Post-game thread: Giants slug four hits, still lose to the Padres
I refuse to believe that the Padres are in the Giants' head. I don't think that Aaron Rowand or Nate Schierholtz are going up to the plate thinking, "Crikey, that's Clayton Richard. Clayton Richard! I just hope I make contact!"
I refuse to believe the Padres pitchers are this good. Richard, Latos, Gregerson, Adams, LeBlanc...there's a lot of talent there, but the five-year reunion of the 2010 Padres will probably feature a few waiver-wire drifters. This isn't a roster filled with perennial All-Stars, at least not right now.
I refuse to believe that the Giants are this wretched offensively. This is not a historically awful offense -- just a really, really, really bad one. A team that averages 1.29 runs per game, which is what the Giants have done in seven games against the Padres, would be the worst hitting team of all time. The Giants are just the worst hitting team of right now.
It's just an improbable series of flukes. A bunch of quirky, crappy flukes. David Eckstein hitting a walk-off home run out of Petco National Park. Matt Cain getting crushed on 0-2 counts. Each team throwing a one-hitter, with the Padres winning both. It's not a fluke the Padres are winning the season series -- the Padres have played better, for the most part -- but it's absolutely flukey that the Giants haven't won a single game despite a season ERA of 3.00 against them. It's an amazing sequence of events that just happen to screw the Giants at every turn.
But that doesn't mean that I don't want to put my fist through the plate-glass window right next to me. That doesn't mean that I don't want to drive my car into a monastery before setting the place on fire.
The only saving grace from tonight's game is that the Padres scored an insurance in the seventh, which made the wasted leadoff double barely sting at all. That was a nice touch.
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I blame Grant
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
by I'm_a_Man on May 17, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I blame howtheyscored.
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I blame Brian Sabean.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame Matt Cain.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on May 17, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame Eugenio Velez.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Lewis is teh problem
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
HEY WHAT’S THIS ABOUT NOW?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
kenshin did it
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 18, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
FUCK THIS SHIT THAT'S FUCK
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:18 PM PDT reply actions
There's always tomorrow...
…what are the chances of losing 8 in a row to the Pads?
by JeffWondersWhy on May 17, 2010 10:19 PM PDT reply actions
The funny thing is (to me) that I have a good feeling about tomorrow. Shrug.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
but you post disgusting pictures
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I post all kinds of things.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
VERSATILITY DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He should move away from the window.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants Baseball: Shoot me in the Head, Now Please.
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
by LincecumFTK on May 17, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Next time I’ll pick one up, and we can share it.
by GrooveGiant on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll drink two glasses at once in honor of you
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Crown Royal?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
by 49er16 on May 17, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
boooo
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
SHITFUCKSHITFUCKSHITFUCKIHATELOSING
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
So fucking infuriating.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Sorry guys, but the rally toaster wont kick into effect until tomorrow.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
Is it a modern - now - a - go - go high tech offensive marvel?
Y’know, like Eugenio?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No. It has flowers and stuff. But that is pretty awesome stupid.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
I’m pretty sure that isn’t a real product.
sadly
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
lol
that’s what I thought. One of their fake gift boxes.
Except I would love a USB toaster
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I bought this for my uncle. It’s an empty box. I put a rubber chicken in it.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I thought we should have used a late inning defensive first baseman
that might have saved the game.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
awe man
take it back, you don’t mean it
An instant buzz is on the rise, the whiskey's for a big surprise.
No, I really do. I just came back from a night of drinking, and I knew I was going to come home to a well pitched Cain game with a Giants loss.
I’m not even drunk. I can’t stomach this shit.
nah nah man! you don’t mean it, it’s the whiskey talking!
An instant buzz is on the rise, the whiskey's for a big surprise.
as god is my witness I am so glad I watched true blood dvds instead of this game
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
As it was nearing 9:30 pm, I was telling myself that I should switch to
The Big Bang Theory. Sadly… I made the wrong choice :-(
Great observation...
… both sides pitching a one-hitter but the Padres winning both. That really says it all—about the Giants offense, but also about the flukiness of this seven-game streak against the Padres.
Is it just me?
Or would Ishikawa have been a vastly superior choice as a PH in the 9th?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:23 PM PDT reply actions
No PH would have been vastly superior to both.
Also, as Grant said, vroooooooooooooooooom.
DFA Brian Sabean
If you must pinch-hit for Downs, I guess you could argue that Velez could play second in the bottom of the inning, and it’s not like a cobweb-ridden Ishikawa is any great shakes. Still, it was a little maddening to watch.
by Grant Brisbee on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
How would Freddy Sanchez have fared as a pinch hitter?
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 10:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
/hits single to raise BA to 1.000
//breaks wrist on swing
///Sabes signs him to 5 yr deal because he batted 1.000 for 2010
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
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by Gobroks on May 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously. What possible fucking reason can that piece of shit have for not dying to be back on a major league field in a position to help his team win an important game? I’m not much for the gamer bullshit but Sanchez better strap it the fuck on and be on the next plane to San Diego. His soft prima donna ass Is the reason we all had to watch Eugenio Velez shit away any last hope of a win tonight.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 10:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It is obviously not his fault they lost but the way he basically refused to show up is hard to comprehend.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 11:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
he’s seriously injured and the brass have been laying major pressure on him to get back to make them look better.
How come other teams don’t have this problem with signing so many mentally weak wussies
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
How is taking 5 at bats in OKC any easier on his shoulder than taking one in the bigs?
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 11:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
haven't you heard?
AAA is beer league softball
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Not every team has non-Gamers like Hanley Ramirez
Marlins SS Hanley Ramirez benched for not hustling
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ao6q3SI7s6JgzhDeqUihJkQ8R9MF?slug=ap-marlins-ramirezbenched
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Seriously?
Guys shit on people who play while injured and now we’re shitting on Freddy Sanchez for wanting to be sure he’s ready before he plays?
Pick a standard.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
by GiantPain on May 17, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s not not playing! He took 5 ABs today.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 11:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we are perfectly comfortable with double standards here. It’s a monkey see monkey do thing with the Lunatic Fringe and Sabean.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on May 18, 2010 8:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Let me help you comprehend it
He didn’t want to get more injured by coming back before he was ready.
You’re welcome.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Still don’t get it…
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 11:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Freddy no want to be bad at baseball
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Vanity
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
by capn on May 17, 2010 11:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the expectation of Freddy Sanchez as savior is pretty funny
The man will not make any difference at all.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a savior but a marginal upgrade. Since he is being paid to play baseball, I would like to see that happen.
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
He’s depth fodder at it’s most standard. He’ll push Downs to the bench where he belongs, Velez off the roster (?) where he belongs, and Uribe that much closer to being a utility player where he belongs. The production isn’t going to offer a significant boost, but his return won’t be without benefit.
That is, unless his shoulder is still flapping around in there and he’s terrible. Then, it will be completely without benefit.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Not only will it be without benefit, it will come at great cost. Just to really poke our eyes out, Hudson is hitting .289/.369/.383 at $5MM.
Ty Wiggington is hitting .315/.380/.661 for $3.5MM
and Marco Scutaro is hitting .269/.363/.346 for $5.5MM
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Um no.
If he is worried about the shoulder then he would be sitting period. He obviously feels he’s not ready because he hasn’t seen enough pitches yet. I was unhappy with his reaction. But if he comes up, goes 0-12 cause he’s not ready, he’s not really helping is he.
When he gets up here, we will know quickly if he’s ok. Can he drive the ball? Can he play everyday. Those will be the question. If both are yes, then the wait will be worth it. If no, then Sabean threw more money down the rathole.
If no, then Sabean threw more money down the rathole.
This is pretty much what happened.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Man I hope you are wrong
Heck I suspect that YOU hope your wrong. The thing that is frustrating about Sanchez is he can play when healthy. In fact, he’s the type of catalyst they desperately need.
A healthy Sanchez would be a big upgrade in the two hole. Then you can move Torres to leadoff – I I know he’s probably not going to last, but hope springs eternal and I like his plate approach right now and Rowand to 5 behind Huff. That leaves this as a possible lineup:
Torres
Sanchez
Pablo
Huff
Rowand
Uribe
Molina
Nate
Rowand’s OBP sucks. He is not walking at all. Heck he isn’t even taking pitches. Having siad that, he is driving the ball better than in the past. Showing a little more power. So move him down in the 5 hole. Molina at 7 where he belongs. Huff should be the 4. Period.
But its the “when healthy” part. on Sanchez. And I’m not sure that is going to happen.
That lineup is never going to happen
Bochy appears willing to move his younger players around the lineup without a second though. The vets? Not so much. Rowand will never leave the leadoff spot as long as Bochy seems to feel like Aaron hits better there because of “magical” reasons. Similarly, Molina will be in the cleanup spot for as long as he is on the team. He will DEFINITELY not be hitting 7th as you suggest.
I may seem exceptionally down on Sanchez. The main reason for that is because I never wanted him to be a Giant. He is just another in a long list of Giants whose OBP consists mainly of their batting average. In other words, he is a hacker. The man has a total of 135 walks over his 8 year career.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The man has a total of 135 walks over his 8 year career.
In 2004 alone, Barry Bonds has 120 intentional walks. Good god. And he had more than 135 total walks in 6 individual seasons.
I miss that guy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
he got two in 107 PA with the giants last year.
lololol
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
gah
I hate this argument. OBP is OBP is OBP is OBP. It doesn’t matter if it’s from average or from taking walks, as long as its sustainable. I agree that walks are more sustainable than a high BA, but OBPs being equal, the high avg. is more valuable.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
You answered your own issue.
It is less sustainable. If balls aren’t falling, then he’s not getting on base.
Rickey Henderson was a valuable player when he was hitting .236.
Sanchez wasn’t valuable for the Giants last year when he hit .284.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Sanchez
career OBP: .334
Projected OBP (various sources) .319-.331
The guy is a stunningly average hitter (wRC+ 99). If he’s healthy, he has some marginal value.
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$6MM per is overpaying for average by about any measure, isn’t it?
And average is best case scenario.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I’m pretty sure Bochy is the one who used Velez to pinch hit in that situation.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Fox is a Giants fan

Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
That looks fun.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LIKE A FOX!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Shit
Did it make it out?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think these foxes do this sort of thing all the time.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Hunting rodents by sound.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets face it
the Giants are the Padres bitch. This is beyond pathetic. Of course, in a lot of ways I think its deserved. I mean, what can you say about an organization that keeps running the absolutely useless Eugenio Velez out there. Jesus H. Christ. Borchard. Anyone but Velez. i damn near chocked when I saw they brought him back. Unflippingreal.
The Giants' offense was better when
Renteria was hitting .800
What time is the game tomorrow and should I avoid it?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
thankfully, American Idol and Dancing with the Stars will be monopolizing the DVR for a good chunk of the game.
I won’t be able to watch past 8!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
This is one of those times I wished I watched more TV so I could avoid the game.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
you should get a wife!
:-P
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
by DrStankus on May 17, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s illegal in California.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Wow
oldjacket’s quote in your sig is so true.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL wife.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
thus the smiley. :)
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
LOL SHARKS
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
GO SHARKS, finally back at school where i'll be with EVERY blackhawk fan
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
WHOOHOOO!
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 18, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
When was that?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Today They Giants Hit More Balls Hard Then The Padres Did
However today The Giants pitchers made the citical mistakes at the critical times. Matt Cain walked 5 and groved an 0-2 pitch. To win a pitching dual one just can’t make these kinds of mistakes. Today Matt Cain (and the bullpen that followed) pitched like they the don’t know how to win. They pitched just bad enough to lose and just not good enough to win. they made too many mistakes.
You Can't Be Serious
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I get it, you always make these kinds of posts. Sweet.
by MLWhiteSF on May 17, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
…too depressed to make jokes out of typos
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all the pitching fault
Because it was a pitcher’s duel. Epic. By virtue of this being a pitcher’s duel the pitchers did their job.
But no, you have to pick the people that did 90% of their jobs correctly as the goat instead of the people that did 20% of their job. Congratulations. You are special.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The Giants Hitters Didn't Make Many Mistakes - The Hit Hard The Pitches That Should Be Hit Hard
They showed good strike zone discipline. The vast majority of mistakes that were made today were made by the Giants pitchers.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
listen to yourself. Striking out with a man on 2nd base is not making a mistake. Hitting pop fly and not advancing the runners with man on 1st and 2nd is not making a mistake.
None of those are mistakes. The giants hitters cannot be blame unless they strike out 27 times, but then again, that’s just the opposing pitchers making their pitches.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Sometimes The Pitcher Makes Great Pitches
Striking out or popping up when against a great pitch is not a mistake.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm done with you
you are completely unreasonable. Why did I even bother debating with you?
Oh, and Guillermo Mota. Also, Eugenio Velez has options.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Pitchers have been making great pitches against us for six years now.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
learn to win, Giants pitchers. It’s always your fault when you give 130% but 140% is asked of you.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The Giants Pitchers Today Failed To Give 100% Mentally
Today it was the Giants pitchers that made the mental mistakes not the Giants hitters.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
games when the pitchers en toto give up three runs should be wins. Regardless of mistakes
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Can't stop staring/laughing
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
LOL
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by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"The thing is, it happened."
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by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We Are Talking About Today's Game.
Today the mistakes were made by the pitchers and they were lucky to only give up 3 runs. The offense didn’t make many mistakes and they were unlucky to only score one run. Today the pitching staff lost the game by making too many mistakes.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo didn’t field a ball hit right to him. Mistake. Now go think up some other nonsense.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Not An Error And At Worst Failure To Make A Great Play
The walk and and groved pitch that followed were the mistakes that cost the run.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The ball was a foot from him and should be an error. Regardless of the scorer’s decision it was a mistake. But good job on thinking up more nonsense.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you so much, Grant.
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I say, from now on
No one responds to any of GRMs posts, ever.
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
But Then Where Will We Get Our Daily Serving of Abusive Capitalization?
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Karl Marx?
Oh, abusive capitalization.
never mind
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Stalin was really the past master at that anyway.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldman Sachs
Duh.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on May 18, 2010 9:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Owned.
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Just Providing A Balanced Prospective.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Balanced like this

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by jctGamer on May 17, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
First rule of dealing with trolls: do not respond to trolls.
Second rule of dealing with trolls: do not respond to trolls.
by speckops on May 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
I’m glad folks are getting the idea.
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by natteringnabob on May 18, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Needed To Counterbalance You All At MSNBC.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Skip Bayless.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point. GRM is more like Skip Bayless than anybody else I know.
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how come Skip’s brother seems like an OK guy, but Skip is such a major ’bag
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Who's his brother?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Tom Lennon
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/has really tight face
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Is that Skip Bayless? That guy is such a moron.
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Whoa, mirror image posts. I like the way you think :)
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
And yes. I hate him. You can’t even pay me to watch ESPN2 in the morning because of this guy
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
They should give him a show with the guy from Sportsnation. And then never air the episodes.
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As much as Cowherd drives me crazy with his “YAY WINNERZ” mentality, I’m ok with him on Sportsnation because you have Beadle to balance him out. She doesn’t know a lot about baseball (sadly) but she ALWAYS calls him on his bullshit
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
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I caught Beadle on Bill Simmons’ podcast. She seems like she is worthy of a better gig.
LOL that her eating that hotdog became a gif that we’ve seen here. She had a good sense of humor about it.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I heard her with Simmons as well. She’s pretty good. I definitely don’t watch SportsNation because how Cowherd.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
You should give it a try. They really don’t take him too seriously on that show. And it’s better than 98% of what’s offered on all the ESPN channels combined (which isn’t a great recommendation, i know)
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
Cowherd is awful.
and I’d only watch something on ESPN if I got good reports from multiple trusted sources, except for games not available elsewhere.
But if she gets another show, I’d check that out.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Good news: she does have another show, it’s called “Winner’s Bracket”
Bad news: her sidekick for this one is Marcellus Wiley :(
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve watched SportsNation. I find myself saying “Shut up, Cowterd” every 30 seconds.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Very true
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I like cowherd, i think he’s sarcastic and funny. I also think he has some interesting analogies here and there. I like cowherd more than beadle.
by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on May 18, 2010 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions
She probably is but I do like the nation.
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
By contrast, there is just nothing you can do to fix that combination of stupid and loud.
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I personally love Sports Shouting.
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by raisingcain on May 17, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember when he appeared weekly on Rick Barry’s radio show on KNBR a few years back. Man, it gave me a headache the one time I listened to the whole thing.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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hot blowhard on blowhard action
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Barry used to say to people whose opinions he disagreed with about the NBA that they didn’t have a right to their opinion because they never played in the NBA. I wanted to call him on that say he never played in MLB, NFL or NHL so he has no right to talk about that nor does he have a right to talk about movies because he’s not an actor.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Fitz and Brooks is ten times better than Rick and Rod
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by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s fair.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
giantsrainman
I like your posts. Never go away
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by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And the dumbest comment ever posted on McCovey Chronicles goes too...
Giantsrainman! Congratulations, come up and get your award. With your obnoxiousness and stubbornness you’ve managed to top the stupidity of even the likes of Mike Fox and 22gigantes.
Seriously though, you can’t honestly believe this. A pitcher’s job is ultimately to give up as few runs as possible. The offense’s job is to score as many runs as possible. Although he labored through his start and didn’t look all that good, Cain only gave up 2 runs over 6 innings, a very good start by any measure. The offense was horrible and scored only 1 run. Blaming Cain for the loss would be like blaming a Quarterback for a loss after he threw for 4 touchdowns, but his team’s defense gave up 42 points
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on May 17, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain Didn't Throw 4 Touchdowns
He walked 5 a groved an 0-2 and 2-2 pitch for the equivalent of 5 fumbles that he was lucky his team recoverd and two interceptions. The offense did not
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The Offense Didn't Give Up 42 Points
The hit the ball harder then the Padres did. They showed good strike zone discipline. Yes, great pitchers go them out but it took great pitchers to get them out.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Most Sports The Team That Wins Is Usually The Team That Makes The Fewest Mistakes.
Neither offense (or defense) made many mistakes. The Giants pitchers made more mistakes then the Padres pitchers did and that is why the Giants lost.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Again not true.
There were actually a lot of location mistakes that Richard threw that resulted in belt high down the middle strikes. These were either fouled off or watched go down the middle for a strike.
The Giants offense could not capitalize off these mistakes.
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It’s all about capitalizing. The Giants had opportunities and did not capitalize. The Padres, meanwhile, put a mistake fastball over the center field wall, and then they scored in their FIRST at-bat with runners in scoring position. And those two runs were enough to beat the Giants, because the Giants offense didn’t show up today.
This game wasn’t giving up a mistake three run homer, or other big plays. And it wasn’t death by a thousand pinpricks, either. Two minor mistakes should not be enough to beat a major league ballclub.
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Not The Game I Watched
These pitches were either on the outside corner or at the letters which are very good locations form 92+ MPH fastballs.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? The Padres pitchers have been throwing the Giants great picthes for 7 straight games?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I Am Talking Specificly About Today's Game
Nowhere did I say this was the case for all or even any of the previous 6 loses to the Padres. In a few it may have been but it was not obvious to me that that was the case like today’s game was.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they hit it much harder.
Except that one that Gonzales hit.
But it doesn’t matter who hit harder, it’s who hit with runners on. The other run that scored of Cain was a groundball that made it through the infield. But it’s ok cause the Giants hit the ball harder.
The offense was terrible. Hitting hard means shit if you cannot get runners on base, into scoring position and knock them in.
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So It Is Skill Not Luck That Decides Where A Ball Is Hit?
It was skill that the Padres hard hit ground ball that scored the second run found a hole and it was bad hitting that so many of the balls the Giants hit didn’t find a hole?
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The Pitch That Lead To This Hit Was A Fat Pitch Down The Middle Just Like The Gonzo Bomb.
These two pitches were Cain’s two interceptions.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me put this in a language you can understand…
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Two Mistakes That Result In Two Runs Is Nothing Compared To The Thirteen Runners That The Padres Stranded On Base. The Padres Pitcher Wasn't Perfect Either; The Giants Offense Just Failed To Deliver.
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The Walks That Put Most Of These Runners On Base Were Fumbles By The Giants Pitchers
The Giants pitchers were just lucky that they were able to recover these fumbles.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And Only One Of Those Walks Actually Hurt The Giants, And Cain Was Probably Pitching Around Gonzales In That At-Bat.
Can you even keep all of your excuses straight at this point?
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It Was Luck That More Of These Walks Didn't Hurt The Giants
You just can’t expect to get away with issuing that many free passes.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish the Giants would take walks.
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We have a team 8.1 BB% so far
Still bad, but much much better than our 6.5 from last year
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
It was very sad to see both Molina and Huff get inning leading walks
then not score on it.
DAMN YOU MATT CAIN!
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WHY DID HE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE MISTAKES?!
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My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
The Money Lies In The RBIs
Probably a robbery.
Bit of skullduggery.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 18, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah check out that grooved pitch a bit above the knees on the outside part of the plate on a 2-2 count

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Man, cannot believe Cain would groove that pitch.
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We should just get this out of the way . . .
CAIN 4 FIELDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, For A Breaking Pitch That Is Groved
It caught too much plate. It needed to either be down and in or just catch the back door with 2 strikes. Where is was was an easy squaring up when a hitter is in protect mode.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
But a that is not what you said this was.
The Pitch That Lead To This Hit Was A Fat Pitch Down The Middle Just Like The Gonzo Bomb.
These two pitches were Cain’s two interceptions.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:29 PM PDT
This was a good pitch in a good location for the situation. It was where it was wanted and Headley was able to pull it, and again as you said, where luck put it was where the defense was not.
You cannot even admit you are wrong when proven so.
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I Don't See A Strike That Misses The Black As Being A Good Location
Especially when the hitter is in protect mood. It ain’t as bad as the one hit out by Gonzo but it is clearly a mistake and just caught too much of the strike zone.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a change up on a low and outside part of the plate.
If he had not swung it would have been a K looking. You do not know they were trying to go out of the strike zone.
For the situation it seemed exactly what they wanted to do.
Look at the other pitches, 1st pitch low and away BREAKING PITCH for a called strike. The next 4 pitches were high and inside. They had set up to go to the EXACT PLACE as pitch 1. And that’s where it ended up.
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Change Ups Are Menty To Be Chased Out Of The Zone With 2 Strikes
Catching the zone and missing the black is a mistake.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
This is not true for all change ups.
Change ups are meant to fool a hitters timing and produce a swing through.
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Once again
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Starting In The Zone and Ending Out Of The Zone Is How This Happens
When you catch too much of the zone with this pitch like this one did it is not missed often. I the batter is fooled by the speed it is just fouled off but when he isn’
t it is hit hard like this one was.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
TALKIN BOUT THE CHINA GROVE
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He Hit a Shot That Would Of Taken A Great Play To Turn Into An Out
Not making a great play is not making a mistake.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
But the Giants hit the ball harder, so it’s Cain’s fault.
Make sense now?
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See, the Giants hit the ball hard and got unlucky, because luck determines where a ball is hit, not skill. And the Giants hit the ball hard, but the Padres hit the ball hard and were lucky, so they scored more runs and it was Cain’s fault.
The logic is ironclad!
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Therefore
Cain is unlucky and it’s his fault that he is unlucky. And he will never learn to win until he stops being unlucky.
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The Two Critical Balls Hit Hard Off Cain Were Mistakes
Most of the balls the Giants squared up were not of of mistake pitches but rather off of good pitches.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Most of the balls the Giants squared up were not of of mistake pitches but rather off of good pitches.
I agree, they were missing his location mistakes. They were fouling back any hangers Richard actually left up. They put some contact on his good pitches but couldn’t hit any of his mistakes.
This is a problem with the offense. It is not Matt Cain’s fault that the Giants hitters could not connect with the mistakes.
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Not All Pitches That Are Up Are In A Bad Location.
At the belt and at the hands is a good location for a fastball. Above the belt and at the letters is also a good location for a fastball. In the middle of the plate and at the the thigh like the bomb given up to Gonzo is the worst location possible for a fastball especially on an 0-2 count. I don’t recall the Giants getting any of these.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You noticed I never argued the one to Gonzo was not a mistake.
And actually the Giants did get a few of those. They just did not hit them. It’s much easier to remember the ones that have not landed yet.
But this asinine argument aside, it’s still ludicrous to blame this loss on Matt Cain when he gives up only 2 ER over 6 IP.
Our offense fucking sucks. They can hit the ball hard all they want, and still be shitty. And they are.
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Today The Offense Didn't Stink They Were Just Unlucky
It is true that Matt Cain didn’t stink either but he was not unlucky in fact he was luckiy as he made too many mistakes. Yes he got away with most but he just couldn’t get away with all of them. the Padres pitchers simply made fewer mistakes and thus they out pitched Matt Cain and company.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
He made only one mistake he did not get away with!
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Oh fuck off the Matt Cain made too many mistakes by pitching well and giving up two fucking runs bullshit.
Score some motherfucking runs.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's Review Gameday
The second pitch Richard threw in the game was a 90 MPH fastball right down the middle to Aaron Rowand. Rowand grounded out to David Eckstein.
In the top of the second with two on and two out, Schierholtz fouled off a 93 MPH heater down the middle and struck out on the next pitch.
In the third, Rowand took a middle away fastball on a 2-0 count and hit it to the third baseman. In the next at-bat, Torres took the next pitch and flew out.
In the 4th inning, Schierholtz took a first pitch curveball down the middle and flew out to right field, ending the inning and stranding two.
In the fifth, Andres Torres had a full count and got a changeup down the middle that he was a fly out to left field.
In the 6th, Bengie hit a belt high fastball to the right fielder.
In the 8th, John Bowker swung at two pitches down the middle. He missed the first one, and fouled off the second. He struck out looking on the next pitch.
In the 9th, Juan Uribe fouled off a Heath Bell challenge fastball in a 2-0 count.
Yup, Cain really got out-pitched today by the Padres staff and their five walks.
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You Are Being Disingenuous
It was bad luck that Rowand’s shot to in the first found Eckstein’s glove. Likewise with Rowand’s shot in the third that found Headley’s glove.
Surprise first pitch curves like the one to Schierholtz in the 4th are taken more often then not by just about all hitters including the elite hitters. This is the time to throw a get it in breaking ball especially when their are runners one and you haven’t throw many first pitch curves before.
Both of Torres’ fly outs in the 3rd and 5th would have been homeruns in most ballparks including AT&T during a day game.
The pitches you mention to Molina and Uribe were above the belt and thus not location mistakes.
The only ones you got right were the two to Bowker and I agree that he sucks.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Disingenuous? You said that in “the game you watched,” Richard didn’t make a lot of mistakes to location.
I pointed out nine or ten pitches that were very hittable that the Giants did not turn into hits. The Schierholtz curve was not a “take,” by the way. I’m saying he took the pitch and turned it into an out. You can blame luck if you want, but 0 for 10 on fat pitches does not reflect well on a lineup. No matter which way you try to paint it (at this point, I’m guessing it’s the “by numbers” variety), the Giants hitters had multiple opportunities and failed to get the job done.
A rose is a rose is a rose, and an out is an out is an out. Don’t shove shit under my nose and call it chocolate cake.
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Yes Disingenuous - Only The Two To Bowker Were As You Claimed
The others were either hit hard as was the case by the two to Rowand and the two to Torres but found gloves, or good pitches like the ones to Schierholtz, Molina, and Uribe.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Go look up the Pitch f/x data. It’s all on Gameday. I calls ’em like I sees ’em, and not just how I choose to see them.
Believe whatever you want to believe, but the assertion that the Giants got BABIP’d into a 4-hitter, a scant 4 days after hacking their way through a 1-hitter, is utter bullshit.
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You Are Just Dead Wrong About Rowand And Torres
Did you even watch the game? Again both of Torres’s flyouts would have been homeruns in Saturday’s or Sunday’s day games at AT&T. Both of Rowand’s ground outs to 2B and 3B were hard hit atta boys.
Look again at the pitch fx data for the pitches you mentioned to Molina and Uribe. The were above the belt and thus well placed faseballs that most hitters would find hard to say on top of. Again the get it in first pitch curve to Schierholtz would have been taken by most hittters as they just would not be looking for a first pitch curveball in this circumstance. Their approach would be to look for what they want where they want it on the first pitch just as Schierholtz did. This means they would be looking for a fastball below the belt and middle in and taking anything else just as Schierholtz did..
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Schierholtz swung at the pitch, dingus. One pitch out. Pow, two runners left on base.
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It Was That Said He Took It
I Just went by what you said. With this correction on your part that Makes you right about all of 2 of the 8 ABs you referenced.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions
As for the Uribe and Molina at-bats, if the pitches were above the belt, you can’t tell by Gameday. They are at the belt or below.
And once again… Regardless of how well Rowand and Torres hit the ball, “almost” only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. It doesn’t matter if a fly out is caught on the infield grass or on the warning track if it doesn’t advance baserunners. It’s still an out.
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So You Think Location Is A Hitting Skill?
But hard contact is not?
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Again, your logic is specious. Putting the bat on the ball is hard, but no player in the major leagues is incapable of doing so. And hitting the ball hard did not pay off for the Giants yesterday. Things like going with the location, pull hitting versus going up the middle, protecting with two strikes, plate discipline, and situational hitting are all skills that go along with bat control.
Gonzales got a ball over the plate and put it in the seats. That’s an unforgivable mistake by Matt Cain in your book. The Giants get similar pitches and make outs, but still “hit the ball hard, and that’s okay.” It’s a pretty ridiculous double standard.
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Good Comeback
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You have satisfied his need to attention
for the last few hours :(
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Well
It kind of mystifies me that you keep acting like Cain got lit up. He gave up two earned in six innings.
I’m just going to blame this on you being absolutely spoiled by our starting pitching, and move on, since it’s pretty apparent you’re being
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Once Again
Attention Whore. Skip Bayless. We went over this.
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hahahaha
each walk is equivalent to fumble, and each run is equivalent to an interception… pretty rough system you have going.
And my point was that ultimately Cain only gave up 2 runs, while the offense did jackshit. Maybe my football analogy wasn’t the best, but my point was this: A pitcher’s job is to give up as few runs as possible, much like a QB’s job is to lead the offense to scoring as many points as possible. Today, Cain didn’t look all very good, but he grinded through and his line was very good: 6 innings, 2 runs. He didn’t pitch particularly well, but he only gave up a couple runs (the second one largely a result of Pablo’s fielding miscue, which also prevented Cain from having the opportunity to pitch one more inning,) giving the Giants an excellent chance to win. Unfortunately, the offense came up short, and they should be at blame
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by lincecuminyourface on May 17, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It Was In Response To A Football Analogy Made Above By Another Poster.
His statement that the Giants offense today played so bad that it was like a football defense that gives up 42 points was far more of an unreasonable exaggeration.
by giantsrainman on May 17, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Alrigth well lets try this instead
The 49ers gave up a touchdown and a field goal. They didn’t score. They lost 10-0. Who do you blame – the offense or the defense?
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The Giants Scored On Solid Hitting Of Non Mistakes
All three runs the Padres scored are the direct result of location mistakes by Matt Cain for the first two and Runzler and Romo for the third.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Still at this attention whore business
I see
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by E Ticket on May 18, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Proven wrong but still spouting it.
You are like a broken clock that somehow manages to not even be right twice a day.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/5/17/1476587/post-game-thread-giants-slug-four#37770891
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It's his usual schtick
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I quit watching this game
after Romo got the last out in the 7th. This game caused a combination of depression and apathy.
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by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa.
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by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What are my three favorite things in the morning?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Where? for at least 2 of the 3
/not a fan of waffles
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by GrooveGiant on May 17, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to a happy place
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on May 17, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
No. How is it?
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on May 17, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Really good....you must drink it neat or on the rocks

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Are there other ways to drink it? Mixed with coke? That’s an abomination.
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it's a sipping whiskey
unless you want to be a Nancy about it.
An instant buzz is on the rise, the whiskey's for a big surprise.
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by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I pour it on waffles?
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on May 17, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty sure it’s the lost waffle ingredient
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by greatgiantfan on May 17, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I usually like a splash of water with Irish. Helps open it up.
Bourbon I like straighter than…straighter than Tom Lennon
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These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on May 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Lt. Dangle is gay, but Tom Lennon isn’t. That’s why I was confused.
by Grant Brisbee on May 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
he's had fun with the gay angle
he voices a gay character in the Archer episode I am watching.
And as “Little Gary” on Comedy Death Ray Radio he calls Tom Lennon gay.
Fun fact: He’s married to Millie from Bull Durham
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by Grant Brisbee on May 17, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
this cannot be correct
I am not Tom Lennon’s cousin
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Nah
Im his nephew
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
you are too young. No one under 21 ever drinks alcohol.
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Nah, the drinking age is like 13 in Canada. Beer is free, too.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
unless you are on the Canadian Women’s hockey team…
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Matt Cain
has been pitching with his head up his ass. There is no excuse for his 0-2 pitch to Gonzales. None. And its the second game in a row he’s screwed up in 0-2 counts. Unless and until Cain pulls his head out of his ass, he will be a dissapointment.
Cain pulls his head out of his ass, he will be a dissapointment
What? Please tell me this is an over-reaction to a bad loss.
He gave up 2 runs…
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Cuz that's where teh shitty pitching is!
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He used to do this. He’s turned into a shitty hitting pitcher.
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by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
FP said that on the postgame
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by capn on May 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
2 runs in 6 innings is of course not bad. But he didn’t have great control, and he barely had anything but his fastball. It’s either a credit to his fastball or an indictment of the Padres lineup that they must have been sitting fastball but still swung and missed or hit popups.
by non sequitur on May 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I was replying more to this point
he will be a dissapointment
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I find lexluth’s misspelling of “dissapointment” to be disappointing.
by non sequitur on May 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He had an appointment to speak disrespectfully about someone.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Cain
but he is making a ton of mental mistakes right now. And he had to stop it. Look, the Giants are about as psyched out against the Pads as a team can be. Cain HAD to come up big today. Giving up an 0-2 HR in the first to Gonzales on a fastball right down the middle was the ballgame. I know it isn’t fair. But the fact is, he needed to step up, shut them down early and hope this bizarre stranglehold could end. He didn’t do the job.
No. The offense needed to step up and score more than one friggin’ run. One run is not enough.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
This is kinda a “no shit” situation here.
If you’re pitching against Roy Halladay or Zack Grienke, you try to grind out two runs and outduel the guy.
Against Clayton Richard, scoring 1 run is pretty inexcusable.
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Comments like this make me want Cain to be traded to the Yankees and win 20 games six years in a row.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much this. I feel bad for the guy, especially when people who blame him for “not knowing how to win” bag on him.
As I said I love the guy
but he needs to overcome the mental breakdowns. When he does, he’ll be the stud we all know he can be. I’m not ragging on the guy. I just want to see him stop shooting himself in the foot.
But giving up two runs in six innings is not shooting yourself in the foot. Failing to score after getting two on with nobody out is shooting yourself in the foot.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
you are an idiot
I wish there was a better way of point that out.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
if only lexluth could get over his mental breakdowns.
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I’m not defending the comment but lol, that was kinda harsh.
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a pretty dumb comment. And not his first of the sort.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t disagree with this statement so instead I’m just going to point out that I love your avatar
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by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And you miss the point
I’m not saying Cain is not a good pitcher. He is. I’m waiting, for him, however, to become a GREAT pitcher. Because I believe he has that kind of ability. But he’s cost himself big time the least couple times out getting beat on 0-2 pitches.
He had to know going into that game that the Giants weren’t going to do much offensively. And giving up the early HR just added to the Pads momentum.
I never said Cain “lost the game”. 2 in 6 is fine. What I did say, if you’d bother to look at it, is that he is making key mental mistakes that are hurting him. Throwing a fastball anywhere near the strike zone 0-2 to the one guy on the Pads that can truly hurt you is a mental mistake. I know he didn’t try to groove the pitch. But he should have been bouncing a curve ball or change up.
BTW – Molina shares some blame for the pitch selection., unless Cain shook him off. I am not one that thinks he “calls a great game.”
Pretty dumb comment
Which was – state it and argue it.
Again, look at what I’m saying. The guy is a very good pitcher. I am not one that talks about “learning how to win”. But I don’t think he pitches to his potential. Which I think is considerable. I think he has the potential to be a No. 1 starter. One of the big differences between Cain and Lincecum, imo, is mental toughness. Lincecum makes the big pitch when he has to damn near every time. He rarely gets hurt by the big guys in the lineup (Ramirez shot versus Florida being the exception that proves the rule). Is it unfair to compare anyone to TIm, probably. But if Cain is to take the next step, I think its the mental side. He certainly has all the physical tools.
So have away. But don’t suggest I made the “can’t win” comment or that I said he cost them the game. I didn’t. My “disappointment” line was admittedly harsh. If that is the “dumb comment” so be it. That came after being pissed off at yet another loss to the Pads.
So you’re telling me Matt learned how to win last year after succumbing to mental breakdowns in ’07 and ’08?
I didn't and haven't used the "learn to win" stuff
He pitched well enough to win last nite. No question. I’m just talking about what I think he needs to do to go from being an APBA “B” to an APBA “A”
That’s a reference to the best baseball board game ever. Wonder if it is still out there.
I think what he really needs to do to grow as a pitcher right now has little to do with mental toughness and has more to do with continuing to improve his fastball control. The times he gets in the most trouble are the times the fastball sails high on him. it makes that pitch easier to hit, and it opens up the rest of his pitches to the hitters, too.
Really: control, control, control.
But also really: using this game as an opportunity to be critical of Cain in any way is a little silly. We really need to get as far away from the “Cain could be sooooo great” trap and start simply appreciating how well he actually does pitch for us.
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by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Control vs. mental toughness.
You may be right. I may be right. Who knows.
This I do know: you ARE right that we should (and I do) appreciate Cain. I just see someone that can be dominating. Maybe I’m wrong on that. But I don’t think so. So I get impatient waiting for hm to get to the next level.
Well, I just kind of think that Matt Cain gets caught in a weird “potential” double standard a lot of the time. We’re the same fanbase that sat here and watched the “potential” of Estes, right? The “potential” of Jerome Williams? Jesse Foppert? Kurt Ainsworth? Noah Lowry? The same fanbase that is still sitting on the potential of Jonathan Sanchez (who, by the by, is two years older than Cain)? Damian Moss (LOL, sorry….)? Ryan Jensen? Joe Nathan (LOL, sorry…)? More recently, Alderson? Barnes? Valdez?
The list of guys with Cain’s talent that we’ve seen walk in and out of this club in the last ten years alone is ridiculous! So one guy, finally, one guy, Matt Cain, actually taps that potential pretty hard, and consistently, and we still trap ourselves wondering what could be even though we know damn well that 9 times out of 10 it never even gets this good to begin with?
Sometimes I think it has to do with Lincecum spoiling us. Lincecum is the best pitcher in baseball, and Matt Cain is still just a #2 talent… oh, that bum Cain needs to figure it out.
Sometimes I think it has to do with other things. Sometimes I just don’t know.
What I do know is that after watching this team run through the Esteses, Williamses, Fopperts, Ainsworths, Lowrys, Sanchezes, Mosses, Jensens, Nathans, Aldersons, Valdezes, and soon to be Bumgarners… I’m damn sure going to appreciate every last pitch that I get to see out of Matt Cain. And I refuse to complain about it.
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by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
25 years old with a career ERA+ of 126 who averages 200+ innings pitched every year.
FUCK THAT GUY! HE IS A HEADCASE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
This puts it into nice perspective:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/3/2/1334109/community-projection-matt-cain
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by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Who's that bozo?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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I didn't say that he was a headcase
and you know it. What I said is that for Cain to become a No. 1 starter, he needs to reduce what i perceive as mental mistakes. That is different then calling one a headcase.
We all know he gets no support. I haven’t suggested his w-l record is a problem. What I’ve said is that reducing the mistakes he does make will make him better. I don’t think his mistakes are mechanical etc. I think they tend to be losing concentration at times. And given that he gets no support, he can’t afford many mistakes. The lack of support isn’t his “fault” of course. It’s just his reality.
As I’ve admitted, I used stronger language then I should have cause I was pissed at yet another loss to the Pads. So blast me for that.
I think Cain can be nearly as good as Lincecum. He has the body and the mechanics to be a 225 inning a year guy for 15 years. He can be a consistent 15 game winner. (Take that however you wish, put every sabermetric and replace the wins, I use that line simply to point out how good he can be, cause its an example (archaic as you all think it may be) of consistency. i’d have used consistent 20 game winner but their ain’t no such thing anymore.
He has the body and the mechanics to be a 225 inning a year guy for 15 years
He is already doing this.
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I was about to say..
He has 217 2/3 IP in the last two years. And if he gets 34 starts this year, he’s on pace for 218 IP.
Matt Cain – He’s already there.
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LOL
So I get impatient waiting for him to get to the next level.
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by Giant among Angels on May 18, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
"He didn't do the job"
If you are referring to the same mysterious job that armando benitez did do all those year ago, then I agree.
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by raisingcain on May 17, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude did have a bad game though
6 innings, 1 HR, 5 walks, 5 K’s (equaling a 6ish FIP), and a whole lotta flyballs equals not a great outing.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on May 17, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I do not envy having to pitch in front of this lineup. One bad pitch and you’re screwed, and the fans turn on you. And wellemeyer gets to be compared to timmy, cain, and at times dominant zito and sanchez. Anything less than a dominant start and you could get the blame for the loss. (Well, I envy the money, and the women, and the part about getting to play baseball for a living for my favorite team. But other than that!)
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on May 17, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants - you're doing it wrong

Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE
by Stuttering John Tamargo on May 17, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
File photo of Eckstein

I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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SHIT THATS FUCK
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Not strong enough…try somethin made in Appalachia from corn squeezin’s.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Jason Stoffel, 2009 (Rookie + A-): 24IP, 1-0, 0.75 ERA, 5 S V, 25K. The heir apparent to B-Weez.
Bushmill’s Ten Year old is awesome
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
All Bushmills is awesome.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
have not had the 18 yet.
The 16 is good, yet completely different from the 10. The 10 is from new casks. Has a nice “green” flavor. The 16 ends in sherry casks, which gives it a reddish cast and a sweetness.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I've got no palette to speak of.
I’ve had pretty much every Bushmills they is. Up to 21, I think. Alls I know is that the older stuff seems smoother. And it’s all good.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
What does painting have to do with whiskey?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
everything
just ask Hemmingway
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I know you're being snarky for the sake of it...
But palette, as with so many words in the English language, has alternate meanings.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You are correct in that I am in fact just being annoying… but while you might experience a rich palette of tastes, when referring to one’s own experience of taste, you are referring to the palate.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll be damned. That’s cruel that they’re pronounced the same way.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The English are bastardy in that way.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Cool. I just learned something new!
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Myself as well.
I always thought it was pronounced “pay let”.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 18, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
No, a “pay let” is one of those places where you need a quarter to answer the call of nature.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
by EliminateMe on May 18, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
you know what, I’m not nearly as upset as I was the first 6 losses. We all knew this was coming. We’re no different than the Giants players. We all expect this game to keep happening again and again and it just keeps happening again and again. I’m comatose right now. I’m apathetic. Fuck it all. Other games I destroyed stuff. Complete disregard for my physical well-being. But I just don’t give a fuck right now.
My feelings exactly
When the Giants play the Padres I just expect them to roll over and pee on themselves like my mom’s pugs do when they get scared. Thank Bonds this series is only 2 games.
Waiting for Buster...
by jordanovich on May 17, 2010 10:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I guarantee the San Francisco Giants will defeat the San Diego Padres tomorrow.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
Dude
It’s Jonathon Sanchez
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Hes gonna need another perfect game. Through 12 innings.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Proud to be the official MCC sponsor of The New Problem
by rightcenterfielder on May 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Me during the game

Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Another metaphor for Giants/Padres

Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1666
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
JIJI!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This is the funniest gif I’ve seen. Awesome
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Predator missile?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I was gonna make a fanpost about the draft
but I’ll save it for a time when I have more energy. And I have the second part of my philosophy final tomorrow. Great. Oh, well see you guys and gals tomorrow for more depression and alcohol.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Never mind
I’ll go to bed after I listen to Verse Chorus Verse
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
lets just sit back and laught his one off...
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahhahahhahhahhahahhahhahahhahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahhahhahahhahahhahhahahhahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha……….phew, much better.
Is that DeSean Jackson?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
God
Only he can fuck up like that.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
He's awesome
But he could be very frustrating.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Doubtful.
That guy appears to have some talent.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
its desean jackson
they played that a lot when he did his thing on MNF
This picture embodies Giants v Padres

Someone more talented than me should do something with this image.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
The best part is this is right after the Huff double.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
he knew
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
He must be looking at Velez in the on-deck circle.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
by Solidarity on May 17, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
/won’t be able to watch the game tomorrow
/happy about this
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I was glad I couldn’t watch the game today. It didn’t stop me from watching my phone compulsively, but at least I was nowhere near a TV.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Obviously
it will take nothing short of another Sanchez “Perfect game +1” to slay this fucking dragon.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
/Giants lose after Sanchez throws five straight walks
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
john terry?
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on May 17, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
When he's not happy

I am happier
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
were you the man city fan here?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
ok
because I have plenty of images ready for city fans
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Inter fan?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Milan, then
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
have fun with Rafa next season
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Liverpool keeps his crazy ass. Though I heard a rumor that Liverpool were considering offering Maradona the position. That would be hilarious
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I found a gif of us!

Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s typing ‘That Matt Cain doesn’t know how to win’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's to hoping I got all the despair out of the way tonight
Going to Game 2 tomorrow at the shark tank. I don’t know I’ll be able to handle coming out of there with a loss.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
just make sure you take someone with you.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
like one of those cute Korean girls
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know shit about hockey
But the Sharks will win 4-2 tomorrow
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as offensive as that weird kissing/licking gif you posted in the gameday thread
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Not trying to be offensive. Mainly looking for funny gif metaphors for our offense. The idea of a baby walking along dragging its head on the ground reminded me of our modus operandi.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Shown in real time it would be merely mildly amusing…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not actually offended by them
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 17, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you subscribe to a pay service to find these awful things or something?
by Grant Brisbee on May 17, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So many ways to answer this.
I’ll just get straight to the point, I am a member of the something awful forums. Lots and lots of gifs.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
SA is probably the worst site on the internet (excpeting 4chan and its ilk, of course). You have to pay to post on an obsessively moderated forum.
DFA Brian Sabean
Are you saying it’s awful?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The forums are pretty amazing. You name it, they got it. Tons of very intelligent posters and lots of good topics. It is a complete spectrum of the internet, though.
But you gotta laugh at a forum that for a time would set admitted furries accounts with a star next to their name and they could only post in the Furry Concentration Camp.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not really.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Furry spotted!
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, you got me Mr. Internet Authority on Enforcing Conformity, I guess the jig is up… I’m going to have to burn all my costumes now.
I hope I’m falling into the chasm here, because that kind of shit is just sad.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh reeeeeeally?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain doesn't know how to win
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Have to lighten up
Especially after nights like this.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
the McCoven is inconsolable
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
by LincecumFTK on May 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
At least
the Rockies got a taste of their own damn medicine.
lol Cubs
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
l
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Wait a second...
….that’s not true!!!
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on May 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This actually made me laugh.
Thanks for trying to cheer me up.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Bochy on shuffling lineup: “What can you do? Pick a lineup out of a hat? I think we’re in the thick of things. I don’t think this is the time to be doing that.”
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT reply actions
In this thing?

"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS THING WE'RE IN IS THICK!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie Molina
Cleanup Hitter for life
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
At least then there’d be a 7/8ths chance Molina doesn’t bat 4th.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but you know he would end up there anyway.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
With our luck
He’d end up at leadoff. Which would be an improvement if only for the hilarity.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
well
he has a higher OBP than Rowand…
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yeah
but Rowand could steal 40 bases!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a random lineup
created by assigning numbers 1-13 to position players as listed on the Giants’ active roster on their website, and using my calculator’s random number generator.
Torres
Huff
Whiteside
Rowand
Rohlinger
Schierholtz
Bowker
Downs
Joe Paterson: pitching in a AAA game near you!
by imovermyhead on May 17, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, Aaron Rowand would probably have to play shortstop.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Nah. Schierholtz at 3rd, Rohlinger at SS.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I love this: A fairly decent offensive month of April, and Bochy moves Bengie back to cleanup to shake things up. A terrible offensive month in May, and he doesn’t think this is the time to be changing the lineup.
AWESOME LOGIC SUCCESS
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
April 30 was when Bengie started hitting cleanup regularly.
Before April 30: 4.6 runs per game
After April 30: 4.1 runs per game
BUT YEAH BOCHY, YOU FUCKING MORON, KEEP FUCKING MOLINA AT FUCKING CLEANUP. THAT’S NOT A FUCKING IDIOTIC IDEA.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
And the After April 30 numbers don’t count today’s game. So they’re actually a little worse!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Also, it’s impossible to know if it’s the reason, but Pablo started slumping when Molina started hitting behind him.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Thinking about it, it’s most likely not the reason since Panda was fine in front of Fatso last year.
That doesn’t make it any less stupid though.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 17, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that I disagree with you, but isn’t this around the time we lost Derosa (lol) and Renteria?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried to adapt this into a tweet
and sent it to schulman, baggs, and urban. lets see if they respond!
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I think they will bring up the Renteria thing. :(
The truth is Panda. Panda at April 30 had an OPS over 1.000, IIRC. Now, not so much.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Bring up Rowand’s absence and DeRosa’s suckiness!
WIN THIS THING!
(And really, the point is that maybe Bochy should shake things up to get them back to how they were before he put Molina at cleanup for nofuckingreasonwhatsoeverotherthanhisgoddamnMolinaatcleanupfetish)
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I totally agree. I’m just playing Devil’s Advocate. Schulman won’t criticize Molina. And when there are some obvious changes it makes it easier to protect him.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
"Must have picked the wrong hat."

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeez, why did this fall all the way down here?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 17, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
responding to a deleted post
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Some good news
The Giants do not face the Padres after tomorrow until August 13th.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Then face them for the last series of the year………..
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
lineup will be different by then
for as usual, Sabes will trade for extra veteraness down the stretch
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
On the bright side
Tomorrow is primary day in Kentucky, Pennsylvania, and Arkansas.
That’s like crack for a political junkie like myself.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Heh
I’m rooting for Paul and Toomey, though Toomey isn’t running against anyone. Couldn’t care less about Arkansas though.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Paul’s basically the establishment candidate at this point; he’ll definitely win. He’s probably weaker than Grayson in the general, though. I honestly have no idea at this point whether Toomey can beat Sestak (he would definitely beat Specter). The Republican (whose name escapes me) will win in Arkansas, but I’d prefer it not be Blanche Lincoln (D-Wal-Mart) who faces him.
DFA Brian Sabean
I was a Ron Paul supporter in 08
It would be nice to finally WIN something.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Meh, Rand’s sold out quite a bit (IMO) over the course of the campaign. He’s become much more of a cookie-cutter Republican than he was before. Of course, some compromise with the system is inevitable in a statewide campaign, and Paul will still be better than most Republicans in the Senate.
DFA Brian Sabean
It’s going to ruin your life and cost your family everything?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Primary what?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
elections!
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Woo-hoo. Governor of Kansas.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Metaphor for a good offense

See, no matter how hard you try, some are gonna get by!
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:09 PM PDT reply actions
Shouldnt that be a good defense? Or a bad defense?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no clue, but it’s damn cute!
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hes beating kittens with a stick.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 17, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ADORABLE
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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THE BELLS OF ST. MARY'S!
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I like to beat "kitties" with a "stick"
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Some of you have a choice tomorrow
Game 2 of the NHL Western Conference Finals.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
THANK GOODNESS
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s either on NBC or Versus.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Well this cheered me up tonight
Just got the pictures link in inbox from sister’s wedding last month. My daughter was the flower girl :)

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Awww!! So cute. :D
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re daughter is so adorable! That just warmed my heart a little!
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 17, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
D’awwww.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
what a cutie
Enjoy it. She’ll be a teenager someday!!! Teenage girls are wonderful but terrible!!
OT
There will be a concert at AT&T on July 10th: McCartney
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Uh, I think I’m going to delete that big gif thread. If no one minds.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on May 17, 2010 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Please do.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
please.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Poof, it is gone. Refresh!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Ahhh good
Now to get back to my detailed explanation of why GRM is wrong about something.
He must listen to reason… right?
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
You Know Not What You Say
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
I got lost. He is arguing that we lost because of pitching, especially Cain?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically Cain lost the game by giving up 2 runs on mistake pitches
even though one of them was not a mistake pitch (with image to prove)
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
…
So GRM is saying that other than those 2 pitches, Cain was good enough to win?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 17, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Not until he gets a mentality that is good enough to win.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Tag, you’re it. I gave up.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I was being facitious
I may be an idiot, but there is one think I am not, sir, and that, sir, is an idiot.
Arguing with GRM is like trying to convince a dog that neutering is good for society. He’ll never believe you, and he probably doesn’t understand half of what you’re saying anyway.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Are any of us really trying to take GRM's nuts?
If so, I will apologize to him. I don’t want them.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
He makes me angry
I don’t get angry often, especially over things on the interwebs. But, he makes me angry.
Anyone that attacks Cain after everything he has done for the organization deserves some sort of punishment.
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
I Am Talking About Today's Game And Today's Game Only
The fact that today’s loss is mostly on Cain doesn’t at all mean that I think Cain is a bad pitcher or a loser. It Just means that today he is one mostly responsible for today’s loss.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
you're also an idiot
sometimes, a summary is all you need.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Thank you.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 17, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
All the GIFs have made it so I can’t load this thread properly.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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I thought you guys basically banned the heavy usage of these gifs on the post game threads.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Strongly discouraged is probably a better word. People avoid the GDTs because their comps can’t handle it, and I think the theory is we want people to feel like they won’t expect that from the post-game.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Yeah
Most of the GIFs posted in here have been from one person.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
yeah, enough is enough
its getting ridiculous.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
rec'd
with eternal gratitude. Thanks jprawny!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 18, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
hankschulman A little math fun: if the Giants go 0-18 vs San Diego yet continue to play .700 ball against everyone else, they’ll finish 100-62. LOL.
1) Henry, you’re a nice guy I’m sure, but you’re way to old to be rocking the “LOL”.
2) But what happens when we play .550 ball against everyone else and get wiped out by the Padres.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
The Giants lost to the Padres?

With sincere thanks to the esteemed Lars
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That actually looks like an amazing place to be all by yourself! Where is that?
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 18, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Makes me a little nauseous
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
That’s my backyard.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
In that case, any chance you’re going out of town at some point and want me to house sit?
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 18, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know… it’s a pretty big mansion for just one person to take care of.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I assure you I’m up to the task
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 18, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
TWHS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe a fiord in Norway?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 18, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
that's my guess
not Geiranger, but something like that methinks.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 18, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve worked about 15 hours today, taking breaks to bathe my kids and watch the game here and there. The game seemed to suck as much as I was lead to believe it would.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
and I really hope David Eckstein passes a mature pine cone through his urethra someday.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
NO OFFENSE NO PLAYOFFS
we not beating just a dead horse, its a massacre of a 162 horses plus my little pony
DUBfan4life!!!!
by BayAreaKidd650 on May 18, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions
People.
Relax. Please. It’s one game. They play 162.
They’re overall playing very well—better even than the Padres, though the record doesn’t (yet) confirm that. Patience is a virtue.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
It’s not one game. It’s seven games. That’s the problem.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
The Giants Are 21-9 Against Everybody But The Padres
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Too bad I was talking about the Padres.
I can cherry-pick stats too! The Giants are 18-6 against everyone but the NL West. We’re 3-10 against the NL West. We play 72 games against the NL West this year. If we keep that pace up, we’ll finish with 80 wins… rounded up, of course.
If you can’t beat division rivals, you’re going to be hard-pressed to win the division.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Two different type of teams but last year the Yankees lost their first 8 vs. the Red Sox. Won 9 of their last 10.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I’m not the Chicken Little type, really. I know the Giants can turn it around, and can win pretty much any game they play in. They’ve demonstrated as much. But the fact that we have to dread the Padres right now, and the impact they’ve had on our season so far, is pretty bonkers.
If we lose all of our first 8 to the Padres, we sit at 21-17, 2.5 games back and possibly in third place. If we somehow took 2 of our first 8, we would be 23-15 and would be in first by at least 1.5 games. If we had split the season series through 8, we would be 25-13 and would be neck and neck with the Phillies for the best record in the National League.
This team has enough trouble completing a sweep, so I don’t put much faith in them to turn out hot streaks down the stretch. That’s why they play the games.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
The Giants Are 3-3 Against The Non Padres NL West
We have a lot more games remaining (in fact 51) against these teams then the 11 that remains against the Padres. We have even more games remaining against everyone else (63 in fact).
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
You’re so dense over this I can’t even put it into words. So here’s a picture of some kittens.

Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
You AreThe Dense One
My whole point is that you should not read into the 0-7 thus far against the Padres what you are reading. If you do then you have to also expect that while the Giants will lose all 11 games remaining against the Padres and go just 25 and 26 in the 51 games remaining with the rest of the NL West they will also go 48 and 15 in the 63 games remaining against everyone else and thus win 93 games.
Do you now see how silly this line of thinking is?
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually I Made A Math Error
21 Wins todate plus 25 of 51 in the remaining games against the NL West and 48 of 63 in the remaining games against everyone else adds up to 94 wins.
by giantsrainman on May 18, 2010 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
You only further prove my point by continuing to harp on this point. Extrapolating on this sample size is pretty silly. More than half of the divisional games we’ve played so far have been against the Padres. You can splice the stats and come up with whatever numbers you want.
But this is a team that is averaging 1.3 runs a game against the Padres, and 5 runs a game against everybody else. The Padres are allowing 3.3 runs per game against everybody else, and are only 16-15 against the rest of the division. The fact that we’re 0-7 suggests that either they have our number, which is a rather fatalistic way of going about things, or that we are doing something wrong against this team. And here’s a hint: It’s not the pitching (our ERA against them is 3).
The results have been consistent. Score 0-2 runs, allow 1-3 more than that, lose another miserable, boring game to the Padres. And now it’s happened seven times. It’s still only May, but these games also count. And if you think we’re going to continue to play .700 ball against the rest of the National League, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
This isn’t about math. It’s about squandering opportunities.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I seem to recall this happening a lot
A lot of people calling you Dense, and you calling a lot of people “you are the dense one.”
Somehow, all of the other people never call each other dense. You are the only common link.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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also
don’t feed the trollz
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 18, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m only slightly less dense than water.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah but
They only have 3 more games against the Astros. They’re only 12-6 against non-Astro non-NL west teams, so instead of 48 of 63 we can extrapolate them to win 3 of 3 from the Astros plus 40 of 60 against the rest …
You’re right, it’s silly. But Solidarity’s point still stands: you can’t win your division while getting your butts kicked by division rivals. Those games effectively count double because of their impact on the division standings.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
I can get behind this line
But now behind the “Today’s game is the result of pitching failing us. We scored one run, we should win the game. If we give up no run we would have won, so it’s the pitching’s fault” line.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Wins in May = Wins
They do not discount them cause they are early in the season. And teams that cannot beat teams in their own division do not make the playoffs. We are 0-7 against the Padres.
And if their miraculous pitching by some continued miracle holds up, the road to the playoffs will be through them. We need to figure out how to beat them. The fact that everything the Giants do does not seem to work and they are losing these boring bullshit games is the more worrisome thing.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Giants on the left, Padres on the right

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Who knew penguins could be assholes to each other? I think they’re even smarter than they’re letting on
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 18, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
March of the Penguins FTW!
/still needs to see it
/yes, NERDZZZZ
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
“Padre”.
“yes son?”
“I’ve come to kill you.”
and then he walked on down the hall.
-J.M.
by Always Keep A Diamond in your mind on May 18, 2010 6:28 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I absolutely fucking refuse to watch another giants/padres game this year. fuck right off. I can’t do this anymore.
WTF? WTF?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum can lose 1-0 just as easily as J. Sanchez ...
BTW – I am wondering what kind of grade Sabean gets for this off-season. It is still early, but given the clear need to improve the offense, I think he pretty much failed.
Also, I am concerned that Bochy will over-extend the starting pitching just to end up somewhere like 83 wins. I wouldn’t doubt if Lincecum, Cain, and Zito all end up in the top ten in Pitcher Abuse Points and fall off in performance after this year. It will be a shame since it is clear they are not a play-off team until Posey is up for a full season and we can add a significant impact player (hoping for Carl Crawford).
I'll give this a shot
Huff=B, better than expected this far.
Uribe=A, He’s basically been carrying the offense while Sandoval has slumped
Molina=C, He’s hitting well, but his defense has been sub par.
DeRosa=F. Broken.
Sanchez=F. Broken.
Overall grade: C. Which is surprisingly higher than I had his grade going into the season.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Weirdest game note ever?
From ESPN.com:
Bruce Bochy, who still has an offseason home in suburban Poway, was bummed because he might have to have his 16-year-old Labrador euthanized.
Insert “Giants offense putting us to sleep” jokes here.
Giants Baseball: TORTURE
16-year-old Labrador is Bochy's codeword for Bowker
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
That's sad.
I feel bad for Bochy.
Proud father of Mike Krukow (who is more than 3 times my age)
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I was too depreseed for this thread last night, but I wish I had read it because I can’t stop laughing at the idea of Rowand or Schierholtz using the term, “crikey.”
I was too depressed also. Now, I am still pissed and firmly believing the Giants simply can’t beat the Padres. They can’t get a break and the Padres are getting all the breaks. Makes me think they know the Giants signs or something.
by out machine on May 18, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Pathetic game was VERY pathetic, glad i went to the bar and sang “Sweet Caroline” at Karoke night instead
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Prescription for Grant
Grant,
One Zanax after each game the Giants score two or less runs ( Be careful, significant chance of addiction). One Zoloft to start the day with rose colored shades on.
Trade Ish and Velez for maple bats and a jar of Perry vasoline. Send Runzler and Downs to minors. Call surgeon for mid season on DeRosa and don’t call him back until his contract expires (collect insurance). Fire medical staff that evaluated Sanchez and DeRosa and by the way remember evaluation on Lowry.
Bring Sanchez up now. Bring Posey up now. Bring Borchard up now. Add Matoz to the bullypen. Sit back and take a couple Zoloft and watch the team score three or more runs at least 75% of the time.
by Longtimewaiting on May 18, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
I’m glad you’re not the GM.
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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PS. John Labrador Bowwowker. Trade him for a bag of sunflower seeds.
by Longtimewaiting on May 18, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
The Labrador thing is in reference to Bochy’s actual dog isn’t it? If I’m not mistaken in that, I don’t know that I really like this gag. I mean, Bochy is actually about to put his real life dog of 16 years down, isn’t he? That really sucks for him.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re right howtheyscored. Keep the dog, put Bochy down.
by Longtimewaiting on May 18, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
This thread really pisses me off
Not just for the fact that the Giants lost, but because the “Matt Cain Doesn’t Know How To Win” crowd is showing their ugly head. These people must be watching a different game than the one I watch.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 18, 2010 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
i’m with you, man
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 18, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s okay. GRM and lexluth are hardly a crowd.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 18, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And lexluth isn’t at that level. He understands that “knowing how to win” is crap. He just wants more.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If you take out the Padreslexluth, we’re 21-9. I mean, we’re fine.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 18, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If you take out the Padres, though, you have to take out the Astros, too. It’s only fair.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
yay, Dusty!
Reds win again.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Makes alot of people here in Cincy very happy... i was asked if i wanted to go, said nope
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Fred Lewis Update - 3 for 5
I wonder if Sabean knows how he is doing. Or for that matter, Henry Schulman.
Of course, it doesn’t matter since he was never going to hit here in SF. Neither was Torrealbea.
Of course Sabean will stay quiet unless something goes wrong. I recall that he was quiet about Liriano, and then in a totally class-less way spoke up when he got hurt. I think he said something like the Giants knew he was prone to injury.
Bring a sign to AT&T with Fred's stats since the trade
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Quit on the Team Percentage: 100%
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Needs some type of colorful boob graph
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are actually blue jays, not boobies. It’s a common mistake, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What if it’ one of those blue boobies?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 18, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that means she’s dead.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Or auditioning for a James Cameron flick.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I hear his next movie is going to be called Blue Boobies And No Social Message to Speak Of.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, sorry. That was actually the working title for Avatar.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
They spent $150 on that script?
They got ripped off big time.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
isn't Last of the Mohicans
in public domain now anyway?
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 19, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: faced with a problem for pokemonz, have both Kurt Suzuki and Geovany Soto, who to keep? considering Suzuki over Soto
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
What moves does your Kurt Suzuki have?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
he’s got a few options… but issue is, Soto has a better AVG, but Suzuki has been hurt
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You should visit a pokemon center then. They’ll heal your pokemon back to perfect health!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.vgcats.com/super/?strip_id=38
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
From YAHOO!
. Posted by Goodwin Tue May 18, 2010 12:35 pm EDT
Why apologize? The Giants suck. I love that they blame Bochy for bad management but he did a great job in San Diego. The reason that you are losing to my Padres is simple. Nor Cal sucks. Everything from Nor Cal just flat out sucks. Outside of providing water to So Cal you bring nothing to the table. Places like Stockton and Suckramento need to be burned off the map. I’ll take the fact that for most of you moth breathers in Nor Cal your families vacation is my home town,
Go Padres.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
I love that they blame Bochy for bad management but he did a great job in San Diego.
No he didn’t.
Places like Stockton and Suckramento need to be burned off the map.
I think you mean “Suckton”.
I’ll take the fact that for most of you moth breathers in Nor Cal your families vacation is my home town,
The SoCal moths kind of suck to breathe, though. We can’t live there full-time.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Alternately:
I’ll take the fact that for most of you moth breathers in Nor Cal your families vacation is my home town,
For how much, Alex?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I have never breathed a moth.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Not even once? In college?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to inject moths directly into my bloodstream. Breathing them was for the people who had cats.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Next thing you know, you’ll be smoking a roach.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Awww…. I was going to do a coke bugs bit.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I breathed a moth once
but I didn’t inhale.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
The answer is simple: stop providing water.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 18, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
/Fresno shrivels up and dies
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Fresno? Interesting choice. I named mine Dingles.
That was a long time ago, though. I should probably come up with something new….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
My friend actually named his “Fatticus Inch.”
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
ugh
Bochy sucked in San Diego…
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"
LOL MOLE
extrabaggs Freddy Sanchez at 2B and hitting for AAA Fresno again today at OKC.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions
I’m going to check the bandages on his wrists when I get my next break. He briefly had a razor flapping around in there, but we have it under control now. In a few days, he should be fine.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Just give the razor some time to calm down.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 18, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wonder why he was performing so poorly.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 18, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, I have razors flapping around.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 18, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s Flapping Around Inside
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 18, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
About the Padres:
OK, they’re probably actually a pretty good team, but not noticeably more so than the Giants. In fact, the two teams are playing remarkably similar levels of baseball. So—any theories on why the Padres have seemed so dominant to date? Is it just a statistical fluke? Is there something about the kinds of pitchers they throw out there that is especially confounding for the kinds of hitters the Giants have? Something else?
I have no theories of my own, save maybe that them’s the breaks.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.

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