minor lines, 5/13/10
by steve S on May 14, 2010 10:56 AM PDT
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PrintThursday highlights from the Giants' farm: San Jose's lineup scored 21 runs, which included Freddy Sanchez reaching base in all five plate appearances; for Fresno, Angel Berroa homered and doubled.
AAA: Freno defeated New Orleans 6-5
Fresno: CF Eugenio Velez: 3 for 5, 2 SO, 2 SB, E
Fresno: C Buster Posey: 1 for 5, SO
Fresno: LF Ben Copeland: 2 for 3, 2 2B, BB, CS
Fresno: SS Angel Berroa: 2 for 4, HR, 2B
New Orleans: 1B Mike Lamb: 2 for 2, BB
Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 BK
Fresno: RP Alex Hinshaw: 1.2 IP, 1 K
Fresno: RP Steven Edlefsen: 1.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER
Velez had three of the Grizzlies' dozen hits, raising his AVG to .313. He also has 5 SB in four games. Copeland and Berroa each had two XBH, including Berroa's 1st HR. Copeland now has 8 doubles. Posey had an unremarkable line, letting his AVG slip below .350. Playing his first game in the minors this year after eighteen games in the majors, Lamb reached base three times, despite not being in the starting lineup.
Hacker allowed 3 ER for the second straight start but still improved his W-L record to 6-1 through seven starts. In relief, Hinshaw worked 1.2 perfect IP, but Edlefsen allowed hits to five of the seven batters he faced, which raised his BAA to .233.
AA: Richmond defeated Altoona 4-2
Richmond: LF Thomas Neal: 2 for 4, 2B
Richmond: RF Roger Kieschnick: 2 for 3, BB
Altoona: SS Chase d'Arnaud: 2 for 3, BB, SB
Richmond: SP David Mixon: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 9 K--1 WP
Altoona: SP Tim Alderson: 4.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 4 K--1 HB
Kieschnick reached base three times, raising his OBP to .365, while Neal's 7th double was the Flying Squirrels' only XBH. Together Neal and Kieschnick accounted for more than half of the Squirrels' seven hits. Rated by Baseball America as the Pirates' #5 prospect, d'Arnaud reached base three times. He has been off to a slow start this year, and his OBP remains well below .300.
Mixon followed up the season-high 8 K in his previous start with a new season-high 9 K in this start. With no more than 2 ER allowed in any of his last six starts, his ERA is just 2.32. Alderson, the ex-Giants farmhand acquired by the Pirates for Freddy Sanchez, has made two of his last three starts in Richmond. He has allowed 4 ER in each of his past three starts, raising his ERA to 6.35.
A+: San Jose defeated Visalia 21-9
San Jose: CF Juan Perez: 4 for 7, SO
San Jose: 2B Freddy Sanchez: 3 for 3, 2 2B, BB, HBP
San Jose: 1B Brandon Belt: 4 for 6, 2 2B, BB, SO
San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 6, HR, BB
San Jose: SP Kyle Nicholson: 5.0+ IP, 8 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--2 HR
San Jose: RP Brian Anderson: 2.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER
With four hits each as the Giants pounded out 26 hits in all, Perez and Belt raised their respective AVGs to .319 and .383. Belt now has 13 doubles, while the rehabbing Sanchez has five doubles in just three games. Sanchez reached base in all five plate appearances. Monell had his 5th HR while reaching base three times.
On a night with plenty of offense (although officially the wind was blowing at just 4 mph out to RF), Nicholson yielded 7 ER but still was credited with the win. Anderson allowed a couple runs in his second appearance.
A-: Augusta lost to Charleston 3-2
Augusta: LF Nick Liles: 1 for 3, BB, SB, CS
Augusta: SP Kyle Vazquez: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Liles was the only GreenJacket to draw a walk and the only one to reach base twice, raising his OBP to .372.
Vazquez had the so-called quality start but suffered his first loss of the year. All three runs allowed came in the 2nd inning.
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which included Freddy Sanchez reaching base in all five plate appearances
LOL!
Ask me about my blog.
He caved!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Can I claim I did it all for your amusement? Look how many comments were posted within minutes?
by steve S on May 14, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
steve s
prospect hound and provocateur.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
steve S
postwhoring with the pros!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 14, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s the first thing I looked for. Too funny.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on May 14, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Steve. That made me chuckle.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on May 14, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Freddy also helped clean up the field afterward, but no mention of that!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 14, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
And helped an old lady across the street.
Are You So Biased Against Old Ladies You Can’t See That?
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Do unicorns have clitorii?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 14, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
A giant one on top of their head.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 14, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
That gives this image a whole new meaning
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 14, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Horny horse is horny.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 14, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeez, give it a rest, Steve. Keep your pro-Sabean, pro-Freddy agenda off of the minor lines. Sheesh.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Maybe Freddy Sanchez should be in SF tonight instead of Fresno. Then again, you can be sure Sabean doesn’t want to appear like he’s panicking.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
He has to go to AAA first and then I asssume he really needs to hone his skill at AA before joining the big club
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Is Juan Perez a CF again? I just noticed his line: .331/.362/.568 lots of BABIP, but the ISO is appealing.
Ask me about my blog.
kind of alternates
with Peguero, or when Peguero gets a day off.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez
by foothillsfan on May 14, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
He’s got the brace off of his knee, and his mobility is back. He’s still not stealing bases like a leadoff center fielder should be, getting his first two last night after being caught on his first two steal attempts earlier this season, but there’s a bit of potential there with his power.
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by BruteSentiment on May 14, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Any word on his range in CF?
Interesting that he stole 18 bases last year with the brace and hasn’t done much running yet this year. Maybe just being cautious on the knee?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
He’s really boosted himself back up as a prospect, he’s been killing the ball the last few weeks, it seems. Would be awesome if he kept that up in Richmond
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on May 14, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
1. SUCK IT ALDERSON
2. BELT
3. Berroa putting up good stats makes me nervous.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah, what’s up with #3? Shortstop of the future!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 14, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Would it even be surprising if Berroa outhit Renteria the rest of the season?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 14, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
My former son. :(
I should quote myself in my signature too. -Natto
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Looks like grm will have to find a new way to be a douchebag today.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
The funny thing about Freddy Sanchez
is that he won’t make a damn bit of difference.
OK, so maybe that wasn’t so funny.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 14, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions
Really?
Our production out of 2B isn’t great, and is likely to get worse as Downs comes down. I think Freddy will contribute.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
Well, OK
I really can’t argue with your feelings.
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
/rubs trade stone
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
The Trade Stone is a McCoven
So what it will get is a player named “Matt” who’s bat is on Holliday.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 34%
by daveinexile on May 14, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That cleaned my nostrils.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 34%
by daveinexile on May 14, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually enjoyed watching him play the field in his limited engagement last year… so that will be different.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 14, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
LOLderson
Still, he’s in AA, and Freddy’s only in A+ ball.
AA > A+ = BAD TRADE!
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 11:10 AM PDT reply actions
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Theese always kick butt!
In good way.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 34%
by daveinexile on May 14, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
In the Orlando airport flying home. Delayed three hours and my flight to SJC was canceled.
THIS put a smile on my face. Thank you, Josh from Hollywood.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on May 14, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems like they’re trying to teach Velez how to steal. 5 SB in 4 games? I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to turn him into a strict late game pinch-hitter/runner.
Herb Washington says "Hi"!
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
by EliminateMe on May 14, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Would be more useful than Ishikawa’s role on the 25-man roster.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on May 14, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
So would Alex Gordon or Kila Ka'aihue
ARR The the White Whales Blow!!
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 34%
by daveinexile on May 14, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always thought that in the post-season a team should use a roster spot on a guy strictly to pinch run. It doesn’t work in the regular season (at least not in the NL) but in the postseason when the bench shortens, I think it could be a worthwhile use of a roster spot. Not that any of that really applies much to this, just a theory I have.
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 14, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's a good idea for the 25th man
to be fast, even if he’s not much of a hitter (and usually the 5th 6th OF isn’t much of a hitter anyway). Like Dustan Mohr or Rajai Davis; not like Ishikawa.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 14, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Post Should Be Called Freddie Sanchez Lines But Your Obviously Baised I Can Smell It
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 14, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
Flat Ass East
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on May 14, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Zod still before Neal
my boy has a 9 game hitting streak. 4 of those games are multi-hit games and 4 SBs during that frame. Unfortunately, only 2 xbh (1 2b, 1 3b) and only 1 walk to 8 k. Slash line is 258/331/371, which is not what we’d like. the avg is starting to climb (.333 over last 10 games) and hopefully the power numbers will start to climb soon as well, though his FB% seems to be down a bit this year.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 14, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
All the credit goes to the mohawk.
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by BruteSentiment on May 14, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
please keep the Neal info and analysis coming. Daily or more often is OK with me.
Some prospect fans discard the first month or 2 of production at a new level. Especially when the team was farther North.
Actually many of the April games were low scoring all around, and played in Penn. and Conn.
Comparing May to April, Thomas’ BA is up, but his slugging is down, also his BB/K. He could be pressing to impress and reach a light tower.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez
by foothillsfan on May 14, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
we saw that with Kieschnick (and some other FS). he showed no power until this week. hopefully, once the weather gets a bit warmer, they warm up as well. the EL is a pitcher’s league, too, by most accounts.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 14, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup
It’s important to remember that it’s early and they are making the (supposed) hardest jump in the minors. It would have been nice if they had all hit the ground running, but it’s not surprising they didn’t.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Hmm. There is a suspicious lack of giantsrainman comments here.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
We Might Need Someone Else To Fill The Void
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
No, we are not in any hurry for a second string Rainman.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 34%
by daveinexile on May 14, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But Dave, I Thought We Were Friends
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
by Outside The Box Thinking on May 14, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Why settle for the cheap imitation ?
Which leads to the question how would one quanity the distance betwen Rainman and the imatation?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 34%
by daveinexile on May 14, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I Disagree, Second String Rainmen Are Rightly Sabeans First Priority
My Son, fourth outfielder extraordinaire.
My rule for the 2010 Giants: Everyone with an OPS over .800 gets a pass.
kind of late for lunch comments. But I am fighting cold bug and will now go chop raw garlic on top of greens and raw beets, a lil toast and avo on the side.
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez
by foothillsfan on May 14, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants do have a better win % with Velez on the roster
some bring the intangibles
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I’m going to see the SJ Giants tonight, yay!
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
comments from Visalia
Watched three of the four games in Visalia this week. Freddy looked quite rusty in the beginning of the first game, but after his third at bat, he looked much more comfortable – he just needed to get the rust off. In yesterday’s game he hit a ball that was clearly 6" foul down the line and the umpire called it fair – must have been a Major Leaguer intimidation call or something. The Visalia manager came out, got into the face of the umpire and they went toe to toe for a while until the manager was tossed. After that, any ball hit close to the line was called fair by the fans and the umpire was given grief the entire game – with a score of 21 – 9 what else were the fans to do. Freddy also looked sharp in the field. After a few games in Fresno he needs to be brought up. I’m just saying.
Brandon Belt can flat out stroke the ball – nice line drives off his bat and he takes a walk when he doesn’t see anything to hit. He also fields his position well. Ehire showed some real flashes in the field yesterday – he just needs to figure out how to hit his way out of a paper bag, although he did get a few hits during the games I watched. Although Wendell and Charlie didn’t embarrass themselves, neither showed evidence of producing like a high draft choice should.
SO YOU ARE NOT SAYING!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 14, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL POSEY
LOL VELEZ WILL BE BACK WITHIN A WEEK. LOL BOWKER.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
LOL GIANTS MANAGEMENT FOREVER
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I know it’s only early May and this is his first minor league season, but can’t we promote Belt already? He’s dominated at SJ and shown more than Crawford did last year to get promoted in around the same time frame.
Plus there is nobody really blocking him at AA.
Woah woah woah.
Lets promote him AFTER I go and see him play tonight.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
what's the hurry?
you’ve got to love the results, but Belt is no Posey. expectations were low, and probably for a reason. I’d rather under- than overpromote him. give him a full season at each level, no matter how well he does. at worst, you.. well, honestly, what’s the downside? am I missing something? at best, of course, you avoid stunting a nascent talent and end up with an unexpected bonus in the 5th round.
Agree with keeping him in A+ ball for now. Give him another 100 PAs and then evaluate. Do not know about a level for a season since a bat will normally tell you the right time for promotion.
Oh no. Do I agree with Will-Riv for a change?
I don’t think I’ve mentioned in this year in the comments about Belt, but I think the Giants are doing the right thing to keep him in high-A for the time being. In terms of the comparisons to Crawford a year ago, I’m under the impression, although I don’t really have anything to back this up, that Crawford was promoted as much for his own performance as there was an opening at the level above him because the Giants decided to demote that player.
agree
It’s still only one month. Let’s not get ridiculous with early promotions
by FluLikeSymptoms on May 14, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks And Keep It Up. Freddy's Results (Good, Bad, or Indifferent) Need to Be Covered
He is after of all the guy currently in the minors he is the one with the best chance to make the biggest positive impact on the San Francisco Giants playoff chances this year.
I Messed Up
The opening of the first sentence should have read
“Of all the guys currently in the minors he is the one”
by giantsrainman on May 14, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, and his stats in the low minors are very telling.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, if only steve had listed Freddy Sanchez’s stats over the last couple days, this wouldn’t have been a big deal at all.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I’ve actually been thinking about this the last couple of days, mainly because I think not only is this complaint by GRM the craziest thing he has ever written on this site (which is saying something), but maybe the craziest thing anyone has written on this site. But what really stumped me was the question of which part of his complaint was the craziest:
A) The idea that downplaying a rehabbing veteran’s stats in the low minors is showing some kind of bias (against whom I’m not really sure).
Or…
B) The idea that putting the stats of a veteran rehabbing in the low minors in the post, but not going out of your way to highlight them in the lede, is showing some kind of bias.
Hmm. It’s a toughie. Either way, as I’ve thought about this, one thing kept coming into my mind over and over — the dialogue Detective Mills (Brad Pitt) says to John Doe (Kevin Spacey) in the car at the end of SEVEN:
“I’ve been trying to figure something in my head, and maybe you can help me out, yeah? When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you’re insane? Maybe you’re just sitting around, reading “Guns and Ammo”, masturbating in your own feces, do you just stop and go, “Wow! It is amazing how fucking crazy I really am!”? Yeah. Do you guys do that?"
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I think it is "C"
C) That he has the temerity to tell a a guy who is doing a service for the whole community how to do it correctly, especially in a tone that extrememly dickish.
If You Don’t Like It, Fucking Do It Yourself!!!
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on May 14, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He has covered Freddy’s stats every day he’s been on his rehab assignment
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But Never Before Above The Jump Where It Belongs
by giantsrainman on May 14, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You seem to be the only person who thinks that Freddy Sanchez’s statistics in A ball belong before the jump
In fact, if you think about it, it’s likely that Sanchez’s stats will be reported in the usual main media sources everyday, which makes it even less important that Steve mention them before the jump. They were probably mentioned in the AP write ups of the last three games. As I said before, although Sanchez is probably going to be an important (for better or worse) member of the 2010 Giants for the rest of the year, he is not why we read minor lines. You don’t see minor league statistics for most players widely reported or talked about (other than Posey and perhaps MadBum). That’s what this is for.
Your complaint is especially rude and irritating, seeing as the entire thing is about not mentioning him before the jump – who cares? Is there anyone on this site who only reads the blurb before the jump and doesn’t bother reading the whole set of lines? If steve was completely leaving out Sanchez’s lines, then you might have a valid complaint, but he’s not. And I suspect that even if Freddy had gone 0-4 the last two nights, he would have mentioned it in SJ’s stats, even if he wouldn’t normally do that for a player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on May 14, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
When you start providing this valuable service to the community, you can start deciding what goes where. Until then, STFU.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 14, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have his performances been notable for the pre-jump blurb aside from this one?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
He Is The One Likely To Make the Biggest Difference This Year For The San Francisco Giants
His progress towards doing this is more important the the progress of the rest of which most will be lucky to even get a cup of coffee at the MLB level sometime before their career ends.
by giantsrainman on May 14, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But I don’t think many people read the Minor Lines solely in terms of “How important is this player going to be for the Giants in 2010?”
If you’ve noticed, people here love following the minors. We don’t just pay attention to/have memes about the top 10 or even top 20 prospects – we pay attention to the whole teams, no matter how small the chances of those players even making the majors is.
As such, I really don’t think that should be a factor. Most McCoven read and enjoy the Minor League lines because we enjoy following prospects (no matter how mediocre of prospects they are).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That Stuff Belongs Below The Jump Not Above
What is placed above the jump should be what the players that are likely to contribute the most and/or the soonest are doing.
by giantsrainman on May 14, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Why don’t you provide something of value to the community before you start making demands of the members who do.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I was just going to go with STFU, but yes, this.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 14, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, what the hell, since when do you get to dictate what the format of Minor Lines should be?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s much easier to criticize the work of people with talent/creativity/work ethic than to actually create something yourself.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on May 14, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLNO
This is basically equivalent to saying “Sports shows should only highlight the accomplishments of the players who usually play the best, not the players who actually did play the best.” In other words, you’d rather hear about Albert Pujols going 0-4 with two strikeouts than hear about Luis Castillo going 3-5 with a homer and two doubles simply because Luis Castillo isn’t usually very good and Albert Pujols usually is; Pujols is likely to contribute the most and Castillo isn’t.
It’s MINOR Lines, not Top Prospects and Rehabbing Players Lines. That MINOR means MINOR LEAGUES, not just a select few who have the greatest chance to help the parent club (and exactly how do you propose to make that distinction?). We concern ourselves with those players because we like the Giants organization, not just the Giants team (and even if you claim to just like the major league team, you should still look at the minor leagues, because the performance of those players directly and significantly impacts the big league club), and we want to know quickly about under-the-radar guys who are performing very well, because that will factor into our beliefs about what the team should do. For example, the casual fan is probably still unaware of Belt’s dominance, and would consider signing Fielder or Gonzalez in the offseason a great move. But we can say no, we’ve got a potential starting 1B in A-ball, and while it’s too early to call, it would really be a shame to commit $20M a year over six years to a guy when he’s going to block Belt.
Or, if you don’t feel like reading that, you’re just wrong.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
I’ll just note that I found the second paragraph of this comment interesting, because as I think I’ve previously noted I wrestle a bit with whether this series is to highlight minor league performances or prospect performances. I’ve acknowledged, for example, that there are some inconsistencies in how I include pitchers and hitters.
Here's The Thing
I don’t think many of us give a shit how Sanchez does in the minors during his rehab assignment. In fact, I’m pretty sure I can count the number of people who read Steve S’s minor lines for FSanch’s progress on one hand.
Sanchez is who he is at this point, and it would take a drastic Bocockian line to maybe place any value in his performance during his rehab stint.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
You seem intent to prove you actually are Sabean
What Sabean said:
Triple-A baseball isn’t very good. I’m going to tell you that right now. Especially from a pitching standpoint. Anybody who can pitch is in the big leagues. Most of the prospect arms, the stuff that really can neutralize hitters, are at Double-A. You look at what some of our (struggling hitting) prospects are doing there.
So these guys (like Posey) are facing Four-A pitching, and you better have a lot of people see ‘em at different times and write their reports and almost have a straw poll of private ballots. Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago.
What he should have said:
As you know the PCL is a hitters league. So, you can’t just take the stats at face value. In addition, Bengie and Eli have been playing great baseball for the big league team. And, although he’s made great strides in this regard, we’d still like Posey to polish up his defensive game a bit.
What you said:
How Is freddy Snchez’s 2 Doubles And Three RBIs Not Notable?
I smell bias here.
Not Placed Above the Jump Where It Belonged
But buried in the body just like an article that should of been page one but is placed near the want ads instead.
SBN Highlighted The Name It Wasn’t The Author’s Choice.
This belonged above the jump and not putting it there was a conscious biased choice.
Nice Job Completely Ignoring The One Guy That Is Likely To Help Us The Most This Year
What you should have said:
steve, thanks for all your work putting together minor lines each day for the community. I’m sure it’s a lot of work but it’s obviously appreciated by everyone here. I was wondering if you could include Freddy Sanchez’s daily line above the jump as I imagine most Giants fans are curious how his rehab is going and he should be a key addition to the MLB team soon. Thanks!
Stop being an ass to the one guy in this place who likely deserves it the least.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Sadly, I’m referring to myself.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Delusion: A fixed, false, idiosyncratic belief
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
Agreed
Can anyone just suspend GRM for a week? Steve S doesn’t deserve this.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I seriously don’t understand why this doesn’t happen. What does he contribute? When was the last time he went an entire day without being an asshole? Can anyone suggest a single reason why he shouldn’t be banned, let alone suspended or warned?
I was promised lasagna.
he's Goofus' sock puppet
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 15, 2010 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Where have I been lately?
Just tried to look up how Frandsen was doing in Salt Lake on MiLB and I see he’s playing second base for the Angels and batting .500.
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
The more things change, the more they stay the same
rainman is still batting 1.000 at being a dick.
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on May 14, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez On Fire? Well
I guess Sabes was right: AAA pitching really does suck.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on May 14, 2010 5:58 PM PDT reply actions
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