Quick starts and slow fades
by Grant Brisbee on May 3, 2010 1:26 PM PDT
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PrintBreaking: The Giants aren’t going to end the season with four starting pitchers with an ERA under 3.00. Bengie Molina isn’t going to finish the year with a .343 batting average, just as Edgar Renteria isn’t going to cruise into free agency as a .320 hitter. Guillermo Mota might not keep his 0.96 ERA up. Further updates as events warrant.
Fine. So there are a few players on the team who aren’t going to sustain their lofty performances to this point. On the other side, Mark DeRosa should be a better hitter than Tim Lincecum, John Bowker will eventually prove the haterz wrong, and Brandon Medders isn’t going to allow an average of two hits for each inning he pitches. Well, that last one might not be true, but work with me here.
But the more important point is that even though the Giants have benefited from a surprising number of hot hitters and pitchers, it isn’t necessarily leading to as many wins as it should. If you go by Pythagorean W-L, a team that allows 70 runs while scoring 108 in 24 games should be 17-7, not 14-10. So while the team ERA should climb up from 2.72 and the team on-base percentage probably isn’t going to stay at .343, the overall team winning percentage is more sustainable than it might seem. I think. Maybe. I hope. Work with me here.
This is all a long-winded prelude to a comment starter: Pick the fast-starter who you think will come closest to sustaining his performance, and also pick the one who is most likely to be a mirage. The list of fast starters is loosely defined as a) anyone in the lineup who isn’t Mark DeRosa or Aaron Rowand, b) anyone in the rotation who isn’t Todd Wellemeyer, and c) anyone in the bullpen who isn’t Brandon Medders. This team is getting a ton of great performances right now. At least a couple have to stick, right? Right? I think. Maybe. I hope. Work with me here.
Give me Aubrey Huff as the sustainable hitter, with Sergio Romo as the sustainable pitcher. It’s not like Huff is setting the world on fire, but his performance so far is close to a best-case performance for him that is still grounded in reality. And unfortunately timed late-inning extra-base hits aside, Romo is just this awesome. He just struck you out with a frisbee slider as you were reading this.
And while I’m thrilled that Nate Schierholtz is hitting so well after being blocked year after year by a parade of heavy-hitting outfielders – one slugger after another keeping the lineup afloat and the young outfielder in Fresno or on the bench – he probably has the furthest to fall, so I’ll sell a bit of my Schierholtz futures. If he does have a breakout season, it’s going to be a lot closer to .300/.340/.440 than to .345/.419/.509. With the defense that Schierholtz has been playing, though, it’s not as if I’ll complain if he dips a little.
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The problem with the Pythagorean analysis above
is that the run differential is dependent upon the hot starts that aren’t sustainable. So, even if the Giants have been “unlucky” so far in terms of their record given their run differential, the run differential itself is likely to get worse as the hot players cool off.
That's exactly what Grant said
Based on our hot start, we SHOULD be 17-7, so the fact that we’ve been unlucky and are sitting at 14-10 means that the lucky hot start and the unlucky run distribution is evening itself out, and we’re about a 14-10 team.
“Unlucky”? The word I’d use is “mismanaged”.
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by cybermaldonado on May 3, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nate Schierholtz:
When he dips, you dip, we dip.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
eh, i donno man, my knees are hurtin
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He puts some slam up on their FIP
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I like this. This is good.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if Congress has anything to say about it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The 3 losses that should have been wins.
1. The Phillies Wilson/Werth debacle
2. The 1 hitter loss in San Diego
3. And the Manny 8th inning homerun against Romo
I dispute
2. The 1 hitter loss in San Diego
The Eckstein walk-off the day before was much more winnable game. That game was tied after 9.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Um the giants hadn’t lost a game where they gave up one hit in 50 years.
I guarantee they’ve lost plenty of games tied after the 9th inning.
It’s hard to imagine any game more “winnable” than a game where your pitchers throw a one-hitter.
Well, except for a no-hitter. Y’know what I mean.
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Regardless of hit totals
trailing by 1 after 4 innings and never tying is less winnable a game than a tied at 2 after 9 innings game.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Really, this is just a semantics argument. It depends on how you’re defining “winnable.”
You’re talking about a game that is winnable in the 9th. They’re talking about a game situation that should be winnable every time.
You SHOULD win a one-hitter. You shouldn’t expect to win a game that you’re losing in the 9th. Both of these statements are absolutely true.
Fighting over these semantics is a dead end imho.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re backtracking.
If you give me the choice i’ll take the one hitter over the game tied in the 9th inning 100 times out of 100.
I’m not backtracking. I never took a position. You’re both using different standards to define what makes a particular situation winnable. And you’re not going to agree because you both obviously prefer your own. That’s all I was saying.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re right. My standard is right his is wrong
The Giants hadn’t lost a game in OVER 50 YEARS when giving up one hit. Seems like that means it’s a pretty winnable game.
TELL THAT TO BOB HENDLEY.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
“The Giants hadn’t lost a game in OVER 50 YEARS”
That is what they call circumstantial evidence.
What happens if they pitch a one-hitter but they let up 7 other base runners? What if that one hit is a home run right after two peopled are walked on base?
Just because it hasn’t happened before does not change the probability of the giants coming back to win.
I think it’s actually pretty clear which game is more winnable…
You’re cherrypicking points in the game.
They were also down one going into the 9th against a really good closer. I bet the odds of them winning at that point were really low.
You respond to the "cherry picking points in the game"
by cherry picking a point in the game. Well done. You are wrong here, a game in which you give up one hit is almost always won more often than a game in which you’re tied after 9. I can’t believe that you’re even arguing that point.
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Claiming a game in which one never scored
and in fact did nothing but trail the final 5 innings as a game one should have won is illogical if not wholly insane.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
If you get a one-hitter, you’re going to win almost every time. Probably around or even above 99%.
If you’re tied through nine innings, your chance of winning is somewhere in the vicinity of 50%, depending on whether you’re at home or on the road, etc.
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This was not a one-hit shutout, maniac.
This was a one-run shutout going in the other direction. Your calculation is based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I see this is continuing to go nowhere for everyone. I’m glad to see that my psychic abilities remain intact.
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by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, I just got a new sig out of it. Banger Studs was getting a bit long in the tooth.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I’ll whip your butt in Othello.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I am better than anyone at Trivial Pursuit.
Not that’s a game of strategy.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
The best strategy
is filling your brain with more random crap than anyone else.
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Not to rehash old points or anything…
but look at the graph I posted directly above.
It is clear which game is more winnable. In the tie game the giants were a decent favorite to win in the 4th and the 5th and they were a 50% favorite to win in the 5th, 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th.
In the other game they were a lesser favorite to win in the early 3rd/4th and after that point they were only close to even odds one time in the 8th.
Your actual valid point is “It is rare for a team to let up one hit and lose.”
The point which you are trying to make “The giants had a better chance at winning the one-hit game than they did the tied game in the 9th.” Is arguing something else entirely.
What if the one hit were a grandslam in the first inning? Using your definition of a one-hitter, ignoring the actual circumstances of the game, is this game more winnable then a game that is tied in the 9th?
Yes, throwing a one hitter makes it more likely the team will win but it does not cause them to do so. That is a product of limiting base runners and scoring their own runs.
For more information, see wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
Pointless argument is still pointless.
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by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
WE JUDGE THIS SITUATION BY ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CRITERIA, LET’S FIGHT ABOUT IT
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That's one of my favorites
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What if what happened was something that happens .000001% of the time!??!!
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Oh my god
you’re still arguing the point.
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how many 1-hitters have they won?
12?
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My Fade Candidate : Freddy Sanchez. I think he will eventually make an out this season.
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His recovery is currently exceeding all known projections. He’s likely to see some regression there.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
With the defense that Schierholtz has been playing, though, it’s not as if I’ll complain if he dips a littl
Keeping up with current events?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I agree with Romo as being sustainable. Well, maybe not a sub-0.70 WHIP, but he’ll be really, really good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Predictable.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
one pitch, etc etc
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Sergio Romo: Hella Fucking Good
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude could strike me out anyday.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops. Dude could strike me out any day.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn skippy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie, you can correct my grammar anyday.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll correct your grammar everytime.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen everytime anyplace. Are we sure that’s a word?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/5/3/1456147/a-ban-on-chewing-tobacco#36626637
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well… if it’s for the kids, I guess I have to allow it.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Alex smith is going to be a good quarterback
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I actually was hoping I’d be able to facepalm somebody in that other thread.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Its NN, so its definitely possible
I was amazed at how many replies were on that post though. It’s like it’s a real place now
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A lot of those replies are just me commenting to make the thread look good, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhh yes
padding your numbers, as I’m sure you do with many other things
BURN!
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I thought you think he is a good quarterback
And now he’s going to have proper protection
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
STOP IT YOU GUYS
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I was saying it to annoy howie
not because I don’t believe it. He’s going to be good.
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NATE DAVIS
/PiKA?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
START NATE DAVIS IF SMITH FUCKS UP
i swear, if they go to Carr i might flip out, plus Jarrett Brown is for real, the only downside is the fact he’s not much of a player that reads coverages, so he’s very similar to Nate Davis, i’ll take either one… but both have cannons for an arm
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LOL ALEX SMITH!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they're not starting nate davis
so if Smith flops (he won’t), prepare to flip out.
But don’t worry, because Smith is going to be good.
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I really hope so, i have faith in him, but if he fucks up this year it wont be good… Plus Carr is NOTHING, also Nate Davis does have the potential, same with Brown, he’s a talent, especially watching him play at a WVU game i went to last year
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Nate Davis won’t see the field this year.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
He'll see more of it than you
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
No need to take a shot at my eyesight, man.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It is the creepy stare. It strains the eyes.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Lies! All lies!!! Molina draws walks!
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions
I seriously think his agent is telling him
“So HR and RBI isn’t going to get you paid these days. You best improve that OBP.”
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I think he's too fat...
And is just too tired to swing the bat sometimes.
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever works.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's too fat to catch an off target fastball.
What happened to receiving skills.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Fearless Prediction
Tim Lincecum’s ERA will continue to hover around 1.5 for the entire year.
Juan Uribe will keep this up after Edgar Renteria breaks his ankle, knee, elbow and shoulder all at the same time.
As for falling off:
Bengie Molina will hit .250 this year and ground into one quadrillion double plays, but will stay close to .300 long enough to give me a coronary because BP’s still in the minors.
Also, sad to say Jonathan Sanchez will not continue on this pace.
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
I think Jonathan will have dominant stretches
and games like yesterday..that’s just sorta who he is
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More dominating than dominated though.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I think Uribe is the truth and I will club a baby seal to death every day he's not in the lineup.
many of his outs have been scorching liners.
whatever happens to the Giants, he’ll always be at 2nd with a sweaty teabag waiting for would-be base-stealers.
Choppin' broccoli
There’s so much in your comment that I find troubling. It starts with the baby seals and ends with the sweaty tea bags.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I had not. That does explain a lot. The look on the guy’s face is also kind of funny.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
the pic
its from a movie called “A Fish Called Wanda”
which is hilarious btw
slowly dying, one giants game at a time
OK, I changed it. For the Children (but not, of course, for the Dodger larvae).
Kevin Kline got an Oscar for his role as Otto West I’ll have you know.
Choppin' broccoli
Of course there aren't many "would-be" base stealers
Most of the base stealers against the Giants are successful, but apparently Buster Posey couldn’t do better than the 3 for 500 that Molina is so far this year.
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
can’t throw guys out when every pitch goes to the backstop.
by WTF on May 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
What I'm hoping will fade...
The amount of double plays we hit into.
Christ, we almost lead the league by double digits. It’s damn frustrating.
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Yeah, seriously, there’s no way that’s sustainable, right??
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
/starts a “roll over” chant
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
But seriously here, what’s so different than last year? We were 11th in 2009…
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It’s early. SSS I think. Unless the line-up combines actually getting on base with a tendency to hit ground balls, which seems possible.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad luck. Honestly.
There is absolutely no way that Sandoval continues to GIDP in almost 30% of his GIDP opportunities, for instance. Completely unsustainable.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I've given him a stern talking-to
it won’t keep happening.
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Don't worry!
When our OBP lowers, our GDPs will as well!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Sustainable
Tim Lincecum, the hitter and Tim Lincecum, the pitcher.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 3, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions
I move that MLB rename the Cy Young Award the Cy Young Award for Pitchers that are not Tim Lincecum but are Still Alright I Guess. Tim Lincecum gets to keep being Tim Lincecum, which means that he’s even better at life than Mike Ditka.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I agree with Romo
But not so much Huff.
For hitters, though: Pablo Sandoval. Hell, he might even end up being better than he has been so far – his SLG is down a bit from last year thus far.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Also
LOL panda defense haters. Suck on that.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Wow
Had two posts that were up on this thread a minute ago and they’re both gone.
I guess I shouldn’t have called Bengie Molina fat.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
They're back
Amazing, I called him out and they’re back. That or I need to stop drinking at work.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Rubenesque is far more appropriate.
Get to work photoshop nerd!
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
I’d suggest not doing a GIS on ‘rubenesque’ whilst at work.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Would a grilled corned beef and swiss cheese without kraut qualify as a Reubenesque sandwich?
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
This one is on sourdough instead of rye:
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That is so damn HOT!!
.
.
.
Is it toasted?
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
Yes.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
And I made the corned beef myself.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I just corned beef myself.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what happens to beef after it is consumed.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I beefed some corn earlier.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what happens when you get drunk and fall in an outhouse.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That looks fucking disgusting
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I mean
no offense to you, I just really don’t like reubens.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
It’s OK, there were people fighting over the leftovers.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
I would eat the fuck out of that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that the secret ingredient?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Nah.
It’s just the only edible part.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Invented in Omaha. No biggie.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
/dusts off cornball’s shoulder
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
No kraut...
Not a Reuben, end of discussion.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
-esque
Function: adjective suffix
in the manner or style of ; like
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Period.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Timmy is sustainable, because this is all normal fro him.
Hitter is Pablo: Hitting .337, .400 OBP, and SLG .526 while in a mini slump.
The fall off is coming from:
Pitcher: Mota, eventually someone is going to figure out his “fastball over the plate” pitching strategy.
Hitter: Is there even competition? There is no way Molina outhits Pablo Sandoval this year, I am not even sure he will outhit Renteria.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Fade
Unfortunately, I think Sanchez. Honestly, his last start in April was pretty bad; it was just some well-timed strike outs that avoided an ugly line. I think he’ll remain pretty inconsistent with his control and will get into trouble because of it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions
3 Giants will hit 20+ HR.
Sandoval
Huff
Uribe
(Bengie will stall at 19 due to Aug-Sept Posey starts)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I don’t think Huff will. See signature.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he actually say that BTW?
that’s hilarious.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
He didn’t say that. It was a day or two after one of the times he talked openly about all the home runs he was losing to the park, he struck out two or three times. I was annoyed that he was blaming his lack of power on the park, when it would help him if he’d even make contact.
So I concocted the quote for the sake of lulz.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
mission accomplised
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
or accomplished, even
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Honestly, I doubt Huff or Uribe will hit 20. I think Pablo will be the sole player with 20 homeruns.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough – the man should always dream big.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
They haven't even played in the easy HR parks yet
aside from Minute Maid
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I bet Huff does,
if they don’t stupidly replace him with Posey. He’s already hit 2 out to RF in the phonebooth, so when they go on the road he should be able to hit a few more out.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by the way, for folks who believe in Bengie based on April....
…his April splits during his Giants tenure
2007:
April: .291 / .325 / .430
Season: .276 / .298 / .433
2008:
April: .299 / .330 / .506
Season: .292 / .322 / .445
2009:
April: .329 / .321 / .592
Season: .265 / .285 / .442
2010:
April: .344 / .403 / .422
Season: ?
His OBP has dropped off in all three previous seasons after April, and his SLG has dropped off in two of the three (and very significantly in those two years). Despite having his best April AVG of the four years, he has the lowest SLG of the four this year. If he suffers a similar drop in SLG as the season goes on, it could get ugly.
But we’ll see.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
If you count the Colorado series as part of April (and you should)
.343 / .408 / .463
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I’m counting games that happened in April as part of April. Because that’s what April is.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Is not!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, wait…
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Remind me how many Aprils there are again?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends
Well there’s Paige Turco and Judith Hoag if we’re talking about the live actions and then there’s Sarah Michelle Gellar if we’re talking about animated.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 3, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll see if Bochy is serious about not overworking Molina this year. He started 17 of 22 games this April as compared with 18 of 20 last year, so that’s encouraging. The fact that Eli Whiteside is on a hot streak makes it easier for Bochy to write him in, I’m sure.
Speaking of Eli, can I pick him as my most-likely-to-fade? Call be cynical, but I just don’t see his .714 SLG as sustainable.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
I thought I heard Bochy rumbling something about with Eli catching every Sanchez start, that will give Molina the necessary rest. That seems the be the plan, at this point.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I heard rumors to that effect
but since we haven’t heard Bengie whining about it, I figured it must not have really happened.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Sanchez isn’t the ace, so maybe Molina’s ego is willing to cede the point.
Plus, right now Molina is too busy whining about the talk of Posey coming to the big leagues this year, without putting in a full 2 years in the minors like Molina had to.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I still say that report was bullshit. Some Fox Sports clown who covers the Angels has no reason to exclusively break a story like that.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
He says he has the audio, and sent it Dan Dibley. Dibley replied to a CSNBA production dude with this:
Farnham was citing sound from Benji himself. No credibility loss. Bengie spoke with @seanfarnham on Fox radio.
So there’s that. I buy it.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
What was the context?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Then why is this all limited to twitter, and not, you know. An actual journalistic outlet? If this is true, I want to see somebody grow a pair about it.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
It’s probably not all that interesting to the majority of Farnham’s audience. He mentioned it in tweet, answered a couple follow up questions from folks, and that’s that. He doesn’t have a written blog or column anywhere, so I wouldn’t expect him to go through the trouble of writing it up.
Hell, “reputable” journalists often drop a tweet here or there that doesn’t then get written up or otherwise broadcast. Doesn’t mean that they’re making shit up on twitter.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
The issue is that people are taking the tweet and passing it off as reputable journalism. Even if he doesn’t have a column, someone else who does could be looking into this: Baggarly, Schulman, whoever. I don’t care. But that it’s floating around in vague terms on twitter strikes me as irresponsible and possibly damaging.
And just as an idle thought… If it wouldn’t be interesting to his audience, why did Farmham interview “Benjy” in the first place?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Molina can deny it if he wants, but he hasn’t. Whatever that means.
I don’t really expect the Giants beat writers to do much with it – they don’t typically stir up the shit. I don’t see any of them going in and trying to get one player (Molina) to complain about another player (Posey).
But whatever. If you don’t buy it, fine. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Note that I haven’t said that it didn’t happen since you referenced the Dibley quote. It just strikes me as odd – and somewhat irritating – that nobody in the press is really bothering to cross-check this. This is the sort of crap that Rob Neyer and his ilk love to dredge up and prod at, even if they don’t cross check anything that doesn’t have an algorithm in it.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
He’s a cynic who gets paid to pull quotes from other articles, contribute nothing constructive to them, and occasionally ramble about sabermetrics and write more Tom Tango love poetry. By which I mean extra linkage.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I don't know how valid this story is
…but it does strike me as pretty consistent with Molina’s previous whining.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
A blight on the school.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
This is one probably-random split that I really hope Sabean et al. pay attention to. If they believe he’s sure to drop off in the second half, they’re much more likely to give Posey the starting job rather than making him the backup first baseman or something.
maybe it's random
But given that Bengie’s a fat catcher in his mid-30s, I don’t think it’s that improbable that he gets increasingly tired as the season progresses and his performance suffers as a result.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I’m in this line.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
/Sabean sees Avg Increase over the years, signs Molina to an extension
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Dude needs to get stronger
You know. To handle the rigors of catching a full season, so he doesn’t drop off so much.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
Pablo
not only will he maintain his gaudy average, he’ll actually start hitting for more power
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Agree.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a relief, considering he’s gotten off to such a SLOW START.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Those first two games were scary, weren’t they?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Im going to go with what i said after zito's first start this season
Gonna be lincecum’s biggest competitor for the cy
sustainable damn it
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on May 3, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions
This
BTW…watching (finally!) the Zito COL win I noticed he had three red stripes visible on his right leg…but only two on the left.
Intentional, or erroneous?
Talk amongst yourselves!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 3, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF WHOM I TALK AMONGST!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Lars prefers symmetry in sock stripes and isn’t willing to discuss it.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
/slams kdl’s avatar into the glass
So, what, while you were cozying up to the players in a shameless photo – op blitz you casually reached down and pulled Zito’s pantsleg up?
Props!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 4, 2010 4:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Bill Simmons is giving the Giants and our fans tons of credit right now on his podcast with Buster Olney.
And Bill is trying to pawn JD Drew off on us. No thanks.
I’d take him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You'd take any major league average outfielder....
but what Giants fan wouldn’t?
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure. But JD Drew is a much better than average outfielder
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
True
but that wouldn’t have been funny.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah… But he’s kind of 35.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hmmm...
JD Drew at 35 or Aaron Rowand/Andres Torres/Eugenion Velez at any age. For once it would make since for deBOCHery to go with an OBP.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
What if he were to, say, block Nate or Bowker?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Are you really asking that with a straight face?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I have an unspeakable loathing for anyone who turns 35 in November.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I find this hard to believe, considering that you are clearly putting your loathing into words.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Loathing would be ‘JD Drew is soulless monster who once expressed his distaste for baby bunnies’. All I’ve said is that I don’t particularly want him on the Giants.
Not that he ever will be.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
phew, I’ll turn 35 in april, when i turn 35 that is.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Which April would that be?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Four April’s from last? I just turned 31.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I wasn’t aware that trading for JD Drew would bind him to the team for the next ten years
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That said
Kind of hard to believe Drew is 35 already!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It is hard to believe, considering that he’s 34.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
No wonder I didn't believe it!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah but
how long can he sustain that?
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Yeah, I think this guy is available
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/drewti01.shtml
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
How naive of you.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Before the Giants agree to the trade, JD would be forced to have gamer-grit impant surgery.
JD will then be forced to miss the rest of the season.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
impant AND implant surgery.
He is getting grit and gamerocity installed in his pants.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
In the end...
He’ll have to change his name to JD Gamery-Grizzler.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s 34 for the rest of this season.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Well, then
That changes everything!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Should’ve signed him in 1994 when we had the chance!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Hearing Simmons talk about him is both hilarious and annoying
it’s stupid that people still think of baseball the way he does.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
me, too
but not for very much – big salary, injury history, old.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Could you expand...
I’m too lazy to listen to it.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
He said how good we are for sticking through the suffering. Olney said the Giants would be a fascinating team in the playoffs. Both agreed that the Giants are the kind of team to make some trades at the deadline to get offense if we’re close. Olney mentioned Posey coming up to help too.
Nothing earth shattering, but good to hear some love
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Bill is saying how we don’t get enough credit for being a tortured fan base and that San Francisco is a great baseball city. And how he didn’t realize how great the Giants vs. Dodgers rivalry was until he moved out to LA.
And my no thanks to JD Drew was because Buster Olney mentioned Buster Posey as the big trade chip.
I’d be all for JD Drew but I don’t trust Sabean to not give up Posey, Neal, or Bumgarner in a negotiation battle with Theo Epstein
At this point
I could live with a Bumgarner trade, hell it might actually be a good idea.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Would leave the SP ranks in the high minors pretty thin….
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
SP ranks being thin in the high minors...
Much better than extremely thin lineup in the major leagues. And regardless of how he’s started to bounce back, he’s still not striking out a ton of hitters.
Proud adopted parent of Jackson Williams, who'll learn to handle major league pitching by catching in AA.
Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What do you think he’d bring back in a trade?
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If Sabean's involved
not nearly enough, but if he could bring back someone like JD Drew and the Giants are in it, it might be worth it. Although right-handed power hitters do much better at AT&T than lefties.
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
If they trade Bumgarner for JD Drew,
I will kill someone.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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We can’t trade him until August anyway, iirc.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So your saying they would just make a trade in Mid July, or later, and have 1 name on PTBML listed involed in the trade.
It is not like I had already considered Sabean doing something like Madison & Wheeler for Konerko or Matsui or some such before now or anything. And I have not idea where you got that thought from.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
He’s probably worth more to us within the org than in a trade.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah
And I can’t see Sabean giving up on a first-round pick after less than a full season in the low minors.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
And he probably shouldn’t. Bumgarner deserves some time to see if he’s figured it out.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Talking about Wheeler
I’m fine with trading Bumgarner in the right deal. If he’s the piece that gets us a banger stud (like say, Adrian Gonzalez) then sure. Wheeler has been a professional pitcher for less than a month. He should be given two full seasons before they even consider considering him a bust or a tradeable asset. He was a top-10 pick. He should still be thought of as a future ace.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Oops – I guess the same point applies. Screw it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
especially since we’ve literally bought ourselves a few years to develop some more pitching in the minors now that we’ve extended the stay of many of our major league starters and bullpen.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I wouldn’t for Drew. Too old to give up Bumgarner, who is only 20 and a couple offspeed pitches from being pretty good I think (assuming his recent velocity remains). I’d deal him, but only for something younger than Drew.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember...
It’s been 56 years, anything that would get this pitching staff to the playoffs might be worth it. Even 35, err, 34 year olds.
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d take Drew, but not for Bumgarner. I just think Bumgarner is too young to give up on, and I’d rather not deplete the already depleted pitching in the minors.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Bumgarner is arguably too young NOT to give up on.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
If the trade is right, I’d give up on Bumgarner in a second. But at 34, even though he’s awesome, I don’t think Drew is worth it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I agree with you
I want Drew-but not for MadBum.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
BRING BACK JULIO FRANCO
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on May 3, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d probably do it. TINSTAAPP. And Drew is awesome.
And onsidering Drew’s salary, we might be able to pry a prospect from Boston as well. Like a Lars Anderson.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
If we get someone named Lars, I’m much more interested.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not just for your sake. We share more than just confusion over Molina.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Could we put horns on the side of his batting helmet?
If so I’m intrested.
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Lars Anderson
NOR CAL TIEZ
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I’m not a big fan of a Bumgarner trade.
These guys who cost next to nothing for 3+ years are very valuable in payroll flexibility to let you sign off the free agent market and otherwise delegate the payroll.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Yay, Giants and trades!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Lol JD Drew is still a good player, but he makes $14 mil this year and next, the Sox aren’t getting any good prospects back for him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/sob
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I fear for Thomas if he doesn’t heat up soon.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
don’t think they’d trade him while he’s cold. they’ll give him a chance to heat up. Anyway, I don’t want to have to break out this.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 3, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
No LOL
Sabean’s involved, nothing is beyond the realm of idiotic.
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Don't give him the game ball Dusty...
"You gotta win every inning"
by The Neuschler on May 3, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
that seems to be the trend on the east coast
im going to school on the east coast and only a handful of actually knowledgeable fans know of the Giant-dodger rivalry. Most think that its dodgers san diego since they are close-ish…and about the majority of them think that the two biggest rivalries in baseball are yankees-red sox and mets-phillies
le sigh
I would love to have JD Drew.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
HOW ABOUT WE TALK ABOUT IT FOR 300 POSTS
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I wish I was spoiled enough in terms of my team having a good offense to be fed up with a guy who’s hit for a 122 OPS+ since coming to my team :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
YEAH, BUT HE DOESN'T CARE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love JD Drew
but the Ralph / Mychal Urban crowd would hate him – he doesnt look FIERY out there.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
He's such a fucking moron
“DERR THE STATS PEOPLE COME UP WITH THESE ‘NUMBERS’ THAT SHOW HE’S GOOD BUT I KNOW BETTER BECAUSE OF WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE”
His show is entertaining when he’s not talking about baseball.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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jacoby is pretty awesome on that show IMO
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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I generally like the BS Report
but find the lame hour long real world pass under a microscope incredibly dull, thoughtless, and basically dumb-making machine.
Actually BS Report has been on the slide since the landmark “internet vs newspapers” episodes that should be required J-School reading.
Simmons should just get back to his columns and do two monthly podcasts one with Klosterman, and one with Mark Stein and Rick Bucher.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Jonathan Goldstein's Wire Tap
is like Barry Bonds to the BS Report’s JD Drew.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I love the klosterman ones
but the cousin sal ones during football season are some of my faves too.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
This
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
I’m ashamed. Bill Simmons is teh stupids
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As implied by the lead picture, Uribe will not continue to hit like an all-star.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hyphens piss me off.
I think I know when to use them, but it seems like the application is damned inconsistent.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hyphens can get pretty frustrating. Nouns shouldn’t require them in most cases, but some nouns have become so commonly hyphenated that the hyphenate itself has become the expected standard. All-star, for instance.
You can also make the case that “all-star” is a hyphenate because the noun is derived directly from the adjective. Which, I believe, came first.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
They are so frustrating. I remember doing a grammar presentation in high school (private school, bitches!) on hyphens. I used a Purdue University grammar guide as my main source. My teacher said half of it was wrong and wouldn’t tell me which half. I probably overuse them, but I try to reserve them for situations when descriptors can taken multiple ways. For example: “We were attacked by six foot soldiers”. Were they six foot-soldiers or six-foot soldiers? Other than that I’m pretty much left guessing.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
All I know for sure is, I saw someone in a sweet ass-car the other day.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
At their best, hyphenates remove confusion in exactly the way you describe. At their worst, they’re arbitrarily standardized to confuse the crap out of people who want to use them correctly.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I predict none (zero) career years on this Giants team.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT reply actions
Not even Lincecum?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not even Lincecum
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely not Sanchez
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you define career year?
His best year thus far was last year when he was 8-12 with a 4.24 ERA and 177K’s and 88BB’s. You think he will be worse than that this year?
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Yes
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha! That was an affirmative!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
every year by Timmy is a career year
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
What about Foppert’s Madison’s September numbers?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
you bastard
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
His career is over
Wrist injuries heal slowly, especially when you are 35.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 3, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Mole + DeRosa = 12 million x 2 seasons.
Wait, you’re supposed to be the positive one!
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Hopefully also fade...
Our caught stealing percentage. Bengie’s and Eli’s 17% are hardly inspiring confidence.
Especially because we seem to play an inordinate number of close games, giving baserunners second for free is really frustrating.
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
All Star Craziness
Since January I’ve been saying that Schierholtz is going to make the All Star team. Just not out loud because it makes me look like a crazy person. So there! Now my craziness is out in the open!
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
I think predicting Nate to hit .300 is realistic, but he’ll never be an All-star.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
…unless he gets traded to the Phillies.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 3, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Career year fluke and he gets an appearance… if he sticks around long enough. I hope he does, I have an irrational belief in his abilities.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
WELCOME, to the McCoven!
it makes me look like a crazy person
Were crazy is part of The Hive Mind.
or is the The Hive-Mind?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
I'll tentatively agree with you on Schierholtz
…and, like many here, though I don’t think he’s the next Bonds, Mays, or [insert HOF outfielder here], I do think that even his McCoven haters haven’t been giving him as fair a shot as he could get.
If anything else, his cannon arm is nice. I could watch him get Howard out over and over…and y’all know where to put your SSS.
For pitcher, I’ve never understood why we grabbed Mota or why anyone likes him. I didn’t know a whole bunch about him before this season, and what little I heard didn’t reassure me that he would be a great addition to the team. Of course, I’ll take any quality performance he can dish out if it serves this team, but I’m not at the point where I EXPECT it from him the way I would with Affeldt, or even Romo.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
With Nate
I think the problem is that it always seemed to be Bowker vs Nate for RF. And most people preferred Bowker’s apparent disciplined plate, approach to Nate’s hacking and good defense. But now the Giants have figured out that both can play at the same time, and Nate even appears to doing better with his discipline.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on May 3, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Becomes more difficult when Freddy comes back
You know they’ll want Derosa in there.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Edgar can sit his ass on the bench, and only get off of it during bench-clearing brawls
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I think Edgar and Freddy
…need to fight it out for the other starting infield spot.
you can’t sit Uribe when he’s hitting like this. So depending on who’s more productive, you either start Uribe/Sanchez or Renteria/Sanchez with the odd man out being a back-up.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
we'll see
you can’t sit Uribe when he’s hitting like this
No, but I can think of someone who can. Actually two people.
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by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
It is great to see nate doing well but i really want to see what bochy/sabean do when he has a bad week. Let’s say he goes 2/18 over the course of the road trip – are they then going to sit him?
It’s been said a million times, but the thing that pisses me off the most is that the younger OF players are not given a chance to ride out their streaks and prove if they can handle the position over the long term.
Again, i am happy for Nate, but to me, having two good weeks does not make me immediately think “all-star” or even give me much confidence to believe he can sustain similar numbers throughout the season. Just my 2 cents
The problem is...
Bowker “disciplined plate approach” has provided no evidence that he can hit at this level. I keep hoping and hoping. Nate has shown he can hit for average and has extra base power. He has not shown the ability to be selective or hit HR’s. I don’t think he’ll ever hit many homers. I’m hoping he can learn to be more selective. He has shown some positive signs this year.
As for Bowker – I think his time is running out.
Nate has shown he can hit for average and has extra base power.
A .425 SLG and 135 ISO is not something I’d brag on in a corner outfielder.
And while you’re right in saying that Bowker has not yet shown he’s a major league hitter, his ISO is still about 20 points higher than Schierholtz’s.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
You’re right, Schierholtz is not a typical corner outfielder, but if he can hit for average and somehow fanagle a .350+ OBP, I think his value as a plus defender with a plus arm make him valuable, particularly in our park where RF is especially tricky, and his decent speed has extra value because we have a center fielder locked in to the position for another 4 seasons who’s already lost a step.
He might be lacking in doublez and dingerz, but I don’t think it’s a huge stretch to say that he is probably a better fit for AT&T than a Jayson Werth or an Andre Ethier.
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Defensively, sure, hes probably better. Offensively, yeah, thats a stretch.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Note the part where I don’t say he’s better offensively.
Andre Ethier has a career UZR/150 of -7.2 in RF. In 2009, his normal UZR was -14.2. Apparently Jayson Werth actually has plus defense and a plus arm, which I find surprising. Dunno about his speed, though.
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Winn
If Schierholtz can OPS somewhere around .800, he’d be duplicating what we got from Winn in 2007 and 2008, which would be very acceptable in my book. Trying to upgrade from that would be tough given how much defense the Giants need from RF.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Maybe I have really low expectations
But I would flip a shit if we got an 800 OPS from nate.
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
dude come one… “his time is running out” … give the man a season at least before we arbitrate his fate
The Giant’s don’t give young players a whole season… ‘extended look’ is like a three week period.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe lex was just making a muse reference?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
here's some evidence
his LD rate is 21.6% this season. Quick and dirty xBABIP (LD + 12%) = .336 (unlikely to be sustainable, but still, that’s what he’s produced this year). Actual BABIP = .250. If his balls in play were falling in at the rate they’re “supposed” to, given how hard he’s hitting the ball, he’d be hitting ~.280. With his walk rate, that’s an OBP of ~.335.
This season has been largely a product of bad luck for him.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Yeah, it’s “the case every year”, except he’s never had a full year. Even if you combine all his year you don’t get a full season’s worth of PA’s.
I was promised lasagna.
Why do people not understand this?
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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Had. Chance.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Blew it.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Bowker has had his time out before the season started.
In typical Sabean/Head fashion they don’t have the courage to actually play the young guy or trade him for the cash consideration the will eventually get 12+ months from now.
I am not saying I think this is right or smart choices to make just the choices SAbean/HIEAD have made and it will take a raft of injuries and not being able to trade for some other 33+ year old P.O.S . to stop it.
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OT-- Who was it that liked Ben Roethlisberger here? Pika?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Those two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Sustainable: Freddy Sanchez. He’s actually this injured.
Mirage: Todd Wellemeyer. He’s not actually this good.
/McCoven pessimism
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FOR THE SWARM!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
HIVE-MIND!
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
Rowand
I don’t think he’ll continue to have pitchers hit him in the face with their balls at this current pace.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
There goes his dating life.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on May 3, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, depends on what kind of dating life he’s interested in.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
[Obligatory "SF is SOOOO GAY!" joke from a non-Giants fan troll]
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Slightly OT:
Dave Roberts confirms that he has Hodgkin’s Lymphoma. He says he expects to make a full recovery.
Wow. Here’s wishing Roberts the best.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on May 3, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not to diminish the significance of this news, but how is that only “slightly” OT?
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
He was a Giant, so I’m willing to say it’s at least somewhat on-topic to any baseball-related thread on the site.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh. Former Giants player. At least tangentially related to Giants baseball (as opposed to me informing you that I’ll be sitting by the pool later this afternoon, which is wholly unrelated to the Giants).
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
No way! I’ll be sitting by the pool too!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I'd rather watch can of corn st by the pool than you
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Afternoons are great
I golfed during mine. It was lovely. Best round I’ve ever played.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I know!
It’s fantastic. I can’t wait until I’m cool enough to have a standing tee time.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
pro tip
keep the sunroof on your Porsche closed when you park it at Bushwood Country Club.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW, has anyone heard an update on Brian Wilson? Is he available tomorrow night and/or for the series in Florida?
This is not a signature.
I thought they said on the broadcast yesterday that he would be available tomorrow.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I still think he pulled his groin trying to find a ninja
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Lindsey Lohan pulled Brian’s groin.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 3, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Trying to find what exactly?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
His penis
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Just follow the propeller sound
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Oh. Of course.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh KLAW...
So Bruce Bochy says that Bengie Molina can’t retire b/c he has “too much game left.” Anyone know where he left it?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I’m sure he traded it for some extra donuts.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
That guy! What a card!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ask Buster.
He probably has already picked it up.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
Sustain: Timmy and Panda
Fade: Molina and um…Zito, I guess.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 3, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
I’m beginning to think that Zito may fade a bit, but overall I’m expecting some good things, for some reason. Optimism! (I know, what a change!).
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I just realized that Zito's k/bb rate is a lot worse than I thought it was
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Well
it’s not terrible I guess, 11/24. So it’s passable.
uhh just trying to be negative i suppose. Don’t mind me
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
OT - Dave Robert has Hodgkin's lymphoma?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I believe you mean “slightly” OT.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s rough. Although Roberts was not a “good Giant,” he always played hard. Sabez was not his fault.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
or, extremely OT, whatever.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
reply fail, dammit.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/5/3/1456383/quick-starts-and-slow-fades#36637670
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
and I thought I was just Z’ing through the JD Drew conversation.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
How dare you! You missed my genius insights!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
What was the result? Do we need more outfielders, or not?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
We could always use more outfielders in their mid-30’s.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Thank goodness there are a bunch of them out there. 3/30 contracts for everyone!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
There’s nothing wrong with a 3/30 contract if the guys earns it.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
EVERYONE
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Sustainables – Hitter: I’m not counting the Panda because he’s not off to a fast start, he’s just that good. So I’ll go with Juan Uribe. He’s not just squaring everything up this year, he was good last year too. I’m going with a career resurrection for “Ahribe” as K and K call him.
Pitcher: Jonathan. I’ve been his biggest fan since forever, so I might as well continue. I really think he’s pretty much fixed his issues (I’ll just ignore the last game).
Unsustainables – Hitter: Edgar. He’s looking better this year, but yeah, he’s still not that good.
Pitcher: The incomparable Barry Zito. I think he’s gonna have a good season. But he’s not gonna be under 3.00 with his ERA.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I am a little worried about J Sanchez
Even if you ignore his last game, the game before that was not all that pretty either.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m hoping it’s just all in his head (like it seemed to be last year), and that he makes whatever adjustments he needs. His mechanics seem okay, I think. More optimism for me!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
They were basically the same game, Sanchez was just able to get enough strike outs against Phillie.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s allowed 17 hits and 18 walks in 29 IP. He’s walked way too many people. This stat will probably drop a bit. I’m not that worried as the other stuff is great.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 3, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
His walk rate was fine before yesterday’s game.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Never mind
Uh, maybe not as fine as I thought.
Still, that’s Jonathan Sanchez.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It is Sanchez. I’m worried his H/9 will go up, but hot damn that 11.5 K/9. I’m still hopeful he improves his control.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
“That’s our Johnny!”
/laughtrack
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I'd watch it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It took me a while to figure out who would fit the Mr. Feeny-esque role.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Who’s the dude on the right?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wallace Shawn
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Wallace Shawn is hilarious. And not just in Princess Bride.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Grand Nagus Zek
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I never made that connection before.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
/has never watched The Princess Bride
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh… he was Bob’s boss in The Incredibles.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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He was the guy who wasn’t Andre in My Dinner With Andre!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
And his father was a famous editor of The New Yorker.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
He was a teacher in Clueless
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I lol'd
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
/has never watched The Incredibles
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
O_O
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I’ve been meaning to catch up on Pixar movies, but I haven’t had a chance to.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Chica, you have some catching up to do. I definitely recommend watching Princess Bride.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Yeah, yeah, I know. And everyone keeps telling me that Princess Bride is an awesome movie. Is it really as good as the hype is?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not high art, but it is an extremely well made entertaining flick. I make my kids watch it with me.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
It’s one of my favorite movies, but my wife didn’t like it. Unlike me, didn’t see it until she was in her 20’s
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
I don't see how anyone could not like that movie
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I think you have to see it as a kid.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I didn’t see it until I was…16 or 17. I guess it’s a judgement call as to whether or not that counts.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Maybe
but my mom’s always loved it. And she wasn’t a kid.
SO THERE
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
but my mom’s always loved it. And she wasn’t a kid.
LOL
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s one of the very few movies that both my mom and I really loved.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that movie. Got me to read Bill Goldman’s books and everything, but if you’re expecting the greatest movie ever, you’ll be disappointed.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Mandatory viewing for my family
we have many inside jokes about that movie. It’s one of my all-time favorites. YMMV, but I absolutely love it.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
It’s better if you watched it back when. But it’s good either way.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm surprised how well it's aged, though
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I was surprised when I saw it for the first time a few years ago. I was expecting to have a Goonies level of disappointment.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
/says something that gets me banned
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
BANNED
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
There is nothing else like the Princess Bride.
You just kinda have to see it to undestand. An attempt can be made to describe it but how do you describe a fantasy film that is a comedy, drama, action flick and romance that is antediluvian at the same time. Well, I guess that does it but doesn’t do it justice.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 3, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty good capsule review
It’s very tongue-in-cheek. Not quite a parody, not quite a serious fantasy film. Pretty unique IMO. Also, you will become a fan of Mandy Patinkin, if nothing else. And RIP Andre (not the one that had dinner with Wallace Shawn).
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU KILL MY FATHER, PREPARE TO DIE
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I never watched The Princess Bride
but I have seen My Dinner with Andre with Wallace Shawn…so uh there’s that
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
He was funnier in Princess Bride.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Yeah we watched My Dinner with Andre for intro to philosophy
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Wallace Shawn is a prolific playwright, too… You can hear his voice in certain characters in his shows, but most of them are seeeeeriously intense.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Andre the Giant was funnier than My Dinner With Andre
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Clearly they should have made My Dinner with Andre the Giant.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
That would've been funny
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
not quite, but close!
Andy Kaufman did a parody of My Dinner With Andre called My Breakfast With Blassie, starring legendary (and also now-deceased) pro wrestling manager “Classy” Freddie Blassie.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
This is pretty much what I expect from Jonathan Sanchez, though, so it doesn’t worry me. He’s going to look brilliant more often than he has in the past, but he may never get the kind of consistent control we all hope he can. More than likely, he’ll always be haunted by bouts of extreme wildness.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate to use a hackneyed quote like “He’s consistently inconsistent”, but it’s true for Sanchez. There will be ups and downs, but you basically know what his line will be at the end of the season.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
According to Nate when shooting down my mom’s nice congratulations on his good season, “the season just started.” I think even he knows he can’t sustain his numbers.
His arm, on the other hand, is THE TRUTH.
My FAP/IP is pretty ridiculous.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 3, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I also want to mention Lincecum
As good as Timmy has been the last two years, he hasn’t been this good. 1.27 ERA? That’s some fairly quality pitching, I’d say.
I actually think he will have an ERA under 2.00 this year, though.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I think Nate and Sanchez are somewhat sustainable. Obviously Nate won’t be posting a .408 wOBA all year, and Sanchez won’t post a 2.48 ERA all year (though I should point out his FIP is 2.60…), but I wouldn’t find it ridiculous for them to both post three to five win seasons; Sanchez is at 1 WAR and Nate’s at 0.7 WAR already. We’ve all seen how great Sanchez’s stuff is, and we all know it’s about not walking guys. Sure, his last two starts were ugly from a control perspective, but he showed composure under pressure and the ability to limit damage (let’s teach Medders that same lesson), and his first three were excellent. 3.50 ERA and 200+ strikeouts are both reasonable and good production.
Bengie = ROFLNO. Same thing with Zito. He’s pitching with confidence now, and that curveball is still ridiculously sexy, but once he gets shelled he’ll return to form. Confidence is good, but it doesn’t make your 86 MPH fastball go any quicker, and you’re not going to K batters just by believing in yourself, no matter what Disney movies tell you.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
I think this is the year Nate breaks 2 WAR
Like I’ve been waiting for him to do for the past 2 seasons (PT permitting)
/sobs
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Nate’s BABIP so far is pretty scary; it’s Brandon Crawford in single-A territory.
I hope he does well and gets starts, though.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Good pickup? I really don’t know anything about fantasy baseball.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
His BABIP is over .500.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Over .500?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re missing a significant figure.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Scarlett?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 3, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Rhett?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT.500?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah, I did it wrong. :/
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
/crushes scouter
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dragonball Z Kai: Season 1 available on Netflix in two weeks!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It says that it will be, but I don’t yet have the Blu-Ray option on my queue.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t help but pronounce that as “Dragon Balls.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Well, that’s what they’re collecting.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
/never watched Dragonball Z, either
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Neither did I. I just know the OVER 9000 joke.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get that joke
/assumes Howie will make an OVER 9000 reference sometime soon
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
That is hilarious.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
So my question was dumb. Sucks for me!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
what’s missing in this analysis is the game by game curves for the offense, which I suspect propeller wildly.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Sustainable hitter= Juan Uribe
Sustainable pitcher= Sergio Romo
Mirage hitter=Nate Schierholtz. I really want him to be good and he has bought some good credit with me, but I still see him as a 4th OF.
Mirage pitcher=Guillermo Mota. There’s no way he’s our best MR.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I think Huff is sustainable too, I predicted him being an 800 OPS’er at the beginning of the season, and .270/.350/.450 seems about right
Sustainable pitcher = Cain I think he’ll keep a 2.84 ERA for the season, or thereabouts
mirage hitter = Mark DeRosa. He’s better than this, and he’ll do better. He’ll end the year with a .350 OBP
mirage pitcher = Medders. He’s much better than this.
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
New Bengie blog
http://bengiemolina.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/05/appreciating_it_all.html
Highlights: He does think this will be his last season in baseball because he thinks no one will give him a contract.
He also talks about why he’s been more disciplined this year.
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
That's a really funny line of reasoning
I’m way more relaxed this season. I’m not putting so much pressure on myself…. I am not expecting any clubs to sign me in the off-season – if only the Mets and Giants were interested last year, when I was coming off five straight good years, I can’t expect I’ll have any interest after this season, no matter how well I do.
So that takes the pressure off to produce big numbers because, as I have found out, numbers don’t seem to make a difference in the marketplace.
This has translated into being more patient at the plate. I’m swinging at first pitches only 11.8% of time this season, compared to 39.4% in 2009 and 31.1% over my career.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Ugh, what a douche
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
How exactly is he a douche? I, along with pretty much everyone on this board, do not think Bengie is a good player at all. But all the personal attacks thrown at Bengie seem a little unfair. Yes, he can be whiny, but that does not make him a bad guy. His teammates have nothing but nice things to say about him, he puts the team first, and he seems like a genuine family man (which is becoming increasingly rare amongst professional athletes nowadays.) He’s simply overly prideful, but it is pretty much impossible to become a successful pro athlete without a strong sense of pride and confidence. Unfortunately, Bengie has never realized that being honest with the media is not the smartest thing. Instead of keeping his mouth shut, like most athletes, he freely expresses his emotions, which makes him appear whiny. I agree with everyone that he’s a bad player, but I really wish the personal insults would stop
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on May 3, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m more on this side of the aisle.
Sorry, bondslegend.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I ammend my statement
“ugh, what a douchey thing to say”
Didn’t mean for my statement to be a referendum on the guy as a person.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Predictable
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
he needs to re-define "good"
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
-3974.621876430988812039353^4
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
are you Bengie Molina?
Seriously, I can’t think of another rational explanation for your post.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
uhm bengie?
nobody wanted to sign you because last year you had a TERRIBLE year. If you maintain your current level of production over the course of the entire season (yeah right), you will get signed again, probably by Brian Sabean.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
out of curiousity
which part of this are you disagreeing with? That he was terrible last year? That given a good year he’ll get resigned? or that sabes will be the one doing it?
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
To Start With The Only Thing You Capitalized Every Letter On.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
so
what you are saying is that you don’t think Molina had a terrible year in 2009? Ok maybe not terrible – mediocre to bad (.308 wOBA) with one of the worst OBPs in the majors, and “superb defense” to the tune of a negative 2 UZR
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
Couldn’t throw out his brother’s slow ass, so you’re probably correct.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Yeah. But he’s still not known for his speed, either.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
/think about Human Centipede
//needs to take shower
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
I think he's a fool.
His logic for his improved patience is laughable. He thinks numbers don’t count, but they do. THe most important number, OBP was his biggest problem.
If he can’t see why only the Mets and Giants were interested when he’s going into his age 36 season with one of the worst OBP’s in the majors and demanding a multi year contract for more than 10 million, he’s an idiot.
And he’s a prideful stubborn idiot to continually bring it up in public forums.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Bengie
is naturally slow, period. I’d like to see some statistical histori-garbage demonstrating him as the slowest player ever. I can’t think of one.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Leading A Pitching Sfaff Matters - Overall Bengie Last Year Was Above Average In My Judgement.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
ok
This is fair. I do tend to forget just how god-awful many catchers are offensively. Is there a quick way to see what the average wOBA or WAR or whatever stat you like was in 2009 for all MLB starting catchers? Maybe he was above average for a catcher. I still wanted to strangle him every time he hacked at slop or grounded into a double play.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
the pitching staff performed much, much better with Bengie’s backups last year.
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
I Really Doubt This.
Maybe the team ERA was better (likely not by much if so) but that doesn’t really prove your point. Bengie is the leader of the other catchers as well. The testimony of the Giants pitchers and coaching staff is much more telling in my judgment here.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't stand this argument
The testimony of the Giants pitchers and coaching staff
GRM, what do you expect them to say? Bengie can’t catch a FB up? or any other knock on his catching abilities?
They won’t.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
They Go Way Beyond Just Not Being Negative.
They clearly love pitching to him and to try and deny this is just silly.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Every pitching staff and coaching staff in baseball says the same things about their starting catcher.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Not To The Same Degree.
This is the reason Bengie is back and both Sabes and Bochy are happy to have him back.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m just saying that anecdotal evidence – and that’s all you can present – is notoriously unreliable and biased. Notoriously. It’s why we have statistics. And there are no statistics you can use to prove your case. That’s why I won’t buy your argument.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This is such an incredibly difficult to prove argument .
I don’t see the value of presenting it as anything other than opinion.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Opinion Yes, But Opinion Shared By Baseball Pros.
Personally I believe Met’s ownership interfering with their GM is why they lost Bengie to the Giants. There is really no logical reason why the Met’s did not cimmit two years to Bengie.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Appealing to authority
GRM’s favorite rhetorical strategy
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Even better: selective appeal to authority
Mets pass on Molina = ownership interference
28 other teams pass on Molina = irrelevant
Giants re-sign Molina = proof he’s good!
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
by EliminateMe on May 3, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mets Only Team With Need And Dollars
They knew Bengie was worth a two year deal but their owner decided to play hardball and lost.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Nationals also needed a catcher
They signed 38 year old Pudge Rodriguez to a 2 year/$6M contract.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
rec'd
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely everyone agrees!
Everyone agrees that Bengie is such a great catcher and pitchers love to throw to him, that’s why everyone was lining up to sign him to lead their pitching staffs.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 3, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
“In the best offseason move for the New York Mets, the Giants signed Bengie Molina”
— Keith Law
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Keith Law Is A Blowhard That Is Frequently Dead Wrong
As he was in this case.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants didn't sign Bengie Molina?!?
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Thank You For Your Amateur Scouting Report
But I think I’ll go with the pros on this one
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
+1000000
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Keith Law Is No Longer One
He is a former one fired just like Phillips and Bowden and equally worthless.
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know anyone like that.
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
by oldjacket on May 3, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Bengi is too fat
He’s lost us two games because he can catch a fastball that is a little off target.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
similarly
QBs always love their offensive lineman, at least in public.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
They really should do that behind closed doors, though. It’s not that I don’t appreciate the act. It’s just that those guys can be kind of fleshy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
There has been no study, to my knowledge, that correlated a specific catcher with the success of a pitching staff. With statistical significance, anyway.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
accoring to BP
there is no meaningful relationship between catcher and pitchers’ ERAs
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
Which of doesn’t mean that catchers can’t be a positive influence on a staff. But does that influence actually affect the results?
It just seems to me that either exceptional staff leadership is so common that every major league starter has it or so rare that the analysis doesn’t pick it up. Unless you’re sure it’s the second situation and you are absolutely sure you have the once in a generation guy with truly exceptional staff leadership (and what’s said about Bengie is said about every starting catcher in baseball), there is absolutey no reason to pay for this particular “skill”.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
+1
It almost seems like the Giants (and GRM) think that if Posey took over as catcher Lincecum’s ERA would balloon to 109 or something, when IMO Lincecum would’ve won those Cy Youngs with Pedro Feliz catching him.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
To Summarize
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on May 3, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
also rec'd
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions
oh my god this is brilliant
holy shit!!!!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
It just keeps getting better as you see everything
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I'd like to, but OMGCRTMONITOR
"I keep clicking on “See larger image”, but nothing…"
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
haha amazing
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just curious
Why is every word in your subject line capitalized even though it’s a complete sentence? It doesn’t annoy or offend me, I’m just curious as to your reasoning.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on May 3, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha
It’s just odd seeing it done that way.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on May 3, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You'll get used to it.
But it’ll still be odd.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
This sounds like....
….numbers don’t matter, so here are some numbers about how well I’m playing.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
I don’t mean to be cynical, but I have a hard time believing that Bengie gives a flying crap about his own first pitch swinging stats. I know it’s been said in the past that he actually writes that thing… but I just don’t know if I believe he actually wrote that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But why? Me guessing that an athlete’s whatever is ghost written isn’t exactly controversial bullshit.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
-2
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions
:(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to ding you another -2 for frowning… it’s Molina-esque.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s it. I’m writing an extended LJ entry about this crap right now.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
just keeping the math going
how about -1*(1+1)?
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
-1/(-1+1)
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s only a matter of time before the quadratic commenting commences….
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well figure it out and get back to me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He must have
nowhere else keeps that data publicly, as far as I know…
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
Susan provided him with a printout.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Bengie, but he never seems to miss an opportunity to publicly feel sorry for himself.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
This is interesting. It has some flavor of “Look at how great I am but nobody appreciates it”. It makes me feel funny. And not in the good way.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 3, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
+109
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m really not a fan of that. I know that most players don’t much stock in statistical analysis, but it seems that Bengie really doesn’t appreciate why he wasn’t highly sought after. It seems silly to still be petulant about that.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Exactly
Last year’s pathetic OBP combined with his inability to run and declining defense made Molina attractive only to inept GMs, one of which (Sabean) signed him.
Molina is not NEARLY as good as he and Sabean thinks he is, in fact, the best business in the world would be to buy Molina for what he’s worth as a ballplayer and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth.
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think people, including Bengie, are looking at his perceived value wrong. Bengie had no suitors last season in part because he was very vocal about wanting a multi-year deal.
Molina, not unlike Jermaine Dye, incorrectly assessed the market and expected that a catch of his age and skillset would find many suitors. But with his defense on the decline, his value lies in his ability to manage a pitching staff, and his ability to hit for power relative to his position. People see positional value, but as hitting tends to decline after age 30 or so, multi-year deals are very unpopular for such players unless they are a so-called “big bat” or play for the Yankees.
If Bengie opens himself to one-year deals and transitions into a backup role as he gets older and isn’t able to start as many games, he could probably play until he’s 38 or so.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
+1
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
+1
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
It Is Called Taking Pride In One's Work.
An athlete can not succeed without having this much pride.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
This is false.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I Love This!
It is honest, human, and reflective. Bengie is that man!
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I just like how you went through and minus-one’d everyone else and then responded like as such. Honest, human and reflective? it sounds like it was written by an intern.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
An intern wrapped in mylar.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d hope that the intern would be fired, then. Nobody should be purposefully making Molina look like a complainer. I can appreciate how he discusses his increased patience on first pitches. If that’s the case, then good for him for developing that at this point in his career.
The only part I take issue with is the “nobody wants me, everybody hates me, I think I’ll eat some worms” attitude regarding interest in him in the off-season and his perceived prospects after this season. Instead of “I can be the most awesome player on the planet (which he’s not) and nobody will sign me anyway,” it would have been preferable to see a “Trying to do the best I can, helping the team, etc.” kind of theme.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
You Did See The Later And You Are Overstating The Former.
I for one love Bengie’s pride as it is a great motivator and is actually leading him to grown (learn the value of a walk) this year. Bengie is right that he was overall an above average catcher last year and should be even better this year with the new trick this old dog is learning.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
“I take pride in my work” is fantastic. “I take pride in my work and nobody appreciates me and I don’t understand why” is whiny.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I See It As Both Honest And Correct.
I am sure you would “whine” just as much if you were denied a promotion or raise you knew you deserved. Frankly, if you didn’t you would just be priving yourself to be to weak and not have enough self pride to stand up for yourself.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No, if I whined about it at the office and in the press, I would be seen as a petulant child and deservedly so.
And I don’t agree that he was due a promotion or raise.
His weakness is his inability to man up and quit complaining about his perceived lack of worship. He’s self-indulgent in his constant pouting about his treatment. He’s making 4.5 frakkin’ million dollars (with the potential to be $6mil). His whining is out of place and unprofessional.
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He Ain't Whining About The Giants
He specificly stated how happy he is to be a Giant again. I have no problem with him having and holding a grudge against other teams as this can only serve to keep him motivated to kick their asses.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sure you would "whine" just as much if you were denied a promotion or raise you THOUGHT you deserved.
Do you really think Bengie Molina deserved a significant raise or a three year contract after last year?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
2 Year Deal At 2009 Salary Yes, 3 Years And A Raise No.
In my view he is right to be upset that he did not get the former.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Even though Buster Posey will be ready, at the latest, next year? It wouldn’t make sense to keep Bengie if we have a better, cheaper catcher.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on May 3, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I Am Not Talking About The Giants. But The Mets Should Have Done This.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
New theory: GRM is actually Omar Minaya.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
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why should they have done that, when they ended up signing Rod Barajas, who has been a worse, yes, but a super worse hitter over the last three years (Bengie 90 OPS+ versus Barajas 81 OPS+) for cheaper than even the Giants ended up signing Bengie?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
*not a super worse
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Can't Match Bengie's Ability To Lead A Pitching Staff
And as you pointed out doesn’t match Bengie offensively either.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He led a Toronto Blue Jays staff that was, last year, extremely devoid of talent and experience (outside of Halladay) to a league average ERA in the AL East last year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Nobody else can lead a staff
didn’t you get the memo? The world crumbles if Bengie is not catching.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Yes he can
The Giants pitching staff is extremely talented and Bengie leaving wouldn’t take away their talent.
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Talent Indeed Would Not Change But Results Could Very Well Change.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Toronto pitching staff 2005 w/o Bengie: 110 ERA+
Toronto pitching staff 2006 w/ Bengie: 105 ERA+
Toronto pitching staff 2007 w/o Bengie: 115 ERA+
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Meaningless Since These Staffs Were Not All The Same
Even the pitchers that pitched all three years were subject to different health, experience and luck levels.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit you are ridiculous sometimes
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Well yeah
but didn’t wanna be too big of a douche
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Why?
They all still have the same talent. Zito and Sanchez didn’t/don’t like throwing to Bengie (Whiteside was Zito’s personal catcher last year IIRC) plus Righetti & Bochy have seen these guys pitch so even if Posey (as an example) was that bad then the bench could call the pitches.
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Bengie Has Caught Every Zito Start Thus Far In 2010
Whiteside has caught 3 of Sanchez’s 5 starts and 1 each of Cain’s and Wellemeyer’s 5 and 4 starts respectively thus far this year. Whiteside did catch Zito alot in the first half of last year and Sanchez alot in the second. I see nothing that can be drawn from these patterns that suggest any of the pitchers actually perfer Whiteside over Molina.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, Eli Whiteside has caught the last 4 Sanchez games. The only game Bengie caught was Opening Day.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 4, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
That's why I said
Whiteside was Zito’s personal catcher last year
And still doesn’t answer my question-why couldn’t the bench call the game until Posey gets aquainted with the staff?
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Not Self Pity - Just Stating The Truth.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
the only reason he would bring up his contract situation would be to get the reader to think, “man, this guy got a bum deal”
Plus, sorry dude, you get paid for what you will do not what you have done.That’s business, and just be thankful you’re in a business where that still spells multi-million dollar contract for for a guy who’s a poor bet to produce.
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
Benie Is Producing In 2010 And He Will Continue To Do So.
His level of production may level off but I believe the improvement in walk rate is real and will be sustained. Bengie was above average last year and is likely to be even more valuable this year in my judgment.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is great
And I hope he does keep producing. It’s good for the team. However, there was absolutely no reason other than blind faith to believe that he would be so much better this year.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
he’s had a good month, but he’s still a bad bet. His defense has been in sustained decline and his SLG is really his only offensive tool. And he’s 35 year old catcher in terrible shape. I have a hard time imagining what GM would have found that package a good idea to throw a multi-year deal at.
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
Combined PB And WP Are Lower Then The Average NL Or MLB Catcher
His CS rate is indeed very low but the blame for this lies with the pitchers. Johnny Bench in his prime would not have gunned out very many more.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a combination of the pitchers and a slow catcher. Not just the pitchers. (Though I will give you that our pitchers are pretty terrible with their mound-plate time).
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by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
For Our Pitchers It Goes Way Beyond Just Their Time To The Plate
They are frequently letting runners get jumps that start well before they even begin their time to the plate.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Zito, Sanchez, and Tim get very repetitious with their looks to the runner. One game, I counted Zito looking at the lead runner on 2nd with one look 9 pitches in a row.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny Bench in his prime
would probably have told his pitchers to get their act together and stop giving away so many damn bases.
But then, they might have gotten mad at him and not said nice things about him to reporters.
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“Benie Is Producing In 2010 And He Will Continue To Do So.”
Someone arguing with GRM = displaying their bias
GRM stating that a fat 35 year old catcher with limited skills “will continue to (produce)” – not that he might, or that he probably will, but that he simply WILL = “Just Stating The Truth.”
It really is like arguing with a brick wall.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Also: can't even spell his name right
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Just Trying To Avoid Having to Restate This Over And Over.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
But isn’t minus-one’ing every single comment exactly that?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No, The Details Are Not Being Provided Every Time.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How can you possibly suggest that Bengie did not write this?
What the fuck is that!?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
These are making me lol
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So i guess i should have read the thread before I posted this too.
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by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
People here are way too hard on Bengie. He’s venting on a blog, give the guy a break. A lot of people, probably most people, have a hard time dealing with their skills and their relevance diminishing as they age. Professional athletes have it particularly hard since it happens to them when they’re so young.
Maybe it’s better for him to write “go team go!”, but I appreciate his candor. I thought he had some especially nice posts around the time his father died; it wasn’t fantastic writing, but similar to here, it seemed like an honest perspective from someone dealing with something difficult.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
Great, now we’re at zero.
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by Natto on May 3, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
/starts dividing.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
+3
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
+109
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 4, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Too many numbers
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
It’s not a one time event. He has been complaining about this sort of thing for a very long time, seemingly at every chance. It’s not venting – he is making conscious statements.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
He's, as we like to say in the business,
being a total bitch.
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He’s done it before, and he certainly overestimates his abilities as a baseball player, but saying he complains “seemingly at every chance” is an overstatement. This blog post is almost entirely about how he’s more relaxed this season and happy to be playing for the Giants. There’s definitely an undercurrent of bitterness in what he’s been saying over the last year or two, but I think it’s understandable for the reasons in my previous comment. I don’t think he deserves all all the scorn heaped on him here.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
Okay then – why didn’t he just talk about how relaxed he’s been this season, instead of complaining about how he’s been treated and how he’s expecting to be treated? It’s not like this was a live interview – it’s something he wrote, and presumably re-read before he hit post. He’s taking the opportunity to publicly air his butt-hurt feelings. Yes, “every chance” is an overstatement (hence my use of the word “seemingly”). He certainly whines more than the average professional baseball player.
Whether or not his bitterness is understandable is not the issue. The issue is how he consistently complains about his perceived poor treatment based on his over-inflated sense of worth.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Well, I think he’s just writing what’s on his mind, probably just because he enjoys it. He’s a baseball player, not a media personality. And besides, there’s actually very little complaining in the blog post under discussion.
In the past couple years he has definitely complained a fair amount, and some of the things he’s said in the past (especially regarding Posey) have been objectionable. But with this and the tweet earlier, I think people are overreacting when there’s not a lot there.
Basically, I have respect for the guy because he seems honest and doesn’t speak in cliches. He seems like a decent man, so I don’t like to see him so maligned. Unfortunately, while I think he’s more interesting than most baseball players, he’s also not as good at baseball as most baseball players, so I hope this is indeed his final year. I’d much rather watch Posey behind the plate.
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This whole argument about Bengie's intangibles reminds me of this:
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That’s spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn’t work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It’s just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don’t see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
Except In This Case The Vast Majority Of Baseball Managers (If Not All) Think Like Homer.
When this is the case it is hard for me to believe that those not seeing what they are seeing are the ones not missing something.
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Show your work.
Give me a quote from every baseball manager that thinks Bengie is a good “leader of a pitching staff.”
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 4, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there is a lot of overreaction to this Bengie's post
He believes (incorrectly) that he had five “good” years. He believes that he should have been compensated for that. The problem isn’t that he bitches about it (I don’t think this qualifies as bitching), but that he is ignorant as to why he isn’t a good player. Probably 90% of MLB players don’t really understand how good/bad of players they really are.
After an offseason where nobody shows any interest in you, I think that you would say the same thing – I think it is an honest statement.
I am intrigued by this ideas that he is aware of how patient that he has been this year compared to previous years, though. As I stated in the comments WAY below, I am VERY cautiously optimistic about him.
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on May 4, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Some predictions non-Giants related
Sustainable: The Giants will be the only team to utterly destroy Roy Halladay this year.
Non-sustainable: The New York Mets.
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is anyone who is non-white allowed into Fenway? just askin'
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
only Phil Lynott
But he isn’t allowed in anymore.
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Anyone read Bengie's Blog post today?
STATZ! – This has translated into being more patient at the plate. I’m swinging at first pitches only 11.8% of time this season, compared to 39.4% in 2009 and 31.1% over my career.
and this
I am not expecting any clubs to sign me in the off-season – if only the Mets and Giants were interested last year, when I was coming off five straight good years, I can’t expect I’ll have any interest after this season, no matter how well I do.
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by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
Yep
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/5/3/1456383/quick-starts-and-slow-fades#36642195
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lulz.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I finally made it through the thread….an hour and a half later to see that someone also posted it.
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by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I stopped reading the fantasy genre years ago.
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
indeed
I can’t expect I’ll have any interest after this season, no matter how well I do.
So by the time he fades out the Long Island Ducks should be ready to upgrade their pitcher-handling. Adios, amigo.
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by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Hitter: I’ll go with Uribe… not quite this good but pretty damn good all year long. And that’s too bad because the way this organization operates he’s about to be forced out of the lineup by Freddy Sanchez and Edgar Renteria.
Pitcher: God help me I think I’m gonna take… Barry Zito. Hope I didn’t just jinx him…
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by Smoke on the Water on May 3, 2010 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
Randy Winn hit a HR?
god damnit
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
2009 Randy Winn
HRs through one game: 1
HRs over next 161 games: 1
That was tough to watch.
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Sabean Special
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 3, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
?
Randy Winn was worth like 13 WAR over the course of his Giants career. Sabean did a good job bringing him over.
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Yeah he was a really valuable player until last year. Even last year, he wasnt terrible. And we really didnt give up much for him. Foppert hasnt done anything, and Torrealba is steady but nothing special. That was a good move on Sabean’s part.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agreed
His complete power outage last year was mystifying and painful, though. As was his collapse as a right-handed hitter.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
he'd still be valuable
if the Giants had three starting outfielders to play in front of him.
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by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
John Sterling’s play call made me want to vomit… like he has been dying to blurt it out…
something like ‘a home run from Randy… to help the Yankees Winn!’
ugh
John Sterling is an utter clown. And not in a good way.
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I'm really happy for him, actually
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It's a lot easier to hit a HR in yankees stadium than the phone booth
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Is there fire?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Smoak on the Water?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You see that Harden play on Chavez’s GB?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
That’s crazy, I’ve never seen umps bring a play back like that..
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
See the slow-mo of Harden’s face snickering back at Chavez as he missed the bag?
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by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
lol that was hilarious
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You don’t see that everyday, for sure.
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by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I have harden in POKEMONZ
so I was glad it was an error anyways
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No.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't before
But I do now. And thanks. Eric Bana-Chavez will now haunt me in my dreams.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Nah.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Hector
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BEAT LA
MV3!!!
Dubbs
I'm glad he's a good hitter
But I’m not really concerned with the quality of his love-making.
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2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
He’s like a male praying mantis in that regard.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 3, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with projections is . . .
. . . that it’s very difficult to realistically estimate playing time. That’s why statmeisters don’t all get rich in Las Vegas: injuries, trades, managerial whims.
There is also the question of whether career numbers accurately capture a man’s current ability. In the great majority of cases, they do, and that’s what much of analysis derives from; but occasionally—especially for young players, and most especially young pitchers, or, once in a while older career minor-leaguers—something may have changed.
You can inspect the current Giants’ roster’s career data or their 2010 YTD data, but there is no simple way to combine player TOPs for a team TOP (or TPP, as applies); in essence, you need to separately average the OBA and TBA figures, then combine them for a team result.
Right now, the team has, in 24 games, scored 108 runs, whereas their actual quality of play suggests 113 runs should have scored, a 4.4% difference that, at this early point in the season, amounts to “pretty close”. They have given up 70 runs, compared to a quality of pitching that would normally yield 75 runs—a 7% or so difference that means they have been a little—but not a lot—lucky in pitching results.
If we look instead at what we might expect from career stats, pro-rated for actual playing time to date, on offense we see that perhaps 106 runs would have been expected compared to their 113 actual, so on offense we find that regardless of individual ups and downs, the team net is actually fairly close to what would be expected—and what they have actually scored (108) is almost identical to projection. (It is the fact that individual-player ups and downs do normally come close to cancelling that makes it possible to “engineer” teams based on career stats.)
I haven’t yet looked at pitching career pro-ratings, but may if I remain energetic.
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That’s why statmeisters don’t all get rich in Las Vegas: injuries, trades, managerial whims.
I thought it was because few casinos are located in moms’ basements.
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And . . .
. . . does that have any meaning when translated into English?
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It’s something of an MCC tradition to refer to either (a) stats gurus or (b) ourselves as being nerds who live in their moms’ basements. Sarcastically, that is.
Just referencing that in the form of a slightly awkward sentence.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Ah.
Of course, some stats people have—albeit figuratively speaking—lived in the basement of a major-league ballpark . . . .
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no basement in AT&T!
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by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Just curious...
Were you born without a sense of humor, or did you have to have it surgically removed?
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And the bad news is . . .
. . . that a first-blush look suggests that the staff is currently about 20 runs under what career projections suggest. Mind, it’s not really news that even this team is not likely to end the season with a staff ERA well under 3, but it is a bit disheartening—that disparity is 135 runs when pro-rated to 162 games.
Still, the outlook is remarkably optimistic. Indeed, I’m surprised by it, but perhaps post-season is possible, after all.
But remember the rock and the hard place: poor finish, or many more years of this same management.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Well, the management has survived poor finishes before anyway. I doubt they’re going to get fired anyway.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
So, you expect the pitching to regress somewhat from current levels, but the hitting to pretty much hold up?
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Well:
One never knows. As was quite often, over a certain decade or two, heard spoken in a lively voice in Bay Area baseball pressboxes, “That’s why they play 162!” But if we take career data as a reasonable baseline, yes, that’s how it looks at the moment. But . . . that’s based on allocations of playing time equal to what they have been to date.
As time goes by, certain players will do better, and other players will do worse. The essence of prognostication is the belief that over 25 or more men, the ups and downs largely average out. As with any statistical array, there is a Gaussian spectrum: a few teams will do much better or worse than projected, some will do rather better or worse, and most will do about as expected give or take a little. One cannot know in advance into which category a given team will fall in a given year, any more than one can foretell which 162-trial run of coin tossing will yield an unusually high fraction of heads or tails.
As always, the smart money is on the past predicting the future, but never at long odds.
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I refuse to root for my team to do poorly. Infuriating as Bochy and Sabean can be, if they get the goddamn team to the playoffs, then they’re doing their jobs.
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off-topic if I may
My wife and I are going to New Orleans this weekend. Yay. Haven’t been out of Tallahassee since we got here in goddamned December.
Any suggestions on stuff to do from the McCoven?
Downside: we’re missing a chance to see Posey and the rest of the Fresno Grizzlies play in town by one day. :(
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Hit up Sean Payton’s vicodin stash
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
I had to use Google to figure out who that was. LOL NERD.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I mentioned previously that the cemeteries are kind of cool. The above ground mausoleums are nifty. Plus, you can find the voodoo queen’s tomb (Marie Laveau, in Saint Louis Cemetery Number 1).
We ate at NOLA when we were there – good food, but it’s been a long time since we went, so I can’t vouch for whether it’s worth it to go.
And of course, go sit and have coffee and a beignet at Cafe du Monde. Lord, those beignets are tasty.
And also, if you can, book a swamp tour and get a look at some gators. Also cool.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I remember
a fantastic walking tour around the Cabildo and the French Quarter. Maybe this one? It’s been over ten years so I forget:
http://www.friendsofthecabildo.org/
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by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
steer clear of the oil slick
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 4, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought about going through and -1ing every GRM post in this thread just for shits and giggles
But fuck it, I’m tired.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Sort of playing down to the level of the competition, that.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Um, wha?
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
IAWTC
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Stray Dodgers fan.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Waka Waka eh eh!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 3, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Rich Harden throwing a no hitter through 5 in oakland
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
Pythagorean W-L???
Grant, aren’t you betraying your own cardinal rules regarding sample sizes? I think that extracting conclusions based on statistical trends from a season that is less than %15 over is misguided. Something you tend to agree with yourself.
QUICK!
GIMME A THREAD RECAP!
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by sadison bummedgarner on May 3, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions
-1
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was the thread recap.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
psssssssh
-1
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by sadison bummedgarner on May 3, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Way too much arithmetic tonight
I ain’t no arithmetician!
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Grant tried to have a serious post
Bengie called the MLB owners HATERS who should READ HIS BLOG
GRM is stubborn even when presented with facts to the contrary. Doesn’t value others opinions
Stuff.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
So you're saying blame Grant?
Seems like a plan
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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Quick summary:
The thing is, it happened.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
tim alderson pitched tonight vs. the AA flying squirrels
5 IP 9H 5R 4ER 8 K’S
LOL 5.84 ERA
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by sadison bummedgarner on May 3, 2010 9:49 PM PDT reply actions
Good thing we traded him
Too bad we didn’t actually get anything in return.
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yeah
fuck that guy who’s been worth 6.1 WAR over the past three seasons
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
to be fair
we traded tim alderson for 25 games from freddy sanchez
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by sadison bummedgarner on May 3, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean
the guy we declined the option on and signed to a market value contract? No way the Pirates were picking up that option.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
No they tried to sign him to a team friendly extension right before the deadline
and he (and Jack Wilson) both declined, so what I am saying is that Sabean had obvious leverage and still fucked up that trade.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
That's more or less what I'm saying
only without the leverage part.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Yeah that "no" should've been a "yes"...I was agreeing with you about the Pirates declining his option
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Okay, I’ve been confused about this for some time. I thought Franchez had a PLAYER option, not a club one. Again, I’m not going to defend that assertion to the death, it’s just what I remember hearing back in October and November.
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I remember it as a club option
Cot’s confirms this.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I could have sworn it was a player option, owing to the fact that everybody expected the $8 million option to be picked up, and Sanchez obviously liked it in San Francisco.
And no, you don’t need to tell me who would be stupid enough to pick up an option like that.
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My lost son. :(
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8K 0BB in 5IP
That looks pretty good.
When does Sanchez come back?
Oh we are actually going to be worse when he does come back?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I got so distracted by all the -1 +1 that I forgot what I came to say
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 3, 2010 10:18 PM PDT reply actions
+1
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
-1
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
0
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ubaldo Jimenez: Not bad
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 10:25 PM PDT reply actions
Fuck
My calculator died
whats 64 × 16?
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions
your computer doesn’t have a calculator?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Probably somewhere. I ended up having to work it out on paper though.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL OLD SCHOOL
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh. I’m not at all certain I can do division by hand anymore.
by non sequitur on May 3, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, by old school, I meant, like, 1800s.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
In the old days, they made you memorize tables and work stuff out in your head.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s just like when Gesar and Zabulon and Svetlana can’t even perform a beginner’s spell.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So Anton makes the compass on his own.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think I’ve read that book.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that Grant hasn’t.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Can Grant read?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No. But he writes well. It’s a rare combination.
by non sequitur on May 3, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure he uses Dragon Naturally Speaking Speech to Text Technology to write all of his front-page stories.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And now his grades have gotten better and he’s more confident, too! I promised him the keys to my car so he could go on the date.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Golly! You sure are a swell person, Howie.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 3, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You can't do that in your head?
64×10=640, then 4×64=256, 640+256=896….DUH!
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Oops thought it was 64x14 LOL
So anyway,
10×64=640, 6×64=384, 384+640=1024
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Hey my mac has a calculator
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He needed a GOOD calculator.
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Really?
I thought all Mac users were “creative types” and I know “creative types” don’t need calculators.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
Mac System One
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
My head got it right!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
1024. No thanks to anyone here.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 3, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
DO YOUR HOMEWORK YOUNG MAN!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
LOL no multiplication
64 × 6 + 640
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Not meaning to nitpick
But by using Pythagenpat instead of Pythagorean, the Giants should have 14 wins right now (if my math’s correct).
/hopes his pythagenpat spreadsheet isn’t f’ed
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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I Don't See How A 39 Run Differential In just 24 Games Can Equate To A Sub .600 Winning Percentage.
I would bet alot you did this wrong.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I Would Bet You Didn't Go Through Your Own Calculations
And the Giants W% from my calculations is around 59.5. So suck it GRM.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I Don't Buy It.
No way 38 runs in 24 games equally this few wins.
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
38 Runs In An Average Run Environment In 24 Games Should Equal 4 Wins Above 12 Wins
The Giants actually play in a much lower run environment then average and thus in their case it should equal almost 5 wins above 12 Wins.
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
It Doesn't Matter If YOu Buy It Or Not
You believe what you want to believe in spite of evidence. You are not worth anyone’s time here.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Where Is Your Evidence? You Have Not Shown your Work.
Right now I don’t have the tools available to me to do exponents and I am sure not going to try and do them longhand when simple logic shows that your results make no sense.
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Translated To A Full Season
Your math would say that a team scoring 729 runs (4.5 pg) while allowing just 473 runs (2.92 pg) would only win 97 games. This is an insanely low number of wins for this kind of dominance. A team scores 256 more runs then they allow in this low of a run environment and this is all they win? Open your eyes! You just had to have make a math error in your calculations. Your results make zero sense.
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
You're right
My apologies. I had wrong component in the X value.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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No Problem. I Have Made More Then My Fair Share Of Simular Mistakes.
How many wins should the Giants have thus far?
by giantsrainman on May 4, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
About 16 after rounding up
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Two main problems
Since the Giants continue to play low scoring games, they have to work on two problems: grounding into double plays and allowing stolen bases. They lost games in SoCal because of both of these weaknesses. It shouldn’t be too hard to hold runners on, and moving runners over should be an option for most of the line-up.
Giants are ranked 8th in this week’s ESPN Power Rankings behind the Rays, Yankees, Cardinals, Twins, Tigers, Phillies and Padres.
And why does ESPN.com allow itself to be spammed by some dude named Chris Quick. Who is this dude anyway? (BTW, I know)
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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xanthan wuz right?
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"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Sustainibles:
Baron Zorak Von Pickoff Iron Glove. He is what he is at this point and what thought he was most likely to become.
Huff!?!. I really though this guy was going to be complete waste of play time and make Ishi look like a heavy hitter. I am still not thrilled about his pick up but got to give credit where credit is due.
Drop off:
Rosa Sanchez: This is pretty much what I thought we would get but we are only get half a helping of it! That can’t last on a HIEAD team.
Molinia: Enjoy the ride while the quarters last kiddies.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
DeRosa needs to go on the DL
….when Sanchez comes back. He needs to get healthy, if possible.
-if Molina is forced to bat cleanup, he will be the same guy he was last year.
-Uribe is gonna see a lot more changeups; but he will be the second best hitter.
-Huff is gonna get some HR’s on the road, and will end up with 12-15. His BA will be .250ish and OBP .335
-Rowand is gonna slide into oblivion as a hitter.
-Nate will hit .290 with OBP of .325
-Bowker will get more PT with DeRosa and Rowand doing poorly; he will hit .250 with .320 OBP, and 6 HR. He and Torres will split time.
Renteria will hit .280 with OBP of .310, and GIDP x 20
-Panda will continue to hit well but will injure himself on the bases, and go on the DL.
-opponents will continue to try to steal, because that is what you do against great starters. It’s not Bengie’s fault, the pitchers don’t hold the runners well enough, but they will get better.
-Sanchez will continue to have occasional poor outings, but fewer. He will finish with an ERA of about 3.3. That will be the highest of the starting top 4.
-Cy Young of course, for Timmeh.
-Giants will win the division by 4 games over the Rockies, Pads will be third.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Since this post is all about jinxing
I won’t feel bad saying that Zito will fade.
Zito is Zito.
Look behind the shiny WINZ and ERA. He has a .209 BABIP against, has not given up a homerun even though historically he is a flyball pitcher, and he is leaving more guys on base than he has since 2002. Oh, and he is walking less batters than he ever has.
Nate will be about as good as he has in the previous couple of years, which is to say a fairly poor hitter and a great outfielder. His BABIP is a ridiculous .404 right now.
I think Huff will have a fine year. Nobody is going to be giving him MVP votes, but he won’t be the PROBLEM – we got rid of that guy already.
Between Rent and Franchez, there will be some significant injury issues that may or may not lead to DL time.
DeRosa will struggle with this wrist all year and never go on the DL.
Rowand will continue to look funny while batting. His stance is weird too.
J. Sanchez will be brilliant and horrible. But I think the brilliance is going to outweigh the horrible this year.
Cain won’t have the as good of standard numbers as last year, but will be basically the same pitcher he always is, good and steady.
I am VERY cautiously optimistic about Molina.
Runzler, Romo, and Brilson will continue to be awesome at the back end. Affeldt is going to regress and be the mediocre pitcher he really is.
Pablo is a Crazy Attack Panda.
Timmy is a golden god.
The offense will suck, the pitching will be good. Water is wet.
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on May 4, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions
Giants Futures
Hitters:
Scheirholtz: SELL
Panda: HOLD
Molina: SELL
Huff: WEAK SELL/HOLD
Renteria: SELL
Uribe: SELL
Bowker: BUY (well, after you shoot Bochy)
Torres: HOLD
DeRosa: BUY
Velez: DFA
Pitchers:
Medders: Buy
Wellenmeyer: Hold
All Others: Sell, unless you believe the Giants have the best defense in history. Every single one of the Giants pitchers has an xFIP and FIP higher than their ERA.
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I'd like to short 50,000 shares of Molina, LLC
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Mehders
All purchases final.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 4, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Molina’s not going to keep up this pace. As already noted, he did this last year, and the year before. He always starts hot. But his body doesn’t hold up.
Career splits for Bengie:
Mar/Apr: .300
May: .285
Jun: .278
Jul: .250
Aug: .278
Sep/Oct: .278
There is some fluctuation from year to year (of particular note is his godawful May 2009, where he hit .200), but the trend has become more consistent as he has come to the Giants and continued to age. He starts strong, drags the Giants’ offense through the first month or two of the season, gets tired, slumps for most of the summer, gets some time off for injuries, and picks it up a bit towards the end of the season. Speaking generally, he is a player who fades down the stretch. His weight and the demands of catching 130+ games a season just wears him down.
Luckily, we have a hitting catcher who’s going to be out of Super 2 eligibility in June, and Bengie gets paid extra if he catches 115 games this season. I’m more or less counting on the transition to Posey as the starter as Molina starts to slump in June.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Posey accumulated 3 weeks of service time at the end of last year, he won’t be out of super 2 eligibility until at least July.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
From the MLBPA:
A player with three or more years of service, but less than six years, may file for salary arbitration. In addition, a player can be classified as a “Super Two” and be eligible for arbitration with less than three years of service. A player with at least two but less than three years of Major League service shall be eligible for salary arbitration if he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season and he ranks in the top 17 percent in total service in the class of Players who have at least two but less than three years of Major League service, however accumulated, but with at least 86 days of service accumulated during the immediately preceding season.
His service from 2009 should only affect his Super Two status if those three weeks put him in the top 17% of players with less than 3 years of service, which seems doubtful if he comes up in June.
Mark Reynolds was (I believe) the player who barely missed the cutoff for eligibility last season, and his debut was May 16th, 2007. So I think Posey will be clear of it in mid-June. And either way, if Molina starts slumping badly and Eli goes back to being Eli, odds are Posey will get the call one way or the other.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
or not
if Molina starts slumping badly
He will still start his 115 games and get his bonus. I could see them shipping Whiteside to Fresno and letting Posey platoon with Huff or catch in the bullpen.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 4, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
If they intended to use Posey as a backup, he’d already be in the bigs. If he comes to the majors, he’ll be getting regular PT, and Huff is going to be more serviceable down the stretch than Molina.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
God what a fucking joke that was
they totally screwed themselves over by calling him up to sit on the bench. Jesus christ.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
It was kinda pointless, basically they were thinking, “maybe we could win over fans if we brought him up at least”
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I think they might have also been thinking along the lines of letting him get over being in the ML early, so when they call him up to play he’s not starstruck. I still don’t like it.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 4, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
What is sad is Molinia was lobbying for an extension and that to played into why they brought Buster up; to prod Molinia into playing and to pipe down. It is sad because here the team has a hot shot, maybe elite, level prospect and all Sabean/HHIIEAADD can do is worry about how to convert his play time into a 35 year old journeyman vet for a pseudo pennant push. It has been said before around here but it is true: June and & July is going o be a very scary time be true Giants fan.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 27%
No you are wrong,
Didn’t you read GRM’s posts from above?
Bengie is the best thing to ever wear shin guards. His hitting for April is totally sustainable, and anyone who says otherwise is wrong because they don’t run the Giants. They may run the Mets, though.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
MONDAY, 2:19pm: FOX Sports’ Jim Bowden tweets that Giants manager Bruce Bochy says Molina was just posturing.
SATURDAY, 8:37pm: Giants catcher Bengie Molina says that he will likely call it a career in the majors after the 2010 campaign, tweets Sean Farnham of FOX Sports Radio. Molina added that he is unhappy with the way the Buster Posey situation has been handled.
The news is surprising considering Molina’s play so far this season. The 35-year-old is hitting .344/.403/.422 in 72 plate appearances. With that kind of offensive production, it’s hard to imagine that the veteran really wants to retire.
A shade over two weeks ago, Molina expressed his frustrations with how his free agency played out this offseason. After turning down a $5.5MM offer from the Mets, Molina ultimately chose to stay in San Francisco for $1MM less. While his 80 RBIs impressed some, his .265/.285/.442 slash line didn’t lead to a multiyear offer.
Trade him at the deadline!
I would DFA him at this point. I am tired of listening to him whine. And the fact that Bochy is being forced to cover for Bengie’s horrible attitude in the press should be a huge red flag. Bengie pouted and sat out in the middle of a wild card race last year. I see no reason why he won’t do the same this year.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Threatening to retire. That’ll work.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 4, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU’RE GOING TO MISS ME WHEN I’m GONE
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
What I won’t miss: The whining, the attitude, the fear I have that Bengie will get thrown out on a single to RF, not scoring from 3rd on a sac fly, not scoring from 2nd, getting thrown out on possible infield hits, laziness behind the plate, the low OBP
What I will miss: The GIFs?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 4, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
You’ll change your tune when our entire pitching staff has a 6 ERA because Posey doesn’t know how to handle them!
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't know how to handle them because he's not handling them.
He’s not handling them because he doesn’t know how to handle them.
I was a manager for the Padres.
They’re in first place, you know.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 4, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
/hits someone in the mouth
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 4, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
ah, Phillies fans
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/04/national/a080626D22.DTL
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
saw that on ESPN this morning
i just don’t get it… i’ve seen a few giants fans do it too, running over to go hug Barry, and i just ask, “WHY”
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
How’s everybody’s day going? :)
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I can’t stop thinking about BSG.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Lies
You can’t stop thinking about Alex Smith.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, not his hands anyway.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you broken your Alex Smith promise on NN yet?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Not yet. And thank god for that, too. I don’t think my work productivity could handle me trying to provide a reasonable opinion about Alex Smith over there.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
An unreasonable opinion can be a viable alternative!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t stop thinking about Ziggy Sobotka’s penis.
/watching season two of The Wire
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
So, I’m watching one of Tim Lincecum’s first starts from 2007.
It’s really weird seeing him with short hair.
Also, it reminded me of how utterly ridiculous his minor league stats were.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
unfortunately, it's the other team's announcers
They just called Vizquel “a winning-type player.”
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
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