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Lot of highlights on Tuesday from the Giants' farm: among the hitters, Buster Posey doubled twice, Ryan Rohlinger and Ryan Lormand each had three hits, and Brock Bond reached base four times; among the pitchers, Eric Hacker won his fourth straight start; David Mixon threw a complete game shutout, and Eric Stolp had 5.0 shutout IP.

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AAA: Fresno defeated Portland 8-2

Fresno: 2B Brock Bond: 2 for 3, 2B, 2 BB, SO
Fresno: SS Ryan Rohlinger: 3 for 5, 2B, SB
Fresno: C Buster Posey: 2 for 4, 2 2B, BB
Portland: SS Sean Kazmar: 3 for 4

Fresno: SP Eric Hacker: 5.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K
Fresno: RP Alex Hinshaw: 0.2 IP, 1 BB, 2 K--1 WP
Portland: SP Cesar Carrillo: 4.1 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 BK

Rohlinger had three of the Grizzlies' thirteen hits, boosting his AVG to .351 and his OPS above .900.  Bond reached base four times, raising his OBP to .386.  Posey, who had had just four XBH through his first eighteen games, doubled his doubles total to four.  The Padres' 25-year-old Kazmar had three hits, raising his AVG to .308.

Hacker has been the Grizzlies' most effective starter so far.  He has not allowed more than one run in any start and now has a 4-0 W-L record.  His peripheral stats have also been dominant with 15 H, 3 BB, 0 HR, and 24 K in 21.2 IP.  So far the biggest knock against him may be that the 27-year-old has pitched longer than 5.1 IP only once.  In this start, he threw 89 pitches (59 strikes).  Hinshaw struck out two of the three batters he faced.  After allowing just two runs in his first three starts, Carrillo, the Padres' first rounder in 2005, had his least effective start of the year.  The high-scoring game lasted four hours, plus a one-hour rain delay.

AA: Richmond defeated New Britain 3-1 (7 innings) in game 1

Richmond: SS Brandon Crawford: 1 for 4, HR, SO
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 2 for 4, 2B
Richmond: DH Roger Kieschnick: 2 for 2, BB

Richmond: SP Daryl Maday: 5.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K--1 PO
Richmond: RP Rafael Cova: 0.2 IP, 2 K

Gillsapie and Kieschnick were two of three Flying Squirrels with two hits each, raising their respective AVGs to .250 and .262.  Crawford connected for his 2nd HR to plate two runs in the 3rd inning.

Maday's fourth start was quite effective, although not as dominant as his last start (0 R on 2 H and 0 BB in 8.0 IP) a week earlier.  He fell an out short of the "quality start" but improved his W-L record to 3-0.  Cova struck out both batters he faced for his 6th save.

AA: Richmond defeated New Britain 2-0 (7 innings) in game 2

Richmond: C Tyler LaTorre: 1 for 2, 2B, BB, SO

Richmond: SP David Mixon: 7.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K

In the second game of the doubleheader, LaTorre was the only Flying Squirrel to reach base twice.  In five games as the backup catcher, he has hit 5 for 13 with 3 XBH and 8 BB for an OPS of nearly 1.200.

Making his fourth start of the year after just three starts a year ago, Mixon threw the complete game shutout.  It was the longest start of his career with a season-high 5 K.  He faced just three batters over the minimum and had a 12/4 GO/FO line.  His ERA is now 2.66.

A+: San Jose defeated Stockton 5-1
(after taking early lead with three runs in 1st inning)

San Jose: 3B Ryan Lormand: 3 for 4, 2 SB
San Jose DH Brandon Belt: 2 for 3, SF, SB
Stockton: SS Grant Green: 2 for 4, SO

San Jose: SP Eric Stolp: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
San Jose: RP Jason Stoffel: 0.1 IP

A year ago Lormand had a .650 OPS in 211 AB.  Starting the year as once again a reserve infielder, Lormand has ended up providing much more in the first month of the season.  Hitting .352/.426/.389 through 54 AB he has won nearly everyday playing time.  The stats suggest he is more of a speedster than power hitter given his 5 SB and 2 XBH.  Belt extended his hitting streak to fourteen games and raised his AVG to .411.  Green, whom the Athletics' selected 13th overall last summer, had two of the Ports' five hits and is now hitting .286/.318/.429 through 84 AB in his first full season.

Making his first start after four relief appearances, Stolp had a very effective start, facing just two batters over the minimum and not allowing a single fly ball out (8/0 GO/FO line).  He improved his ERA to 3.86.  Stoffel retired the only batter he faced to strand three inherited runners and to be credited with his 5th save.

A-: Augusta lost to Asheville 8-0
(after allowing five runs in 1st inning)

Augusta: CF Evan Crawford: 2 for 4

Augusta: RHP Bryan Salsbury: 2.0+ IP, 7 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 K--2 HR
Augusta: SP Chris Gloor: 3.0 IP, 3 BB, 2 K

Crawford, the Giants' ninth rounder a year ago and the most athletic player in their 2009 draft class, had his first multi-hit game in his last ten games.  He has struggled to a .176/.253/.279 line through his first 68 AB this year.

After two great starts, Salsbury has struggled in his last two starts.  His ERA has risen to nearly 7.00 with 13 ER over his last two starts.  Gloor provided effective long relief.  He has not allowed a run over his last seven appearances.

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Anyone else willing to overrate Gillaspie with me yet?

I did this ever since I heard he was compared to Bill Mueller in the draft, who was my childhood hero starting in 1996 when I really wanted him to get his average up to .500 (i was 11)

Belt keeps hitting too… i think he should be called up to AA as soon as possible.

by Electric on Apr 28, 2010 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I was a huge Gillaspie fan

Until he showed no ability whatsoever to play 3B in San Jose last year. And didn’t hit for power. And didn’t hit for average.

I hope he gets back on track, but between the poor defense and low power output last year, I was not impressed. He seemed like he was behind in his development when his best asset coming into the draft was “advanced bat for his age”.

I sure hope he can stick at 3B and show that advanced bat, we all know that the Giants need a 3B replacement for Panda soon.

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by jctGamer on Apr 28, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer him at second personally. The scouts has always said he would do better at second, ever since they drafted him.

Sandoval is okay at third… he’s about average according to what I read in BP2010 (they rated him 0), and if he’s hitting like he is, that’s good enough.

by Electric on Apr 28, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone else willing to overrate Gillaspie with me yet?

Not yet, but I’m willing to get interested in him again.

With no speed, questionable fielding, and OBP being his principal skill, he’s going to have a hard time catching a break in this organization.

by Evan on Apr 28, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is the infield version of Fred.

Although with more arrogance and a better agent.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 28, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right on the money Lars...

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by nvsfg on Apr 28, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

so...

He’s Kevin Frandsen?

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by delorean on Apr 28, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mind

Blown

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by jctGamer on Apr 28, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, it’s tough to get excited about a guy like that. You could put Brock Bond’s name right above that description, and it would apply just as well. Hell, Bond’s IsoOBP was actually about .02 higher then Gillaspie’s last year (I’m rounding, but about .080 for Gillaspie, .100 for Bond), and it’s around the same this year. If we’re looking for straight OBP, might as well take a look at someone that’s closer to major-league ready

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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 28, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Gillaspie’s two years younger than Bond, much more highly regarded by scouts, and has now hit more home runs in three weeks than Bond has in three years. I’m not enthusiastic about Gillaspie, but he’s way ahead of Bond.

by Evan on Apr 28, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bond was also a 24th round pick. While that doesn’t mean everything, he’s not going to get a lot of chances if he has one bad year, while Gillaspie probably would.

by Electric on Apr 28, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d also add that high OBP players with absolutely no power do not maintain OBP as much with ones with some power when it comes to the majors.

by Electric on Apr 28, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Luis-Castillo.shtml

I know what you mean, I just thought I’d throw that in. He made a living off of his speed, but those are roughly the power numbers I’d expect from Bond

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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 28, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha yeah Bond’s HR swing is a bit lacking. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not a big fan of Bond, I just don’t think much of anything of Gillaspie. I do agree that Gillaspie has more power then Bond, but really, neither of them are gonna scare the pitcher; last year, Gillaspie had a .100 IsoP, and Bond had close to .080. Pretty sad either way, really

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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 28, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having seen Bond in person for the first time this year, I must admit I liked the kid. Good glove, decent speed, fields well, and gets on base. Granted the power does not exsist, but the Giants could and have done worse from a 24th round pick.

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by nvsfg on Apr 28, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in this line

If he can show average power and the ability to stick at 3rd long term I’ll jump back on board

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by Gobroks on Apr 28, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Small sample size, but what in the world is up with Eric Hacker? He might be this year’s Ryan Sadowski.

by Grant Brisbee on Apr 28, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice K rate. Although 27 year olds in AAA should be mowing guys down.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 28, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You say that like it’s a good thing.

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by EliminateMe on Apr 28, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He stole the missing velocity from MadBum

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by Speedforthewin on Apr 28, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm willing to give him a look as our long reliever

IIRC he was a reliever before this year, and if he maintains this, I’d call him up and option Joaquin so our long reliever wouldn’t be Brandon “Gas Can” Medders

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by Gobroks on Apr 28, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus the Giants have to have a player named "Hacker’ even if he is a pitcher

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by capn on Apr 28, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slightly OT: But What in the world is up with Livan Hernandez

The MLB network guys were jizzing all over him so I looked up his numbers. On the surface they are ridiculous (31 IP, 3 ER, 8 BB, 19 Hits, and 10K’s), but then I saw that his BABIP is .180 while his career BABIP is .310. I did not even think that was possible. If I had money and could, I would short Livan Hernandez.

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by capn on Apr 28, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hinshaw with the classic Hinshaw inning.

by Evan on Apr 28, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

What do anybody tell me about Tyler LaTorre, other than he’s a lefty-hitting catcher. I’ve been intrigued with his hitting lines for several years. Does he just suck defensively? I’d sure play him over most of our other catching options, including the vaunted Jackson Williams.

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by Lyle on Apr 28, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I have been on the LaTorre band wagon since the 07 season here in SK. From my observations he does a much better job blocking balls in the dirt than jax and certainly has an adequate arm for his position. He does not transition from ball caught to ball thrown as quickly as Jax.
Some pitchers that I’ve talked to about the situation expressed more confidence the LaTorre behind the dish.
I’ve also been told that Decker heavily influenced the choice of Jax and that’s why he went as high a draft pick as he did and now the reality needs to catch up to the hype, hence all the playing time.

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by RichH on Apr 28, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remembered the Jackson Williams portion of your post, but forgot that you were contrasting him with LaTorre. Good info – thanks again!

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by Lyle on Apr 29, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Double A is interesting this year

IMO, there are a lot of guys there this year (Keishneck, Gillaspie, Crawford, and even Neal) for whom this is a real seperator year – can they hit pitching well enough to be a prospect, or where they college bats having it easy with A ball pitchers. I’d love to come out of the year with at least 2 of them having shown a major league bat potential.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Apr 28, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve been watching it pretty closely… Crawford is doing pretty bad, and Keishneck still has no patience, even though he’s been getting hot lately.

It’s pretty clear Gillaspie and Neal are the prospects, Keishenck has a good chance

by Electric on Apr 28, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s been 3 weeks. Nothing is known yet.

by marcello on Apr 28, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a Noonite to the bitter end.

by Evan on Apr 28, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

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“It is bitter…bitter” he answered.
“But I like it
because it is bitter.
And because it is my heart.”

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by Roger on Apr 28, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m really hoping Crawford is one of those that, at the end of the year, shows he’s ready to battle for a starting spot in 2011. It’s really either him or Uribe (or, I guess, Renteria), and I would love to see him take the job.

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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 28, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s really either him or Uribe (or, I guess, Renteria)

You shut your mouth right now.

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by nvsfg on Apr 28, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Belt – continuing to be awesome

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 28, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I was a bit concerned about Buster’s lack of power so far, but I guess it’s early.

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by jponry on Apr 28, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

and ppl on VER are worried abou Pujols strike out…

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by jctGamer on Apr 28, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s more of a Mauer track. Posey will probably hit for average before he hits for Power in the majors. If he is brought up and plays every day, I think he should be the leadoff man.

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by Speedforthewin on Apr 28, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe Buster will ever be a power hitter.

He will be a very good hitter; just not a power guy. Run digerz.exe maybe 10-13 times a season.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 28, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same here

Seems that most fans I talk to at/before/after games expect him to come up and save the world hitting bombs as soon as he gets called up. That just isn’t his game

by m34josh on Apr 28, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

But if he keeps hitting doubles with the occasional HR in the next few weeks, it’ll make that SLG look nifty when it’s over .500, and give Sabean one less reason to leave him down there *cough*Super-Two*cough*.

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by Azantor on Apr 28, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Believe Geraldo can develop into an 18-20 dingerz guy

by wilriv21 on Apr 28, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey didn’t really have that much power in AAA last year either. Sure, a .511 looks nice, but there were only .190 points between his SLG and AVG, and it is the PCL.

He now has a .167 Isolated SLG in ~200 PCL AB’s. Stuff could still change, but right now it looks like we’re talking ~130 Iso in the majors, or something like that. Basically Joe Mauer before last year. Though Posey isn’t quite the pure hitter Mauer is either.

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by Cookyman on Apr 28, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

DFA him NOW to save us the anquish.

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by jctGamer on Apr 28, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, we could get Merkin and Frandsen for peanuts right now…

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by Azantor on Apr 28, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s fine… before this game though, it was like .100ish, which was worrisome.

I think he’ll probably be capable of hitting .300+ with an OBP in the high-.300s and a SLG in the mid-.400s, which would be perfectly fine.

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by jponry on Apr 28, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

YEAH BUT DOES HE HIT GRAND SLAMS AND CATCHES NO HITTERS

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by jctGamer on Apr 28, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’ll be a Russell Martin clone, minus the evil and with a little more power(2007 season).

by superk1ng on Apr 28, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

SUCK IT RUSSELL MARTIN

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by Gobroks on Apr 28, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

BELT

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by rotorueter on Apr 28, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL POSEY ANOTHER MULTIHIT GAME

good thing our offense is so good and doesn’t need him.

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by bondslegend on Apr 28, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Stoffel

I’d have to believe that he’s a candidate for a mid-season promotion if he keeps up the good work.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 28, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Has anybody gotten a read on his velocity? I remember he was supposed to be a potential first round pick but the fall in his velocity caused him to drop in the draft.

by superk1ng on Apr 28, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

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