Post-game thread: Lincecum struggles like an ace
My name is Grant. I like walks on the beach, sunsets, bourbon, and games in which Tim Lincecum goes seven innings before Sergio Romo comes in before an uneventful eight inning before Brian Wilson comes in for an uneventful ninth inning.
Hit me up @mccoveychron, or visit my Facebook page!
Also, Tim Lincecum is better than you.
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So, has Nate officially reclaimed RF?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
/obligatory yoda is on a dodgers billboard comment
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Wow I like those things too!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wins are cool.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions
Also, Tim Lincecum is cooler than Roy Halladay.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions
ESPN disagrees
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN can suck it like Russell Martin.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
No, ESPN can only suck it like Victor Martinez.
East coast bias, and all.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
They sure do. They sure fuckin’ do.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Roy will win the Cy this year because he’ll have two starts against the Giants while Tim has two starts against the Phillies.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
by rxmeister on Apr 24, 2010 7:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The losing streak is over. Group hug guys.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Apr 23, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
:D
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
o/
Anyone?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
\o
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
[[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]/
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Bighead.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU CAN'T EXCHANGE TOKENS FOR CHILDREN!!
YOU MONSTER!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ok seriously what the fuck?!
this is what i typed: [[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]/
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what I saw at first
Then I refreshed the thread and got the children token thing.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
whoa, me too
Really weird.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Yeah. I didn’t even refresh. I think I scrolled down and then back up. WTH?
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
also
When I reloaded, it says the children token thing in this comment too.
This may be SBN’s weirdest autoformat ever. Either than or Grant is fucking with you.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I believe I was the first person to get children tokened.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Although the SBN search engine is being a dick and won’t find the comment. It happened to me like a month ago.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
this is what i typed:![]()
SBN BRASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.![]()
I don't see that
But I haven’t reloaded yet. I see the arms raising emoticon.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
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HOLY CRAP
Reload and check out this comment.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
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WTf is going on here
/finally reloaded
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare![]()
I hit z. And it cycled through comments from jcb and marcellor that are COMPLETELY IN YOUR QUOTE BOX. and the token children thing is all the way underneath scout’s name.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
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LOL marcelloR
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
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So fucking strange.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.![]()
LOL
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IT'S GROWING!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.![]()
I need to check these images better
Google search: dan boyle shirtless
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
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Finally watching it
1 season in. Not going to lie, unimpressed. Decent show, but nothing like people have been building it up. Season 2 and 3 might be though, and I will find out.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
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noooooooooo
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.![]()
I don’t understand how someone could be unimpressed by Pier Pressure.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.![]()
Is someone going to have to teach marcello a lesson?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare![]()
Where is J. Walter Weatherman when you need him?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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He just needs some time with an analrapist.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perryby GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
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Unless he just blue himself.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
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IAWTC
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
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Best parts, so far
“I’ve made a terrible mistake.”
“On-yang.”
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
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Lucille is one of my top 5 television characters of all time
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare![]()
Which one?
Assuming the mother, I guess. Again, I’ve only seen Season 1 though. I’ve learned to give shows a bit more patience.
I’m not saying it’s bad, it’s still better than like 95% of the shit on TV, but that’s a pretty low standard. If it’s only as good as I’ve seen so far, it’s a shame that it’s no longer on TV and “How I Met Your Mother” still is, but I won’t shed a tear.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
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Yeah, she’s the mother.
“I love all my children equally!”
/earlier that day
“I don’t care for GOB.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare![]()
LOL FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.![]()
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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Hello
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP'sby Giant among Angels on Apr 23, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
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Hi
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010![]()
Yay I'm in the blue
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010![]()
The blue is owned by me
but we are replying in my block quote!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.![]()
What is going on with this part of the thread?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.![]()
I have no clue
It’s kinda scary.
But I wonder if it’s just Grant screwing with us somehowProud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.![]()
lol goddamn this is ridiculous
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team![]()
LOLWHAT?!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team/![]()
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE????
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
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NOW I AM IN HERE AND I WASN'T BEFORE!
TRICKERY!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
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That’s what he said.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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It’s a portal to an alternate universe!
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by rightcenterfielder on Apr 24, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
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Alright goddamnit
Who divided by zero?
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
BAH HAHAHA
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
You all should reload this thread
It’s gotten insane
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
yeah, i just did
wtf have I started here?!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
oh my, the nerbs are out in full force
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
:D
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
So that Romo guy is pretty good
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions
Predictable
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If only he had more than that one lousy pitch, he might make something of himself.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Oh no. Please god no. I don’t wanna z-scroll through this fight again. Just no. Please.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm feeling this way too
Even though I’ve participated somewhat
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I mean, me too, but that was one of those never ending fights and its been such a lovely evening with the win and all.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think everything has cooled off.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Perfect.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
predictable
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
No worries man.
I could act like all the other people on here and point out that Wilson was dominating in the 9th inning even though it was only one inning.
I could go back in the thread and point out all the people who were freaking out when TImmy went back in the 7th.
I could do all those things..
You just did.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I like Brian Wilson a lot.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Awesome!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What the hell is all this?
lol
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Game Thread Shenanegans
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I don’t know about the others, but my anti-Romo comments were made in jest. The guy hasn’t made one bad pitch this year, he’s made one bad pitch in his entire career, and it was hit out by a HOF player who uses PED’S. His K-BB numbers are insane, and that was the first time EVER that the Dodgers scored off of him.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
by rxmeister on Apr 24, 2010 7:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Romo
No really, he was good.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck yeah, Lars
He should get the save for pitching the 8th because of the hitters he had to face.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
He was awesome
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I totally agree
Plus, you are a really handsome guy
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Why thank you!
You are way too kind
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
People let me tell ya ’bout my best friend…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 24, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Doing the howie...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
wow Thomas Neal
2-3, 2 HR, 2R, 5RBI, 2 cheats
by TimLaser and MattyC on Apr 23, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions
HE'S REAL AGAIN!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
NEAL IS REAL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If he can cut down on the walks he might get called up this year.
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Belt with a bomb as well.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
Belt is... not made of felt?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If he keeps hitting like this, he’ll be earning more than Hanukkah gelt!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
This works
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Bat so hot
he could melt.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck yes
So pumped for him now that he’s started hot. Hypocrite? I don’t give a fuck. I just want a league min 1B that is at least a league average hitter. IS THAT SO MUCH TO FUCKING ASK?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Sadly, yes.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Is he a prospect? I can’t find much about him other than he was drafted in the 5th round from Texas (We sure love our Texas guys)
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
HE'S A TARP!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Seal the Real Deal!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my boy!
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 24, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the games where we win.
Lets keep doing that.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I like the games where we avenge
tossed beer cups from 1987.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants Win!
The sky isn’t falling!
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Remember what grant told us!
DON’T LET THEM SUCK YOU IN!!
ahh whatever. That was awesome, crappy offense and all.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
to me, these kinds of games from Lincecum than the games when he's unhittable and dominates
I mean, a lot of good pitchers can be dominant from time to time when they have great stuff. But Lincecum can go out there, struggle, have iffy command, throw mostly three pitches – and one’s a disaster (curveball), but has velocity but iffy command (fastball), and only the third is really looking good, and he can STILL post a 7 IP, 1 ER, 8 K line against a very good lineup. THAT’S something special. Lincecum is fucking amazing.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
by jcb9 on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
IAWTC x100.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
John Burkett was awesome
But in his wildest dreams he’s still not as good as Timmy.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
He is 1/2 of the last Giants pitchers to win 20 in a season, though.
Also, you only have to change 3 letters of his name to make mine. So he has that going for him, too.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
LOL wins for pitchers
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
well, yes
But having two pitchers with 20 wins each is still pretty cool, ‘cause it means you’ve probably got a pretty damn good team.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
true
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
And you skip the fifth starter
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 24, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I've read your subject 10 times
and I still have no idea what it means
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I missed a couple of words somehow
I mean to say, “to me, these kinds of games from Lincecum are even more impressive than the games when he’s unhittable and dominates”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/4/23/1440275/open-gamethread-4-23#35763958
I love the games where Lincecum looks off the entire night and somehow ends up with like 1 ER, 8 K’s, 2 BB’s over 7 innings.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
This was in the 3rd inning.
I was promised lasagna.
So was there any clear yay/nay consensus on the orange alternates in the gameday threads? What say you?
NOT AWFUL BUT AWESOME
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Never got why
some awe is great and a fullness of awe is a bad thing.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
because it's awful not awEful
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by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
so what's the difference between aw and awe
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
idk
just being a douche
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Thanks to roger
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The usage has changed over the centuries. It originally meant that you were full of awe about something.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Like "terrific"
“Terror” and “horror” mean basically the same thing. So do “terrible” and “horrible”. But “terrific” and “horrific” are total opposites.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, they're even synonyms
From thesaurus.com:
Terrific
Definition: intense
Synonyms: agitating, appalling, awesome, awful, deafening, disquieting, dreadful, enormous, excessive, extreme, fearful, fierce, formidable, frightful, gigantic, great, harsh, horrible, horrific, huge, immense, large, monstrous, severe, shocking, terrible, terrorizing, thunderous, tremendous, upsetting
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I was usually careful about using "awesome" because I could usually think of descriptive terms to describe what was otherwise "awesome".
Then everybody and their brother was rubber stamping everything and its neighbor “awesome” and the world went to hell.
To me, “awesome” meant something unequaled. Something that was so very incredible it defied words of explanation.
It left you in awe.
Barry’s swing.
Tim’s changeup.
The possibility that we are a fluke of the universe.
Christina Hendricks’ …well, she’s just, all, like, you know, totally.awesome.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 24, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems to be a pretty dividing issues.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I love them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Me too.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
should I get this

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
TWO HUNDRED AND TEN DOLLARS????
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
psssst – check eBay. Found a Timmy for $50. Gonna look for other alternatives.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
my panda and timmy ones were $250 each
PLUS postage
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
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by Tim LinCyYoung on Apr 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL BOW TIE!!
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HELL YES! GET ME ONE TOO!
This is all kinds of awesome.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Makes me want a 50/50 bar
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If jponry loves them, I must love them too.
/minion
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GROUGTHINK!
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
meh. i wouldn't buy one
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
I’m going to.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn’t in the gameday threads (they don’t interact well with mlb.tv on my computer), but I’m not a fan.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Meh
I would like a different pants to go with it.
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I really don’t see what the problem with the pants was.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think black pants would go better
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Maybe on October 31. Otherwise I thought it looked cool. But not very slimming on Molina or Panda.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love to see the Giants playing baseball on October 31st. Let’s make this happen.
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Isn’t that the day of the all star game this year?
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
I wouldn’t mind seeing this at least once.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
+1
Probably with the stripe, though I don’t know how that would look.
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WRONG!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Love 'em
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
I prefer the french vanilla.
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by rightcenterfielder on Apr 23, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t think I would like them very much, but the orange is muted enough that I don’t have much of any reaction. Not ugly enough to get irked about, not cool enough to get excited about. The only reaction it gets out of me is “Oh, another promotion idea. Huh.”
by Seasick fish on Apr 23, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They were good
The pants weren’t great but they were workable
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
They're okay
But if they reversed the colors — black jerseys, orange numbers… Oh-la-la!
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
THE WORST INVENTION OF ALL TIME
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They need orange pants too
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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Carnak: the answer is "cream pants."
the question: ………..
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I liked them.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
WAINO WUZ RONG!
Seriously. We are lucky to witness this dude. Even on his “bad” days.
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
Wow Andrew Jones hits 2 HRs on his birthday
including a walk off HR
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
andruw*
silly spelling
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
he ruins a good name with that spelling
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ANDRUWOO
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Andrew-yoo Jones.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
it's sad cause 3 of those runs were batted in by STL
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
SILENCE
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Scoreboard.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Did you guys see Tex's hit on Wilson Angels Catcher
It’s times like these when I can’t wait until we face them off in world series and fucking destroy them! I hate the YANKEES classless assholes!
also, A-Rod.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I just saw that shit. Texeira threw an elbow. What a douchebag.
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He also didn’t even bother to check if he was ok. The guy had to be helped off the field. Concussion and left ankle.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Assuming we get to the Wrold Series, I hope we dont face the Yankees. lets destroy, like, the Orioles instead.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
C'mon now.
If you’re going to dream, be reasonable. Orioles have a good young core, but will need a few seasons to put it together – and even then, the Yankees, Rays, and Red Sox aren’t going away. Better off hoping the A’s starting pitching carries them to a playoff berth in the West, and then flukes a few series wins out, if you want to face a weak team.
Yeah, except the A’s pitching would carry them past us too. (We kinda suck at the hitting aspect of the game)
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It's okay.
Just hope for lots of errors.
Gahhhhh, fuck you Cardinals.
Renteria would be clutch again!
LOL Bochy
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Question
Was Holliday actually safe at the plate? Was just watching the highlight, it looks like he was out…
What did mcc think at the time
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
This
but he was safe. on a better throw he would have been out.
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I thought he was out. He was tucking his legs.
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this
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Tucking is only allowed to count against Bay Area sports teams.
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I thought he was out.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
NOW HE’S FALLEN BEHIND HALLADAY IN ERA WILL NEVER WIN CY YOUNG!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
fuck.
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
Bleh
Figures.
At least it shows DeRo has a decent enough arm out of left.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
He showed he had a noodle. Spent 5 seconds winding up for the throw too.
Be careful with me. I'm sensitive and I'd like to stay that way.
by cybermaldonado on Apr 23, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Bowker have any kind of arm? ‘Cause I’m fine with Uribe at short and DeRosa at second, batting second.
/iwish
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HAZ SAD
thinking about F. Sanchez coming back and putting Jose’s Nephew on the bench.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
/seconds wish
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
eh it was a pretty close play..but i thought he was out
derosa’s throw was totally lame thoough
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
+1
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
whatever; i’m sure it’s Bochy’s fault
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU’VE BEEN CHASMED!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
but I knew it was the double-reverse chasm
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
he was out
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He looked safe but a throw on-line would have nabbed him.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
nice win for the week
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
FOR THE TASTY ORANGE SWARM!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
I love how 4 gift runs was an offensive explosion for this team.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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2 of ’em on errors
1 of ’em on a wild pitch
1 of ’em on a bases loaded, 2 out infield single
LOL US
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
You know
This just might be a 2000 Pedro Martinez type season. I’m getting that vibe.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I don’t understand what the problem was with the black home jerseys. I would like to see those again.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:07 PM PDT reply actions
I think the problem with them was the black-on-black combo.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to say something but.(and it wasn’t the violent aspect of it)
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Be careful
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are lurkers on this board
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
love the Black
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by cybermaldonado on Apr 23, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They had losses in them
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
YESSSSSS
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Apr 23, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
BAD LUCK
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I really wish the Giants had signed Kelly Johnson instead of Freddy Sanchez.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Bah
How many batting titles does Kelly Johnson have?
THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I just remembered at the chalk talk last year how Sabean said he didn’t like free agency because you’re paying for what a player did in the past, not what he’ll do in the future.
And like two questions later he said he wanted Freddy Sanchez because he won a batting title.
:’)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m in the sheepish line on this one, being one of the more ardent Sanchez supporters here. Hopefully he comes back at some point and kills it, because this is annoying right now.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I wasn’t really against the signing… until it came out that he was, you know, injured. And that a bunch of similar players signed for less money than him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm in this line
I liked the signing because I thought he could be decent…and then the injury was announced and the FA market played out and Sabes lookeds like a jackass
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
And that they knew about the injury and signed him anyway.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
in case you missed it in the gameday threads, the Cardinals announcers said they talked to Mark DeRosa before the game, and he said he doesn’t know if his wrist would ever be 100 % again.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
Old players get hurt?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
While you were typing that, Freddy Sanchez felt a tingling sensation in his throwing arm
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yeah
I’m an apologist too, I think Freddy will be good when he gets back, but every day he’s on the DL makes it harder to reconcile.
Plus I’m scared to death that Bochy will play Rent/Sanchez instead of Uribe/Sanchez
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Plus I’m scared to death that Bochy will play Rent/Sanchez instead of Uribe/Sanchez
That’s because he will.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
I would bet everything I own and my children on this.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This makes me a little sad.
At least Uribe’s versatility can let him get a good number of starts, while rotating infielders around.
Sanchez can sit.
Uribe goes to short. Rent comes in as a late inning bunter.
And at second base?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
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That would've been nice
Also, Felipe Lopez would’ve been nice. A $1 million dollar utility infielder when we need MIF depth (Sabean said that BEFORE he traded Frandsen)
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
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You can't have Floppy!
He was an incredible signing, that made sense to a lot of teams. I actually would like to see the Giants use Uribe in the manner the Cards use Floppy. Getting ~100 starts a year, at second/short/third, keeping people fresh.
Yeah, Boras really screwed Lopez
although I think his reputation of “bad clubhouse guy” combined with his high BABIP last year hurt him. That said, a 1 million dollar deal could be a steal for you guys. I hope Uribe becomes our starting SS and Rent goes on the DL with the Rich Aurilia fake injury.
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Lopez is hurt right now as well. Last night’s pinch hitting appearance was his first appearance in a week, and he’s still not ready to return to the lineup.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
Hmmm I wonder if when Lopez returns
If he’ll be the starting 3B or if they’ll go with Freese…
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
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Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Freese.
Floppy will still get a big chunk of starts, but they won’t be at any one position. He’ll get a ton of plate appearances at second, short, and third, keeping guys fresh and such.
But Freese doesn't have veteran grit
I’m so confused by this managing style…anyway do you know if Lopez plays any LF?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
He can play everyone except
Catcher and Center Field, fairly reasonably. He probably ‘could’ play center, I guess….but hasn’t, so far in his career.
Wow didn't know he was that versatile
That’s great value for 1 million bucks
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Yeah, it's a retarded deal.
His defense is very much average, nothing special, but..the ability for him to be almost an every day player, just…at random positions, is great for both giving guys a day off, and filling in if someone tweaks something, etc. Also can do some double switch funtimes late in games with him pinch hitting for pitchers, and not really lose anything offensively or defensively when he swaps in for an infielder.
I loved the signing at the time, and I love it even more, now. I mean…how often do you get guys who were 4 WAR the year before for that cheap? As a comparison, Alex Rodriguez was worth 4.7 WAR last year. (Yes, he was injured a bit, but Felipe isn’t really a full time player anyways). Loldiscount?
Yeah I'm thinking it must be the "bad character issues" label he received
I mean I can’t really see why a team would sign Adam Kennedy before Lopez
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
And he can pitch!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Haha.
I still can’t believe the Mets didn’t score off of him. I just about fell off my chair when I saw him bust out the curve. Pujols almost went down to one knee at first, he was laughing so hard.
It must have been incredibly depressing to the Mets, and their fans.
Le Sigh
Good game and shit, guys. Wish the Cards would have won, obviously, but Timmy got outs when he needed to. Of course, the MVP of the game was the Cardinal defense. Pretty much handed you guys 3-4 runs on a silver fucking platter. Could have been a much different game if it’s 1-1 late, as opposed to 4-1.
Ah well. Tomorrow is another day.
Classy
Unlike the Cardinals announcers.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Oh my. What’d they say?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Timmy didn’t deserve the Cy Young last season.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Sore losers are sore!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
SOMEONE SHOW THEM THE SPREADSHEETS
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
NO! CAUSE THEN I WOULD HAVE TO MOMENTARILY STOP CLUTCHING IT
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
First guy: The oddity of him winning last year was he only had 15 wins
Second guy: The oddity about Tim Lincecum winning the Cy Young was he shouldn’t have won it.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
The oddity is that these two assholes are given a microphone and an outlet with which to share their stupid with the rest of the world.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The guys at VEB are complaining about Kruk and Jon, for the record. lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just that they’re homers.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
YOU CAN (minute of silence) PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOAAAAAAAARD!
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There’s a Hawk Harrelson soundboard.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
To PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAAAAARD, press 1.
To expound on Pierzynski’s greatness, press 2.
Para español, numero tres.
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I will hunt down the next person who reminds me that I lost Kruk, Kuip, David B Flemming, and Miller and moved out to the Midwest where the best I can do is listen to the Sox’s announcers’ drivel.
The worst homer announcer I have ever heard is
Tim Kempton, of the Phoenix Suns broadcast team.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you heard Tim Leitner do Padres games?
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ted, not Tim.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 23, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Hello pot? This is kettle. You’re black.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It always flabbergasts me when people complain about our announcers
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Wow. Those people make their broadcasters look like fucking geniuses in comparison.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, I think most people are just used to announcers rooting for their team slightly and when you get the opposite, it stands out even more.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This.
I’ve never listened to another team’s broadcast when the announcers didn’t come across as homers, even if it was subtler than usual. And yes, that includes the Giants. My favorite announcer (Since Buck’s untimely passing) is Jon Miller, though.
I guess I can see this but I still think that’s stupid. Kruk and Kuip are lower down on the homer list compared to a lot of broadcasters.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk is much more of a homer than Kuip
Kuip sometimes calls him on it. Kruk really homerizes on balls and strikes, and on long fly balls…if an opponent hits a long ball, it’s “the balls are really carrying today.” If a Giant hits one, it’s all power and hands and squaring up, etc etc.
I grew up with the greatness of Ernie Harwell, very little homerism, a really nice guy.
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Oh god.
I loathe Joe Morgan with the intensity of a thousand suns. Had Morgan in the booth for the Cards/Mets game other day, and he called a Wainright curveball a ‘bad pitch’, because he didn’t bounce it in the dirt. Was a called strike.
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by jctGamer on Apr 23, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
still great
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t think the Giants announcers are awful in terms of homerism (through Kruk can be when he starts making excuses), but it’s also because I’m used to watching them and I expect them to root for the Giants a little bit.
Still, it seems like they usually admit it if a bad call goes the Giants way and they give credit to the other team for being good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And also: “Giants’ Baseball is Torture!”
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than doing it in national broadcasts. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Chris Rose and Eric Karros.
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That was a disgrace.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m honestly surprised Eric Karros has time to broadcast for the Nationals. Doesn’t that interfere with all the time he has to spend tending to his hair?
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa. I stopped paying attention while I was typing
That should have been “to do national broadcasts.” Too much baseball on the mind.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Karros
had a gay male stalker.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
This is from the broadcast last Saturday, I assume? What all did they say? The Mets game was on here instead, and mlb.tv was, of course, blacked out. And I don’t think I was on gameday much that day.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I don't remember any specifics
Basically ridiculous Dodger homer bullshit. If I recall, at one point there was something about Sandoval having no power or something similar.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
PABLO HAS NO POWER
also, isn’t clutch.
/adjusts roadkill wig in mirror.
As jponry said, it was fucking disgraceful. Totally pulling for the Dodgers the whole time. Talking up the Bums and talking “analytical” trash about the Giants.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I remember Karros saying something like
“Not a lot of guys hit Lincecum very well”
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
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Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
THIS JUST IN
WATER WET
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All of this
And also, they do criticize Giants players when its deserved and I can think of several broadcasters out there who would never think to do this
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk kinda stinks sometimes. And I think he sounds like George W. Bush for some reason.
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Ya ive posted over at the Cardinals site a couple times, there are pretty cool over there.
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Cheers
I get the impression that a lot of other teams fans like to post here because we’re so hyper-active.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
It's exceptionally hard
to follow two different game threads at once, that have similar levels of activity. Was a pretty slow night at VEB, though. only 1700 comments or something. I lurk here pretty often, though infrequently post.
Stay away from Purple Row
They won’t like you.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Yeah...about that.
I might have been banned at Purple Row on another account.
by Voxx on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 14 recs
Someone pissed me off, I went on a rant.
Called them fucking delusional, among other things. Post, and responses deleted, and I got banhammered.
by Voxx on Apr 23, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
You can stay
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
It's ok
They’re a bunch of motherfucking Tim Tebows over there anyway
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u r not TrulyBlessed
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I love you.
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WELCOME, OUR CARDINAL FRIEND, WELCOME!
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You can stay.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
twss
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You're a good dude (dudette?)
We obviously got very lucky tonight. Hope you stick around our insane asylum.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I manage to amuse myself here.
I loathe the Dodgers, so those game threads in particular entertain me.
I think you just know what to say to get us to like you!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That's fucking terrifying.
My hair isn’t that curly.
What are your thoughts on
throwing beer on outfielders while they are trying to make catches?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You are a cards fan no?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a Cards fan, yes.
But that sort of shitty behavior is generally only seen at Wringley. Well. Or Chavez.
Occasionally a fan of a random team will do something retarded, due to the fact that people in general are fucking morons. But… you’re going to see a larger percentage of douchebaggery in the two aforementioned places.
We caught some pretty douchey Braves fans during opening weekend.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
History will repeat itself!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
At the Stadium, or at McC?
Was mostly just Braves1 spewing fecal matter from his oral cavity, if I recall correctly.
At the stadium, and the dudes at Talking Chop were apparently being pretty unsavory characters.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I'm just remembering 1987 that's all.
I still kind of hate the cardinals. Jeffery Leonard getting beer thrown on him at trying to make a catch on the warning track, Joe Buck, Tim McCarver, need I go on? It’s nothing against you, I just have an irrational hatred that I can’t seem to shake.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
THE CARDINALS ARE DEAD! THE GIANTS ARE GOING TO THE WORLD SERIES!
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Hating McCarver is natural.
Dude’s a total tool. But Buck? :(
He means Joe, not Jack.
If you’re surprised someone hate Joe Buck… well…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I dunno, he was talking about 1987. Joe Buck was like 18 then.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Yeah...
I’m not exactly a Joe Buck fan, but…it was in ‘87. If he actually meant Joe when he typed ’Joe’, then my apologies for the reaction. But if you meant ‘Jack’ when you typed ‘Joe’, them be fightin’ words.
87
only applied to the Jeffery Leonard incident.That is in a bucket of Cardinal hate with Joe Buck, and Tim McCarver. I should throw Oquendo in there too. Good thing Candy clocked him.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I can empathize with the Leonard incident. Was a dick move that was lambasted even by Cardinal fans.
I can’t really blame anyone for disliking McCarver, or JOE Buck, though.
I just need to get these feelings out
at the beginning of every Cardinal Series or I’ll just go nuts.
THe Jim Edmunds/Willie Mays comps also sickened me.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Lawl.
Jimmy Ballgame is one of my favorite players of all-time players, and I’d love to see him pad some counting numbers to get some Hall consideration (even though he won’t make it).
But comparing to him to one of the greatest, if not ‘the’ greatest all-around players to ever live is just blasphemy. You won’t find many rational fans that would have made that comparison.
But then again, people are calling this J-Hey kid by such a nickname. So the intelligence and rational thought of human beings must be called into question.
Edmonds is criminally underrated. I hope he makes the hall.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
/breaks in on ball, turns around and makes diving basket catch
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The idiots that had the nerve to support
Pujols over Bonds in past MVP debates annoy me as well. All this Cardinal negativity.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Some of the years is was pretty close.
Some of the years, it really wasn’t. The real crime was the year Ryan Howard won it, though. Pujols had the better season.
In a just world, Pujols would be venerated by the unwashed masses. Instead, Teixeira (a great player) is.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Pujols was completely robbed that year by Howard. I still can’t get over what an obvious choice it was and they still messed it up.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Colon over Santana
Was similarly egregious.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Ugh don’t remind me of that one. THAT was awful. Literally the only stat where Colon was better than Santana was wins. I think Santana even had a better WPCT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Should I mention
Bonds v. Pendelton?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't disagree
I’m just having a cathartic moment.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
OBJECTION
Cubs fans don’t get laid.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Seriously
It’s like, “Are you flirting with me?”
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Back away
He or she is mine.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
I'm trying to decide whether
to be amused, concerned, or interested (or all of the above) by this subthread.
I'd go with concerned.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Yeah Timmy didn't deserve the cy young
Cause he fucking murdered wainwright and carpenter. Stfu announcers if timmy had any offense like the cards he would be 32-0. / remembers giants offense and cries!
Now that I’ve seen the pictures, I can conclude that those orange uniforms are absolutely fantastic. More beautiful than Rally Christina Hendricks, even. THERE I SAID IT
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rally’s me every time
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by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Or leave unkindly
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I think she’s hot. Not quite enough to qualify as a girl crush, but I can appreciate her.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. I’m in this category. She’s not my ultimate girl crush by far but no one has to explain why she’s hot to me. I get it.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is it that when girl has a girl crush, it’s incredibly hot, but if I have a man crush I’m laughed out of the room like some kind of 5 legged cat?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
It’s not hot, but it’s kinda cute.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine's Sergio Romo.
Deal with that, haterz!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Romoulan
/raises shields
if Freddie Sanchez, Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
My man crushes
Just about every Sharks player.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Boyle
/Swoon
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Boyle is a handsome dude
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Looks about 15
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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Well done.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 23, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
As opposed to Vlasic, who looks like he’s 12.
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That, he is.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Joe Pavelski isn’t bad either.
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Joe Pavelski and Torrey Mitchell are probably the best-looking players on the Sharks. Greiss is a close runner-up, IMO.
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This will forever make me LOL
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I raise you Douglas Murray

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"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Hm
He looks smaller than I imagined. He must just be incredibly strong.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Wait, where’s the pic of Murray tearing off his shirt? That’s the best one, IMO.
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Found it

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Fools and Sages
hahahahaha wtf
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sweden is a weird country
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hahahahaha
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 23, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
What the ?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I contribute my own girl crush to the gameday threads anyway.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
who doesn't have a crush on Ichiro??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ummm.
I think he’s overrated as a hitter. Dynamite in the OF though.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
???
Nine straight 200-hit seasons is overrated?
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His Average tends to be kind of 'empty', though.
Doesn’t walk much, doesn’t display a ton of power in games, etc. I still think he’s an incredibly valuable player based on the strength of his contact ability, PLUS his amazing defense – but as a pure hitter, he’s not as valuable to a team as some are.
/shrug
He’s doing his job as a leadoff hitter. He’s demonstrated that he an hit for power, but that’s not his plate approach. Because his job is to get on base, and he’s best at getting his bat on the ball.
It comes down to what you value, and ignoring defense and health, I’d STILL take Ichiro in a lineup over Nick Johnson.
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This
I think he’s meant for a team who is going with the “small ball” approach because that’s pretty much his game.
01.19.2010
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Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
It's hard to ignore health
in that comp. We don’t really know what a healthy Nick Johnson would produce in terms of power, to offset his slightly lower average. He would walk a shit-ton more, of course.
But, I don’t really want to find out either, as I detest the Yankees.
Nick Johnson is mostly valued because of his OBP, which comes from BB numbers well above league average. That’s what I meant to suggest.
You know what you’re getting with Nick Johnson at this point anyway. High OBP, occasional power, and maybe 130 games if you’re lucky. If you don’t like Johnson for the comp, then I pose a hypothetical player who is healthy and puts up Johnson’s numbers.
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We don’t really know what a healthy Nick Johnson would produce in terms of power, to offset his slightly lower average.
Voxx is right.
Johnson had slugging percentages upwards of .550 before he got injured, so sans injuries he looked to be a bona fide star.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
And Edgar Renteria used to be able to hit. Nick Johnson is not the hitter now that he was then. Current product != former product.
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Just the fact that you compared Ichiro to NJ makes my point
Some believe that Ichiro is some god like creature who fell from the sky in the prime of his career, and yeah, he’s better than NJ, but…
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
But what? I consider a player that’s averaged 5 WAR a year with consistent, excellent production on offense and defense a pretty damn good player.
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Yes.
I think the point a lot of sabermetric folks make is that Ichiro is possibly gimping his value with his extreme contact nature. If he worked counts a little better, drew more walks, and tried to drive the ball more often, his value would very likely increase.
He’s curerntly incredibly valuable, even just based off his defense alone – but the ‘what he could be’ nature of his game frustrates some people.
But some people think he is a top 5, top 10 player.
He’s not in my opinion. That is all I’m saying.
I think Pete Rose is overrated too and mostly for the same reasons, except he couldn’t play D anything like Ichiro.
Think about the difference in production between Bonds and Rose, Aaron and Rose, Mays and Rose, and some people hold them in equal esteem. Same thing with Ichiro, he’s no Albert Pujols.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Johnson has nowhere near 28 win shares.
Not even close to the same player. The comp is laughable.
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I didn't make the comp.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure who started the win share thing
But win shares suck.
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Agreed.
Terrible metric, in my mind. I prefer WAR, even though it has it’s own flaws.
Even when you compare WAR
Ichiro has been a consistently over 5 WAR player.
Ichiro generated 39.4 WAR in 8 seasons.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1101&position=OF
That’s an average of over 4.9 War per season.
Ryan Howard :
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2154&position=1B#value
Manny Ramirez :
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=210&position=OF#value
David Ortiz :
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=745&position=DH#value
None of them generated 5 WAR per season.
Ichiro is a top 10 player in the American League over the last 10 years, and a top 10 player is not overrated.
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With me, it's not a case of him being overrated.
It’s a case where I think he could bring even MORE value, if he had a slightly different approach at the plate. The guy is a special hitter, but with a more patient approach, while combined with his exceptional contact skills, I simply think he’d put out more overall production, even if his batting average drops.
+1
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Dude, you're overreacting.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
When somebody calls Ichiro overrated
you bet I’m over reacting.
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Someone's got a mancrush!!!!
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I think it’s romantic.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
I thought Ichiro was overrated back in the day, but I didn’t know shit about defense back then. Now, I’m a huge fan.
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Regarding the WAR argument with the players you linked.
A lot of hitters who would be in the discussion for top 10-15, either DH (positional impact, no fielding value), or play god awful defense (Hi Manny). Ichiro has tremendous value in the field, although there are a decent chunk of hitters with better patience/power who provide more offensive value.
Is he a good hitter? Of course he is. Is he a top 10 player based on his hitting alone? No, I don’t think so. That is how some people could consider him overrated, I guess. I wouldn’t use that term. I would have liked to see him have a better (or at least different) approach at the plate, though.
But again, we come to perception vs reality
Ichiro’s skillsets are so different than anybody else in baseball, you cannot accurately project him based 100% on his stats.
PECOTA, year after year, projects Ichiro to hit under .300 the following season. The data just doesn’t plug in correctly. There IS no comp for Ichiro, so comp systems that relies on league averages as a centering point fails.
Ichiro’s stats in Japan :
http://www.japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=ichiro
Of course, he only gets 500 AB in Japan vs the 650 AB he gets in the states, and he hits 15-20 HRs every season.
He sacrifices power for higher BA because that’s what he needed to do to play in America. If he hits for low .300 with 20 HR, he’d just be another Milton Bradley.
His ability to run the bases once he gets on puts a lot more pressure on the opposing team, and as the leadoff hitter, that’s what he needs to do. He is doing his job to hit at top of the lineup.
And there is no comp for Ichiro. He is also the only player that wears his first name on his Jersey instead of his last name. Why?
Because he is Ichiro. No last name required.
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It shows that modern statistical analysis tools that uses comp and league average fail to predict the true value of Ichiro, they consider him an outlier every single year.
It’s like BABIP. When you see a .370+ BABIP you immediately say “oh that’s not sustainable”. But Ichiro finds a way to sustain it year after year. His skill set is so different that he does not regress to the mean.
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To further examine Ichiro's entire body of work as a position player and a hitter
As a leadoff hitter, Suzuki reached base to start an inning 109 times in 287 chances last year, 38% of the time.
Among other leadoff leaders, Chone Figgins reached base 111 times in 299 leadoff innings, a .371 percentage. Derek Jeter reached 117 in the 264 innings he led off, a great .443 percentage.
Suzuki had 358 at bats that lasted 4 or more pitches. He had 52 that lasted 7 or more pitches. He had 53 at bats when he put the first pitch in play, but he had a 1.218 OPS when he did.
Among other leaders, Jeter had 362 at-bats of 4 or more pitches, with 38 lasting 7 or more pitches.
In baserunning, James has Suzuki as being +32 bases over average last year, even though only 8 of those bases are from stealing. Suzuki scored from second on a single 13 times in 20 chances last season, went from first to home on a double 7 times in 10 opportunities, and grounded into only 1 double play in 93 opportunities.
He took 23 "extra bases" while only being tagged out one time.
In clutch hitting situations last year, Bill James has Suzuki with this line: .348/.411/.500. Pretty great, considering that a lot of clutch situations come against top closers.
For his career, he’s listed at .314/.389/.416 in clutch situations.
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"A top 10 player is not overrated."
OK.
Alex Rodriguez is the greatest player this sport has seen since Babe Ruth.
Hanley Ramirez is the best defensive SS of all times.
Chase Utley can kill a dragon with one hand while masturbating with the second hand and making a delicious sandwich with the third
I’m not overrating any of these players – after all, they’re top 10 players, and top 10 player cannot be overrated. Apparently.
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well nobody is saying Ichiro slays dragons. In fact, based on his MVP voting the last 10 years everyone considers him a top 10 player in the American League, in the 7-8 range, and that’s where he should be.
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The original claim (and the one I’m defending) is that he’s overrated as a hitter, not as a player.
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at this point we are just going around saying the same thing over and over. You think he is over rated as a hitter, I don’t think so. I think he is a top 10 hitter in the league and should be valued as such. Is he the best hitter in the AL? No. But I will challenge anybody that says Ichiro is not as good of a “hitter” than Nick Johnson or Adam Dunn.
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You haven’t even tried to make any arguments for Ichiro as a that a top 10 hitter! You’ve only argued that he’s a top 10 player.
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You can argue with Joe Posnanski then
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/10/17/best-pure-hitters/
Ichiro Suzuki, #12 best pure hitter sin 1947.
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Best “pure hitter” (in other words, contact hitter), not best hitter. Nobody is doubting that Ichiro is fantastic contact hitter. NOBODY. That doesn’t make him a top 10 overall hitter.
I mean, that list has Derek Jeter 7 spots above Barry Bonds. Obviouly it was not intended to identify great hitters. He even makes it clear in the article itself.
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but that’s where the argument breaks down. If Ichiro hits a single and steals second base, is it as good as a double?
If he hits a double and steals 3rd base, and comes home on a ground out, where is that measured in wOBA?
Here’s where I’ll leave this argument. For anybody who thinks Ichiro is the SINGLE BEST hitter in baseball because of his batting average, he is overrating Ichiro.
However, for the “stat nerds” such as us that looks at wOBA as the end all be all model that fits every player in baseball, Ichiro is underrated because his (non repeatable by any other player) ability to make contact and utilize his speed. A walk is sometimes as good as a single, but not always. Ichiro gets to close to 400 on base off of almost pure hits.
Also one last thing of note : It’s not as if Ichiro has no power whatsoever. Last season he hit 31 doubles, 4 triples, and 11 HR. His SLG is deflated because he gets so many damn at bats, where he gets singles instead of walks.
By contrast, Pablo has 44 doubles, 1 triple and 25 HR. Ichiro was ~20 extra base hits away from Sandoval.
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If he hits a double and steals 3rd base, and comes home on a ground out, where is that measured in wOBA?
Well, wOBA is a hitting stat, so it accounts for the fact that he hit a double. It also accounts for SB, actually, even though that’s not part of hitting.
A walk is sometimes as good as a single, but not always.
Right. With nobody on, they’re identical. With a runner on, a single is better. This would be relevant if Ichiro drew more walks with nobody on. But he doesn’t – he draws significantly fewer walks when the bases are empty. So this point doesn’t help you.
Ichiro is underrated because his (non repeatable by any other player) ability to make contact and utilize his speed
No he isn’t. His ability to make contact affects his wOBA. Why wouldn’t it? His ability to reach base on infield hits affects his wOBA. Why would you think that it doesn’t? Why do you think that wOBA (or any other stat, you brought up wOBA) underrates these abilities?
The only (hitting related thing) that Ichiro is good at and isn’t accounted for in wOBA is not hitting into DP. That gives him another 5 runs a year. It doesn’t come close to making him a top 10 hitter.
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as far as I know, wOBA does not account for steals or taking the extra base.
Also, the point is with man on base, a strike out is the worst thing you can do, and Ichiro doesn’t strike out compared to, say Adam Dunn. Drawing a walk CAN help you, getting a base hit in that situation is GUARANTEED to help you. Moreover, even putting the ball in play can help you.
Gotta run out for now, will come back in a few hours (not complete thought). Wife is pissed at me for posting this while they are walking to the car.
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wOBA (the one on Fangraphs) does account for steals.
Also, the point is with man on base, a strike out is the worst thing you can do, and Ichiro doesn’t strike out compared to, say Adam Dunn.
The worst thing you can do is actually double play. The second worst thing you can do is make an out. It doesn’t matter what kind of out. There is little to no difference between a strikeout, a pop out, a groundout, and a flyout.
Drawing a walk CAN help you, getting a base hit in that situation is GUARANTEED to help you.
But why is this relevant to Ichiro? We know hits are worth more than walks. wOBA accounts for the fact that hits are worth more than walks. Why are we suddenly questioning the entire way in which we evaluate hitters? Just because it’s omg Ichiro, and he simply HAS to be a great hitter?
Here’s a fact – from 2001 to 2003, Ichiro was 57th in the majors in wOBA among qualifying players. From 2004 to 2006 he was 48th. 2007-2009 he was 56th. And that’s including his SB’s, which we really shouldn’t if we’re talking about hitting. The difference between him and the 10th best hitter was 30-40 runs a year. Even if you bump him up for all the little things – DP’s, playing in a pitchers’ park, reaching on errors, productive outs, it cannot possibly make for that many runs.
Ichiro is a very good hitter, a very very good offensive player, and a great, great player. I’m not even saying that he’s overrated as a player – while his offense is based on the two most overrated skills in the game (contact, base-running), he’s also a fantastic fielder, which is one of the most underrated skills. He’s on his way to the HOF dispite starting his MLB career at age 27, which is remarkable. But there is simply no reason to consider him a top 10 hitter, and the fact that he’s a unique hitter, or that he’s hard to project, or that he’s incredible at certain aspects of hitting cannot change that.
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His SLG is deflated because he gets so many damn at bats, where he gets singles instead of walks.
By contrast, Pablo has 44 doubles, 1 triple and 25 HR. Ichiro was ~20 extra base hits away from Sandoval.
Slugging is a ratio stat. The number of at bats you get should not factor into the overall power talent level a player has.
There’s a reason percentages are used as a reference more than raw numbers.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
But his job as a leadoff hitter is to get on base, not put his bat on the ball. And he’s very good at getting on base, but far from elite. He’s only been in the top 10 three times in his career.
Ichiro is a great player, but he’s not a great hitter.
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The job as a leadoff hitter is also to see as many pitches as he can.
Suzuki had 358 at bats that lasted 4 or more pitches. He had 52 that lasted 7 or more pitches. He had 53 at bats when he put the first pitch in play, but he had a 1.218 OPS when he did.
Among other leaders, Jeter had 362 at-bats of 4 or more pitches, with 38 lasting 7 or more pitches.
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Oh and another thing
Regarding the whole “he doesn’t hit for power because he’s the leadoff hitter” thing:
About a third of his career PA’s are with runners on base. His SLG in those PA’s? .424 – 14 points lower than his SLG when the bases are empty. His SLG when there are 2 outs is .425.
Ichiro doesn’t hit for power, period. He doesn’t hit for power when he’s leading off, and he doesn’t hit for power when there are runners on, and he doesn’t hit for power when there are two outs – he simply doesn’t hit for power, regardless of the situation. Maybe he could hit for power if he wanted to and maybe he couldn’t, but that’s not relevant. He doesn’t, even when the situation calls for it, and it’s one of the reasons he’s not a great hitter.
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Ichiro is so successful because he combines an incredibly high ground ball percentage (3rd in MLB) with the highest infield hit percentage in the game. What’s more, Ichiro basically does not hit fly balls (2nd lowest in MLB), which, as we’d expect, limits his power potential but it drives his high batting average. On top of that, he was second in the league in bunt hit percentage (among players with at least 6 bunts). That’s pretty unique – both in that he is so consistently at the extremes and in that, unlike fellow ground ballers Luis Castillo and Tony Pena, he doesn’t suck.
While PECOTA has not caught on, Ichiro has a pretty well established ability to consistently make more productive contact than the typical hitter. In 2007 he posted a .390 BABIP – high, even for him, but not that high, at least for him. He has a career .359 BABIP. Heck, it was not even a career high. Not surprisingly, that came in 2004, the year he knocked 262 hits, thanks to a .401 BABIP. By comparison, Ted Williams only managed a .378 BABIP in 1941. That was one of three seasons that he struck out fewer times than he went yard, which led to his .406 batting average, despite the low babip.
Ichiro puts his bat on the ball. All the time. His objective is to hit the ball, put the ball in play, and make the pitcher work. When there is a man on 3rd base less than two outs, who do you want at the plate?
I’ll take my chances with Ichiro and his high productive contact (and his 10% career strike out rate) over players like Nick Johnson (high on base) and Adam Dunn (high on base and power).
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You’re so off track I’m not sure what to say. Look, it’s clear that you like Ichiro, and that’s cool, abut you’re making all kind weird arguments about what a special hitter Icihro is, which is obvious, while completely ignoring how valuable he is.
And Adam Dunn is a much better hitter than Ichiro. Not a better player, but a much better hitter. He even gets on base more. Johnson is a bit better too.
I was promised lasagna.
Oh
And yes, Ichiro is more likely to drive in a runner at 3B with less than two outs than Dunn or Johnson are. Is this how we judge hitters now? Is Juan Pierre better than Dunn too?
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No, Juan Pierre doesn’t have the bat control of Ichiro. It’s why despite his great speed and his 6% strike out rate, he hits less than .300.
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Yeah, but he still has a much much much better AVG than Dunn. Why is he not a better hitter? Because Dunn’s power and OBP make up for it, no?
Look, I might be misremembering, but I’m pretty you’re not a guy who just judges hitters by their AVG. This makes this argument very weird. Because AVG is the only hitting metric ever invented that would say that Ichiro is a better hitter than Dunn, or that he’s a top-10 hitter, or anything like that. So it’s like you’re basically saying “screw everything we know, I just love Ichiro” – which is great, but it doesn’t make him any better than he actually is.
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One dimmensional with the bat.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
And then there’s the style of Ichiro … the unique warm-up golf swing, the way he breaks out of the box while he swings the bat, the way he purposely jams himself sometimes to get a hit (has anyone ever gotten more hits on pop ups that drop behind the third baseman, to the left of the shortstop and in front of the left fielder?), the way he sometimes muscles up sometimes and drives the ball out — there are many around the game who think that Ichiro could hit 25-30 home runs if he was willing to sacrifice hits and batting average, which he is not.
here are a few fun Ichiro tidbits to chew on:
– He has played nine seasons … and he has led the American league in singles ALL NINE YEARS. Nobody else has ever led a league in singles nine times.
– Ichiro missed the entire 2000 season … and still had more hits than any player in the decade — he had 90 more hits than second-place Derek Jeter.
– As Bill James points out … only Pete Rose, Sam Rice and Rogers Hornsby managed 2,000 hits in a decade. Ichiro, though, was the only one of the four to miss an entire season in that decade.
– Here’s a fun little list you can carry around in your wallet.
Most times with 260 hits: Ichiro (1)
Most times with 240 hits: Ichiro and George Sisler (2)
Most times with 230 hits: Ichiro (3)
Most times with 220 hits: Ichiro (5)
Most times with 210 hits: Ichiro, Paul Waner, Ty Cobb (7)
Most times with 200 hits: Pete Rose (10), Ichiro and Cobb (9).– Pete Rose once told me that nobody — NOBODY — was going to break his hit record and, to punctuate the point, added: "And you can tell Ichiro he can count his hits in Japan."
Well, of course, they played shorter seasons in Japan. But, by my count, Ichiro had 1,278 hits in Japan. That would give him 3,308 hits for his career. Ichiro is about to enter his 36-year-old season.
Pete Rose entering his 36-year-old season? He had 2,762 hits. That would be about 546 fewer hits.
In fact, counting Japan, Ichiro has more hits than anyone had entering their 36 season:
1. Ichiro Suzuki, 3,308
2. Ty Cobb, 3,264
3. Robin Yount, 2,878
4. Rogers Hornsby, 2,855
5. Tris Speaker, 2,794
6. Stan Musial, 2,781
7. Pete Rose, 2,762
8. Derek Jeter, 2,747
9. Mel Ott, 2,732
10. Sam Crawford, 2,711Of course, when it comes down to it, I suspect Pete Rose doesn’t really want to count Ichiro’s hits in Japan.
– Ichiro is the only player to have nine consecutive 200-hit seasons. Rose never had more than three in a row. Cobb never had more than three in a row. Wade Boggs had seven 200-hit seasons in a row, which was the most.
People will always argue about the value of Ichiro. That’s because his skill set is so different. How do you place value on a hitter who hits .330 without a lot of power, bangs 225 hits but doesn’t walk much, plays a brilliant right field and almost never misses a game? In 2009, Ichiro ranked 12th in the American League in Wins Above Replacement, was in a three way tie for third with 28 Win Shares and 11th in the league in Baseball Prospectus’ Value Over Replacement Player. I’d say that’s the general range — some think he’s one of the two or three best players in the league, others think he’s plenty good but not quite that good. My analytical side tends to rank him as a Top 10 player, without a doubt, but beyond that I’m not sure.
— Joe Posnanski
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Did I say he wasn't a great hitter?
I said a bit overrated. I probably should have added, “by some.” the the end of that statement. He’s on the verger of being a Hall of Famer in my book, based solely on his MLB resume.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with a large part of that.
I value walks highly, almost on par with singles. The fact that he tries to clamp down on potential power for contact may well reduce his value, rather than increase it. We’ll never really know.
I value defense extremely high, as does WAR. I’d put him about the 8-10 range, if I’m ranking offensive players, right now. Based on his entire body of work he’s a sure fire hall of famer when he retires.
But I do think some people believe he’s better than he truly is, based on the stylish nature of his game. Contact and Speed have value, of course… but the contact at the expense of more walks/power isn’t necessarily the optimal trade off to make.
THIS
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That's like arguing Shaq's not a great player
because he can’t shoot well.
His size is so dominant, that being so quick and large 100% dominates his opponent. Ichiro hits so well, that regardless of his power output (he does hit doubles and triples, and throws in the occasional home run), his value over replacement puts him at 3rd with 28 win shares last year in the American League.
The formula already compensates other aspects of the game. The total sum of his offensive contributions adds up to 28 win shares last year. At age 36.
That is a special hitter. Not overrated by any means.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Damn
Didn’t realize he was already 36. How old am I?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
That’s like arguing Shaq’s not a great player
No it’s not. Not at all. Not even close. Shaq was good at everything but freethrows when he was winning back to back to back championships with the Lakers. If IIRC he had a 4 assist season in there somewhere, he was a monster defensively, scoring, and rebounding.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
But she has massive cans!
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Om nom nom
I do love me some Firefly. Fuck you, Fox.
Good looking
Huge hoo-haa’s, nothing special.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Charisma counts for something.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Can't comment on that
Never seen her in anything.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
You always see her in nothing?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like a personal problem.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
She has a certain sensuality.
It’s not just the bodacious figure; it’s the blatant sexiness. I know that sets fire to some womanly combat. But it sure takes a fellow’s eye.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
She's...lush.
Watch her walk.
Ok, my turn again.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 24, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
UNLIKE
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Am I done with the K’s now? Do I get to eat? What kind of wine pairs with chocolate Cheerios?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
the kind that comes in a box
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
you are one sick kitty
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
LITERALLY!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
NEEDZ MOAR DOG
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
PUPPIES IN SPACE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Chocolate Cheerios with Kalua.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
the FINNISH HYMNS
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
were lovely tonight
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope I run out of room.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
LOL @ the Bleachers
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
So I picked up Smoak a day before his callup
I’m doubling down. Just picked up carlos santana.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Smooth
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He's got the DOUBLE DOWNS!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve got both those guys. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Got Smoak this morning
Was thinking the same with Santana, but I do already have Wieters.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Had him – moved “up” to Baker. So yeah. . .
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
courtesy of Mathis injury though, i “upgraded” to napoli
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
More LOL me – I started the season with Napoli but dropped him when he saw no playing time behind Mathis.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Can someone tell me where the hell this game was televised? I looked all over for it and didn’t see it anywhere. Surely they didn’t have a radio-only game on a Friday night?!?
Ducks stackin' wins like Leggos, toastin Pac-10 like the Eggos, like we're racin' against some preggos, Dan Patrick we enfuego. Free Schierholtz!!
NBC11 in Bay Area.
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by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
In Sacramento
The game was on KMAX
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
KMAX, where we help you climax aaaaaall niiiiight loooong…
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Channel 191 Retro TV
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I remember a few seasons ago I would basically count every Schmidt start as an automatic win. Timmy truly is at that point right now. He’s unbelievable.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
Yup
I remember those days, when Schmidty was always money.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions
ahahahaha what
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Weird stats
Entering tonight’s game, Aubrey Huff, our cleanup hitter, led the team in runs with 11. He scored twice tonight, bumping his total to 13 in 16 games.
Entering tonight’s game, Aubrey Huff was also tied for the team lead in walks. Tied with Pablo Sandoval, matching Huff’s total of 8. Huff cheated the game again tonight, pushing his total to 9.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Yay Huff!
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
He should probably bat #2 I think
But whatever
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Then they would force him to bunt more.
Oh, that’s right, our lead off hitter virtually never gets on base anyway.
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer DeRosa batting second. He walks almost as much, and has better bat control.
I don’t know what to do with Huff, though.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
bench him if he slumps and then trade him for a utility infielder that hits a few more home runs each year?
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like
DeRosa should be batting leadoff, actually. He seems like he’d be a million times better than Rowand.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
This?
DeRosa
Huff
Sandoval
Uribe
Molina
Bowker
Rowand
Schierholtz
Silly lineup is silly.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Let's go with
Sanchez
DeRosa
Huff
Posey
Uribe
Bowker
Schierholtz
Rowand
P
Too much giving, needs to receive better.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
HE WUD TELL LINCECUM TO THROW A KNUCKLEBALL
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Ephus.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Needs more Sandoval?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Er. Huh. I guess I accidently slapped 4 OF in there. Let's revise that.
DeRosa – LF
Sanchez – 2B
Huff – 1B
Sandoval – 3B
Posey – C
Uribe – SS
Bowker – RF
P
Rowand – CF
Michael?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He can probably fit into Lou Seal’s costume.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Well, if I was being exact about it
DeRosa LF
Huff 1B
Uribe 2B
Sandoval 3B
Molina C
Rowand CF
Schierholtz RF
Renteria SS
There is one fundamental problem with the way the Giants lineups have been constructed thusfar:
There are two guys who have proven average or above average at getting on base. Huff and DeRosa.
Both of those players bat AFTER the guy on the team who is most likely to drive them in.
We could probably increase our run total pretty significantly by getting Huff and DeRosa before Pablo.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I think I read something somewhere
That you actually want a better hitter in the 4 slot than the 3. But that’s picking nits, my fundamental point is that the people who are good at getting on base should bat before Pablo.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I think optimal lineup construction says you should put your best hitter in the 2 spot
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not according to BTBS
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by
Claims that 2 and 4 are equally important, but that 4 should have more power.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Agreed. When Sanchez got back I’d be ok with
Sanchez
DeRosa
Huff
Sandoval
Uribe
Rowand
Molina
Nate.
P
/Rents shoulder explodes
Hmmm
That’s a bit trickier, since Sanchez isn’t exactly known for his OBP. I don’t know if I’d like him in the leadoff role. With Sanchez out and praying that Uribe starts over Rent, my ideal would be something like
DeRosa LF
Huff 1B
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Molina C
Rowand CF
Schierholtz RF
This would give Freddy, a high avg but low OBP guy, more of a chance to knock in runs, I think.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I like this one too.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I like it.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
It's not easy to put a lineup together
when 7 of the guys you have to put in the lineup should all be batting last.
I think I'll make a fanpost about this?
Since it’s an interesting conversation and might get lost in the shuffle if it’s kept here.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Make sure to reference Fred Lews
if you want to generate interest
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
WHAR SHOULD FRED LEWIS BAT??/?
F-LEW 2B
F-LEW SS
F-LEW 1B
F-LEW 3B
F-LEW LF
F-LEW RF
F-LEW C
F-LEW CF
Joe Mather – P
THIS LINEUP WOULD SCORE 5.5 RPG LOL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
soooo many walk off walks
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
BUT THEY WUD GIVE IT BACK WITH THEIR ERRORS HE DROPS THE BASEBALL
AND FRED IZ 2 PATIENT
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Woo hoo! My snuggie and I just got back from the game! Good times were had by all, except for that annoying, loud, not as smart or funny as he thought he was Cardinals fan sitting behind me in 305.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 11:18 PM PDT reply actions
I didn’t get a snuggie. :(
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I got one and gave it away
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
What! I would have bought it off you.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
My girlfriend used hers, I’m going to try and sell mine on EBay. Some are getting $40 for it.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Go Roger Kieschnick! And son, please continue to break scoreboards on your way to San Francisco.
Ill give you $2
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 24, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
D’oh!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dood -
I discovered pulling “K” duty while Timmy’s pitching is hard. You’re not allowed to leave the board during games, man.
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by can of corn on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that done by a Giants employee?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
It WASN'T ORIGINALLY
I am still so bitter over that.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Me too, on your behalf.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, whoa
I completely misinterpreted that, and thought you were talking about doing it AT the ballpark.
Ignore my stupidity. Look at this Gif!

My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I feel bad for laughing
but its funny
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I have a Notes extension for Firefox so I can store all the K’s and just copy and paste when I need them.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I had a text edit window open and just pasted in what I needed. But still. THE PRESSURE!!!!
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by can of corn on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus I got hungry.
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by can of corn on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that can happen.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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IF YOU CAN’T TAKE THE HEAT DON’T INHALE THE GASOLINE! Or something.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Me neither, the lady in front of me got the last one at the Mays gate. I arrived at 6.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
I didn’t get one. I was there at 5:45, but my tickets didn’t get there until 6:05. It was a madhouse.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice win. Ugly uniforms that actually was used by the Orioles several years ago.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Pretty odd of the Orioles to use Giants unis.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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This has got to mean something...

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Are they both part of the
“Toolsy football player turned baseball player” group on Facebook?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Although Fred Lewis is good at baseball
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Heh.
I like the idea of online MLB friendships. It just seems really silly for some reason.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
WHAAAAAT?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
heheheh
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
!
Chris Haft: Scheirholtz might be in leadoff mix
Thoughts?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
…sure.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Hitting the guy with a .320 career OBP leadoff is a great idea
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
On the other hand
his 11% BB rate so far this year is pretty sexy.
Also, VROOOOM.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Now that you mention Torres
If this means less Velez and Torres I am all for it.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it means less Bowker
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Probably this. But at least there will be no need for Torres or Velez to get consistent starts.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But at least there will be no need for Torres or Velez to get consistent starts
There’s no need for them to get any starts now. But you know Sabes and Bochy…
VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I know the grougthink has kinda settled on Bowker > Schierholtz
But I still prefer Nate. I really just wish they’d pick one, though.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Yeah seriously, I would like to see Bowker get more time, because I think he has a higher ceiling, but right now I like Nate better. The worst thing they could do is not give either consistent playing time.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
So much of THIS
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with the second point
though I am pretty down on Nate. He screams 4th OF to me, though he did look impressive tonight.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
.333 average ,.429 OBP
through 23 AB. He’s proven himself!
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
YAY for infield singles!!
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
/Ichiro
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Natechiro
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I like Natechiro Schierzuki. He plays right field for the Mariants.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
THEY BOTH HAVE AN INSIDE THE PARK HOMERUN AT SBC OMGWTF!!!!!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
about how overrated he is?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
He projects to be above .330 so I don’t really mind.
SSS OBP in his career.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
In an ideal world, I’d have Bowker there.
Let’s just say that my expectations of this team are not very high and to put Schierholtz at lead-off is such an expression of confidence in a young players’ skills that I would be on board with it.
As a hitter, he’s essentially Rowand anyways. So I’d rather it be the guy in his twenties with more speed.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
One important question when comparing them is, who would you rather have getting more at-bats? Rowand, or Schierholtz?
Does putting Rowand in leadoff bear the advantage of making him less likely to GIDP? Or do you want to put him 7th to try and help drive in runs? Schierholtz’s speed fits better at the top of the lineup, but he’s not a base-stealer so the benefit comes down to fly balls, sacrifices, hit and runs, and XBH behind him in the order. It feels like a bit of a wash to me, but I could see why you would want to put him there.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Just because a guy’s not a “base stealer” doesn’t mean that his speed loses most of its relevance at the top of the lineup. Quite the opposite, most of the value lies in taking the extra base independent of stealing them.
The base-stealing is a cherry on top. Just having a faster guy up there is enough to produce runs.
I would rather have one of the young guys getting more at-bats than Rowand. I believe Bowker and Schierholtz are both capable of outproducing him on an everyday basis, and additionally, a large number of at-bats allows for a larger sample size to evaluate at the end of the year. I also like the confidence that is demonstrated by the manager in the player.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
/still doesn’t get this meme.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
1. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic
This is a situation when someone tries to futilly reform the way things are done in a failing system.
The consolidation of domestic agency intelligence under the banner of “Homeland Security” is nothing more than Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Try opening the image in a new tab and reading the file name.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Basically it doesn’t matter the order, its still going to be wrecked by an iceberg, killing hundreds
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
LOL
Thanks to all.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
So this means Bowker lost his job?
Well at least he got his 37 AB’s to prove himself
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I knew he was screwed after ending that game in SD.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it's true
even though it is stupid and maddening. Like it’s one players fault that the Giants couldn’t hit anything in PETCO. Brian Sabean and Bruce Bochy are incompetent jackasses who hurt the Giants organization.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I was honestly surprised he was not optioned to Fresno after the game.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sure
the only thing that keeps him in the big league team is that Sabean sleeps with Bowkers spring training stat line under his pillow.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 23, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That and the fact that Jermaine Dye hasn't accepted a deal for the league minimum...yet
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
He's waiting to bust out his big moves soon.
C – B. Molina
1B – A. Huff
2B – F. Sanchez
SS – E. Renteria
3B – M. DeRosa
LF – G. Anderson
CF – A. Rowand
RF – J. Dye
Pablo gets traded for AAAA quality prospects, so they can move DeRosa to infield, to pick up Garret Anderson.
If we pick up Garret Anderson, I will officially resign from my position as a Giants fan.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
who cares anymore. bochy is going to make every possible bad decision before he makes the right one, so we might as well just wait it out
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Worth a shot.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Amazing game!
wife almost had to knock out a girl who tried to grab my snuggie, but it did not come to blows.
Pujols and Ludwick (and to a lesser degree, Hollliday) put on an amazing show in BP, but Tim shut ’em all down!
Big Time Timmy Jim, indeed.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Anything to report about the actual fight that occurred over a snuggie?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I did not see that. But I believe I saw Heimy on the jumbotron throwing t-shirts into the crowd.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The ‘Heimy’ on your shirt gave it away…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
View Box 305. I was like ‘hey, that guy posts on MCC!’ to my wife. She was like, ‘uh, OK’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
hahaha awesome. did you get a snuggie? It was such a madhouse out there before the game
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I did indeed, I work at 2nd and Harrison, so an early trip to score the goods (suck it Howie) and then dinner at the Primo Patio. It was a good night all around.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe so many people turned up. I saw the lines @ the main entrance and Lefty gate and decided to try the CF gate. Made it in with a snuggie, I doubt everyone in line got one. The line for the Lefty gate stretched across the bridge and half way through the park across the cove.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Go Roger Kieschnick! And son, please continue to break scoreboards on your way to San Francisco.
Johnny: “Hey, that guy posts on MCC!”
Mrs. Johnny: “NERD!”
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 24, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
It went something like that, yes.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
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Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I was disappointed that the cute girl wasn’t throwing t-shirts in our section.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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That was Heimy!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 24, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I said cute girl.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I was bitter they were throwing them in your section and not mine.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
was there one?
no reports. did notice some disturbances in the bleachers, but nothing beyond that.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
I saw a report on Twitter about a fight in the RF bleachers over a snuggie, FWIW.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
All I heard were some disturbances over what I thought was some douche in Dodgers stuff as I heard some “Beat LA” chants from the bleachers.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
There was someone before the game who came late I guess, but brought a blue snuggie and people got him for that but it wasn’t Dodgers. But then a few innings in a few teens walked down the bleachers, one in Giants stuff the other in Dodger stuff, and the Giants person was taking pictures and video of him, so I’m guessing it was just a bet lost. My girlfriend got me a 4 pack of tickets for my birthday and it was our second game and first in the seats we actually have tickets to (first was the 4 hour rain delay game, and we sat in the lower box just below the overhang). We’re almost in dead CF and there were some idiots there who almost got into a fight over people standing up.
Kind of disapointed in Giants fans.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Go Roger Kieschnick! And son, please continue to break scoreboards on your way to San Francisco.
What a game.
I was delighted to observe Tim overcome his faults. That change up dominated the Cards, even though Pujols has been off as of the past few games. I’m not sure how the game wound up being won. That the Giants encountered a team hitting worse in the clutch than themselves is a minor miracle. To read the SB Cards mourn their team evoked a common memory.
There’s no indication that the Giants have climbed out of their offensive abyss.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not enough Peirzynskis!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Lets see, we’ll give Bumgarner, Romo, and Pucetas this time!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Throw in Neal and maybe we can get Konerko?
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Pierogies?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Full episodes of Top Gear
where online?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Hulu?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Here
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Can't do it with out going the torrent route?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Not touching that link doo-d.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
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Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Dang, so close.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Gotta go the torrent route. But these are good. Full episodes too.
http://www.finalgear.com/shows/topgear/
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
Nate’s dad was at the game tonight. He left quickly in the bottom 8 after Downs made the final out.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
What did his beard look like?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
And are you sure it wasnt just Howie?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I went to school with one of Nate's little bros
We were pretty close chums though middle school. Dad is a real cool guy.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Thats pretty cool.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Never really got to meet Nate though, since he’s like 5 years older than we were, heh. Whole family is real nice though.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
It ain’t no thang
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
gangsta lean
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Apr 24, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
dude I probably know you
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude
You go to SRV? When did you graduate?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
07
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhhh
Yeah, we graduated together. Where do you go to school now?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
transferred to art school in SF, out of George Washington in DC
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
I go to GW. Like, right now.
Neumeister?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
haha. Logan? Wow, that’s bizarre
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Mind. Blown.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I totally drunk dialed you a couple years ago. I saw Erin at a party and she gave me her phone and told me to call you.
So, that was emberassing. Blame her, though
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that
You wanted to explain that you didn’t hate me, for some reason. It was pretty funny.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
She told me that you thought I hated you because I didn’t tell you right away that I was going to GW
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
lolwut
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
This is weird.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 24, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Academy of Art, amirite.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 24, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The best thing about it is that a whole bunch of industry people teach here or visit all the time. Also, I live a few blocks from the ballpark and I don’t have to buy mlb.tv to watch the Giants anymore.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s what I heard from the info they gave me. What are you majoring in?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
animation
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 24, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell is going on with the thread?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
COMMENT CHILDREN TOKEN, that’s what
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by rightcenterfielder on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
LOLDGERS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 24, 2010 10:19 AM PDT reply actions
Stupid Natinlols. I miss the Expos.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
i miss the Browns
/haz a sad
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
They have Colt McCoy now
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
the only now for the StL Browns is the Horrorioles…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hehe I read that as
Whorioles
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
that comes next when they start selling players
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
can someone explain this to me?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
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WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the deal with airplane peanuts?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Peanuts? In a bag? It’s crazy!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
great game at mccovey cove last night despite a bunch of bandwagoning weekender
fans and east bay okies getting a wave going in the upper deck. that was truly disheartening.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
that’s horrifying
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
subject line
oh yeah and in the endless parade of WTFs that is the Natinals, check out this ticket design

ben roethlisberger night?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
That guy took “I’d hit that” way too literally.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Epic slapfight between two mods over on Niners Nation about 6th-round picks. It’s auto-stairfenstration over a blocking TE!
So he will be the antecedent of the all-important Bear Pascoe?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I lose all interest in the draft after the second round
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
I didn’t even follow the second round.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I just wanted to see of Clausen would fall to us. Not that I really wanted him… Just an interesting storyline
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If it’s the people I think it is, because I haven’t looked over there, neither one of them are technically mods. They can post stories, but have no real moderating power.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
If it’s me and wjackalope, though, you’d be right.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever. They’re front-page people, so they’re mods.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 24, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I saw a similar thing in AN. They were non-mod front page people (writers or editors or something weird like that) and it seemed like they didn’t really try to control themselves or anything.
Actually, isn’t this the only big SBN blog that has a single writer/overlord?
I was promised lasagna.
So hard I can taste it
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
There are others, I think. Lone Star Ball is just one guy.
I’m kind of a control freak like that.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 24, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrote the post-game thread a couple of times!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Arrogant mod.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
And with every sentence, a little piece of me died. Of course, you puffed up your Stanford application with it, so you got what you wanted.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 24, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand how anyone could get so worked up about the 6th round of the NFL draft.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
GOOD THING THE PATRIOTS DIDN’T THINK THAT ABOUT TOM BREADY NERD
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 24, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL DODGERS
that’s all
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
The Devil is smiling on the Dodgers
The Nationals get a runner to 2nd in each of the 9 innings in regulation an only score 3 runs. Bonus Cantos in DC.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 24, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
They didn’t score in the 10th either, but at least they didn’t embarrass themselves by getting a runner to 2nd.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 24, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Against Kershaw, he had a single and a double in 3 ABs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
It’s weird — his walkup music is “Sister Christian”, but he bats right after Cristian Guzman. So it seems like every time Guzman makes an out the Nats stadium guys play “Sister Christian” to taunt him.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 24, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
SUCK IT MATT KEMP
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
TWRS
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 24, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
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WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 24, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions
Damn it Nats.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
They would’ve tied it there if they had pinch-run a starting pitcher with decent speed. And Morgan would’ve likely been on 3B with 1 out with the winning run.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 24, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid Nationals.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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BORK
Velez cf
Renteria ss
Sandoval 3b
Huff 1b
DeRosa lf
Molina c
Uribe 2b
Schierholtz rf
Zito p
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 24, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
Damn you Bochy
Didn’t you read my well thought out posts about putting the OBP people in front of Panda?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I have the answer
Damn you Bochy Didn’t you read
No, he didn’t.
OBP people
Game cheaters.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Since I won't be around for the game, here's your Zito pic for the day

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Apr 24, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t want to know what’s going on here.
/backs out of the room
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by rightcenterfielder on Apr 24, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
HE HAD HIS CHANCE
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Dude couldn't get it done in 37 AB's
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
iawtc
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Did you ever end up getting your tickets to this game, btw?
I MUST HAVE CLOSURE ON THIS STORY
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
No :(
It’s probably a good thing because it would have been impossible to get to the park in time to line up for the bobblehead and my brother is coming home tonight, but I’m still a bit disappointed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Why is Velez in CF?
Dammit
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Torres looked like he pulled up a bit lame after running out that double play ball unsuccessfully.
Little did Bochy know that Velez has been lame since birth.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Why not move Nate to CF
DeRosa, Nate, Bowker should be our OF. Velez is not a major league quality player.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I think Grougthink has consensus
Nate in CF.
If only Boch would consider it.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Bochy: “Consider what now? … God damn, do I love sunflower seeds.”
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I'm sad to say
that Bochy would consider Nate at 3rd before considering Nate in CF
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I can really see “WHY IS VELEZ?!” becoming a new meme around here. It seems like every time he starts there’s a new reply with that subject line (with good reason.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 24, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
John Bowker: dead.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
John Bowker is
Fred Lewis & Kevin Frandsen
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Fred Lewis & Kevin Frandsen are
Pedro Feliz.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
STILL NOT A PLATOON!
AmyGGiants When asked if #sfgiants Schierholtz is #1 guy in RF, Bochy said, “we’re going w/matchups – going w/who’s hot”
So no platoon – instead, the ultimate use of SSS.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Great...
Bowker and Schierholtz are screwed if this is true. Why can they not just pick one and stick with him?
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Not the Giants way
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
“Hot” = getting infield hits
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 24, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Pedro Feliz is batting 3rd for the Astros
LOL
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Ribeye guy
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I tell myself the batting order doesn’t make that much of a difference… then I see Feliz batting 3rd and I have trouble believing myself.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 24, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

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