minor lines, 4/25/10
Sunday highlights from the Giants' farm: Tommy Joseph homered and doubled twice over a doubleheader, Luke Anders homered in two consecutive innings, and Juan Perez homered and doubled. Also notable, Madison Bumgarner also homered while allowing just 1 ER in 5.0 IP, and Phillippe Aumont and two relievers nearly no hit Richmond.
AAA: Fresno defeated Portland 4-2
Fresno: SS Ryan Rohlinger: 2 for 4, 2 2B, HBP
Fresno: 1B Brett Pill: 2 for 4, HR
Fresno: CF Mike McBryde: 1 for 4, HR
Fresno: P Madison Bumgarner: 1 for 2, HR, GiDP
Portland: CF Luis Durango: 3 for 3, SH, CS
Fresno: SP Madison Bumgarner: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K--2 PO
Fresno: RP Henry Sosa: 2.0 IP, 1 BB, 1 K
The Grizzlies had three leadoff HRs, with Pill homering to leadoff the 2nd inning, Bumgarner homering to lead off the 3rd inning, and McBryde homering to lead off the 6th inning. For Pill and McBryde, it was their 2nd HRs of the year, and for McBryde his second HR in two days. Rohlinger had his 5th and 6th doubles. Durango, who made his MLB debut with the Padres last September, had his second straight three-hit game against the Grizzlies, raising his AVG to .299.
Bumgarner had a solid start. He did allow seven of twenty batters to reach base (.350 OBP), but he helped his cause with a couple pickoffs. Making his fourth start of the year, he evened his W-L record at 1-1 and lowered his ERA to 6.50. He was not particularly efficient, throwing 99 pitches (58 strikes) in five innings. Sosa did a little better in finding the strike zone, with 15 of 27 pitches going for strikes.
AA: Richmond lost to Reading 2-0
Richmond: CF Darren Ford: 0 for 4, 3 SO
Richmond: 3B Conor Gillaspie: 1 for 3, BB, SO
Reading: RF Domonic Brown: 1 for 3, 3B, BB
Richmond: SP Clayton Tanner: 4.0+ IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 2 K--1 WP
Richmond: RP Tony Pena Jr.: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Reading: SP Phillipe Aumont: 6.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K--1 WP
Gillaspie had the Flying Squirrels' only hit, a single with two outs in the 7th inning. Ford's recent hot streak came to an abrupt halt with the oh-fer and hat trick. His SO/AB ratio is now 25%. Brown, the Phillies' top prospect, had another solid game in his third game back off the DL.
Tanner improved his ERA to 2.25 through four starts but also issued a season-high 4 BB, giving him a BB/IP ratio of 0.45. Today was also his second straight start with fewer ground outs than fly outs. Pena pitched a perfect inning to lower his ERA to 0.82. Aumont, the Phillies' top pitching prospect whom they acquired as part of the Cliff Lee trade, faced just one batter over the minimum in six no-hit, shutout innings.
A+: San Jose defeated Bakersfield 4-2
San Jose: CF Juan Perez: 2 for 4, HR, 2B
San Jose: C Johnny Monell: 1 for 4, HR, SO
San Jose: SP Kyle Nicholson: 6.1 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 K--2 WP
Perez's 2nd HR and 5th double accounted for the Giants' only multi-hit line. Extending his hitting streak to nine games, the hot-hitting Perez entered the day hitting .325/.370/.550 through his first 40 AB. Monell, who has by contrast been off to a slow start (OPS of .527 through 41 AB), had his 1st HR of the year. He had 8 HRs last year.
Nicholson allowed just one run through six innings, before another run was charged to his record in the 7th inning. The quality start brought his ERA below 7.50 (through three starts after yielding 8 ER in his first start).
A-: Augusta defeated Asheville 7-5 (7 innings) in game 1
Augusta: C Tommy Joseph: 2 for 4, 2 2B
Augusta: 3B Chris Dominguez: 1 for 3, HR, 2 SO
Augusta: SS Juan Martinez: 2 for 3, 2B, SO
Asheville: 3B Joe Sanders: 3 for 4, HR
Augusta: SP Kyle Vazquez: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K--1 HR
Joseph doubled twice, his 2nd and 3rd doubles of the year, raising his AVG to .230. Among three other GreenJackets with two hits each, Martinez also had his 3rd double of the year. Dominguez led off the 6th inning with his 3rd HR, but he also struck out twice, giving him multiple strikeouts in four of his last six games. Sanders, the Rockies' the rounder last summer, had perhaps his best game of the year.
After allowing just 1 ER over his first two starts, Vazquez allowed a couple earned runs today but otherwise improved his W-L record to 2-0.
A-: Augusta defeated Asheville 7-5 (7 innings) in game 2
(rallying for four runs in the top of the 7th inning)
Augusta: LF Nick Liles: 3 for 4, CS
Augusta: CF Daniel Cook: 2 for 4, 2 2B, 2 SO
Augusta: DH Tommy Joseph: 2 for 4, HR, SO
Augusta: 1B Luke Anders: 2 for 4, 2 HR, SO
Augusta: SP Chris Heston: 4.0+ IP, 8 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--1 BK
Augusta: RP Jason Jarvis: 1.0 IP
Anders finished the day homering his last two at bats, with solo shots in both the 6th and 7th innings for his 2nd and 3rd HRs this year. The second broke a tie-score with two outs in the final inning. After two doubles in the first game of the double-header, Joseph followed up with another XBH, this time connecting for his 3rd HR. Cook added two more XBH with his 9th and 10th doubles. Liles had five hits over the doubleheader, improving his AVG to .333.
Heston allowed just one run through four innings, but in the 5th inning he did not retire any of the batters he faced, and four more runs were charged to his record, raising his ERA to 4.74 after four starts. With a perfect 7th inning, Jarvis recorded his second save of the day and his 5th save this year.
71 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Any word on MadBum's velo?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Listened to a couple of innings of game. Fresno announcer Greenwald said the Portland stadium gun had Bummy’s first pitch of the game at 90mph. On another pitch the announcer stated he struck out the batter on a 90mph pitch.
Those were the only two times I heard Greenwald announce the velocity.
If he was sitting at 90
and touching 93, that would be ok I guess. I’d like to see his velo return all the way but, baby steps
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I have a feeling he was probably topping out at 90 mph.
Not an incredibly impressive start. It was better than his first two, but the lack of K’s is a concern. Its hard to tell if the lack of K’s is because of the velocity, lack of great offspeed stuff, or both.
by Squire_Boone on Apr 25, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was there
According to the stadium gun he hit 92 several times. Pretty nice to see him hit an oppo bomb. There was no doubt it was leaving the yard.
Pill’s bomb was crushed to left and McBryde’s was pretty much straight away center.
Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.
"GM Jack Zduriencik is one of the sharper tools in the shed. Elsewhere in that shed, Brian Sabean continues to pound screws into bricks with a garden rake."
Bumgarner Velocity
According to the PGE Park radar gun, Bumgarner hit 93 MPH several times. He mixed in some off-speed stuff to mixed results; he was out of the zone a lot with the slowerr stuff. Not a lot of swing throughs. His HR was an opposite field job.
Pill’s HR was a no-doubt, first pitch bomb. The LF didn’t move.
I’m still very skeptical of any minor league velocity reading in regards to Bumgarner. It sounds like, even with questionable minor league radar guns, that he’s still working below 90 miles per hour most of the time. And the fact that his control hasn’t been great makes me wonder if he’s sacrificing control to try and ramp up his already diminished velocity.
#1 FanShot Champion
Er, actually I just checked out his walk rates and his BB/9 is at 2.25 after this start. For some reason I thought he was well into the 3’s. Weird, but my mistake.
#1 FanShot Champion
ALWAYZ WRUNG!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
TWSS
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
RONG
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Apr 25, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So, from what you saw, Bumgarner’s walks had more to do with his lack of command of the offspeed stuff than the fastball?
by Squire_Boone on Apr 25, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not necessarily command of either. Could well be a case of nibbilitis from getting knocked around for the first time in his life.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Bumgarner's Control
His command of the fastball was superior to his command of the off-speed stuff, I would say. I don’t think he was nibbling. He kept the ball down in the zone fairly well.
AA separates the suspects from the prospects. By the end of the season we will have a better read on the kids.
I think Noonan just isn’t ready. He wasn’t even good at A+, and he’s 2 years younger than the people he got promoted with.
Tommy Joseph can't make it to the bigs fast enough
It feels like forever since we’ve had a pure power hitter. Not a panda-style high-BA and power, but the kind of guy who hits .250 with a .400 OBP and .500 SLG.
Those are my irrational expectations of Joseph.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Expect the Giants to continue to draft sluggers in the early rounds. It is the John Barr way. One year after grabbing Roger Kieshnick Barr grabbed sluggers Thomas Joseph and Chris Dominguez.
So what are we going to do with Thomas Joseph if he’s projected to be a catcher
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
In my dreams
Him and Posey split time at 1b/catcher.
But more likely he’ll just become a 1b.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
gotcha, sounds good then, i was just wondering what the deal was on if Posey was going to play catcher, where would Joseph play if he did make it to the Majors…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He could easily move to LF.
Your San Francisco Giants: exemplifying buzzard's luck since 2006.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
Then there ya go, what i failed to realize was that these guys are still very young and can easily switch positions, Joseph for example can, Posey is one of the more versatile players in the system
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
POSEY @ SS
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 26, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He'll probably have to move to 1B
Not because of Posey but because he’s not that great defensively.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I'm still surprised
That Joseph made it to the 2nd round. I remember reading some pretty big hype about him.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I was promised
Light towers.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
LITE TOWA POWA??
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
DINGERZ!?!?!
slowly dying, one giants game at a time
by SirPsycoSexy on Apr 26, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah me too
IIRC the Rays were considering taking him with the 31st pick in the draft last year. Also, I was kinda upset when the Orioles took Mychal Givens right before we picked but this pick looks good right now.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
/sabean trades him for [aging veteran]
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 25, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Joseph 4 Konerko
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
/with pre-existing medical condition
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
the kind of guy who hits .250 with a .400 OBP and .500 SLG
Is there a “kind of guy” who does that? I’d be willing to bet that a .400 OBP hasn’t been accomplished with a .250 BA or lower 10 times in baseball history, if that. Toss in a .500 SLG and you may well be once or twice in history — or never. Obviously Adam Dunn’s the prototype for what you’re talking about and a quick check tells me he’s never done it.
So perhaps we should set our expectations bar somewhere lower than, say, virtually never happens.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I read it as exaggeration to make a point
more than an actual wish
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Oh, of course you're right
Bondslegend is right. My hope for joseph would be somewhere in between Mark Reynolds, Adam Dunn, and Jack Cust.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
“I’d be willing to bet that a .400 OBP hasn’t been accomplished with a .250 BA or lower 10 times in baseball history, if that.”
That’s why Mickey Tettleton was so badass.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 25, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
that’s impressive. He would be super valuable today, was he thought of as being good during his career?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 25, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He was pretty underrated, especially considering he was a switch-hitter and played C (as well as 1B, RF, and LF). OBP wasn’t emphasized as much then, so he wasn’t thought of as a major star, but he did make a couple of All-Star games and won three silver sluggers.
One group that didn’t underrate him: Strat-o-Matic players — you could plug him in all over the field, he got on base like crazy, and hit DINGERZ. The only Super Utility Guy who could even approach him was his teammate for a lot of those years, Tony Phillips.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 25, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
the "ben zobrist" of the late 80s/early 90s
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
very interesting
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
but Tony Phillips beat him on visits to the Ivanhoe Motel (whenever Tony Phillips is brought up I have a Pavlovian response of mentioning the Ivanhoe Motel)
by FluLikeSymptoms on Apr 26, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow that first year in Texas he came pretty damn close to .250/.400/.500. Close enough for the gimme. Cust came within a few points of it a couple years ago, too. But I’d really wonder how many other times anybody’s come within .005-.010 points of hitting that trifecta. It’s difficult because the BA really does drag the other numbers down with it to a certain degree.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Well, it is easier to do! Although he’s not starting right off as an OB machine thus far.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Dick Deitz came pretty close to the BA/OBP side of that in 1961
But not quite : .252 / .387.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
also, Nick Johnson in 2008
.220 / .415. Only 147 PA, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Not as close as you might think. And certainly not regularly. The only two seasons where he achieved a .400 OBP with a BA in the .250s were both injury shortened by a lot (47 and 51 games), so it’s impossible to know if they were sustainable over a full season. He had a .500 SLG in one of those two years (by a lot, .684).
In fact he only had a .400 OBP in two full seasons, (’98 and ’99) and in those years he hit .299 and .278. He also had .400 OBP in two other seasons where he played at least half the year: 1995, where in 104 games he hit .274/.441/.685, and the following season, where in 130 games he hit .312/.467/.730.
Not terribly surprisingly, in McGwire’s best years he tended to have his higher BA. I’m not suggesting any causation there (quite the reverse in fact), but there’s pretty clearly a correlation in a “rising tide” kind of way.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Ford not looking so good
Unlike Neal, Kieserchnick, Gillaspie, and ESPECIALLY Noonan, he’s not at all young for his league, and his K/BB ratio has never been too good.
He seems like Fred Lewis with less power but more speed. A good number of walks but way too many strikeouts.
The new problem!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you installed light towers around your home?
Your San Francisco Giants: exemplifying buzzard's luck since 2006.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
I can’t afford replacing them every day.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Apr 26, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Jason Gilbert (Gilbert?!) Giambi
Giambi achieved the .250/.400/.500 gold standard in 2003, and came very close in a couple other years…
"I'm not sure what the hell charisma is, but I have the feeling it's Willie Mays." --Ted Kluszewski
by Rick Parker (Lewis) Can't Lose on Apr 26, 2010 9:23 AM PDT reply actions
Apparently my adopted son Brock Bond is only posting a mediocre .265 AVG, but an OPS of .668 good for 4th worst on the team, BUT has the most SO on the team at 13!!! COME ON BOY!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
that's just bad parenting
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 26, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry, your son will be fine. His defense was very good. Saturday his called strike three was about chin high, the plate umpire that night was all over the place.
My second son is off to his typically slow start though he hit a couple of balls very hard yesterday, one of which fell for a base hit and the other was a line drive that curved beautifully to the left fielder.
Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.
"GM Jack Zduriencik is one of the sharper tools in the shed. Elsewhere in that shed, Brian Sabean continues to pound screws into bricks with a garden rake."

by 























