Defending the indefensible defensive assets
Let’s talk seriously for a second. You’re on a nerdy internet baseball site, which means that you’re so, so much smarter than those provincial, common, peanut-chomping, foam-finger-wearing regular fans just by virtue of being here. You know this is true. You’re enlightened. It’s not bad to be an elitist if you’re one of the elite, right, you beautiful creature?
Being such a proud, evolved internet baseball nerd comes with responsibilities, though. It can’t all be women, wild parties, and digital glory. If you are so, so enlightened, you have to reject sample-size temptations in all their forms. Be strong.
The obvious example is John Bowker, and there will be a lot of groupthink agreement on this here. He’s hitting .200/.250/.333 with eight strikeouts in 30 at-bats…but that’s the point. Thirty at-bats. In 2006, Barry Bonds hit .200 in his first 30 at-bats with a slugging percentage of .300. Sure his on-base percentage was a ridiculous .529, but even past the 16th game of the season, people were freaking out about Bonds. The point isn’t to compare Bowker to Bonds, but to point out that it’s always a bad idea to make too much of a limited sample.
And that extends well beyond 30 at-bats, too. When you have a guy who hits like this in the minors but this in his first 500 major league at-bats, you’ll often feel like this, even though it’s probably a good idea to be patient and wait for this based on that minor league performance.
This isn’t a give-Bowker-a-chance post, though. You’re a) enlightened, genius internet folk, as referenced above, and b) you’re all my mindless minions, and you all think John Bowker will be a productive corner outfielder because I’ve told you so. So I’m not going to waste your time.
No, this is a Andres-Torres-is-a-good-benchie-and-spot-starter post.
He’s fast, and he plays a great centerfield. He’s been good against lefties over the past three seasons. There’s a little pop in his bat, and he plays hard. As a fifth outfielder, he’s more than qualified. His OPS+ right now is a comical -5, but that’s over 18 at-bats. Eighteen at-bats. Calls for his release are way premature.
The rebuttal is obvious: "Small sample size this, pal, because I’ve watched every Andres Torres at-bat this year, and he looks completely lost." True enough. He’s hacking at breaking balls in the dirt, chasing pitches at his eyeballs, and taking pitches right down the middle. He looks awful. The rebuttal to the rebuttal: well, duh. Bengie Molina looks like a .400 hitter right now. The dude’s putting great swings on balls low in the zone and driving the ball to all fields. When a player is slumping, they’ll look bad. When a player is hot, they’ll look invincible. The whole point of having a large sample of career at-bats is to help you look past that.
The cry for Torres’s head both here and on talk radio reminds me just a little of the Juan Uribe hate from last year. Well, that’s been mostly forgotten since Uribe sucked the lifeforce out of Alfonso Soriano at some point last season, but for a while people here were really offended by Uribe's presence. I even had to write a mini-defense of him. Just ignore the similarly themed Rich Aurilia defense in the same post, and we’ll get along fine.
When Torres hit into a double play last night, I fired a plastic green bell pepper across the room in anger. Really, I did. It was my daughter’s toy, and she saw the whole thing as she watched quietly, wondering why her daddy was so upset, and while she didn’t cry, I’m sure the psychic scars will be unearthed after hypnosis in a couple of decades. So Andres Torres is, by proxy, screwing with my daughter’s mind. I have every reason to overanalyze his slow start. The anger and frustration felt by every Giants fan is legit. It’s completely appropriate to wince every time he comes to the plate. But when it comes to roster decisions and lineup moves, a more patient approach is required. With Aaron Rowand out, Torres should still get the bulk of the time in center. There just aren’t a lot of options, and there’s a reasonable chance that Torres will be, if not as good as last year, a decent enough fill-in.
But, yeah, this is the San Francisco Giants organization. Bowker isn’t going to get another start until June, and Torres is about another 10 at-bats away from getting released. Good times.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions
I do totally agree that people calling for Torres’s release are being ridiculous.
Also, that explanation for why Juan Uribe is good all of a sudden makes a terrifying amount of sense.
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It’s a matter of perspective. You see the 2.0 WAR player we had from 2009 who put up an OPS of .870. I see a career slightly below replacement level player with a career OPS of .650.
This is the same perspective I have on Uribe. I’m not rooting for him to fail so I can be correct, but a career average of awful makes me cautious.
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by SeeingStars on Apr 20, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Again, a career OPS of .650, all of which was accumulated in four seasons of 264 PA total?
And then we complain that the Giants are burying Bowker/Frandsen/etc based on similar PA totals scattered over similar numbers of seasons?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I can’t speak on behalf of others, but my complaints regarding those players comes from the fact that they might have a possible future with the club since they’re all relatively young. I generally frown upon 30+ year olds whose offense revolves around speed (except for Ichiro of course).
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Willie McGee!
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He was pretty awesome. Then again every Giant was when I was 8.
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I’ve been thinking about doing an extended fanpost appreciation of non-superstar Giants outfielders I’ve loved over the years to commemorate the departure of Fred Lewis. McGee would be one.
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My wife would want me to, but no.
It would include Mike Aldrete, though! And Mark Carreon!
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Mike Aldrete was a pretty decent ballplayer
Brett Butler is one of my favorite non-superstar Giants.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
The Dodger thing costs him, though.
Darryl Hamilton could be another possibility, now that I think of it.
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Aw Darryl
Good fielder, but most sentimental to me for being the “give” part of Sabean’s best trade ever.
Ellis Burks rocked. He was not a thin-air hitter, and Sabean was smart enough to see that.
Or maybe he wasn’t! Maybe he bought the thin air thing, thought he was getting a steal, and got blindly lucky. See what you guys are doing to me?
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by icanplaythird on Apr 20, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I always liked him, even if he wasn’t really that good offensively. Good defense though.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He won a gold glove but was robbed of at least one more. He was my favorite player growing up, it killed me when they traded him to Cincy for Deon Sanders.
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by icanplaythird on Apr 20, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Ken Henderson please
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
But under normal circumstances, he’s a 4th/5th OF who can play good defense, has good speed and hits lefties well. Who would you rather see in that role?
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Oh yea I definitely agree with you all on that. Still the issue remains so long as Bochy is at the helm, Torres is more of a 3rd/4th OF.
We can’t get rid of Bochy and I’d rather risk losing Torres through waivers if it means someone of Bowker/Schierholtz gets a chance.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
I think no Torres equals more Velez, to be honest.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that’s why things like projections are useful, to give us a better idea of what, historically, similar players have done with that kind of track record….
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Let it be stated that while I think Torres is a bad baseball player, I have defended his role as a backup and have never called for his release.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m in this camp as well
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Start Bowker, Nate, and Velez tonight
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Sounds good to me
I’d also like Nate to be the CF when DeRosa comes back.
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Also, I really would like to see what happens if Nate plays center-field for one game at least.
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The universe would collapse on itself
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by bondslegend on Apr 20, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
But according to F.P., centerfield is the easiest position in the outfield! Or was it “centerfolds are easy to get into the missionary position”? Maybe I need to go back to the KNBR podcast and review that one.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve actually been intrigued by the idea of a Nate/Torres CF platoon for a while now….
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
But they both hit lefties better than righties
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
That was pretty much only ever the case for Nate last year.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Well
It’s the case over the course of all of his major league at-bats, but admittedly that’s a SSS.
OPS vs Righties: .669
OPS vs Lefties: 1.005
In 633 PA’s.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=schiena01&year=Career&t=b
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
minor leagues
OPS vs RHP: .881
OPS vs LHP: .817
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
How many PA's?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
To use splits at all, you need a huge sample. Bigger sample is always better, even if they’re minor league numbers. Honestly, I would guess that none of the splits you can come up with are big enough anyways, so you should just assume his splits are average.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m fine with Torres in center – hell, the Giants can hit him leadoff even, but Bowker should be in left or right until Derosa’s back. And keep that Eugenio guy out of the damn lineup.
/checks box on MCC groupthink chart
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not down on Torres because of the current season's SSS totals
I’m down on him because he’s a 32-year old journeyman with a career 72 OPS+ and a .758 career minor league OPS, and yet he’s starting in front of Bowker because he had a probably-flukey season last year.
With that having been said, he’s perfectly acceptable as a fifth outfielder and I’d absolutely take him over Velez.
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Is he starting in place of bowker though?
pretty sure that’s velez. Bowker wouldn’t play CF
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by bondslegend on Apr 20, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he’s starting and Bowker’s not is what I really meant.
But when Rowand first went down, the talk was that it would be Velez in CF. Which would be worse.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Yes
my view all along has been WTF on velez. Torres makes sense since he can play CF, but there is absolutely no rationale for starting Velez over bowker.
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/mentions fantasy baseball team
I’m down on him because he’s a 32-year old journeyman with a career 72 OPS+ and a .758 career minor league OPS, and yet he’s starting in front of Bowker because he had a probably-flukey season last year.
I’d weight Torres’s last couple of AAA seasons more heavily — he totally reworked his approach from a slappy Juan Pierre wannabe to the swing-from-the-shoes guy he is now, and it made a difference in Iowa.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 20, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why he has any business even being a fifth outfielder, yes. But even in those last three AAA seasons, he only even came close to last year’s .876 OPS once, so it doesn’t change my suspicion that last year was a fluke. And I’m pretty sure that last year’s major league numbers are why he’s getting playing time now, because that’s consistently been how the Giants operate.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I’m pretty sure he’s getting playing time right now because Aaron Rowand is injured and he’s our best center-fielder.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Fair enough.
There is a fair bit of kneejerk OMG VELEZ AND TORRES ARE STARTING AND NOT BOWKER AND THEY DUMPED FRED TOO WTF going on in my thinking here.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
If Bowker isn’t starting against the RHP tonight, I think it will be time to panic.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m afraid to see the lineup precisely because of this possibility.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If that happens, then i’m gonna beat myself over the head with a hammer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i read this as "filled with rape"
HEY, LET'S FUCKING TRADE FRED LEWIS FOR A BAG OF POPCORN, BUT KEEP EUGENIO VELEZ... AND PLAY HIM AGAINST LEFTIES! .241 MINOR LEAGUE AVERAGE! BRILLIANT!
This
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I'm already freaked out
I still think by the end of the year Bowker should be the clean up hitter…and he will be. For Fresno.
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by say hey nation on Apr 20, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
But it’s not like Torres has started exclusively in center field to spell Rowand. He’s also started in right field against lefties at the expense of Bowker, and will probably do so more once Rowand is back. So it’s still not like it’s strictly Torres over Velez on the depth chart, it IS Torres over Bowker, at least against lefties.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
it IS Torres over Bowker, at least against lefties.
But is that a bad thing?
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not qualified to answer that question… But I’d think that it’s a bad thing if Torres isn’t hitting lefties, and we have too many games against lefties all at the same time. In situations like that, yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
It’s pretty clearly been a bad thing in hindsight, but I’ve yet to see the case made that, going forward, we should expect Bowker > Torres against LHP…..so I ask because I’m curious if anyone has a real case for that. Speak up, I say!
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I DON'T HAVE A CASE FOR THAT!!!
In retrospect, I realize that typing in all caps doesn’t really equate to speaking up, does it? And it mostly makes me look like a douche.
Anywho, the best case I can make is that Bowker has only sucked against lefties in 44 major league PAs. That’s not exactly damning evidence that he CAN’T hit lefties. I don’t know what his minor league numbers look like against lefties, and I really don’t know what they look like against lefties in AAA last season, with a revamped approach. Does anyone else here know?
All told, I’m not aware of a reason NOT to start Bowker versus lefties right now, regardless of Torres.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I have a case for that. It is velvet lined with a hard shell!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s probably best to just use MLB average splits for Bowker. I posted the potential case why Torres > Bowker against LHP in here somewhere.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
His BABIP last season was Ichiro-like.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Not safe, but good!
…Oh wait, I thought you were wishing he was Aslan.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
No, you're right...
…he’s hardly ever safe, and gets outs all the time. Ergo the problem.
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Fred Lewis is the problem.
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I don’t think it’s at all fair to cite his 72 career OPS+, which was accumulated in scattered ABs over four seasons half a decade ago, and then tout Bowker.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Fair enough. And I put a lot more weight on his minor league career.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
He’s been quite a bit better the last few years in the minors though.
And beyond that – John Bowker wasn’t particularly good in the minors until last year either.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And this is not to say that
I don’t think Bowker should be starting every day, because obviously I do.
But right now Torres is certainly the best choice to play in center field, especially against LHP.
The usage of Velez is the real issue.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
velez playing against LHP's
makes me want to set fire to kittens.
HEY, LET'S FUCKING TRADE FRED LEWIS FOR A BAG OF POPCORN, BUT KEEP EUGENIO VELEZ... AND PLAY HIM AGAINST LEFTIES! .241 MINOR LEAGUE AVERAGE! BRILLIANT!
Adjusting for ballpark, Bowker’s 2007 in Connecticut was probably better than anything Torres has ever done in the minors.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
This is kind of pointless because, obviously, I think Bowker is greater than Torres. But Bowker can’t play center-field, Torres can. And unless you’d like to see Eugenio Velez as the starting CF, I think Torres is our best choice to play the position for now (though, again, I would like to see them try Schierholtz out there.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
BUT DARREN FORD!
AND CLAY TIMPNER!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
but seriously
He may well be the best of a bad set of options right now, yeah. But he’s still not a very good option, and there are reasons to think that beyond his current woes.
It probably goes without saying that what we need isn’t a new centerfielder, but a new GM. Hooray for lost causes.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I dunno, I think most teams would be forced to resort to mediocre options if their CF was out for an extended period of time.
(Then again… our CF is mediocre to begin with, so.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
(Then again… our CF is mediocre to begin with, so.)
There you go!
Hey, remember when we had five center fielders!?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Are you saying the Giants should Matheny him?
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what this means. You want they should give him post-concussion syndrome!?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Hey, it’s the Giants medical staff. They can do anything!
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Just don’t mess with the batting stance, that’s all he asks.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope he gets a horrible concussion that he can never recover from?
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
things that wouldn't make Aaron Rowand retire
1) face bitten off by raccoon
2) fungo bat permanently embedded in skull
3) both arms fall off
4) burns over 90% of the body
5) Five consecutive seasons with OPS+ in the negative range
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I’m not sure the raccoon thing will work.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
gah!
STOP IT! Rowand is overpaid, but average. He’s not the problem any more than Fred Lewis was. If we had someone matching Rowand’s production (relative to position) at every position, we’d be a playoff team.
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If we had someone matching Rowand’s production (relative to position) at every position, we’d be a playoff team.
We’d also have something like a $150M+ payroll….
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yet he’s starting in front of Bowker because he had a probably-flukey season last year.
Exactly. Bowker’s projected around .272/.344/.445 (I’m averaging Chone & Zips), for a wOBA of .345. But lefties typically have a 25-point split in wOBA, which means Bowker’s going to be like .352 vs rhp and .327 vs lhp. Something like that.
Torres’s projections: .251/.320/.394, wOBA of .316. Righties typically have a less-pronounced split … call it .312 vs rhp and .326 vs lhp.
Now they’re almost even, and with Torres’s defensive advantage it’s not close.
-Evan
Torres really might be the better option….
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
In center, I agree. Outside of that, while I agree Torres might be the better option (based on defense and against lefties), I’d rather go with Bowker. Torres can spell Rowand in center and Derosa in left and replace Bowker defensively (if that’s even really worth it). I want to see what Bowker can really do.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 20, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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I lol’d at everything. Because Grant told me to.
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WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
CF Nate
LF Bowker
RF Torres
or
CF Torres
LF Bowker
RF Nate
Notice that I didn’t include DeRosa? That is because he will go all Mole on us and won’t play more than 70 games this season.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions
:/ thanks
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by bondslegend on Apr 20, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
JUAN URIBE
AS I SUSPECTED
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
I’m not as down on Torres as I am Velez. At least we know Torres can defend. Velez prevents Torres from trying to defend by running in front of him every chance he gets.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
If Velez had run into Torres on that play, I would probably have thrown something at my computer.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
great centerfield?
/goes to Fangraphs
//is shocked by Torres’ UZR/150
///shrugs
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Fred Lewis would make a great OF
Except for the fact he dropped the ball that one time.
So he must not be that great.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
Also, sometimes he strikes out looking, and that’s just unamerican.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
And math people tell me he's good
I hate math, therefore I hate him!
What's wrong with math?

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Velez? Puhleeze.
He doesn’t know how to run the bases. He doesn’t know how to play the outfield. Other than that he’s perfect.
by GiantMalcontent on Apr 20, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
You forgot the part about how he doesn’t have any clue how to hit and he doesn’t know how to play the infield.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
He's getting better
Hasn’t made the first out at third ALL SEASON! A miracle.
by GiantMalcontent on Apr 20, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
/bookmarks your comment
If he does this tonight, the blame falls squarely on you.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
/remembers prior to 2008, when Vizquel was hurt, and there was talk of starting the season with Velez as our shortstop
/shudders
/remembers we ended up with Bocock, then Burriss
/shudders even more
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
And we all knew what awesome knee-jerk free agent signing that led to.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
…in hindsight, Velez might actually have been the best option. That’s really scary.
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Maybe Torres is slumping because he’s always been a leadoff hitter, and now he’s batting seventh every time. I seriously don’t understand why, if you’re going to play him, he isn’t batting leadoff, where he belongs. Instead, good old Boch kept going with Rowand and Velez there, both players who would be better in the seventh spot in the order. And he should never, ever be in the same lineup as Velez!
Chris Gloor: my lefty is bigger than your lefty
by crazedcrustacean on Apr 20, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah why is he batting 7th?
He should be either batting 1st or 8th IMO.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Don't bring your calming attitude here, Grant
I don’t want Torres released, I just want Bowker back in the lineup, and in Bochy’s mind that would be putting Torres on the Bench. He is not gonna sit Velez and his “hot bat”, so Velez would be shifted to CF (God help us).
I just have the terrible fear that Bowker is the new FLew in Bochy’s head and we will never see him outside of PH attempts that will be used as judgements on whether he is ready to regain a starting role.
First it was the “not a platoon, he just won’t start against lefties” now its the “Well Nate has a better reputation”, soon it will be the “Nate and the other guys are really mixing well in the outfield together” and “their bats will come alive, they just need more time” that is going to relegate Bowker to dug out seed sweeper.
I has a sad.
/photoshop of Bowker on the side of a milkcarton.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I just have the terrible fear that Bowker is the new FLew in Bochy’s head
He may have helped himself avoid that by not whining in to the press today that he’s unhappy as a role player. FLew was unhappy with his role on the team and complained (as did Franny), if Bowker good-soldiers on, he SHOULD stay out of the doghouse.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
Adorable, deadly cat is adorable, deadly.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Is this cat trying to conceal its identity or is it trying to not be seen? Because I’m pretty sure the massive sticks of dynamite strapped to its back would give away its presence pretty quick.
Or in this case, toilet paper tubes painted red with a doorbell attached.
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
According to SF Gate commenters, this cat is an Oakland resident.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
This.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
#1 in team turning-doubles-into-triples!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that was the fault of starting at all
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Would have happened to any LF off SF bench
since none of those dudes start everyday also
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
So in order to field baseballs properly, a player has to start every day?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Somehow, I don’t recall hearing him use this argument in defense of Fred Lewis.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.

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This was my favorite episode of CSI Miami.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
No. Eugenio Velez ran his face into the wall on a routine line drive into the corner. Nobody else would have done that.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s an entertaining comment, but Rowand actually never did this on a routine play.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
ANY LF WULD DOO THAT
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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I SEE NO WALL-FACE THERE!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Apr 20, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Slow loading gif is slow loading.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
lmao
I can’t stop laughing at the reactions
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dude that thing is 25 MB!
Y u do dat?
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And no subject line….
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
nobody else would have run that fast
an experienced OF would have conceded early but Velez like any Gamer overhustled
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Also he got bored and started playing soccer for a bit.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
LOL
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Then ran across the Bay Bridge , broke through toll barrier and ran into the centerfield wall at the Colesium only to watch the ball hit off the LF foul pole.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Apr 20, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Ugh,
CRAWFORD BOXES.
There is ample evidence that Velez should not be playing baseball.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Sorry
anyone who defends velez is a moron. End of story. He is terrible at playing baseball.
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Apr 20, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Correction
He is terrible at playing baseball
less than expert
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
crappy
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
no
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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I disagree. Michael Jordan is fucking awful and horrifically bad at playing baseball. Eugene is just either incredibly confused, or the first Latin ballplayer to claim he’s OLDER than his actual age.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
that's happened before, actually
Players have lied so they could sign before their 16th birthday.
I want to say this supposedly happened with Adrian Beltre, but I might be thinking of the wrong guy.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Context context context
Velez IS horrifically bad as a major league player. He does not belong on an MLB team.
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Thanks to roger
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You’re right, he just needs seasoning! PAPRIKA PLZ!!!!
…oh, wait. He’s almost 28 and made his US pro debut in 2003. Boy, that sure is a lot of cumin he needs.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
POW!!!
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
If I knew photoshop at all I’d have a pic of Emeril sprinkling cumin on Eugenio Velez. Although that may already be a 2010 promotion at that Magic Inside place I keep hearing about.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do I keep misreading the word cumin?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
As what?
Oh, wait, I have an idea.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Let’s just say that Geordi never got the chance to do it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Because you’re five.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Point.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah in Bay Area Sports Guys comment
I initially missed the word “sprinkling”. That severely changes the context.
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Tuesday vs. the Nationals: Eugenio Velez Spice Rack Day!!!
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Would have gone with…available to 1st 30,000 fans who bring a fully prepared meal for bengie molina
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by say hey nation on Apr 20, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He is tarragon at playing baseball!
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He has thyme to improve
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a marjoram leaguer.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as an OF
played his first OF in 2007 and minor league parks aren’t as tricky as the oddly configured modern MLB parks
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Darn that tricky Petco leftfield wall!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So his defense as a corner outfielder is suspect now because he spent his early minor league years playing much more difficult positions?
Okay.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
knowing or not knowing
how stadium lights, seating, physical features will affect proper approach to a ball varies from park to park
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
You’re really stretching it. If park differences made that much of a difference, then every player would look like a fool every time the team went on the road.
Honestly, I think you’re just screwing with jcb9 at this point.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
And by “that much of a difference” I of course mean “the difference between fielding a routine play poorly and actually planting your face firmly into the wall.”
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
it makes difference less than 5% of the time
but knowing in advance that the ball is headed for a brick wall or a pad or wood affects the approach
knowing that turning a certain way will bring your line of sight directly into sunshine or stadium lights or white shirt glare affects approach
knowing that the incline of the field slopes into CF or away from CF affects approach
but most flies are routine and caught in the air or fielded cleanly in thanks to accurate prepositioning
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Unless you’re Eric Byrnes, and you’re playing in your home ballpark.
/Safeco Field
This is not a signature.
WHY CAN’T WE TRADE FRANZEN FOR BURNS??? HE GREW UP A GIANTZ FAN!
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
but knowing in advance that the ball is headed for a brick wall or a pad or wood affects the approach
It really is too bad that there is absolutely no way to know something like this without running facefirst into the wall first.
knowing that turning a certain way will bring your line of sight directly into sunshine or stadium lights or white shirt glare affects approach
It really is too bad also that there’s no way of knowing where the sun will be during any given inning. And those damn stadium lights always moving around where you least expect them.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Stop being so irrational
The sun could have made a miraculous appearance in last night’s game. How could Eugenio know either way?!?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
by the way
After yesterday, Velez is within 2 strike outs of failing your favorite stat (5 K, 7 H).
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
And by the way, Nate Schierholtz never played OF until 2005 – 2 years before Velez started.
So, if Velez is as good defensively next year as Schierholtz was in 2009, I’ll happily send you an apology via kissogram.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Tonights infield
1B-Bowker
2B-Velez
SS-Molina
3B-Nate
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Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
still 71 PA short of reasonable sample
for a bench player
For a starter 171 short
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Uh, you cited this “stat” against John Bowker the other day. He has like 30 PA.
also, 71 and 171 are pretty hilariously random standards.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Oh, wait, 71/171 short of a reasonable sample size. I see.
Still arbitrary, of course.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
100 PA = roughly 50 games played
200 PA = roughly 40 starts
If you have more K than H by that time, you are not a “competent batter”. That is not to say you aren’t a “dangerous hitter”. If you have lineup stacked with competent batters, you can carry a dangersous hitter with no worries.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Yeah, this is all totally arbitrary.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
That’s why I choose to dance.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
/breathes argon instead of oxygen
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Ooo, good choice. Although, I would have gone with xenon.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Xenon Hexaflouride FTW!
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Choose Aggron
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Adam Dunn has never had more hits than K’s.
If you have a team full of 8 Adam Dunns, you are going to score a metric crapton and he’s merely a “dangerous hitter”
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but
your defense would be epic to watch.
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Yes it would.
On the plus side, like 320 HR for the year.
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fail
This isn’t to discuss an actual team of Adam Dunns, with his defense intact.
You’ve termed someone like him less desirable than a “competent hitter”. clearly he’s more than that.
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Dunn is not a competent BATTER
But he is a dangerous HITTER.
A dangerous hitter is a guy who is at high risk for a long hit if he gets a HIT. A competent batter puts the ball in fair play to avoid a K. He doesn’t need to get a hit out of it.
If one is a dangerous there’s always a spot open for you 5-6-7 in the batting order (preferrably 7), but only that one spot for one guy.
I think I made a post last year in favor of Bowker to that effect. 30-5 bombs with 150-75 K and only 125-30 H is just fine for the 7th spot.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
I like this style
Let me try:
Bengie Molina is a good BALL RECEIVER.
Eli Whiteside is a fine CATCHER.
A good ball receiver is someone who catches lefties well. But only lefties. He doesn’t need to catch righties. A good CATCHER is someone who catches side-arms well.
If the team has a RHP on the mound who isn’t a side-arm, they should concede. If the team has a side-arm LHP on the mound, they should use both the catcher and the receiver at the same time. Preferably with one sitting on top of the other. Obviously the Giants would prefer Whitesode on top of Molina and not the other way around.
The Giants should keep Molina after this year because Posey appears to be a catcher. You don’t want to end up with two catchers and no receivers. I made a post about this last year.
Wow, that was fun! Freeing myself of that nagging need to base my assertions on logic or facts has sure made arguing easier. All I needed was to make a couple of CONFIDENT STATEMENTS and I could have argued just about anything!
I was promised lasagna.
I’m glad you enjoy sounding ridiculous.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The 6
Means that you’ve conceded that he’s a good hitter. End of discussion.
I was promised lasagna.
Good hitter is yet a different concept
If you hit .270-90, you are a good hitter, whether dangerous or not. Adam Dunn hits around .260 in his better years, which is not bad.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
According to this, his career OBP is .384 (is that possible?).
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep!
It’s not like walking Hanley Ramirez. Once the HR go flying it’s just a matter of avoiding the away slider to draw a BB. The defense would rather take their chances with the bottom of the order since Dunn runs slo-mo. The Reds had a LOT of power there compared to other teams, so Dunn scored a ton of runs.
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Yes, Dunn takes a lot of walks because he’s slow and teams don’t care if he’s on base. That’s not even a little ridiculous.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
that was a joke explanation
for why Borky won’t start Bowker
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
Sorry
It can be difficult to follow your rationalization gymnastics.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
less than 5%!
jcb9’s ass!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
might be more
but OFs do tend to cleanly field the play over 95% of the time
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
lol
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
So is it harder to play in Yankee stadium b/c they have padded seats?
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Apr 20, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
you would think padded seats would make it softer not harder
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having odd angles almost protruding into field
affects approach, a guy who forgets about until he’s about to run into it will probably misplay it (old Yanky Stad, that is)
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
FYI, Old and New Yankee stadium have the same dimensions
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by say hey nation on Apr 20, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey guys, did you know Wrigley Field’s wall isn’t padded? It’s covered with Ivy, but it still hurts when you run into it. I just found this out…
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
A guy who forgets what the wall looks like right after taking the field probably shouldn’t be playing baseball.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
You know, it’s not exactly rocket science to know that a sharply hit ball is going to bounce off of the wall. And yet Velez didn’t realize this.
Seriously, that’s all I’m saying. This has nothing to do with dimension. Velez ran into the wall as the ball was bouncing away from him.
That’s terrible regardless of condition.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, well we can't all be rocket surgeons, ok?
:D
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
C’mon! It’s not like its brain science!
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Read that as "Brain sauce"
mmm, brain sauce.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
But would that be sauce you put on brains, or sauce made out of brains?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Any sauce traditionally served with brains.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
As previously stated, he overhustled
Velez took a look at Blanks, figured hombre grande = largo and that he could hold him to a 1b if he got to the ball quickly
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
overhustled = bad route
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Oh so we agree then. I thought you were trying to say he played it right but was just too fast (or something like that).
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
The midnight sun got in his eyes as he was over-hustling when he forgot what the wall looked like.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
So his heart was in the right place but he sucks at defense?
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Seriously not buying it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
SUMMARY
We had 7 mediocre Deckchairs. 2 got hurt and was was traded for a PTBNL. We now have 4 (healthy) Deckchairs, and they happen to be the slightly less good 4 out of the 7.
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Yep that sums is up nicely.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Which is why I’m not really upset about this whole deal.
All of our options are mediocre to begin with.
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Sounds about right... it's all pretty much MEH
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well maybe you should be upset that all our options were so mediocre to begin with!
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
walk the dinosaur
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
We have 4 healthy deckchairs. Except one of the deckchairs is a civil war era antique. The antique was just freshly painted and Bochy has placed a WELCOME! PLEASE SIT DOWN! sign on it.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey, Neal, Wheeler, Joseph, and Belt is a good start!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
all those guys plus Bumgarner for WIllingham
GIT ERR DUINNN
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
I CAN INJECT THE CORE AND DETONATE IT… THE BLAST MAYBE ENOUGH TO PUSH US OUT BUT I CANNOT PROMISE ANYTHING
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I get this.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I love Willingham
And he was near the top of my list of people I wanted the Giants to trade for last season.
BUT. He doesn’t really make sense anymore. He’s better than DeRosa, sure, but probably not by enough to make him worth what we’d lose.
And you can’t really shift DeRo into the infield either at this point, esp when Freddy gets back off the DL.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Freddy off DL
We’ll worry about that in 2011
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For a while, it kept being said that he should be ready by the beginning of May.
I haven’t heard that, or any other date, mentioned in a long time, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
esp when Freddy gets back off the DL.
lulz
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Soooo Freddy's never coming back? i haz a sad
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
There was talk about him being back in May, but now there is no mention on his progress. Has been real quiet for a while.
I am assuming total damaged goods and we may never see him again.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Well, i’ve gotten to the point where i just don’t care anymore, fuck em, Uribe is doing pretty damn well, plus has got power
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Noah Lowry COULD be ready to compete with Jonathan Sanchez for the fifth starter spot in 2009 spring training!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
First I was like: LULZ THAT’S FUNNY
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Then I was like: /cries
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
He’s better than DeRosa, sure, but probably not by enough to make him worth what we’d lose.
Presumably, DeRosa would just shift to RF (if healthy).
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Fair enough
But I think MCC would freak out if we gave up prospects for a guy who would block Bowker/Scheirholtz
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
what if we give Bowker / Schierholtz + prospect?
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Hm.
I could get in to that.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Also
Willingham and DeRosa are the only two MLB players who’re in my frat. Uniting them could very well result in outfield keg parties.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Convince Sabean and Baer that Josh Willingham is a code phrase for “cash considerations.”
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean has acquiring Willingham at the very end of his 5-year plan. That’s his M.O. on outfielders who produce, wait until they’re 34-37. I still think they’re playing the waiting game with Jermaine Dye, no matter what @hankschulman says.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If this was Baseball Mogul
/offers marginal prospect
/gets denied
/offers another marginal prospect
/gets denied
/offers 8 more marginal prospects
/makes trade
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Since I went to the trouble of doing the arithmetic, I’m going to keep posting this: Torres’s AAA numbers from 2004-09 — six seasons, a big sample — add up to around .285/.365/.440.
Now, by any MLE system you care to use, that’s not great. Maybe .250/.320/.390, conservatively? But if you take a look at the big-league stats for players like Michael Bourn and Coco Crisp and Willy Taveras and Carlos Gomez, you realize that Torres wouldn’t be the worst everyday centerfielder in the league. Which almost by definition makes him a good backup.
The problem with MLE's
Or one of them, at least, is that it doesn’t take into consideration how much time a player has spent at that level. Hitting .285/.365/.440 at a level over 6 years is not as impressive as doing it at your first try.
I was promised lasagna.
Well, talking about it the way you are is talking more about a guy as a prospect – tearing up A ball in your third season there, for instance. When we’re talking about AAA it’s a bit different, though – it’s really not that far off from MLB. Tearing up AAA is tearing up AAA, and it means the guy is probably a good bet to give you something at the MLB level right now.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
But MLE's are based on pospects
The formula for AAA MLE’s is based on the numbers from players who moved from AAA to MLB. Most, or at least many, of those players were young or youngish prospects who were only a year or two in AAA. Comparing their numbers to Torres’s – which is what you’re doing when you’re using MLE’s – is problematic.
I was promised lasagna.
How, exactly, is it calculated? I don’t know the details, but I suspect it doesn’t tell us what a guy is expected to do as he gets better, but what his skill level is at right now. From that perspective, age doesn’t matter – age matters in how we’ll expect them to improve going forward, which is why age is important for prospect status, but in terms of AAA MLE’s…..well, we’re interested in how good Torres is right now.
by Missing Barry on Apr 21, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Latos: “Nick, how should I get these guys out?”
Hundley: “LOL GIANTS!”
Latos: “Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny as well”

WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Peter Lorre
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I just don’t see it. Perhaps if his eyes were bugging out.
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Peter Lorre was the original Steve Buscemi.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I spent some time defending my position of Velez > Torres during yesterday's pre-game.
In truth, I hate them both equally. I guess when forced to choose, I still go with Velez because he occasionally runs into a ball with either his bat or his face, and each of these outcomes is pleasing on the whole. Torres is just a warm body. He represents nothing but wasted time.
But if you take a look at the big-league stats for players like Michael Bourn and Coco Crisp and Willy Taveras and Carlos Gomez, you realize that Torres wouldn’t be the worst everyday centerfielder in the league. Which almost by definition makes him a good backup.
The difference between Torres and those guys is that Torres out ages them by about five years or so (save for Crisp, who has at the very least been productive at some point in his career). My other problem with Torres is that he appears to have a fairly low baseball IQ. Not Velez low, but pretty darn low for a guy who has been playing the game this long.
This is like arguing about brussel sprouts vs liver, so I’m going to stop here.
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Torres is just a warm body. He represents nothing but wasted time.
yeah, but that’s not true. He’s a really good defender, and he’s better at defending that velez is at hitting. I don’t see how this is difficult to understand.
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Thanks to roger
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How low is our standard for Torres’ hitting woes?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
lol 18 ABs
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I don’t think Torres being a terrible hitter is a matter of sample size.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
As Evan pointed out, the MLEs for his last few years aren’t great but are perfectly serviceable for a 4th OF.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Key word being 4th. As it stands right now he is probably our starting CF.
HOW DID WE GET HERE?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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Our starting CF got injured.
I imagine most teams don’t have an All-Star level player to use as a replacement if the starter gets injured.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Particularly not if they trade away the serviceable replacement for a bag of pistachios.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I don’t put much faith in MLEs.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Then what are you basing this off of?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That he appears to be a horrible hitter. I’m doing one of those trusting my eyes thingies. An unpopular decision, I know.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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At least you’re being honest about it.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Torres is a horrible hitter because of a new, super-advanced proprietary offensive metric. I can’t tell you about it except to say that it gives a lot of weight to how hard hitters swing at breaking balls on alternate Tuesdays during road games.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I don’t think anybody thinks Torres is a good hitter, but there’s at least a case to be made that he’s a fairly comparable hitter, against LHP, to Bowker….and since he plays better D….well, he might just be our best option right now. He’s also good enough to be a real MLB player, if only because of his defense. Let’s also think about the whole “18 AB’s” thing….
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The reason why people are quick to dismiss Andres Torres is he’s the MLB equivalent of an NBA D-Leaguer. The problem is he’s playing more like Cartier Martin right now than Reggie Williams. I am positive Sabean wishes there were 10-day contracts in baseball.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
except your average D-Leaguer is 23-25, not 32.
by Into the Void on Apr 20, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Even when Torres hit that long home run last year, I kinda got the feeling that he just swung as hard as he possibly could and the gods smiled and hey-presto it’s a homer. Just one of those things.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
18 ABs means...
…one 3-for-4 day more than doubles his AVG from .111 to .227. Not that .227 is a good average, but it just points out how small the sample is.
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I think my contention is that even if you gave Torres 6,000 ABs he’d still be a terrible hitter.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yeah, but you’re basing it off 18 AB’s. Funny things happen in small samples.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Willie Mays, 1951: 1-21 start.
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Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I think it’s totally defensible to compare Andres Torres to Willie Mays.
Thing is… Torres has never been a particularly good hitter. His career OPS in the minor leagues is around .760. He doesn’t look good at the moment. There is little to suggest that he has much to offer other than happy feet. I’M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Is anyone claiming Torres is a good hitter, though…? There’s a much bigger difference between “good” and “good enough to be a real MLB player when your defense is good”. It’s almost a certainty that he played well over his head last year….but still, he was pretty darn good – to the point where someone who doesn’t even belong in the league at all probably isn’t even capable of doing with all the luck in the world.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the argument boils down vying the complete disaster of Velez in the field (versatility!) against the complete disaster of Andres Torres at the plate. I’ve ruled in favor of Velez. bondslegend has rightly concluded that this makes me a bad person. And so be it!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The problem is, Velez is a complete disaster at the plate, too. His career .312 wOBA is worse than Torres projected line of .315-.318 (which makes Torres well below average offensively). Velez’s projection for this year is a .308-.309 wOBA. That’s a disaster.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll lay even money on Torres possessing a line far worse than Velez at season’s end.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well, Velez does have a head start at this point, but going forward, it seems all the evidence suggests they’ll probably perform at pretty similar levels offensively. Given Torres defense, and the fact that you can take advantage of Torres platoon split…..I think it’s pretty easy to see who the better option is.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd take that bet.
But then, my opinion of Velez is not unlike yours of Torres: based on what I’ve seen of his play, I’m convinced that he is not, and never will be, a competent baseball player.
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Maybe a better question on my end would be – what kind of line do you expect out of each of them, and why? I’m going with the projections, because….well, they do a lot better job of processing all the information we have than I do.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But no one’s saying he’s a good hitter – they’re saying he’s serviceable as a 4th OF.
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I actually think that we should really just accept that Alex Lewis has said that he thinks Torres is extremely bad with the bat for no other reason than that his eyes tell him so, particularly since he acknowledged there are other viable ways to evaluate the player.
For once, somebody is 1) being honest that he’s making an evaluation with his eyes, and 2) not disparaging the STATNERDS for not using their eyes. To me, that’s damn refreshing.
I say we let this one go!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
NO I WANT TO PERSECUTE HIM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I agree.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you need to pay 2 black 2 colorless first though
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LULZ
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
To be fair, he may be basing it off of what he saw, with his eyes, last season, as well.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
Velez has hit into two double plays in the course of his 19 ABs. What the shit. My conclusion is thereby carved into marble, to be admired by all of history. In your face, nerbs.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Goddamnit
I mean Torres. Could someone clean up that marble?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And goddammit. White-out works on marble, right?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I would totally go to that museum.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me tell you about Amici's east coast pizzaria
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PERHAPS YOU WOULD PREFER BONDSLEGEND AND PIKA TO DISCUSS THE UPCOMING NFL DRAFT AS IT PERTAINS THE THE 49ERS OF SAN FRANCISCO?
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"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
FALSE!!!!
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
TRUE
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I like sweet pickles the best.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I like sweet relish, but for pickles I prefer dill.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Heathen.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Also delicious.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I also like ketchup and tomatoes.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
but do you like ketchup on your tomatoes?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I certainly don’t see why I wouldn’t.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a friend who does this
I deem it an abomination.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Why?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m not sure. It’s kind of like religion, I guess.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Kind of like cannibalism.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny, I dont go around on this site and denounce your religion, so I would appreciate it if you showed me the same respect.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 20, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ketchup is to tomatoes as McNuggets are to chicken.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
McNuggets are far more delicious than ketchup.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This
ketchup ruins McNuggets
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
McNuggets are the best thing at McDonalds
low standard, I know
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I’ll eat the fruit/walnut salad. Maybe a chipotle crispy snack wrap if I’m starving. The rest is crap.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
McNuggets all the way for me
I’ve never eaten a Big Mac.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Only if what you are after is actual food…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
=)
Mmmm
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate when I am food!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate tomatoes.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Football doesn’t exist until after the WS.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
meh
I stop watching baseball when the Giants stop playing
ANGRY WORDS
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I can’t get hoppin mad if they cut Torres. I’m pretty sure we saw the best year of Andre’s career last year. I’ll be surprised if he lasts all of 2010 with the Giants.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I think he'll last this year
just because the Giants don’t have another ML ready CF. I think the Velez as a CF experiment while end up like the Velez as a 2B experiment. And McBryde isn’t ready, so who would we call up? Clay Timpner?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Tim Lincecum is awesome
…so we got that going for us.
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 1:56 PM PDT reply actions
And yet Bochy fixed it so Tim only pitches ONCE on road trip vs NL West
2 starts on homestand = 2x $$$
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
That’s ridiculous. It’s like saying all the Giants’ promotions are limited to the first 20k fans so everyone enters the park when the gates open and they have more time to buy shit.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He should just pitch every day.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no reason to coddle Tim Lincecum. After all, Sandy Koufax regularly threw hundreds of pitches an outing.
/Bruce Jenkins logic
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Can you weave in a Maverick’s reference, or perhaps a tidbit about Bjorn Borg?
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I had Chicken Chow Mein for lunch today. It was pretty good but the egg roll was lacking.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
I made fried rice.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Don’t do that, man.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
YOU EAT YOUR MEDIOCRE EGG ROLL
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Consume the egg roll they provided to you!
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I don’t see what that has to do with baseball……
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Andres Torres looks like he’s swinging with jhiat00’s eggroll.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Did she say that?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
She may have.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
For the record my eggroll has never been touched by Andres Torres.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
He would just ground your eggroll to short anyway
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And almost beat out the throw, but not quite
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Bockwurst with mustard sauce over mashed potatoes from the Sentinel.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sentinel is so awesome, but I can’t make myself order anything there besides their corned beef/cabbage/russian dressing pseudo-reuben.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still in an experimental phase. Also, I’ve been making my own corned beef (this weekend I’m trying pastrami!), so I’m a bit maxed out on it…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I had the bbq pork sandwich there one time and while it was good, it wasn’t as good as the corned beef.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
DON’T EAT THE BBQ BORK SANDWICH
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
*AHEM* We are NOT nerds just for being on this site!
/goes back to minesweeper while awaiting your pithy reply…
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Minesweeper
Love and hate that game at the same time. Too bad I have so little ability to pithy – I always feel so out of place here.
Be careful with me. I'm sensitive and I'd like to stay that way.
by cybermaldonado on Apr 20, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It's cool. If you can swing the sarchasm,
you’ll be pithy in no time.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I would like, while DeRosa & Scott are out, Bowker/Torres/Nate. And when DeRosa is back, DeRosa/Bowker/Nate. Velez should not be in this lineup.
That is all.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
Wave them home Tim.
Nate became the new CF about 45 minutes ago.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No one, that’s the beauty of our new system.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
We should have a McCoven lottery to play CF
In CF, batting 5th: Natto!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Nah, that’d be giantsrainman.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Never met the guy...but your sig line had me thinking you'd do ok.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
It’s the facial hair that really sold me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It usually does.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
We could start a campaign
and then find a way to convince 22gigantes it was real, so we could brag about one of our own being a Giant for a day, or something, and we are therefore cooler than him.
Just the thought of his possible reactions is amusing.
Then again, such extreme actions might lead him to think we give a rat’s about what he thinks…
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Small strike zone. That’s something.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Shipping Today: Ponyo
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Lost Season 2 Disc 4
Lost Season 2 Disc 5
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Push the button!!!!
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Got fed up with Lost in the middle of the 4th season.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
I like ridiculous confusing shows
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Cheat Sheet

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Apr 20, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I didn’t find it confusing. It just seemed like the show got dumb.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
It did.
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Lost isn’t confusing.
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooooooo. Still need to see that.
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL MLB. Lee suspension was over turned b/c his “injuries caused an errant pitch”
I call bullshit.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
Well... my roommate will not be happy about the VOlques thing
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
STOP COMPARING BOWKER TO BONDS!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Yeah, did you see all those walks Bonds has?
He clearly cheats the game WAY more than Bowker…
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Awwww. no fun.
/looks for other ways to bait people into angry responses over obvious sarcasm
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
All Velez needs is for us to believe in him.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
While Rowand is out and DeRosa gets fully healthy,
and knowing that Sabean thinks a guy with a .913 OPS against lefties can’t help this team, would it have been too much to ask that we get a chance to see what a Bowker/Ford/Schierholtz outfield could do over a 75 plate-appearance sample size?
Responsible for the last great homegrown Giants team.
You bet it would be.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I used your marinade the other night.
It was awesome, but I had rosemary burps for quite some time after.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
TWSS
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Whose semen tastes like rosemary?
Naturally, I used this opportunity to google semen. Low and behold, the number one Google match for semen is ‘semen-based recipes’. So there’s a cookbook. I’ll stop now.
Sorry.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The post-Spring Training fascination for Ford really is incredible. The guy is a bad hitter at the lower levels of the minors. He should not be anywhere near the major league roster right now, except possibly as a 25th man. He still needs to work on a few things.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
But SPEED!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
If you’re referencing Jermaine Dye with the .913 ops, you just stop that right now.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Apr 20, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
My anger is not so much at Torres. I agree he should be a spot starter. However he’s being treated as part of a platoon which is fucking ridiculous.
pretty much, and it's just getting to that point of being like, what the hell, why is he in the starting line up]
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Spawn of Satan lineup
J. Hairston 9
Eckstein 4
Gonzalez 3
Headley 5
Blanks 7
S. Hairston 8
Torrealba 2
Cabrera 6
Latos 1.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
2 Hairstons?
Lord help us.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 20, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a failbeard bonanza!
/inspired by hair
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Lewis starting and leading off again for the Blue Jays. It’s like they think he is some kind of baseball player or something.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
Yay for Fred, at least.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
This. I kinda wish he would have batted leadoff for us though. Didnt he say he didnt want to? Maybe he would still be on this team. Maybe even starting.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
As far as I remember, Bochy once said that Fred was “uncomfortable” with leading off.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
I wonder if the Blue Jays are just ignoring that fact.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He told Bochy that he didn’t feel comfortable leading off. He never said he didn’t want to.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it seems that was enough for Bochy.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a good soldier.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And feeling uncomfortable and NOT WANTING TO are two different things
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Well, yes. I feel uncomfortable masturbating with my left hand – for example. That doesn’t mean that I don’t want to.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
George Carlin has always spoke highly of the off-hand masturbation.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I think you have to sit on your hand until it falls asleep for the stranger.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
I feel uncomfortable watching howie masturbating with his left hand. But I sure as hell want to!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
It’s an adventure, that’s for sure.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny how that diverged into two different masturbation jokes.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Fred was actually telling Boch that he felt uncomfortable “beating off” in front of him. Six of one, half-dozen…
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That whole thing was a load of bullshit where people interpretted off the cuff comments into way more than they were.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically, it was a non-story that some people decided to take and run with.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
People love to find reasons why Fred Lewis sucks.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Enjoy your free Fred Lewis, Blue Jays.
Everyone except the SF Bay Area Oakley rep, who’s been despondent since last week.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
“Fred, will you stop tearfully embracing Jeremy Accardo? We know you guys got screwed, but you’re up first, damnit!!!”
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Merkin Valdez is also on the Blue Jays currently.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
But what about the language barrier?
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
he's learning to speak Canadian
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
But…..but…..but……Fred Lewis can’t bat leadoff! He said so himself! He hates leadoff, refuses to do it even!
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he just refused to do it for US dollars?
Or now that he is listening to Rush in the clubhouse, he is more willing to change his opinion!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
the more i stare at that rat the more it looks like a person...damn.
guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy
NIGHTMARE FUEL
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Velez CF
Renteria SS
Sandoval 3B
Huff 1B
Uribe 2B
Bowker LF
Schierholtz RF
Whiteside C
Sanchez P
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions
They fight better together!
Bowker: Nate, touch my boob!
/honk
ADVENTURE!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Need to watch this. Was only able to find a couple eps online so far. Does it matter if I watch in order?
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve only seen the original pilot. Sadly, I haven’t had a chance to watch the series yet.
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Oh lord, I made the mistake of letting my kids watch this (they hyped it during Pokemon, so the kids thought it looked good). Funny for me, inappropriate for them.
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What is it?
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Adventure Time with Finn and Jake
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http://www.youtube.com/show/adventuretime?pl=32D1B12323BF801A
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I'm gonna assume it's not all kiddy fun time?
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It’s like Ren & Stimpy weird but more cute than grotesque.
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cool
I always hated that show because it was so gross
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MY FAVORITE SHOW GROWING UP... have no idea why my parents let me watch it
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“Adventure Time” on the Cartoon Network. You can watch an epi here.
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"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what this comment means, but I want to rec it.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
MOTHER FUCKER
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh.
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At least Bowker and Schierholtz are there.
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CF FAIL
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
Torres is not a better option honestly. As much as we hate Rowand, we’re really pretty fucked when he’s not available.
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I was hoping for Nate in CF actually, not Torres.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
HOW DARE YOU
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Ohhhh, so one little no-hitter and now Sanchy No. 1 has his own personal catcher. I see how it is. This makes angry Bengie angry.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate’s there.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Um I’m pretty sure he has never played center field in the last 5 years, now is not the time to do that to a player struggling to find confidence.
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IAWTC
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY DON’T YOU JUST STICK DOWNS IN CENTER, THEN?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LINCECUM 4 CLEANUP HITTUR
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey CF
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
STICK HIM AT 3B
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Sad thing is, Schierholtz is about 2 bad hitting months away from pulling a reverse Rick Ankiel.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay for Velez, my favorite player of them all!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Sanchez + Whiteside
I feel good about our chances tonite.
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Impossible for a Not-Molina catcher to instill confidence in any pitcher, anywhere.
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait...
Velez in CF? That’s pretty LOL.
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like we’ll be seeing a few failed bunts today.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing about Velez is he is bipolar. He is awesome at times and horrible at more times, which is usually how bipolar people act. Now Bochy might be onto something by sticking him in CF. That is sorta balanced, right?
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I DON’T CARE
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
QUICK! HIDE YOUR PUPPIES FROM LARS!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He intends to beat them to death with a flaming bag of kittens!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as there's no "UNF UNF UNF" involved,
fine with me.
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Yeah, so this doesn’t look good. Should I bother watching?
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LOL VELEZ!
Clearly his play last night impressed the noggin!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
His hustle on those two consecutive outfield fuckups was really admirable.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
At least it will be funny when Velez goes back to rob a homerun on a pop out to shortstop.
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Minus the whole Velez thing, and Rent still hitting 2nd, I am ok with this lineup.
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Borderline acceptable lineup is borderline acceptable
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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NFL SCHEDULE!
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Meh.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
we have the easiest… OPEN ON MONDAY NIGHT
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WOW they play a Sunday Night game
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YES!
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Halloween
NINERS PLAY IN LONDON
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hah that's funny
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And before they go to the flex schedule, too. I bet they chose this game back when they thought the Niners might trade for Donovan.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that’s crazy, i know we were bitching about that last year, why the niners never played on Sunday Night, and had a conspiracy about NBC
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I wasn’t that surprised that the Niners were left out of primetime until now; they’ve been a losing team with boring QBs since NBC signed the contract.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
It was annoying, but totally understandable. That MNF game in 07 really hurt them a lot, but then they had the epic one in 08.
This year’s team is the first one that’s going to be exciting to watch.
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Nah
they waited specifically to change it around because of mcnabb.
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Holy shit that schedule is cake
and 2 nationally televised home games?!?! WOOHOOOO!
If they don’t make the playoffs with that schedule it’s time to panic.
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yea, NBC, AND ESPN, 4 Nationally televised games total
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And
the london game will probably be one of the most popular that week, too.
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yessir
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I'm liking this a lot
there are, like, no hard road trips at all. Only thing I don’t like is that 5 of the 6 division games are in the second half. Though that might be a good thing, since those games should be pretty easy.
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Cardinals will win the division.
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This is incorrect
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I think he meant the NL Central.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
No I meant NFC West
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Oh. Then I agree with bondslegend.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
lol matt leinart, no defense, and no more boldin
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Actually I’m a KC fan so there is a lot more to LOL @ but I’m mostly just being inflammatory. I think I have developed a chip on my shoulder because football is more popular than baseball when baseball is clearly the superior sport.
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I love baseball, but at least in the NFL a team from KC has a fair shot at winning.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
this
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A team from Green Bay, Wisconsin can be the best in the NFL.
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LOL fumble in OT
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I don’t know enough to argue the business of baseball vs the business of football. I was speaking only of the sport itself.
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The NFL is by far the superior league
the quality of the game is a subjective thing. But the league is run and structured better and a LOT more fairly.
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Ok
but that means that the teams can be, you know, fair.
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They don't all have to play by different rules
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Fairer for fans and metro regions, not for retired and/or lower-echelon players.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing I don’t like about football is that it seems like it is made for people with no attention spans. A play that lasts 10 seconds, followed by 15 replays at different angles. A bud light commercial, followed by a kickoff, followed by another beer commercial, etc…
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LOL FOOTBALL FANS R DUMB
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Most football fans I know of actually hate most of the stuff you’re talking about.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
“Now it’s time for the first pitch, which means it’s time to reach for an ice cold Budweiser…”
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, the amount of advertising in baseball bugs the shit out of me too. “When it’s time for a change, think speedee oil change.” Ugh!
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And sometimes they can make you angry, like last night’s Kia (or whatever) “Drive of the Game,” which was Pablo’s swinging RBI bunt to third.
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I certainly do
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The chiefs could really help the niners again this year
taking jackson last year pretty much landed crabtree in SF. If they take [not eric berry] at number 5 then there’s a good chance the niners could get him.
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SSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm betting someone will trade up for him if that happens though
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I know, and the Niners have two first round picks! I’ve been hoping for Berry all week long, and in this scenario I keep envisioning, the Raiders draft Taylor Mays as the 2010 DHB.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
god that would be so awesome
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I hope the niners don't trade up
if he’s there at 10, MAYBE use the 13 and 3rd rounder…but IDK
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I’ve been figuring they’d end up with Haden and the best available OL, but now I’m not sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded up, traded down, drafted Clausen, anything.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I have confidence that they will do something not stupid
they’ve really performed well in every draft since 05. 08 was a little weak, but for the most part they’ve done really well
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Just compare their recent drafts to the Rams'
holy shit they’ve been awful.
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And the fact they pulled off an intelligent trade for a need everyone thought they’d overvalue in the draft (a return guy) shows they might be in capable hands even though they got rid of their GM a month ago. Color me optimistic.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
still not totally sold, though. After 2007 I don’t let myself get optimistic.
But the fact remains that their team is by far the most talented in the division, and it’s really not that close.
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These days around here, optimistic carries a different meaning:
I am not predicting that a remote control will damage the sheet rock in my apartment this season.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
but who is playing center field for them?
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LOL ALEX SMITH
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The KC/Toronto game is so quiet
You can hear the vendors
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions
bLOLuejayes
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or jays
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Bruce Bochy has Eli Whiteside working with Sanchez after they teamed together for a fabulous start last week against the Pirates. Whiteside caught the no-hitter, as I’m sure you remember. With an afternoon start tomorrow, Bochy probably was going to rest Bengie Molina in one of these last two games in San Diego. He obviously wants to keep Sanchez and Whiteside together.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
DUDE CATCHES NO HITTERS
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Hits grand slams.
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PUERTO RICANS CAN’T CATCH PUERTO RICANS
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
I’m gonna shut my mouth about catching Puerto Ricans.
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you just need the right bait.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
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Fred Lewis hit a leadoff double
LOL GIANTS
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions
That’s nothing. Eugenio will hit into a leadoff double play tonight. Scott will be insanely jealous.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
GROUND RULE DOUBLE
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
AND HE SCORED OMGWTFBBQ
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That gives him more runs on the year than Andres Torres.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
YEAH BUT SKINNY VROOOM DUDE HAS TWO HOMERUNZ
AND IS CLUTCH
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suck it
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TWSS
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna get in this line. Football talk in April is… tiresome.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Casey Doucheface drives in three runs...
Reds suck.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Reds just tied it up.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
KNOWS THIS!!! and i am stuck watching it, roommate's a huge reds fan
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Wayne?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Campbell?
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Damon.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Bruce!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
what the fuck has been the matter with him, i’ve been waiting and watching him try to develop and he’s just sucked
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
YEA BILLINGSLY!! YOU SUCK!!!!!! maybe i should go tomorrow just say FUCK THE DODGERS, wear some giants gear
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
wut?
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
and pack a strap
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m a believer in Bruce.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He’s had a BABIP of like .200 so far, just chill
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
guess the only reason why i was pissed at him, because he did not produce anything last year...
then got hurt… just no BA
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Velez.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Lowry
ever find a club?
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
6-3 Reds
LOLDODGERS
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 4:59 PM PDT reply actions
Russell Martin withers and implodes
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL KFRED
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
Chad Billingsley is on my Pokemanz and he’s been terrible this year AND I’M LOVING IT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WHO'S BETTER THAN MATT CAIN NOW, BITCH?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I have that same problem in Yahoo pokemonz and I’ll take the L’s
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Broxton has 1 save and I’m pretty pissed off about it.
"We're the kind of team people can identify with," Flannery said. "Our best pitcher weighs 150 pounds. Our shortstop is old. Our best hitter is ... big and our catcher is old and big."
gotta prioritize
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
For our friend Timmy
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/1d1ac3cc62/omg-cat-celebrats-4-20
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Can I have those 15 seconds of my life back, please?
Jaymee Sire is my adopted wife.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 20, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
nationLOLs
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Tyler walker in in the third
LOL
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
OMG!
It’s all the sudden 10-0! Holy shit!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Is Mike Pelfry actually this good?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
You mean perfect? No. But he’s decent.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well
this is 3 starts in a row where he’s totally mowing people down
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Don Robinson
Rod Beck
Bengie Molina
Tyler Walker
Pablo Sandoval (tight end)
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
the caveman hit dingerz
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Backups:
Ken Oberkfell
Andres Gallaraga
Glenallen Hill
Wilson Alvarez
2007 Bonds
2009 Renteria
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Some guy called FP Santangelo’s show the other night, and repeatedly referred to Rowand as “Scott Rolen.” It was hilarious on several levels.
Bonds?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I heard this too, I was pretty sure it was someone from this site messing with him.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Tyler Walker in for the Nationals… in the 3rd inning.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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HEY
does it not count when I post it?!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I usually just ignore your posts.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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jerk
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Don't forget smug asshole, too!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Smug asshole called you a jerk
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Neener neener neeeeeeeeeener
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope. I’ll bet you wish you were a mod so bad you could taste it.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
TWSS
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
meh
not really. They’re a bunch of smug assholes.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Howie’s asshole is pretty smug.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that as snug, and then added a TWHS.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
It is very smug about being snug. Totally offputting!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He's getting destoryed too
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
destroyed even
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
That’s de story!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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OH MY GOT THEY'RE TAKING HIS STORY
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
He makes the trains run on time.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Bringer of the good aspects of the annual floods!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
He makes the phones ring
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
1-877-KARS-4-KIDS
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
/Walrusman joke
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
You could eat 12 whole watermelons…
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Worst part: it worked. That fucking song is in my head now.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to need some Three Chord Monte to wash it out…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
watching ESPN doc about 1st Rotisserie league
1st chick member chose dudes based on booty-shape
The money lies in the RBIs
-- Jeff Kent
That’s kinda how I chose my league this year – based on funny hair and names that are fun to say.
What? That’s not how you’re supposed to do it?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Just like Sabean!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
no, sabes looks at the package
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
At the end of the day, Sabes has to kick a few packages to do his due dilligence.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
‘Say, is that a tire in your pocket?’
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabes fondles the package
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Got to start workin out mah butt
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Tiny Eli is tiny.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
TWSS
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
i can't find a working image of the bigger one....
by russian.tank on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Twelve Writers Scooped Shulman
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
lulz
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
OT: Avatar the Last Airbender Cartoon
Why did I not watch this show when it was on?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
That show rules. I need to finish it though, I’ve been halfway through season 2 forever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I have been following it on Nick Toons, but jumped in during season 2. First episode of season 3 right now.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Also, Aang with hair looks strange.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
omg spoilers
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
HAR HAR
yes, I just ruined the series for you.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Also
When you catch up to the first episode of the 3rd season, remind me to tell you about the laughable depressing thing from the end of the episode.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I just started
On chapter four of book one at the moment. The actual animation is alright, but the art design is fantastic.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Yeah, definitely. And I’m always impressed with how much research went into everything.
(Which makes the fail!movie even more fail, but that’s another conversation.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
All they need to do to prepare is get a tan!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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“We picked them because they were the best actors, not for ethnicity! Yes, that’s right, we picked Jackson Fucking Rathbone because he’s a good actor. Pay no attention to the terrible reviews the acting in the movie is getting!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dev Patel is looking pretty badass though.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I’m just going to wait for the movie.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
>:(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s guaranteed to have an awesome twist ending!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
ALIENS!
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Aang also controls the Fifth Element! Which is love. And also pretty hot.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Alien nipples
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Abnormally sexy.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The twist is probably that this is all some guy from Philadelphia has lost his faith in God and he is dreaming it all because he has never broken a bone in his life.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
They’re really just some kids playing in their backyard!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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It’s Narnia 9,000 years from now.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Apr 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
So is Barry Bonds, apparently.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
ROFC,D,ALMAO
(Rolling on the floor choking, drooling and laughing my ass off)
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL DODGERS!!! Billingsly done after 3
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
YES
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Smokin' good news!
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers have 8 stolen bases against the Red Sox tonight
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:26 PM PDT reply actions
I’ve heard that runners are something like 21 for 22 against Jason Varitek this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sign him!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 20, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
If we do that, that means we learn to steal bases better right?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yes
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Papi released
and Martinez is new DH
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Released? Wow. Bet he wishes he had his PEDs now!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
The Niners signed Matt Millen to be their new GM, too.
"Some of it is our fault because we didn't track him as well as maybe we should. We've got to do a better job eyeballing that." -- Brian Sabean
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Apr 20, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
....
What?
(Ortiz is playing)
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
"playing"
2 AB – 2 K
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I never said he's playing baseball.
Him and Manny are playing Battleship on their iPhones.
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#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
WOW the Sox are SUCKING BAD this year
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
And Cameron is out for 4-6 with a sports hernia.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Those are way worse than the dress hernias.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I know – it’s doing wonders for my Pokemonz! (Andrus with 3 so far).
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Yay!
I have Andrus too!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, who has been resurrected and has returned to..(reads)...Fresno? And is also an outfielder now.
#2 in Fanshots
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
9 stolen bases
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 20, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Seeing Tyler Walker reminds me of another ex-Giant anecdote. When Russ Ortiz was getting knocked around on Friday, the Dodger dad in front of me said in a voice loud enough for me to hear, “This guy sucked when he was with the Giants and he’s a bigger chump now.” I replied, “Yeah, that’s why he joined the Dodgers.” He couldn’t think of anything to say after that.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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What a smug, jerk-like thing to say.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
/bans
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oh SNAP
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL DODGERS, 2 RUn HR for Votto
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Oh how i wish the Giants had a first baseman like Joey Votto
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
WONDER IF THEY'D TRADE HIM FOR MATT CAIN LOL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOLDGERS
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 20, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember that time Matt LeCroy allowed like 10 stolen bases and Frank Robinson had to take him out of the game and he was crying or something?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh Victor Martinez no

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I can't believe
Ron Washington stole my cocaine
It's tragic high tide
by TheBigLeBowker on Apr 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB Network
Hey, I finally got the MLB Network a couple weeks ago. I’d been asking my provider, Astound, for a couple years now and it finally showed up (unannounced, go figure). Anyway, I notice that there is a dearth of west coast games. I’d really like to keep closer tabs on the loser Dodgers. What gives? Is it just more EAST COAST BIAS!? It’s not like their sending out a special crew, it’s the home team feed.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
/they’re
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Apr 20, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
/golf clap for the self-edit
But as far as your question, I can offer no insight.
Yeah that is a load of fucking bullshit look at the whole fan base of LA, the vast majority of them are douchebags filled a fucking douchebaggey center.
Newcomb29(EDGE)
by Sabean's_Folly on Apr 20, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want Torres off the team. I do want Bochy to stop treating him like an irreplaceable part of the regular outfield rotation. Pinch runner? Sure. Occasional pinch hitter? Great. Give guys a rest sometimes, preferably against a lefty? Fine. Late inning defensive replacement? Fantastic.
Platoon partner? NO. Magical veteran? NO. Vinny Castilla? Terrifyingly, Bochy seems to think so.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 20, 2010 6:28 PM PDT reply actions
Platoon partner? NO.
Why not? Make the case that there are currently 3 better OF’ers than him against LHP on the Giants that are healthy, right now.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This
It seems like a lot of people sleep on Bowker’s defense, but he has always seemed like a plus defender to me.
John Bowker’s career UZR/150
LF: +34.2
OF: +4
His overall OF isn’t that impressive due to the -17.5 in RF, but in AT&T that is where UZRs go to die, so I can’t really hold it against him. I think he should clearly be starting in front of Velez, and probably DeRosa
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
but in AT&T that is where UZRs go to die
I would actually say the evidence points that the opposite may be true, but if I had to guess, I would imagine all our samples are statistically insignificant at the moment.
by Missing Barry on Apr 20, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions

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