Post-game thread: Giants play game, don't hit well
by Grant Brisbee on May 23, 2010 4:01 PM PDT
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PrintI didn't watch the game -- I recorded it, so l can have all kinds of fun later. So the headline might make me look stupid. I mean, they might not have played the game at all.
Edit: Wow. That was even worse than I'd imagined. I can't believe Edgar Renteria and Freddy Sanchez didn't fix things right away.
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AmyGGiants
rumor mill is focused on Jermaine Dye
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
By the time Dye is ready, the Giants will be 15 games out. By the way, even though I don’t want Dye, at this point Rich Aurilia would be an upgrade.
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
by rxmeister on May 23, 2010 4:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
at this point
the core of ’02 would be an upgrade, even at 40+ years old.
Barry in LF, Kent at 2nd.
hell, even bring back Snow…but really just to get him off the radio.
I actually like Snow on the radio.
/bans self
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on May 23, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s improved.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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In the post-game show, he was confused by the A’s having an elephant mascot.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
When they were picking players, he said he was picking the mascot. Another announcer (I don’t remember who) asked, “Why?”
Snow: “Well, why do they have an elephant for a mascot?”
Flemming (I think): It goes back deep into A’s history.
Snow: (awkward pause)
Of course, the funny thing about it is, why do the Giants have a seal for a masoct!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I’ve always assumed that it was related to the SF Seals.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Yep.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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Yes.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, the back story on the white elephant mascot for the As is pretty cool. Not to mention directly linked to the Giants.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
/gets a weird Maximum Overdrive – like image
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that movie.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
still to looking like a woodchuck, Amy G
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on May 23, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
2009 Fangraphs Value:
Jermain Dye: negative $1.7 million
Fred Lewis: positive $3.8 million
LOL statistics being used to prove anything
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
How about instead we get someone who doesn’t suck?
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
Woah, why not ask the for the sun and the moon?
…and I don’t mean the Bravery album
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Delete it from the DVR, save space for the Jack Hannah Llama - O - Rama.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
WOOHOOO!!!
Something to look forward to today.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
uhhhhhhuhhhh
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on May 23, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember the other day when Molina fouled off a pitch that bounced before he hit it?
That is the perfect representation of the Giants offense.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions
Well they could. But they are not going to get it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Being 12 games out by the ASB can’t get here soon enough. Obviously, I’m not able to detach myself from this team. I need even MORE reason to stop watching.
Lincecum, Zito, Cain, and Sanchez to the Dodgers.
In return, Giants get cash they will never spend.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
In return, Giants get cash they willneverspend on Dye.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And Burrell
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Leroy?
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez got Cain'd pt. 3
4/20: L (0-1) 7 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 10 K
5/13: L (0-1) 8 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Today: L (0-3), 7 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 5 BB, 4 K
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
Sanchez would Know How To Win™ better
if he were on a team that scored more runs.
I’m annoyed that Sanchez got tagged with the 2nd run through very little fault of his own.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Yeah
Should have been 1 ER had it not been for the Bork.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Flem: "How was working with Ray the other night?"
Krukow: “Ray’s fine, unless the A’s win. Then he SUCKS.”
LOL.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Fosse sucks either way
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
he seems to be a much more boring homer now
maybe Bill King used to keep him in line?
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
x2
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on May 23, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
NO
Meager offensive upgrade wouldn’t be worth the horrific defensive downgrade.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Matt Cain" = TRAGIC MAN, ISN'T PATHETIC
by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 23, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
True
But the comedic potential is unmatched. Maybe if we put Burrell in center, and Dye at second?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If they sign those two, the ad campaign wouldn't be "It's Magic Inside"
It would be music and this (and everyone knows what this is):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
/waits for annoying A’s fans to post.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
haha we gotz ringgzzzzz
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonds Curse
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
…sure.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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Every time the Giants get shutout, he is somewhere laughing.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
the artist / the model
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on May 23, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Been a while since I updated that site lol.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
ThisFanPostGiants support isreader-Giants fan generated, and it does not necessarily reflect the views ofMcCovey ChroniclesGiants management. If theauthorGiants usesfiller to achieve the minimumword requirementdollar return, amoderatorGiants fan frustrated to the point of insanity mayedit the FanPostkidnap and torture the members of Giants management for his or her own amusement.
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by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions
Dumbass team.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on May 23, 2010 4:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Dave Fleming: Don’t worry giants fans its only may, the giants are above .500 and they’ll get it together and everything will be fine don’t worry giants fans!. This is bad foks, its mid may and the giants FO is already out of company lines and using classic classic “it will be better soon!” line that makes every wine and cheese head feel relieved.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Because
We have so much recent history to indicate that the offense will come around and be keen and peachy.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 23, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
bait & switch
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on May 23, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not worried. The Giants were shut down by three amazing pitchers. Cahill! Gonzalez! Sheets!
Besides, a slump happens to every team. This Giants lineup has too many good, veteran players who play the game right and will make the necessary adjustments. I think we’ll see a different team on Tuesday. And once DeRosa and Schierholtz get back into the lineup, watch out, with its pitching, this team will be back to being a serious playoff contender.
GO GIANTS!!!
/takes medication
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
We will see a different team on Tuesday
The Nationals.
Probably the same result for the Giants, though.
Giants Baseball: TORTURE
Dave Fleming thinks a great AB is a hitter that makes the pitcher throw 10 pitches then pops up.
by ScottinMarin on May 23, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
tl;dr
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Shades of the Warriors
Dave would segway quite comfortably into Boob Fistgerald’s shoes as company stooge if this thing goes off the rails.
by Giant Homer on May 24, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
There is one thing that keeps bothering me more and more every time I think about it.
It is the fact that Bochy put a lineup out there that is very similar to a lineup I would put out there, and they were still shutout. :(
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
I thought about this too, but does it really matter when no one can hit?
by Artimus Clyde on May 23, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess not. :(
Good thing there is a tomorrow, or day after tomorrow in this case.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
good thing is the nationals come into town on tuesday and the giants officially become sellers.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Eric Hacker for Ryan Zimmerman!
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey that’d be just like the marc gasl for pau gasol trade, sounds fair will you help us out mr selig? Oh wait nevermind, not the NBA.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I think perhaps we should look into acquiring some better hitters
just a thought . . .
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gotta square away the #5 rotation spot first dude
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on May 23, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Better to have five pitchers losing 0-1 games than four.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow! I never thought of this!
I will e-mail Sabean.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian Sabean says:
“Hey, I already got us Huff, DeRosa, Sanchez… I did MY job!!”
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Susan!
Get me a list of available 2B!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 24, 2010 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions
And a jelly doughnut, while you’re at it
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 24, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
wow
I heard him on Urbane’s show the other day; just wow.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
There's this Posey chap, for example . . .
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Painful
It’s like everything’s falling apart. The fielding’s been hiccupy, the hitting’s been shet, and the relief pitching has been disappointing to say the least. Pablo’s still cold, Bengie’s fat, Nate’s scuffed, Aaron’s been …, it’s just depressing. It’s no fun watching us get shutout two days in a row and prolong our losing streak to 5 games. These ain’t even good teams that we’re losing to. The D’Backs have terrible fielding, the man who made the most strikeouts 2 years in a row, abysmal relief pitching, etc. The A’s are just a carbon copy of us but more boring.
Agreed
But, glass half full, things are reaching the point that Sabes might be forced to do a few things that seemed patently obvious in March, but which now seem long overdue. Like bring up Posey and Madbum. Like establish Bowker in left and Schierholtz in right, period.
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
your confusing Sabean with a competent GM. He’ll sign Dye and extend Molina before any of that happens
by NateEveryday on May 23, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well. . . we could shoot him . . .
Just sayin’ . . . .
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Not actually, you know advocating . . .
Like, with a tranq dart maybe . . . or . . .
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly
If Sabean EVER does anything good, it’s by sheer dumb luck, like a monkey banging away on a piano and suddenly playing Moonlight Sonata.
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong about left field
That’s where Torres belongs.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
the man who made the most strikeouts 2 years in a row
This guy is a pretty good player.
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Yep.
Striking out a lot doesn’t necessarily mean you’re a bad hitter.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
wat
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
To extrapolate
That makes no sense. How your team finishes does not reflect on how good of a hitter an individual is at all.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
lolwut
…Mark Reynolds isn’t the problem on the DBacks
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Science™
by speckops on May 23, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t believe that’s what you were driving at, especially since the Giants didn’t finish last place.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
?
I meant the lol. Of course Mark Reynolds is not their problem but neither was Fred for us. I was just saying implying that striking out is the least productive out and that it’s nice to be not striking out more than everyone else. Forget it.
Striking out is ok as long as you hit for power and gets on base. The old thinking of Striking out is bad bad bad OMG bad is along the lines of RBI is a relevant stat and batting average is useful.
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Alright. I will just take your word for it that it was a joke. Sorry for being a jerk about it, there was really no need for that. Im just being grumpy.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It's OK
I’m a little grumpy too and sometimes when I write I don’t think about how other people may not have the same thought process as me. It’s like how if you’re winning, no one says anything about it, but when you lose, that’s when it becomes a problem. No one complains about Ryan Howard striking out so much because the Phillies have been doing good for quite some time now. But yeah, it’s ’kay.
Oh. Yeah, now I actually get it. Okay.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually
Could go for some more strikeouts. I’m tired of all of those soft groundouts and Double Plays and not winning.
I could go for Mark Reynold or Ryan Howard.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Jamie Moyer?
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than Wellemeyer
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A paper bag is better than Wellemeyer.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That's an exaggeration
/paper bag throws 2 consecutive strikes
…I guess you’re right
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A paper bag probably won’t walk a billion batters in a row.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
/Thinks of Chase Utley on the Giants
//drools
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/Still thinks Werth will be a trap signing
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I think Jason Bay money would be too much
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I think werth would sonner play for the diamondbacks than he would the giants, he’s a big fan of right field and AT&T park is LOL right field dead zone.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Rectumface?
Would we have to stop calling him that?
Grumpy Graham
Soft eyes – now with daggers!
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by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it.
Much more intimidating.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well maybe this is a good thing…if the Giants continue to tank, maybe Neukom will pull the trigger on Bochy or Sabean a year early.
/slams head on the keyboard.
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I wouldn’t want to endure the prolonged horror that would have to occur for that to happen.
I mean, we’re talking 2-37 or something.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Never happen
Incompetence reigns in the halls of the Giants FO
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
/waits for someone to claim our offense is league average
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
If our offense scored more runs then it’s capable of, then our offense would be close to average
by NateEveryday on May 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If you insist.
Did anyone actually watch the game? Does anyone here actually think that if you hit the ball hard and it’s right at someone, that is “poor hitting”? And did anyone count how many of those there were?
This is not a strong offensive team, but neither is it a weak one: it’s average or a little below. With sufficiently strong pitching, it has a plausible chance at the division. No team is ever as good as it looks when everything clicks, nor as bad as it looks when nothing does.
I’m waiting till the 80-game point or thereabouts to do a mid-season-review post, but about the only significant move needed right now is to subtract Molina from the roster. Even those skeptical of the tradeoff value of Whiteside’s defense vs. his anemic offense know that Posey will be ready sometime soon. (I’ve lost the link, but someone here pointed out a blog by a minor-league pitcher who has thrown to Posey, and as best I recall his recent comments, they were to the effect that while he could play now, he really does have a few things that could stand polishing up.)
Position by position, there are no other obvious yawning chasms. Huff is a little less than ideally wanted from a first baseman, but still solid; if you mentally assign his hitting to 3B and Panda’s to 1B, the numbers are about right for a good team. Renteria, Sanchez, and Uribe are not mighty sluggers, but are satisfactory or better for middle infielders. (Incidentally, if we had a manager who could make out a lineup card by some means other than asking players where they’d like to hit, FSanchez should bat well down; if Sandoval in #2 is too radical, use Renteria.) Torres has shown that he is a good to excellent bat, especially for leadoff (at some point, the naysayers will have to get a grasp), and then it gets fuzzy in the OF. But if Schierholtz has finally discovered The Secret of Life (or at least of batting), and is not just on a lucky tear, he’s an uninspired but adequate bat in right, and for all the mockery a reasonably healthy DeRosa is about the same in left. There is, of course, the sempiternal Bowker Question, but if he eventually meets his supporters’ hopes, that is only a plus.
What is needed, as I have said forever, is Addition By Subtraction. Stop giving time to a career .299-OBA catcher-who-can’t. Stop playing an undoubtedly nice guy who is a defense-only first baseman (movie title: “The Return of Skip James”). And so on and so forth.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the equation, we need to Subtract (though ideally not by defenestration) the three pitchers on the staff who have a proven record of yuck (Wellemeyer, Bautista, and the latest mystery choice, Casilla).
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The pitcher you're thinking of is Garrett Broshius
(I’ve lost the link, but someone here pointed out a blog by a minor-league pitcher who has thrown to Posey, and as best I recall his recent comments, they were to the effect that while he could play now, he really does have a few things that could stand polishing up.)
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Cheese grater?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Greater than what?
Cheese is greater than most things.
Think about how wonderful yeasts are and what life would be without them: no cheese, no bread, no beer, no wine.
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by victor frankenstein on May 24, 2010 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The problem with this analysis is not the content itself
The content is accurate, the problem lies in the context in which it is trying to describe.
The Giants do not view Molina as a .299 OBA catcher. He is a clutch player that did a good job for us and drove in 80 runs. He handles the pitching staff. He is a clubhouse presence.
Bowker? What has he ever done? He is nothing more than a hack that strikes out on curve balls. We need DeRosa back. He is the gamer that can play even on painkillers. That’s a crafty veteran that knows how to win.
Therein lines the problem. The upgrade needs to come from CF, C, and possibly SS and 1B. However, because those are the positions that we’ve sunk all of our money into, we cannot upgrade those slots. Therefore, in hope of chaning things up, we have to tweek LF and RF, since those are the only positions that “can be tweaked” without the front office looking like idiots. Who cares if Bowker gets screwed, he didn’t cost any money to sign. Oh god if we release Rowand imagine the egg on our face for the 36M we spent! We can’t release Molina! We’ve been pumping him up to be the glue that held this franchise together for so long! He has to stay!
Brian Sabean is in the business of keeping Brian Sabean employed, not helping the Giants win.
Is what we are seeing the result of fluke BABIP? Yes it is. However, when you construct a team that cannot hit the ball out of the park and cannot get on base, you are at the mercy of the BABIP streaks. There is no excuse for the Giants constructing a lineup full of hackers with no power and doesn’t get on base.
And since the front office still view the game the way it was viewed 20 years ago, where RBI and Clutch Hitting is emphasized, the only way to come out ahead is to blame them for BABIP losses, even though we know well enough that it is random chances that is dictating our inability to score runs.
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Which reminds me . . .
. . . I totally forgot Rowand. (Mandatory wisecracks to be considered made.) He is neither a great center fielder nor a great bat, but is serviceable at both. If we had a real manager, Torres would be in CF and Rowand in LF, but it’s not a disaster as is.
You are of course correct about Sabean and his entourage, but reality is slowly forcing itself onto them. Note that we finally saw a half-way sensible lineup. It may not last, but it’s a crack in the armor of nonsensicality.
But my point is that, pleasant as it would be to get some, this team really doesn’t need any dramatic offensive upgrade if the pitching can stay solid. It just needs to make decent use of what it already has (with, again, that one needed subtraction in the position players, and the three needed ones on the staff).
It’s not like there is no Buster Posey, nor any at least decent pitchers down below. Soon or late, Mr. Sabean will hear the footsteps behind him and make some changes, out of sheer concern for, as you note, the continued employment of Mr. Brian Sabean.
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Don't hold your breath
This organization has gone from bad to worse over the course of the last 3 years.
Soon or late, Mr. Sabean will hear the footsteps behind him and make some changes, out of sheer concern for, as you note, the continued employment of Mr. Brian Sabean.
His idea of changes is to go even further down the path he believes in — scouting, chemistry, and veteran grit wins games, not stats and projections. In the last 8 months, he has :
- Resigned Bengie Molina, one of the worst hitter in the national league by wOBA last year, to a 4.5M contract. Signed Freddy Sanchez to a 2 year extension, even though there were plenty of in house and external options that are cheaper and (maybe) better. Why? Because he won a batting crown once. And we paid Tim Alderson for him.
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- Managed to piss off the entire AAA pitching staff in one sentence. And you know what? I actually believe him. He really do believe AAA pitching is terrible. Admits that the organization discounts minor league stats. So much so that he calls the stats meaningless, and flat out admits they don’t use them in player evaluation. But hey, jobs are won and lost in 50 spring training at bats. That’s wonderful.
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Brian Sabean is not hearing footsteps. His actions show he is moving as far towards the traditional scouting as he can and discount modern statistical analysis as much as possible. He wants to win HIS way, never mind that it is the WRONG way.
He is not waking up tomorrow and say : Oh wow, I need to construct a lineup that emphasizes OBP and some power within the lineup to alleviate streaky BABIP. You know what? I shouldn’t have signed Molina because he drove in 80 RBIs, RBI is a meaningless stat. I should call up Posey because he can get on base. That shit won’t happen.
At this point, I’m hoping that he and Bochy get fired for the wrong reasons (Giants getting screwed on BABIP) because all the right reasons are already in front of Neukom, and he isn’t recognizing them.
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by jctGamer on May 23, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rowand’s a bigger problem than Molina at this point. He’s actually turned into Molina as a hitter — nice power but a .287 OBP, and a lovely 26:5 k:bb ratio — while batting leadoff!
If it were up to me Torres would be starting in center and Rowand would be on the short side of a platoon in left with Bowker.
In other words...
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This is not a strong offensive team, but neither is it a weak one: it’s average or a little below.
Where you get this from is beyond me. No, they’re not as bad as they’ve seemed the last few days, but they’re pretty bad. Clearly well below average. I mean, last year they were one of the worst hitting teams in the league. This year, they added Aubrey Huff (probably better than Garkawa, but league-average at best), Mark DeRosa (tendons flopping about, will probably never be a good hitter again, if he can play at all), and Freddy Sanchez (again, better than what we had last year, but league average at best and injury prone as well). If you take a hideous offense and add a couple of hitters who might be league average if things go well, you have an offense that might be slightly better, but you certainly cannot count on it even being league average. And whatever improvements Huff/DeRosa/Sanchez may represent is likely offset by the fact that everyone else is a year older.
Two and a hlf weeks ago or so, this team was alone in first place. Four days ago they were in second place. Now—from what I read here—they’re absolutely, positively destined for the basement at season’s end. Dear me.
Of course, back then, the pitchers were allowing fewer than three runs per game. Yes, Virginia, your snark overlooks the fact that that is just as unsustainable as the pathetic offense we’ve seen these last few days. No offense (even the Astros) is that bad; no pitching (even ours) is that GOOD. The result is, most likely, another mediocre team, lead by a mediocre manager and a mediocre front office. And, again, nothing will change as a result.
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Well, I wouldn't try reasoning the guy
From that comment, he pegs Nate with an “if” while still sticking to the “Torres is great based on his results in this damn small sample.” Dude just believes what he wants, then finds stats to back it up. It’s whatever.
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Then find your own.
And see what you can prove with them.
Torres hadn’t played in the majors since 2005, when he had an awesome 21 plate appearances. His playing time with the Giants over the past season-and-a-quarter is already 25% more than his entire several-years-old scattered prior results. Yes, right now his data are perhaps 1/3 of what one ideally looks for to be fully comfortable (in my experience, about 1000 PAs); but never make the mistake of believing that what isn’t certainly proved true is thus by default false. What do your own two eyes suggest? That Torres is a fluke? Or that he looks very much like a guy who knows what he is about?
But, as I see better and better these days, some people here just want to believe the worst. OK, enjoy it, then.
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I think Torres is real
Based mostly on what I’ve seen of his defense, his decent contact skills, solid patience, and solid power. It’s nice that Torres is performing well, and I think he’ll continue to be at least an above average player (more than 2 WAR). But that doesn’t mean that I’m going to do something as arrogant as continually calling out his “naysayers” (who you’re probably conflating with people who are being cautious with Torres) and as dumb as using his small, 250ish PA as definitive proof of his being real.
But, as I see better and better these days, some people here just want to be as big of a dick to the people here as they can.
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Also, as soon as possible, the Giants will make DeRosa come off the DL. Torres will go back to the bench, and DeRosa will suck because he has a fucking tendon flopping about his wrist.
Does anyone doubt this?
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he has a fucking tendon flopping
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I can’t believe the Giants — not even the Giants — will bench Torres until he slumps very badly. I mean, he’d be a reasonable MVP candidate at this point of the season.
So you think they’ll put him in RF? They seem hell-bent on playing DeRosa. Even if they leave Torres in the lineup, and even if he continues to hit this well, I suspect that would still be a downgrade, given DeRosa’s current state.
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LOL Starting RF
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*By which I mean Bowker
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Where I get it is easy.
I take each player’s career stats rates, pro-rate them by the percentage playing time they’re getting, combine for team totals, and run something analogous to “Runs Created” on it. I haven’t done that for a week or two now, but I don’t believe percentage playing times have shifted that much lately.
Note that that is very conservative, because there are few or no players for whom we have reason to believe that their current-year performance will be significantly worse than their history (ok, maybe Molina), but at least htree (Torres, Schierholtz, and Bowker) for whom there is at least hope that they are nontrivially better than their career-to-date.
Note also that this is not something that need be dead accurate: if it’s off by 10 or 20 runs, the games-won projection is off by 1 or 2 games. In the real pennant chase that matters, but for getting a handle on the general range of reasonable expectations it quite suffices.
Last year, the Giants allowed 611 runs. If they do exactly that this year, and score the estimated 722 runs, they ought to win 94 or 95 games. Or, looking at it another way, if they give up that same 611 runs, to win 90 games they’d need (on average) 683 runs scored, well under what one projects from career batting stats.
How many wins will it take to capture the NL West pennant? The average over the past 5 years has been under 90, maybe (I forget exactly) 88 or so. That doesn’t prove anything for 2010, but all things considered, the team looks definitely quite competitive. Except to those for whom a one- or two-week slump is proof positive that they can relax and continue to nurse their “They suck” prejudices, for whatever weird reasons that pleases them.
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Yeah I think that could be misleading
I mean Sanchez, Huff, DeRosa, Renteria, etc were all good in their primes…now they’re stop gaps-at best.
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Except to those for whom a one- or two-week slump is proof positive that they can relax and continue to nurse their "They suck" prejudices, for whatever weird reasons that pleases them.
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Which means you need to enroll in the Witness Protection Program posthaste.
Joking aside – you mentioned a “baseball room” on another thread.
Do you have pictures of any of your memorabilia?
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by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Regrettably, no.
And most of it would be hard to scan. For instance, we have a poster, about 2′ × 3′, of Frank Howard, which I asked him to sign to my lady (he did, being a gentleman), she being an ardent Giants fan because she was trained in BB torture, having grown up a Senators fan (“Washington: first in war, first in peace, last in the American League”). We have a photograph of my lady, from many years back, with a tiger cub from the SF Zoo on her lap, signed to her for me by Willy Mac, because she had won a “name the tiger cubs” contest when they were born and the tiger cub’s name became McCovey. I also have a baseball signed by FRobby to my lady; and a framed copy of the cover of my book, for which Robby wrote the introduction (and there’a a little photo of me interviewing him on the back cover). There’s a photo of the Candlestick scoreboard wishing her a happy birthday on the occasion of her 283rd consecutive home game attended (the total ran a lot higher, but we somehow, in one or another move, lost a similar photo with a much higher total). At one time, I believe that no one had seen more consecutive Giants home games than me except Ralph Nelson, and she went to most of those.
And, of course, there’s that check from Lowell.
There’s a lot more, but most of it is those customized photos that make it look like someone was on the team (they were gifts from me to her). The one I like best is a faked-up tavern sign for “Tiger Lynn’s Giants Hangout”.
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Scan?
Oh, no…just snap some digitals.
Sounds like a nicely storied collection.
Unfortunately you seem to have ruffled the feathers of the pundits in residence, though it looks to me as if some overreacting is involved.
(If you folks want to get some perspective on what “being as big of a dick to the people here as they can.” is I’ll be happy to assist. That’s pretty fucking rude.)
Thanks for wading in.
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by victor frankenstein on May 24, 2010 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Ashamed to say . . .
. . . (well, no, actually, I’m not), but I have no digital-photography capability. I keep threatening to buy my lady a nice digital SLR and she keeps asking me whatever in the world she would do with it. I tend to agree that if one doesn’t remember it well, perhaps it wasn’t worth remembering. We ran around northern Europe for nine months in the long ago and far away totally without camera and do not regret it.
I do have a cheesy little cell phone that has modest photographic capability, but I don’t see the point in paying Sprint to let me transfer my photos, and the USB software for doing it by computer seems to have some hiccups with this model. (I’m so old-fashioned that I use my telephone solely for telephone calls, and those only to emergency services, or to one another when we separate in a big store.)
As to feather-ruffling, I’m with the Doctor’s advice to Romana: stick to what you do best. None of it will matter much in a hundred years.
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by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
one more thing
Huff is a little less than ideally wanted from a first baseman, but still solid; if you mentally assign his hitting to 3B and Panda’s to 1B, the numbers are about right for a good team.
Okay, I’ll give this a shot. If we compare Huff to the league’s third basement by wOBA, excluding Sandoval:
1) Zimmerman: .412
2) McGehee: .406
3) Wright: .374
4) Rolen: .369
4) Freese: .369
6) Reynolds: .366
7) Blake: .364
8) Huff: .354
9) Jones: .348
10) Stewart: .346
11) Cantu: .343
11) Polanco: .343
13) Headley: .326
14) LaRoche .311
15) Feliz: .227
16) Ramirez: .222
Sandoval compared to the NL’s first baseman, excluding Huff:
1) Votto: .416
2) LaRoche: .401
3) Dunn: .398
4) Pujols: .392
5) Gonzalez: .382
6) Howard: .366
7) Fielder: .355
8) Helton: .354
9) Sanchez: .350
9) Glaus: .350
11) Jones: .345
12) Cantu: .343
13) Loney: .342
14) Sandoval .337
15) Kennedy .319
16) Lee: .302
(side-note: this is from Fangraphs, and it seems a little screwy – is Kennedy really playing first base!?)
In trying to argue that the Giants are league average or close to it, you self-selected this example, using maybe the team’s two best hitters, Huff and Sandoval. Looking at the reality in the stats thus far, one of your self-selected examples is about average (8th out of 16), and one who is, sadly, well below average (14th out of 16). And Sandoval, I’ve no doubt, will be better by season’s end, but if in the example YOU chose to demonstrate the offense being average, you have one guy who’s been about average, and one guy who’s been well below average, what does that say about the team as a whole?
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I think what he is trying to say is, on paper, this team should be average based on career stats from each of the starting player. That right now, they are suffering from poor BABIP and thus the offense should return to norm.
Not agreeing with him, just saying what I think his point is. I, for one, don’t believe career numbers are a good comp for Renteria and Bengie Molina at this point in their career.
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I do think that’s fair when it comes to Pablo, but looking at the numbers, I don’t see how one can argue that Huff has been unlucky.
Depressingly, Bengie’s BABIP is STILL 30 points out of whack, and Edgar’s is almost 50 points above his career average even though he’s hitting even fewer line drives than last year, and yet he still has a (slightly) sub-100 OPS+. Yikes. That could get bleak.
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now I'm curious about career BABIP vs. 2010 BABIP for our intrepid lineup
Career numbers first:
C: Molina: .278 / .308
1B: Huff: .292 / .299
2B: skipping Sanchez because, well, duh
3B: Sandoval: .342 / .306
SS: Renteria: .318 / .364
LF: Torres: .300 / .342
CF: Rowand: .320 / .276
RF: Schierholtz: .329 / .330
RF: Bowker: .284 / .265
There’s a lot of variation from the norm, but on balance I’m not seeing a lot of cause for optimism or pessimism. It sort of balances out. Two positions where guys are way below their career mark, two where they’re about the same, and three where they’re way above their career average.
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so judging by this data, if the starting lineup remains roughly the same, the offense should put up a similar performance over the season because Sandoval, Rowand and Bowker should perform better and Molina, Renteria and Torres should come down while Huff and Schierholtz should maintain.
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
rowand should hit 8th for the rest of the year and whatever bum is playing catcher in the 7th spot problem solved.
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actually
in theory Rowand will get on a hot streak to bring up his peripherals soonish. Burying him in the 8 hole for his performance over the last 2 weeks would do the team a disservice.
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d personally like to hit him 7th, but hitting molina 8th is a cardinal sin because if he gets on base the pitcher cant sac bunt because it’d be a double play everytime :(.
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personally, I’d go with Nate in the 8 hole and bat Molina 6th.
LF Torres
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
1B Huff
SS Uribe
C Molina
CF Rowand
RF Schierholtz
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That looks about right
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The recent poor results relate to Sandoval's slump and the bullpen
if he were getting an xtrabase hit here and a multiple hit game there, the Giants would be doing reasonably well, and if the bullpen was doing the same job they did last year, they would be in first place. With Affeldt out, and no one sure what’s up with Pablo, I’d say the Giants have gone backwards from last year.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
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The problem with your analysis
is that good lineups are balanced. A good lineup has some high OBP guys, some speed and some power. Look at the Phils or the Dodgers as examples. Both teams have a blend of speed and power, to go along with some high OBP guys.
The Giants have very little speed, very little power and very little int he way of OBP guys. That makes it very difficult to score runs.
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You say speed, power and OBP. Sabean says veteran, gamer, and professional hitter. Along with former (blah blah) champion or MVP.
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This seems as good a place as any to drop this in.
I just spent a few hours revamping the projection script to make it more exact; previously, it had calculated team OBP and TBA (TB/PA), multipled them, then multiplied the result by the league-average multiplier. Good for round numbers, but I decided to cumulate and pro-rate the individual stats.
If anything, the results are even more encouraging. Details get messy, for a number of technical reasons, one of which is that the basic calculation method tries to get at merit by ignoring managerially directed small-ball stats, so SH, SB, and CS are forced to zero. That gives a number somewhat higher than can be expected in reality, but it does allow reasonably good comparisons between teams (and players) and the league average. I want to wait till after I take a sanity check on the interim processing results tomorrow (after a night’s sleep) before I state any definite numbers—it’s easy to make embarrassing errors in programming. But encouraging so far.
There is certainly a case to be made that older players may not be well represented by career stats, and the only cross-check is to look at their histories man by man. But when the man has had a significant injury, as Renteria has, the process gets a bit fuzzed; as recently as the 2007 season—though it was only about 2/3 of a season, owing to the injury—his offense was stellar. His career number is only about 70% of what he did that year, so it’s not an unreasonable expectation.
Rowand is a sort of feast-or-famine player. Discounting his Philadelphia numbers a bit for the park, he’s kind of a so-so player. Through Saturday’s games, his 2010 is below career, but not by lots. His biggest problem in 2009 was his amazing strikeout rate, well above his career norms; he’s mitigated most of that this year (though his rate is high), and will doubtless go on a streak sometime soon and rise to his usual “eh” self (his BABIP is 24 points below career).
Huff is a steady player, fairly good in an unspectacular manner. Through Saturday, he was nearly at his career level (within about 1%).
Skipping the rest of the man-by-man thing, a guy in his early 30s is probably better represented by his career than it seems, because his peak is probably around age 28, and at 32 his career will include—for the average age-25 arrival—a symmetrical collection of data centered on his peak.
If the Giants have “very little speed”, who wants to have a foot race for a large purse with Torres or Schierholtz? Who is so much better at OBP than Torres or Sandoval? Even Renteria isn’t that bad. Power, yes, they could probably use a bit more, especially since their best power guy is also an OBP guy (Sandoval).
But the point of the exercise was that while the offensive talent isn’t tremendous, neither is it as bad as it looks in the current snapshot. Through their first 21 games, they scored 96 runs, 4.57/G; through their second 21 games, they scored 79 runs, 3.76/G. I reckon that over the season, they can score 4.46/G. Considering that most of their offensive slump corresponds with the Panda’s, I see no shocking discrepancy there. Unless one postulates that Panda was a freak SSS success and will hit .280 from here on. . . .
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FTFY
A good lineup hassome high OBP guys, some speed and some powera lot of good hitters.
Whatever makes them good hitters is what good lineups have. Most of the time, it starts with high OBP and whatever you add on to that, whether it’s power, speed, defense, whatever, is the mishmash combination you end up with. You pretty much don’t ever have really good hitters who don’t have good OBP. Whatever other tools they have that complement that are what tend to put them over the top. Get good hitters. There is no magic combination. The rest is just window dressing.
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by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants offense
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Get off of my plane!
Bochy and Sabean.
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by RaymondStone.com on May 23, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow . . .
Harrison Ford looks HORRIBLE in that capture.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on May 23, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
uuuumm. . . pretty sure thats Billy Dee Williams
by NateEveryday on May 23, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He is like 90 years old.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Need a rope?
Im not even sure if you can consider that chasm. It more like exaggeration.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Fucked up that last comment
He looks old because he works around the clock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBx7yxEME4
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Since we're not going to win this year . . .
Let’s use this year to build for the future. Is John Bowker a major league LF? Give him 500 PAs to find out. Ditto Schierholz in right.
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but we can contend and rebuild at the same time. . .
by NateEveryday on May 23, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
we know exactly what we have in Bowker, Nate, Torres and the rest……..not nearly enough.
by ScottinMarin on May 23, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
incidentally
Has there been any word on Affeldt yet?
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This stat says it all, no?
The two Giants leading the team in OPS are Eli Whiteside (.910) and Andres Torres (.868).
The two Giants leading the team in OPS are the backup catcher and the guy who was supposed to be the fifth outfielder.
Giants Baseball: TORTURE
Another thing that says it all, is that velez will be recalled from AAA and put in the 2 hole and bowker sent down.
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Ah, well, problems solved!
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Cialis: Lettin' Old Men Screw Whenever They Feel Like It!
I have no particular interest in talking about the game.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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It was pretty excruciating, wasn't it?
So, side discussion: what are y’all reading right now?
I just started Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. It’s a novel about the Biafra War in Nigeria. Or it will be eventually – I’m on about page 85, and the war hasn’t started yet. I’m really enjoying it so far, though. It’s painting a really nice portrait of the society and the characters are really engaging.
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Just finished The Last Stand, Nathaniel Philbrick
Terrific history of Custer and Sitting Bull, told from both the white and native American points of view. Recommend it very highly indeed
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Just started Hellhound on His Tail, Hampton Sides
I’m only ten pages in, but it starts great. About the guy who killed MLK, how he stalked him, and the subsequent manhunt
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dispatches, by Michael Herr.
In case you haven’t heard of it, it’s a fairly popular novel about the Vietnam War. Very disjointed, at least thus far. I believe that’s the point; the author, a former journalist, is attempting to convey the vagueness of the conflict, the unreasoning and useless nature of it all. It shows the bare nature of human beings stuck in chaos and conflict. Each paragraph is its own story, a dispatch, if you will.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Yeah, I liked that a lot
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Life & Times of Michael K, by JM Coetzee
For a group presentation tomorrow. Kafka-esque novel about a simple, hare-lipped gardener trying to return to his mother’s birthplace in a civil war in South Africa.
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by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Oooh, Coetzee. I’ve read a few of his books – Boyhood, Foe, and Elizabeth Costello. I really like all of them. I haven’t read that one, though.
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He’s an amazing writer, but not exactly a good time.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I think he won the Nobel Prize for Michael K?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yep
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by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Nobel Prizes for Literature are for a writer’s body of work rather than for a single book.
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I know, I was just pointing it out.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
and by the way
I particularly recommend his novel Foe. It’s a postcolonial retelling of the Robinson Crusoe story, in which a woman is shipwrecked on the island with Crusoe and Man Friday, who in this version is a black slave whose tongue has been cut out, perhaps by Crusoe. Crusoe is reimagined as a lazy, intellectually incurious man who’s content to remain on the island and cares about nothing, including escape. Defoe is a character in the novel, too. I really liked it. It’s much, much better than the real Robinson Crusoe in my opinion.
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See, today wasn't a complete waste
Like, five new books on my list of must-reads
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, the real Robinson Crusoe isn’t very good, so that’s only half praise.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
well, yeah
Funny thing is, I’ve actually written pretty extensively about Robinson Crusoe in my academic life. There’s a lot of interesting stuff to write about in it. But the actual novel is boring as fuck and excruciating to read. There’s like five pages in it that aren’t boring.
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So where do you teach?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't - yet!
I’m starting on my PhD at Florida State in the fall. My “academic life” thus far really means my MA, which I did at the University of Illinois-Chicago.
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Good luck, then!
I teach at Brigham Young University, in Provo. The school’s better than I expected. The town: a good deal worse
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be teaching at FSU, though.
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Sure
i like FSU. Liked the campus a lot
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Fellow teachers . . .
I’m just catching up on this thread. I was too bummed after yesterday’s game to stay on the post mortem.
I teach English at a high school in Sacramento. Yeah, R. Crusoe sucks. Interesting only in that it tells us something about what the literate public went for in those days.
I ain't denyin' there wasn't no bottle.
by baby tuckoo on May 24, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean like the Giants press releases reprinted verbatim by the useless Chronicle and Merc?
by E Ticket on May 24, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Confession: I haven’t read Robinson Crusoe yet. Should I read that first before getting started with Foe?
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by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, hell no.
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t really need to. If you’re not familiar with the story you might want to read the Wikipedia article or something, but you don’t need to know the whole thing to read Foe.
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Cliffs Notes Version:
/Crusoe shipwrecks.
/“Hey, I’m surprisingly good at survival.”
/“Oh hey, a native!”
/“Hey native, you’re named Friday now and I’m forcing you to learn English.”
/“Hey Friday, we’re best friends now. Or something.”
/Adventure!
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If I got anything wrong there, it’s because I last read it a few years ago.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No, you pretty much nailed it
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't there a part where there's a space alien?
And at first they can’t understand each other? Because the alien only speaks in metaphor? And then Robinson gives the alien a Cliff Notes version of The Epic of Gilgamesh? And friendship blossoms?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m trying to think of a clever “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies” style title for Robinson Crusoe that would involve aliens, but I’m not quite getting there. “Robinson Crusoe and Space Invaders” doesn’t have much of a ring to it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Robinson Crusoe and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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/starts furiously writing this story.
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by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He also made Friday convert to Christianity.
And there’s also this whole thing where he discovers cannibals on the island.
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And, believe it or not, there was actually a sequel. I have no idea what it’s about. Nobody ever reads it anymore.
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I did not know that
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
one more random fact
Defoe’s actual last name was Foe. He changed it to Defoe because it made him sound less working class at the time.
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I think I did know that, but I never really wanted to read it anyway.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, he goes on like three different sea voyages before the one where he shipwrecks.
And Defoe originally published the book as nonfiction, but it’s hard to believe that anyone other than a moron would believe it’s real.
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Still, it would have been fun to hang with Defoe
and with Swift and Gay and Henry Fielding, those guys.
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If I remember correctly, Gulliver’s Travels was essentially a parody of Robinson Crusoe, which makes it even cooler.
I was promised lasagna.
Not surprising. They were always giving each other shit. when they weren’t dissing Colley Cibber
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically
Crusoe is about a stereotypical colonial British man who finds an island and teaches stupid natives some awesome western culture.
Gulliver was released a few years later, and is about a stereotypical colonial British man who finds an island and learns just how messed up western culture is.
Both were hits at the time, but it’s not surprising that one aged much better than the other.
I was promised lasagna.
I'm pretty sure it was based on an actual event, though
Not with all of the embellishments, of course. But still, I think there was an actual sailor who marooned himself on an island. The island is now called Robinson Crusoe Island.
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
Wasn’t DeFoe a spy, as well?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I vaguely remember that being at least alleged.
Same with Christopher Marlowe.
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Haha, that’s basically the gist of what I know about Robinson Crusoe. Glad to see that I wasn’t missing much.
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by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I loved this book.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Life & Times was my first Coetzee novel, and I really enjoyed the way he writes. Very fluid and beautiful. My only complaint (not really a complaint, since I liked the voice Coetzee gave to the doctor) is the second part of the book. I don’t think it was necessary for the doctor to explicitly state the themes Coetzee was conveying through Michael in the previous part.
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by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I felt exactly the same way. The rest of it was so awesome that I forgave him the conceit.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Realityland
It’s a great behind-the-scenes look at how Disney World was created and built, with lots of stories about the construction process, the reaction to the gas crises in the 70s, and the cast members themselves. Very entertaining.
And then I’m probably going to re-read Lost Moon and Failure Is Not An Option. Both are autobiographical accounts of Apollo 13, by Jim Lowell and Gene Krantz, respectively. So interesting, to see the event from the astronaut’s POV and then the Mission Control commander’s POV.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Sound interesting
So much so i just ordered it on Amazon. Love books like that, about a history I don’t know much about.
Will God send me to hell for shopping on Sunday?
Does Amazon even count?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
About to finish In Defense of Food and The Book of Basketball, so I need some suggestions, preferably fiction.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
I just got to the middle of Red Mars. So far I’m enjoying it a lot, but I’m veeerrrry skeptical of this Coyote man sub-plot. So far it absolutely REEKS of “something weird and interesting has to happen, so here’s a weird dude to fill the role!”
When, really, there’s TONS of interesting plot to begin with. I mean, these people are fucking COLONIZING MARS. There’s more than enough plot in there without fabricating intrigue.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Coyote becomes more important in Green Mars.
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I hope KSR can justify his inclusion, because right now it’s the only part of the story other than the brief whiny Michel Duval section that I’m just not interested in.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Duval is a bigger character in Green Mars too, actually. But probably less whiny.
I’m hoping I’ll have the time to read Blue Mars before I start my TA training next month, actually. I’m trying to get through three books: Half of a Yellow Sun, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, and Blue Mars. It’s a pretty strange combination of books, I must say!
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By the way, how did you feel about Anathem? I’ve been trying to figure out where to start with Stephenson, but can never seem to commit.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I really enjoyed it. It felt like a very complete world, with all the details that make reality real, and that’s rare in science fiction. It went in a lot of directions that I never would’ve anticipated, but I enjoyed it a lot.
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tl;wr? Skip to the last bit!
The Manual of Detection, by Jedediah Berry. It’s a surreal meta-detective novel.
I’m really enjoying it.
You know how books have a few pages of the choicest praise at the front?
Various reviewers offered comparisons to Kafka, Borges, Ray Bradbury, and Angela Carter, plus
-Wes Anderson (The New Yorker)
-Italo and perhaps a dash of Terry Gilliam (SF Chronicle)
-“a collaboration between Barton Fink-era Coen Brothers and David Lynch while he was collecting his thoughts for the first half of Lost Highway” (Las Vegas Sun)
-Hitchcock and The Man Who Was Thursday (Kirkus)
-Paul Auster (Publishers Weekly)
-Flann O’Brien’s The Third Policeman (The Observer)
-Michael Chabon, Jonathan Lethem, and Glen David Gould (Scotland on Sunday)
and, my personal favorite, from Alexander Chee, author of Edinburgh:
“I feel like I found the thesis Encyclopedia Brown wrote after he grew up and went to Hogwarts. Except that in parts it’s like the movie Brazil. I don’t know if there’s plans for a sequel, but I want more.”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it hard to read during the school year :(
It’s something that I hope will be rectified starting next year.
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I’ve read 400 pages of War and Peace.
I have like 800 to go.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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SO BORING
I read that when I was in Bangladesh and it was literally the only book available.
El Person!!!
I like it so far.
I’m not bored, it’s just insanely long.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Do you have a list of the characters? I don’t think that it’s possible to read it without one.
El Person!!!
I pick up which character is which from the context.
“Oh, it’s the dude in the army! Oh, it’s the dude who inherited the money!”
Pretty simple.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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I’ve read about 200 pages of Against the Day.
One day I’ll start reading it again. Then I’ll go, “Wait, wtf is going on here? I don’t remember any of this!” And then I’ll consider starting over. But then I’ll just assume that the stuff I already read is somewhere in the back of my head and I’ll remember it as I go. And then I’ll read 20 or so more pages. And then I’ll put it down and read something else for a while. This pattern will repeat for the next 6 or so years.
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by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Doug Glanville's book
It’s a fun read.
Excerpt:
Toughest Fans. San Francisco Bay Area. Pick your poison, Giants or A’s. For starters, the Oakland Coliseum had the lowest dugouts in the league; when you stood up, your head was well over the dugout roof, making you an easy target for a fan with long arms. The Rangers ended up in the stands on one occasion. The Giants fans rode you the entire game in the outfield – saying things I prefer not to print here. But maybe you can find them on the Howard Stern Show.
God bless our bleacher bums.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Overrated
You got your balky knees, you got your prostate, you got your back problems. And the old lady’s got issues of her own. It’s not just about the, you know
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
How's the clubhouse vibe now?
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
there was one inning during the game
Where the Giants had some semblance of a threat going – I think they got a runner to second – and then did jack shit. Before the mlb.tv feed cut out, the camera fixed on Bochy in the dugout. He was sitting there, face down, chewing on his fingertip. He was like that for several seconds before he finally looked up, a bewildered expression on his face.
To be fair, he always has a bewildered expression on his face.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I'm sorry
That hooded sweatshirt look needs to go. It needed to go in 2004 and it needs to go now.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Hoodies are cool, but I don’t really see the point of wearing the hood part.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree. Hooded sweatshirts are and always will be awesome.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
It doesn’t look right on a player in the dugout. It looked stupid when the Red Sox were doing it, it looked stupid when the Patriots head coach was doing it and it looks stupid now.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
THIS
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeez, fashion critics.
Tim can wear Flavor Flav’s Viking hat and a pink tutu if it keeps him happy and productive.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
So if Tim wanted to wear nothing but his jock, it’s OK?? Most of us guys except for jim would want to see that.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Strawman.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Actually I think TheLetter2 wouldn’t mind either.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Nice deflection. Wearing a club provided article of clothing in addition to a team uniform is not the same as “wearing whatever you want”. And you know it.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It just looks sloppy.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
and the other two Giants don’t look good either. What happened to the old days of the jacket?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Who cares?
I mean really.
There’s someone I know that always asks me “why are they wearing sweatshirts, aren’t they hot there?”
1) How would I know?
2) Why does it matter AT ALL?
I’m really, really glad that I generally don’t care about what people wear.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 23, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I care what they wear if it looks like this
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I can dig it.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s an interesting mental image.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Best Giants’ related activity on TV today:
Jaymee Sire taking BP with Bam-Bam instructing.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
That was Amy G
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on May 23, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. It would have been more interesting if it were Jaymee.
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on May 23, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Chocolate chip cookie dough milkshake is gooooood. Better than this game at least.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions
My wife’s out getting takeout barbecue, and then we’re going to watch Doctor Who (The Vampires of Venice) on On Demand. Both should be better than this game.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Pork chops for us, followed by An Education, which just arrived via Netflix
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
We have episodes of Trailer Park Boys and Party Down out from Netflix. Trailer Park Boys is a dumb but funny show. We haven’t started Trailer Park Boys yet, but I like a lot of the people in it.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Oh, it’s hilarious. I don’t really understand what you wrote, there, but Trailer Park Boys is a good time. Whenever you get to make fun of Canadians, it has to be a good thing.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
oops
I meant to say that we haven’t started PARTY DOWN yet. We’re on season four of Trailer Park Boys.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
That was a good episode.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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Of the post-Weeping Angels two-parter, I’ve mostly heard good things about Amy’s Choice.
Also, it makes me a little sad that the worst episode of the season so far was the Dalek episode. Because Daleks are awesome, but the recent episodes about them haven’t been.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Amy’s Choice is also a good one. Yeah, Daleks used to be a feared menace. Whenever one popped up in an earlier season, you thought, “oh crap, that’s not good.” Now they’re just random enemies that just pop up whenever it’s convenient.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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The problem started with the Daleks in Manhattan two-parter. The Daleks should never, ever be on the run and weak. They have to be kicking everyone’s ass to be cool.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Chicken Parm and Red Cliff (Part 1 of the full version) from Netflix
Both way better than the Giants this weekend.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I’m getting some soul food from Hard Knox. Haven’t decided on what yet.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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Isn’t it too thick to drink with a straw?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, I used cookie dough ice cream and threw it in the blender for a while.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds good. May try that later. With hot fudge sauce?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I never thought about that. I may have to make the next batch with that.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
JaymeeSireCSN
Bochy has not announced a decision on Tues starter. Affeldt with a tight left hammy…said it felt like he got shot in back of the leg.
Uh-oh.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
DL for sure
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I always wonder...
… when someone says something like this…
Has Jeremy Affeldt ever been shot in the back of the leg before? Because otherwise how would he know…?
Here's an idea. Suppose we shoot Sabean in the back of the leg and then judge his reaction to the pain to Affeldt's reaction to his injury.
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing we can be happy about… the Nationals are not calling up Strausberg until AFTER they play the Giants this week.
I'm actually not happy about this . . .
I wanted to see Strasburg . . . and since Giants can’t hit ANYONE, might as well get beaten by a future star.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on May 23, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Be nice to catch him before he does his Tommy John!
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
OT:
The actor they used to dub Darth Vader’s lines in French for Star Wars is terrible. With no effects! He just sounds like some bloke. In the French Jedi at least the put the full voice modulator effect on the actor’s voice.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I don’t know, man. Him, we might hit. The Nats have any soft tossing lefties with undistinguished records?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
“Bonjour, Rebel scum. What’s happening? Y’all are no match for the power of the Dark Side.”
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LOL!
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
CORRECTION
Earlier I claimed that the actor providing the voice for “French Darth Vader” did not have an affected voice. Upon further review I am found to be wrong. The actor is indeed talking into a coffee cup.
My apologies to the voice actor, George Lucas, Lucasfilm, LTD, and the entire French-speaking world.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Well, it looks like I picked right when I decided to go to the Maker Faire today… even though the life sized Mousetrap worked about as well as the Giants offense.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 23, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions
I considered going, but tickets looked pricey for one day.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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They are… but I like to go check out the weirdness. Luckily, a guy got us in for half price because a couple of people in his group flaked at the last minute. Best part was they had waited in line already, so we basically just showed up and walked right in.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 23, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 9th, Grizzlies and Sounds tied at two, runners at first and second. Velez is up.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions
Walk could go wrong?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Pun typo.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LOL
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't there a rule against walking Velez?
Or anyone who looks like Mr. Tumnus
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Velez walked. Posey’s up with the bases loaded and no one out.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
POSEY GROUNDS INTO A FORCE OUT. STILL NOT READY.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
DFA
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Bases loaded with no one out, no one scores. The true Giants way.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And now the Grizz are headed to the bottom of the 10th, trailing 3-2. There’s the sports fail trifecta.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
The last time the Giants scored
Jan 3, 2010 when they scored a TD at Minnesota in loss to the Vikings.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Sabean makes move
petitions MLB for moar Astros
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Should we duck when Graham Crakalakalala shows up?
He went to the game today.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
We could all laugh at him
But the young man has been angrier lately, so maybe not.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
/hits SFGuy with lamp
TOO LATE BITCH
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I am so, so sorry you had to watch that shit in person.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
With 2 A’s fans nonetheless. It was not good. At least Sanchez pitched well.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oy. My brother’s an A’s fan so now he’s all “SWEEP.” Ugh.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. A bunch of people had brooms.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That must’ve sucked to be around. At least I can threaten my brother by telling him I won’t drive him places if he keeps taunting me. :P
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I just have to take it like a man.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It builds character.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It only makes me stronger.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And more bitter.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 23, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
/ouch that hurts
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
You like lamp?
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on May 23, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think the sun is coming up Tuesday morning.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 23, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
Bet your bottom dollar
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
This game was painful.
Just get Berkman already. That way we almost have a semblance of a decent-ish offense.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
So LOL Giants? LOL Sharks?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
LOL
/presses 6
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
FUCK
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Thing is, Wellemeyer’s unhittable on MLB.
Does that tell us something?
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by Giantsfan4life on May 23, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Get ready for more WeLOLemeyer
Jaymee Sire JaymeeSireCSN
Wellemeyer will start Tuesday, followed by Lincecum and Zito
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
6-game losing streak
Here we come!
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on May 23, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
well if we're not gonna score any runs
might as well throw him out there to eat some innings. Who cares if you lose 6-0 vs 1-0?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I guess This
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Hmmm.
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on May 23, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And what is bork’s reasoning here.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
He sure helped the Blanks out of theirs.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
what we need is a rainout...
…any McCoven with extra time on their hands needs to pull a Bull Durham-like stunt tomorrow/Tuesday down at PacBell.
Weather forecast via sfgate.com
Tuesday
Rain likely in the afternoon. Highs in the 50s to mid 60s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph…becoming southwest 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon.
Tuesday Night
Showers likely. Lows in the mid 40s to lower 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I'm guessing there is not going to be a repeat of Saturday's Post-game thread.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Unfortunately, there’s no movie marathon on tv.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad the finale of Lost isn’t on tonight. Oh, wait…
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
omg u guise you guise omg
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I've moved past the depression stage
I’m now in the acceptance stage. This team is not going to hit, and nothing we do will really matter. The only good that can come out of the season is a below .500 ball final record and the departure of Sabean and Bochy. While fans of other teams look forward to an exciting finish and playoffs, I’m looking forward to a full blown midseason collapse and the firing of our manager. Each game added onto the losing streak may be a game closer to the firing of these 2 clowns. If that is what it takes, I hope we go on a 20 game losing streak.
I made the mistake of ordering red sox series tickets before the season. I sure as well ain’t going to pay money to this fucked up organization anymore. Fuck this front office.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
and before GRM comes in here with his usual “i’m a real fan you are not schtick”, know that I don’t really want the Giants to lose. I’m rooting for the firing of these 2 and if losing is what it takes, then losing the battle to win the war is the right thing to hope for.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Exactly!
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ridiculous. I want them to win every game and if that results in them getting extensions, so be it. Of course I think they’re doing shitty jobs and hope they get canned, but not enough to root against the team. By the way, the same guy who gave them extensions would pick their successors. What makes you think he’ll pick the right people?
Buster Posey: "still not ready." - idiot of a GM
by rxmeister on May 23, 2010 6:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The problem is bowtie thinks both are doing great jobs.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I really think people overstate the importance of Neukom extending Sabean and Bochy. This was a team coming off of 3 (4?) straight losing seasons, and in their first season under Neukom’s watch, they won 88 games. They didn’t make the playoffs, but it was a turnaround year. That said, our problems on and off the field are well publicized, and Sabean and Bochy have not been helping their cause this season, unless the Giants are, in fact, on their way to the playoffs this year.
If Neukom and the rest of the Giants’ trust had given Bochy and Sabean the heave-ho right away, it would have looked like they were tearing the walls down, and it would not look good to investors because it looks like franchise in serious turmoil. The extension is a token one: it says, “I want to see sustained excellence over the next two seasons, or we’re going to have to look long and hard at whether you two are the right pair to be moving this team forward.”
My guess is that unless the Giants go deep into the playoffs in the next two seasons (and maybe even if they do), at least Bochy will be gone after 2011, and the management group will decide that “It’s time to go in a new direction” with this team by handing the reins to Steve Decker and possibly promoting a new GM from within as well. We can only bide our time until then and hope that Bochy and Sabean continue to dig themselves into deeper holes through lousy PR. Since, you know, I’d prefer it if the Giants were a winning franchise in the interim.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Somebody’s sig here had the quote that Neukom credited both for the success last season.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
This?
“If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce,” Neukom said. “The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played.”
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
by esseffgeez on May 23, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for posting this
flagged for soul-crushing content
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA THE WAY ITS OUGHT TO BE PLAYED GROUND OUTS AND BENGIE MOLINA FLYOUTS LOLGIANTS
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
And we credit the Giants when they win a game. That doesn’t necessarily mean we think that they are a good baseball team or that they will be acceptable in the long run.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I’m waiting to enter the 35 straight hours of red bull and Halo stage.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I meant 36 straight hours, but I’m glad you still got my drift.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
wish i would’ve gotten a picture of his revamped “self-pleasuring panda” during the show.
might’ve been relevant for a gameday thread. damn!
Natto got a picture of it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Search function isn’t working for me, Otherwise I’d find it for you.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
PANDA
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what the fuck LOL, if only pablo was even close to that skinny. Who the fuck are those two dudes on stage? Is that gary radnich and brody brazil holding eachothers hands on stage at the bay area emmy awards the other week?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yeah, I just banned you.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
you dont see the simalarities?
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Between Gary Radnich/Brody Brazil and Andy Richter/Conan O’Brien???
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He tries so hard. It’s almost endearing.
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with wellemeyer starting tomorow sanity is limited.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
‘almost’
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 24, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
This is not some surprising development…..last season was an illusion that got us another contract for Sabean and Bochy, but little else….this roster simply doesn’t have the talent to compete over 162….they ARE playing to the talent……
by ScottinMarin on May 23, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So that sucked. I went to that game with 2 A’s fans and I had nothing to cheer about. Giants fans kept waiting for something to get excited about, but it never came.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
Giants fans kept waiting for something to get excited about, but it never came.
Fine season epitaph, Nostradamus Crakalaka.
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by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Victor Frankenstein.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw a gay porno once. I didn’t know until halfway in. The girls never came. The girls never came!
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by Scooter Ellis on May 23, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That happens in straight porno too, actually.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet that shocked you, craig sager dressed up in gaudy metro-sexual clothing.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
This next homestand will say a lot
If we get swept by Washington, it’ll be a sinking ship, Shea Hillenbrand style
See, this is why I was so uncomfortable with that whole “if we just play .500 baseball the rest of the way” line of thinking that kept popping up a few weeks ago.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
"if we just play .500 baseball the rest of the way"
That line of thinking doesn’t even work in September.
by ScottinMarin on May 23, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t like the “If you take out the record vs. the Padres” when they were 6-0 vs. the Astros.
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Ishikawa really needs to go
Only being able to play one position and being left-handed really hinders the team
yes, a pinchhitter who can't field would be a lot more useful than he is
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
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i knwo what pitchign we have will leave fuckign ginats front office and bochy needs to go
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 6:00 PM PDT reply actions
what the hell is “pitchign”, “fuckign” and “ginats”?
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How can you not knwo?
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Perspective:
Two and a hlf weeks ago or so, this team was alone in first place. Four days ago they were in second place. Now—from what I read here—they’re absolutely, positively destined for the basement at season’s end. Dear me.
Giants’ win percentage when scoring 3 or more runs = .769.
Giants’ win percentage when scoring 2 or more runs = .667.
Yes, Virginia, there is hope (unless Virginia thinks the Giants will average fewer than 2 runs a game the rest of the season.)
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That is also because all their pitchers had unsustainable ERAs in the 1s.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
And even when we were succeeding, very few people were fooled. Everyone knew we were bound to regress.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's nice, but . . .
. . . before making dismissive comments about “regression to the mean”, it would be as well to have a solid, realistic idea what the mean truly is.
For this team, I’d reckon (literally) that it is a minimum of 4.46 R/G (“minimum” because that’s not making any assumptions about improvements over career for Torres, Schierholtz, or Bowker, each of whom is making a case, of greater or lesser strength, that his major-league career-to-date stats may not be fully indicative).
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The win percentage could be 1.000 when they score more than 1 run, and it wouldn’t matter if they only did it twice a week.
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Grrr.
Have you actually DTM on what you just said? Do you really suppose the Giants will end up having been shut out in 108 games?
Through yesterday, just to finish a thought I started elsethread, their record when not completely shut out is .579; that equates to 94 wins. Obviously, they are occasionally shut out; this was, I believe, the 5th time. At that pace, they’d be shut out of 19 games and would win 57.9% of the other 143 games, or 83 total.
It doesn’t take much improvement to reduce that shutout rate. Last year, the Giants had the worst shutout rate in the league, and it was 18 games; anyone who claims that this year’s offense, however mediocre (“mediocre”, meaning “middling”) it is, is just as bad as last year’s is not engaged in meaningful discussion. So it remains perfectly plausible. Unless you think Sandoval will end up batting .280 with 10 HR.
I swear, it seems like half the people here want the Giants to be bad, and get upset at hints that perhaps the facts of the matter are else. It’s like they want reverse bragging rights: “Oh, yeah, you think your team has problems, let me tell you about mine!”
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I swear, it seems like half the people here want the Giants to be bad, and get upset at hints that perhaps the facts of the matter are else. It’s like they want reverse bragging rights: "Oh, yeah, you think your team has problems, let me tell you about mine!"
When you are surrounded by rainbows and sunshines on the airwaves every day, about how there’s magic inside and Bengie Molina is a great hitter that handles the staff, you have to let it out somewhere to keep your sanity.
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I just don’t see a lot of upside in the lineup. I think they’re relying on a lot of guys who just aren’t very good.
It’s still pretty early in the season, so I’ll probably end up being wrong.
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Actually, I was just showing why:
Giants’ win percentage when scoring 3 or more runs = .769.
Giants’ win percentage when scoring 2 or more runs = .667.
Is a misleading way to frame your argument. For one, it offers no context as to how often any of those thing are happening. And for another, it relies fairly heavily on seriously extrapolating something like 20 games’ worth of data. Which is a pattern you’re clearly tied to: “their record when not completely shut out is .579; that equates to 94 wins. Obviously, they are occasionally shut out; this was, I believe, the 5th time. At that pace, they’d be shut out of 19 games and would win 57.9% of the other 143 games, or 83 total.”
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by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of extrapolating
If you take the way the offense has performed (in terms of park-adjusted, Statcorner wOBA and extrapolate it (NEVER DO THIS FOR REALZZZ, EVERRRR), they would be somewhere around 40-45 runs below average on the year. Not good.
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I think you mistake me there:
The point was not to make exacting calculations of real-world expectations, but to demonstrate that even within the framework of what is and has been, there is nothing inherently preposterous about considering some decent eventual win totals.
People have been throwing current results around as if they clearly prove this is a terrible team, and they do no such thing. Forget projections: what we have already seen suggests decent prospects.
Much depends on things still unknowable. If Lincecum breaks a toe in the shower, all bets are off. If Neukom sweeps the board tomorrow, all bets are off. But till something like that, the future looks more than tolerable.
(Which is, in another way, a shame, because then Bochean will be here forever.)
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That’s fair enough. I just really didn’t like the way you framed what you were saying. I could use the same framework to show that the Rays are 32-12 in games in which they score at least 0 runs. It’s so easily manipulable and can get so hard to parse that it gives me fits.
I think there are reasons to believe in this team, and I think there are reasons to be skeptical of this team. I was just a little worried that the reasons you were giving for believing in this team were shrouded in “the Rays are 32-12 in games in which they score at least 0 runs” logic.
Since that appears to have not been your intent, please, carry on.
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by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude...
You really need to read onlybaseballmatters.com. You think this site is negative. Holy shit, this place is a pleasure palace of positivity compared to Perricone.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 23, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear, it seems like half the people here want the Giants to be bad, and get upset at hints that perhaps the facts of the matter are else. It’s like they want reverse bragging rights: "Oh, yeah, you think your team has problems, let me tell you about mine!"
This type of argument gets thrown around a lot, usually by folks a lot less intelligent than you. It drives me crazy, first because it’s bullshit, and secondly because my natural state of mind on baseball is optimistic. But these last several years of Giants offense have broken something inside of me. We’ve had a good five years now of having one of the worst offenses in the game EVERY YEAR, and very little (if anything) has changed in the front office’s approach. We still have the same patented Sabean system of plugging every hole with Gritty Vets. We still have young players getting half a chance or no chance at all, while struggling veterans get every chance in the world. We still have Sabean making the same excuses and badmouthing his own prospects.
Look at it this way, owlcroft: you’re the optimist in this debate, and the best you can say is that the team might be average or close to it. Stop for a second and think about how pathetic that is. You have a franchise with an above-average payroll, a franchise that has traded prospects for offensive upgrades on more than one occasion, a franchise that had Pablo Sandoval fall into its lap after magically becoming an incredible hitter a few years into his minor league career, a franchise that has had several years now of high-level first-round draft picks – and the best that can be predicted for them, even by the optimist in the discussion, is that they MIGHT be average for the first time in five years!
That’s pretty pathetic. If you’re wondering why some of us might be feeling a slight bit negative about the offense, and why we might not want to go out of our way to find reasons to be optimistic, which is what you seem to be doing based on your own description of your methodology, well, there’s your reason. Not so complicated, is it?
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by jcb9 on May 23, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
No.
I say that the offense might be average or close to it. Let Panda keep hitting as he has shown us he can and much will improve there. The pitching has to carry this team if it is to win anything: one doesn’t need much rocket science to see that.
Well-accepted numerical analysis can tell us about how good the pitching needs to be based on how many games we think it will take to win this particular division (88? 96?) and an estimate of likely seasonal runs scored.
If the pitching staff (and defense) ends up exactly equal to last year’s, they’ll allow 611 runs. Anyone saying that this year’s staff is noticeably worse than last year’s? And there’s room for improvement, in the 5th starter and in the pen, and we may actually, even with this FO, see some moves there. But call it a push with 2009.
Needed games is difficult to guesstimate. Last year’s 95 by L.A. was something of a freak show historically, but the division is looking strong again so far (but SSS). Take 90 as a competitive possibility, just to be going on with. The offense needs to provide 683 runs, or 4.22/G. They’re almost doing that now, even in this slump. Score 722 (4.56/G) and they’d win 94.
No hard and fast predictions there, but certainly common sense suggests that optimism seems more merited than pessimism.
They have actually won 22 out of 42, and even on actual runs scored and runs allowed, a “Pythagorean” shows them at 24/42, which projects to 93 wins. A next-level Pythag, which calculates runs from other data, is even better; though it rounds to the same 93 wins, it shows slightly better R and OR numbers. And that is from actual results through 42 games (Saturday’s)—no projections.
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My feeling is that the Giants hitters are currently playing closer to their ability level than they were at the beginning of the season. I think Huff has been pretty unlucky. Other than that…
Uribe’s not very good, Whiteside is horrendous, Downs is unproven, I feel that Torres is playing over his head, Molina has begun to crater, Rowand looks miserable, Bowker has shown nothing but the occasional burst of power, Ishikawa is useless, Panda has been in a terrible slump, Renteria has been done for a while, Sanchez has looked okay but hasn’t hit, and that pretty much sums it up. The pitching will continue to be excellent, and I’m sure there will be moments of glory from the offense, but unless something wild happens, this will not be a playoff team. That’s my guess.
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You don't like Uribe?
Coming into the year I thought Uribe would flop, but he has really impressed me this year
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Never did.
He’s been a good Giant, but I’ve been waiting for that other shoe to drop for some time now. Bias, I know.
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I’m with you, but doesn’t he look like a different player these days? all that “working the count” and “waiting for your pitch” stuff?
The Giants have three vets in their thirties who have suddenly learned plate discipline this year: Uribe, Molina, and Torres. It’ll be amazing if they can keep it up. I didn’t think it was possible to change so drastically at such an advanced age.
I think only Torres will keep it up
Molina will end up with a sub .300 OBP and Uribe will be somewhere in between (but closer to Molina than Torres)
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Despite Molina’s plate discipline so far, I’m worried about him. His power is way down, and that’s the only thing that’s been keeping him in the majors lo these past several years.
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Well that and his so called ability to call a good game
In all honesty I’ve given up on Molina. I hope for Posey, but I know that Molina will be the catcher if/until we fall out of the race.
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Plate discipline will get you through times of no power better than power will get you through times of no plate discipline.
by Evan on May 23, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m agnostic on whether his plate discipline will persist, though. Especially if the power continues to decline and his BABIP regresses. I have no idea how you would do the math, and even if it did I’m sure I couldn’t do it, but even with the plate discipline, if Bengie’s BABIP were at his career average right now, I suspect his line would be very, very ugly.
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If his BABIP were at his career average, he’d still have an OBP over .340.
I had a theory last year that Bengie did have a method to his free-swinging madness. Given both his speed and the awesome ineffectuality of the Giants’ offense, a walk to Bengie is less valuable than a walk to any other player in baseball. Same for singles. So he might as well hack away, get the ball in the air, and hope for as many home runs as possible.
Or maybe he was just thinking OMG IM CLEANUP HITTUR! But I do think he has changed his approach to some extent.
So, in your theory, why has he changed his approach? He’s still just as slow, and the team is currently averaging almost exactly the same number of runs per game that they did last year, so the lesser value of his being on first base still applies.
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Yeah, I dunno. Meulens, maybe?
The tremendous increase in plate discipline this year, on the part of the entire roster except Rowand, really is remarkable. Something’s going on.
At a glance, Sandoval’s plate discipline looks very similar to last year.
I do hope Meulens is really able to be plate discipline magic, though. He’s one of the few folks in management who I can bring myself to like.
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OK, I’ll check walk rates thus far with what Chone/Zips projected. In order of plate appearances:
Sandoval: up
Huff: up
Uribe: way up
Rowand: down
Molina: way up
Torres: way up
Schierholtz: up
DeRosa: slightly down
Renteria: slightly down
Downs: way up
Bowker: down
Velez: way up
Whiteside: down
As a team they’ve gone from a 7.4% walk rate in 2008 and 6.5% in 2009 to 8.0%.
Sandoval’s walk rate may be up a little but his swing rates are pretty much identical, if I recall from looking it up last year.
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by E Ticket on May 24, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
yeah at the beginning of the year I thought Uribe would end up being terrible….(230/.280/.400) but he has really impressed me so far this year
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Sandoval is NOT SLUMPING
Panda has been in a terrible slump
The “Slump” was May 1-13 when he hit .104 (5/48)
May 14-23 Sandoval hitting .314 (11/35)
Not being Ty Cobb does not mean one is slumping.
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Together that makes 16/83. That comes out to .192.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
And if someone hits .100 for a month and then .300 for a month, that means they’re hitting .200 for the season. The first month is the slump. The second stretch is coming out of a slump.
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A Slump is by defintion a downward trend; the Panda is trending up.
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selective endpoint, etc.
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meh, but he is partially right. You could really look at it either way. Im just a pessimist.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
April was .368, nobody had a problem with that
Panda finished that month with a 10-game hit streak.
However, starting MAY 1 he had in succession:
2-game hitless streak
1 game with 2 hits
3-game hitless streak
1 game with 1 hit
1 hitless game
2-game hit streak
1 hitless game
(that my friends, is a SLUMP)
btw, LOL Jeter Haters
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But the whole concept of a slump is based around selective endpoints. You can’t possibly cite a slump period without selecting endpoints. So if you’re going to cite slump periods, you need to be able to accept the opposite.
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by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
The trick is scoring at least two runs. Our team has scored 1 or 0 runs in 8 games. That means that we’ve one pitcher get Cain’d a week, roughly, and that’s not counting the games where we only score two runs and lose, of which there have been 4. The Giants score 2 runs or less 1/3 of the time… Regardless of the quality of pitching that you’re facing, that’s not very good, especially when you’re 6-10 in 1-run games.
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Joe Morgan said, “The Giants are lucky they got Molina, and the Mets are lucky they got Barajas. Everybody’s happy.”
Jon set him straight on that right quick.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions
With that comment Joe Morgan has solidified his spot in the Idiot HOF
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 23, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT did it? They named a wing of that place after him!
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
When I heard joe morgan say that I face palmed harder than matt cain after going 8 and giving up a run and losing. The best part about thewhole ordeal was jon miller corrected him and informed him bengie molina has been extremely unproductive and has not had an rbi in 18 days. Joe morgan was so stunned, he promptly shrugged and thought of bengies RBI’s and HR’s from last year and confirmed to himself he’s smart.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 24, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: GIS result for Matt Cain
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More on this in the notes, but Jeremy Affeldt said he doesn’t know how serious his tweaked left hamstring is. Affeldt has never had a hamstring problem before, but at least he had a sense of humor about it: "Hopefully my hamstring is lying to me."
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 6:20 PM PDT reply actions
Great news
The Giants will be facing Livan Hernandez on Tuesday. Expect few runs.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Giants offense is worse than ever (LOL!)
“I don’t know what I can say,” Sanchez said with a look that said way more than his seven words.
“It’s really tough. It’s frustrating. It’s very sad,” catcher Bengie Molina said. “Every day they go out there and we don’t score for them, and they end up pitching the way they do.”
“It’s a waste. It’s a big waste.”
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
It was rough watching Sanchez in the dugout after he was pulled.
by Seasick fish on May 23, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup I felt so bad for Jonathan he just looked so defeated and he just kind of looked like he was also blaming himself even though he did really well today. It’s so hard to watch this good pitching go to waste.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
by sanfrankid on May 23, 2010 8:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This table kinda says it all, and this was before the 0 run support Jonathan got today.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Sanchez gets Cain’d more than Can. Ick.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
And Sanchez’d doesn’t sound quite right.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Dirty’s getting Dirtied.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Sullied.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 23, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain*
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking at the game logs, the Giants scored 10 runs in Cain’s first start. Since then, they’ve scored 22 runs for him. So if you take out that first game, his run support is around 2.6, too.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Timmys number is extremely inflated. They scored 9 runs for him in LA in that game they won 9-0, they also scored 9 runs in that extra inning game that timmy started, add in the lol chase field trip and he got another 7 runs. His supports been decent this year, however the bullpen behind him has regressed to something even latroy hawkins is ashamed of.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Holy shit. Thats Astros-esque
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
2.35 runs per game? sanchez would be better off on the indians LOL
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
New slogan!
GIANTS BASEBALL: It’s a waste. It’s a big waste.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
ficksed
GIANTSBASEBALLCATCHER:It’sHas awastewaist. And — It’s a bigwasteWAIST.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Ahem:
Bengie Molina said "Every day they go out there and we don’t score for them . . . ."
Who you calling “we”, fat boy? (Inside every big fat catcher, there is a skinny little OBA wanting to be free.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
LOL
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL YANKEES
LOL SABATHIA
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Fuck
All I needed was for Sabathia to have a bad game and or Bay to not hit 2 HRs. At least I got 1.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Edit: Wow. That was even worse than I’d imagined. I can’t believe Edgar Renteria and Freddy Sanchez didn’t fix things right away.
Well, of course not. All of Sabean and Baer’s “guys” aren’t out there. When* DeRosa is back then look out. Then we’ll see what S&B envisioned.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 23, 2010 7:06 PM PDT reply actions
On the Bright Side
this could finally get SaBean fired :)
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
He hasn’t been fired the last 5 years. What’s changed?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
dude, I started getting suspicious when he signed Edgardo Alfonzo, instead of just giving the job to Pedro. Save some money and go get a big fish.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But Edgardo Alfonzo is Pedro Feliz.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
exactly. Alfonzo was $4M in 2003, 6.5 in 2004, and 7.5 in 2005.
Felix—325k, 850k, 2.3M. That’s a difference of $14 million. dollars right there, and SaBean has made similar mistakes over and over, ever since. He gets so much cred for the Williams/Kent thing, but maybe that was just luck. It was a hella long time ago, to boot.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you missed the joke.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
...I was doing the "we are all Pedro Feliz" joke
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double entendre
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
read my newsletter above
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
can you just tell it to me?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
since the Giants can’t find a way to fire Sabean for the right reasons, I hope they fire him and Bochy for the wrong reasons.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on May 23, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
IAWTC
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
speaking of which
To reiterate my prediction a couple of days ago: the way things are going, I’m pretty sure a Sabean media meltdown is coming.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Good lord what a pathetic day AGAIN, the only good thing that came out of it was me going golfing, i honestly can’t stand the fact they can’t fucking hit a ball to save their life
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Sanchez should hit 8th, it might be magic.
Renteria back to #2 — .364 OBP (maths, Nerds)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I would go for enchiladas, but that’s just because I’m in Florida now and I really miss being able to get decent Mexican food.
All good options, though!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I'd lean towards Enchiladas
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
And I had Tri-Tip tonight BTW
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Sweet. I’m having chicken adobo.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Touché.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Indian
Get you some chicken ticamasala or chicken vindaloo with some good flat bread.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Had some buffalo wild wings
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I've never been to that place
…actually IDK if there is one in Sacto.
Anyway is that place any good?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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It’s OK, i mean, it’s just wings and a bunch of other stuff, burgers, but it’s definitely worth trying out
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
OK, I like trying out sports bar type places
The general consenus has been your reaction though-it’s ok not great
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Oh, that reminds me
First time I went to BWW was during a Tito Ortiz fight. Our waitress, a huge fan of his, would keep screaming (we could hear her across the packed dining room) every time they showed him on the TV and stopped coming to our table when the fight started. Worst waitress ever.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That's terrible
I remember I went to IHOP when I was younger and out waitress when on break before we left so we were just waiting for our bill for a good while. That was not good.
…Also who cheers for Tito Ortiz? I watch MMA and I can’t understand how people can like him.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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I hate it
But I also hate most wing places (including Wing Stop and Hooters and BWW)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
The best buffalo wings place I’ve ever found: Princeton, New Jersey. Figure that.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I'm partial to Korean-style chicken wings
But only homemade. I feel like paying for them at most places is a rip-off.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
that's kinda weird
i don’t really have a problem with it, it’s AIGHT
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I think the only good experience I had was when they had 50 cent drumstick nights
I got out of there spending only like $7 on drums, fries, and a drink.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Maybe that’s why I hate wing places: I can fry all this at home for a fraction of the cost, in not that much time, and it will be at least as tasty most of the time.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I went to Hooters when I was 10
So I’ve never fully enjoyed the, uhh, atmosphere of the place.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Don't think i'll ever go to Hooters
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Why?
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
dunno
guess i’m just not into that whole thing with the ladies there
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Hmmm
from what I’ve heard the waitresses can be kinda…hit & miss. Also, I’ve heard it’s not good if you’re going there to eat a good meal.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Kinda the whole thing i’m into, just wanting to eat some food and that’s it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Yeah, I understand that
I think hooters is kinda overrated
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Smoke Eaters FTW
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on the place for sushi
Otherwise, Indian
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Indian.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Gee I don’t know.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Watching the Giants bat is more humorous.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Though not for lack of effort by Howie.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come now
…Did I do it right?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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If only I tried as hard in bed as I try to be funny here….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Suggestion for bed
Humming the theme to the Gong Show and more prop humor.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Watching the giants bat is always funny, i usually watch it if i'm having a bad day
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
But the Meme's
and TWSS’S
Giants baseball is slow torture
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
The Giants can't lose tomorrow!
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Has it been brought up
That we have totally sucked since Mole got here?
SSS, yes? Coincidence, I don’t think so. We’d been up and down at times but have completely fallen off a cliff since his arrival. He’s not a Giant. He doesn’t belong here. He is AJ mark 2 minus giving up a hall of famer.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 23, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
I guess we'll have to wait to wait for him to leave . . .
to have Bruce Jenkins tell us that nobody liked him and he kneed Bochy in the groin. NTTAWWT.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on May 23, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
We were totally sucking just before he got here, too, iirc.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 23, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
this
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You think Nathan is a Hall of Famer?
Huh. He’s pretty amazing, but not that many closers make it.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I dont think there is any connection. He has been here longer than DeRosa, Huff etc.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He is AJ mark 2 minus giving up a hall of famer.
Also, not a despised douche.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You can look at it another way
The 5-game losing streak began when we optioned Velez. D:
OT – Whoa, a pic of Bumgarner smiling!
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
ISWYDT
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 24, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He looks so happy!!!!
YAY FOR BUMGARNER
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
That’s the face of a pitcher who sees crooked numbers on the scoreboard, soon he’ll regress to the “Matt cain I just pitched a CG gave up 1 run and lost sad face”.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s not serious enough. That’s what happens when you get married, you lose your focus.
/sabean
Adopted father of Eric Surkamp, the next great big-eared soft tossing lefty in SF Giants History!
by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
this is terrifying
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
HOLY SHIT WHAT
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It just a phase. When he is called up he will go back to this:
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on May 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
He doesn’t even look like the same person
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 24, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
So, we are a little more than a quarter of the way through the season
It looks like this is the Giants actual level of performance (22-21). They had some good hitting, they had some awful hitting, they’ve had mostly good pitching with some bad pitching.
Now, they are towards the top in runs prevented and towards the bottom in runs scored.
Everything seems right in line with expectations, no?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I think we're a bit better than a ~.500 team
but this is about right. I don’t think this roster as of May 23rd is a playoff caliber roster.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I thought that last year was a huge overachieve, so in retrospect, nothing much changed this year. HENCE, a .500 season is not out of the question.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it's reasonable to have a .500 season
I think Sabes said his plan was try and play .500 ball last year, be competitive this year, and make a run last year. Then we were better than .500 last year and Sabes got confused.
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
damnit, confused sabes
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well TBF he is always confused
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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yeah, but it’s easy to get one’s hopes up with a little winning streak
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The good news: I thought we’d be behind the Rockies in the standings.
The bad news: I thought we’d be ahead of the Padres.
Otherwise, I had us at fourth in the division, which we pretty much are now.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Because I really don’t feel like studying tonight, I went and read the post-game thread from last year. Didn’t take long…there were only 175 posts.
Cain with his fifth win (a CG in Seattle) and Panda with amazing D. Seems like MCC was a much happier place then. :(
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
only 175?
Compared to the 2500 last night?
damn.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
Ridiculous, huh?
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
STAR WARZ MARATHON!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Wasn’t that the only game we won in the series?
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worth repeating
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well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
at first i couldn’t handle the negativity here. after the way they have played the last 10.. im pretty much on par with everyone else now.
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
I think that we’re just reflective of the situation
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Jon Miller:
Talking about the Mets trying to figure things out: “What about Carlos Beltran? Whither Beltran?”
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Bloomberg sez...
This is Lincecum, Zito, Cain, Sanchy and Wilson vs. all MLB pitchers:
…and this is Torres, Freddy, Sandoval, Molina, Huff, Rowand, Renteria and Bowker vs. all MLB hitters:
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
That’s pretty, but I have no earthly idea what it means.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Sorry, should’ve been more clear – it’s comparing the players’ average fantasy value relative to the MLB average in a 5×5 format.
The blue represents the average, the yellow represents the Giants.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Also, which color represents which group?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess that would make sense. I really do not find these kind of charts useful.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That reminds me of pokemon.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Lakers losing = win
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
WHOOO!
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Derek Jeter is teh Awesome
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
I hate to admit it!
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on May 23, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
yea, he's pretty fuckin good
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOL, KNBR, Berkman and Oswalt for Bumgarner, Freddy Sanchez, Brett Pill, and a few other young guys…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Meh. I might consider it if I thought the Giants really had a legit shot at a championship this year. Bumgarner is the only one I would care about losing.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that's true
Although, again I can’t see how the Giants can take on both of those contracts
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Yeah, the Astros would have to take on some of their contracts.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I mean those guys are making almost 30 million combined
Like I said the other day I think the Giants have about 5-10M available in taking on contracts
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K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
You had me at LOL KNBR
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Last week I would’ve done this in a heartbeat. Now I’m not so sure that Berkman alone could rescue this offense. Time to blow the entire thing up and start from scratch
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 23, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
since owlcroft scolded me for judging total runs scored, instead of runs per game
I give you, again, runs per game among National League teams (the Mets are still playing, but have probably batted for the last time)
1) Diamondbacks: 5.33
2) Phillies: 5.28
3) Brewers: 5.18
4) Dodgers: 5.09
5) Reds: 4.93
6) Rockies: 4.68
7) Marlins: 4.67
8) Braves: 4.59
9) Cubs: 4.51
10) Mets: 4.38
11) Cardinals: 4.36
12) Nationals: 4.31
13) Padres: 4.27
14) Giants: 4.07
15) Pirates: 3.39
16) Astros: 3.00 (hey, they’ve broken into the 3s! WHOOOOO!)
League average = 4.50
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
need to see how those runs are distributed against the games
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what you’re asking for.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
well, runs per game is an average, so there’s probably handful of high scoring games that are distorting the reality which may be that the Giants struggle to score even 3 day to day basis.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
well, let's see
The Giants have scored:
10 runs: 1
9 Runs: 3
8 runs: 2
7 runs: 2
6 runs: 7
5 runs: 5
4 runs: 4
3 runs: 2
2 runs: 7
1 runs: 5
0 runs: 5
…except that appears to add up to 42, and the Giants have played 43 games. D’oh. I’m too tired to count it again.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Check here:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/inning_summary.cgi?year_game=2010&team_id=SFG
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
joe morgan, defending his undefendable position
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
The giants offense is so horrible even joe morgan randomly brought it up on sunday night baseball, now that is embarrassing.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
lolz k-rod is about to pull a wilson
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
he’s melting. literally.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
lol arod fouling off fastballs down the middle
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
here comes the hanger
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
kaz rodriguez
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
well, that was a helluva pitch
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
it's nice to see some good baseball!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 23, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
that was pretty funny, when he had the 3-1 count he got a 0 movement fastball right down broadway and fouled it off, molina status right there.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
BOWKER 4 CANO
GIT R DUN GINATS BRASZ
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
we can tell the yankees that bowker hit a game tying 2 out 9th inning pinch hit home run off k-rod, that will surely convince them of his greatness.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I'm sure Bowker would blow up in their yard.
LHB power friendly
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
if he got 500 ab’s in the 7th or 8th spot he’d probably hit 30+ home runs, walk 50+ times, and hit around .260 and actually be a very potent bottom of the order hitter.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
NOBODY CARES
In the POKEMONZ League, my team is now in first place by a 18.5 point margin.
SUCK IT, 13 OTHER MCCOVEN IN THE LEAGUE!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
You have good players, and then they give you points. I think.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
sounds like you might wanna keep giants hitters off that list with no exceptions.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
My only Giant is Matt Cain.
I also have Roy Oswalt.
Hey, guess what!? Even though my pitchers are in the top five in ERA, WHIP, and Ks, but dead last in Wins. Gee, I wonder how that happened.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I just have no idea how the scoring works. On some days I’ll have guys who have good games and I’m expecting to get positive points but I’ll be in the negative and I’m like whaaa
Ask me about my blog.
oh, I thought you were being sarcastic!
You have, usually, ten statistical categories. Five pitching, five hitting. In our case, Wins, ERA, WHIP, Ks, SV, Runs, HR, RBI, SB, OPS.
In each category, the teams are ranked based on relative performance in each category. If your team has more Home Runs, for example, than any other team in the league, and there are 14 teams, you get 14 points. If your team is second in Home Runs, you get 13 points, etc., down to 1 point for last place in the category.
Your number of points in each category is added up to give you your total score.
If that makes sense.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
using an example from our specific league
My offense has been really good. I lead the league in Runs, HR, RBI, and OPS. So, I have 14 points for each of those categories. However, I’m sixth in the league in steals, so I have 9 points in that category. And, as I mentioned, I’m dead last in wins (LOL Cain, LOL Oswalt, and, for different reasons, LOL Peavy), so I only have 1 point in that category.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Wait, now that I check, I’m TIED for last in Wins now. So I have 1.5 points for that. whoo.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I’m in a 12-team league that uses the following pitching categories:
W, K, HR allowed, Quality Starts, ERA, WHIP, and SV+Holds
I kept Peavy from last year because he was discounted, but now he’s teetering on the edge of just getting outright dropped.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I had expected to drop Marcum when Strasburg comes up, but it looks like it’ll be Peavy instead.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Whew, I thought I was the only one new to fantasy baseball. I’ve since figured things out but when we were drafting players, I didn’t know we had to draft a team – i.e. a 1B, 2B, etc., I thought we were just picking the best players available, so I picked 3 1Bs, 2 closers and 4 OFs in the early rounds.
It seems to have worked out ok, but then I’ve also been burning up the waiver wire.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Chasm? I'll assume no, but suspect yes.
In a head to head league, you compare the runs, HRs, RBI, and what not produced by the guys in your lineup with those in your opponents’ over the course of a week, and the Ks, ERA, WHIP, etc in your respective pitching staffs. Then you count the categories you won, lost, and tied. So a typical record at the end of one week in a 5×5 category league might be 6-3-1.
In a rotisserie league, you compare season stats against the rest of the league. If, over the course of the season, your players have hit more homers than any other in a 12-team league, you get 12 points. Second-most, 11 points, and so on. So in a 5×5 league, the most points you could have is 120 points, and the fewest is twelve.
5×5 is
R, RBI, HR, AVG, and SB on offense and
Winz, Savez, Ks, ERA, and WHIP for pitchers.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to you and jcb. I’m being serious, I don’t play much fantasy baseball. I just started a couple of years ago.
How do you get negative points?
Ask me about my blog.
You can’t! Unless you’re talking about on a daily level. If you start out the day leading the league in Home Runs, but then two other teams surpass you, it would show you as -2 for the day in that category.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Sounds like you might be in a league that punishes for blown saves, or GIDP, or something.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, we’re 5×5, except for using OPS instead of AVG.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Ah. Then you nailed it up above.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 23, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I might be in first tomorrow. I forget who is ahead of me. I only won by 1 point though.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I'm happy with what my team is doing
This is where I remind EVERYBODY that I worked during our draft and therefore the auto-draft left me with:
1. No closers
2. Billy Butler as my first baseman
I still only have one closer at the moment, although I’m expecting Chris Perez to be put back in that role any time now (lol Kerry Wood).
Now if only somebody will trade me a closer, I could make a run at ya.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
What team are you?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Move the Fences in
Our yahoo account is in my wife’s name.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Damn your not in my league. I wanted to trade you a closer.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I want you to trade me a closer too
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I have three guys on the DL (Street, Posada, Ethier – plus I recently gave up on Bedard), and one guy in the minors (Strasburg), yet I seem to keep gaining points. I’m magic.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
All my pitchers (Beckett, Jurjens and Penny) are getting hurt!
I had to drop Rajai today to pick up Sean Marhsall.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm actually expecting to make a run soon
I’ve had two good days in a row. My offense is pretty close to the top in all areas (I was even above your team in OPS earlier). My pitching has actually been somewhat unlucky. I was getting it close to the top (when I was in first) and then I chose to pitch Johan against the Phillies when he was apparently tipping pitches and then chose to sit Jaime Garcia a couple of times against good offensive teams (he pitched well in both of those).
I expect my pitching to start climbing the ladder again.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I envision
Giants game highlights (GIDP, K’s etc) being played in fast forward to the tune of Benny Hill.
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
omg you guys
LOST
omg.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I really liked it, though I hope they explain a few things obviously.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I loved the resolution of the sideways world. I thought that was beautiful. but I almost feel it was at the expense of the island mythology
I think it was really about the characters in the end, though, so I was okay with it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hated it
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
**CLICK THIS SUBJECT LINE IF YOU HAVEN'T YET SEEN THE LAST EPISODE**
The answers to all the questions of lost: IT WAS MAGIC
No questions were answered. For example: When we first met Jacob and the man in black, we knew that they were mysterious dudes with powers of unknown origin.
Now? We know that they were mysterious dudes with powers of unknown origin. Oh, and they had a mom. Who also had magic powers.
So, let’s get this straight
Widmore=Pointless
Walt=pointless
Anna Lucia=Pointless
Any Black Character (Eko, Walt…)=pointless
Dharma=pointless
Hugos numbers=pointless
Magic abilities to see dead people=randomly unexplained
Why the fuck did the series devote so much time to these things if it was never going to give them any purpose or raise d’etre?
Also, the fact that (spoiler alert) the flash-sideways was purgatory makes this entire season’s worth of flash-sideways COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. None of the details of their lives there mattered. They didn’t need to actually grow or strive or change there – they just needed to eventually bump into each other.
Let me ask you this: What is the island?
I can’t believe that the show ended without answering that question.
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Thanks for the warning
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
all replies to this specifically discussing the ep should probably have subject lines as well.
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
SPOILERS
But they did all need to grow and do different things there (that’s WHY their lives were all different there.) They needed to work through their issues/atone for their sins/etc before they could move on. That’s why Ben wasn’t ready to move on yet, etc.
As for the rest, I can get why you’re mad that they didn’t explain everything, but I think in the end, they decided to make it about the characters rather than about the mythology. Which is frustrating, but I understand why. And I don’t get why the ending made everything in the whole series pointless, per se. I mean, it happened. Christian said that. It was all real. But the characters all got to have a happy ending and be together in the end, which was perfectly fine by me.
Again, though, I can understand your complaints.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
SPOILER!!!
Also, Frank lived.
So everything else was just gravy
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
SPOILERS
I liked it a heck of a lot as a standalone episode, but it leaves me feeling like all of the island mysteries are pointless — which I guess is a good thing since they were teased for six years and left unexplained for the most part. I get that that may be part of the whole point (“ultimately this stuff doesn’t matter, who we are and what we do does,” etc.) but to me it feels like a copout. I mean, couldn’t we have had that ending to any type of character-based show with ultimately the same meaning? What was the point of all the weird stuff that happened on the island that wasn’t related to “character growth”?
I guess we can’t really discuss it quite yet, but I feel like a lot of people… like… missed what happened even though [spoiler] explicitly said it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think there are a lot of people that are confused.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 23, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOST SPOILER
Mr. Rourke puts Tattoo in a sack and dumps him in the lagoon.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. I have to say that I’m pretty satisfied with that ending. It was pretty beautiful
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 23, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Some News.. Kinda
The good news: Bochy said he’s sticking with it, meaning Andres Torres and Freddy Sanchez will have at least a few more games to get the offense back in gear.
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
As long as Sabean is here, we are going to have a crummy offense. Might as well just get over it, move on, and hope our starters throw a shutout everyday.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
passing thoughts
The Giants have now gone 20 innings without scoring a run. I’m wondering – and I have no idea – how likely is it that a Joe Average Normal team will go through that long a scoreless stretch at some point over the course of a season?
I do recall the Giants going around 100 games without a home run at one point in 2008. That was fun, too. Hey, how long has it been since we had a home run?
Checking…the last two were the back-to-back ones by Bowker and Uribe in the 6th inning on May 20th. So that’d be 30 innings.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
LOl Freudian slip
I do recall the Giants going around 100 games without a home run at one point in 2008
I think you mean “100 innings.” But maybe not.
Giants Baseball: TORTURE
Hah. You’re right.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
OT: Dana Eveland DFA'd. Flier-taking?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/05/blue-jays-to-designate-dana-eveland-for-assignment.html
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I'd rather have Joey Martinez
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear Pedro’s getting ready to pitch again…
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
knowing our luck he’ll sign with the dodgers and toss 4 different shutouts against us down the stretch.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
You mean we can haz division games against Oswalt AND Pedro? YAY!
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Don’t forget that brandon webb will come back and pitch line jiminez, along with del la rosa also coming back and chris young. It will be a painful summer, many 0’s and ground outs await us.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
If you were an olde pitcher and had been watching the Giants pitiful offense would you sign with them? I don’t think so.
If you were a younge pitcher
with your life ahead of you, would you sign a long-term contract with them?
Hey! This is a trick question! Must be a professional educator!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 24, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
IAWTC
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd like YEAH JOEY too
Pedro would be the best though
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I have a few questions
1)If you had a job to do and couldnt get it done for five years, would you get fired? I would. If you wasted millions of dollars trying to get your job done with no results, would you get fired? I would. Is it me or does the Giants organization sound like the government when it comes to waste and no results?
2)Who fixes this offense? Is there one player? Because I do NOT want to see Sabean trade MadBum, Crawford and Neal for a package of mediocrity. I think its a one for one kind of deal. Like Cain for Fielder, but not that. I like Fielder, but Mays Field would break off and sink into the ocean if he and Pablo and Bengie got on base at the same time. Talk about Bases Loaded! Plus Fielder has that break-down body and will need to DH. Plus I love Cain, so…
I might be crazy but I think Carl Crawford would be a PERFECT fit for this park and this lineup. Maybe Sanchez bats 1 and Crawford bats 2?
My second choice, and call me crazy again, but Hunter Pence. If the Astros continue to implode, I would LOVE to see him on the team.
Who do we want?
by projectmayhem713 on May 23, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions
OT: Wow, absolutely feel out of it right now, and i’m definitely not looking forward to seeing my girlfriend considering i gotta drive 4 or so hours to fucking Cleveland and spending two days with her parents… but hey, just watched a few youtube videos of Patrick Willis and i definitely feel alot better, plus reading through a few threads here
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Cleveland? Brutal.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
hey
Drew Carey and Ryan Stiles told me Cleveland Rocks!!!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 23, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Cleveland?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I went to this game today.
I have some brief thoughts, but I also have one very long, not-work-safe thought, as well. It goes something like this:
Over the last few years, Brian Sabean has shown an amazing ability to flush large numbers of dollars down the fucking toilet. He has paid Barry Zito $18m a season, Aaron Rowand $12m, Sanchez $6m, Huff $4m,and DeRosa $6m, and yet has been totally out of the bidding for the actual bona fide offensive players in free agency over that span. Instead of going with the obvious plan, “stars and jars,” in which you decline to sign guys who are minor upgrades over your in-house options, and instead pool that money to buy a few offensive difference-makers, he has gone with a group of decrepit, aging veterans whose best years are far in the rear-view mirror. It’s not surprising when they are unable to duplicate performances from earlier in the career, and yet Sabean inexplicably does things like selling Fred Lewis for a bucket of horse crap.
I think I’m still scarred from the origin of the “lunatic fringe,” which was passing on Vladimir Guerrero at $70m/5 years, even though he put up $80m worth of value in his contract with Anaheim. Also, apparently Sabean didn’t even bother contacting Adam Dunn’s agent before last season when he was a FA.
These are all things that have been said a thousand times before, but it was really, really hard watching this game today. It’s at the point where when Juan Uribe lines the shit out of the ball and it seems like it’s going to be a hit, I had every confidence that it would be caught. Twice with a runner on second and nobody out, and you can’t score a run either time? Fuck.
Thing C
I’m curious to see the percentage of giants fans that want brian sabean fired, I’d say 95%, and even that might be to generous to sabean.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
right now?
you’d be correct. 2 weeks ago? I’d go 45%.
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I think the mccoven were 95% 2 weeks ago, after getting sweeped by the padres at home 99%, and after this road trip its definately 99.99999999999999999999999999999%, with the .1% being the fitz and brooks mojo cursing the giants.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Massive hyperbole is hyperbolic.
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What was the non work safe thought?
does it involve that girl known as the “whore of pro tour?”
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Yeah Cathy Nicoloff lol she dated like every pro player. I wonder if Ben Ruben got lucky with her.
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No, she had standards.
Also, did you know that her nickname was “Ghazban Ogre”? I love that.
Thing C
I thought we were talking about all giants fans, not just the ones on this site.
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah
Most Giants fans buy into the “WE’RE IN THIS THING!!” from last year. I say about 20-30%
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Where do we draw the line of a Giant fan? Is someone who watches 3 games a year and has an old giants hat in their closet a fan? If so I’d say 20-30% is possible.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on May 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been to enough games and over hear people talk about the team that made me facepalm a ton.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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This is very true, I guess I just generalized the mccoven and assumed all other people who pay attention to the giants have brain cells. If you include everyone in the bay area who pays attention to the giants and knows who brian sabean is, I’d have to say 25%, sadly.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
These are the Giants fans who think Bengie is a great hitter because of the RIBEYEZZ
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
there are also sharks players who think bengie molina is the most exciting player to watch on the giants, no wonder they didn’t show up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody should of had them define “exciting”. From a “I wonder if his pants’ll fall down on his way to 1st” standpoint, yeah, he’s exciting.
merope
en fuego this AM!
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
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by natteringnabob on May 24, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I think in general, that is true. However, after this recent losing & scoreless streak, the number climbs drastically.
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not so sure. I think these are fans who think “they’ll get out of it”.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Dave flemming today spent 3 minutes doing a monologue repeating that line over and over again, “don’t worry giants fans it will be fine and everyone will start producing!”
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
even after getting crushed by the A’s?
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Right before they switched over to michael “SUP A’S FANS!!!” urban, flemming went off on that topic probably reading from a urgent e-mail sent by larry baer.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, I suppose SF is less of an overreacting sports town than LA or new york or boston
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by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian Sabean: Accepting mediocrity since 2003.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I was out and about. I had the radio on and someone called Fitz and Brooks and got on Giants fans for being so negative in May. He used the “They’ll get out of it” line.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Sounds about right, however if you only count people who follow (and have followed) the Giants well, I would say that number climbs to at least 50%
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on May 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What would be interesting . . .
. . . is to not only know the number, but know the comparable numbers for most or all other MLB cities. It could be that having 25% of your fans wanting the GM canned is a spectacularly large fraction. I, at least, have no idea whatever.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
i hate bochy's
grey eyelashes on his right eye!!! wtf is up with that??
monotoned = losing team, nobody pays attention to boring ass coaches
DUBfan4life!!!!
by BayAreaKidd650 on May 23, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions
Jeez, physiognomy critics.
Bochy can shave his eyebrows and walk backwards if it keeps him fired.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift A
FUCK.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
i totally agree, this is pretty much the word that describes my day
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Poor PiKA, what happened?
Now that you’ve posted the teaser you have to spill your tale of woe.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of shit talking on my girlfriend today courtesy of friends that are tryin to look out for me, plus the LOLSHARKS and LOLGIANTS didn’t help. The only thing that actually was good was my golf game…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
LOLSHARKS has been uttered today more times than brians sabeans name used in derogatory comments, you could say people are a bit frustrated.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Condolences.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie molinas “single” in the 8th inning summed up todays game well.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT was bizarre.
People clamor for hits. Sure, he didn’t hit a towering seven run blast but he didn’t strike/ground/fly out.
And most of what I read was people bashing him.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s frustrating to see a guy hit a ball that would be a double for ANY other player and only get a single out of it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
even shaq with jose molina’s legs would have had a double, and that’s putting it nicely for bengie.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It was almost like watching CC try to run today after getting a single
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
haha even that was more graceful, cc would have had a stand up double with ease on that hit by bengie the snail.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He has this blog...
(ducks banhammer)
Well, that’s something to throw into the “Whaddya Gonna Do?” file.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont think it was that bad. The ball didn’t even get into the corner. A lot of players would not have made second.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He was only just getting to first base when the fielder got the ball back into the infield. That’s ridiculous.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, yeah. I’m not arguing that he isn’t ridiculously slow.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie, despite his physical abundances and shortcomings, manages to get on base.
Count your blessings.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Only about 30 percent of the time, though.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
we all appreciate him when he dunks a single and then immediately is part of a FPOM GIDP, but at least joe morgan thinks “The giants were lucky to get him back”. So lucky that everytime bengie hits a line drive single, I am concerned he’s going to get thrown out at first.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This isn't new, you've seen this show before.
I suppose if it feeds some need to vent then it’s fodder, but jeez… the guy actually beat the odds against him, which he’s done before – and he’s steamrollered by the collective as if he hadn’t succeeded at all.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s unfortunate for bengie is the fact that he’s on the worst offensive team in baseball. Thanks to the giants toting him like some feared slugger anchoring the line up, people expect results and get B&S’d and feel the need to blame the slow one.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 23, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
My issue is that he knew it was impossible to get to second. It was beyond conception. He didn’t bother to lift his feet higher than six inches while approaching first. That ain’t a major league athlete. Forget about his lumbering toward second not pitches after.
He’s has two athletic traits: toughness and hand-eye coordination. Both of them work against him.
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HE'S HAS!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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this
1000% agree, it was downright pathetic and a complete laxidasical effort. He hit it softly down the line and was thinking “single” the entire way, he did a home run trot to first like he had just accomplished something, quality effort. It’d be one thing if he ran hard out of the box and ran through first and went halfway, instead the word “double” only crossed his mind when he thought of In N out while trotting to the dugout after conseuctive fpom’s from teamates.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 24, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you Rip Van Winkel?
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You’ll be well-rested.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Forget your Giants woes and look at this.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Wow, those bastards couldn’t at least make the poles look like legs!?
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on May 23, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it safe to read above if I have not yet watched the Lost series finale?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions
OMG LOST!!!
DO IT DO IT DO IT
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I thought I saw one fake Lost spoiler, just said the giants lost. Oh, sifting through Jponry mentions lost and there’s a spoiler in the sub-responses (unless its chasms since I don’t watch the show.)
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on May 23, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We didn’t say anything specific
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I played it safe and skipped through that conversation.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The spoiling of dramatic "Lost" situations has gone viral.
I saw some reference to that on a non baseball related site and had to smile.
People really get sucked into serial TV worlds.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t tell me you didn’t cry at the end of Gilmore Girls.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It took all the mind numbing drugs in my arsenal to withstand the urge to.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You resisted!??
But Lorelei finally got with Luke for good! It was so romantic!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And her parents approved!
/wife has entire show on DVD
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I enjoyed that show for a bit, but stopped watching after season 3
Adopted father of Eric Surkamp, the next great big-eared soft tossing lefty in SF Giants History!
by Speedforthewin on May 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
My mom and sister watched it religiously. I was collateral damage.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 23, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to like the show for its dialogue.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I have laughed at a couple of the jokes that have whizzed by.
Sometimes the dialogue was over the top and too fast.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yeah, it was funny at first, then the whole thing kinda got stale.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 23, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I watched a few minutes of an episode three or four years ago.
I lasted that long because I have a thing for long hair.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That must've been bad
my girlfriend watched it ALL THE TIME, and it’d piss me off, i’d just be in bed and she’d watch gilmore girls and i’d just say “OH FUCKING SHIT LIZ, REALLY!!!!!?!?!!?”
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
In all fairness, it's not the worst chick show of all time.
And you were in bed with her. So count your blessings.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
more like, this was in between classes and i just wanted to relax and just hang, but OH NO, i can’t do that, sooo antisocial, couldn’t watch the show and talk to me, had to be ONLY the show, ha
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Oh...well. LOL U then
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
EXACTLY
so these next two days will be just terrible, she has NO internet, so it’s gonna be chick flick after chick flick
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well, there are other things you could do to pass the time.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
So, nothing in common and no sex. Sounds like a winner to me.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
See if you can slip in The Marrying Man.
You both might like it.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I have always had a soft spot for Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
People do like their adopted surrealities.
Hell, I don’t like people yakking through some movie I have an appreciation for.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Spent the entire day in Sedona
What a damn waste of time to actually come home and look at the boxscore. If anyone had of asked me I could have just guessed what the boxscore looked like and been almost exactly right.
Just another day when the part of me that’s sane checks in here expecting to find out that Bochy and Sabean have been canned.
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 23, 2010 11:13 PM PDT reply actions
Christ, you should have swung by Mesa and bagged me.
Haven’t seen Sedona in a while. I would have bought your gas.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Next time.
Was cold as hell today though – like 50 mph winds all day.
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 23, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was breezy down here. Which is rare.
One of the reasons I was so glad to get shut of Vegas.
It’s mostly that I’m a recreational cyclist, but I have a serious hate of wind.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 23, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw an A’s cap in the middle of the freeway while driving to Davis earlier. It lay perfectly between two lanes, seemingly untouched. I think it was mocking me.
lol
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 24, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Feel-good story in the Chronicle
Some time ago, high-school pitcher Gunnar Sandberg was nailed by a line drive off the bat of Zac Byers and ended up in a coma for three weeks. Gunnar’s recovered enough that he threw out the first pitch in Sunday’s game—to Zac.
In a nice postscript, someone commented something along the lines of “He didn’t just throw out the first pitch. He also retired the Giants in order in the fist inning.”
Only in SF would there be a fist inning
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
every inning = face palm
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I was at the game with my friend from De La Salle, who was pitching the half-inning before that happened. His friend caught the ceremonial first pitch.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 24, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
This is from the Elias Sports Bureau: this weekend is the first time since June 7-9, 1949 (vs. the Cardinals) that the Giants scored one run in a three game series.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Who among us was alive in 1949?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Shirley was the cute one, right? and Laverne was the horsey one?
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
That surprises the hell out of me. I would honestly have though the Giants had done that at least a couple times over these last few seasons.
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 24, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants Baseball
LOL!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 24, 2010 6:15 AM PDT reply actions
There's Guffaws Inside!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 24, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Chortles
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Mirth
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Breaking news: Giants sign Jeff Kent!!!
Oh, wait….it’s Clark Kent.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
KNBR: The Giants today announced the signing of
retired superhero Clark Kent, known in his playing days as “Superman.” Kent, now 56 years old and ravaged by the effects of Kryptonite pollution in the atmosphere, has been confined to a wheelchair in the Marvel Home in Smallville, Ohio. His agent, Jimmy Olsen, says that Kent will immediately begin training at an undisclosed location near the North Pole. If necessary, Kent will fly around the earth at great speed in order to return to an earlier time, when he was in better physical condition and Bill James wasn’t around to do projections.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I blame all of the McCoven who were “meh” on the A’s rivalry. This is all your fault. And Grant’s, but that’s a given.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Man, I really want to read the LOST spoiler thread, but I don’t know if I want to spoil it. I might actually watch that show one day. And while spoilers usually don’t bother me, it would be kind of fun to keep that crap a mystery.
But then again, that thread is right there. Beckoning….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
You should stay away. Though it has nothing to do with Lost. jprony is saying some really nasty things about you.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 24, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Nasty how… ?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Shit! I’ve said too much already.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 24, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Shit? Now I’m pretty sure that I don’t want to see.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants Offense Compared to Pimply Teen
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-tendegreesx052410
“The Giants’ offense, in his three previous seasons, scored with the frequency of a pimply teen.”
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Sadly, the Giants offense won’t grow out of it. Take a bunch of grizzled vets and make them grow and you just have a bunch of older, useless vets.
A more apt analogy, despite the somewhat clammy smell of the lolold line, might be an elderly ED patient from 25 years or so ago.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Gary radnich talking giants = Torture.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Two Chumps
Gary radnich talking with Aurilia giants = Torture.
Radnich gets an erection thinking up juvenile lines to drop on unsuspecting co-turd former useless vet who should have retired 8 years ago instead of 8 months ago. I’ve watched those two jack-offs twice. The first time and the last time. For a total of 79 seconds.
Mercifully I was interrupted by a barely-english speaking census worker who I was happy to inform that our residence consisted of 38 children, 18 adults and 7 smurfs—all of whom are proud members of the Lakota Sioux Nation. He just smiled a lot and nodded his head up and down.
Which demonstrated that he has twice the intellectual capacity of Brian Sabean
by E Ticket on May 24, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
whose more stupid?.. Sabean or Radnich.. i think its actually a tough call
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
by LincecumFTK on May 24, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Not mine, that’s for sure.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the post game is horrible unless its F.P. and herbs, doesn’t matter who the dolt is reading the teleprompter “hosting” the show. The giants being terrible is one thing, all the people at KNBR being forced by the giants management to be apologists makes it brutally worse. Every time gary says “Look the giants will be fine look at that NL west all the teams arent good and they will struggle just like the giants are, and the giants will be in this thing!!!!” I get a image in my head for sabean looking smug and the giants in 5th place.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 24, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
all the people at KNBR being forced by the giants management to be apologists makes it brutally worse.
That and apparently Brian Sabean is so incapacitated, he doesn’t even make an effort to be pleasant about his debauched decision-making which actually shows signs of being worse than ever as he slides into a besieged megalomaniac dissolution shadow of what was formerly a fairly passable management style.
Radnich could just plug in tapes of himself from the 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 seasons burbling the same pathetic elementary school cheers and excuses. He’s not even changed the words around. I inserted and ignited an M-80 into my Car stereo just to pretend that I killed his broadcast. Would I do it again for the reality-suspended thrill of silencing one of the great boors in San Francisco broadcast history
by E Ticket on May 24, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
Yes.
And stupid reply fail is not my fault, its the new guys. I am an old obnoxious vet full of grit, shit and gamey body odors….so there.
by E Ticket on May 24, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Radouche is more interested in keeping up with the kardachians and dancing with the stars than heis bay area sports. When he actually talks sports he summons his inner stuart scott and starts panting over kobe bryant and womens basketball and then starts to sweat realizing he has to “entertain” till bruno comes on and carrys the show.. oh wait the co-hosts do that all show already.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on May 24, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He seems like a really strange guy
He cackles, more than laughs—his voice overly rambunctious and inappropriately loud for whatever sentences seem to be sputtering from his puffy mouth.
His steady patter of inappropriate 1980s fern-bar banter on the morning radio show strikes me as someone who is so insulated from criticism, that like Sabean, he has convinced himself that any utterance of negativity directed at him is either in jest; the source is not worthy of comment, or the critic simply cannot see through the multiple layers of intellectual veracity and brilliance with which he constructs his monologues and conversations.
He’s little more than post-nasal drip.
And fuck Kobe Bryant and the Kardashians. — with Sabean’s pus infested dick.
by E Ticket on May 24, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
OT:
Good God this is the slowest day at work ever. There’s not even much McCC activity to temper it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
I have been busy since I got to my office. The morning flew by.
I am bored now so someone entertain me. DO IT!!
RIGHT NOW!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 24, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
/capers about
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 24, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant needs to make a new post
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
man, I had a delicious gyro for lunch. Got it at this place on New Montgomery.
The Giants don’t fare well against pitchers.
Shoot I want a gyro
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You’re holding out for a gyro till the end of the night. It’s gotta be lamb, and it’s gotta be good, and it’s gotta be fresh and made right. You need a gyro!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 24, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
This was ridiculous.
Well done!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 24, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Greece ruined me for gyros.
High school, Thessaloniki, 1977.
Downtown on Friday nights to the cafes and discos.
Ouzos, Amstels, and gyros.
(Which reappeared in about the same order)
It was lamb. It was fresh. It was made right.
(I’m actually salivating at the memory. Don’t step in that.)
I’ve had two in the States since I returned. Both failed.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 24, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
See, you just gotta come up Astoria way. It’s done right around here. Largest Greek community in the world outside of Greece itself (though I’m told Melbourne (Sydney? Somewhere down there) also lays claim to that title).
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 25, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The chicken parm I was supposed to make last night
It’ll give me something to do away from job apps
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Edit: Wow. That was even worse than I’d imagined. I can’t believe Edgar Renteria and Freddy Sanchez didn’t fix things right away.
SAVIORS!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 24, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
Fun Giants fact of the day
Johhny sanchez has recieved 0 runs of support in 5 of his 9 starts, thank you brian sabean.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
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