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minor lines, 5/12/10

Highlights from the Giants' farm: Madison Bumgarner allowed just 1 ER in 6.0 IP; Buster Posey doubled three times; Roger Kieschnick homered twice, as well as walking twice; Drew Biery homered, doubled and singled in the second game of a doubleheader; and Daryl Maday combined with three relievers on a shutout.

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AAA: Fresno defeated New Orleans 7-1

Fresno: C Buster Posey: 3 for 5, 3 2B
Fresno: 1B Brett Pill: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SO, SB
Fresno: P Madison Bumgarner: 2 for 3, SO

Fresno: SP Madison Bumgarner: 6.0 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K--1 BK
Fresno: RP Henry Sosa: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 3 K
New Orleans: SP Ryan Tucker: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K

Posey doubled three times.  He now has 16 XBH among his 43 H and 121 AB (.355 AVG).  Pill also reached base three times.  With 12 doubles, he has two more doubles than Posey but fewer XBH overall.  Bumgarner was the third Grizzly with a multi-hit line.

Bumgarner matched his longest start of the year with 6.0 IP that included a new season-high 5 K.  The 7 H were the most he had allowed since his second start of the year when he allowed 11 H and 10 H in his first two starts but only 12 H in the next four starts combined.  He pounded the strike zone tonight with more than three quarters of his pitches (66 of 87) going for strikes.  Sosa's eighth straight appearance without allowing a run lowered his ERA to 0.86.  Tucker, who has been rated among the Marlins top ten prospects for the last couple years, has scuffled through the start of this season.  He has a 5.28 ERA and an 0-4 W-L record through six starts.

AA: Richmond defeated Bowie 5-0

Richmond: SS Brandon Crawford: 2 for 4, BB, E
Richmond: LF Thomas Neal: 2 for 5
Richmond: DH Roger Kieschnick: 2 for 3, 2 HR, 2 BB

Richmond: SP Daryl Maday: 5.2 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Richmond: RP Andy Sisco: 1.1 IP, 1 BB, 4 K
Richmond: RP Rafale Cova: 1.0 IP, 2 BB, 3 K

One night after finally hitting his first homer, Kieschnick didn't waste any time in going deep again, connecting for his 2nd HR in the 1st inning and his 3rd HR in the 5th inning.  Overall, he reached base four times, improving his season line to .297/.353/.424 through 118 AB.  Crawford reached base three times, improving his OBP to .338.  Neal was the third Flying Squirrel with two hits, raising his AVG to an even .250.

For the third time in seven starts, Maday did not allow a run.  He impressively has a 6-0 W-L record and a 1.54 ERA.  Tonight he had a 7/5 GO/FO line, causing his GO/AO ratio to slip to 1.88.  Sisco matched a season-high 4 K, and Cova had a new season-high 3 K.  Four Flying Squirrel pitches combined for a shutout despite issuing seven walks.

A+: San Jose lost to Visalia 3-2 (10 innings) in game 1

San Jose: 2B Freddy Sanchez: 1 for 2, 2B, 2 BB
San Jose: PR-2B Jose Flores: 1 for 1

San Jose: SP Justin Fitzgerald: 7.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K--1 WP

In his two rehab appearances, Sanchez now has three doubles and two walks in eight plate appearances.  The rest of the Giants' offense was limited to three singles, a walk, and two hit batters.  Flores, who pinch ran for Sanchez in the 8th inning, had one of those three hits.

Fitzgerald's fifth start was his longest start of the year.  The was his first start with fewer than 3 K and his first start with more than 1 ER.

A+: San Jose defeated Visalia 8-3 (7 innings) in game 2

San Jose: CF Juan Perez: 2 for 4, 2 2B
San Jose: 3B Drew Biery: 3 for 4, HR, 2B
San Jose: SS Ehire Adrianza: 2 for 4, 3B, 2B, 2 SO, CS

San Jose: SP Oliver Odle: 5.0 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--1 HR

Biery, Perez, and Adrianza each had two XBHs, including Biery's 2nd HR and Adriazna's 1st triple.  Perez now has 10 doubles.

After eight relief appearances, including 5 ER allowed in his last appearance, Odle made his first start and pitched effectively enough in the spot start to be credited with the win.

A-: Augusta lost to Charleston 6-4
(after allowing five runs in the 2nd inning)

Augusta: 3B Chris Dominguez: 2 for 5, 2B, SO, GiDP
Augusta: 1B Luke Anders: 2 for 4, 2B

Augusta: SP Zach Wheeler: 2.2 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 2 K--1 HB, 2 WP
Augusta: RP Jeremy Toole: 2.1 IP, 2 H, 1 BB

As part of multi-hit lines, Dominguez and Anders had their 11th and 10th doubles, respectively.

Wheeler had perhaps his second least effective appearance as a pro, raising his ERA to over 6.50.  With 19 H and 16 BB in 20.2 IP, he has allowed nearly two baserunners per inning.  After three weeks on the DL, Toole returned to action making his third appearance as a reliever after starting the year in GreenJackets' rotation.

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finally Neal makes it into the minor lines.

Yay Bumgarner, boo Wheeler.

Meaningless Posey doubles are meaningless

by speedyt72000 on May 12, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

awesome update, thank you.

by Unitard on May 12, 2010 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Maday stays hot

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on May 12, 2010 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Also encouraging is that Kieschnick may be getting a bit more disciplined. 29 K:11 BB on the season (not great but better than last year). 11 K: 7 BB in the past 10 games.

by BestHyperboleEver on May 12, 2010 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I’m going back to panicking about Wheeler. He obviously had no idea where the ball was going in this game.

by taliesin on May 13, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, if by that you mean Sabean ignoring Posey

by Frank144 on May 13, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

/shows you the door

.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!

Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan

by ryanmiles on May 13, 2010 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Save it

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on May 13, 2010 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG HOW CAN YOU IGNORED THE SUCCESS OF A MLB PLAYER REHABING IN A+ HE IS OBVIOUSLY ON THE SAME TALENT LEVEL

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get it. If he’s talking about Sanchez, Steve listed his line.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh.

That’s a weird gripe.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess that is GRM’s MO

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

You expect GRM to ever do anything that’s not weird!?

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.

by jcb9 on May 13, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am pretty convinced that GRM doesn’t even believe 90% of what he posts anymore. He used to make some sense sometimes, but I can’t even remember the last comment he made that wasn’t completely crazy. He’s either losing his mind or is just looking for attention, and in either case there’s no point in arguing with him.

I think I’m just going to ignore all his posts from now on. I encourage others to do the same.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on May 13, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s unbelievable you can gripe about minor lines. Steve puts a lot of effort into providing these lines over the course of the season. Quit being an ungrateful POS.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on May 13, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Steve S should get a one day reprieve while GRM does the minor lines for a day.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

or better yet, GRM gets his account suspended for trolling.

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I Agree - The Stench From The Bias Is Ridiculous

Brian Irving goes two scoreless innings, lowering his ERA all the way to 5.63, and nothing. Boy will Steve S feel foolish when Irving is outpitching Tim Lincecum by August.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

by Outside The Box Thinking on May 13, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

this has to be a joke right?

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 13, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one reads these for Freddy Sanchez's lines

We read them for the minor leaguers. I don’t care if Steve doesn’t include Sanchez’s line in the opening blurb.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 13, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those Words Do Not Mean What You Think They Mean

Complete Ignoring =/= including in minor lines and devoting one sentence to his 2-game rehab stint

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 13, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not even close to being funny

He’s just being an asshole.

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.

by SFGuy on May 13, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

As others have said, you’re being an asshole. Knock it off.

by taliesin on May 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wheels on the bus go round and round

Where in the world is Matthew Graham? When will he hit the links mound in Augusta?

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 2:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe they’re holding him back until Salem-Keizer gets started?

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.

by jcb9 on May 13, 2010 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t S-K normally for just drafted college kids?

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes they hold folks back if they don’t think they’re ready for the Sally League, no?

For example, my adopted Giant is apparently in extended spring training until short season starts up.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.

by jcb9 on May 13, 2010 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think my adopted Giant is bunking with him.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAWT!

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on May 13, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The farm needs some subsidies

June 7 draft cannot get here early enough. Sabean sent out Tidrow to fix Bumgarner and it worked. Who will Sabean send out to fix most of the highly touted yet disappointing prospects? Git r done, Sabes!

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 2:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Posey's line now

.355 / .448 / .579

AAA baseball must really, really suck.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.

by jcb9 on May 13, 2010 5:48 AM PDT reply actions  

with BMoney and Whiteside hitting well where does Geraldo play? If you want him catching then let him hone his craft.

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

not gonna last

Bengie’s BABIP:
2010: .359
Career: .278

Whiteside’s BABIP:
2010: .364
Career (SSS, of course): .299

Anyway, while I’d be happy to see the Giants sell high on Molina, I’m not actually calling for any action right now. Just saying Posey’s pretty good.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least extended spring training).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.

by jcb9 on May 13, 2010 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Geraldo is very good. And still developing his catching skills. Why they have him playing 1b I do not know.

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because he can "hone his catching skills"

by receiving 50 or so games in the bigs this year and still play first base. Next year he’s behind the plate from day one. Also playing first base some will prolong his career. If his bat is as strong as I hope, there will come a time when he’s moved from the position. It may be 10 years hence, but it will happen. Catchers careers generally don’t last as long.

There is nothing mutually exclusive about this. It’s an easy decision quite honestly. Whiteside “calls a great game” and “handles the ptichers oh so well” (man I’m getting sick of that) but his recent hitting run is not going to last. He’s never hit.

I don’t know this, of course, but I have to believe there are a hell of a lot of GM’s that shake their head over this. The Giants are a team that is DYING for some hitting. Posey can hit. The pitchers are not going to forget how to pitch on those games he catches. He’s a terrific athlete so he should get better fast. And shouldn’t he be catching the good pitchers? Because we know that they are ALL in the major leagues. Sabean told us.

by lexluth7 on May 13, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

he only plays 1B like once or twice a week

to keep his legs fresh and keep his bat in the lineup.

by superk1ng on May 13, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

are you sure of those numbers? Believe they have him playing about 25% of his playing time at OTC (other than catcher)

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He now has 23 games at catcher and 7 at 1B (an one as a DH). So yeah, 25% is about right.

Before this year had never played a single game at 1B. This is definitely about more than just resting his legs.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on May 13, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are the chances that Maddy is not our next great pitching prospect but rather our next great hitting prospect?

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Question: Better hitter

a) Madison Bumgarner
b) JHey

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

WCW WAS WRONG!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 13, 2010 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was, I really really was

..when in that initial predraft wishlist I predicted that Wieters, Moustakas, Vitters and Mills would be gone by #10.

Mills lasted to #13.

by wcw on May 13, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do people come up to you on the street and ask for your autograph?

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

No need to. He offers it to people who walk by.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on May 13, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can a) play left field?

Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels

by capn on May 13, 2010 7:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The path of Rick Ankiel

Although I think Bumgarner will fare better than Ankiel in the pitching department. See, Sabean knew what he was doing when he passed on Heyward.

Sure J-Hey can hack, but can he pitch too? I am not an idiot.

/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism

by Scooter Ellis on May 13, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

This can’t be said enough. It’s really easy to take it for granted.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 13, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

although the rec is really for the daily/nightly labor that goes into these.

"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on May 13, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on May 13, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

2 consecutive outings for Quinowski where he is put in with a tie score and left in until he loses in 3rd or 4th inning of work. Tough assignments, with this stretch including no days off for 3 weeks and another doubleheader next week.

SJ roster must be thin in other ways. Culberson doesn’t play the field in either game, Mazzola totally absent.
Sanchez goes only 7 innings, and Belt, Adrianza, and Biery go full time both games.
And in the outfield JC Perez and Peguero swap center and right and play both games. Fairley DHs the 2nd game, as they give atbats to the young and maybe improving prospect.
Weeks, listed as a SS, catches the 2nd game. No Lowenstein.

The SJ team site breaks down batting by month. So we see most players are hitting worse in May than in April—including Belt, Perez, Peguero, Fairley, and Adrianza.
Those improving in May so far include Culberson, Biery, Monell.

proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez

by foothillsfan on May 13, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

earlier in the season SJ had a game suspended – was this that game?

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't seen this done in a while

The Good: Crawford, Sosa, Posey, Neal, RK, & the SJ bats
The Bad: Wheeler
The Ugly: giantsrainman

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on May 13, 2010 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

You Aslo Left Sanchez Out Of The Good

Your bias sickens me.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on May 13, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am waiting for the “I quit You McCC” FanPost by GRM.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

He likes it too much here!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never actually said he willl quit, I just think he so dramatic that it might happen.

You know whatelse, his acting of late is somewhat reassuring as during the off season I started to question my sanity b/c I was agreeing with him a lot more than I normally would!

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

GRM gets a bunch of attention and he enjoys it. It’s what he does.

ALSO BIASES!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

GRM’s offseason was just a SSS

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on May 13, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

GRM himself is just a SSS. Thank God.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 13, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wishes he could quit MCC.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on May 13, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

every morning he logs on and says “I wish I knew how to quit you”

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 13, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to somebody on minorleagueball.com

Wheelers velocity was around 92-94 while touching 96. At least he’s showing great velocity, GB/FB rate and K-rate.

by superk1ng on May 13, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

i would sacrifice velocity for effectiveness any day of the week

by wilriv21 on May 13, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

axgiants says to expect Micheal Sandaval to join Conor at 3b in richmond!

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

seriously?

wow.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 13, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa

apparently, Michael played in the minors for awhile already? And played in Newark last year?

According to this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Michael_Sandoval

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on May 13, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was originally in the Twins system. Got as high as A+ ball in 2004 and then disappeared after playing a partial season in the Indie League that year. He wasn’t seen until 2009 when he popped up again in the Indie Leagues playing for the Newwark Bears.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

28-year-old prospect!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on May 13, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was 2 games going on simultaneously at Fitch today, and the other game had Michael Sandoval at 3B. He should be at the end of his rehab assignment come this weekend or so. His swing is nice and compact and pulls balls down the line, I am pretty sure today he had 2 doubles with this approach. He is projected to join Conor Gillaspie at 3B in Richmond, and I would recommend keeping tabs on him when he gets there.

http://azgiants.com/post/554474670/04-27-10-est-freddy-sanchez-rehab-cubs-fitch

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on May 13, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow, dueling Sandovals. Pablo can slide to shortstop if need be.

proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez

by foothillsfan on May 13, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well that seems like a bad idea. Except that the other idea is Renteria.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on May 13, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew I should have drafted him!

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on May 13, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

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