix the flaws of the first one (especially difficult platforming elements) in the second one turned into, “LOL WE’LL JUST TAKE THAT OUT COMPLETELY!”
Also the pacing of the second one is so unbelievably awkward and bad.
Still a good game, but man, it was disappointing.
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I wasn’t disappointed at all, I loved the sequel. Except that it was way too easy
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the combat in KH2 was super simplistic.
Lock on, X, X, X, X, Triangle, Repeat.
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There were a couple of boss fights that were pretty tough, but nothing like the Malificent Dragon or final boss from the first game
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a problem with the lance using Org XIII member in Beast's Castle.
But yeah other then that there were not too many difficult bosses.
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That’s exactly the fight I was thinking of. I also remember being really frustrated by the final boss’ last form
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The part where it was just him v. Sora and Riku?
That part was actually pretty cool
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That was a final boss fight done right. Ridiculously epic. But also ridiculously long.
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Yeah I loved that one.
I thought it was better then the KH1 final fight against the ship/heartless genie
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He was ridiculous. Mickey wasn’t gonna put up with that shit, though.
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Yeah, I don’t think I had a single game over the whole game.
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That's cause Jedi Mickey would save you.
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The levels were so linear, point A to point B. Like, I was frustrated by the platforming in KH1, but it was much more interesting than the really stream-lined, boring levels that you could hardly interact with in part 2.
Don’t get me wrong, I really did like 2 a lot, but it felt a bit lazy to me.
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See below, lol
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The novelty of running around the Disney worlds was so cool for me that I didn’t pay any mind to their non-interactivity
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I didn’t notice at first, really. But by the time I got to the end, I realized just how much I missed the platforming elements.
I actually did think combat was much better in KH2 though.
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I am not sure if the combat was better, but it was a lot prettier. Some of it happened so fast though you would miss it.
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I was mostly disappointed in the level design. Areas in KH1 felt open and full. Areas in KH2 felt more like stages; they were mostly linear, and didn’t really offer much of anything dynamic. I liked the Black and White stage, but was otherwise underwhelmed.
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I was sad at how short Timeless River was
but it really was a great design.
The only one that felt over simplistic to me was Mickey’s Castle.
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Why does he talk like a revival priest?
Also yeah the tutorial (Roxas part) of KH2 dragged on more than was necessary, I thought.
But man there are some terrific segments in the second one. The huge 1000 enemy fight at Hollow Bastian where you team up with all the FF characters one by one.
The worlds were better designed in general (looking at you Little Mermaid DDR).
The worst part of KH2 was the leveling up of the drive forms and summons. Especially the summons which were somehow more useless then they were in the first game.
It is a toss up for which one is better. I enjoyed them both. Maybe leaning toward the first one because of what it introduced.
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I thought it was Mitch Hedberg at first
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Mitch Hedberg was funny every now and then though.
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It’s MC Chris (AKA Hesh from Sealab 2021. That’s just… what he does.)
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LOL Hesh.
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HA HA HA
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by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus. He looks like he has steel wool on his head
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s showing off the autographs.
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My guess is that he’s giving them to “Locker Room Memorabilia” to be sold. Maybe from his grand slam? LOL
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LOL
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The worlds looked nicer in II, but I don’t think they were really better designed. I dunno, I really felt like there was a lot of exploration to be done within the worlds in the first game, whereas the second game was very much about going in to the world, completing whatever the story aspect was and getting out.
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Exactly. You’ve hit it squarely on the head (though I agree with you that the combat was better in the second entry).
I think of the original Halloween Town and the Tarzan world in the first game, and how much room there was to wander around and do stuff. I never got that sense in the second game, and I missed it a lot.
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Yeah, the Tarzan world in the first game was especially cool. Vine swinging! Branch surfing! Exploring waterfalls!
I mean, some of the levels in KH1 were total messes (I’m thinking of Alice in Wonderland and the Belly of the Whale level particularly), but at least they TRIED to do something interesting there, imo.
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Goddammit
All this talk is making me want to play them more.
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Flying around Big Ben in the Peter Pan level was pretty cool also.
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by Useful_Idiot on May 30, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked being a Lion in the Savannah
Also the stuff they did in each game with the nightmare before christmas was great.
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Being a lion in the Lion King level was pretty sweet, although I still felt like the level was too linear.
That said, it also has the cheapest level up opportunity in the game! Level 99 in like two hours!
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I got tired of "Oh, what are my characters going to get transformed into this level?
It’s basically the same as my impression of Mario Party 2 when it came out. “It’s Mario Party… with HATS!”
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But at least they felt like worlds, and not cameos.
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Also the award for most awkward Disney cameo shoehorned into the game? Pirates of the Caribbean
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Take it to the bank!
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Yeah
That was a world that did not need to be in the game. The voices in that section were really terrible. And having realistic looking people in the game with all the stylized Square Enix characters was just weird.
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When they realized they weren’t gonna get Orlando, Johnny and Keira to do the voices, they should have just aborted and fast.
Plus there are plenty of cool Disney cartoons they could have done. Rescuers! Sword in the Stone! Jungle Book! (how has there not been a Jungle Book level yet??) Robin Hood! Pixar movies!
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I would die if the next one had a Rescue Rangers Level.
And Ducktails.
Jungle Book would be good, and I assume some Pixar ones will be in the next one now that Disney officially owns Pixar (which was the reason they were not in the first two).
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I would be down with some Darkwing Duck.
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OMG YES
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I have the Duck Tales theme song stuck in my head now. Actually, no, that’s now been merged with the Rescue Rangers theme song, so it’s this odd mass of song that goes like, “Chi-Chi-Chip ’n Dale, a whoo-ooo!”
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And while on the Rescue Rangers tangent, I have to say that my favorite episode was the one where they went to NASA, and then got stuck in the space shuttle and had to land it after all the astronauts were knocked out.
I think it was on the same VHS that had the Hound of the Baskervilles-esque episode, where they pretended to be a ghost to fool the bad guy and get the will that proves that the good guy gets the house.
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YES!
I watched that so many times, it was a wonder that the tape didn’t wear out.
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Oh, no, now I have the Duck Tales theme in Finnish or something like that stuck in my head.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
A whoo oo!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Look down.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDlBH5u4GaA&playnext_from=TL&videos=McDlKcXE4eM
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
YES
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I expect that KH3, if/when it comes out, will have a bunch of Pixar worlds
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Both are still sitting on my stack of unplayed/unfinished PS2 games along with FFX2, FFXII, Shadow of Colossus, and some others.
I still haven’t finished FFXII either. I went through a span of a couple months a little while ago where I played FFXII a ton and then one day I just… stopped.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Pretty much. I got to the end game and started collecting the extra achievements and so forth, and just got bored. I might have stuck with it if they had done anything to make me care about the story at all.
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I also suddenly stopped playing one day because my 1.5 year old son thought it would be a good idea to use the disc as a toy.
Thing C
OMNOMNOMNOM
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, Simple and Clean is a catchy song. I love the slow full version from the end of the game.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
WHEN YOU WALK AWAY
YOU DON’T HEAR ME SAY
PLEEEEEEEEASE OH BAAAAABYYYY
DON’T GO
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hmm
I think I will pick the sword and ditch magic as per usual.
Although it is funny to attack the first enemies with a shield.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
ZOMG SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS
That should be on the stack above both of the FFs. Way shorter, and far, far, far superior.
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Was a pretty good game.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I think it’s the closest we’ve come on a console to “games as art.” There’s nothing superfluous about the presentation or the story, and aspires to the product, not the profit. Replay value is so-so, but the first play-through was a real journey for me.
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Shadow of the Colossus is cool. I never finished it, but it’s one of my girlfriend’s favorite games. She never finished Ico, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I got ICO used at Gamestop for $10. The cashier was like “how the hell do we have a copy of this lying around?”
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I got the same reaction when I bought Baten Kaitos (not the sequel) at Gamestop a year or so ago.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell, you could probably borrow my copy if you ever got around to it. I’m not going to replay it any time in the near future.
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Don’t bother finishing FFXII
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
snakepit LOL
http://www.azsnakepit.com/2010/5/30/1494261/eye-on-the-dbacks#storyjump
DB fans suffering from unsafe levels of torture
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
…and a matchup against our division rivals, the Dodgers, in Los Angeles.
Aww, that’s cute.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked this one better
If you’re partying tomorrow, please be safe. If you’re watching the Diamondbacks tomorrow, please be safe.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 30, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Porcelain!
But when Buster Posey tried to join the celebration, wizened veteran Aubrey Huff interceded. Faster than you can say “Kendry Morales,” Huff dropped his forearm like a railroad crossing gate and separated the golden boy from the scrum.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I love Huff
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Huff’s goofiness factor is really getting me to like him. It’s like with Brian Boucher when he was on the Sharks – all the guy has to do is do his job adequately and be a total goofball on the side to get me to like him.
All Huff has to do now is to conduct an interview in a Russian accent, and it will be perfect.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
I agree with this action. I demand Buster be transported from game to game encased in bubble wrap
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
And lo, the Popemobile becomes the Poseymobile.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
And keep him away from Brian Wilson at all cost.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on May 30, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering why Huff did that.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so embarrassed.
I can spell “embarrassed.”
Proud father of Alex and Fred Lewis.
I ain't denyin' there wasn't no bottle.
by baby tuckoo on May 30, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
mcc has more traffic than the sbnation sites for the bums, cards, Yanks, & red sox. Can't say I expected this.
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Fuck those guys
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
GUYS WE WON THE INTERWEBS
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on May 30, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
BRAIN SABEAN WILL SOON BE FRIERED
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
RIP Bowkermania :(
His four RBIs in his first two games this season are the most by a Giants rookie since John Bowker had seven RBIs in two games against the Cardinals in April 2008.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Andres “The Messiah” Torres
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's a question for your consideration:
How real is Eli Whiteside? We basically know what we’re getting from him defensively already, but his numbers thus far this season have been substantially better than last season, despite the fact that he still only gets 1-2 starts a week.
2009 (139 PAs): .228/.269/.339 (.607 OPS)
2010 (58 PAs): .278/.316/.537 (.853 OPS)
It might be too much to expect that he will be a productive member of our offense, but you certainly can’t complain when he makes contributions. The game in San Diego when he single-handedly stranded something like 11 runners was pretty goddamn aggravating, but he set a new season high for home runs yesterday, and was part of the game-winning rally in extra innings today.
Is there any reason to believe or expect that Whiteside is having a Renaissance of his own, even a little bit?
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His BABIP isn’t crazy, so maybe…
That said, he’s just a backup C, so whatever.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point in the season, he’s a better option than our starting catcher, which is why I think it warrants some scrutiny. Should we keep on expecting him to be a ~.225 hitter? .250? Going into this season, he was more or less an automatic out.
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Well, his minor league career OBP is .681 (and his more recent minor league history is basically in line with that. I’d expect him to go back to being what he’s always been. But I don’t see why you wouldn’t wait it out and see if he got some magic inside for a basically free backup catcher.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 30, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
OPS, you mean.
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OOPS
The mere fact that he is a patient hitter will distinguish him, and his improvement might simply be a realization of that fact.
Maturity pays off, gays. Same is true in sexual relationships. OK. Don’t believe me, kids.
Bah.
Proud father of Alex and Fred Lewis.
I ain't denyin' there wasn't no bottle.
by baby tuckoo on May 30, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to say, an OBP of .681 is downright Bondsian, no matter what level you are playing at (speaking of patience).
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Wait, you’re not Howie.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I am Howie.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Hear you roar?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
ROOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Thank you, that’s what I was looking for.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Or it could just be 58 at bats.
Also, gays?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Plate Appearances.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
you win the prize
The starting catcher is one of the worst defenders in the league, and he’s not SOCKING TEH RIBEYES, so of course the backup catcher is better.
Whiteside might be an automatic out, but at least he would make sure that Timmy and Matt’s third strikes are also automatic outs and that their fastballs don’t hit him square in the face.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
if Eli Whiteside is really a .500 SLG hitter, I will eat my hat.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
Pics or it didn't happen
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
That's it
I am playing KH again. Will check in with you goof’s later.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Or I can play and stay on here. Which is what I will do.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
i’m about to watch baseball tonight and lol at their “expert analysis”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 30, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Always a good choice.
You have the DVDs?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Dick move!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
im drunk as ehll and cant’ say antyhing more intelligent than go psey go giants
not that is anc manage ameuch more anyway
Jeaaaggaahh
Triumph and defeat are often hard to express except as gestures.
Proud father of Alex and Fred Lewis.
I ain't denyin' there wasn't no bottle.
Quois?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
lol baseball tonight
“The youngster andres torres with a walk off hit don’t get to excited there little guy!” LAWLchris berman pulling a gary radnich, they are pretty similar how ironic.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
is that what irony is?
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
by slackersphere17 on May 30, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I think its funny that two loud mouth idiots have no idea what they are talking about.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 30, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
“When a diabetic gets hit by an ice cream truck, it’s not ironic. It’s a tragic coincidence.”
-George Carlin
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
To quote the philopher Bender:
The use of words expressing something of the other than the literal intention.
Now that is irony.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Shouldn’t you be playing Kingdom Hearts?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I am
but there are some lengthy cut scenes in the beginning of the game.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Also
Apparently Sora’s family has dinner in the middle of the night?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
so it was ironic?
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
by slackersphere17 on May 30, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be ironic if it was made of iron.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Now that’s ironic!
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Or ferric. Possibly both.
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I’m guessing neither of you are fans of Red vs Blue.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Isn't it ironic, don't you think?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
i hope so
in soviet russia, run scores you!....and giants still have terrible offense
by slackersphere17 on May 30, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
But what do you think?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Irony:
From the AHD:
1.a. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
1.b. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
1.c. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
2.a. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
2. b. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
3. Dramatic irony.
4. Socratic irony.
Generally, it is sense #2 that is meant. The AHD Usage panel notes (in accord with George Carlin, as quoted above) that simple coincidence does not generate irony. A woman having moved from a small town in New England to Los Angeles and there met and married a man who happened to come from her home town is not an ironic circumstance; but had she left home for L.A. mainly or wholly to find a husband, it would then have been ironic.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
at least he doesn’t bring up dancing with the stars and keeping up with the kardachians while on air.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 30, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Berman is annoying
Radnich is an annoying idiot.
Therefore Berman > Radnich.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I can't listen to either.
And Berman is a Giants fan.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
An old apothegm says:
I can protect myself from my enemies, but only God can protect me from my friends.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Yeah I try to avoid both as well
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
by Gobroks on May 31, 2010 12:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Berman is also an actual 49er fan. So he gets a few passes from me for that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Berman when he talks football. He’s entertaining as hell. Baseball, not as much.
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I’ll always love him just a little bit for a ten-minute stretch he pulled on NFL live or someshow a few years ago. Man, the 49ers were having a terrible season. They’d lost like 6 or 7 in a row. There were other stories to tell. We were irrelevant.
/does research.
Oh yeah, it was 2007. We’d lost EIGHT in a row. We go to Arizona and steal a win.
Berman goes fanboy on ESPN and takes a full ten minutes to cover the win on national TV. It was cool.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought he was a Jets fan. He seems to love Joe Namath and loves to copy what Namath did after Super Bowl III.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
He could be both. I’ve definitely seen him go fanboy on the 49ers quite a few times.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
This ad for the Power Painter makes me wonder who the hell would paint their house a shade of neon yellow.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 30, 2010 11:51 PM PDT reply actions
Liberace?
Stevie Wonder?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I like how every post-game thread has at least one nerd thread
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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It’s a healthy reminder of this site’s REAL demographic…
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We get to baseball eventually.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Y’all ever watched a stranger play an RPG from start to finish without yourself touching the controller? I have.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
a RPG?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You can go both ways.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
PHEW
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You watched the Giant Bomb Persona 4 Endurance Run?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
BUT I AM NOW
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s well worth it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
Bewbs.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
PANDA!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Additional train.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LOLCOOL UNCLE
Glad you’ve changed my diapers or something.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
WELCOME TO MOLE?!
What’s going on here?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
What a thoroughly bad game.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Protagonist not allowed to button the top or bottom of his dress shirt. This indicates that he’s a maverick.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Proceed through the opaque map.
Produce a sword for no purpose.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
22 minutes of exposition.
This is my life. They made this game about me.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
THE TEACHER IS A MONSTER
From Brooklyn?!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LOL ABUSING THE GIRLS!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Knowledgeable student is knowledgeable.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’m rooting for a full hour of exposition.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I'll bet you a can of TaP he gets knocked out.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
37 minutes of exposition?!
We’re deep into LOLme territory.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Also
I can’t even summarize the ‘also’.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Repeat summary:
Repeat summary for 40+ minutes. Every day’s great at your Junes.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Jurassic 5 shout out.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
45 minutes of exposition, and counting.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It's grilled steak, man!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Bullshit, no grilled steak.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Is Costco the enemy?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
BEWARE;
Something might happen!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
An hour of inaction is achieved.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The protagonist is thorough in his refusal to do anything. As a narrative, the game is like Gary Payton in the late 90s; covers the passing lanes, plays good man defense, excellent lateral movement. This production will not allow action for a single moment.
55 minutes of exposition. I undershot it somewhat.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
We’ve got about 20 minutes in Part 6, so I’m pretty sure something will happen.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Oh, hey, an anime!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Thou art I?
I am the one that opens the door?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
SOMETHING ALMOST HAPPENED
The TV very nearly ate something!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
mah face
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
We've got some pretty big ones in stock.
HWA-TAAA!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
VC IN THE TV!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You might be able to put in more than just your arm….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This is all too much for my bladder!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Shit, customers, coming!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Additional anime.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
MY BLADDER'S GONNA EXPLODE
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s all your fault if my bladder bursts.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
75 minutes of nothing.
I’m an enormous loser.
The crew is attacked by a stuffed animal. I expect it will be their friend and there will be no conflict.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The stuffed animal is a mixture of chimp/panda.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He’s friendly, so there’s no danger of action.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Would a human actually make a game that requires no action other than hitting ‘x’?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
repeat the summary
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
THE LAST BATTLE SEQUENCE OCCURED OVER AN HOUR AGO
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
85 minutes of nothing.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I… I can’t take much more.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This game doesn't even have fucking.
I can assuage dramatic failure as long as there’s fucking.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Sheesh.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Somehow Persona shifted from tarot cards to television. It was logical.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
passive voice lol?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Back up, mysterious bear!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Proof?!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
104 minutes of nothing...
HOLY CRAP THEY TORE THE BEAR IN TWO
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
FUR LATUR
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’m entertained by this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Alex has a cool self reply chain going
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
It’s amusing.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s wearing out my z key.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
that was pretty epic
And even groundbreaking: the first self-replied open game thread posted while drunk. Rec’d!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2010 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s no proof!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I think about 90 proof
but I’m no stats wonk.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jun 1, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
From what I’ve seen, you really shouldn’t bother.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s a pretty cool game. It starts slow, but if you like Persona 3, then game on.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Not 'The Stranger' you are looking for.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
ORLY?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Mersault?
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Hell, I used to watch people play MMORPGs all the goddamn time without ever playing them myself. Why??? I don’t know!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
MAPLESTORY OMG
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL I think my brother used to be obsessed with that.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG
that’s a GIANT POSEY we’ve got there
by TimLaser and MattyC on May 31, 2010 12:43 AM PDT reply actions
Remember, everyone!
It’s a day game tomorrow! 1:05 start.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I can only resist for so long
After this quote I’m definitely a member of HUFFlepuff
By now, you probably know Aubrey Huff is a free-wheeling kind of guy. Here’s his response when asked how he’d prepare to face Ubaldo Jimenez:
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
Much as we make fun of Purple Row
Their front page writers are actually pretty OK, and I always like their series previews:
http://www.purplerow.com/2010/5/31/1493396/buster-had-attempted-to-flee-to#storyjump
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I actually really like PR, especially the front page writers and the guy with the Arrested Development handle.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
I do think the front-page writing there is good. I just find the general mood of the comments section to be contrary to my own tastes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Andrew is good
The rest of the writers are awful. Superficial analysis sprinkled liberally with embarrassing earnestness.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
My girl and I thought about going to today’s game. But it’s too expensive, so we’re going to watch the game at McCovey’s instead.
Just get the damn surgery, Mark DeRosa.
Slightly less LOLINEUP
Torres CF,
Sanchez 2B,
Sandoval 3B,
Huff LF,
Uribe SS,
Posey 1B,
Molina C,
Rowand CF,
Lincecum P
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
OK, that’s not fair. You create false hope by listing Torres at CF——and then list Rowand at CF at the bottom.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Torres is, of course, in right.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Posey hitting in front of Molina!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I have a feeling Jimenez is going to absolutely abuse Rowand today though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Does Ubaldo throw a slider?
/actual question
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Yep.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Rowand just swung at it somewhere
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on May 31, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how long it’s going to take before the Rowand defenders start to lose hope.
It’s weird. The guy can obviously play baseball. But man, he looks completely broken down mentally and physically lately. Thinking about it, it reminds me a little bit of Andruw Jones a few years ago.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, minus the weight problem.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
And the patience.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And the power.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, fine. It’s nothing like Andruw Jones.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
They’re still linked in my head because I wanted the Giants to sign Andruw instead of Rowand. Andruw immediately turned into the worst player in baseball, but he’s catching up to Rowand fast.
Since last year, even, he’s been much better with the bat. Although I can’t really speak to his defense anymore.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish he was catching.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll take what I can get.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah. I’m only complaining because this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to anyone. Other that, I’m happy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, Molina’s gonna be PISSED!
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
by SeeingStars on May 31, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
WHOSE HOOOOOOUSE?
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=366+Columbus+Ave&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=366+Columbus+Ave,+San+Francisco,+California+94133&gl=us&ei=Q_wDTNfYB5H0NfP3rTs&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA&ll=37.798474,-122.407576&spn=0.001653,0.002972&z=19&layer=c&cbll=37.798542,-122.407674&panoid=oCIpVPveNGHYZLPqC8yhXg&cbp=12,48.54,,1,3
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Balls.
Try this: http://is.gd/cxcfT
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on May 31, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're rec'd.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jun 1, 2010 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions
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