Winning and developing at the same time...
"The most difficult thing to do in sports, which is doubly tough for a manager, is to try to win and develop at the same time. More and more, kids are getting to the big leagues earlier. More and more, kids aren't prepared to play up here and deal with the failing. I don't think (the notion that Bochy prefers veterans to younger players) is fair, whether it's Bruce or anybody else who is the manager." -- Brian Sabean
Maybe winning and developing at the same time is kind of a secret sauce. The Giants under Brian Sabean have mixed together tartar sauce and Aqua Velva, and asked you to dip your fries in it. Oh, it’s a secret alright. Mmmm. Championship-winning teams usually have something worked out, though.
Last year, the Giants’ starting right fielder hit two home runs. Almost 600 plate appearances, two home runs. That was the lowest total for any right fielder in 18 seasons – hello, Willie McGee! – and only the 15th time since integration a right fielder had fewer than three home runs while qualifying for the batting title. This year, the Giants are still trying to figure out what they have with a couple of outfielders in their mid-20s. It almost seems like last season would have been a pretty good time to figure that all out, but I'm just a goofy kid living in my mom's basement.
Rule #1 for winning and developing at the same time: Know when to pull the plug on your own veterans.
Oh, Winn will break out of this any day now. I don’t care that John Bowker is hitting like Lou Gehrig in AAA; those stats don’t mean anything. Winn will get hot. Winn’s about to come around. Winn’s streaky, and we’ll miss out if we take him out of the lineup now.
Stop. Explore other options. Sometimes, hitters in their mid-30s just disintegrate. Last season, the Giants had the least productive right fielder in major league baseball and the most productive right fielder in minor league baseball. It’s amazing that they stuck with Winn for the full season considering those two points. Amazing. It’s absolutely ridiculous that both Nate Schierholtz and John Bowker are still unknowns to this team.
There isn't a prospect pushing Edgar Renteria right now, so we can only guess at the kind of leeway the Giants would give him. If there were a hotshot prospect in the upper levels of the system right now, I could only hope that the Giants would have given him the job to start the season. Sadly, I don't think that would be the case.
Rule #2 for winning and developing at the same time: Trust your own scouting and statistical profiles of a young player.
Player X was a September call-up from the minor leagues, where he hit very well. He hit .191/.258/.303 in 89 at-bats in the majors, though. He won a starting role the next year, but only hit .186/.308/.236 over 55 April at-bats the following season. If Player X were on the Giants, Player X would have been sent back to the minors until September, or maybe until an injury forced their hand. It’s tough to grade a team based on hypothetical situations like that, but does anyone believe that the Giants would have said, no, let’s stick this one out because we’re certain this young player is ready to contribute right now? No way. Luckily for Dustin Pedroia, he wasn’t on the Giants. The Red Sox stuck with him and were rewarded.
The Giants went into the offseason thinking that Nate Schierholtz was their right fielder. They didn’t acquire anyone else to play right field because they believed Nate Schierholtz was their right fielder. So, obviously, Nate Schierholtz lost his job because of a poor performance in the spring. Spring training! Where Damon Minors flourish and Jeff Kents struggle! Where Tim Lincecums look mortal and Todd Wellemeyers are the steals of the offseason! Spring training, you Oracle of Truth, tell us how to run our ballclub! Here is an offering of moldy garlic fries and pieces of human flesh we found at the bottom of the Coca-Cola slide! We hope you will be appeased, oh wise Oracle of Truth that we also call spring training!
Now Schierholtz is probably going to win that job back. Why? Well, he’s hitting .306 this year. Of course, two of those hits were infield hits, which means that his average would be .217 if he didn’t hit those two balls so poorly that an infielder couldn’t get to them on time, but you can’t argue with results! And John Bowker, who knows how quick the organizational hook is, will probably lose his job soon because he’s been pressing (and sucking, lest we forget).
There’s no patience in this organization with young players. Dan Ortmeier didn’t necessarily deserve the patience he didn’t receive, but I really don’t think Sabean knows the difference between an Ortmeier and a Bowker. When Sabean says "More and more, kids aren't prepared to play up here and deal with the failing," it makes realize just how well veterans must deal with failing. They must be just perfectly equipped to deal with failing, as they’ve been doing it a lot for the Giants over the past five years. And, seeing as the Giants rarely bench a veteran player, it looks like the Giants put a premium on dealing with failure.
Two rules: Don’t be afraid to treat a cooked veteran like a cooked veteran, and when you give a young player the starting job, give the young player the starting job and back away for a while. That’s all I ask of the Giants. That’s not a secret sauce. It’s just not ass-backwards. Try it.
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What was the quote about Bowker? Something like he wasn’t showing enough fire or something stupid. He’ll be back in AAA by next week.
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Apparently, he should have lost his shit over that blown call at 1B.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, because we all know how well umpires responding to arguing from a player. I mean, they’re always to open to the criticism and so ready to listen patiently when said player argues his case. And overturn their calls. Because that happens so often.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely a rank - and - file protocol.
Manager argues.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 22, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy seems to only want to argue based on what the players do. Last year during that Dodgers series in August where the umps were doing their best impression of NBA refs, Bochy said several times that he came out an argued only because player X argued first. I get that he doesn’t want to be Bobby Cox and he said he didn’t see the play, but to expect Bowker to be the one to argue the call is a little excessive .
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s not actually a rookie, just for the record.
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No, you’re absolutely right, but I think there’s something to what Section B is saying. Umpires don’t like it when players argue but they seem to especially hate it when young or non-established players argue. I’ll admit this is just based on my own observation and I have NO kind of statistical evidence to back me up, but I think Bowker was probably even more handicapped from arguing than someone like Renteria might be.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes me wonder what they would have done with Pablo, if he’d gone 2-35 at the end of 2008.
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by cain1rstballothof on Apr 22, 2010 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
I wanted to work that in, but it was already a novel-length post.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Alex_Lewis on Apr 22, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
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"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
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by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not laziness — especially since my boss is vacationing in Llama Land right now. I just can’t image tacking on another paragraph to the above without making everyone’s eyes gloss over even more.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
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"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Tastes great!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
As a person with a very short attention span I really appreciate this. Save that post for some other time like an off day or writers block or something
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree. I too have a short attention span and feel that it’s really nice outside right now. I should go “work” outside.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
But….you aren’t a “new way to worker”!!!
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a “new way to worker,” it’s just that I need to get a puppy.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Are you in front of a coffee shop working right now? I just walked by, wondering how you could work out in the sun instead of some boring office.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean save it as its own separate post because there’s plenty to say on that in and of itself. If Grant gave that little hypothetical the time and space it deserves this post would have been flooded with “Long post is long” comments.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
/sands gloss off eyes
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, who are the assholes who turned that green?
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
She may have said this after ingesting hallucinogens.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone appreciates a good burn.
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Especially Timmeh.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo will still be somewhere in AA ball
switching between C, 1B, 3B and CF. Living in cheap motels on the road, eating Panda Express but no ‘Kung Fu Panda’ or any nickname in fact. He’ll dream of hitting Major League pitching again, putting on an one-earflap helmet and having 40,000 people adore you nightly (15,000 for A’s players).
But for now, he’ll have to wait. And wait he will for that day the Chicago White Sox will give him that promotion for he was part of a July 31st trade during the 2009 season when Giants were in that thing, which netted a much needed middle reliever for San Francisco.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 22, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
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Is pretty meh though. I like Bowker best, but even he looks lost most of the time at the plate.
Holding my breath for Neal to get his shit back together and come up Panda style.
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by cain1rstballothof on Apr 22, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions
I think Schierholtz looks even worse. I hate his swing — it just looks so handsy and terrible.
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He’s pretty limp.
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by cain1rstballothof on Apr 22, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate needs some herotabs.
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by cain1rstballothof on Apr 22, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
But we think two capsules is MUCH easier.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Schierholtz's swing.
I don’t like the pitches he swings at.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Nate has a few Schierholtz in his swing.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. I HATE his swing. How is it ever going to generate decent power?
by Squire_Boone on Apr 22, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Doubt he ever will.
But I have some fantasy where he hits over .300 with doubles power.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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He needs to pull his pant legs back up
by Section B, Row 1 on Apr 22, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
All athletic baseball players should play with pantlegs up.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
By swinging a bat in a swimming pool!
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Yeah, I don’t get all the hoopla about Bowker/Nate etc. Its not like either one of them is a stellar player. I would prefer Bowker just b/c Nate has shown what he does, but over all its completley meh on my book.
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by say hey nation on Apr 22, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. They should have signed/traded for a RF sometime in the last 3 years, instead of signing 3 2B.
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by cain1rstballothof on Apr 22, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s hardly Grant’s point, though.
There’s no patience in this organization with young players. Dan Ortmeier didn’t necessarily deserve the patience he didn’t receive, but I really don’t think Sabean knows the difference between an Ortmeier and a Bowker.
You could easily change Ortmeier’s name with Bowker’s name and Bowker’s name with Heyward’s name in that sentence without affecting the meaning and consequence one bit.
That’s the point here.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I was talking in general though.
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by say hey nation on Apr 22, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Certainly. I’ve probably been more down on Bowker than a lot of people here, so I tend to agree with your sentiment. Bowker’s kind of a meh option overall, in my eyes. In terms of the overall topic, though, I think the issue takes on a much different light.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
When you have nobody better to play in RF, just give the job to somebody and let them be for a while. It isn’t a hard concept. Yet, for Sabean and Co., it is like learning quantum physics.
by Squire_Boone on Apr 22, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you but I’m not up in arms over it.
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by say hey nation on Apr 22, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think I’ve ever been impressed with anything Nate’s done at the plate, but I think Bowker is going to be good once he starts to make adjustments.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
If only he would be allowed to adjust. Its sad to know that he’ll get his chance to adjust after he has successive 3 for 4 games.
by Squire_Boone on Apr 22, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Bowker
but I think expecting Brandon Wood might be setting your expectations a tad high.
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Wood’s been jerked around for years now between crushing it at AAA and the bench/occasional-spot-starts-but-not-enough-to-get-in-rhythm in the majors.
Sound familiar?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
So the Angels have spent all of this time jerking their Wood around?
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TW…no. no
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
H != Ben Roethlisburger
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Right but Wood is a much better prospect than Bowker
And FWIW Wood’s been blocked by decent players (Figgins, Kendrick & Maicer Izturis)
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Beyond not playing naked, is Maicer Izturis really a “decent” player? Like, enough to justify blocking a top prospect?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not good enough to block a top prospect, but probably a league average player.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess that's a fair point
Although the Angels seem to like him a lot
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He’s a good fit for their style of baseball, and I think he’s pretty solid on D, which is of course what you want up the middle.
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Really? I still have hope for Wood
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I’d still like to see Nate get a full season’s worth of at-bats, though. I’m not right a whole bunch, and I’d love to be wrong here.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
what kills me is that the mccoven scream about OBP and then want nate to start. Nates OBP in 308 ABs last year was .302 like with like 16 walks.
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It’s more a matter of the alternatives. Velez is basically Nate with crappier defense and less power.
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Yeah. Given the choice between Nate and Winn, I’d prefer to see if Nate can hit .290 with a .330 OBP or something.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
i was really down on nate last year. he seemed extremely easy to pitch to. all the pitchers had his scouting report. guy swings at hard breaking stuff low and in (even if it hits him)
i would love to see him hit better this year, but i’d rather watch bowker.
also torres for all his great play last year seemed extremely easy to pitch to. guy can’t hit a pitch with any king of break in it. seems like there was little or no scouting report on him last year which is why pitchers would throw him fastballs, which he hits pretty well. but who doesn’t? oh wait… edgar renteria. thats who. edgar renteria’s bat is so slow these days he can’t hit anything but a hanging breaking ball mistake pitch. throw that a 92+ fastball or hard breaking stuff inside, and he isn’t getting on base. but i’m also just a kid living in my mom’s basement.
No one here gets out alive.
From what I’ve seen so far of Nate, he isn’t looking that horrible at the plate. Sure this is just what I’ve seen, he has 3 BBs in 23 PA’s but it seems like he’s taking more pitches. Time will tell if he continues this way but I’d much rather see Nate than Velez out there.
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That's certainly better than 2007
when he had 2 BBs in 117 PA’s and it’s better than 2008 when he had 3 BBs in 81 PA’s.
It’s a better walk rate than the one he had in 2009…
I’ve also noticed some better plate discipline as well..
So maybe there has been some progress…
Or maybe it’s just too small a sample size to know for sure.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Apr 22, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m in this boat, I don’t know how much of it is due to small sample sizes but it is better than he was previously. I’m hoping that it is progress, he really seemed like he was at least trying to work on his pitch recognition skills.
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r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Well, he’s hitting .306 this year. Of course, two of those hits were infield hits, which means that his average would be .217 if he didn’t hit those two balls so poorly that an infielder couldn’t get to them on time, but you can’t argue with results!
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they SHOULD sign more Japanese players!
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by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No need!
We have Espineli to attract the Asian fans!
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After four hours, you should consult a doctor.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
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It’s absolutely ridiculous that both Nate Schierholtz and John Bowker are still unknowns to this team.
This. This, this, this. Absolutely, 100% this.
How long has Bowker been in the Giants organization? Six years, right? And yet in 2010, they’re still trying to figure out whether he’s got it or not, whether he has enough “fire” to succeed. I know this has been beaten to death as a meme—see also: Frandsen, Kevin and Lewis, Fred—but the way the Giants mishandle the development of their young players and waste time figuring out if they’re any good or not, is beyond incompetent.
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by Kitspool on Apr 22, 2010 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
++++++1
Honestly, watching the Giants FO at times is like taking crazy pills. It as if a few member of the looney bin took over the organization and nobody in Giants ownership seems to notice.
by Squire_Boone on Apr 22, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this, although I think Nate has been figured out. I am just not that upset as either of them aren’t really thatgreat
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by say hey nation on Apr 22, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The oddest thing about it is that even when a young player DOES “prove himself” by getting off to a hot start, a la Fred Lewis, he still gets the same treatment.
So sayeth the Oracle.

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by victor frankenstein on Apr 22, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
Its just surreal that they actually believe 30 AB’s constitutes a sample size, and continue with the same damn problem. On the other hand, Freddy Sanchez is “proven”, so NO WORRIES
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Part of the problem with Bowker is that he was handed the “starting job,” but with the caveat that he can’t start against left-handers or knuckleballers. Thus, he starts one or two days, then has one or two (or three!) days off. How can a hitter get comfortable when he is starting one day and not the next?
And when he wonders how he could get more playing time, the overwhelming answer (in his head) is hit like Pablo Sandoval, because if you have more than one non-Panda game in a row, you’re not even going to play when the matchups are supposedly in your favor.
The only people in favor of how Sabean and Bochy handle this whole youngz vs. oldz deal are sports psychologists.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
really, sports psychologists?
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Bowker and Schierholtz could use one at this point.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh….I didn’t get it until your followup comment.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ahh
amd now I get it. I thought he was saying that sports psychologists would be in favor of the way the Giants jerk these players around. That didn’t seem right,
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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It’s just amazing how poorly this organization is run when you think about the details of the decisions they make. At times I forget some of the details, and think “Oh, Sabean sucks”….but anytime we actually talk about it, bring up all the points, history, and stupid stuff he does…..ugh, it makes me want to rip that man’s head off. The decision making process in these parts really is that poor.
The thing that’s been really bothering me the past couple years about Sabes (aside from, you know, half of his personnel moves) has been his tendency to casually bad-mouth his own players in the press. He did it with Frandsen. He’s done it three times in the last month with Lewis, Bumgarner and the general quote at the top of this post. I’m not saying any of these guys are necessarily any good, but it can’t possibly help them when they’re pressing to hear the GM say it’s all their fault for sucking.
And yet Wellemeyer walks four guys in a row yesterday and is rewarded with another inning or two of work.
This is not a signature.
Sabean’s bad-mouthing of players is just unacceptable. Nobody should ever bad mouth anyone in public like that. Sabean doing it is the epitome of classless bullshit.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 22, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Kit
I totally agree with your assessment up above. We should absolutely know more about Nate and John by now. The Giants have no idea how to promote players.
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Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
It’s just amazing how poorly this organization is run when you think about the details of the decisions they make
I think that is part of the problem. The media guys look at the organization from a broad, macro perspective, but they totally overlook the little details that are literally killing any chance the Giants might have to win a WS with the present stellar pitching.
Its the little details of management that make great teams. That is why I constantly say I don’t want a Giants organization that is run “well,” but run EXCEPTIONALLY.
Yep, if one of the media guys decided, for an article, to actually create a list of the bad decisions Sabean makes with actual players, quotes, and historical facts and events, and presented it all at once….it would blow minds. It would be so long and so absurd and just paint such a clear picture of how poor the thought process going through the FO is. I know whenever I think about just a few of the pieces of that list (like right now), it makes me furious, I just can’t imagine what it would be like to see it all in one place at one time.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This is never going to happen
The folks covering the team care more about their access to the players and team management.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Different Media Market
These guys (Bochy/Sabean) would have been lone gone if we were in New York or Boston
by Section B, Row 1 on Apr 22, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
See, the thing is...
It doesn’t even have to be particularly scatching. If you were to take Grant’s text as is and life it from Nerd Heaven and post it to The Chron or The Merc, I have a feeling that Sabean would be forced to at least bullshit his way around it.
As it stands, he can completely ignore it because none of the other hacks are going to call him on his non-answers.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
err…scathing
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Rather
we just get “You can’t criticize him. He’s the one who brought us Cain and Timmeh, etc”.
It’s not a real accounting. Someone can do 99% of something correct, and with that last 1% do something so catastrophically bad that it renders the entire job terrible.
Let’s figure that out.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
…and he doesn’t do 99% correct.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
of course not
And I’m not calling for that either, but man, even balancing the successes, the failures have been so epic as to invalidate this.
And they don’t realize it.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
It’s more like the other way around. He does most things wrong, but if you can come up with Cain, Lincecum, Sanchez, and Wilson within the span of a few years, you make up for a lot.
Tidrow is primarily responsible for the young Giants pitchers
Sabean signs off, but it is mostly Tidrow’s call on the pitchers. Tidrow went so far as to keep Sabean from seeing Lincecum pitch at UW for fear Sabean would have kaboshed the deal based on Lincecum’s erroneously reported “questionable” mechanics.
Sabean simply does not involve himself deeply in the draft. Never has. He himself used to brag about that fact, until the Giants started hitting the skids in 2005. So out of self-defense and self-preservation, he has involved himself more publicly, but he is still what he always has been, a vet snob from the old school of the old ways.
by E Ticket on Apr 23, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
That was actually the first thought I had when I posted my comment – that they’d just go “we found Timmy, Pablo and Cain, so your point is invalid”. Because that’s exactly how their thought process goes, and as deep as they ever think about anything. Because they’re fucking stupid. Brian IS an idiot.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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by bigboneded on Apr 22, 2010 3:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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by bigboneded on Apr 22, 2010 3:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 22, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean iz Bonaparte?
(take that delorean)
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
OT
Torres and Velez and Ishikawa need to be DFA’d immediately. If this offense is going to improve.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Apr 22, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
It almost seems like last season would have been a pretty good time to figure that all out
This is the biggest indictment against the FO. Instead of developing players, they gave Winn 538 ABs and traded prospects for Freddy Sanchez and Ryan Garko.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
And it’s especially frustrating that they gave Winn a lot of those 538 ABs even after Winn himself hinted that maybe other players should be starting.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
Winn’s a classy guy. Gamer. Cares about winning.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
GOOD GUY AWARD!
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That's why he stayed in the lineup
Sabean and Bochy liked his humility.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Humility
It’s like the 8th or 9th tool I think.
Comes after #6 Gamerness, #7 Obedience, and I can’t remember the order after that, I just know humility is in there toward the bottom, just above plate discipline.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
And unlike Fred Lewis, he didn’t get benched for it!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing is
This has been going on since 2 thousand friggin’ 6.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
you misspelled
“nineteen ninety friggin’ 6”
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
I wonder if there’s a chance that merchandise numbers might catch the eye of one of the higher-ups in a way that fundamental baseball numbers don’t. The guys who bring in the most t-shirt money are the young guys who are not only fantastic players, but are also fun to watch. Chase that t-shirt money!
Wow the packers beat the steelers today
20-0, they must really miss Ben Roethlisberger
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
This is truly frustrating.
I’d venture to say that part of the problem is that the line-up is so weak top to bottom with very few exceptions that it’s hard to let a young guy (I actually almost typed “a hung guy”, which would have made this sentence so much cooler) find his footing. Somehow the Brasz thinks that vets can hit themselves out of a slump (even if said slump lasts 1.5 seasons), but won’t afford the same opportunity to a new guy. Adding to the problem is that many of these guys aren’t really all that young anymore, leading management to think that if they haven’t figured it out yet, they won’t ever.
If the Giants had, say 4 consistently good hitter in the line-up, it’s easier to let your RF sit in the 7 or 8 slot and work on his shit. When you have 1 or 2 good hitters, then you start running out of places to stash a struggling player – they’re pretty much all struggling.
This team is all effed up.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Yet if we had solid production in our lineup and could let a right fielder sit in the 7 or 8 slot, we’d instead have to acquire a vet, because that’s what winning teams do. They don’t play young guys. And I defy anyone to challenge THAT notion. At least, as it pertains to the Giants…
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Very much this. If Nate can play CF, he’s a good outfielder. A .280 average and .150 ISO from your CF is by no means bad, and I think Nate is capable of doing both. He’s got plus speed, he’s got a plus arm, I don’t understand why they don’t try him out in center while Rowand’s hurt.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES
YES
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
the problem is that Bork and Sabes want to keep their jobs and mediocre veteran players are a safer bet to produce consistently than young guys with lesser track records. They can always argue Renteira was hurt or Rowand didn’t do what he usually does (as if players do what they usually do forever) but there’s no excuse for younger guys failing to produce.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 22, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions
Yep.
Why should they take on risk when they can buy veterans, and even if they don’t work out, they can just say “Well, he didn’t perform up to his track record. Not our fault”
If they stick some young guy out there who might eventually be better, but he does poorly, then that that is, in this organization, looked on as a failure.
It’s the old “No one ever got fired for going with IBM” idea. And it guarantees mediocrity.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
as Lars noted in another thread
young’uns can also be blamed for failure and replaced at no cost.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Eventually, though, I would think that even the most traditional season-ticket holders would tire of hearing the same excuses. There may come a day where Aubrey Huff isn’t enough to placate them anymore.
by Seasick fish on Apr 22, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Literally LOL
They must be just perfectly equipped to deal with failing, as they’ve been doing it a lot for the Giants over the past five years. And, seeing as the Giants rarely bench a veteran player, it looks like the Giants put a premium on dealing with failure.
/then crying
I actually think that may be the single most independently scathing thing Grant has written about the team in a few years. Usually, even when he’s scathing it’s not independent of at least some hipster reference or other.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, this is a quote from Tron:
The Master Control Program must be just perfectly equipped to deal with failing, as they’ve been doing it a lot for ENCOM over the past five years. And, seeing as the MCP rarely bench a veteran programmer, it looks like ENCOM puts a premium on dealing with failure.
I’m surprised you didn’t catch the reference.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a sellout reference, though, Mr. I’m-going-to-cash-in-on-the-Tron-Legacy-craze Brisbee.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
With hitters at least, management seems to prefer near-certain mediocrity over even the smallest risk of something worse. And then, surprise!, their hitting is consistently mediocre.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
“Last season, the Giants had the least productive right fielder in major league baseball and the most productive right fielder in minor league baseball.”
So telling. This should be tattooed on Sabean’s forehead.
Also: It would be nice if one of the local sportswriters might at least acknowledge the organization questionable use of its younger players. But since it doesn’t violate any old school unwritten baseball rule, we know Jenkins won’t say a word. And since it doesn’t lead easily to some silly pun or ridiculous metaphor, I guess Ratto’s out, too. So it’s left to Henry Schulman, who’s apparently too busy parroting Sabean’s takes on players and stuffing himself on the press box spread to question the organization.
/e ticket
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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 22, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions
To be fair to Hank, though, I’d give almost anything to have some of that press-box spread.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Help me, Andrew Baggarly
You’re my only hope!
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in Boston...I mean Pawtucket.
I believe, then, that you’re…how should I put this…fucked.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Apr 22, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to believe this as well
I don’t anymore.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Schulman and Baggs both being anti-Lincecum Cy Young for dumb reasons last year killed a tiny piece of my soul.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
It was like they were afraid of getting made fun of by all the other beat writers...
Or they’re preparing to keep a near unanimous first-ballot HOF from getting 100% of the vote someday.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
the sad thing about this post
Change a few names and you could’ve written it at any time in the last 6 or 7 years.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
an even earlier than that, too
But the team was good back then, so it was slightly less maddening.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
And with the new “auto-post” feature, you can write it anytime in the next 6 or 7 years as well!
by AndOnTheDrums... on Apr 22, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
aw geez
I made the mistake of looking at 22gigante’s website to see if he was still hating on the haters.
He wants us to trade for Corey Hart.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
the motocross rider?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
No, the 80’s 2-hit wonder.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 22, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
What was the other hit?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Sunglasses at Night? Or was it Never Surrender?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 22, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
huh
I thought Sunglasses as Night was the 1 hit.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Never heard of Sundglass at Night. You sure you’re not talking about “Stunna glasses at Night”?
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck it, way too much spelling fail to fix.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
this is my Federation jam right hurr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0ou9rqJ9ss
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
BOTH!
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 22, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
/just made same mistake
Why does everything he writes sound like a press release?
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
Today, the Giants (won/lost) X-X (over the/to the) X. The losing pitcher was X, whose record is now X-X. The winning pitcher was X, whose record is X-X.
McCovey Chronicles is full of know-it-all haters.
The end.
/template
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
I mean for how much longer can you write shit that nobody reads?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
To be fair, a lot of people write shit on the Internet that nobody reads, and do it for years, and sometimes it’s awesome and it’s a damn shame that nobody reads it.
But 22gigantes isn’t that, and also he’s a troll. So.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I had a blog one time. Found out a lot later a lot more people read it than I ever thought.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
But at least he gave us this:

Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
PEN15 SUCKURZ
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Does anyone actually say ‘so bad i can taste it’ here?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
LITERAL LOL IRL
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
LOLITERALLY
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
TWSS!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually think that one is howie
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
the thing that amuses me about this
The premise that we all desperately want to be moderators. IT OCCUPIES MY EVERY WAKING THOUGHT!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
BANNED!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
so bad you can taste it?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
So bad I would taste Grant.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Touch the Llama
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
LOL
damnit, now I have to go through life thinking that grant named his penis the Llama.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
LOL!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Propellering his llama wildly!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
He’s alpac-ing a llama!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I’m 99.99999% sure he was calling out jponry.
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 22, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering he e-mailed me personally with the picture, I would guess you’re right.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
How did he get your email?
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I assume he clicked the little mail icon next to my name down at the bottom of the page.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That said
He thought I was a dude.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL @ krukisgod@gmail =)
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I made that when I was a much younger and more naive Giants fan!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just like your McC username, I suppose?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I’m just a whole lot of fail.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Nah. I know your musical taste is good at least!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I haven’t listened to anything other than the new National album since it leaked!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I checked them out. Good stuff. Right now i’m obsessed with a guy name Adam Gates. Used to be in a band called The Spent Poets, and now has a project called Madam Blatavsky Overdrive
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Local dude?
This excerpt from his wiki page is promising:
As of recent, Gates has killed off the “Cock” character with rumors of a cocaine overdose and a bizarre gerbilling accident in Mexico.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, he was in the Primus/Les Claypool scene for a long time in their heyday
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I actually read an obituary for Bob Cock in BAM or something. I really thought the guy who played the character was dead from drugs. That’s really funny.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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I made that when I was a much younger and more naiveGiantsPhilliesBaseball Tonight on ESPN fan!!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW THAT IS AN INSULT!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hey, baby

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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/wets self at sight of Randy Johnson
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Apparently jponry is the poster child for MCC hating
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Well, she certainly is the poster child for MCC posting.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Natto has more posts than me!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Comments:
Natto: 66,295
jponry: 53,764
howtheyscored: 31,771
I just put myself in there for fun.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like you and I used to be a lot closer in terms of comment count.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
We did. There was a long period where SBNation was blocked at my work. That really hurt my productivity, I’m also not as active in game threads as I used to be.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
My comment count is probably going to slow down a lot once I start school again. :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
My time has come!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
"Who will lead the game thread comment count?"
STAY TUNED!!!
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Same here.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 22, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine will go up now that I’m unemployed.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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LOL Most every other McCoven.
But serious. That’s a lot of posts.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I post a lot, and I only have like 7,000. But then again, I started last year.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
For me, that’s just four years of making 22 posts every day!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
98% of which are trade proposals involving Matt Cain.
by Into the Void on Apr 23, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You always do that.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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well, obviously I do
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
His website was better than I thought it would be.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Last season, the Giants had the least productive right fielder in major league baseball and the most productive right fielder in minor league baseball. It’s amazing that they stuck with Winn for the full season considering those two points. Amazing.
What more can be said?
/punches wall
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions
/Sabes signs Sanchez to 5 year extension
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I initially found that funny, then it made me sad.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You woulda thought Sabean learned something about dumping copious amounts of unimaginable wealth on a fat baby-faced teeniebopper after watching Villalona balloon up on waffles and crisco, lumbering around like he was 39 instead of 19, and finalize the mistake by blowing some cheeseball away in a 3rd world dive for looking at him sideways.
But no. He compounded the stupidity by turning right around and dropping $1 Million on yet another 16 year old sack of shit, and watched him promptly fail a piss test. The Giants reportedly got the bonus money back. Right.
by E Ticket on Apr 23, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Allegedly.
blowing some cheeseball away in a 3rd world dive for looking at him sideways.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 23, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Now, here’s something I completely disagree with. First, I think investing money on bringing young talent into the organization is a smart move. I’d rather do it through the draft, since their salaries are more artificially suppressed, but it still beats the hell out of the free agent market method. Second, I assume you’re talking about Rogriguez in your second example, which I would disagree with entirely. I think he’s shown very good things so far.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he's talking about Duanel Jones?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I don't know what makes the least sense here
Claiming the Giants should never sign a Latin FA because of Angel Villalona (silly), calling a 16 y-o you know absolutely nothing about a “sack of shit” for no reason (just bizarre), or implying that the Giants didn’t get the bonus money back (illogical, baseless, contradicts everything we know).
Weird comment.
I was promised lasagna.
The Giants got the bonus money back?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4861636
The San Francisco Giants voided the contract of a top Dominican prospect after he failed a team-administered drug test, multiple sources told ESPN The Magazine.
Duanel Jones, a 16-year-old third base prospect, had signed with the Giants in December for $1.3 million. Soon after Jones had agreed to terms, the Giants administered a drug test, which Jones failed. Under the current system, the Giants are allowed to void the contract if a prospect fails a drug test even after the player has signed.
I was promised lasagna.
Let me rephrase this differently.
Cooky, I don’t see how you could interpret anything I wrote as implying that the Giants should never sign LA talent. I mean, I can stretch things out, but thats really a reach. It was about “who” they sign; not “where” they sign from. They just need to be smart, something that Sabean has not been. The Villalona and later Jones fiasco’s are simply two more incidents of Sabean’s ineptness/bad luck/bad results/whatever.
Giants need to be more selective in who they sign. The buscones (flesh peddling 25 percenters) have corrupted the entire structure of player development in the Domincan Republic. The Giants, and everybody else doing business down there are exploiting the shit out the economic depravity there.
The kid was already showing signs of poor discipline. The killing was not inevitable, but when you have hundreds of choices, in an environment that is notoriously morally bankrupt, to turn a blind eye to a kid who obviously had discipline issues is not smart.
Duanell Jones is another million dollar bust. The scandal of what has been going on in the Dominican for years, has finally reached the tipping point. As the scandal of widespread use of peds in MLB finally could not be contained by Bud Selig, neither can the scandal of kiddie flesh peddling in Latin America. Phony documents, steroid pumping, and all kinds of graft and corruption.
The clowns in the Bay Area media are ignoring it but you can read about some of it here and here and here and here, .
In the wake of the Washington Nationals scandal (where Jim Bowden was and is being investigated by the FBI for skimming signing bonuses of Domincan kids) Bud Selig is now making a big effing deal about sending Sandy Alderson down to the DR “to clean things up”. The whole DR scene has been a quagmire for years, and in light of the Giants experience with the unjustified scandal surrounding Barry, one would think they would have been a little more cautious in with who they were spreading money around to.
Due diligence would have raised warning flags on Villalona as it would have on Duanell Jones.
Here’s a taste of what I’m talking about: Q&A with Sandy Alderson.
Several MLB people blame the ills of the signing system on the buscones, but do you believe there still needs to be more monitoring of team employees to make sure they aren’t skimming bonuses either?
I think that’s still part of the equation. The situation with buscones is not something we can continue to tolerate. Some say that they also bring benefits to the system but those are vastly obscured by some of the abuses that exist. If we stop these abuses then maybe we can see how they can be of benefit to the players and the clubs.
by E Ticket on Apr 23, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Classic E post
/clap clap clap
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
The reason I assumed you’re talking about all Latin players is that you know nothing about Jones, aside from that fact that he’s 16 y-o, Dominican, and has now failed a drug test. In other words, you think they shouldn’t have signed Jones because of Villalona, and the only thing Jones has in common with Villalona is that he’s a Latin FA…well, not hard to see why it seemed that you’re implying the Giants shouldn’t sign Latin FA.
Now you’ve clarified that what they have in common is character issues – but based on what? On the fact that Jones used steroids? So did half the majors. So did at lest 10 or so Giants, including some very popular ones. Are they all sacks of shit too? And how could the Giants have known that he’s using steroids without testing him – do all steroids users have some common, easy to spot personality traits I’m not aware of?
How do you know that Villalona had “obviously had discipline issues” when he signed, for that matter? Did we hear anything about that before, during, or after the signing?
The rest of your comment might be true and important, but it has little to do with Duanel Jones.
I was promised lasagna.
SO SAD I CAN TASTE IT
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
What makes me want to punch a wall is that so, so much more can be said. :*(
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: AT&T Parking
WHere is a good place to park around AT&T. Any hidden gems or cheaper than the $30 they steal from you to park at the park.
you used to
be able to park under 80 ~5 blocks from the park for cheap but I think Caltrans reclaimed those lots.
If you head down third street 1/2 a mile or so you should be able to find something. Maybe a mile.
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Damn
There used to be some lot (microscopic) that was a 25 minute walk from the park but I have NO idea where it was. (I parked there with my dad to go to one of the Giants/Yankees games in 06)
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Why not MUNI/BART?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Just take the ferry to the ferry building
There should be one that leaves quite a bit before the game… Then just walk.
Spring training stats don't count. Unless you're talking about Kevin Pucetas.
by Sammy Danger on Apr 22, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The ferry stops running from the ferry building at like 7 o’clock – how’s he going to get home?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Swim
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Swim.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Swim.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 22, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Take the ferry building ferry. When the game gets out, hope they don’t ask for your ticket; if they do, tell them you took the ballpark ferry in, but your ticket fell overboard. You talked to the guy, and he told you not to worry about it, just explain to them what happened and they’ll let you on. Look really sad and lonely and cute.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
don’t the ferry building ferries stop really early, too?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
No, he’s saying “take the ferry building ferry in and then take the ballpark ferry out, pretending you took it in but lost your ticket”.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Does the ballpark ferry still run? (checks) oh it does!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
You can’t get one way tickets on both?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
What the heck do people do if they work in they live in Marin, work in the City and want to take in a game after work?
There’s gotta be a way to take the commuter ferry over earlier in the day and the ball park ferry back that evening… right?
it says ‘buy tickets on the ferry’ . so i figure one way tickets are a possibility.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
When I’ve taken the ballpark ferry from Oakland, I’m pretty sure roundtrip tickets were the only way to go.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Swam
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
My brother used the parking garage directly across from Tres Agaves (sp?) one block up from the park last season, and it was in the $15-20 range. We often use pier down the Embarcadero by I believe Red’s Java House for $20.
But like rotoreuter, I prefer Muni/BART.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
If you go to the intersection of 6th St. and Owens St., around UCSF Mission Bay, there are a limited number of parking spots where the 2-hour-parking rule ends at 6pm. So it’s the perfect place to park for night games if you can get there early enough (right around 5:30 or so) and don’t mind walking through an industrial wasteland on the way to the park. About a 15-minute walk.
This is not a signature.
On Bryant (?) and.... yeah
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Not sure, sorry
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I park for free across the street from the park. That probably doesn’t help you out though….
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If it’s a night game, park on Bryant Street. There’s almost always plenty of spots and you don’t have to pay after 6 pm.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
(And if you’re getting there before 6, just bring a lot of quarters)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I used to get there around 5:30 – everyone has gone home by then so there’s open spots and you only have a little time to pay for. Now I have a monthly parking pass at 3rd and Harrison for work, so I park there.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Shit don't give away my secret!
Been doing that since 2000
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Everytime Sabean says something regarding the difference between younger players and older ones, I want to kill something.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’ll send you a shipment of the puppies I have been kicking into space.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
puppies in SPAAAAAACE!
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Apr 22, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
A shipment of space puppies you say?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I believe Steve Miller wrote a song about them
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason I thought today Grant was going to say something that lifted my spirits. It felt much more like a kick in the groin.
/sigh
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Upcoming Rosterbation
I expect Aaron Rowand and Freddie Sanchez to return at about the same time in May, so until then the Giants will have to limp along with what they currently have in the IF/OF. However, the fun starts when the time comes to fit these gamers into games. Making the assumption that Rowand hasn’t been psychologically disabled by the HBP, he’s obviously the starting CF. Making the other assumption that salary size is directly proportional to playing time, Sanchez will start at 2B. So, what happens to the over-hustlers currently in the lineup? Will this be the McCoven’s opportunity to FTP flower-grams to Geno Velez and/or Travis Ishikawa and/or Edgar Renteria?
Scenario 1: Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Uribe IF, Downs DFA, Velez DFA
Scenario 2: Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Uribe IF, Downs DFA, Bowker DFA
Scenario 3: Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Uribe IF, Downs DFA, Torres DFA
Scenario 4: Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Downs DFA, Renteria DFA
Scenario 5: Rowand CF, Sanchez 2B, Uribe IF, Posey C-IF, Downs DFA, Ishikawa DFA
Then there are scenarios in which Aaron Rowand doesn’t rebound from the FBP.
Scenario 6: Sanchez 2B, Uribe IF, Downs DFA
Scenario 7: Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Downs DFA
Scenario 8: Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Renteria DFA
Scenario 9: Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Renteria DFA, Torres DFA
Scenario 10: Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Renteria DFA, Bowker DFA
Scenario 11: Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Renteria DFA, Velez DFA
Scenario 12: Sanchez 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Renteria DFA, Ishikawa DFA
Then there are the many scenarios in which Rowand is fine, but Sanchez is not.
Scenario 13: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Downs DFA
Scenario 14: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Velez DFA
Scenario 15: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Bowker DFA
Scenario 16: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Downs DFA, Torres DFA
Scenario 17: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Downs DFA, Bowker DFA
Scenario 18: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Downs DFA, Ishikawa DFA
Scenario 19: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Renteria DFA, Bowker DFA
Scenario 20: Rowand CF, DeRosa 2B, Uribe SS, Thomas Neal OF, Renteria DFA, Ishikawa DFA
Anyway, actually writing any more of these things is tedious, but keep in mind that between now and July 31, the composition of this team will change no matter what, so this MENTAL (UK sense) exercise is about playing the game only with pieces you know this team actually has.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Scenario 2, because Bowker has an option left and because he doesn’t have belly fire.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
R-O-W-N-A-D-S spells relief.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Downs Also Has Options
As shown by the fact that he was optioned to the minors this year prior to the start of the regular season.
To me it is pretty clear that Sabean will option Downs back to Fresno when Rowand comes off the DL and Bowker will likely follow suit when Freddie Sanchez comes off the DL.
by giantsrainman on Apr 23, 2010 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Too long
stopped reading after “Freddie Sanchez to return at about the same time in May”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I don't expect The Mole to return at all this season
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason, I think this would be really awesome. It would be really entertaining to watch them try to spin that signing.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Apr 22, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
In most of those scenarios...
…there’s no need to actually DFA anyone. Downs and Bowker and (I believe) Velez all have options remaining.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in Boston...I mean Pawtucket.
Yup Velez still has an option left.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Seriously?
Why the fuck is he in the majors…
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Player X was a September call-up from the minor leagues, where he hit very well. He hit .191/.258/.303 in 89 at-bats in the majors, though. He won a starting role the next year, but only hit .186/.308/.236 over 55 April at-bats the following season. If Player X were on the Giants, Player X would have been sent back to the minors until September, or maybe until an injury forced their hand. It’s tough to grade a team based on hypothetical situations like that, but does anyone believe that the Giants would have said, no, let’s stick this one out because we’re certain this young player is ready to contribute right now? No way. Luckily for Dustin Pedroia, he wasn’t on the Giants. The Red Sox stuck with him and were rewarded.
You’re forgetting someone here, Grant. The Giants did have a young second baseman who they stuck with last year for two hundred ABs despite a terrible hitting line. It was Emmanuel Burriss. Why it was Burriss who got chance after chance after chance after failure of a chance to prove himself instead of Schierholtz or Bowker or anyone who had actually been at least a decent hitter in the minors is just one of the wacky absurdities of the Brian Sabean era.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
But Burriss had that one hot streak when he hit an empty .330 for a month!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Good point, though I think the Giants weren’t expecting much from Burriss, and hoping that he just wouldn’t wet the bed while he played great defense. Unfortunately, he wet the bed. And how!
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
VROOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
also
In recent years, it seems that the two guys who’ve gotten the most chances as young(ish) players are the two least deserving: Eugenio Velez and Emmanuel Burriss.
Pablo doesn’t count: he was awesome from the start.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
/cries
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I still like you Manny.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m somewhat fond of him, but he never did anything tangible to show he was EVER going to be a Major League player, let alone he was a guy who could essentially jump from the California League to the Majors.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I never got over those blue eyes, I see them everywhere
I miss those arms that held me, when all the love was there
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah. By the time he gets back from his foot injury he will have some catching up to do. If he is ever a good enough hitter, it will be not for a while, and he may lose some of his speed by then, which is a big part of his game.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m in his camp
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 22, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
oh how quickly we forget
/pours out 40 for Bocock, perhaps one of the greatest roster brain farts of all time
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Burres is just another great example at how horrible Sabean is at judging talent
2007 : Burres was awful in San Jose, he then had succes once demoted to low single A
2008: Skips Double A, plays two weeks in triple A before being recalled to sit on the bench until August(because it took until then for Sabean to admit they weren’t competing for the division). Burris has some succes with the bat, granted with no slugging whatsoever.
2009: Wins 2b battle with Frandson, because of a good spring training(a troubling trend with the Giants FO)
The fact that pisses me off is that Sabean and Bochy have no regard for minor league stats at all. They liked the way Burris looked in a SSS, so they made a decision based on that, ignoring his lack of expierience in the upper minors. But, with Bowker/Schierholtz they only get noticed if they have a good spring while their minor league stats are all but ignored, as if they don’t tell you what kind of player they are.
and honestly if you want to play under a Bochy ran team, you better be a switch hitter(thats the only way an unproven player can get consistent playing time
by NateEveryday on Apr 22, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Livan Hernandez is 2-0 with a .41 ERA for arguably the worst team in baseball.
wtf, y’all.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
he’s good every 5 years
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
and Podsednik is OPSing 1.000.
Things will change.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Pokepodz!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Compare that to Wellemeyer being winless since last July, when he beat the Giants. LOL us!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
since I have Ubaldo in both of my fantasy leagues
I hope he throws 130 pitches after 8, and morales blow it in the 9th
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I was at his complete game shutout. He was throwing strikes at least….but yeah, he’s still Livan, and he still has an 84 mph fastball. It won’t last.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing Livan does surprises me.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
yep
if he died of a stroke on the mound or suddenly took flight and circled the stadium like a blimp, I’m not surprised
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I was once forced to eat a bag of mushroom right before entering a Stones concert. I have seen this already.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
You forced yourself due to security, or someone put a gun to your head?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
They were searching folks before they would let you in. It was either eat the whole thing or have them taken away.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
you could have split the difference
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
My friends told me I had a very good time
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
/pictures Lars doing the pouty Mick Jagger dancing finger wave dance along to Brown Sugar
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I do that sober!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
What year did you see them, Norseman?
1981 here.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 22, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was that year.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 23, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
forced due to love of delicious mushrooms.
what were they, morels? shitakes?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
IT WAS MAGIC INSIDE!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
SO BAD I CAN TASTE IT
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
He is white so he is not The Problem
He is The Issue.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet we somehow get Randy Winn back next season.
by GrabbingSomePine on Apr 22, 2010 3:19 PM PDT reply actions
if this happens
i will fly into space and kill all the puppies
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Those poor space puppies.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
so, I'm trying to think of all the Giants players who Sabean has publicly badmouthed in recent years
1) Fred Lewis
2) Kevin Frandsen
3) Travis Denker (I think; this might’ve been more a “sources say” situation
4) Madison Bumgarner
5) Buster Posey
6) Bengie Molina (last year, when he was “hurt” and the organization thought he should be playing, and then when Posey was called up, he suddenly was back in the lineup)
I’m sure there are more, but I’m drawing a blank now.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Players he went out of his way to defend:
Armando Benitez
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah, geez. Even after he traded that useless pile of turd, he ranted to the media about how reporters, players, and fans were mean and made him trade the poor guy. Argh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
1) Fred Lewis
2) Kevin Frandsen
3) Travis Denker
4) Madison Bumgarner
5) Buster Posey
: 0
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I DONT LIKE WHAT THIS IMPLIES
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I bet we get Chris Davis for Posey and Yuniesky Betancourt for Bumgarner.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Nah. PTBNL or Cash.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
for free, and some french fries, sound good?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
CHA CHA BOWL
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
French fries sound delicious
I have been craving them all day
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there something you could eat that would satisfy that? Like a baked version, or sweet potato fries, or something?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I guess the sweet potato fries would work. it depends on how they are prepared.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
My blood is already basically like wet concrete. That might finish the job and prevent me from having to watch this baseball team all year!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
So, win-win?
Wait – we want you to stick around. No fried lard for you.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
:-(
Seriously, what would we do withouttheLarsReport?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Make em garlic fires and you got a deal.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
shut your mouth, fiend
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- LUHG
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 22, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
STFU
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 22, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe Nathan (maybe that was just implied)
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear Adam Dunn
GET A FUCKING HIT
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
.180?
1 fucking 80?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
1 fucking 80?
HAWT
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
math porn
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
OK dude
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
It took me forever to figure out what the deal was with =/=. I mean, I knew folks were using it to indicate does not equal, but that it represented an equal sign with a slash through it…
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
faux sql
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
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"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
In programming we use != for not equal
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
≠
Macs FTW!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
so when do we trade for corey heart?
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
2019
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
A literal who's who of Who?'s: the players "developed" by Sabean's system
Torcato Niekro Jennings Lewis Frandsen Ortmeier Ishikawa Bowker Ransom Schierholtz Velez Bocock Burriss Linden Sandoval. Thank GAAWWWWWDD Sabean sacrificed winning for the sake of developing these guys…or, wait…did he sacrifice their development for the sake of winning? THEY ARE NOT OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE SAME COIN YOU DOUCHEBAG! See: Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Dustin Pedroia, Howard Utley and Rollins LLC. Please Sabes, keep your hands off my FordNealBondCrawfordPillBeltKieshnickDominguezRodriguezPosey.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Jason Stoffel, 2009 (Rookie + A-): 24IP, 1-0, 0.75 ERA, 5 S V, 25K. The heir apparent to B-Weez.
by bigboneded on Apr 22, 2010 3:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
wow.......uh
wow
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
This reads like it should have swastikas and letters cut out of magazines all over it.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Dear McC
we are holding Torcato Niekro Jennings Lewis Frandsen Ortmeier Ishikawa Bowker Ransom Schierholtz Velez Bocock Burriss Linden and Sandoval hostage. If you would like them back, leave 10,000,000 Frankenfrancs in an envelope on the dock at midnight.
Sincerely,
The Toronto Blue Jays
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Frankenfrancs.
The Richest Man In Babble On
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 22, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Non-sequential loonies, if you please.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
To be fair, only Panda has proven to be a legit. major leaguer. None of the ones who moved on have panned out.
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 22, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Liriano!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
which leads to one of two conclusions
1) Those guys all sucked (which means Sabean is terrible at drafting hitters)
2) Those guys had a chance to be good, but our player development fucked them over and they were a lost cause by the time they left.
And the jury is still out on Lewis’s post-Giants career.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I really think it’s the second thing. Posey is starting to look like a case-in-point.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Ugh, people need to stop quoting stupid scouts.
“You know, baseball needs the Mets to be good,” one scout said. "Baseball is more fun when the Mets are good and that rivalry between them and the Phillies is cooking.
Who fucking cares?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings100422
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Your user name prevents me from quoting you
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
:(
I though we were pals.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I don’t quote scouts
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
“Trustworthy, loyal helpful friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent!”
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
“Looks good in a pair of jeans.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
“WHAT IS THIS? A SCHOOL FOR ANTS?!”
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, baseball desperately needs its 6th most compelling rivalry to be firing on all cylinders!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I was just telling everyone how baseball has seemed less fun this year because of the Mets.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
:(
I don’t even know you.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
You do appreciate the irony of someone with a username of scout6 telling everyone to stop quoting scouts?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
nah i get it, I am just protesting it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
6th most compelling….interesting….what are #4-5 after Giants-Dodgers, Cardinals-Cubs, Yankees-Red Sox?
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Orioles-Nationals and Mariners-Padres.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
(I am curious for a real answer though, seemed pretty specific to call it the “6th”, and I really only think of 3 big rivalries ever)
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I tried coming up with real answers, but all I could think of were the regional interleague rivalries: Bay Bridge, Freeway, Subway, I-70, El (or whatever the nickname is in Chicago), Ohio, Florida, Texas, etc., so I went with joke answers.
But inTRAleague?
Maybe Philly-Pittsburgh when the Pirates were good? Ummm… I know Padres fans fucking hate the Dodgers, but I don’t think Angelinos reciprocate. Twins-Brewers before the league switch and/or Cubs-Brewers now? (Side note- does anyone like the Cubs? It seems like you could make solid arguments for them being specifically hated by fans of every NL Central team plus the White Sox. LOLCubs!)
Yeah, I got nothin’.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicagoans do that the Cubs/White Sox fan rivalry seriously, that’s for sure.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
As do New Yorkers with Yanks/Mets. But those are fan rivalries, not on-field. The teams have to be in the same league for it to really count, IMHO.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, competing against each other for playoff spots and playing every year (especially if it’s ~19 times because you’re in division) are what really make rivalries good and compelling. I mean, I hate the A’s – I consider them a “rival”, but I wouldn’t consider it a compelling rivalry or one anyone else should take notice of….it’s just one of those things where half your neighbors are A’s fans so you talk smack all year round and you get two series a year to settle it.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants vs A's Rivalry
There is no there, there.
I find the entire Giants vs A’s rivalry to be as compelling as scraping dogshit off one’s shoes in the parking lot.
by E Ticket on Apr 23, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
My, someone’s in a fiery mood today.
But you’re right. See this. And this. And this.
Astonishingly, I couldn’t find any examples of those hats. You know, those hats. But this is a fair approximation:

Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 23, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY?

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Maybe you just don’t interact with enough A’s fans on a normal basis and talk a lot of crap to them? I think calling it a “fan rivalry” was a good way to put it. It’s more a rivalry between the Giants fans I know and the A’s fans I know.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s more of a rivalry between the A’s fans I know and a lot of hot air.
It really seems that by and large, A’s fans feel like there’s a rivalry there and Giants fans really just don’t give a crap.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s kind of an attitude that a rivalry between the A’s and Giants would be beneath us, which just winds A’s fans up more.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yankees-Mets?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Six was just an arbitrary number, not anything I really thought about. The point is: not very compelling.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Ha, it is kinda funny though because around here (Philly), they think their rivalry is meaningful. I was kinda like….oh, you guys are rivals? Cool? I just thought it was more of a recent thing since they’ve gone down to the wire in the division a couple of times recently. I would say there’s definitely something there, but yeah….I don’t find it compelling, either.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t really notice too much of said rivalry when I was in New York, to be honest.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I could definitely see a situation where it’s a one-sided thing – Philadelphia hates them and has that “younger brother” attitude about them but Mets fans don’t really care. I’ll at least note that my roommate, who’s a Mets fan, does hate the Phillies and their players quite a bit…
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck this bullshit.
No. Stop this motherfucking nonsense. My wife’s lingerie tonight needs to be good. The Mets don’t need to be anything.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I think it’s better when the Mets are shit, personally. More lolz for everyone.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOLMets!
I just had a dude in my pokemonz league say this about the Giants’ ineptitude post-Barry:
“It’s all payback from God because Matt Cain is a pussy coward douchebag who threw at David Wright’s head”
This apparently includes the years before 2009, when the beaning occurred. God is preemptively punishing us!
Then he started into some nonsense about Barry Zito being gay, presumably because, y’know, San Francisco=teh gayz.
LOL embittered navel-gazing LOLMets fans!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I had Mets fans last year shitting all over the Giants because the Mets were a “world class franchise.”
LOL!
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Tonight, at JCB’s… A Very Special Draft Night.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
JCT’s, doh!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Not possible. Unless gun play is your idea of a good time.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
lol you.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
so, I just decided to see how Bocock was doing for the Blue Jays
In AAA Lehigh Valley: .147 / .205 / .147 in 40 PA.
wheeeeeeeee.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
and his career minor league line at this point
.226 / .298 / .307
Poor bastard.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Why is he still getting playing time? Why the hell did he ever get playing time in the MLB?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Because his name is pretty funny to write down on the line-up card.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
2 questions
Was Bochy’s nickname for him ‘Bococky’?
And do you think he’d want to play in Japan?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Jimenez at 119 pitches
w/ 0 out in the 8th
COME ON COMPLETE GAME!!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
He is the hardest throwing pitcher in the major, yeah?
If he keeps throwing 130 pitches a start, that could end badly.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Braden has his panties in a bunch over A-Rod crossing the mound to return to 1st after a foul ball.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
/A-Rod looks enviously at Braden’s panties
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The real question is, will they fit on a centaur?
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OT:
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Well, lets hope he doesnt reproduce in the clubhouse.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow.
Just wow.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 23, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Posey starting at 1B tonight for Fresno!
Gotta keep Steve Holm fresh!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions
BUSTER NEEDS TO PLAY AT AAA SO HE CAN GET EXPERIENCE CATCHING!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THE HORRIBLE TRUTH
so we can keep Molina’s bat in the lineup when he’s called up.
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
If they were just gonna put him everywhere but at catcher, why did they send him back to Fresno?
I hate how this team is run.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
This doesn’t bother me at all. Part of the reason to keep him in AAA is so you can regulate his catching workload.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This. Find a new talking point, my minions.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey should die his hair gray.
Your thoughts…
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Or even “dye” it.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 22, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
if he needs a rest
he can sit and study pitchers and hitters to “become a better receiver”. Whatever the hell that means.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, if we want to give him a rest (something we definitely should be doing for a stud prospect C), I like the idea of still getting him at bats. Grant is ok with it, so I’m ok with it.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
But didn't they send him down
not only to work on his game calling because they also thought he wasn’t ready to catch 100 games? If so then shouldn’t he you know…catch some guys to increase durability?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
It’s making me think about getting mlb.tv, since I already have a ps3. Having it easily available on my tv makes it a lot more useful.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Haha, I laugh at you guys. I have DirectTV’s baseball package and I don’t even have to pay for it. Yes, I have a PS3 so I could use mlb.tv app for it….but I don’t need to suckers!
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
well, sure, if I could get Direct TV plus Extra Innings free, then yeah, I wouldn’t need it. But this is nice, as I can get the same content for $120 vs 200+ and needing to switch tv providers, which would probably cost me something in cancellation cost.
How’d you swing it free?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Got lucky. My roommate/landlord bought the package and doesn’t charge any of us for it. Did the same with NFL Redzone.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
wow, nice.
I think this will spur some sales. I’m seriously considering it now. Especially since with this I can also watch games on my iphone for all the same cost.
Man, I sure hate blackout rules. So stupid.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Out of market archives available immediately after the game with NexDef plug-in
In-market archives available 90 minutes after the game
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
What I like about the Extra Innings package on Directv is that for the most part there are dual feeds. So I can choose my broadcasters (outside games involving Oakland and the Giants). So if I wanted to watch a little Rays-White Sox, I can completely avoid Hawk Harrelson.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I think you get this with the $120 at bat, but not with the $100 one.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
This is the TV package.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
right
I just looked up the mlb.tv rates. On the $100 one you can’t pick the broadcast, with the $120 one you can. You can also pause etc and do split screen stuff with the $120 one.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I dunno, the split screen is sort of small - like a quarter of the available.
I guess that’s in case you DO go for the gluttony of four – in – one.
Also, the DVR isn’t very fine – tuneable.
It seems to have preset time jumps when you’re trying to isolate on a particular moment.
Not that anyone cares about fine – tuning a DVR but clowns who take illegal pix and movies off it…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, plus another awesome thing is the 8 games at once channel!
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, I’m enjoying the chance to listen to other teams announcers once a series or so to get a feel for what they think about the Giants and how they are as announcers in general.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions
OT - So this is happening, in SF tonight:

Despite our conflicting views on RUSH, I think we can all agree on BOC
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Which one of those dudes has the cowbell?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Not Shown: Will Farrell
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
LOL
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 22, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser!
History shows again and again
How Nature points up the folly of men Sabean
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
needs MOAR cowbell
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
so much hair failure
but Agents of Fortune and other shit from that era is fucking $$$
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
I always hated the "Whuts ur favrit song?" question...
…but Reaper has to be in my Top 10 for classic rock.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
brings back so many bad 80’s music memories
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 22, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
“Hey guys! Sorry I missed the photoshoot!”
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
That's a guy?
Whew…I thought it was a really ugly woman.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in Boston...I mean Pawtucket.
I’m driving a guy to SF on Sunday so that he can see the Blue Oyster Cult. He’s giving me a free ticket to the Giants game in exchange.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
are they appearing as soft white underbelly?
i saw them at an sf club when they did that….brilliant concert
or James Caan
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that the best we can do is just ride this out until Sabez gets canned
/or dies, whichever comes first
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
I think our deaths are more imminent.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
McCoven mass suicide?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Whatever

"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Turtle Bengie
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Nationals lose to Rox
and still have a better record? 8-7 vs. 7-8?
weird.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
The Nationals will be pretty interesting once they have Strasburg and Harper.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Bold prediction
They’ll contend for the division in 2012.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Then they'll make some terrible deadline trade
and be back in the cellar in 2013.
Adoptive parent of Kevin Frandsen, now stopping gaps in Boston...I mean Pawtucket.
When the Nats call up Strasburg and if Wang ever comes back
They’ll be pretty decent all-around.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I think we all look forward to the day Wang comes back
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
uh....what was the excuse for the first 2 years of bochy's tenure?
when not only was the team not winning, but very few kids ever saw play….until very late in the season?
sabean hates kids
sabean hates development
its his philosophy
its why he spent years only using his high draft picks for pitching….to be used as trade bait for vets
problem is…it never worked
instead, sabean wasted trading pitchers for a catcher who never wanted to be here….vet pitchers and late season stiffs
sabean has proven time and time again that he is incapable of building a winning org
his genius ended the second bonds stopped playing
and no…i dont give him credit for building this rotation….it took the fucker 13 years….somehow, that dude across the bay does the same thing year in and year out
I always enjoy September callups
it’s exciting to see all those fresh faces in sweatshirts sitting in the dugout watching the game, just like real ballplayers.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
WHOA WHOA WHOA
Hold your horses. You don’t remember Brian Bocock? Emmanuel Burris? Velez?! We were definitely playing the kids!
Just picking the ones that made no sense to play at all. :)
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
oops...the final line should read
that dude across the bay builds winning rotations, year in and year out
Seems like the chances given to young players by the Giants are only for show. Like either Sabean or Bochy are playing these guys just long enough to appease someone.
Randy Winn last year is unforgivable – reason enough by itself to want both of those clowns fired.
Be careful with me. I'm sensitive and I'd like to stay that way.
OT: vaguely amusing
the only interesting thing about the Twitter feed in MLB At-Bat is that it scrambles obscenities, so you get stuff like this:
Votto hits sac fly, #!&*erson scores
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Sweet, I have Cunterson on my fantasy team!
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you have any other setups for me to make lady-part-related jokes?
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
My god. I think I’m turning into Howie.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
DEAL?....OR NO DEAL?

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by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats a hellofa Jamba Juice!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
True story: I worked at the Downtown Santa Cruz Jamba Juice in college. Met my wife there. She quit a few weeks after we started dating because I was thought of as the “Juice Nazi”
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
If you get a fake spray tan, you can be her orange dream machine!
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 22, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
now
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
SIRM
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions
dinner talk
There’s leftover chorizo. I was going to make tacos, but I just noticed we only have three corn tortillas left.
So, I’m improvising: we also have leftover bagels from this morning. So: chorizo bagel sandwiches! It’s an odd combo, but we’ll see.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing. Because all 50th Round picks go to heaven (or at least Salem-Keizer).
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Its my birthday, so I’m going out to a French place in my neighborhood with the wife.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I’m working tonight and I’m thinking of getting a shawarma sandwich on the way home.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’d kill someone in front of their own mother to have a Shawerma from Truly Mediterranean on 16th and Valencia.
Nah, but I’d kick someone’s leg in front of their mother for one… Not hard, though.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
those are mighty tasty
Ali Baba’s Cave isn’t bad either.
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Apr 22, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
shawarma is good
but man, I really really love me some kefta.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I might try their Kofta sandwich next time I go
I love Middle Eastern food, basically
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Right after I left college, I had a Palestinian roommate. Every so often his parents would come up and cook. Kefta kebab on the grill, stuffed grape leaves. My mouth is watering just thinking about it.
Man, my 2nd game at PacBell, back in 2000…weekday day game, went to his parents shop before the game. She made us fried chicken sandwiches. Like the simplest things ever. Mindblowingly good. Some people just have a gift.
Damnit. I’ve got nothing in the kitchen that can satiate.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Man I just finished my shawarma like twenty minutes ago and now I want Kofta. Dammit, Stankus.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I keep meaning to make kefta myself. It doesn’t look too hard.
Of course, I know I can’t measure up, so I’m not sure if I’ll just ruin my memories.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Leftover BBQ goat, seekh kababs, asparagus/red onion salad and brown rice.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Meatless enchilada casserole
With the green sauce
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I dunno. Something easy from the freezer. I’ve made real food all week, and today’s been a hella long day.
So there.
Oh, and wine.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Frozen Pizza!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’ll heat it up first, though.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t get it either. He doesn’t throw particularly hard, he doesn’t have great command – there’s no good reason for him to be in the majors right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, not that I don’t think he has a chance to be good eventually, it just seems pointless to use his service time up right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I know very little about the NL Centrel
Bu are the Reds even contenders? Cardinals look much better. And it’s hard to see them win the wild card over teams from the West and East.
I was promised lasagna.
Lineup tomorrow, if I had my druthers
DeRosa LF
Uribe 2b
Sandoval 3b
Huff 1b
Bowker RF
Molina C
Schierholtz CF
Renteria SS
Lincecum P
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Rentarhea in the 8 hole!
LOLs
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
When you spell it like that, it makes me think of gonorrhea.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Diarrhea.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Not one of the three is a positive.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I’m now going to connect Renteria and gonorrhea forever.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
One costs $9mm to clear up, the other can be taken care of at the free clinic
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Well I usually urinate whenever he comes to the plate
and…now that I remember it does burn occasionally. Coincidence? I think not.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Oh look the draft has started.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Roethlisberger to the Raiders for 2010 1st, 4th round, 2011 2nd round picks?!?
Oh… no, I made that up.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
just going to say it now
LOL RAIDERS!
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 22, 2010 5:27 PM PDT reply actions
YEAH MEROPE!
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
It’s always funny to watch the ESPN draft commentators react to Al Davis selections
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently they did okay with the linebacker dude they picked tonight. I’m a Raider fan from the olden days, mid 70’s to mid 80’s – I never liked Al Davis, even while understanding the good things he did, he just came off as too much of a shyster, and I really don’t like him now.
Ma'am, no one does.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently they did okay with the linebacker dude they picked tonight
I like how we judge the draft before they’ve ever even played a snap. “We read the internet and think Player X was a good value at Pick Y! Successful draft, Raiders!”
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Getting excited about the Draft
is like getting excited about winning Fantasy Baseball.
Playing Fantasy League is cool. Winning Fantasy League doesn’t mean you’re smart. It just means you’re spending far too much time indoors.
by E Ticket on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
McClain isn't that bad of a pick IMO
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
no
he sounds solid.
but Al Davis makes Brian Sabean look like he has a plan
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
pretty much
and it’s not like mcclain is a great pick. He’s just “not a disaster”, which is an improvement for them.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
the functional equivalent to the DeRosa signing
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
hah
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s just "not a disaster"
Hard to be a disaster when you haven’t even played a snap yet, or had a chance to get arrested for something stupid (raping a girl, anyone?)!
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The thinking is thus
A young player might have confidence issues because he has never succeeded at the major league level.
A veteran has succeeded before in the majors and therefore will not have his confidence destroyed.
Or something. There’s a bit of truth to it, but it’s ridiculous because if you don’t let a young player play through a rough start or a rough stretch then his confidence will definitely be crushed as opposed to the chance that he starts succeeding and actually gains confidence.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Seriously, have they ever considered telling a kid they believed in him and he’s going through a rough patch but they support him and will let him play his way out because they know he has talent….?
Nahhhhhhhh, why would they do that?!
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLBoSox
LOLPeavy
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
LOL
I started to type “I know, it’s the rumor that won’t die” and realized right before I hit post what a terrible pun that would be. But dang, can someone else please sign him or can he go to Japan before Sabean starts kicking those tires again
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone in my fantasy league (I know, second story of such in the thread; stop bringing up pertinent topics, dammit!) spent $17 of his FAAB on Dye. Seventeen dollars on a guy without a job. That’s nearly a sixth of his entire $120 season budget.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
was somebody actually bidding against him?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope. It wasn’t the in the draft, but rather the in-season Free Agent Acquisition Budget, which is a blind single bid. No one has bid more than $7 for any other player this year. So- setting aside the fact that Dye isn’t actually a currently employed baseball- even if someone HAD bid against him, he would’ve been wasting money.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
that's...that's just
hey, we have an opening in our OOTP league…can you point him my way?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Somebody should make a draft thread.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 6:40 PM PDT reply actions
You can go to the 49ers (or other football) board for that
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
But I dont know anyone over there. What if they are mean to me?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking. Either way, the draft is almost over.
BREAKING NEWZ!
Football Jesus Tebow is a Bronco!
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
ba-dum ching!
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Father, forgive them, for they know not whom they boo.

Al Davis (right) glares at Tim Tebow.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That can’t be Al Davis – no track suit.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
howie is a mod there.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
LOLHOWIE
By the way, howtheyscored, would you respond to “Howie” in real life, if I saw you walking on the street and yelled it to you or something?
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
I might start to respond, but then I’d try to pretend like I didn’t hear it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought your actual first name was Howie
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Nope, it’s scored.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
THAT'S WHAT
SHE SAID
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I bet there are a bunch of people who do.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
to be fair
I call everyone with a failbeard ‘Howie’
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
They are a bunch of meanies over there.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Screaming blue meanies?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 22, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
they bleed red and gold they bleed red and gold they bleed red and gold they bleed red and gold
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I just tried to join to talk about the draft, but I have to wait a day anyway, so thats kind of pointless.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I just tried to join to talk about the draft, but I have to wait a day anyway, so thats kind of pointless.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I just tried to join to talk about the draft, but I have to wait a day anyway, so thats kind of pointless.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
The NFL draft is fucking stupid. There, I said it. It’s not a sporting event. Nothing athletic happens. Sweet, a few players got added to a roster for a sport that’s 5 months away! It’s about as exciting as….signing a free agent. Certainly something worth talking about a little bit, but watching it as a televised event? Really? Stupid.
by Missing Barry on Apr 22, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, one of those kids could trip and fall walking up to that podium and sprain an ankle, someone might injure a shoulder reaching for their cell phone!!! Don’t say it’s not a sporting event!!!!!
So it’s more of a sport than golf, is what you’re saying?
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Just thought I would get this out of the way now
LOL SHARKS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 22, 2010 7:32 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Lars,
Will you be joining us?
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/4/21/1436078/the-mccoven-at-mccoveys
I asked at nine thirty yesterday morning about whether there was some sort of game ticket arrangement.
The question is still unanswered.
So now I have another: Is this an invitation – only event, or what?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don't understand how a team can have an offense this bad for this long
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
By having Randy Winn as your 5th hitter.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
The Giants are the only team
to finish in the bottom 6 of the league in offense each season since 2005, a season where they managed to finish second to last in runs with 130 games of Barry Bonds.
No one else has managed to pull that off, not the Pirates, not the Padres, not the Mets, not Houston, not the Nationals. No one.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Anyone got a link to ATDHE Sharks game?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 7:57 PM PDT reply actions
http://www.atdhe.net/17881/watch-colorado-avalanche-vs-san-jose-sharks
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
ily
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
From what the folks on FTF are saying all the feeds are the Pittsburgh/Ottawa game, which is in OT
KFOX radio has a free audio stream
It will probably come on after this game. I can wait.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet 2nd period by the Sharks...
Anderson is not his usual super-human self tonight (giving up lots of rebounds which were almost non-existent previously) and even though the Sharks didn’t score in the 1st period, I think they could smell the blood in the water.
Justin Smoak is here.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions
I am a genius
picked him up 2 days ago. Couldn’t wait anymore.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Im apparently naive. I picked up Chris Davis a couple days ago. Oops. Oh well. Just dropped him for Smoak.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 22, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
OK THAT SOUNDS VERY FAIR
WHERE DO I SIGN UP?
(But you’ll also have to take 3 kittehs).
(And also – YOU’LL HAVE TO PRY MY HALLADAY FROM MY COLD DEAD FINGERS! The dude is gold.)
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
But SELL HIGH
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’d have to be high to trade my Halladay.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
sell HGH
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
OT: Sharks!!
solid win
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 22, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions
WHOO!
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 22, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster Posey is one Buster Olney’s prospects to watch for the 2010 (pennant) race.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Busty likes Busty
Sounds like a Girl Girl porn series
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
So he's predicting a trade?
/bans self, cries.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
The 49ers are one of the 3 best teams in the NFC right now
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
You got what you want: no Jimmy Clausen.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
What we all wanted.
LOL him not even going in the first round. Tebow getting picked over him is a total slap in the face.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
still time to get him
he’s still on the board, right?
Although, I imagine that you aren’t totally opposed to him, just him early?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
If they take him in the 2nd
I’ll be annoyed, but not homicidal like I would have been. I honestly didn’t think they’d be that stupid, they’ve been really good in the draft lately and continued that string here. Totally effing brilliant first round.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think they'll do that
If he’s unlikely there in the 3rd, well, then take him.
They are committed to what they have at QB anyway.
I think they’ll try to take the best DB with the 2nd, anyway.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yeah, I don't either
just sayin, it wouldn’t be as annoying. DB for sure, though IDK much about who’s gonna be left. DB is probably the biggest need at this point
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
it is, so maybe they try to strike gold in later rounds?
At this point, you’ve got to target the best player available anyway.
I’m hoping these lineman pay out. Right now, I’m happy they got them. If they work out, then Gore can be an absolute beast.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
HI!
Taylor Mays here!
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 23, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't really want him.
49ers don’t need another quarterback, let Smith have if this year.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Q "How much thought did you give to drafting a QB?"
A “very little”
Good.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
besides, Clausen is a dick
who will get his clock cleaned by the players on whatever team is stupid enough to draft him.
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I have not heard Clausen is a dick, and I have a friend that knows him.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve heard this a lot from somebody who knows somebody who Clausen was mean to in High School. It seems really dumb.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
well, that person was probably a nerb
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Ha, maybe it just shows how hard it is to take one persons word for something? LIke my friend that knows Clausen knows him because they have a mutual friend they’re both good friends with – so they’ve all hung out a couple of times and my friend said he had a good time with Clausen. So whatever! Just one person’s view….
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I know somebody who had a friend who was brothers with a dude who went to school with Clausen for a year in the sixth grade, and he said that Clause was a poop-face.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Clausen, too.
Man, it’s a good thing my job doesn’t require me to type or be proficient with the language or anything… because I’d be screwed!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY SANTA?!?
Clause was a poop-face
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Oh come on, the premise of the story involves one of my good friends hanging out with Jimmy Clausen. I don’t think that comment was warranted at all.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I wasn’t trying to be mean… :(
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, champ.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Their hugest problems last year
oline and return man. Both have been addressed and they have a 2nd and 3rd round pick left in one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. They are really good.
LOL broncos. Holy shit.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
There have been no games played yet, so I am not crowning them anything.
And to say they are the 3rd best in the league is a very tall order.
but yes, LOL broncos indeed. Are they trying to beat out the Raiders as the laughing stock of the AFC west?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
They are either going to look totally ridiculous or crazy smart. No middle ground.
Going to be fun for us either way. Brass ones on their GM.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Tebow will never play QB in the NFL
he will never be a starter and will become a minister/divinity student within 3 years. Broncos are already a laughing stock. This will complete the picture.
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Picking him will drive ticket sales with the fundamentalist set.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 23, 2010 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
VAPORS
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
3rd best in the conference
big difference. top 10 in the whole league. Right now I’d say new orleans is probably ahead of them, but after that it’s pretty close with any other NFC team. They could compete with anyone out there with this group.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I'd say top 5/6 in the whole league
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 22, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess we'll see amigo :-)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
you forgot the word “West” after NFC
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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seriously
teams clearly better than the 49ers:
NO, DAL, PHL, GB. MIN
teams probably better than the 49ers, but not much better
NYG, ARZ, CAR.
Drafting 2 OL in the first round does not automagically “fix” the worse OL in the NFL, nor does Ted Ginn fix the worst punt return team in the NFL.
That being said – it is encouraging that they actually attempted to address their weaknesses. I was pretty sure they were going draft Tebow out of irony.
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Philly might be a strecth.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Apr 23, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Niners really could be good. Their defense is good. They have a full year of Crabtree and he has NFL experience now. Better Oline, which was their real weakness. And Ginn DOES fix the worst punt return team in the NFL, how would he not? Isn’t the returner the big factor there? Their D is already good. I’m not saying they’re definitely top 3 in the NFC, but is it really that implausible? Seems to me team success can change really quickly in the NFL.
by Missing Barry on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Early yes
But Scott Podsednik is playing well. Hitting .449 (22 for 49) OPS of .996 (with only one double).
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Oh, he’s under 1.000 now?
Slacker.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Oh Baggs, not you too.
So barring a play for Jermaine Dye, there’s really just one very good right-handed bat the Giants could add to the roster. We’re talking about Buster Posey, of course.
Nothing would surprise me, but I don’t think you’ll see Posey during this homestand. The Giants still seem to trust first baseman Aubrey Huff against left-handers. And Bengie Molina is still the catcher. Those are Posey’s positions. So he wouldn’t help them where their need is most acute.
The Giants also want to pick the right spot to bring Posey up to the big leagues. When he arrives, they want him to arrive for good. Having him face Adam Wainwright, Roy Halladay, etc., right out of the gate is probably not terrific from a development standpoint.
I actually think they don’t care who he faces right off and would probably look for a time like this to bring him up so he goes 0-12 so they can say “SEE HE WUZ NOT READY!” and resign Bengie.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
That’s Thomas Neal.
But Posey will be good too
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Neal is the Deal
Posey will be rosey, I supposey.
Buster has luster
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Thomas "Real Deal" Neal?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
/trades Buster Posey to the Blue Jays for Fred Lewis and Merkin Valdez
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
/bans self
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
/trades Thomas Neal for Ryan Garko
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
/bans self and SFGuy for giving me the idea.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
onanism
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Facing three pitchers is not good developmentally? God damn.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 22, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS!
Alex Rodriguez is still an arrogant prick!
Both both the Pirates and Nationals saw their fans just give up and cheer the visiting team today; Pirates fans as they saw history in the first 20-0 game since 1889, the worst loss in franchise history, and the third-largest run differential in a three-game series (they got outscored 36-1; you thought the Giants had a bad series?)
Nationals fans cheered Ubaldo Jimenez rather heartily as he walked to the dugout with one out in the 8th: “OMG! You threw a no-hitter a few days ago somewhere else!”
Also, Matt Kemp continued his misadventures in the field. Why do I keep hearing this klutz is a five-tool player? Little help, gif-makers?
Finally… Alex Rodriguez: still a douche.
Proud parent of Will the Thrill, standard-bearer of The Giants Way.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 11:00 PM PDT reply actions
Oh, and...
in an eight-day span, Baltimore, Cleveland, Seattle, and Toronto all saw the smallest crowd in their stadia’s respective histories. Toronto has since broken that record. :-(
(Oxford comma FTW!)
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The first, third, and fourth of that photo sequence. (<- There it is again!)



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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Apr 22, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec’d simply because I always use that comma.
My adopted son is RHP Steve Edlefsen, currently above Gerald Posey on the catching depth chart.
Also, BEAT LA!!! Preferably now.
I write a column for the campus newspaper
And they use AP style, which eschews the oxford comma. I still leave it in. It makes the sentence flow better when read aloud.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
It more accurately mimics speech patterns.
Go ahead and say the following phrase out loud:
My favorite baseball players are “Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, and Tim Lincecum”
At least the way I speak, the pause between the words “Mays” and “Barry” is identical to the pause between “Bonds” and “and”.
So if the speech is the same, why the hell shouldn’t the punctuation be?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Ah, fuck me
That entire sample sentence should be in quotations, ie
“My favorite baseball players are Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, and Tim Lincecum”
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Touche
Hah. I never thought about it in terms of speech. I just always preferred the way it read without the last comma.
Plus, I’ve been brainwashed by AP Style.
Bring Rusty back.
It's an oft-debated subject
I always got into the habit of reading my papers out loud before I turned them in, so my writing starting mimicing my speech more closely. I’ve always tried to write paper the way that they would sound if they were read out loud, if that makes sense. Hence my desire to make a paper “sound” good.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Fresh as a daisy!

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 23, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions
make it STOP!!!
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Toby Gerhardt not drafted so far
dude is white
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
Both are true statements on their own.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
wow, 20 runs
i’d take 20 in a week
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Uribe and Sanchez
What happens to Uribe when Sanchy is healthy? If Renteria is back to his inevitable 2009 ways when Sanchez recovers, would Bochy ever bench Renteria in favor of Uribe?
I don’t think so.
Weaksauce.
Bring Rusty back.
Don’t worry, FSanchez will never be back.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim Flannery, wave them home.
Wait
didn’t we just sign him for lots of money?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
certain body parts were not part of the deal
if Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff are the answer, I guess I just didn't understand the question.
I seem to remember
A time last year when Rent was particularly slumpy and was fairly repeatedly benched in favor of Juan.
I could be making that up, but I feel like there’s precedent.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
So...
Jonathan Sanchez and Yadier Molina came into my restaurant tonight. It caught me off guard and I couldnt stop staring. Didn’t recognize Yadier until the end, because I was observing Dirty. There was a 3rd gentleman. Logic would say it was Bengie, being that Yadier is in town for the only time of the year, but i don’t think it was. I didnt really look though, i just know he wasnt big enough.
Yadier paid, and left a nice tip for the young lady that took care of them.
It was so strange to see Jonathan though because he acted EXACTLY the same as he did on the mound and on tv. Very withdrawn and quiet demeanor, but not shy. I was planning on comping the meal, but they paid before I could get in contact with the server. After I found out that Yadier paid, I really wish I did comp it. Make Jonathan look like a big shot in front of the old vet.
Anyways, cool story, thought id share.
by projectmayhem713 on Apr 23, 2010 2:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The only question that remains
Is where the hell was Bengie?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Emptying out the reefers and dessert trays while projectmayhem713 was distracted by Yadir flashing his pimp roll.
by E Ticket on Apr 23, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
In the kitchen
cutting out the middle man AKA the “waiter”
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Old vet?
Yadier Molina and Jonathan Sanchez are the same age. Well, I guess technically Molina is 4 months older…
what??
wow, i am blown away by this. i feel like hes been around forever.
by projectmayhem713 on Apr 23, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions

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