Eli Whiteside hitting fifth?
by Grant Brisbee on May 10, 2010 2:41 PM PDT
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PrintThis isn’t really a stat-driven site. This doesn’t have to do with some sort of ideology on my part; I’m just not good with statistics and math. I’m an English major. I’m much more comfortable drawing parallels between Eugenio Velez and Grendel. Numbers hurt my head, so you’re not going to see posts on xFIP or WAR, and you’re not going to get fancy graphs. If you want that sort of junk, you can take it to the abacus-twiddling hacks at ESPN.
Stats are crucial to the understanding of the game, though. Crucial. And before the curmudgeons start inking up the pterotype to send me a nasty letter through the mail, please note that everyone uses stats. Old-timers reference batting average and RBI, which are numeric representations of actual events. Stats. They’re used because there’s no way to keep track of the precise performance of 25 or so players over 162 games in your head. There’s no way that aggregated anecdotal evidence is going to improve on the existing recordkeeping, whether you fancy batting average or OPS+.
So when Bruce Bochy says something like this…
Sabean and Bochy seem to be like-minded in their philosophy regarding minor league statistics. They have their place in the evaluation process, but it isn’t an overriding one.Otherwise, how could Bochy have rationalized putting backup catcher Eli Whiteside, a hitter with a career .389 slugging percentage in nine minor league seasons, in the No.5 spot in Sunday’s lineup?
We all know Whiteside is swinging a hot bat lately. So do you discount the minor league track record?
"Yeah, you do," Bochy said. "Some guys figure it out later and improve and make adjustments. Whitey started making adjustments in Fresno last year and he really started swinging the bat with authority and driving the ball. … He looks very comfortable at the plate, he uses the whole field and he’s got nice balance up there."
Bengie Molina is another example of a late bloomer, actually. He was an organizational catcher and non-prospect in the Angels system who didn’t make his big league debut until his sixth pro season.
…it hurts. It’s not a big deal if Whiteside bats fifth – it’s probably not the difference between making the playoffs or not. It’s just an example of an organizational philosophy that’s completely bizarre. And I know that the lineup was more based on Whiteside "seeing the ball well", or something, rather than "Whiteside’s a great hitter now!", but bear with me….
Does anyone really think that 30 scattered at-bats can possibly be more meaningful than 2,324 at-bats in the minors, in which Whiteside hit .244/.288/.393 for his career? When Mike Benjamin had fourteen hits in three games, he was certainly hitting the ball well. He was lining the ball all over the field, and he looked great doing it. But he was still Mike Benjamin. Everything he had done to that point hinted at a Mike Benjamin-like player, and when the hot streak subsided, he was still Mike Benjamin.
If the Giants don’t see that Whiteside’s 30 at-bats to start the year are much more likely to be a Benjamin-style fluke, even if they’re only looking at stats like batting average or RBI, they’re being obtuse. And if they don’t see the difference between Whiteside’s .244/.288/.393 career minor league numbers and Bengie Molina’s career minor league numbers of .299/.350/.447 -- if they think, hey, catchers improve late all the time, look at Bengie -- well, they’re being worse than obtuse.
But that’s not the only explanation: they might be arrogant instead. They might think that they can see through the scouting matrix, that they can tell in just a handful of at-bats whether a player can sustain his improvement. They can tell who is driving the ball because of a mechanical adjustment, and who is getting lucky by looking for the right pitch at the right time in a small sample. Even though baseball scouting is such an inexact science that first-round picks bust often, and 12th-round picks can grow up to be once-in-a-generation hitters, the Giants have figured it out.
Maybe Whiteside has improved. That’d be great. Players improve all the time. But you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between an improved Whiteside and a Whiteside who is performing unusually well in a small sample. I wouldn’t be able to tell. Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean wouldn’t be able to tell. The difference is that some people think they can tell the difference, and they’re managing the team.
Right now, it’s not a big deal because the team is hitting well. But it’s these kinds of decisions that lead to Fred Lewis getting traded for a subscription to Grit Magazine, Eugenio Velez starting for most of the end of 2009, or John Bowker getting buried after a week’s worth of awful at-bats after he wins a job because of spring training. It’s why Mark Lewis is brought in to platoon with Bill Mueller, and why Nate Schierholtz could only get a couple hundred at-bats last season on a team with the worst-hitting right fielder in baseball. Minor league stats mean nothing. Personal observation means everything. Win a job in the spring, lose a job in a week. Step right up. That’s the Giants way.
There are mountains of evidence to suggest that Eli Whiteside is the worst hitter on the Giants, which puts him high up the list for worst hitter in baseball. I like the guy, I really do, and it’s not a big deal if a backup catcher isn’t a good hitter. But there’s a scrap of evidence that Eli Whiteside is a good hitter, and he should hit anywhere but in the eighth slot when he plays. The Giants pay more attention to the latter piece of evidence, and not just in this instance are they looking at a tiny sample that probably means nothing to make decisions.
It hurts. It just hurts.
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I had forgotten completely about Grit until 5 minutes ago.
To wikipedia!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
HOLY SHIT IT STILL EXISTS
I literally had no idea.
I only remember kids walking around the neighborhood trying to sell it.
Unreal.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
I agree with your suggestions and wish to subscribe to your…Grit magazine?
/swoons
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by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
GRIT magazine
Not only does the magazine still exist, we’re thriving. What’s more American than apple pie, ice cream, and GRIT magazine?! Here’s even the ball cap you should sport to the next game!
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i woulda put timmy in the 5th spot
after that 3 RBI performance against the dodgers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTl3IFgRr20
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Whiteside can bat wherever he wants...
when you catch a no-hitter, Bochy automatically forgets everything bad you’ve ever done.
don’t forget the grand slam!
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
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by Tim LinCyYoung on May 10, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I would actually compare Eugenio’s glove to Beowulf’s swords. All of end up breaking or being completely useless. In fact, the only time Beowulf actually does something positive with a blade, he’s using somebody else’s dagger. And yes, it is quite homoerotic.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Wait, this was about Eugenio Velez, wasn’t it? Eh… still pretty erotic.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I really really really wish Fred had won a LF job in spring training, and stayed hot for the first half of the season to keep his job.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
excuses excuses
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: We're all happy to be wrong.
by atxgiantsfan on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Duh
Whiteside batted 5th because he was the guy getting the ABs in the 5th spot yesterday.
Bork
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The thing is, it happened
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately Bochy is also going to look at the two K’s on Sunday that Whiteside framed perfectly on pitches a good six inches off the plate as reason to give him more playing time as not only he calls a good game, but also catches one too.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on May 10, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
The guy has hit #5 once; he hasn’t been installed there, and by the doting-on-SSS reasoning, his bad day there in New York should mean that he won’t be there again. I would suppose that Bochy is simply blowing smoke to cover up his (meaningless) managerial hunch. Then again, his hunch is not absolutely so far fetched as a comparison of Velez to Grendel—maybe one of Hrothgar’s thanes who is munched on by Grendel for a hearty breakfast.
Or Crispin Glover?
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It’s not that Whiteside batted fifth that Grant is worried about here. It’s the very fact that Bruce Bochy said this, point blank, and in all apparent earnesty:
So do you discount the minor league track record?
“Yeah, you do,” Bochy said.
That is troubling.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, AAA isn’t very good.
Especially the pitching.
LITERALLY
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
See, if this comment weren't based on a Sabean quote
I’d think you were batshit insane!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
yes, but someone is batshit insane. and it’s not me. it’s someone else.
need a hint?
it’s brian sabean.
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And they won’t even let me run a Little League baseball team.
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Hard to have a great OBP in little league...
since the umps’ strike zones are wild… it’s hard to take walks unless the kid pitcher throws a lot of balls in the dirt… still gotta stop the little kids from swinging at them, though.
Not to totally defend Bochy, but here I go
“Discount” and “totally ignore” are two different things
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Yeah but they still pick and choose.
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Good point Goofus
My wife never totally ignores discount.
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Mine does.
Thats because I tell I could have saved 100%.
- Not bought a single thing.
I am ussaly cooking my own dinner and doing my own wash for a couple days after taht though for some reason. I am pretty sure there is not causation with this corralation though.
/shrugs
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by daveinexile on May 11, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
She gets to sped 200 bucks on groceries
and wants to get on my case for spending 360 bucks on Sharks Playoff Tickets.
Sheesh.
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Actually, I'd say that in this context the definition of discount would be this one
to leave out of account; disregard: Even if we discount the irrelevant material, the thesis remains mediocre
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
If i give them the benefit of the doubt
…I interpret it as “You can’t put too much weight in minor league stats”
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It’s hard to put too much weight in anything when Bengie Molina is your benchmark.
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
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He has skinny legs and the camera adds ten pounds.
Wait… was that you?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
there must be 10 cameras on him at all times.
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20
20 fat cameras
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
:D
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
One of those times that Friends was actually funny
I remember one time it was on tv, I laughed at this and my wife told me “I thought you didn’t like Friends.”
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That's how I read it as well.
As I said elsethread, I see this as being not that different from the belief that Bowker’s AAA success last year came from a changed approach, so we should put more weight on those stats than those from previous years.
On the other hand, even looking at Whiteside’s major league statistics, he still doesn’t look too impressive: .249/.291/.391 in his MLB career to date.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
What exactly did Whiteside drastically change in the minor leagues?
by AmorVincitOmnia on May 10, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, "swinging the bat with authority"
I guess before that, he was using his hands like everyone else.
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I don't mind re-arranging lineups based on people who are hitting hot at the moment.
I just wish they’d do it with people like Nate as well.
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
You don’t want to screw him up.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree, While long term stats should be heavlily favored for making the regulary day to day lineup. If a guy is hitting everything on the screws, even the outs, there is no harm in moving him up for a few days. Players do get hot (see Rowand), the trick is to move them back down as soon as the cool off.
Like the stock market
which is also impossible to time.
by FireBrianSabean on May 10, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
Never understood the argument that you want to move a player while he’s hot for two reasons:
1. When somebody’s in a groove, the last thing you want to do is change what they’re doing.
2. Once you notice that somebody is hitting well that means you have already missed the boat. You should have made your move right BEFORE he started hitting hot.
By moving him you’re making it more difficult for him to continue his improved pace and you’re setting yourself up for the inevitable when your player slumps while sitting in a valuable position in the line up.
Can't do that with Nate
because, you see, he didn’t establish himself over 9 years in the minors as a poor hitter, and without having established that, a 30 AB streak of goodness can’t possibly be taken as evidence of a real improvement.
See, it’s tricky. Try to be more careful.
You clearly have a grasp on the Mind of Bochy
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Any Of You Haters For One Minute Even Consider The Possibility And Look For Evidence That Sabean And Bochy Might Be Right?
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions
In a subject line of that length he usually butchers at least one word.
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by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Crape
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He'll Do That !00% Of The Time
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not even ownage: Just reporting the facts.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I do consider, and after careful consideration, do not subscribe to this interpretation of their actions.
THIS
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This Post Is So Typical Of Someone Just Looking For Something To Bitch About
I trust Bochy’s eyeballs.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
TWHS
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i dont understand this post.. pretty sure we have a decent record and are playing decent ball as of right now, and we should have HOPE , not disparaging remarks
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
You forget...
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by paboperfecto on May 11, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Disparaging remarks give me hope.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I Don't Believe We've Met
LincecumFTK, I’m glad you don’t subscribe to the grougthink bitchfest.
/grm
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
nah i try to see the postives in this team, like the fact we are 18-12 not 12-18, and the fact that we are a better team than the team that is 0.5 games ahead of us in the standings
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
I Don't Think You're Understanding What's Happening Here
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Groug is charging now?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
groug used charge?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Parody Is Not For Sale
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet she could be mine for 500,000 Frankenfrancs.
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by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
20 Stanleynickles
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Eugenio Velez Have An Option Left?
Or Should I Ask How Is Guillermo Mota Doing?
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Once again...
fuck this team
’s management
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If only that were true, young Pika...
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This article was way too long considering the subject was Eli Whiteside
WTF is wrong with you, Grant?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Lars Version:
Eli Whiteside:
LOL 5 SPOT HITTER
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by ringleader3 on May 10, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
/kicks puppy
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
To space!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly!
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Grant actually didn’t write that. Not enough 80’s rap references. Susan ghost-wrote it for him.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahem...
’80s
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you.
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I thought he was talking about octogenarian rappers.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I, too, didn’t mind Eli hitting 5th so much. Aside from the slumping Panda, a lot of these guys seem pretty interchangeable so far. We’re not really sure what kind of hitter DeRosa and Huff will be for us, we’re not sure if Uribe will remain patient, we’re not sure Rowand is a .300 hitter again, etc. etc. At this point, a small hunch like Whiteside 5th doesn’t bother me.
What does bother me is consistently starting Torres over Nate against lefties. Or burying Bowker when he’s one of our few power prospects.
What I do like, however, is giving Downs a real chance. I’m pleasantly shocked.
Stay hot, Nate!
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It’s a good point: with that lineup yesterday (Rowand, Torres, Sandoval, Uribe, Whiteside, Schierholtz, Downs, Rohlinger, Linceum), who do you have batting fifth? To Bochy’s credit, Torres’ speed and occasional amazing at-bats that end in walks are more valuable in the top of the lineup, and Schierholtz and Downs, who are both seeing the ball very well, were batting sixth and seventh. Do you bat either of them in front of Whiteside? it’s sort of a wash.
I could see batting Rowand there for a day and giving Schierholtz a go in the leadoff spot. Or, you could give Bowker a start and let him take some hacks batting fifth, since he hit the longest home run of any Giant this year; that he can hit for power is not really in dispute, even if his bat has been somewhat cold so far this season in a very limited sample.
…But if he did either of those things, he wouldn’t be Bochy.
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my lineup would have been the same as the one Bochy used, but with Whiteside 8th and Schierholtz/Downs/Rohlinger moved up one spot each
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why Nate Schierholtz could only get a couple hundred at-bats last season on a team with the worst-hitting right fielder in baseball. Personal observation means everything
I feel like this is a different problem altogether. Winn wasnt playing because Schierholtz wasnt hitting, he was playing because he had good lifetime numbers.Whiteside is playing because he has good small sample size numbers. Bochy and Sabean twist numbers to use in their favor, to justify playing whoever they want to play.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
Yep, they don’t use statistics right at all. It’s their entire thought process that’s messed up – they form opinions, and stats are only there to be cherry picked to back up those opinions.
by Missing Barry on May 10, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Either that
or they are HISTORICALLY AWFUL communicators
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I think it's both
They are completely fucked in the head, and their communication is abysmal.
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
There's an xkcd for this
But the money line is in the roll-over text. Gah!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
so put the alt text below the image
problem solved
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
But then it doesn’t roll-over!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
actually
i think you might be able to do that.
Which one is it?
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Science Valentine, #701
It’s a good one, but the actual strip is wordy and perhaps not so applicable.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Link fail.
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Fuck
I hate the internet sometimes. Link. There it is. I’m just not html-savvy. At all.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Don't worry
I predict that this internet fad will fade away soon.
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Me in 1989:
Fuck school! What future is there for me dicking around with circuit boards and ICs?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Oh, there it is.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
.........
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
by 49er16 on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Not just a metaphor after all
When car shopping, I guess all that Sabes truly, really does is kick the tires:
“You wanna take it for a drive, sir?”
“Nah…tires feel good against my shoe-and-sock covered toe for the split second toe meets rubber. I’ll take it.”
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on May 10, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
I still don’t really believe they batted Whiteside fifth. I just don’t.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I Did Not See It With My Eyeballs, Therefore It Did Not Happen
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They just fixed it in post.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I listened to this game on the radio and I wasn’t even aware of it.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
YEAH JPONRY GET OVER IT ALREADY
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LET GO OF YOUR LONGSTANDING SORROWS
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
we won right? even though pablo probably couldn’t hit a volleyball right now and whiteside had 6 LOB. we won. its over. deal
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
The first step is denial, bro. Let me go through my grieving process in peace.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Good lord, you are humorless.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Humorless and bossy
It’s an annoying combination.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
and thinking you know everything about how to run a baseball team isnt annoying at all. yeah, your right.
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
to party
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on May 10, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
you should fight for that
amirite?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
And don't stop
Until you’re in Brooklyn…with Stacey’s mom?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It is my right.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wait
Your right…meaning my left?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
1st ammendment win
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
FREEDOM OF SPEECH I CAN SPELL IT HOWEVER I WANT SUCK IT
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
FREEDOM OF LOCATION AND STUFF TOO
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE GROUNDED, MISTER!
NO VIDEO GAMES FOR A MONTH!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I WISH ID NEVER BEEN BORN
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if you had asked to be born the answer would've been NO!
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
NO VIDEO GAMES FOR A MONTH!
ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE??!!
It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant
TWO MONTHS!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
And thinking you know everything about how what to be happy about with regard to this team is kind of annoying.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Non-sequitor
I said nothing about your first statement, therefore your whole post makes no sense.
You are annoying. Get over it.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Yes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
i don't understand
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
he has a scarf on his head. your argument is invalid.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Also, this.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand your post [LincecumFTK], so here’s a picture of me with a scarf on my head.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
also
can I shop that quote on top of the picture?
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
You can shop whatever you want on the top of that picture.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
whoa now
that could get ugly. I have a pretty wild imagination.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
comic sans >:(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That like your mortal enemy or something?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
seems a little extreme
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Or not enough!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
comic sans > papyrus
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry about it. Try not to get too worked up about anything I say.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
no one ever gets worked up because of howie.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I don't know
that picture…
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s because we’re all too busy getting down.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
howie I'm sorry
but I think this might just be going a little too far
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
I haven’t posted a picture of myself in a while, though. I was due.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, your mustache isn't terribly thin in this picture
Now if only the rest of your facial hair caught up.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Howie has taken to gluing pubes to his face.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t judge me.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least his pubes arent terrible thin.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if his pu...
Um, I think I have thought better of completing this post.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Italian “freelance stylist” Jame Veleri to the LA Times: “I went for high fashion, not something too easy or too predictable. I thought it was cool and not too mainstream, but not too gay or Twinkie-boy.”
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW stop! he's so good, but i hate him
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Noooooo. Not gay at all. No sir, not one bit.
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
http://deadspin.com/5531060/gallery-a-roundup-of-kobe-bryant-photoshop-humor-updates/gallery/
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
My first thought upon seeing that picture was “that looks like a National Geographic cover”
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF WHAT IS GRIEVING IN PEACE!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t matter if the Giants won? Man, if only someone had written a long post about how this exemplifies the problems with the Giants decision making process so that you understood why it’s concerning.
It’ll be a great day when someone does that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Nah, brah, it’s just like this. When you start telling others how to be fans, it’s a little annoying.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
now
READ MY BLOG!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on May 10, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The key part of being a fan is the ability to propeller wildly.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey went 1-3 today with another HR...
he also threw out 2 baserunners….if only he was in back in AA
"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading
by Mordy From Monsey on May 10, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
Did he just equal the amount of base runners thrown out by Bengie and Eli this year in one game?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mind you
Buster didn’t bother getting out of the squat to throw them out.
/tall tale
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on May 10, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
so he was poppin' a squat on the plate
typical of today’s youngsters and their lack of respect for the game
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
On the other hand . . .
. . . maybe all those useless, poor-quality AAA pitchers include a few with some idea of what it means to hold a runner on (a skill apparently not needed at the major-league level). Just a random thought . . . .
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
So he had three opportunities to get hits, and he only had one? Lame.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
he had 4, but also got a walk, so that’s another knock against him
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
*
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Shiiiiiiiiit.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
as soon as he proves he can dominate the shitty pitchers in AAA, they’ll unredemote him to AA where he will finally be able to prove his mettle
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on May 10, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be an 0-5 with 4 strikeouts in the major leagues. And he would have allowed three passed balls and thrown the ball into centerfield six times (twice when no one was even running, he just wanted to throw it into center field for the lulz.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Pfft
Anyone who can steal bases is in the major leagues.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
AAA stats are meaningless
since it is not real Baseball.
translated to AA, that would read -1-3 with another CD (cancer diagnosis) and would’ve thrown out 2 orphans from their orphanage.
He'll be in AA when he's ready.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Confused Brian is confused
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on May 10, 2010 3:14 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Defending those who can't be defended...
Bochy is a moron when it comes to the lineups, this I will admit. However, can you really rip the guy for installing Whiteside for one game, when he was basically playing a hunch? I’ll admit, I’d much rather see Bowker hitting there (Or anyone), but it’s not as if he’s hitting fifth in a lineup that would otherwise be unbelievable. Bochy has to basically guess and hope for the best everyday. Outside of Panda at 3rd, nothing else can really be guaranteed. Which is why I feel okay with cutting him a break.
Take, for example, the Phillies. The thought of replacing Werth with Whiteside as the #5 would be unbelivable! Hell, Whiteside hitting anywhere other than 8th every time in that lineup make no sense. But the Giants don’t have that lineup. They’ve got Pablito, and a bunch of clowns, posing as an offense.
I don’t get upset that Whiteside is hitting fifth. I get upset that Whiteside CAN hit fifth on this team. And that’s not Bochy’s fault.
again, shitty decision making is not excused by good results
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on May 10, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS +109
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS FUCKING THIS
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
If my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
and if a frog had wings
it wouldn’t bump its ass when it hops
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Sure it would. It wouldn’t bump its ass when it flies. Probably would when it lands, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it...
My comment, or the post itself?
by SixFourThree on May 10, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Grant even mention once that Whiteside didn’t get a hit in the fifth spot yesterday? That’s not the point.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If my grandmother had wheels......
…she’d be a wagon.
ie didn’t happen
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. Because the post isn’t about Whiteside’s spot in the lineup and it’s not about Whiteside’s performance. It’s about Bochy’s fuck-quote. I really don’t see why this is so unbelievably confusing. If Bochy hadn’t fuck-quoted, this post would not be here. Guaranteed.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
It’s only a matter of time now before somebody puns obtuse.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That joke is just not right.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCKING ANGLES
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Man Geometry sucks.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny sure isn’t giving you equal laterial thinking room
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
STOP IT ALREADY THESE PUNS SUCK
(although that one wasn’t so bad)
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll stop because I cannot figure out how to pun isosceles.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Isosceles at the park yesterday. She’s doing well.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sceles?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
HA U STARTED IT
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Merope out of nowhere
Hitting the puns with the Right Angle.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
what kind of a graph is that?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
racist
you dirty Saxon
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate every team from Southern Cal, not just the Angles.
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Surely there are degrees of your hate, like Dante’s Inferno. Who do you cheer for in a Clippers-Lakers game? UCLA-USC?
Other than the meteor, I mean.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
easy
Clippers and UCLA
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Can't you just be complementary?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ALL WOULDN’T BE ANGRY IF THEY LOST YESTERDAY.
Wait.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on May 10, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Swing and a miss
Try to pay attention to the actual point.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Wrong.
Also, believe me. We are all happy that the Giants are playing winning baseball. But they are really doing it in spite of the management tactics. We can be happy with the results, but still question the means.
It is not a one way only street.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I don’t think anybody is really ripping him for having Whiteside hit fifth. As Grant says clearly: “It’s not a big deal if Whiteside bats fifth – it’s probably not the difference between making the playoffs or not.”
We’re ripping him for apparently believing wholeheartedly that everything Whiteside has ever done as a baseball player means less than what he’s managed to do in the last week.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ding ding ding ding
Winner winner, chicken dinner. Howie, thank you.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I dunno
Schierholtz/Downs/Rohlinger might be less ‘proven in the majors’ than Eli Whiteside (lol 76 career OPS+ in the majors), but their minor league track records are much, much better than Whiteside’s.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
True...
But are they career back-up catchers?! I think not.
Sorry, couldn’t resist. My first time posting a quasi-snarky Bochy zinger.
by SixFourThree on May 10, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
They’ve got Pablito, and a bunch of clowns, posing as an offense.
The thing is, this just isn’t true. Or, at least, not as true as it was last year. Of the 8 players with > 80 PA this season, EVERY ONE OF THEM (except DeRosa) has been above average with the bat. 6 of them have been average or above offensively over their careers.
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"Average or above offensively"
as judged by wRC+
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Now, hang on a second...
How can we make Bochy out to be an idiot, if he’s basing his lineup on what is agreed to be a small sample size, yet applaud the offense for basically over-achieving in the same small sample size?
We all know what the stats say about most of the hitters in the lineup, and for the most part, they show that regression is likely for many of those who are performing well at this point.
by SixFourThree on May 10, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
that's why
i threw in career stats too. 7/8 have been average or better this year, and 6/8 have been average or better over the course of their careers. This would seem to suggest to me that while some are definitely playing over their heads right now (I’m looking at you, Nate and Bengie), it’s a far cry from “Pablito and a bunch of clowns”
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Bengie isn’t really playing over his head. He always drags the offense by its hair to victory for the first month or two, and then slumps hopelessly at some point during the summer to even out his stats until he gets injured and has time to rest and finish out with relatively average numbers.
Really, he’s just playing to form right now.
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Uhh
Giants players overachieving is always a good thing for a Giants fan.
If Bochy sends Affeldt out as a pinch-hitter and he hits a grand slam, that would be seven flavors of awesome. It would be serious overachievement on Affeldt’s part. However, that would still make it a bad idea for Bochy to send him up to pinch hit again the next time the bases are loaded.
I don’t see any contradiction here.
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So Whiteside hits fifth...
Where would Buster fit in this equation?
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It will be interesting to see if they call Posey up right after it’s safe to do so with regard to Super 2 eligibility, or if they wait longer. I suppose it will depend on the health and performance of Benjamin Molina.
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It depends on if he is “ready” or not. He needs to hit MLB caliber pitching and catch MLB caliber pitchers…so perhaps in september? He will learn while sitting on the bench because he is a rookie (again) and it is a pennant race and bork bork BORK BORK BORK.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree with this.
I am of the thought that this is all for arb clock purposes. I think Posey will absolutely be called up when 1) it the danger of Super Two has passed and 2) the Giants have a need for him.
Honestly, the C/1B situation, from an offense standpoint, isn’t remarkably improved with Buster on the roster right now. Perhaps if he plays LF then there’d be a reason, but I don’t think that’s the best use of his talents.
I guess my question is, if Bengie Molina is still hitting .333/.402/.457 on June 10th, or whatever, then obviously Buster won’t really be needed at the major league level yet and I would hope they keep him in AAA until he really will be starting.
But if Bengie were hitting, say, like he did last year (.265/.285/.442) would they even consider that enough to be benched?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I would like it to be enough, but I suspect it would like Winn, where the aging, slumping player still gets the call every day in order to play his way out of the slump (even though the slump really just represents reality).
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Exactly
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a good question.
I would hope the Giants don’t make a trade in this instance, unless it’s to get rid of Bengie (which would be tough with that slash line)…
But this is a whole other question: how bad will Bengie have to perform to be considered useless by the Giants?
The pitchers would have to start complaining about him to management.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
What do they know? Most of them pitched in AAA, ergo, they’re no good.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
But that's clearly not the case now...
…because anyone who’s any good is in the majors.
Best of luck, G.P.
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by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
depends how many DINGERZ he has
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But if Bengie were hitting, say, like he did last year (.265/.285/.442)
Bochy on Money hitting 4th this year: “He did a good job there last year.”
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Well..fine, I disagree with your obviously sarcastic comment, too! :p
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, then I disagree on principle. What did you say, anyway? Oh yeah…that’s about what I was thinking. The Giants painted themselves into a corner with Buster and what they do now…who knows.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
It’s really hard to say what will happen at this point. Let’s just pretend for a minute that Sabean actually knows Posey is more than ready, and he’s just waiting for the arb clock’s sake. What happens if they call him up? I imagine Whiteside is sent down.
Now what happens to the playing time? If Benjie is still hitting I assume he’ll still get the majority of starts. Is Huff suddenly going to get bounced from the lineup? Is posey gonna get 2 starts a week or something?
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
I really don’t think they’ll call him up until he’s going to be playing at least 5 times a week.
I don’t know what Molina will have to hit for them to think Buster should start over him (unless an injury happens, which would make it a moot point.)
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THIS
It’s going to take an injury or a prolonged slump to get Bengie/Whitey out of there to make way for Buster.
It would take an injury. Slumps will always be played out of when it’s a gritty vet.
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Yeah, Bengie would given an extension so he could hit his way out of a slump
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I really don’t think they’ll call him up until he’s going to be playing at least 5 times a week.
I agree. And I really hope you’re right.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
After spending so much time talking about how he needs to play every day to get experience catching, to call him up right after the Super 2 deadline and then not play him regularly would seem to REVEAL THEIR TRUE MOTIVES!!
Then again, when has that ever stopped them?
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
If you’ll go with me on Friday night.
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
If you live with me I’ll die for you and this compromise.
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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Of our lives
Tomorrow is too late to pretend
Everything’s alright
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I really think Sabean is incredibly stubborn and to prove his point, he won’t call up Buster all year.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
This very well may be the case.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean's m.o. of constantly saving face
will doom this franchise’s future chances of success.
Wait, this has been happening for a while. Carry on…
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by SoFa King Mike on May 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No trophy in the case EVER on Sabean's watch
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone knows we play to avoid meaningless games, not to win championships
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by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Its just a troubling trend with the Giants
They truly do not understand anything about numbers – Brian Sabean actually believes he is that much better than not only us “lunatic fringe” types, but most other teams in baseball (I believe the Mets and the Giants were noted as the two least statistically friendly organizations in baseball) towards learning basic stuff such as
1) OBP / BB are good – you can’t score runs if you don’t get on base
2) A minor league track record is a decent (but not perfect) predictor of major league performance
3) RBI’s don’t fucking matter, no matter what your granpappy used to tell you
4) BORK BELIEF: Young players can’t play until they’ve proven themselves, while veterans get much longer leashes – ergo, play veterans through everything, and young-uns only if they immediately start of on a hot streak.
To this day, I shudder to think what would happen if Pablo had gone for 1-for-30 or something – buried in AAA to this day I’m sure.
More importantly, it amazes me how many Giants fans (including a few of the newer ones here) buy this crap – the idea that complaining about this when we’re doing well is kvetching or “jeez enjoy the moment”. I, unfortunately, am predisposed to rooting for this team, and it kills me how much they give away in their stupidity – the marginal gains of improving the problem spots on the Giants are so great that its depressing to watch when they ignore those.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on May 10, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I Rec'd this excellent post
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
being one of the “new people” here, and also one of the people that is basically saying enjoy the moment, some of the decisions that are made make me want to blast Bochy and Sabean as much as the next person on McC….
but being so pessimistic that we can’t even enjoy being close to having the best record in baseball (if not for a few meltdowns) is utterly ludicrous. i know we as Giants fans have been let down before, maybe I am an overly optimistic person i don’ t know, but I do not understand that logic.
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
I don’t think any of us are not enjoying the success. I think it’s simply a matter of the one of the main principles of drama. Contentment isn’t good entertainment. The Giants are good entertainment, but talking about how much fun we’re having is less interesting than talking about drama. We’re all having fun. We’re all loving these wins. We’re just going to talk more about the other stuff because it’s actually more engaging material for discussions than everybody saying “wasn’t that awesome?” “Yeah, that was cool.”
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Things are going well
The guys we need to get hurt are getting hurt. Just need DeRosa to go down and then how much can Bochy really screw things up?
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
I know you don't believe in jinxes and such
but please don’t ask that question. It WILL be answered.
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
Does anyone else think that Freddy never wanted to be a Giant? He grew up in LA, likely a Dodger fan, then got pissed off because the Pirates weren’t nice to him and his friend and then he gets traded here. Meh…conspiracies.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez professed last year that he was excited to be involved in a playoff race for once in his life, and be involved in a rivalry of such a magnitude as the one that exists between the Giants and Dodgers. After a career in Pittsburgh, he is hungry to compete.
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And right after saying this, he sprained his tongue.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I heard somewhere that he had a Pirates dufflebag at Spring Training. It (wrongly) led people to belive he’s still pining for Pittsburgh. I agree wtih jponry (who doesn’t, amirite?) — I think he really wants to play and is truly injured.
He pulled his duffle muscle in spring training.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That would have worked better if I left the word “bag” in there.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's just fragile
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't be silly-Dye is too expensive
We’ll get Byrnes
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K.F.I.S.T.F.
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They finally came out and said it
Minor league track records mean nothing. All the clues were there. I guess i just found it hard to believe that a major league organization would actually have this outlook.
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by delorean on May 10, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Todd Linden [or plug in any homegrown position player pre-08] Factor
Why couldn’t you have been just a bit better Todd, why???
/Win the inning
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by Scooter Ellis on May 10, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
The finally came out and said it...
On multiple occasions now!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
oh sabes.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Took me a while to find it, but when I did, it was from McC
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
oh wow was that the extension of the espn board from years ago?
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lol i used to post there as JCTIAO
oh man memories.
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I would respect Bochy's decisions more if he would...
…take more care not to look like a guy who keeps all his worldly possessions in a shopping cart.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Rainman's Answer
Does anyone really think that 30 scattered at-bats can possibly be more meaningful than 2,324 at-bats in the minors, in which Whiteside hit .244/.288/.393 for his career?
For the long haul? Absolutely not. For now while Whiteside is hot equally absolutely yes.
hot equally absolutely yes
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
lol WTF?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
pics please
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by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
How is a guy who plays every fifth day “hot”
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think this is Grant’s post. Sure, it was a baffling move to bat Whiteside 5th but it was just one game. The problem is the overall philosophy regarding minor league statistics.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Can’t. Stop. Staring…
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by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Walking track to cockandballs?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Just like how Guillermo Mota was hot
and Romo is cold.
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VELEZ IS OUT OF OPTIONS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But . . .
. . . if I understand this aright, they can still send him up and down like a yo-yo all they want for the rest of this season. Beware!
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You do.
And they can.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I read the original fanshot/post about these now-infamous comments and realized one thing: Sabean and Bochy really are diametrically opposed to everything most fans here believe in.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
This is why I have been mulling my allegiance over. I’ve been considering giving it to the end of the current contracts. World Series or they are gone and I stay. No World Series and more Bochbean and Yankees here I come. Whether I do it, doubtful probably maybe who knows but I am pretty fucking sick of this management team.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
So is continuing to root for Sabean…
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But to change allegiances! To the Yankees! Vapors.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
But then I’d experience winning in baseball. It’s kind of hard to comprehend…makes my brain go all swimmy. What is more likely is I’d just stop rooting for laundry and just root for the individuals.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I’ve been all about the individuals since forever. Yet at the same time, I never pay attention to the minor leagues. Hey, can I be Giants GM?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
How good are you at kicking tires?
Complete this sentence: at the end of ???
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
the road
Still I can’t let go
It’s so natural
You belong to me
I belong to you
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Good response, but we were looking for “the day.” Yes, the day, for our parting prize you get: more years of frustration and a feeling of impotence.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
more years of frustration and a feeling of impotence.
LOL, but actually, maybe I don’t care as much about the Giants, but I don’t feel like this. I feel for other people who feel like this, but I don’t.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
That’s good. I’m just sick of caring too much. Makes me grumpy as can easily be seen if you look at my post history.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
at the end of propellering wildly, it’s important to rest for at least a few minutes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
How did I do?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Good response, but we were looking for "the day." Yes, the day, for our parting prize you get: more years of frustration and a feeling of impotence.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But then I’d experience winning in baseball.
I think that is the definition of bandwagoning. I mean, a real man would never..EVER.. be caught wearing pinstripes.
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
that man…he’s gonna eat that dog
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
THATS RAYCESSST
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I thought it was just Asian Cuisine.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
/holds out shovel.
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by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
later that night
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty much where I am. NBA is just awful and has been for years. I would like to see Lebron win, but I don’t really “care.”
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I grew up a Sacramento Kings fan, and when they finally got good, starting in ‘99, they became the biggest group of whiners I’d ever seen. The ref’ing “job” against the Lakers was bad enough, but the constant bickering with officials and consistently soft play just made me go “Screw it.” They were the only reason I watched the NBA (after Jordan left) that it didn’t matter to me if I saw another game so long as they were considered professionals.
They did get screwed over pretty badly.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
27 free throws.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
+1
To this day NBA fans I meet out of state bring up that up when I tell them I follow the Kings.
“From the Sacramento area, eh? Follow the Kings?”
“Yeah”
“Ooooooooh. That L.A. series, man.”
Fuck that guy.
that really was soul crushing.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Seriously. That was, like, the worst week of my life. I had law school finals, my car got totaled (not my fault), my boyfriend broke up with me and then that series happened. I cried for, like, 2 days.
ouch
that’s rough
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
and then later that year
there was the whole Anaheim incident. Seriously, what the fuck was up with Game 6s that year? Cursed I tells ya.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
The year started with the Tuck Game.
Not that I’m a Raiders fan (not a hater, either), but that was a delicious flavor of suck, too.
I was a Raider fan.
Still am, l suppose, in the same way I’m a Giant fan – they were the first pro team I was aware of and I never felt like waving anybody else’s banner.
But boy, have they succeeded at failing.
Actually, the only pro franchise I actually substituted my attention to over a Bay Area team would be…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, they also lost the Super Bowl a few months after that WS. My mom was going through some health issues at the time too. Anything else you want to talk about to cheer me up?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
you ain't sleepin' tonight!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope you die in a fire.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
ha ha. lifetime Lakers fan will be enjoying another playoff series victory tonight…
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Kobe Bryant.
Fuck Shaquille O’Neal
Fuck Phil Jackson
Fuck Rick Fox (twice)
Fuck Sasha Vujacic
Fuck Robert Horry
Fuck Derek Fisher
Fuck Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney and Ted Bernhardt – I’m still waiting for them to have their jerseys retired at Staples.
Fuck Every Laker fan who comes to Arco Arena, wears his hat sideways and stands up and cheers with his arms out and his back to the floor whenever Kobe scores a basket.
Oh, and Fuck Jack Nicholson, Dyan Cannon, and that silver haired douchebag wearing the snakeskin boots.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
This is an impressive list.
I hope you got tested.
by Every6thDay on May 10, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I notice you didn’t say “Fuck all those championships”…
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck all those LA dbags who boooed Bonds but cheer Koby.
It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant
And Justin Beiber
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Phil Jackson
Most over-rated coach of any sport?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF THE ZEN
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
YOU CANNOT ARGUE WITH RINGS
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I just scrub them off the bathtub wall.
It’s interesting, and maybe someone has a theory (other than Dodger fans haven’t evolved to keyboard mastery yet) as to why Laker fans are trolling Bright Side of the Sun – the Suns’ fanblog – yet the Dodger childreneaters leave us pretty much alone.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If you have more rings than fingers, the laws of the universe dictate that you cannot be over-rated
Adopted Nut: Paraparaumu, New Zealand native, Andy Skeels
I could have won all of those rings had I coached those teams
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Hey, you, Michael – put the ball in the basket
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
“Smithers, massage my brain! … You, Strawberry! Hit a home run!”
“You got it, skip.”
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I was JUST thinking about this episode today...
“Strawberry, hit the showers.”
“But I hit NINE homeruns today, Skip!”
“Yes, but you’re a left-handed hitter and the pitcher is left-handed. So I’m going to put in a right-hander. It’s called playing the percentages. It’s what smart managers do to win ball games.”
BORK'D
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Borkage
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe a bit over rated, but having the best players certainly helps and he has won a LOT of championships.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Parcells
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
I sometimes think Torre is vastly overrated, but then I think about TLR… and THEN I think about Dusty Baker… that’s when I kick an infant.
Eh, I don't know
I watched him take a Cowboys franchise that was pretty dang lost in mediocracy and systematically set them on a path to perennial championship contenders in a pretty short turn around.
but he was supposed to bring a Super Bowl championship and they haven’t gotten close (thankfully)
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That I chalk up to his team's crappy on field performance.
He made them a contender, but he cannot take the snaps for them.
This coming from a niners fan.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yes he is.
Let’s see Jackson win something without the best player(s) in the league.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
Well they did win it last year and I wouldn’t say Kobe was the best player in the league.
He’s obviously had talented players but he’s also done a pretty good job of managing those players who were often difficult to deal with. Jordan was psychotically competiive and most of his teammates hated him, Pippen was moody, Grant was resentful of Jordan, Rodman was a lunatic, Shaq was lazy, Kobe was selfish…
All championship coaches have had great players. I’m not sure how you can argue that he doesn’t deserve to be in the discussion of greatest coaches of all time.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Chuck Daly won without the best players. Isiah Thomas was a good player, but he was by no means a top 5 player in the league with Bird, Magic, Jordan, Olajuwon, Ewing, Malone, Stockton… etc etc etc.
He won with defense and the players bought into his plan, and he beat teams with great players on them.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
He didn’t have the best players, but he had a team 7 deep of very good ones. Or was it 8 deep. He also had Rodman when he was young and still scored.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They won it last year.
With Kobe (if not the best, then top three at worst), Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, and Beinum.
What did the Lakers do before Beinum took his step in development and they got Gasol?
Look, it’s not just that all championship teams have great players. Look at Jackson’s teams.
The 6 rings with the Bulls came with two of the top 50 players ever (including arguably THE best ever). This says nothing of the great supporting cast for those teams. What did Jackson do when Jordan retired?
The 3 in a row with the Lakers came with two more of the 50 best players in history and probably the top two in the league at that time. What happened when Shaq left?
I’m sure he’s a good coach. But to put forth his ten rings as proof that he’s this unbelievably great coach is silly.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Only 3 coaches in NBA history have half the titles Jackson has.
Red Auerbach who had the 2nd best player in history on his team and several other hall of famers/top 50 guys. From wiki: "Nine players who played for Auerbach have been inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame-Ramsey, Cousy, Sharman, Heinsohn, Russell, K. C. Jones, Havlicek, Sam Jones and Bailey Howell."
-Pat Riley – Magic, Kareem, Worthy. Dwane Wade, Shaq, the refs.
-John Kundla – I believe he had George Mikan who was considered the best player of his day. But I admit I don’t know much abou this era.
Winning the championship is hard, even with great players. If you win 10 titles in 20 years you deserve a lot of credit, so I don’t know how you can call him overrated.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Fuck every Laker fan that didn’t attend the Nick the Brick & Eddie Jones days but then grabbed up all the tickets once Shaq signed on. Biggest bandwagon in the history of sports. Fuck Laker fans. Fuck Staples Center. Fuck Shaq. Fuck Kobe.
That felt good.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I sensed something like this was going to happen...
the last two minutes of the game, I thought the Kings’ lead would evaporate. Musta been the Giants’ fan in me.
/his name was Dale
sorry
couldn’t help it..
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW, that's just not very nice
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
While this is true
Man they did get jobbed by the ref’s against the Lakers.
/not a basketball fan.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
No need to wait around… go now.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
No World Series and more Bochbean and Yankees here I come.
Can I be there to watch your head explode when Sabean takes the job as Yankees GM? :-)
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I will send a fruit basket to the Steinbrenner's if this happens
And I will smoke cigars and read Baseball America with Theo Epstein
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on May 10, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I see Sabean as having George Costanza’s job.
It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant
by jhiat00 on May 10, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
George Costanza is smarter
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL…that would be awesome.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
no, that won't work
You can stop believing in God, but you can’t stop being a Catholic, if you know what I mean.
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
haha so true
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think we need a ninja edit of the post
“I like the guy, I really do, and it’s not a big deal if a backup catcher isn’t a good hitter. But there’s a scrap of evidence that Eli Whiteside is a good hitter, and he should hit anywhere but in the eighth slot when he plays”
That or I completely missed the point…
We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
I was utterly elated to see Whiteside batting 5th
because it meant Molina was not in the lineup. Tunnel vision FTW!
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
When should you trust the numbers?
It can be tough to say sometimes. Numbers, as Grant so neatly pointed out, can not properly encapsulate or represent a player’s performance. And players can improve. I think of Andres Torres as a good example, though he might be the exception the proves the rule. Andres Torres is a career minor leaguer, who had a limited stint with the had played in less than 100 major league games after floating between the Tigers, White Sox, Rangers, Twins, and Cubs before being signed by the Giants in 2009.
His career minor line in 8 seasons at AAA was .270/.350/.410. And yet so far in his tenure as a Giant, he has scraped together a .270/.356/.483 in about 250 at-bats. In a similar stint with the Tigers at the major league level from 2002-2004, his line was .214/.264/.282. His brief stint (21 PAs) with Texas netted him an OPS of .401. There’s no reason to expect he should put up league average or better offense in his tenure with the Giants so far. But he seems to have turned out as more or less exactly that: league average.
Players like Andres Torres are a pleasant surprise. Guys who stick with it, keep riding those buses in the minors, and finally develop an approach that will make them valuable as a major league player, even if it is only as a 4th outfielder or backup catcher. Whiteside and Torres have very similar histories, after all. But they are not the same, and to expect league average production from Eli Whiteside is somewhat ridiculous – he will probably never be anything more than a lousy eighth place hitter. And if he plays over his head, then… well, once again, it’s a pleasant surprise. But 34 PAs won’t explain away the fact that he was a .240 hitter in Fresno and a .230 hitter in San Francisco last year.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Torres has been a nice surprise
But the only reason he’s on the team now is because he got ridiculously hot in spring training two years ago. Otherwise, whatever approach he developed that has allowed him to be successful goes for naught.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The nicest surprise about Torres is that they actually seem to be aware that he’s a backup.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The nicest surprise about Torres is he’s hot.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
The thing about Torres is that he is Marvin Benard
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Dreamy
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/takes 10 steps backwards on a fly to shallow CF
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
/receives nice fat contract based on 45 ABs
But Sabean isn’t an idiot.
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
ALL HIS FAULT
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on May 10, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
OH CRAYAP
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on May 10, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
classic
proud papa of todd wellemeyer...say hello to 13 wins and a second place finish in comeback player of the year
Yahoo FFL champ 2009
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
best quote of the regular season (so far) by a mccovenite "so you’re saying Einstein is no better than a AA physicist now? Talk about inflation." tyrranoman
by Headhunter Rollins on May 10, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
See, I always thought Bochy was Grendel, and Sabean was Grendel’s mother. The prospects were the thanes getting munched on.
This scenario leaves us as Hrothgar, awaiting our Beowulf to show up.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Trade bait?
Could this be an elaborate ploy to make Whiteside more tradable for when Posey reaches the majors?
I’m going to answer my own question and say no.
Whiteside IS the definition of replacement level player.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I don't even think he is that good
I think if he was DFA’d he’d go unclaimed
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
K.F.I.S.T.F.
Hoping for BowkerMania to get consistent playing time at AT&T Park
I bet you the Rangers claim him
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I almost wish our management never had press conferences.
All it ever does is infuriate me.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
This was put in by my boss before I posted, but I found it. Here's what you missed:
It hurts like a llama with a stun gun. It shocks you first, but later becomes quite the enjoyable experience. I remember the first time I was shocked by a llama with a stun gun. My arms went all "tingly" and I suddenly had the urge to run out into the middle of centerfield during a Phillies game and sing my own version of Madonna’s "Like a Virgin." What a beautiful experience!
Then there’s the "lama haters." They HATE llamas and ban those who are fond of them from blogging on interactive sites. Truly un-American! What happened to ‘freedom of speech?’ Oh,.. he’s a llama blogger.. ewwww.. Ban him! Send him to the back of the bus!! Don’t let him drink from our water fountain.. He looks different..
… Yeah,.. I’ve heard it all before.. You’re NO DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THEM!!!! Llama hater!
by Grant Brisbee on May 10, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
YES!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I wish he would just create his own account already.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
lulz
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I'm teaching about llamas right now
Well, according to the California state standards for seventh grade history, I am teaching about the Inca Empire.
But I know what is truly important.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
GRANT IS ANTI-LLAMA!
WE’RE LLAMAS
WE’RE HERE
GET USED TO IT
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My llama’s name is Lorenzo.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I call mine Dali
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
really makes you think
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Then there’s the “lama haters.” They HATE llamas and ban those who are fond of them from blogging on interactive sites.
You mean the Chinese government? Yeah, totally. But you accidently hit the L key twice the second time you typed it.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
HE'S BACK!
AND IT’S BEAUTIFUL!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
why does bork add y to everyones name
moar runz n stuff
by wanna Ishikawa? on May 10, 2010 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
Because he's...
…wait for it…
…balmy?"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
well, one game is a small sample size, too. It’s not like he’s been anointed the 5-spot for the rest of the season.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
O <—- The loop
o
I< <—- you
/ \
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I think what he’s saying is that you wouln’d fit inside of the loop.
It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant
You are below the loop.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
BULGING DICS (sic)
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ugh, not the point.
It’s more of a “WHY WAS HE PUT THERE ONCE TO BEGIN WITH?”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
And Bowker was annointed the starting Right Fielder
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I'm glad that nickname is taken
…otherwise Mrs. Goofus would start calling me that
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I’d be more concerned if his nickname were ‘Tighty Whitey’
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Sunday
In Sunday’s lineup, the only beef I had was Nate hitting behind Whiteside. I can understand the logic of keeping pressure off the “kids” (Downs and Rohlinger) by keeping them down in the lineup, but Nate’s speed and superior hitting would have played better in front of Eli.
Perhaps Bochy didn’t like the lefty/lefty matchup as much as he liked the mighty Whiteside against Perez, but I still would have liked to see Nate up in that lineup.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
LOL lefties cannot hit lefties
AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS
Whiteside Career v. LHP: .143/.189/.143/.332
Nate Career v LHP: .391/.427/.574/1.001
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Bochy is really taking this lefties can’t hit lefties thing too far.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Also, big ups to Natto for sponsoring Eli’s BR page.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
It's fun going to the Giants pages and see who sponsors them.
Bay City Ball sponsors Bowker’s page
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
My Penis spans an entire decade of GIANT team sponsorships
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Like the Fred Lewis page?
Many of Fred’s Biggest Fans sponsor(s) this page.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
To reiterate: I don’t really care if Bochy says “I think that Whiteside should hit cleanup today because I had a dream that it would work.” Lineups don’t make enough of a difference to care that much. But when he says, “I don’t care about minor league stats; Whiteside’s good enough to be a middle of the order hitter right now,” I start to twitch because I’ve always ranted about the Giants’ disregard for minor league stats.
I don’t think it matters how many times you reiterate it. When people see the “Whiteside batting fifth” headline, they won’t even read the rest of the post. They’ll just jump straight to “Grant thinks batting Whiteside fifth was the dumbest thing he’s ever seen.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
and that he’s anti-Llama
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is really the problem
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
FRED LEWIS IS ANTI-LLAMA
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
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By pinch-hitting for Whiteside, Bruce Bochy implicitly acknowledged (rightfully so) that Whiteside wasn’t as good as a guy hitting .200.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on May 10, 2010 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
We've since seen
That by pinch-hitting Bowker for Whiteside, Bochy implicitly acknowledge that Whiteside isn’t left-handed.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
this is what bugs me
“Now, in other places where you don’t have a deeper or more consistent budget, I can buy the strict clock. But we can’t be on a strict clock. Shoot, we’re trying to get back to winning ways and get to the playoffs, and everybody understands it.”
Playoffs? fuck the playoffs. that was great in ‘87, now it’s time to win a World Series. With this pitching staff, you could almost get through the post season with 4-5 pitchers: Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez…and Wilson.
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ps—that was Sabean being quoted in todays Baggarly article
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no straightforward formula for winning a World Series. There really isn’t. If you have great pitching, getting to the playoffs means you have a better than average chance of advancing. Too, in case you haven’t followed along, the Giants are not in the business of winning championships, only remaining competitive. Winners generate revenue. But to “buy a championship” would cut into profits. The organization is content with fielding a competitive team and hope they catch enough breaks to win a championship one year.
gee, I wonder where they could get another bat without giving up too much?
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
too good an opportunity too waste...
’62—not enough pitching
’71—not enough pitching
’87—not enough pitching
’89—not enough pitching
’00—not enough pitching
’02—not enough pitching
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s what I’m afraid of
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS makes me want to vomit, but it's what I'm expecting too
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They actually had pretty decent pitching in 89
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they had long season pitching, not so great in a short series against good hitters
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
’62 was one hit shy, no?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
whatever; the Giants history in SF is not enough pitching. Now we have it, don’t want to see it wasted.
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
This is probably my greatest fear with the Giants, too.
I’d compare this to 1993. It was the only year we had Clark, Williams, Bonds. A west coast murderer’s row. I don’t think we can actually blame that team for not winning 104 games but the fact remains that we an an amazing 3-4-5 and it didn’t take us anywhere, and the threesome was busted up after the season, and the Giants went almost nowhere for ten years.
We’ve been lucky enough to have Lincecum and Cain a few years now, and if the stars align with Zito (and even Sanchez), we could win it even with the piddling offense we have. BUT, instead of putting this offense out there, it sure would be nice if we could back up this (potentially) once-in-a-generation rotation with some bats and get us back to the Series. It’s nice that we have Lincecum locke dup for now but if he’s just the 2010s version of Barry Bonds- a lone, dominant superstar surrounded by AAAAers, well, we can call this decade a loss.
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by troymccluresf on May 10, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Or how about
The amazingness of Barry Bonds, particularly coupled with the best offensive 2nd baseman in baseball and Ellis Burks.
Such a waste.
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Bill Mueller wasn’t half bad, either. And JT.
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Yeah, that was a helluva year. I was an usher at Pac Bell that year. The job actually kinda sucked (basically made sure no one could act like they were at a baseball game), but that place was insane that year.
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by troymccluresf on May 10, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
without doing an in-depth statistical analysis (anyone?), I’d guess that it’s a lot more difficult to get an awesome staff together than a big hitting team. Lots of teams with hitting don’t get far enough, but teams with great pitching can go far, even if they don’t have the great hitting to go with it.
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that fantasy = reality, but there’s a reason that experts advise you to wait to draft arms.
Pitching is less predictable and more prone to injury.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Just so.
In a paper back around 15 years ago, I noted that—albeit speaking in a very broad-brush way—the ratio of potentially useful batters to potentially useful pitchers (“useful” for a team wanting to go to post-season) was roughly 2:1. Obviously, that ratio will swing quite a bit depending on the extent to which runs scored are emphasized over runs yielded, but at a reasonable balance, it’s crudely indicative. (There are also other reasons why it’s better to emphsize offense, but you go with what you have.)
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Hi Owlcroft, I want to say that I appreciate your thoughtful approach. I’m wondering about the 2:1 ratio, though, because the makeup of a typical roster is roughly 2:1, batters to pitchers. If that’s true, then wouldn’t a GM just stock their minors with the best players for each position, regardless?
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh?
A 2:1 ratio on a 25-man roster would be 16:9 or 17:8. I don’t think there’s any team in baseball that carries fewer than 11 pitchers, so the actual ratios are no more than 14:11 and frequently 13:12.
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you.
Sorry, I see i didn’t express myself clearly. Let me try anew.
To win a certain number of games, one needs a combination of runs scored and runs allowed, as from the “Pythagorean” or some similar calculation. Clearly, there is a very large set of R/OR pairings that will work, because one more run scored is just the same as one fewer runs given up. Of course, those pairs with extremes of one or the other stat are not realistic, but even of the practicable, there is a large set.
If one sets a given goal for wins, say 100, and then selects a plausible particular R/OR pair, one then has definite goals for both the team hitting and the team pitching. For a particular R/OR pairing that somewhat emphasized offense, I surveyed all the pitchers and batters then in MLB to see what fraction of each had value numbers (of what sort is not crucial, since this is broad-brush) that would fit on a team trying to achieve the wanted scored and allowed goals. The fraction of batters that would be “useful” was roughly double the fraction of pitchers that would be.
(In fact, I did this for more than one set of R/OR values, but the details are not germane here.)
As I say, all broad-brush stuff, but sufficient, I think, to suggest that even when offense is being emphasized, it is substantially easier to find suitable batting talent than pitching talent; and when pitching is emphasized, the ratios become even more striking.
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the point being that they could bring up Posey and it would cost NOTHING.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn’t do anything when they brought him up last year.
It’s conjoined fail, attached at the fiasco. - Grant
He needs more experience against ML pitching before he can face ML pitching
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effective bench sitter, actually
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unless he hits super 2 status
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But we can’t be on a strict clock. Shoot, we’re trying to get back to winning ways and get to the playoffs, and everybody understands it."
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Costs nothing now and don’t have to make a trade.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
but again
the offense isn’t exactly hurting at any of the positions he’d play.
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it will be when Molina reverts to normal.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Which, judging by his history, should be pretty close to the super 2 deadline.
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That's interesting . . .
. . . because in a sense every batter is at normal almost all the time. It’s the results of applying his skills and abilities that can vary quite a bit, not the actual skills and abilities themselves. A pair of dice have intrinsic probabilities, but in a given set of rolls, the most bizarre sequences can be seen; that does not reflect changes in the dice. The point is that BM, or anyone, can go from great to awful between one PA and the next, because it isn’t the man that changes, only his luck. That is why all decisions have to be made on the basis of cumulative data. (BM: career BABIP .278, BABIP to date in 2010, .347; they can stop falling in at any time.)
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but there’s a lot more variability in humans than in dice. Also, as a manager, do you manage the 162 games in its entirety, or do you manage each moment? Having success using statistics to manage would require such forethought in order to capitalize on the strategy selected.
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
A sempiternal question:
. . . there’s a lot more variability in humans than in dice.
The question in, um, question is whether players, or at least batters, can be treated (well, not treated, but used) as if they are dice. Or, to be more modern, if we program a computer with a given batter’s presumed performance levels—hits, walks, SOs, XBHs, the whole magilla—and, in effect, play Strat-O-Matic with randomizing, will we get results that pretty much match reality? Or do the “dice” really have memory?
My understanding and belief is that outside physical issues, yes, players do pretty much perform as if they were Strat-O-Matic cards. In theory, a man who hits .250 over 600 ABs could go 150 for 150 to start the season and never get another hit all year—but that is wildly improbable, which is why we don’t see it in either simulations or the real world. But a performance like, say, BM’s hot start this year is well within the bounds of what is plausibly probable based on an actual ability much lower than the results. So, vice versa, is a cold start like DeRosa’s. What a very good deal of experience teaches us is that over the course of a full season (if a player is simply allowed to play on, and not diddled with by his manager) things will tend toward the expected norms.
That is the true form of what the layman calls “The Law of Averages” but the mathematician calls, much more appropriately, “The Law of Large Numbers”. The Law does not—as many foolish casino gamblers seem to think—somehow “require” that runs of one sort (say “red” at the roulette wheel) must eventually be “made up for” by runs in the other direction. What the Law actually says is that as the number of trials gets ever larger, the significance of runs as a percentage simply diminishes.
Toss a coin 10 times and get 8 heads: it can happen. The naif thinks that now tails are more likely on the next few runs, but not so. What happens is that after, say, 100 tosses (that include the first 10), we probably end up with 53 heads—that is, the next 90 tosses are 45 each heads and tails. Nothing has been “made up” or “compensated for”: but the difference is much less significant. In a thousand tosses, 503 heads would be considered virtually perfect evenness.
Given that there are roughly 400 batters in the majors, it is virtually guaranteed by chance that a few will end up with numbers wildly better than or worse than their abilities merit, even over a full season. Who those lucky and unlucky few will be in a given year is random and thus unpredictable, but we know they’ll be there somewhere. And we know just as surely that all the pundits, and managers, and GMs, and fans, will be expostulating wildly about the causes for things that are not, in reality, effects.
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Also a possibility that super 2 may not exist in a few years.
Something horribly worse could. Yay labor agreements!
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that is true
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What is talking about with a strict clock?
Is he talking giving prospects a certain amount of time before benching or demoting them?
If so, then that is stupid. We had two or three years where we were obviously not going to be good. That was the time to let the kids play. They didn’t.
And no, I am not talking about last year as part of the two-three year span.
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He's talking about Posey
The “strict clock” he’s talking about refers to super-2 considerations. He’s saying they want to put the best team on the field, and that service time is not the reason they are keeping Posey in AAA.
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Ah, I see
Thanks for helping me be lazy.
I’m actually not that mad about this, then. Sure, Posey’s a good hitter but how much better would he be than the people he replaces?
They aren’t benching Bengie and Bengie’s actually hitting well, right now, anyway.
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Gotta get to the playoffs first
before you can win a World Series.
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that’s your protip?
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Captain Obvious to the rescue!
Actually, I’d exceeded my quota of Sabean bashing for the day. Just saying I don’t have any problem with that particular statement.
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But that’s not the only explanation: they might be arrogant instead.
Yes. This is exactly the problem with cavemen like Sabean and Colletti. Now, to be fair, both cavemen and enlightened-Moneyball-stat-people-like-us are both probably “arrogant” in the sense of thinking that they are right and that the other side is wrong. But here is the (very big) difference between the two types of arrogance.
Moneyball-types know everything that cavemen know (e.g. chemistry, veteranism, gamerocity, dirt, knowinghowtowin, RBIs, BA, Wins, etc.), PLUS a lot of other things. Why? Because they have made an intentional decision to expand their minds and be open to new thinking that might challenge “common knowledge” about the game.
Cavemen know ONLY chemistry, veteranism, etc. They know NOTHING ELSE. Why? Because they are intellectually lazy/uncurious and have made an intentional decision not to learn anything new about the game, because “they already know everything there is to know”. (See for example: Morgan, Joe).
moneyball is already passe
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it's not.
None of the original principles is any less true today than it was when Sandy Alderson, with some help, was developing what many years later came to be dubbed, by one author, “Moneyball”. The idea that “market inefficiencies” are what it was all about is what’s misleading people—in part because the A’s have shifted their emphasis to “market inefficiencies” and in part because that’s just how Michael Lewis—who wasn’t around when the whole thing was starting—chose to describe it. But the working paper that opened Billy Beane’s eyes wasn’t titled “Moneyball”, or “Market Efficiency”, it was titled Winning Baseball, and sub-titled “An objective, numerical, analytic analysis of the principles and practices involved in the design of a winning baseball team.”
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Hmmmm
I wonder who wrote that?
We should get Deadspin to interview that guy.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In a way . . .
. . .I’m sorry that ever happened. The brief I received from them—and it was they who came to me—was to tell what it was like to be there and then, and to dispel any of what I perceived as false impressions in current circulation. Perhaps foolishly, I did, or tried to do, just those things. The result was a number of rather unpleasant personal remarks about my being a grumpy old sore loser, or words to that effect. Had I wanted renown, I daresay that even back in the day I could have had some; but with the glaring counter-example of Mike Gimbel still then fresh in many minds, I just basically became a secret agent. That was fine with me: I am sufficiently satisfied with myself (what Nero Wolfe called “a robust ego”) that I don’t need to run round and find people to tell me nice things. The one and only bitter dart in my chest is that the A’s never gave me a ring. That was all I ever really wanted out of the whole business.
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Well, shit. I had a nice response to this about fads in baseball management and the recent successes of the Red Sox and Rays, but the site decided to eat it. Oh well.
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OT: For those going to the Fresno Grizzlies game tonight
I must say, I am truly jealous.
Because tonight is Alfonso Rebeiro Night at the ballpark.
Argyle sweaters and Tom Jones songs galore!
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I see that as the 20th on the promotion schedule
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Yeah it was a day game today.
YOU LIE!
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DeRosa on KNBR right now
saying he thinks something is wrong with his wrist cuz he doesn’t understand why he sucks now
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions
I was paraphrasing. He said things like How does a .280 hitter become a .190 hitter. I don’t know why things aren’t working how they did before.
It really sounded like he is now old but his mind isn’t old and things don’t work the way they used to.
He is done.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Giants Medical staff.
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Yes, exactly
Not to mention some guy whose name I can’t remember now who may play second base for the Giants sometime.
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by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Frank Santana or something like that
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Something like that
Except this second baseman can hit a little bit
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Fruitbody Serendipity!
Fructose Sugarfake
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WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
One of those
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
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by troymccluresf on May 10, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMMIT SUSAN
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by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s way too early to just call him done.
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People were saying Winn was done around this time last year, weren’t they?
DeRosa was this bad last year. He’s at an age where a lot of guys are already done. The steroid era is over, careers will be ending sooner.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not willing to call him done yet. He’s not worth the money, but I bet at the end of the year he hits close to his career average.
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I hope you are right. I hope more that Bochy doesn’t believe you and sits him soon. DeRosa w/ 500 PA at a sub 600 OPS is going to kill us.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
thing is
if he does hit about his career average, he’ll pretty much be worth the money.
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not as a left fielder
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sure he will
he plays plus D in the OF
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wait what?
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He's saying that DeRosa's good D in left will provide value enough to make him worth 6 million
provided it comes along with an offensive rebound, which I also expect.
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PLUS D?
MORE LIKE D+!
AMIRITE?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
The only plus D I see DeRosa playing
is in the bedroom. Holy Heidi.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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What is this stuff?
Everyone mocks Bochean for drawing big conclusions from small data samples, then writes a man off because he’s had bad numbers in 100 PAs. The guy’s career BABIP is .308 and so far this year it’s .224. His K rate is nontrivially lower than his career rate, and his walks rate is a hair higher. Keep your confounded pants and shirts on and wait for the balls to stop being At’em balls and start dropping in. He had a fine and consistent career through mid-2009, when he got hurt. His offense is worth about as much and maybe a skosh more than the late, lamented FLewis, whom some around here would apparently sell their sister into slavery to recover. Sheesh. (And he doesn’t get hit on the head by fly balls quite as often.)
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this is rxmeister level reply fail lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not to mention meaningless if DeRosa is injured
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That part is true.
But what is the evidence? DeRosa is not doing himself any favors with his public soul-searching, but I don’t recall that he has actually said “Yes, my wrist hurts bad, and is keping me from hitting right.” It seems to be more a case of “Gee, I’m afraid that maybe my bad memories may be affecting my swing.”
And isn’t the answering of questions like that the reason God created doctors?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Well, he didn’t say the wrist hurts, but he did say that ever since he hurt it he’s been having problems doing things as a batter that he would otherwise take for granted. He said very directly that he’s having a lot of trouble getting inside of anything, and he drew a clear line about when that started happening around his injury.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Just so.
But if he knew that the wrist was, so to speak, defective, you’d think he’d say so. My belief is that he’s hocussed himself into fearing he’ll never hit well again—in short, a head case, not a wrist case.
But time, being a yenta, will tell. . . .
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Some of his hits have been taken away from him too by some bad ass plays. It can’t be too confidence inspiring when a 2nd baseman makes a giant leap out of nowhere to snag a ball rocketing up the middle.
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
I completely blew out my meniscus a few years ago. It doesn’t hurt any more, but I just don’t have the lateral range I once did.
His wrist could be painless, yet not at full strength.
Please hit better, Mark DeRosa.
I think you got that backwards. Man created god. Man created doctors.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he’s 35. The odds of him returning to form aren’t the best, ya know? He is on the downside of his career and sometimes players do fall off cliffs.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes, but rarely.
As recently as less than a year ago, he was still performing at career-normal levels. He is only 35, which today means something quite different from what it meant a generation ago. An aging player’s walks rate and power tend to stay (one of the details steroid nuts ignore is that male muscle strength remains pretty much flat through the 30s, the 40s, and even into the 50s); what happens is that he strikes out more. But DeRosa is not striking out more—rather, less. The odds of his returning to the form of less than a year ago are pretty good if there’s no actual structural damage within the wrist. BamBam needs to play shrink with the man.
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As recently as less than a year ago, he was still performing at career-normal levels.
This was prior to his wrist surgery. I think the jury is still out as to whether this is in his head or in his wrist.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you have a well thought out approach but I think the odds of him returning to form are not good. When I watch him I don’t see anything that makes me feel he is returning to form as an average outfielder again.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF is all this about
Next time instead of trying to be subtle, I’ll just post pics instead. Jesus Fucking Christ.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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pics or it didn't happen.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I think a lot of people would be offended by that picture.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know what is going on here
but I try to made a OMG DEROSA’S WIFE IS HOT joke and somebody decides to jam some random shit about writing off DeRosa after 100 PA down my throat. Never mind that RIGHT HERE I already said I think DeRosa will finish the year hitting his career average. Like, where in this thread did I say anything about judging derosa based on his 100 plate appearances?
What the fuck?
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To be fair
This is MCC
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
LOL
As a result of all of this I had to go do a GIS for “Mark DeRosa Wife”
I see what you were talking about
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on May 10, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark DeRosa wife automatically completed itself in google
lol
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
What about Jesus fucking Christ?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We apologize for the inconvenience:
That was just a convenient place in the subthread to insert the observations. They apply better to some posts a few upthread from what they appeared under.
I am often unsure where in the indent level, so to speak, exactly to insert comments. Putting directly under the closest to relevant often results in them getting dissociated owing to other comments at that indent level separating the reply from the original (as my trigger finger is a lot slower than I think most here are). So I often wait till the subthread is close to wound down to add to it.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t (sort of).
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Yes, that.
Though usually a replied comment falls to the end of a tangential, if you will, I’ve seen them stick in the middle of one and also bounce down to a second tangential. It’s annoying as hell.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 11, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ got run over by a car in MA
Lord Jesus Christ hit by Mass. car
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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LOL Steroid Era is over
sure it is. Keep telling yourself that.
As long as there is science, there will be people brewing up new ways to improve longevity and healing time. Also to make it undetectable.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m not sayign people are done using, I’m just saying the time where everyone is using is done.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Now . . .
. . . if only they could find a way to make it actually do something for ball players. So far, they haven’t.
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A) he wasn’t this bad last year
B) players tend not to just completely fall off cliffs
C) his BABIP is ludicrously low. Like lower than any full time player last year
D) his LD/GB/FB rates are all fine.
He’s not hitting with as much power as he used to, and he seems to be unable to pull the ball in the air for whatever reason, but he’s not NEARLY as bad as he’s been to start the season.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
He’s not hitting with as much power as he used to, and he seems to be unable to pull the ball in the air for whatever reason,
Because he is old and busted.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that he isn’t “this” bad. But I’d be shoked if he pulls an OPS over 700 from here on out. One of the things he said on the radio was something about taking a swing and in his head he is seeing him pull the ball out to left-center but in reality it is just a weak pop up. This tells me his body is not reacting in synch with his brain. So he is either, 1 – done, or 2 – injured. If he doesn’t feel an injury then it isn’t likely this is just going to go away. A check-up might find some weird damage that isn’t painful but would still require rehab.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
his bat doesn’t look whippy, so I was wondering about his wrist, but without having seen him much before this year, who knows.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
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by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
save some for the gf, dude :)
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
he said something vaguely like this last week
more generally though, about not feeling “normal” and the wrist still “not right”.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
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by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
OT -- Are you fucking serious
http://www.techeye.net/internet/woman-says-3d-porno-made-her-pregnant
US military man Erick Jhonson came home from a stint in Iraq to find that his wife was pregnant. Clearly he assumed she had an affair, but his wife Jennifer claims the "other man" was actually someone a little less physical.
It seems he actually buys her story, however. "I see it as suspicious. The films in 3D are very real. With today’s technology, anything is possible," he said.
What’s even more interesting is that both Jennifer and Erick are white, but the child is black. Jeniffer claims the kid looks like the black pornstar she had been ogling. She also claims this was one of the first times she’s watched porn and only went with friends for the 3D effect. TechEye did a survey of one person and found 100 percent would say the same thing in a similar situation.
Jennifer explained that "a month after watching the movie, I started feeling dizzy and the results were positive." That must have been one good porno.
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lol
people are fucking stupid.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I call BS
no mention of where these people are, just american woman.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Well, let’s see:
1 – guys in the military are stupid…that’s believable.
2 – women are sluts…check
3 – 3d movies are awesome…triple check.
This story completely checks out. It has to be true. It passed all the main check criteria.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
i disapprove of the generalization that people in the military are stupid.
Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!
But the part about women you have no problem with?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 11, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, the guy she actually did fuck is three dimensional.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
/more than enough mindless drivel on this site already
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Not enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKuR8RDAzYI
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Deeeep in the Fourth Dimension...
…Lexington Steele grins.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on May 10, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
These things do actually happen.
Obviously you all missed the Mythbusters episode: “Son of a Gun”. Wherein a bullet passed through a guy’s testicles and lodged in the abdomen of a woman 100 yards away – impregnating her.
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 10, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
perhaps if it had lodged in her womb, I would’ve half-believed it.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll tel the people in the Civil War that you disbelieve their story based on semantics
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 10, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
tell’m I said hello, also
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
and, LOL Anatomy
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
So the womb is not in the abdominal area?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ahh, but you’re adding important facts….area
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so: In vertebrates such as mammals the abdomen (belly) constitutes the part of the body between the thorax (chest) and pelvis. The region enclosed by the abdomen is termed the abdominal cavity. (from Wikipedia)
I would say that the womb is in the abdominal cavity and therefore in the abdomen.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
See my comment. The pelvic cavity is typically considered to be separate from the abdomen, even though it isn’t, and is really the part of the abdomen that lies within the pelvic bowl.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
So you admit it isn’t separate.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, didja hear Xerox bought Wurlitzer?
I hear they’re gonna make reproductive organs.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
/rimshot
/10+ years at Xerox
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I admit. It’s a pretty artificial distinction anatomically, though quite important ontologically and neurologically.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Well, yes, I can see that. But I mean, if I shoot a chick in the belly I might hit reproductive organs.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I have not seen that episode
How did they test that one?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Carrie ovulating and standing about 100 yards behind Jamie. They had to shoot him in the nuts 3 times before they successfully whacked Carrie as well. Kari? That’s how she got knocked up.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, that makes sense
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
They made a fake"sac" and filled it with some sort of biological agent and then fired a bullet through it into the abdomen of buster 100 yards away and then did a culture test. I think… I didn’t watch the entire episode, but that’s how I’d do it.
"There must be millions of people all over the world who never get any love letters . . . I could be their leader."
by cybermaldonado on May 10, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You are dumb, Erick
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
that’s slightly less believable than the yarn that Mary told Joseph.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
ZING!
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
LOL FRED!
RBI single
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions
I approve of RBIs off Lackey.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on May 10, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate all former Angels.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Bengie?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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JT?
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Matt Damon?
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My theory
Sabes and Bochy let these Posey and Whiteside quotes slip so everyone at Mccovey Chronicles would have shit to talk about on the off day.
They probably take a sick pleasure in screwing with us.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Next thing Brian will say: “stats on days that end in Y don’t count!”
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Next thing Bochy will say: “They are good players but Timmy and Pabloey need to tone down their behavior. They need to be more stoic out there.”
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
PABLOOOOOEY
LOL
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
next time he hits a bomb, that’s what I’m posting.
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Hamster Huey and the Ooey Kablooie
Calvin and Hobbes’ favorite bedtime story
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
OT
David Wright has now struck out in his last 9 official at-bats.
This pleases me.
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What happened to him? He seems to have lost it. New stadium?
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
147 OPS+ currently
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That’s not losing it.
I’M losing it!!!
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not. He only hit 10 HR last year. His power went away cuz of the ballpark.
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by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the homers last year was strange
But he seems to be doing better again this year.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
To be more specific
He’s already got 7 homers this year.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
But in which ballparks? Answer that, smart guy.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 10, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
To be specific:
Denny Bautista, Todd Wellemeyer, Brandon Medders, Guillermo Mota, Tim Lincecum, Tim Lincecum, Tim Lincecum, Brian Wilson, and Luis Atilano happened to him.
And to be fair to him, he had two walks and a sac fly in that span (Wellemeyer, Medders, and Romo).
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He's the epitome of the 2.5 True Outcome hitter!
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7932469
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
That's extremely pathetic
he’s doing terrible right now
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Great. Now people are going to blame Cain.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Why am I flashing on “Ghosts,” by Ibsen.
“Give me the sun, coach! Give me… the sun…”
/swings at changeup
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Brasz!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
KKKKKKKKKing
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I still wish Bud Black was part of our organization in some way.
Whitey and Blackey together.
Eh? Eh?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
is that Howie?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL MORROW FOR NOT BEING LINCECUM
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
Yanked with 2 out in the 2nd
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
GO BEARS!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I'll be telling you that i'm not going to ATT to see a dumbass bears game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
FEAR THE TREE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the Mess just found a way to avoid scoring against the Nats with 1 out in the first and the bases loaded.
We’re contagious!
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions
I think the Braves went in to an extended slump after playing the Giants as well.
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick Quiz:
If you had to select between interleague play or the DH, which would you choose?
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mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
DH in the NL?
Interleague play
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
hey, yer bastardizing my quiz! DH at all, anywhere, for clarification
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s like Sophie’s Choice
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
pretty timeless reference
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
basically a paper vs. plastic, less filling vs taste great type of situation
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
not really—both options are bad, imo
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
what would you do with interleague? just drop it and add more divisional games or something of that nature?
IN TIMMY WE TRUST
I’d limit it to about six games so we can see more out of division games, but still NL. I’d be in favor of a few less division games, too.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
12 instead of 18 would be dandy, in my opinion.
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i’ll go with 15
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Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
wouldn't work
one team would have an advantage in home games
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
14?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Easiest Walrusman joke or easiest Walrusman joke ever?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
paper and plastic are both bad! the other reference was off, though
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on May 10, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes you fat vs tastes like crap
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
ie the dieter's dilemma.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah:
Four 7-team leagues, no divisions, no interleague, no DH, 26-man rosters. One 7-game playoff level, then the WS.
The old 8-team, two-league set up was fine in the day, but the population has doubled (or so) since those days, so 28 teams is more or less justifiable.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
You want to make it like the NCAA tournament?
Let’s go radical:
15-team divisions based on record, with relegation a la English football.
By the way- and this is apropos of nothing- I just want to say something. People occasionally call you out for sounding a bit pompous or whatnot, but I thoroughly enjoy your presence on this board. By no means do I always agree with you, but your posts are consistently well-crafted, informative, thought-provoking, funny, and respectful. I appreciate that.
/fist bump
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
30 one team divisions
Everybody makes the playoffs!
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
So it would be the NBA?
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Sshhh!
I have been grumbling for years that that’s the next logical step for the Mighty Minds of MLB. God help us if they ever hear the idea mentioned. (And they’d expand to 32 teams—uh, divisions—too.) Think of it! A whole season of post-season! Five levels of 36-game playoffs. And no one is ever left out of post-season! What’s not to like (if you’re an adult still content to be called “Bud”).
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GET RID OF BOTH!
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on May 10, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The other
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Interleague is just annoying
The DH is a crime against baseball.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
by EliminateMe on May 10, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
This, this, this
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Rec'd
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I like interleague play. It’s just not done right. But there’s nothing good about the designated hitter. It’s a crime against humanity.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I have observed over the years
that fans of NL teams hate the DH, and fans of AL teams like it.
I do hate interleague play though.
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Woah
When did Matt Barnes and Vince Carter become members of the Magic?
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
And Jason Williams!
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I don’t know, but I saw Matt Barnes on Basketball Wives last week, and lost a little respect for him. His kids are cute, though.
Why?
I mean, I’ve heard he’s a bit of an ass, but nothing definitive. What did you see?
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL XANTHAN
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
true, dat
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
/doesn’t really understand
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I just read the post. (hint: click links)
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
shit, where aren’t there links? guess I’m lost.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
“abacus twiddlers at ESPN” links to BCB
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I have to keep telling myself
That those of us who like Sabes (blasphemy!) will get our comeuppance on opening day 2013, when Tim Lincecum throws the first pitch of the season to Buster Posey while Thomas Neal holds down center field, Tommy Joseph patrols first base, and Barry Zito is the #5 starter in a Tim-Matt-Madison-Jonathan rotation.
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
I have an uncomfortable feeling, though, that things will be quite a bit different by 2013
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Right.
All those players will be Yankees.
Except Zito.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
he’ll be doin’ up his contract year like Rowand is now
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS!
David Wright did not, repeat NOT, strike out!
He popped out to second.
The New York Mess championship drive 2010 is back on track!
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions
Beat me to it!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Oh geez
Tom Cruise as action hero…
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
It's weird how ludicrous an idea this seems now.
He used to be one of THE action heroes. I mean, Top Gun?!? Even the first M:I. But you jump on ONE damn couch (and maybe call mental health professionals quacks) an you’re a laughingstock.
Oh, how the mite-y have fallen.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to disrespect anybody out there, but the Scientology thing didn’t exactly help him, either.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Oh geez
Ashton Kutcher as action hero
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Ted “Theodore” Logan was an action hero.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I actually liked Keanu Reeves as an action hero.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
So ridiculous
Also, I’ve never liked Ashton Kutcher except for as Michael Kelso.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
THIS
"Kenny Lofton, the man they love to hate in St. Louis has driven a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are DEAD!" Jon Miller
by Sabean's_Folly on May 10, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
People laughed at Bruce Willis as an action hero. Yippie-kay-yay, motherf**ker.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Looks like a perfect role for him
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on May 10, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
OT- David DeJesus?
Said to be available, good hitter, can play left field… Royals said to be looking for bullpen help and a position prospect, both of which I think we have in enough supply.
Shift DeRo to super utility duty?
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
Don't we have enough mediocre players?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I'd say we do
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
we’re the best mediocre team in baseball!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
ranks depleted by injury
must prepare to keep DL stocked if Renteria and Sanchez come off…
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He's pretty mediocre
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Here’s a fangraphs article comparing him favorably to Jason bay
My Son.
2010 Giants: "The thing is, it happened."
I expect DeRosa to get hot soon and level out, and then we’ll forget about this slump. I remember toward the beginning of the season he was putting together some really nice at-bats and getting nothing to show for it. I think it’s just gone to his head right now.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
it would have been nice if, you know, Fred Lewis, at 1/16 of Mark Derosa’s price tag, was given the chance to get hot and level out one cold streak.
It is comforting to know that the Giants can indeed develop position player. For other teams. They love him in Toronto.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/Trades Posey for Lewis…
In 7 years
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He likes it in Toronto. The Jays are a team that never quits
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on May 10, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Always knew what to expect in SF!
(Sitting on the bench while Velez starts)
Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!
RECTUM FACE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
GUYS STARBUCK WAS FLYING THE CYLON RAIDER
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
How did he understand the controls?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
EVERY FLYING MACHINE HAS FOUR BASIC CONTROLS
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LIES
Flying in space is different!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Buck
Starbuck and Buck Rogers. There were a lot of bucks in space during the 70s
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I have an unreasonable love for this running gag...
Rehashing BSG (ostensibly because you are watching it for the first time) as though it has just happened is simply awesome.
I love how Badger shows up in everything cool. Firefly, BSG, SPN…
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on May 11, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Stupid phoolies
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions
LOLWright!
Dude finally gets a single to break his streak of failure, only to get doubled off first on a soft line drive on the next pitch.
Ooh, looks like got spiked in the hand on the play, too. Less LOLWright, more SympathyCringeWright.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:18 PM PDT reply actions
LOL FRED
2-4 with 1 rib eye
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 6:18 PM PDT reply actions
LOL Junior Circuit
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the AL sucks
heh
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s still our problem
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
AL EAST IS LIKE FARM LEAGUE AMIRITE?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
LOLGarymathewsjr!
Seriously, if I were a Mess fan, I’d be mailing dog turds to the front office for every day he remained on the team.
Least justifiable massive contract evar?
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions
UPDATE:
LOL whiny-ass Mess! Reyes threw his bat and helmet while arguing a no-doubt strike three. Now he and Jerry Manuel have the rest of the night off.
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"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I hadn’t really seen Reyes play before this series with the Giants… What a smug little prick. You think with all the medical problems he’s had, he’d just be happy to be playing at all.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
And now the battle for last place in the NL West is about to start
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 6:39 PM PDT reply actions
Replying to myself...
LOL at the pre-game comments of Kuip for the no-hitter: “Tim Lincecum no hit the Padres through six innings last night…” Jinx!
How the hell is I-Rod still hitting .393?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
LOL ROCKIES!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:12 PM PDT reply actions
WERTH!
Not totally worthless
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
The DBacks are giving away gnomes
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions
David Eckstein?
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on May 10, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stupid phoolies
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions
Rectum just stretched out his second triple of the game
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
Barry Melrose on ESPN just took a shot at the NBA
After the NBA playoff highlight of the Magic sweeping the Hawks he was asked why those in the NHL have trouble winning consecutive games:
We have parity in the NHL, and drama in our playoffs.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Melrose is the most awesome dude on ESPN right now, and that’s me speaking as someone who’s not especially interested in hockey.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
When asked what he learned about the Sharks, Meorose said :
“They are really really good. And I get paid to say these stuff.”
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He knows he’s not necessarily speaking to a hockey-loving audience, so he really brings his a-game to every segment he does, and I can appreciate that.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Oh I love him dearly
I just cracked up because that’s exactly the kind of hard hitting analysis we get from FP and Urban.
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LOL ROCKIES
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 10, 2010 9:07 PM PDT reply actions
LULZ
I enjoy this.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Eli-Totally! Lewis-Amen. Bowker-Preach on Brother! Nate-Can I get a hell ya?!
I like to think that I disagree with Boche because he’s privy to things I’m not. Like he caught Bowker jacking off in Murph’s office and just can’t stomach starting him. But more and more I’m just confused and frustrated. And miss the cold, if player-distant, baseball logic of Alou. Not nearly as much as the suicide bunt plausible Craig. Frog tongue Baker was too lovable for words.
And still, Boche bitching aside, part of my brain says to me Scoreboard with this wishwashy team that is so much fun to watch. Again.
My eyes hurt.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
very nicely well done
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on May 10, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Drew was scratched from Monday’s lineup against the Blue Jays due to vertigo, the Boston Herald’s Scott Lauber reports.
what the fuck?
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like did he go to a U2 concert or something?
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/clap
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
It's tough being in the AL East and looking down upon the rest of the MLB from atop that lofty height
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Damn. Well done.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
His OBP is reaching dizzying heights.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 10, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoooaa
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Whoops
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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STEVE HOLM
Dammit, you beat me to it.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on May 10, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
SJ and High Desert now in 10th inning
Peguero cut down a dude trying to score to keep the game at 1-1
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
curse
HD homers off Quirarte, 2-1 Mavericks
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Peguero was caught stealing home?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
no, he threw someone out at the plate to end the top of the 9th
with a double play.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
BASERUNNING
SB: Peguero (16, 2nd base off Wild/Coleman).
CS: Peguero (4, home by Wild/Coleman).
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
SJ loses
announcers angered at the game-ending call at 1B while the tying run was crossing the plate.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That sucks. But are you sure Peguero didnt try to steal home?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
I just turned it on in the 9th.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 10, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Well I think he did.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
/shift-A
Should I read through the entire thread?
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 10, 2010 9:52 PM PDT reply actions
no, not really.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Only if you feel like being exposed to intelligent conversations regarding wine, cheese and art.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL CULTURE
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 10, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Logan Couture!
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Looks like a douche. Sorry, Sharks fans.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
NO U
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 10, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on. Im rooting for the Sharks, but the teeth? The hair?
Douche.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Sarchasm?
Cause, yeah, I agree. He does look like a douche. I have no idea what you look like, so.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 10, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait what?
I was serious, he does look like a douche. I wasnt calling you a douche, if you thought I was.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I was saying my “NO U” comment was sarchasm. Sorry if that caused some confusion.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 10, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Makes more sense now.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
In Other News
It appears that preliminary reports of Sammi Salo rupturing his testicle was, well, premature. It has been upgraded to a Severely swollen herniated testicle.
He might try to play tomorrow. Man that’s playing balls out right there.
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NO U
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the hallway dance of conversations.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on May 11, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And you haven't even seen the douchiest picture of him
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Ahhh man, the Rays scored. There goes their 17 inning scoreless streak. Or probably longer.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 9:59 PM PDT reply actions
And now Fuentes blows a 3 run lead in the ninth. LOL
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ack.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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DeRosa Says He'll See Doctor for Wrist
in case y’all didn’t notice the link in the article links
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Good
I think he should hit better.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope it’s not James Andrews
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I hope its Hugh Laurie
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Except for that one time it was lupus.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
FUCK.
I haven’t gotten there yet.
/takes the rest of the series off of Netflix.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be pretty hard to anticipate which episode it is…
And to think I’ve never even watched the show.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
SUPER SPOILER ALERT
It’s between the one where it’s actually vasculitis and the one where it’s actually sarcoidosis.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
OH GOD WHY
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 11, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope DeRosa's ok
because I don’t know where we would ever find a competent LF with potential upside if we had to replace him in the lineup.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
LET HIM GO. HES NOT COMING BACK.
Also, after today, I understand you username.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Benjamin : me :: Kim Batiste : jcb9
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we had one that had a wOBA over .350 last 2 seasons.
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Believe it or not
I wasn’t even talking about Fred (although he does fit the description). I really would like DeRosa to miss about a month, just so Bowker would get some semblance of consistent ABs and we can figure out whether he can be a productive major leaguer.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bork will play torres instead. And recall Eugenio Velez when DeRosa goes on the DL.
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Sad but true
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 10, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless you go with 4 outfielders
The only other OF option is Darren Ford. Which pretty much guarantees the return of Zorak.
Therefore : Please, for the love of God, Stay healthy Derosa.
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Oy vey, I might be all stabby if Velez is back.
STAY HEALTHY DEROSA. PLEASE.
"The thing is, it happened."
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 10, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez also versatilities to the infield!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 10, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
there are always other options!
Love, Eric Byrnes
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on May 11, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget Ishikawa!
Taking OF practice in spring training…I know he’s not a real outfielder, but then neither is Velez.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in...Anaheim?
IT IS ALL IN HIS HEAD!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 11, 2010 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Cold
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Man
the TB-LAA game is still going. Its only in the 11th.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions
On third?
GameChannel is slow, but it says 2nd.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
aaaaaannnnnnd wild pitch.
There we go.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well considering the situation, I can make a pretty good guess who wins.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
WHOA SHOCKER
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 10, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
thank you grant
the idiocy of this team’s management is well documented, but not well enough. what is it about SF’s fans and media that tolerates this kind of stupidity? i can’t fathom another team being allowed to get away with stuff like starting brian bocock and eugenio velez, giving away a 2-win player for a glass of water and a cardboard cookie, benching AAA’s best hitter on a team that can’t hit, and putting a .244 career MINOR LEAGUE hitter in the middle of a lineup… fuck it’s depressing.
/shoots self in kneeball.
Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!
The Royals say "Hi"
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on May 11, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
organizational catcher
This thread is the number one result when searching Google for “organizational catcher”.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
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