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minor lines, 5/16/10

Sunday highlights from the Giants' farm: Eric Surkamp threw a two-hit complete game shutout; Bryan Salsbury combined with five relievers for the 18-inning shutout; Francisco Peguero homered and tripled; Evan Crawford reached base six times; and both Conor Gillaspie and Juan Perez tripled, doubled and singled.

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AAA: Fresno at Oklahoma City postponed by inclement weather
(A makeup doubleheader is scheduled for tomorrow.)

AA: Richmond lost to Altoona 7-6
(after trailing 7-1 in the middle of the 6th inning)

Richmond: SS Brandon Crawford: 2 for 3, 2B, 2 BB
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 3 for 4, 3B, 2B, BB, SO, E

Richmond: SP Clayton Tanner: 2.1 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 1 K--1 HR, 1 E
Richmond: RP Rafael Cova: 1.2 IP, 1 BB, 3 K
Altoona: RP Daniel Moskos: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 K

Crawford and Gillapie both reached base four times while combining for half of the Flying Squirrels' ten hits.  Both still have AVGs below .250, though.  Gillaspie had his 1st triple and 7th double, which raises his XBH/AB ratio to 10%.  He also commited his 7th error, which was one of five errors by the Squirrels today.

Five days ago, Tanner had his shortest start of the season with a season-high 5 R.  Today he followed that up with another 5 R in an even shorter start.  Still, his ERA remains a bit below 4.00.  He also had a season-low 1 K today.  Cova had his second straight appearance with 3 K, but he continues to issue quite a few walks, now with 14 K and 10 BB in 12.0 IP.  Moskos, whom the Pirates controversially selected fourth overall three years ago ahead of Matt Wieters, allowed just his 3rd ER of the year while being credited with his 8th save.

A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 6-0

San Jose: RF Juan Perez: 3 for 4, 3B, 2B, CS
San Jose: CF Francisco Peguero: 2 for 3, HR, 3B, HBP, SB

San Jose: SP Eric Surkamp: 9.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K--1 HB

Peguero had his 3rd HR and 4th triple, raising his SLG to .441.  He also had his 17th SB.  Perez had his fifth straight multi-hit game, including his 4th triple and 12th double.

Surkamp had perhaps the best start of any Giants minor league pitcher this year, facing just three batters over the minimum in a two-hit complete game shutout.  Despite his 2.05 ERA, he has been credited as the winning pitcher just twice--in the two of his seven starts in which he has allowed no runs.  His peripheral stats are now 32 H, 8 BB, and 41 K in 44.0 IP.

A-: Augusta defeated Savannah 1-0 (18 innings)

Augusta: 3B Chris Dominguez: 0 for 8, SO
Augusta: C Tommy Joseph: 0 for 8, SO, GiDP
Augusta: CF Evan Crawford: 4 for 6, BB, HBP, SB

Augusta: SP Bryan Salsbury: 8.0 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 4 K--2 IBB
Augusta: RP Jose Valdez: 4.0 IP, 1 H, 2 K

Normally I don't cite oh-fer lines unless there is at least a trio of strikeouts, but in this case going hitless in eight at bats seems remarkable enough, and that is what both Dominguez and Joseph, the top two hitting prospects on the GreenJackets roster, did.  By contrast, Crawford, the Giants' seventh round selection a year ago, reaching base six times, while also getting his 6th SB.

Salsbury had his third straight excellent start, during which time he has allowed just 12 H, 3 BB, and 1 R in 23.0 IP with 19 K.  In the four-and-a-half hour marathon game, Valdez made his first appearance in a week and doubled his previous longest relief appearance (in terms of IP), as he faced the minimum dozen hitters in the 11th through 14th innings.  His ERA is now just 2.11.

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Whats Surkamp’s line looking like this year?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 16, 2010 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty nice

44 IP, 8 BB, 41 K
2.05 ERA in 7 games

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by jponry on May 16, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Where would you rank him as a pitching prospect?

Top 5 in the system?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 16, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm good question

I wonder how I would rank the Giants top 5 pitching prospects at the moment.

Bumgarner and Wheeler are obviously the top two but where do you go after that? Surkamp, Bucardo, Tanner would probably be in the mix.

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by jponry on May 16, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Graham could jump in there quick, when his season starts up.

by marcello on May 16, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely, but I don’t want to rank him until he actually throws at least one pitch.

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by jponry on May 16, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

that didn’t stop most from ranking Wheels prior to season

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he was also a top 10 draft pick.

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by jcb9 on May 16, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of a difference between a top 5 pick and a 4th rounder with significant concerns.

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by jponry on May 16, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops

I misread, thought you said something about not wanting to rank a prospect until he actually throws at least one pitch.

by wilriv21 on May 17, 2010 5:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just meant him specifically.

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by jponry on May 17, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Casilla as well, though I wish they would give him some starts

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by theghostofjasonellison on May 16, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the list, IMO

1. Bumgarner
2. Wheeler
3. Bucardo
4. Surkamp
5. Pucetas

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by Speedforthewin on May 16, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank God the draft is around the corner.

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least surkamp and bucardo have pitched well. before the season, it was Wheeler and Bumgarner and not much else.

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by Speedforthewin on May 16, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of pitchers pitch well in A ball. They will need to continue their development.

Both Bumgarner and Wheels have pitched below expectations this season.

Am expecting Tidrow and Barr to have plenty of reinforcements come draft daze. Possibly adding Anthony “Falling Faster Than The Euro” Ranaudo?

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you draft pitchers in the draft, they will too be pitching in A ball. At least there are pitchers that are looking good in A ball.

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by Speedforthewin on May 16, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Giants draft Stetson Allie. That guy throws hard and is a big dude should keep his stuff even when stretched out.

My players I would like drafted:

RHP- Stetson Allie
OF – Austin Wilson
3B – Yordy Cabrera
SS – Christian Colon
RHP – Randuo

by krukkuipandclint on May 16, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

using your 5 guys

SS Christian Colon
RHP Anthony Ranaudo
RHP Stetson Allie
RF Yordy Cabrera
OF Austin WIlson

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this list

But switch Allie & Wilson.

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by Gobroks on May 16, 2010 9:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't consider Wheller below expectations

First year in Pro Ball out of high school = adjustment, mechanic, approach, everything.

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by jctGamer on May 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not that I’m especially worried about Wheeler, but certainly it is possible for guys to excel in single A right out of high school. Both Alderson and Bumgarner were pretty lights out from the get-go.

by taliesin on May 17, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Tanner makes me sad.

by Uncle Russel on May 16, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where’s Hacker in this conversation?

I know he is a little old, but his peripherals look good so far this season. K/9 = 8.1 and BB/9 = 2.4. And he has given up zero homers in 38 IP. Even as of 2 years ago, he ranked in the top 30 in the Yankees system. If he stays healthy????

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by capn on May 17, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you’re excluding relievers, I think I’d be inclined to take Henry Sosa, Waldis Joaquin, and perhaps Jason Stoffel and Steven Edlefsen ahead of a couple names on this list. I also would like a scouting report on David Mixon as I think I might be inclined to rate Mixon ahead of Bucardo.

by steve S on May 17, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he's not there, he's close...

That is not saying good things about the system.

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by BruteSentiment on May 17, 2010 3:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tough to say...but I like him

The problem with Surkamp is that he is a somewhat older guy playing in Advanced Single-A. He’s going to be 23 years old in July. Now, it isn’t as bad as some other guys on the roster (for example, Eric Stolp is 25 years old), but you would think for a guy who played a few years in college Surkamp would be in Double-A at least by now.

Other than that though, Surkamp has potential. He seems to be a Noah Lowry type of pitcher: his stuff isn’t explosive, but he has good command. I’m definitely interested to see how he progresses as he moves up through the system.

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by objesguy on May 17, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nattoesque

lines for CDominguez and TJoseph.

Surkamp: WOW. That’s a nice start!

Good to see some of the farmhands SP going deep into games. Maybe we can finally get off the 6 IP for a starter is a good outing. Pitch well. Pitch efficiently. Pitch often. Follow The Nolan Ryan Experiment

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey! Dominguez only struck out once!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 16, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Progress!

Stay hot, Nate!

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by Lyle on May 17, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

you're right

the guys in our organization clearly have no idea what the fuck theyre doing when it comes to starting pitching.

by superk1ng on May 16, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry, did you say something about a nice start?

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by atxgiantsfan on May 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

delorean wuz wrong!

Looks like your time traveling space car couldn’t help you here. Didn’t you learn anything from Biff?

by marcello on May 16, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

he is following the Brian Bocock Experiment – if you can’t hit then take a walk.

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worked for Figgins

The fact is, pitchers aren’t that great at throwing strikes. If you can lay off balls, you can be a passable hitter.

by marcello on May 16, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m skeptical he can keep it up, but Crawford has made a pretty incredible transformation. He has now walked as many times in 34 games at AA as he did last year in 108.

by Evan on May 16, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have assumed you might be his biggest supporter…

Stay hot, Nate!

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by Lyle on May 17, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I support him! But I’ve been seduced and abandoned before …

by Evan on May 17, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I’ve been meaning to call but my schedule is just crazy right now.

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by Lars The Wanderer on May 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

THATS THE SAME THING YOU SAID TO ME!!!

/pummels tear stained pillow

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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you want Lars to call? Isn’t the shame of one night enough?

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by groug on May 17, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT I BELIEVED HIM

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by Johnny Disaster on May 17, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops

Actually, Evan, I thought you were talking about Evan Crawford, not Brandon. My bad.

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by Lyle on May 17, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every time I think of laying off pitches to an extreme

I think of Luis Castillo’s 2009 as analyzed here

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on May 16, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will take that.

Then once his power comes around…

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by DesertFox on May 16, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

…the monster that is Crawford!

I still hold out hope for him.

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by theghostofjasonellison on May 16, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is all we can do, Maynard

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I passed up Velez to draft Surkamp

I’m liking my decision.

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by Speedforthewin on May 16, 2010 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I understand this

In what type of draft would Velez ever even be considered?

by marcello on May 16, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The McC Adoption Draft. There were still players on the 25 man roster, but I passed up them for Surkamp.

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by Speedforthewin on May 16, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but c’mon. Taking credit for passing up Velez is like patting yourself on the back for declining anthrax.

by Evan on May 16, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s true. I’m really pleased with Surkamp’s season so far.

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by Speedforthewin on May 16, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than you felt with:

Alderson
Tanner
Clark
Barnes
Snyder

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am sad that Tanner is doing so poorly.

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by rotorueter on May 16, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

to be fair

Barnes and Alderson haven’t fared so well since going to Akron (CLE) and Altoona (PIT). Maybe it’s the jump to AA and they will adjust? Alderson is still quite young. Plus it’s not exactly the largest sample size.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barnes seems to have lost his control, but he’s striking out more than a batter an inning. I’d love to still have him in the system.

by Evan on May 17, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he got us Garko! uhhh… yeah.

I should say that their performances make me feel less bad rather than good.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 17, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

/pats self on back

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by Johnny Disaster on May 16, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh

Stupid me, I forgot about that.

by marcello on May 16, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surkamp haters

Suck it!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 16, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly!

Now when Ari Ronick gets going…

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by Lyle on May 17, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Open Question To ALL

Any reason why Juan Carlos Perez is playing CF and Francisco Peguero is playing a corner?

Does the organization believe Darren Ford in the heir apparent CF and thus Peguero will play a corner?

Please help an old man find some answers.

Regards

by wilriv21 on May 16, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I think both are playing CF

They’re just rotating it. My guess is the Giants think both can play CF and want them to get experience there.

by marcello on May 16, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

This...

They want both to get experience in both places. The Ben Copeland/Fred Lewis issues of years past (players who were so uncomfortable changing outfield spots that they’d take problems to the plate) have made the whole outfield versatility thing something worth working on, especially with the more athletic prospects.

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by BruteSentiment on May 17, 2010 3:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

yow, that sounds like human resources management and player attitude are being actually thought about.

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by foothillsfan on May 17, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOLTP

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by Gobroks on May 16, 2010 9:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Holy shit

Peguero already has 17 steals???

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by stealth snail on May 16, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn’t realize that until you said it, that’s insane.

by marcello on May 16, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

VROOM!

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on May 16, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine how many steals he’d have if he were running on our pitching staff!

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by Solidarity on May 17, 2010 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or our catchers… oh wait, sorry, none of it is actually Bengie’s fault

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by capn on May 17, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

he doesn’t even need to catch Sanchez, who has no pickoff move whatsoever.

I swear to God Molina was following Pudge’s mantra “Call fast balls on 2-1 counts so I can throw out runner at 2B” the last few seasons. I suspect this is why Zito hated throwing to him.

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by jctGamer on May 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. And how the hell does a left handed pitcher not have a pickoff move?

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by capn on May 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

does not want people saying “he throws like a girl” after seeing the toss to first.

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by foothillsfan on May 17, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Madison Bumgarner

Second Game of DH on Monday May 17th

so 7 inning complete game shutout

7 IP
3 H
0 ER
2 BB
8 K

GO/FO: 6/5

He’s back?

by wilriv21 on May 17, 2010 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow. Nice line.

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by Giant among Angels on May 17, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who was it against? The San Francisco Giants?

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by SFGuy on May 17, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

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