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The Wellemeyer dilemma

Alright, so I’m a sample-size fascist. We have meetings and everything. One time, I forgot to reserve the meeting hall, and everyone was all, hey, you’re such a screw-up. But I said, "Sample size! It’s pretty likely that I’ll reserve the next 15 rental halls without a problem!" and no one could complain after that.

But one can be a sample-size fascist and have an appreciation for the subtle art of scouting. When Barry Zito has ten at-bats and gets one hit, not even sample-size fascists are saying, "Wait, wait, it’s too early to tell if he’s really a .100 hitter. Sample size!" It’s pretty clear that Barry Zito isn’t much of a hitter. That’s an extreme example, but it shows that we aren’t just in love with our spreadsheets. I mean, we probably won’t even call them the next day. And if we see them at a party, we’ll be polite and engage them in small talk, but that’s about it. It isn’t love.

Which brings us to the scouting report on Todd Wellemeyer, using the traditional, and still bizarre, scouting scale of 20 to 80:

Fastball velocity: 35
Fastball movement: 40
Curveball: 35
Slider: 50
Overall control: 30
Command: 35
Poise: 30

Overall summation: Wellemeyer doesn’t really do anything well. He doesn’t throw hard, he doesn’t throw strikes, and though his slider shows some promise, he isn’t consistent with it at all. His big frame hints at untapped potential, so he might be worth a late-round flier. If he’s still there in the 40th-round, you could do wors….

Wait, this guy is in the majors already? That can’t be. I thought I was scouting a Spartanburg Methodist game. If that wasn’t a junior college game, what in the hell is wrong with that offense? What is going on here?

So while the stat aficionados might point to the high BABIP of a guy like Ricky Nolasco when he struggles, there’s no need to provide such context for Wellemeyer. He doesn’t have a pitching skill that, when compared to his peers in the majors, grades out to average. You can keep pointing out that he’s been unlucky with balls in play, but…

…wait, his BABIP is .217? He’s been lucky so far? My…uh…words fail. Welcome to Waiverville: population, Todd.

So this is an open thread to discuss the obvious: a new fifth starter. Madison Bumgarner is still quite young, and he’s only recently begun to pitch well. Kevin Pucetas will probably alternate between capable and horrid just like Wellemeyer, and the same would probably go for Joe Martinez. Eric Hacker has shown some potential, but he’d have to be put on the 40-man roster.

Martinez is the sentimental favorite, even if he’s not a sure bet to be better than Wellemeyer. But Wellemeyer gotta go. It’s been a chore to watch him this year, especially considering the other 80% of the rotation.

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I don't want to talk baseball

I want to talk Llamas.

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Llamas could throw a mean spit ball.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gaylord Perry is a llama?

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

GAYLORD PERRY LINKED TO LLAMAS!

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on May 20, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Llams say, "Muuuuuuu!"

Gringos…

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joey is way better than Mehllemeyer.

WAY BETTER.

Also, Wellemeyer’s current FIP?

6.66!!!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Christ

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anti-Christ

/fixed

Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?

by NorCalGiant on May 20, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

but, Spring Training.....

if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.

by nogooddeed on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Release him NOW

If only for comedic effect.

Monta Ellis's #1 Fan!!!

by philthiest on May 20, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEAH JOEY

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Can someone please explain the YEAH JOEY inside joke to me? (If there even is one.)

by kdl on May 20, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think people just started saying it, and it caught on. I blame jponry.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC, Jponry just started saying “YEAH JOEY” and it caught on.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have always been overly enthusiastic about Mr. Martinez, as he went to my alma mater. I used to just write YEAH JOEY every time he did well in the Minor lines and it caught on.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

That’s cute! I love Joey, too (and not just because he’s smoking hot).

by kdl on May 20, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re the second person I know who thinks Joey is hot, lol.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not so much in his uni because his hat makes his ears stick out. But in street clothes? Wow.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

And out of them amirite!?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen him in street clothes.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I first noticed it when he was getting interviewed in his street clothes on CSN after a game.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll have to search for a pic.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scouting Report:
Ladies Only!

by Giant Homer on May 20, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone I know worked at St. Francis the night he got hit, and she twittered “A very, very handsome man in a baseball uniform just came in.”

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s a handsome young man.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'd hit it

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot he was a kickass piano player.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO EAGLES!

‘Til the towers on the Heights ring to heaven’s own!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

But do you have uniforms?

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m going to go watch Joey pitch tonight. I’ll come up with a completely amateur scouting report tomorrow.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Hair: 60
Build: 55
Face: 70
Dreaminess: 90

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said I’m watching Joey pitch, not MadBum.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought many Giants fans as they watch Wellemeyer walk another batter.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay Joey!

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Martinez
Hacker
Pucetas
Bumgarner

In that order. If Hacker is the choice, there is plenty of fodder on the 40 man that can be released.

It is definitly time to start finding out if any of these guys can handle a 5th starter role. REMINDER: They don’t have to be an ace. They just have to be better than Wellemeyer. That doesn’t appear to be very difficult.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m pretty tired of watching Wellemeyer pitch.

/ball 1

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

/slider low-ball two

/fastball down the middle-HR

Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?

by NorCalGiant on May 20, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

gopher-ball down the middle

Gone!

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

IAWTC

Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.

by quincy0191 on May 20, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Martinez seems like a major-league pitcher to me. His AA FIP was 3.26. His AAA FIP is 3.73. His NL FIP is 4.86. I think he’s a better-than-average fifth starter.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

I definitely think Joey could be a more than serviceable fifth starter in the majors leagues.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

His current MLE FIP is 4.54

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neat!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every other option not named Bumgarner stinks as bad as Wellemeyer. He’s been good at ATT, and that’s where his next start is. Let him take that start, and watch Madbums next start. If it’s as good as his last start, bring him up. If it isn’t, start scanning the waiver wire.

Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!

by rxmeister on May 20, 2010 2:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Except for Joe Martinez!

by Missing Barry on May 20, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're right

he IS cute!!!

"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoever is ready at AA.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

oh come on

if those pitchers were any good, they’d be in the majors.

TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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by zenbitz on May 20, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

But you’re thinking of AAA. Real prospects pitch in AA.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Martinez, but would be okay with Pucetas or Hacker. I’d like to see Bumgarner get the time in AAA – no need to rush him right now.

Secret If-I-Were-Sabean option: Horacio Ramirez.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh good gravy, please not Horacio.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just noticed on the Fresno website he’s listed on the 7 day DL – hasn’t pitched since May 5.

Saved!

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness.

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ramirez

Career BB/9: 3.5. Career K/9: 4.2. Pass

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far in AAA

11/2 K/BB ratio! Progress!

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proven major league veteran! Established level of play!

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on May 20, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I come here for the Moooos.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Do your meetings take place in Bavarian beer halls?

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 2:50 PM PDT reply actions  

You have to know the correct yodel to get in.

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not know this about Nazis

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if I should call him “Toddy”, or “Welly”, but it is incredibly painful to watch him pitch. It’s like he fears throwing strikes a lot of the time or something!

by WTF on May 20, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Poopy

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha ‘poop’

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reginald

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t confuse fear of throwing strikes with inability to throw strikes.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I would LOVE it if the Giants signed Pedro.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner

by walkoff baltimore chop on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I agree with this suggestion

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been on this wagon for a while now but I don’t think it will happen.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

so, you’re falling off the wagon??

by DimaK on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can Pat Burrell pitch?

by kdl on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay for Joe Martinez. He IS the best option, his stats are solid, and I like GB’s. He’s ready to contribute right now. As pointed out elsewhere, his MLE FIP right now is 4.54. Last year it was 3.84. The yaer before that in AA it was 4.47, and that’s from AA, and doesn’t factor in his great GB rate! 4.86 career ML FIP isn’t terrible (4.40 xFIP). He’s not a bad option. He should be our 5th starter.

by Missing Barry on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

AA is the toughest!

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

AA : Tough :: The First Cut : Deep

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it sadden you that there are people out there who only know this song from Sheryl Crow? Or that there are still more people out there who honestly think she was covering Rod Stewart?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and not just with this song.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it sadden you that there are people out there who only know this song from Sheryl Crow?

I am one of these people.

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just banned you five times.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet you think Wild World is a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes original composition, don’t you? DON’T YOU?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop the trains!

IT’S NOT! Next thing you’ll tell me is Alien Ant Farm didn’t write “Smooth Criminal”!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, you like Cat Stevens?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like his music.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I did mean music.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then, yes.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Father and Son makes me a little weepy.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we established that men don’t cry. Especially when it comes to music.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said weep.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Cain agrees

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG TURRIST

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He probably thinks this song is about him.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was a kid

I thought the pet shop boys wrote “where the streets have no name”

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another one of her originals (I think it’s called D’yer Mak’er?) is pretty good too.

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Narf.

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snarf!

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It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol I don’t care about Led Zeppelin.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I’m just being dumb. I’ll be the first to admit I don’t know much about music.

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rod Stewart > Sheryl Crow > Cat Stevens

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait what

Rod Stewart in the Faces: awesome
Cat Stevens old stuff: pretty OK
Sheryl Crow: horrible in any context

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT ALL SHE WANTS TO DO IS HAVE SOME FUN!!

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'VE GOT A FEELING SHE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE!

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

AND IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY IT CANT BE THAT BAD!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

god that song is fucking awful

FUCKING AWFUL! There’s no beat!!!! AHHRRHGHHGHGGHG

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are many more reasons for that song’s awfulness.

Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE

by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's not even a "song"

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mrs. Goofus didn't know...

No Doubt’s “It’s My Life” was a cover
Earth Wind & Fire’s “Got To Get You Into My Life” was a cover
Annie Lennox’ “Train in Vain” was a cover

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on May 20, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know it's my life was a cover either...

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer the no doubt version TBH

that one is boooooooring.

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

BANNED

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't really like either

but if forced to choose I’d like the other one, maybe just because I heard it first

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

WRONG

You are now 1-for-2 in song assessments.

Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE

by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

lawdy

i don’t even know what to say to you

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

how about

“you are handsome and have great taste in music!”?

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure about the former

but definitely not the latter.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also a cover: 5th of Beethoven

by Giant Homer on May 20, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know that “Train in Vain” was covered.

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.

by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

+2

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

(it's not a very good cover either)

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m in this line.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Third Eye Blind also covered it.

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by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

On second thought, that’s not even a little relevant. Sorry.

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by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great….I try to start a real baseball conversation and look at the thread it spawns. Not a single baseball comment. Thanks asshats. :\

by Missing Barry on May 21, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops….

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by howtheyscored on May 21, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

MOOOOOOOOOOO

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Wellemeyer should be this year’s version of Tats. Joey should be the fifth starter.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

JOE MARTINEZ

JOE MARTINEZ

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Bold is smaller than regular?

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by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bold is overcompensating.

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by ResDog on May 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have we cashed in all our PTBNL chips?

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by iammclovin on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

Sun Chips and Doritos, respectively.

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn!

I wanted us to hold out for banana chips!

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by Josh from Hollywood on May 20, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLD hippie

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why all of the “trade some of our pitching surplus for a bat” chatter is so wrong. We have four stellar to very good starters, and little else.

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

MadBum, Posey, Neal for Fielder.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d make this trade

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLWHUT?

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by quincy0191 on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

A top 10 hitter

at a huuge discount for a year and half for 3 players who haven’t proven a thing. Yup, me too.

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe if Fielder was locked up long term but with his current contract. NOPE.

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's an obstacle

but if they made that deal they would lock him up. They’d never make the deal though, it makes too much sense.

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he a Boras client? Don’t see a long-term extension happening for him, no matter what team he gets traded to.

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you know he'd be willing to be locked up?

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by Goofus on May 20, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

because hitters love ATT park!

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

in this line

if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.

by nogooddeed on May 20, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he just signed an extension

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I guess people were just talking about it since Howard signed his

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes. Posey alone is more valuable than Fielder, methinks.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

is Fielder that bad on defense?

because his offense is better than posey by a long shot. Similar on base ability, a lot more power

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Body bias

Dude has a body made for quick productivity declines. Pass.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

David Ortiz says hi.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the bench, while DHing.

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by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don’t think that makes a difference

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except that THERES NO DH IN THE NL.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

And?

What is your point?

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think his point was all that mystifying

He is fat and will probably decline quickly. A person who does nothing but swing a bat 3 or 4 times a game isn’t going to work as hard as an actual baseball player.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playing first base isn’t that exhausting. I don’t think that David Ortiz’ stats would be much different if he played in the NL

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a reason Ortiz is a DH. He sucks at fielding. Even at 1B, that has value. That doesn’t even take into account the greater risk of injury just by playing defense (not to mention the risk of playing defense while weighing 300 pounds).

Fat guys age badly. Fielder is a fat guy. Fielder is also going to be receiving a stupid contract worth way more than the productivity he will provide. And we get the chance to pick that up for the low low price of one of the best catching prospects in baseball plus Bumgarner and others?

Like I said, I’ll pass.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough

BUT DINGERZ

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUTT DINGERZ??!!

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the positional adjustments alone, his power would have to be worth an extra 0.030 wOBA. That’s huge.

by speckops on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol posey

he’s a 1B now, didn’t you hear?

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fielder’s a better player right now for sure, but you’re talking about 6 years vs. 1.75.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus the whole value over compensation issue.

by speckops on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

medisagrees. Strongly

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Martinez

would have been a cheaper and probably more affective solution who could use the seasoning to man the 5th starter role till MadBum was ready. What a terrible signing.

by Chris Welch on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

wat

they signed Wellemeyer to a minor league deal, and he’s due to make $1M because he made the big club. there are performance incentives that he’ll never see, because he is sucking. but i have NO problem with the signing. it was a flier and it didn’t pan out. big deal.

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that's one million they could have used

for a decent bat. Then you take the 24 million owed to DeRosa and the three million owed to Huff, have Posey start the season (no reason for him to not be playing now except to avoid Super Two status) and save the 4.5 million owed to Molina and you have 32.5 million saved. Call up Joe Martinez to pitch for league minimum and Jesus Guzman to play first where offense is more important than defense anyway (seriously, if Dunn can do it Guzman can). Now with the 32.5 million you saved you could have signed Austin Kearns (plus defender, history shows good offensive skills) to a minor league deal, and signed Mike Cameron (since Sabean loves his AARP All-Stars) and you would have a better offensive team than you have now. Which, is really all that the Giants have been lacking.

by Chris Welch on May 20, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

What decent bat are you getting for a million dollars?

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by cheno on May 20, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about $1M, but a few decent 2B signed for about $2M this offseason.

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by Cookyman on May 20, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC Felipe Lopez only signed for 1 mill

or maybe it was 1.75-I don’t remember

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by Gobroks on May 20, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly Johnson, $2.35M! Because of course I knew at the time he was going to hit like this!

by Missing Barry on May 21, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one could see him hitting like this, but that was clearly a great signing at the moment it was made.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on May 21, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

Belliard signed for under $1M, and Felipe Lopez signed for $1M plus performance incentives. Both were decent options for 2B, arguably as good as Sanchez, if not better, considering his injuries. Basically we could have used the $6M we gave to Sanchez on a pitcher, and the $1M we spent on Wellemeyer on a 2B.

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by Cookyman on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how you're building the march roster at the end of may

after having the benefit of results. Obviously the offseason was lame, but I’m guessing very few people were on the Kearns bandwagon, and Cameron is a CF- that’s ROWANDS territory

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all knew

that this line up was going to be awful. I know I wasn’t confident in DeRosa’s wrist holding up either.

by Chris Welch on May 20, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL YOU

DeRosa is only making $12 million. And Austin Kearns has been pretty lousy since 2008 (0.6 WAR in ~160 games played). So you’re looking at a lineup of:

CF Rowand
SS Renteria
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
LF Cameron
RF Kearns
C Posey
1B Ishikawa

That lineup is so ugly, I can’t even begin to tell you.

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by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol @ solidarity

DeRosa makes $12 million for two years

by Chris Welch on May 20, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He makes 6 million a year for 2 years. Not 24 million.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

lolu

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i still have no problem with the Gints taking a flyer on Wellemeyer for a million bucks. It didn’t pan out, oh well. Better to have loved and lost etc.

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it wasn’t even a flier on him for a million bucks, it was a minor league deal where we got to see him for a lot less than that, decide if we think he can maybe give us some value by watching him in ST, and only then have to commit the million dollars if we think he can.

by Missing Barry on May 21, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Effective

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d almost like to not call Bumgarner up at all. The guy is still so damn raw. Let him develop just a little bit, please.

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by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he only 21 or something? Pretty young. Joey’s 27.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

20

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, it seems like he’s been 20 forever. But, yeah, his b-day is in August. YOUNG.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOLYOUNG

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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by Natto on May 20, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

This

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo!

I can’t believe I’m the first one in the thread to drop that nick.

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yes, while I’m asking annoying questions, where did the whole “that is the most awful nickname ever!” think come from.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simpsons

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. That explains why I never got it.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQW2t4SxvJ0

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by neurofarm on May 20, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, that’s good.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had forgotten about that one!

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by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Were you asking annoying questions?

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just one, about the whole “YEAH JOEY” meme.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEAH JOEY!

My obvious biases as Joey’s adoptive father and fellow Heightsman aside, I would love to see Joey get another shot. Is last a representative sample of what he’ll do in the big leagues or was the whole season thrown off by his freak injury? At this point I’d have to say it’s a little bit of both. Best way to find out: give him five or so starts in the bigs to show what he has. As for the other guys, I’d like to see Bummy get a little more time in AAA to work on his secondary pitches and I’m not convinced by Pucetas. And I don’t think Brain will be wanting to mess with the 40-man. So YEAH JOEY it is for me.

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Grant's dilemma.

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by O R They? on May 20, 2010 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

“Should I star in this movie where I play a successful, smarmy British businessman who learns a moral lesson, or should I star in this movie where I play a successful, smarmy British businessman who faces a moral dilemma?”

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by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll bet he could do a nice turn as an bad guy, given the chance. Some sort of malevolent BP exec. Maybe a member of their laughable government.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

he could

and at least he can laugh at himself about the kinds of movies he’s in. He seems like not THAT douchey of a guy

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serious Grant is serious.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clipboard hilarity:

Thanks to my active clipboard, I just almost put this on a website:

For many people, managing urologic care is embarrassing. But for many of those same people, it is absolutely critical to their health. Do the right thing for your health and schedule an appointment with JOE MARTINEZ.

That would have been interesting.

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by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds like there are a lot of people on this site who’d allow Joey to check out their urological areas.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it didn’t say, “schedule an appointment with YEAH JOEY!”

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

JOE MARTINEZ WANTS TO EXAMINE YOUR PENIS!

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by Josh from Hollywood on May 20, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of throwing the job to Martinez, praying he performs (I think he will), and then turning him into a trade piece along with, I dunno, Downs or something. There’s no point to giving Wellemeyer further starts. It’s a waste of time.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Mariners set up for their own walk up grand slam…

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

And boy howdy did Casey Kotchman just hit a looooong foul ball.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Griffey with the walk-off hit.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sleep-walk-off hit.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

"boy howdy"

great term! I never here anyone else say it. Good job.

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by Goofus on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ronnie Lott has been known to say it.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

CREEM

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

With just two fingers of the patented, oily balm.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn. I was already resisting the urge to go to Toronado.

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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a walking cliche.

Got a lot of crap for it in England. I say y’all, boy howdy, howdy, partner and so on.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, those people, sheesh…Britons criticizing anyones speech is pot-meet-kettle time.

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by satyricrash on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, mate

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not your mate, lad

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not your mate, boyo

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not your boyo, bloke

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by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m not your bloke, chap

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on May 20, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m not your chum, mucker

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on May 20, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, British accents are mostly awesome. Especially Scottish.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on May 20, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Women with British accents are hot

Especially when they talk dirty.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

but I totally agree

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

see Howie?

I told ya!

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I said that I like Euro accents.

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by howtheyscored on May 21, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are all either hot or hilarious

I could listen to that Scottish woman from Extras talk for hours.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on May 20, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Dusty

End of that Reds-Braves game was utter KA-BLOOEY!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=AqJq1t64U.MRlB96q7DW.f.4u7YF?gid=300520115

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by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds gooey.

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by Natto on May 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reds lead 9-3 in 9th...10-9 L (p-b-p link)

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=300520115&page=plays

 Top 9th: Cincinnati
- O. Infante at third
- C. Kimbrel relieved J. Venters
- J. Bruce walked
- R. Hernandez safe at first on first baseman T. Glaus’ throwing error, J. Bruce to second
- L. Nix grounded into double play shortstop to first, J. Bruce to third, R. Hernandez out at second
- D. Stubbs struck out swinging

0 runs, 0 hits, 1 errors
Cincinnati 9, Atlanta 3

  Bottom 9th: Atlanta
- T. Glaus singled to shallow right
- E. Hinske singled to shallow right, T. Glaus to second
- Y. Escobar singled to shortstop, T. Glaus to third, E. Hinske to second
- N. McLouth singled to right, T. Glaus and E. Hinske scored, Y. Escobar to third
- N. Masset relieved M. Lincoln
- D. Ross walked, N. McLouth to second
- M. Prado safe at first on third baseman M. Cairo’s fielding error, Y. Escobar scored, N. McLouth to third, D. Ross to second
- A. Rhodes relieved N. Masset
- J. Heyward struck out swinging
- F. Cordero relieved A. Rhodes
- B. Conrad hit for C. Kimbrel
- B. Conrad homered to deep left center, N. McLouth, D. Ross and M. Prado scored

7 runs, 5 hits, 1 errors
Cincinnati 9, Atlanta 10

The money lies in the RBIs
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by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a load of fail. 4 singles, a walk, an error, three runs and two pitching changes before recording an out. That is impressive.

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

RedLOLegs!

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit!

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty hilarious.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

goddamit heyward

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Useless sonuvabitch struck out! NOT A TEAM PLAYER

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by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh my god

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This place would’ve EXPLODED if that graph happened to us.

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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joey, baby

Don’t get crazy

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Joey

I’m not hurtin’ any more.

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by lame-o on May 20, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that Kevin Correia kid might finally be ready to start

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by McCoven on May 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Must we choose at all?

Hacker is 27, so shouldn’t he be ready if he’s ever going to be ready? Getting rid of Wellemeyer would open a space on the 40 man anyway.

Martinez is on the 40 man and pitched well a couple of times last year.

Pucetas is 25 and pitched a whole year in Fresno already, so why not throw him out there.

I’d prefer any of these before risking Bumgarner before he’s clearly “back to normal” and ready to pitch in the majors. And possibly until he’s over 21. I’d also suggest if all these guys seem to be fungible, try each one of them out for a start or two and a blowout appearance or two.

Finally, I didn’t see anyone suggest 30 year old Horacio Ramirez, the man Brain shrewdly robbed from Florida in exchange for C Ronny Paulino. He must be good, or Brain wouldn’t have just given Paulino away.

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually, the guy we got for Paulino was Hector Correa, who got hurt and is no longer in the org.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

aha!

That’s even shrewder!

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he's actually a reliever in Augusta now

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by Gobroks on May 20, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Tweet from Urban
MUrbanCSN #sfgiants fans, please stop thinking Pat Burrell might be an option. I know this team. Dude is NOT an option. He’s a DH at best. Book it.

Then again, Urban also said that we could “book” Freddy Sanchez hitting .300 with 10 home runs this year.

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by GiantPain on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh. Urban making more intelligent tweets than Baggs. Wouldn’t have seen that coming a few months ago.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I told you guys!

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like bad defense ever stopped the Giants previously

Hey, Mychael! Eugenio is waving frantically in your direction.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

SPARKPLUG

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBF, I bet Eugenio in LF is 100x better than Burrell in LF.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Burrell will be balanced out by Jermaine Dye in RF!

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by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vrroooommmmmm

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder

How many Giants’ fans are actually serious about Pat Burrell? This just seems like a reaction to Bagg’s tweet which was about interest from the front office.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serious like dating?

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t stop thinking about Pat Burrell!

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I don’t know if you heard me counting but I just did 1,000 of those.”

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dreamy

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

he must have done it

on beer and hot dogs, just like Babe Ruth!

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was in Philly when that banner was out.

Barry was unimpressed, judging by his homer of the facing of the third deck.

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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOUR PUSSY IS JEALOUS! YOUR PUSSY IS JEALOUS!

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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take him.

Cheap Veteran Grit.
Keep him away from NL rivals.
Dingerability.

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burrell vs Eugene Velez?

You're F*cking Out!

by Kenny F*cking Powers on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burrell -- .536 SLG at AT&T

I think

The money lies in the RBIs
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by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone who says “book it” is a first-rate douche. Book it.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 20, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially in regard to predicting sports..
“Lebron to Golden State…BOOK ITTTT!”

by Giant Homer on May 20, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Lord excepted, natch.

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by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Book 'em > Book it

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by Josh from Hollywood on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which reminds me...

A producer at Paramount was a fan of me and my old writing partner, so he brought us in to work on a project he was very excited about. He was kind of a big shot, so we were pumped… until we heard the idea: It was called BOOK ’EM, and was about a library detective who stumbles onto a major crime while trying to track down overdue books. It was being developed as a starring vehicle for Rob Schneider.

Moral of the story: Don’t be a screenwriter.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could NOT work in hollywood

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me either

That is why I turned them down.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true, but I’m giving him the exemption nonetheless.

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by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Period.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just no on Bumgarner

seriously. No. Stop it. JUST NO, OK?!

iMO YEAH JOEY or Hacker should get the call

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

hankschulman Giants considering Hacker for Wellemeyer’s spot; no on Burrell. http://bit.ly/13jdYw?

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by GiantPain on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

YES

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s no big deal. Giving up on Wellemeyer shows that they are willing to make a change if they need to. So, either Hacker will succeed and we live happily ever after, or he sucks and we get JOEY.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

win

"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just seems bizarre that they’d do that since they’ll have to drop someone from the 40-man.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

not if it's Wellemeyer

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eugenio

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

OHPLEASEOHGODYESTHATWOULDBEFUCKINGAMAZINGIREALLYHOPETHEYDROPVELEZPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

couldn't say it better myself

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if they drop Wellemeyer…

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they’re really down on someone. Wellemeyer, Velez, or even Medders.

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by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I’d be ok with any of those.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, looking over the 40-man roster, there’s a lot of dead wood. Velez! Hinshaw! Wellemeyer! Brett Pill!

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Francisco Peguero! WTF was that about?

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they thought he'd get taken in the Rule V draft

a la Everth Cabrera? IDK

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by Gobroks on May 20, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know why people are worried about making room for Hacker

I’d like to think there’s a world in which Pill could be used.

Also, there’s some unused space on the 25 man that could be opened for a player that could, you know, appear in games and stuff.

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems unlikely they're going to drop Pill so soon.

Then again, Jon Coutlangus.

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Velez

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

All Aboard

the Jeff Fassero train woot woot

Garlic fries 08

by operation carrot on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Where’s the first stop?

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"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

golf course?

retirement home?

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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody but Wellemeyer

Todd Slumpshoulder can go to the pen. It would be fun to see another kind of Hacker on the big club!

by out machine on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I almost forgot

IT’S TIMMY DAY!

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"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

From Baggs

CF Rowand
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
1B Huff
C Molina
SS Uribe
LF Bowker
P Lincecum
RF Torres

Molina hitting 5th? Bowker hitting 7th? Lincecum hitting 8th? WTF?

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by neurofarm on May 20, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL FRED

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be cool. Get crazy, Boch!

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes!

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohboy.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa

Is Tony LaRussa now our manager?

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy’s been sniffing glue again. The results aren’t so bad.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Z

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Nate

Torres in RF. I was just saying to my dad today that I could see them using Torres in RF. Go me, I guess.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nostradamus

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except I would never have guessed that Bochy would go all LaRussa.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!

What the hell happened to a consistent lineup?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy actually going with the random lineup generator

seriously, .862 OPS in the 9th slot?

Kevin Pucetas: well, he's not Todd Wellemeyer!

by Sammy Danger on May 20, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

/gets the least # of at bats.

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I never got that either.

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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see the reasoning behind it but not with your hottest hitter.

It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant

by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get it at all, though I’m not Tony fuckin’ LaRussa. Like, are runs less valuable in the first inning than in the third?

:prepares for headache:

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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

they actually might be

more runs are scored in the first than in any other inning.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on May 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a credible stat? That’s interesting.

by Uncle Russel on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s an incredible stat!

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by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

unless i'm misremembering

pretty sure that came from The Book, but again, I’m relying on my own faulty memory.

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

…so wouldn’t you want the OBP guys on for the power guys as early (and therefore as often in the game) as possible?

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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

dunno about any of that, but i suspect the thinking is something like, we’re more likely to score runs in the 1st than any other inning, so let’s attempt to increase run production in other innings at the expense of the first inning

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

man

that really sounds nonsensical, and I already know what i mean!

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you score more runs in the first BECAUSE you have the lineup built SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PURPOSE.

All batting the pitcher eighth does is remove one of the OBP guys from one cycle of power hitters.

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by troymccluresf on May 20, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m not sure that that supposition is true, or at least that it’s the only factor. maybe there are others — pitchers are shaky, or something, for one.

but yes, it could be seen as an attempt to redistribute the scoring among the innings (OMG SOCIALISM)

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI PANELS

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s called Jack Daniels

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by zodiac_chiller on May 20, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only way that Boch could have Torres ever hit in front of Rowand.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, lol at your signature.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s time to remove your leadoff hitter from that spot if you have to do this.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than in the 8th spot.

by Missing Barry on May 21, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nate needs a day or two off

He’s been struggling lately.

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by KTJ on May 20, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy has officially lost his mind. Or he’s a mad genius. I’ll go with the former.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

whoa really?

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually quite like this.

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will be different

But I’m all for changing up the lineup.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

why?

I mean, I guess it’s not that bad, but WTF hitting the pitcher 8th? I never understood it, and it just looks to me like Bochy wants Torres leading off but refuses to move Rowand out of that spot. So instead he gives one of the best hitters of this year the worst spot in the lineup

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t most linear weights-y systems show that hitting the pitcher 8th instead of 9th leads to slightly better run production?

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No clue

that’s what I was wondering, whether it makes a difference. Seems weird to me, but I can kinda see the benefit..sorta.

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, since the top of the order usually has your best hitters, you don’t want your worst hitter (the pitcher) batting right in front of them. In this lineup, however, one of our best hitters is batting 9th and one of our worst is leading off, so it kind of defeats the purpose.

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by neurofarm on May 20, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
Yes, since the top of the order usually has your best hitters

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

Tim was almost outhitting Geno last time I checked.

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

touche.

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by oldjacket on May 20, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard that. Fangraphs had a piece on it a while back. But when I went back to read it they had edited the piece to say that was wrong.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/optimizing-yesterdays-lineups/

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by giantsfansince1981 on May 20, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Batting the pitcher 8th leads to lineups more likely to have been constructed by Tony LaRussa.

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by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

moves your pitcher further away from your good hitters and sticks them more into the area where there are no rallies to kill.

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by oldjacket on May 20, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kinda like it

Aside from the 8/9 wackiness, I think it’s a good lineup. One game seems pretty short for the Sandoval-at-cleanup experiment, though.

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You were expecting consistent lineups out of Bochy?!?

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Baggs was.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh good! Le’ts move Mole UP in the lineup!

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leaving aside whether he’s actually recovered, don’t you think he’s a good option for the #2 slot?

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do

In the long-term, that is. He’s still essentially rehabbing/having his spring training at the major league level. Give him some ABs down in the order for a few days until his bat comes around.

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially when he had a good game

as long as it’s not molina I won’t complain. Unless it’s torres or something

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Compliment the guy in the last post and dog him in this one? BIPOLAR

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by cheno on May 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a good hitter

not a cleanup hitter.

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

good hitter *this year

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by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He went 2-4 with a double and the team’s only RBI. Clearly that experiment failed.

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by neurofarm on May 20, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, according to La Russa’s philosophy, he’ll kinda be the cleanup hitter after the first time through the lineup, since he’s four places after the pitcher.

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by groug on May 20, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bochy has finally lost it.

But I’m all in favor of absurdity. Having Torres at 9th mutates Sandoval into a clean up hitter for the last 3/4ths of his ABs. It also allows him to remain in position to receive a high number of plate appearances. Nate’s been struggling, and I think that Bowker has a great swing for this ball park. I’ve officially talked myself into liking it.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF, did LaRussa make this lineup?

by nataku on May 20, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this lineup. I’m not sure who I’d rather stick in the ninth slot than Torres, but other than that, I’m okay with it.

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by oldjacket on May 20, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone should be batting 9th, it’s Aaron Rowand, “leadoff hitter”.

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by capnk on May 20, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of the options . . .

. . . though Hacker is 27, in pitching years he’s quite a bit younger; he lost virtually three seasons to injuries (2004 and 2006; he pitched 10 games in 2005). Some reports say he’s now better than before the repairs. Despite the popularity of Joe Martinez here, I don’t see anything in his career to date that would suggest that he’s anything but, at very best, average, and probably not that; his best ERA season was in Connecticut, which I seem to remember was an offense black hole. Bumgarner, I feel—in common with many, it seems—is in need of definitely establishing that he is in (or back in) form as a pitcher ready to embark on his major-league career.

I believe that the thinking is that no one wants to yo-yo Bumgarner; when he comes up, it should be for good, because he’s shown he’s definitely ready, not on a “well, let’s see” basis with going back down as an option.

(Somewhat OT, but while we’re on pitchers, why is Denny Bautista on the roster? Are there no better relievers at AAA? In almost 194 major-league innings, he has a career ERA of 6.13, and no indications I can see to suggest that he’s improved in any way of late.)

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by owlcroft on May 20, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Bautista’s always had a dynamite fastball. One of these years, he may figure out where it’s going.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

but I think he should be doing this in Fresno, with two of these “starters” replacing him and Wellemeyer.

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s up to me, guys like Bautista and Henry Sosa get tag-team spots in the Fresno rotation, throwing 3 or 4 innings at a time. They need reps.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

As people have pointed out in this very thread, Martinez’s MLE FIPs over the last few years have been more than adequate for a fifth starter.

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

SSS/scouting eyes

Bautista looked phenomenal in spring training and was lights out in Fresno. I guess the brain trust thought he had “figured it out”

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think many of us expect great things from Martinez

He just seems like a decent guy, gets appreciation (and sympathy) for returning from the awful ball to the face, and is probably no worse than the other alternatives.

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by EliminateMe on May 20, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus he can hit/field.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

And attractive people are better and more attractive

by Giant Homer on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Send Meh’dders packing too

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by zodiac_chiller on May 20, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I wish I knew . . .

. . . WTF is wrong with Medders. The guy has a pretty well established (235 IP, 3.61 ERA) career as a decent, better-than-average-if-not-by-lots pitcher, well suited for the role he has. Then, this year, out of nowhere and all of a sudden, Bang. I can’t help wondering if there isn’t something physical we don’t know about (or possibly that he hasn’t mentioned yet). Sure, a .411 BABIP isn’t helping anything, but it seems to go beyond that. (Though now that I look, his BB rate is lower than career, and his TB/H, while higher, is not strikingly so.) I just wonder . . .

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by owlcroft on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

this year? out of nowhere?

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by zodiac_chiller on May 20, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My buddy’s a DBags fan and he warned me about Medders the day the Giants signed him.

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least THEY got one of the dynamic duo: Howry

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by zodiac_chiller on May 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was good last year.

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by cheno on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

you can pretty much tell by watching him pitch

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by greatgiantfan on May 20, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

his peripherals did not match up with his performance last season

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by Speedforthewin on May 20, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Medders’ BABIP is ridiculously high because he’s serving up stuff that’s easy to get a lot of the bat on. That’s why he has a 12.5% HR/FB, and an inflated LD%, and a pithy 0.63 GO/AO.

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by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This dilemma is much more serious

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
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by Tim LinCyYoung on May 20, 2010 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Soon we’ll be allowed to marry turtles!

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did John Bowker throw out the first pitch at that game?

by kdl on May 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

It will go extinct.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

and while we’re at it, let’s call up Hoppy

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by delorean on May 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always liked Dino’s version of Volare. Sign Jerry Lewis too.

by GiantMalcontent on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was trying to figure out whta this link contained by looking at the comments replying to it. That strategy failed miserably.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOT JOKING LINEUP

CF Rowand
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
1B Huff
C Molina
SS Uribe
LF Bowker
P Lincecum
RF Torres

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by GiantPain on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

whoa fuck

way behind. ignore this

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by GiantPain on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS JUST IN

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

We know already

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Some baseball research seems to favor the pitcher batting eighth:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/is-larussa-right-to-bat-his-pitcher-in-the-eight-slot/

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/pitcher_batting_8th/

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by GiantPain on May 20, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t bring research or science into this discussion.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No science or research, but the Cardinals go to the playoffs a lot, amirite? :)

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by kbsofaraway08 on May 20, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This makes me miss jamey wright.

dood was terrible but in a i get groundballs and pitch good games againts key opponents kind of way

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by operation carrot on May 20, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

i get groundballs and pitch good games againts key opponents

For about a month.

Unfortunately, the baseball season is like six times that long.

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by groug on May 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, he was just terrible.

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by jponry on May 20, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeremy Affeldt

The Giants are already paying him like a starter and he’s got the ability. Runzler could fill his spot in the late innings role.

by Fresburg on May 20, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

With Timmy batting eighth today, this wouldn’t surprise me.

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by 49er16 on May 20, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he has started for almost four years.

by nataku on May 20, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

And was never very good at it.

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by cornball on May 20, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Runzler’s control makes me nervous.

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by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t have to be good at something to do the job.

e.g. Brian Sabean.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT:

Does locking a thread prevent recs? The LOLlama thread is at 109 recs.

by speckops on May 20, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

no

that happened with a post on AN the other day.

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by natteringnabob on May 20, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was remembering that post which is why I questioned if it actually could. That’s too bad.

by speckops on May 20, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

shift-A

I think a Sosa for Medders move makes sense right now. Oh, and I agree with Joey being the 5th starter replacement.

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by Speedforthewin on May 20, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Hooray for Timmy day! I’m gonna go watch BP.

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by jhiat00 on May 20, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

So Bobby Brackens came to my school today.

I know you are all really jealous.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah.

I had never heard of him before today, but all the girls screamed when he came in, and most people seemed to know who he was.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alhambra. But he went to a few this week.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

is he a bieber?

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by greatgiantfan on May 20, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

wat

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he bieb?

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by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I dont think he plays basketball.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

True Lies on AMC.

That movie is so underrated.

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by Alex_Lewis on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

good video game too

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by operation carrot on May 20, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Naw, it’s just rated. Not over or under.

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by positiveuphemism on May 20, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Bowker

Per Schulman and Baggs, Nate is unavailable because of a sore right shoulder. MRI shows a bruise, received diving for a ball two weeks ago.

Also, Rent and DeRosa took early BP off coaches. Both ok, but Bochy wants DeRosa to play some minor league games (1 or 2).

by kdl on May 20, 2010 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Nate injury makes sense

He’s been off the past few weeks it seemed.

by giants92388 on May 20, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s almost a relief that there’s some reason for it. I hope he’s okay. His stint on the DL last year did not turn out well.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

FP mentioned something about this last night.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mentioned some such something.

 

Is swinging like he has tired shourlders

The money lies in the RBIs
— Jeff Kent
by hokysmksbw on May 19, 2010 8:44 PM PDT

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/5/19/1479826/threadinator-ii-wellemeyer-day#37948303

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

/cookie

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on May 20, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m glad that they got right on top of an injury that Nate received TWO FUCKING WEEKS AGO.

Can we please fire everyone on this team except for a few of the players?

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL stats

The Braves entered the bottom of the ninth in today’s game down 6 runs, but they scored 7 to win it. Francisco Cordero gave up one of those runs, and he got the loss.

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, he did give up a walk-off grand slam with a three-run lead. i’d say he earned that L.

Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.

"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just weird how it works out. Only gets charged with 1 of the 7 runs

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was the first batter he faced. Why would he get charged with the others?

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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s be honest here: Baseball’s scoring rules make no sense.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on May 20, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

WINZ ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT.

Dan Runzler knows, becuase he has as many as Matt Cain!

by kdl on May 20, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Random: LOL Kemp

I’m on my old desktop for the first time since last summer or so, and I found this gif hidden among my files:

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages

by mymclife on May 20, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Shades of Ibanez.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that Ibanez one, especially the part where he is so far away from the ball that he’s not even in the frame anymore.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Making Rihanna proud

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG

by Useful_Idiot on May 20, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

but I don’t like how my boy was posing out of the box like that

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed that, too.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC, that was the hit that Pablo thought was gone, but wasn’t so he had to book it so he’d actually reach second.

If not, it was certainly around that time.

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages

by mymclife on May 20, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on May 20, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Today's Lineup

Ridiculous.

Supporting the Giants, Niners, Sharks, Warriors, Golden Bears and Zags since 1987

by objesguy on May 20, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Ridiculously good-looking.

Cooler than a Polar Bear's toenails.

by Thoroughbred on May 20, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not as good-looking as if Joey were in the lineup.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recently watched that again

I don’t remember why I used to think that movie was funny…normally I love McDonald but wow. It did NOT hold up well

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Norm McDonald is awesome, but his mainstream movies and TV shows didn’t turn out well.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on May 20, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

O/T

I’m reading this article called 15 Ways to Predict Divorce. It’s pretty interesting, but this is kind of crazy:

If you have a daughter, you’re nearly 5 percent more likely to divorce than if you have a son.
This figure multiplies with the numbers of daughters or sons. “We think it happens because fathers get more invested in family life when they have boys,” says Stephanie Coontz, author of Marriage, a History and director of research for the Council on Contemporary Families.

This did not apply in my family, because my dad totally likes me more than my brother.

by kdl on May 20, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

My parents like my sister better, too.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think my parents like me more than they like my sister. They definitely did growing up, at least.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 20, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you marry any of my three sisters or my mom, you will end up divorced.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...

by greatgiantfan on May 20, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you’ve ever spent more than fifteen minutes with a 13 year old girl, you’ll understand why you are more likely to divorce – to get away from the damn kid.

by GiantMalcontent on May 20, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL..more invested.

Naw, 1 woman = 1 crazy. 2 woman = crazy squared plus dealing with puberty. It’s simple math.

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on May 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

science!

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on May 20, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it was my sister's fault, I knew it all along.

I should phone her now

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s because WIMMINZ IZ CRAZEH STEFANEH

Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.

by shanghaijim on May 20, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I were to draw a connection, which would probably be a foolish thing to do, I would think that parents tend to be more protective of little girls, which would lead to more parenting conflicts.

"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff

by howtheyscored on May 20, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not enough misogyny. Try again.

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on May 20, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Astros rough up Jimenez.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s as likely as the Giant’s scoring 10 runs in one game.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 20, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, so I’m a sample-size fascist. We have meetings and everything. One time, I forgot to reserve the meeting hall, and everyone was all, hey, you’re such a screw-up.

- Adolf Hitler,
November 9th, 1923

Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.

"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Grant is Hitler?

uh-oh

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

CTRL + F and....

Since no one has posted it yet

I want to go back in the time machine into an alternate dimension where Brain resigns Penny.

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t that fall through due to Penny’s lack of interest more than the Giants’?

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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Penny wanted to play for the Cardinals. Childhood team and all that, if I remember right.

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.

by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Penny say that that story wasn’t totally accurate, and that he wanted to stay but they didn’t offer enough? Something like that?

by kdl on May 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have a time machine and you’re going to use it on … Brad Penny?

Me, after I fix up the 2007 draft, I’m going to stop in 1993 to see if there’s something to be done. Then Scott Spiezio’s father gets it.

by Evan on May 20, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I could use it to stop Hitler, but what fun would that be?

Back on the market.

by positiveuphemism on May 20, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put some super glue in Cruz’ glove in 2003 and Candy Maldonado’s an 1987, go back to 2000 and remind Estes that you still have to call timeout to leave the base (even if you’re injured!), tell the third-base coach to send Willie home in 1962, insist that the A’s have to use their third and fourth starters after the quake in 1989, do something about that 18-inning 1-0 loss (and the 12-inning 2-1 loss the day before) to Arizona in 2001, tell Fred Merkle to touch second in 1908, point out that the division winner should start at home in 1997….

Hey, this is fun!

Oh, wait, no it’s not.

Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.

"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jimenez is going to throw a no-hitter again. Dammit.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL SECOND INNING

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.

by Solidarity on May 20, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its the Astros

look at that team and tell me who is going to get a hit.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lee will hit a HR

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team

by bondslegend on May 20, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s going to be another six-walk no-hitter, which isn’t in the same class as Sanchez’s no-hitter.

by Hamed on May 20, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Minnesota pitcher Jeff Manship

The pickup-line possibilities.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on May 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

S.S. Manship

now departing….ALL ABOARD!!

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on May 20, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not without a hat, sailor!

Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.

"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 20, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

MOOOOOO!

er

¡muuuuuuu!

Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.

by shanghaijim on May 20, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

YEAH JOEY!!!

also, llamas.

My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.

by goGSW24 on May 20, 2010 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Note that since his day off Panda is 7 / 20

that’s a .350 BA

slump kaput

The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent

by hokysmksbw on May 20, 2010 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

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