Alex Gordon Sent to Triple-A
Clearly the Royals are not very high on him at the moment---I wonder what it would take to get him.
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It would require a competent GM
Seriously though, Gordon would be a great fit for the Giants.
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by Gobroks on May 2, 2010 6:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Royals are dumb
I’d hope we try to make a play for him.
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by Gobroks on May 2, 2010 7:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
New strategy:
only trade with teams with an ever dumber GM.
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by theghostofjasonellison on May 2, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
this...
sadly there aren’t that many players I want in the Royals and Astros organizations…
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by Smoke on the Water on May 2, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’l take one of this with Gorden and see what happens with with 4 months of steady play time.
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I fail to seen why he is a perfect fit though. Hes a 3B
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Cuz Sandoval could slide to 1B and improve the defense
Plus I’m not sold on Gillaspie as our 3B of the future.
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by Gobroks on May 2, 2010 7:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Huff Much Better Then Gordon For This Year Which Is All We Should Be Thinking About At This Point In This Season
Going after Alex Gordon now is a very dumb idea.
by giantsrainman on May 2, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If they wouldn't have to give up much value for him...
I don’t see why not.
He’s better than Uribe, and is probably about as good as Huff THIS YEAR.
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 2, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That Is Crazy Talk.
The only infielder we have that I would agree there might be an argument that Gorden is better then this year is Travis Ishikawa and I am not sold that even this argument would hold water for 2010.
by giantsrainman on May 2, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to agree with the rainman here. The guy’s a bust, and he’s NOT better than either Huff or Uribe. If you want to acquire him because of his past potential that’s fine, but you send him to the minors and work with him, you don’t bring him in here and pretend his lousy play has been an illusion.
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+1
I’d trade Craig Whitaker for him – maybe. A couple of underachieving prospects for each other might not be too bad. But to think he’d be an improvement over Huff this year is, imho, kinda crazy.
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“he’s NOT better than either Huff or Uribe”
Based on what? 30 ABs in 2010?
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 3, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
How about any AB’s ever at any point in their careers?
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by stealth snail on May 3, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Even if Huff is better than Gordon in 2010 (which I’m not convinced he is) we could keep Gordon in AAA for this year. Why is it a dumb idea to buy low on a good prospect?
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by Gobroks on May 2, 2010 11:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How Low Is Low?
Sure I would trade Eugenio Velez, John Bowker, or an non 40 man roster marginal prospect for him but I doubt that the Royals would agree to such a trade. I would not trade any of our existing real prospects for him.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I agree with you in that we shouldn’t trade anyone of value-Just try and buy low to take a flier on him.
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Yeah, this would be the idea. We only have Huff for the rest of the year, and getting Gordon would keep us from overspending on a veteran corner infielder in the offseason.
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The problem with this is that you can’t guarantee that Gordon will suddenly find himself. They might still be looking for a veteran first baseman even with Gordon in the organization. I would hate to move Panda to first base anyway, unless the third baseman is really an elite guy. It is such an asset to have a third baseman that can hit like he can, while first basemen who can hit are much easier to find. (except for OUR GM of course)
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I see that. But it would, at least, allow us to negotiate with free agents from a position of greater strength, instead of desperation. It’s never a bad idea to just stockpile talent, especially if it’s possible to get it at a discount.
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Seriously though…Velez + B level Prospect for Gordon? Is Dayton Moore that incompetent?
He'd probably take Velez & Wendell Fairley
Cuz he loves him some tools.
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by Gobroks on May 2, 2010 8:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So much for being the future George Brett.
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He still might
But, yeah, he has definitely lost some luster.
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Still might? He’s 26 years old and has essentially been a replacement level player for the last couple years, barely over replacement for his 4 year career. George Brett was already a great player at 26 with multiple top 3 MVP finishes, just on the verge of hitting his HOF stride (which he would at 27). If Alex Gordon can resurrect himself into just a legitimate starting major leaguer at this point I’m sure he’ll be happy.
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But he’s still an above average player. It’s sort of like the Adrian Beltre situation. He never hit 50 home runs again, so lots of people unfairly labeled him a bust, even though he was still a good player.
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Is he really? Fangraphs has his career value as 4.9 WAR. Last year he was worth 0.4 WAR. And most of his value seems to come out of positional adjustment. Except for 2008 he’s posted below average OPS+ every year and negative value as a Batter on Fangraphs. Except for 2007 he’s posted negative value as a fielder on fangraphs. I’m not the most sophisticated stats reader here, but looking at his 2009 it sure looks like replacement level production to me from all aspects of the game.
Really KC is probably just be sending him down to try to work out his issues in a less pressure packed environment, the way the Giants had to with Matt Williams (several times). I know KC’s not competing this year, but it still might help Gordon clear his mind a little by trying to fix things in Omaha.
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He averaged a 2.2 WAR over his first two seasons (with enough athletic ability to swipe 10-15 bags). I’m sort of tossing out last year as an injury outlier, but maybe that is over simplistic.
For what it’s worth, CHONE projected him to have roughly the same season as he did in 2008.
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I would assume that at some point his ability is going to kick in and he’ll be a productive player. But you never know, the possibility exists that a series of injuries and just stalled development for whatever reason will send him to the bust bin. As for this year, he missed most of ST with a broken thumb, he’s coming off a pretty bad and injury riddled year — I certainly wouldn’t assume he’d more productive offensively than Huff or more productive defensively than Sandoval.
Certainly you’re right that if he’s low cost, low risk and can be stashed at AAA while he’s trying to get healthy and work out the kinks it would be a very worthwhile acquisition. Seems like from a PR standpoint, the Royals would be hard pressed to do such a thing though.
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Because we already have a 3B hitting better than our best prospect in AAA. Why take ABs away from someone actually earning them?
Who said he’d be taking PT away from anyone this year?
Gordon’s capable of playing both corner infield positions. Should Huff falter, he makes for a good insurance option- and when Huff leaves for free agency, Gordon gives us a valid option at both corners. Not only that, but he’s still got some serious potential. He might be one of those guys that would really benefit from a change of scenery.
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Well,
considering Gordon has an upside and track record far superior to either of them…move either one of them for Gordon. It doesn’t matter.
I cannot see any logical reason why we wouldn’t acquire Alex Gordon because of Ryan Rohlinger or Brett Pill.
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one ticket please.
Beside Rick Rhol’s future MLB ticket, if he has one, is to be a utily INF guy.
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Those guys suck.
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Both Younger Then Gordon
And Gordon is already a proven MLB flop while they are not.
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
1. Gordon had a decent 2008 season. He could do that again. He could potentially do better.
2. Rohlinger is older than Gordon! And Pill sucks
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by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB Flop?
He hasn’t become the second George Brett, but I wouldn’t call him a “flop.”
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“Proven” is obviously hyperbole (not to mention factually inaccurate, as I haven’t seen the terms of this particular science experiment).
After the first almost 750 PA in the majors, Matt Williams was a .198/.239/.404 hitter with more Ks than hits and walks combined (181).
At the age of 27 Nelson Cruz was a career .230/.280/.385 hitter in about 500 PA over 3 seasons.
Yes, I think it’s entirely possible that Alex Gordon could well be heading down the road towards flopdom (especially given his pre-draft hype), but it’s more than a little silly to say that anything is “proven.”
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and I feel like Gordon is the perfect guy to bloom late, given the combo of: injuries, being rushed to the majors and then treated oddly by an anxious FO, and original high draft pedigree.
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I’d do it. Can probably get him for almost nothing. Dayton Moore is pretty dumb.
Gordon in only 12 games would already be tied for 3rd in walks on our team, and in like 3 games would probably lead the team.
unless he's injured
they’re pretty stupid to give up on him on so few plate appearances, especially when they’re going nowhere, and when most of his problems can be traced to his his low babip.
The Royals have proven to be pretty stupid for a long long time.
by Hobbes2d on May 3, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d love the Giants to try something like this. If he played to his career averages, the uptick in defense bump probably makes him comparable to Huff, and he has some real upside.
But it’s just a dumb fantasy. Gordon has the attributes the Giants brass undervalues most: patience and youth. He also strikes out a lot. Those things got Fred Lewis deported.
I’m going to take this as an opportunity to think “Well, at least we aren’t the Royals.” Gordon has a .342 OBP while his BABIP is .227. Hahahaha. Ha.
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harsh
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but at this point true
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harsh but fair, i think
as you said above, stockpile talent on the cheap. if he does end up putting it all together, all the better!
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Gordon was optioned
The Royals are not at risk of losing him, so why would they dump him for next to nothing? Do they need to free up a 40-man roster spot?
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The Royals are making Gordon a 1B/LF
LOL Dayton Moore
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Dude takes walks
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Too Bad He Can No Longer Hit And Never Was Much Of A MLB Hitter
by giantsrainman on May 3, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He “can no longer hit”? Really? I’m interested to know what makes you say that.
The kid only had 189 PA in 2009, and he was sent down this year despite a .227 BABIP with a LD% of 26.1.
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WRONG
Dude’s hovered between a 94 and 104 wOBA+ for the past 4 seasons Nothing special but still a decent-average MLB hitter. He’s no freaking Chris Getz.
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