Post-Game Thread: In which we acknowledge that Tim Lincecum is a good pitcher
Four at-bats later: Pablo! We knew you had it in you the whole time. Now he's hitting .360 with power, so we're all cool.
This applies to everyone. Aubrey Huff looks like he's swinging a 12-pound bat...but it's only the first week of the season. Edgar Renteria looks like a Hall-of-Famer...but it's only the first week of the season. Tim Lincecum looks like a shaggy, unkempt dynamo from the VIP lounge in Valhalla..but it's, wait, no, that one's verifiable.
So if there are no answers to be found in the first week of the season, no rock-solid conclusions to draw from anything, the most you can hope for is that the Giants win games. At 5-1, and after beating a very good Braves team, the Giants have done quite well for themselves. It's been quite the week.
And I can't believe they played the game. I didn't give that game any chance of going nine innings.
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1.29 ERA
/knows it’s a sss, giggles anyway
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
that
was a very good win
Mark DeRosa knows that it's hard to sound intelligent with a Jersey accent.
April 2010 >>>>> April 2009.
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
We were 2-4 after 6 games last year, and lost 7 of our first 9.
So, yup.
I am an American aquarium drinker.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 4.4 K/9 in AA. Don't expect to see him in SF any time soon.
I think we lost 7 of our first 9 the last three years, so this is the first year in the Bochy era when we haven’t sucked the first week
Chris Gloor: my lefty is bigger than your lefty
by crazedcrustacean on Apr 11, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
2009: 2-7
2008: 3-6
2007: 2-7
Yikes.
I am an American aquarium drinker.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - 4.4 K/9 in AA. Don't expect to see him in SF any time soon.
Wow. I remember last year’s 2-7 like it was yesterday, but I had totally forgotten how badly we started off in ‘08 and ’07. I think maybe it was because last year’s opening games were just one disaster after another — huge blowouts, no hitting at all, and thinking that Bochy and Sabean’s jobs were in dire danger.
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
Yeah. That was one of those things last year where I’d think “you know, if only they had done better starting off, they would have made the playoffs”.
Therefore: we’re playoff-bound! Science.
(yes, I just put that period outside the quotes. Whatch’a gonna do about it?)
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
That was a fun first road trip.
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I literally googled “How to Tie a Noose” after the LA series.
by Uncle Russel on Apr 11, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll save my excitement for after we go to LA and San Diego and not get crushed. That road trip was hell last season.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Apr 11, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
As the players say “One game at a time”. Although last year, I believe both the Blue Jays and Orioles were 4-1.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Actually so were the Blue Jays last year.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
And they only won 70 more the rest of the season.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
But now they have Merkin
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I think doing well on the road against someone other than ed wade’s aaaa team will be the real test. gotta do better on the road than last year
by commodoregiant on Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey man
Beating up on the bad teams is the way you compensate for losing a few to the good ones
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
This.
I just evaluate what’s happened and then see what happens next. Sweep a bad team away, win a series against a (really) good team at home: both big plusses, pretty much best case scenario.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
PABLO!!!!!!
never doubted you
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by sadison bummedgarner on Apr 11, 2010 7:38 PM PDT reply actions
Any channel I can get the post game on with Comcast? Not interested in watching the Warriors.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
And suddenly his OPS is up to 1.047.
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:-)

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
by 49er16 on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What movie is this from, again?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah yes. Thanks
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo should wear contacts every game
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
He HAS been wearing contacts every game.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Pablo should wear contacts every game he doesn’t wear contacts.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Wearing them last year would have meant having to see Randy Johnson clearly.
by non sequitur on Apr 11, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
/cues Mariner Randy Johnson pic
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
at least
he made contact tonight.
Whoa Nellie!
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
But this was the first game they mentioned it-that I heard anyway
therefore this was the first game.
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I am not sold yet
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
SSS
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Your owner should probably lower the price.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
FUCK YEAH!
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
WOW
The DBacks scored 13 runs in an INNING
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
The who?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm drawing a BLANK at your reference.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Tom Verlaine?
I did watch the game on Television today.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
They won that inning
/Bip’d
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Did we score 13 runs in this series?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Precisely 13.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 11, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oakland
scored 13 in two games. Against The Evil Angels, the Dodgers of the A.L.
My favorite moment was Huff getting all the way to third on the error by that left fielder. If he ran hard the whole way it could have been a four-base error.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
No kidding. He trotted all the way into second, stopped, and THEN decided to go to 3rd.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
This is EXTREMELY nit-picky
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I don’t see the Angels as the Dodgers of the AL.
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No way
I hate the Angels more than anyone. When the Yankees win New Yorkers are happy. When the Angels win people in Orange County are happy. Orange County can fuck itself.
Easy, Brutha
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
meh, i don't have anything against the angels
besides 2002, and that is not enough for me to hate them more then the yankees who along with the dodgers are the root of all baseball evil.
by kezargiants on Apr 11, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a fairly important exception, don't you think?
besides 2002
Also why do blame the Angels for a meteor hitting the earth and destroying the planet until 2003?
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
If he ran hard the whole way it could have been a four-base error.
There was no way he has the slightest chance of scoring on the play.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
That’ll boost their Pythagenport.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Thank you Pablo
For six innings I was sitting there saying “one fucking bad pitch and Timmy is going to lose.” Thanks to the offense for finally waking up.
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
So glad to see Pablo squaring up balls again!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 11, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions
Thank god Heyward is leaving town.
Next: Andrew McCutchen
Adopted father of Eric Surkamp, the next great big-eared soft tossing lefty in SF Giants History!
Is McCutchen that good? He’s a good young kid (and one that Bam-Bam got his hands on), but is he really a threat like Heyward? I don’t think so.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I think so. Different kind of threat. Less Power but better basestealing. He’s supposed to be pretty good in CF as well.
Adopted father of Eric Surkamp, the next great big-eared soft tossing lefty in SF Giants History!
by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll admit, I haven’t seen him play except for in highlight reels. He struck me as a speedster in CF who can hit like .285 with occasional power. But other than the fact that he’ll be around for a while, I’d be more worried about facing, say, Torii Hunter and Matt Kemp. They’re more game changers… especially when Kemp is dropping fly balls. :D
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Matt Kemp is like the high ceiling of McCutchen it seems.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
I don’t think McCutchen will match Kemp’s bat, and McCutchen’s glove is already much better.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I was kinda reaching for a comp.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
He hit three homers in one game last year.
So he may have more power than you think.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Yeah, in a game in like August to double his home run total for the season.
He’s more of a 20/40 guy than a 30/30 guy. 5’11, 175.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I feel obligated to say that it was against the Nationals.
;)
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Not just "pretty good"
I hear from my sources (lol) that he’s one of the best CFs in the league already
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
I watched an awful lot of mccutchen last year and i see a great future for him as an all around threat, think high obp, moderate power, good defense, maybe a 3-4.5 win player depending on fluctuations
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Apr 11, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
No because the Giants will trade for him at the deadline. It will be the first good Sabean trade in years and (fake) people across the interweb will rejoice.
by fantastical on Apr 12, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
3 Way trade
Giants get: McCutchen and Werth
Phillies get: Rowand
Pirates get: NOTHING AND LIKE IT
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Right as Heyward came up last night, I said “I’m really scared of this guy, he’s about the only guy on both teams who can go yard at this point in the game” and right about when I said “yard”, he jacked it.
Yeah. That ‘jinx’ didn’t work.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
it was a good day
A little Ice Cube goes a long way.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
gangsta rap made him do it
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 11, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
At the game I saw the lights of the Good Year blimp,
and it read ’Useful_Idiot’s a pimp’
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Your lucky
It was depressing those first few innings.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
me too I was asleep for the beginning than came out to my dodger fan roommate watching with glee, although the tables did turn!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Apr 11, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Marvin Benard
Proves that steroids make you break the wrong way on fly balls
Dumped Edgar Renteria and adopted Buster Posey. Biggest upgrade since George Jefferson moved up to a deluxe apartment on the east side!
Grant, your knowledge of 90’s gangsta rap is second to none
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions
On the basis of that?
That was not an obscure reference. At all. My girlfriend from Western Iowa knew it right away.
Joke. But glad to know your girlfriend keeps it real.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And me unclever? No never, I’ll have this talent forever
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 11, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo upped his batting line to like .360/.407/.761 today
Idk, I’m concerned.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wait
SLG is .600
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t think a .600 SLG is out of the realm of possibility for him
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I would be too — his SLG dropped 161 points in one minute!
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
I divided by his old AB total instead of the new one!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Keep doing that — he needs all the SLG he can get! Maybe if you re-route the power through the main deflector dish, Pablo can get his SLG over 800!
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Apr 11, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
MAYBE THEN HE CAN BEAT OUT VICTORINO!!!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
Thank god we get to see the Warriors losing to the Thunder by 8
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Now by 3
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
fingers crossed for lotto balls and Evan Turner…
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
But yet they win.
Can’t even tank properly.
It was impossible for awhile — no baserunners.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Shhhhhhhh
Let them have this one. It may never happen again
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
How to combat Roy Halladay on a rainy day:
I will allow a long bomb in the very first inning and then just shut shit down while collecting 10 punchouts.
Win the inning.
Adopted home of Renteria - celebrated World Series hero...of 1997
YAY we are good!
Now lets get Posey back because Molina is sucking shit. 
??
Molina was quite good today. He hit two that had a chance to go out if not for the wind, and a nice single when we needed it.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
One day
Subject line one day is good, but Posey is like our Jason Heyward, I think we all established that.
Sure
But if he needs to improve his receiving skills, Molina isn’t a bad starter.
In fact, I would assert that Bengie Molina is an above-average all-around catcher.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I think he’s pretty much average, but I have no problem with him starting for now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, but I don’t want Posey only playing once a week.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I want him playing everyday.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
exactly.
Adopted father of Eric Surkamp, the next great big-eared soft tossing lefty in SF Giants History!
by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not so sure about that. Of all C’s with 200+ PA’s last year, Molina finished 25th out of 45th in hitting, and everything I’ve seen of him indicates he’s a bit below average defensively….
by Missing Barry on Apr 11, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
This (with horrible running on the bases added to your equation).
The one saving grace here for him is if the Giants reduce his playing time and keep him fresh, which could improve his play.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I’m surprised about how much I don’t hate him now that he isn’t our cleanup hitter.
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I'm in this line
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Oh man, not again
There are roughly 25 better catchers than Molina in the majors. He’s nowhere near average.
I was promised lasagna.
Fangraphs
Has his as the 8th most valuable in 09:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2009&month=0
The thing about most catcher is that most catchers aren’t full time catchers, which diminishes their value.
Just the fact that Bengie plays a full year is pretty valuable.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Right
Just qualifying makes you an above-average catcher, because most catchers don’t last.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Ugh
I’m sick of people who keep saying he’s something he’s not. Just because bochy is so stupid that he plays a CATCHER in his mid 30s 130 games a year does not mean that player is valuable.
He doesn’t do anything on offense except hit maybe 20 HRs a year if you’re lucky, and his defense isn’t good either. Pair that with the fact that he’s the worst baserunner in the league and you’ve got a player who is not good.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Not necessarily.
Some catchers don’t qualify because of questionable managerial decision – Napoli is forced to split time with Mathis because his manager thinks that catcher defense can make up for 250 points of OPS, which I very much doubt; Ianneta will never qualify because the Rockies refuse to accept that he’s a solid hitter.
Others simply have tough competition – Jeff Baker and Ronny Paulino, who both had solid seasons last year, could have gotten enough PA’s if they hadn’t been on the same team.
I was promised lasagna.
But if you adjust the plate appearance requirement, you see that he’s actually bringing back less total value than 15 catchers, 6 of whom are doing it in maybe 70% of the total opportunities.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And, really, it doesn’t make sense to have a PA cap on the qualification for that anyway. If what you’re interested in is CUMULATIVE value, then playing time doesn’t matter. If a guy brings back $10 million worth of value in 250 at bats, he simply shouldn’t be left of the list when Bengie Molina is bringing back less than that in twice the time.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
If you’re not better than the backup, then the fact that you play a lot of games isn’t really valuable. A team could just sign two backup catchers – like Miguel Olivo and Gregg Zaun – and let them split the position. Both can hit as well as Molina (maybe Zaun a bit better and Olivo a bit worse). Molina is only more valuable because of playing time, which would no longer be an issue.
I was promised lasagna.
What are the qualification requirements there? I can’t seem to find them, and I think it would be pretty valuable to the discussion to know them.
If Bengie Molina qualifies because he plays lots of games, then I’m kind of inclined to say that’s not very good.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh. That’s kind of lame. If you make the minimum PAs 350, he magically drops to 16. Which means guys getting significantly fewer at bats than him are still bringing in more TOTAL value. Which seems fairly damning.
Even at 400 minimum PAs, he drops to 10.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see the point in putting a PA limit when you’re using a count stat anyway – if Heyward hits 80 HR’s in only 450 PA’s, is he not the HR king?
PA limits are only for rate stats.
I was promised lasagna.
We posted nearly the same comment at nearly the same time. Clearly, I agree.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah!

I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
But
Isn’t the 16th best catcher in the major leagues above average?
My originial assertion was the Bengie is an above average catcher. All that you’ve countered with is that there are 15 better ones than him.
At the very least, then, he’s average.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I was only responding to the idea that he brings back the 8th most value. I’m not sure that “16th Best = Average” because “halfway through” isn’t how averages work. I don’t know how the value averages play out, so I can’t speak to the idea that he’s average. I just wanted to be clear that he’s obviously not the 8th best.
To be perfectly fair, the fact that it could only reasonably apply to Hitler does make the discussion kind of moot.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
No. He was (supposedly) 16th most valuable, not 16th best. Most other catchers weren’t given as much of a chance to produce as he was. Bengie basically played every single game unless he was injured or too tired, except for maybe 1.3 Posey starts near the end of the year, while many of the guys just below him in WAR were forced to share the playing time with another catcher (for example Zaun, Blanco, Shoppach, Ross, Hundley)
Another thing to remember is that WAR doesn’t include baserunning and catcher defense, which means it’s probably overrating Molina by a bit.
I would say that overall Molina is a below average catcher, and a well below average starting catcher.
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I disagree
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I don’t think the wind really hurt either of the long flies Molina hit. The wind was blowing mostly straight in from right, at times actually blowing out towards left. The ball Bengie hit into the corner was definitely helped by the wind. The one to the alley, probably not, but that’s a really deep part of the park; wind or no wind, that didn’t have enough gas.
actually
the wind was blowing straight in from the cove at that point — the flags were pointing directly at the left field foul pole. never seen that before.
not saying the ball was helped or hurt by the wind, just saying.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we all happen to be penis-suckers.
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Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, read my blog. It’s for real Giants fans.
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Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
The thing I like most about this Giants team through 6 games is that we continue to score runs in the late innings. Whether we have a lead or trail. Something we never did the last 3-4 years.
That
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
How many pitches did he see today?
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
How many pitches did he see today during his at bats?
(I know that 109 has some historical significance here, but I haven’t learnt it yet.)
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why do you have the worst hitter on your team bat lead off? That means he’ll get the most at bats.
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109 was the amount of pitches zito threw in one of his first good games i think
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by operation carrot on Apr 11, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He threw 109 pitches
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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
it was in a game day thread and somebody asked how many pitches Zito threw, and like a million people replied 109 at the same time
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by atxgiantsfan on Apr 11, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
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Believe it was the same series as the epic rain delay thread too
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It WAS the epic rain delay thread.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
oh
really? I thought there was no game that night
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but we were reminiscing about the prior game, where Zito threw 109 pitches. The meme started in the rain delay thread.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
ahh gotcha
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And Aurilia hit a home run off of Scott Olson either that game or series (iirc)
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Not exactly
It was in the prior gameday thread when 20 people (or whatever) all responded 109 to the question of how many pitches Zito threw. Maybe in the rain delay thread it started becoming the sensation we now know, but the actual event happened on the day of that game.
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Ok. I seem to remember the same thing happening in the rain delay thread. It’s possible it was just a copy of the actual event.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate Schierholtz.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 11, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The best part about this game
We did it without Renteria!
...is that we won
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by Headhunter Rollins on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
First time
Yay! I like Rent leading us though.
That’s because Velez just makes things happen. Example: Pablo’s HR
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez looked great in the field, too.
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Let's not get carried away
He didn’t make any errors, that’s all. Fortunately there was never a need for him to try to turn a double play.
It was a decent catch, but a play I would expect every big-league second baseman to make. It was only made exciting by the fact that I fully expected him to miss it. Maybe I shouldn’t have, though. He doesn’t really make me particularly nervous as an outfielder anymore, so I guess he should be OK on pop-ups. It’s ground balls and especially the turn on the DP where he’s terrible.
Rowand was looking for a wall to run into
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is this self-satire?
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Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
LOL
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Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Huff and DeRosa are awesome additions to this team. They really change the offense
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Don't really know about Huff
But DeRosa’s successful patient approach (and lack of getting benched for it a la Lewis because he’s a vet) seems to have instilled a modicum of plate discipline into the team. (Plus he’s a pretty decent hitter himself.)
idk, im hitting like .430 with huff in The Show, so he has been a good add
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Hooray for Aubrey Huff and his .227 wOBA! ;)
by Missing Barry on Apr 11, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff’s frankly been pretty terrible so far, but he has shown a better approach at the plate than I thought.
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Though I am somewhat scared that in July we’ll trade a good prospect for a mediocre veteran power hitter
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DeRosa, yes. The plate discipline is looking awesome right now.
I’m not seeing it from Huff.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Well, the plate discipline has been there for Huff. He’s taking a lot of pitches. He’s just not turned that into getting on base.
I missed much of this game, but what I’ve seen from him has not been much less hacker-ish than everyone else.
I guess that’s just an observer effect.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
What I’ve seen from him in all the games I’ve watched, I should say.
Also, Huff never turned taking pitches into getting on base last year, either.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Huff had a decent enough walk rate last year
His BABIP was just so awful that it dragged down his OBP.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Right. So, we have to see if his BABIP will float back up (zomg regress to the mean) or if his BABIP is down because he can’t make good contact like he used to. I’m hoping it’s the former.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
He hasn’t made much good contact yet, but I’m willing to hold out hope. A line drive would be nice though.
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SSS
and all that rot. I want to believe.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Fair enough.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
He’s scored 4 runs, off of 5 hits and 3 walks. He’s only hitting .217 right now, but his OBP is a solid 91 points above that at .308. If he starts making solid contact, he should get the job done quite well.
Might be considered a big ‘if,’ but he’s been a big part of several Giants’ rallies.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Wholeheartedly I agree, I really like DeRosa and I’m liking Huffs apporach which i think will translate to success soon, its only been six games, but i feel each brings something we were lacking last year
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by TexasRanger on Apr 11, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I mean, you know things are better than last year when Uribe is the 8th hitter.
Huff and DeRosa make the middle of the order not-laughable.
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Meh
I think Aubrey Huff is a better hitter than Bengie Molina.
I hope I’m right.
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Ah, truf
Yeah. Who knows. I think Huff will bounce back and have a ~ .800 OPS kinda season, but I’m an eternal optimist.
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But his SUTBB
will make him produce.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey batting leadoff>>>>Rowand batting Leadoff
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
what i wouldn't give for a real leadoff hitter...
not that Posey would suck at it, but a guy who could get on base and be a threat to steal… my god, it would be beautiful. crosses fingers for Darren Ford
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m really hoping the Giants go after Crawford.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think the Giants can afford him owing to certain other teams. I’m hoping Crawford gets out of the AL East, but stays in the AL. Since I sure as hell don’t want to play against him.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
To be fair, I’m starting to think the only way he comes to SF is if the Giants trade for him in June/July and he loves it here and they sign him to an extension. I’m a big fan since I see crawford as exactly the type of player we should be targeting for AT&T. Good defense, some power and tons of speed.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ding ding ding.
Though that speed might go to waste if the basepaths are all clogged. Still, I’d take Crawford in a heartbeat.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Well, what about this lineup:
LF Crawford
C Posey
2B Sanchez
1B Sandoval
3B DeRosa
RF Bowker
CF Rowand
SS Crawford
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that supposed to be this season? I don’t see Brandon Crawford as being ready for full time big league duty until 2012.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
wrong crawford.
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I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
(That post was originally “There’s one at each end”, but I’m making you guys earn it)
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Oh my.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
There are two…
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

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by victor frankenstein on Apr 12, 2010 3:51 AM PDT up reply actions
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 12, 2010 3:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Ignore my stupidity...
look at this gif!

My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
LOL
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This is for 2011. I think if the giants were to sign Carl Crawford, payroll concerns would have them go with Brandon Crawford at SS, as he would only be making the league minimum. If Crawford falls on his face, then Burriss or Rohlinger would be in the picture.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s fair. Brandon was pretty flashy with the glove in Arizona, or so I hear. I am conservative about my estimations for him, because I don’t want to rush him and do just that, but I can see how there would be a need, since Rent’s contract is espeeeeeensive, and Uribe isn’t a realistic everyday option at SS.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I think is one where the Giants have to deal off some of Rowand’s contract before pulling it off. Therefore:
CF Crawford
LF Lewis
C Posey
3B Sandoval
2B DeRosa
RF Bowker
SS Renteria
1B Ishikawa
Even with an 8th-place 1B that lineup is orgasmic. Imagine Neal being real there or something…
/shivers
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
That would certainly be a good lineup. However, I can’t see trading Rowand without getting a bad contract back.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Giants end up with Crawford, I’m sure they’ll accept nothing for Rowand if they can dump $6 million for each of his last two years.
This is all assuming a logical front office, of course. AKA not ours! :(
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
No, what I’m saying is that the accepting team wouldn’t take Rowand unless they take back a bad contract.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d have to think a team would be willing to grab a 2-WAR player at 2 years, $6 million per. The Giants wouldn’t have to take on a contract, just keep paying Rowand half of his.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I really see the Giants down the road (circa 2012-2013, when the Rowand and Zito contracts expire) spending big on pitching, and using cheap rookies for everything else, using FAs to fill holes where needed. Sort of like the 2009 Dodgers or Rockies… Except with pitching.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I want him too
I just don’t see it likely without a pretty large expansion of payroll.
It’d be cool if we could get Crawford or Werth though.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
I’m in love with Ford.
He must not let me down.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Add ons working well – Huff, DeRosa single in runs.
My intermittent audio managed to be there for the Pandbomb(!), the Heyward scare, the Affeldt save.
Good times.
Good night.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions
Pardon my redundancy.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
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Win the inning.
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Bizarre. It just started pouring, like, 5 seconds after Affeldt gets the final out here. Shortest handshake line in history
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Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
best quote of the regular season (so far) by a mccovenite "so you’re saying Einstein is no better than a AA physicist now? Talk about inflation." tyrranoman
by Headhunter Rollins on Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel somehow better.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That game was so much better than the Masters
by capn on Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
who are the masters?
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
by coolandtough on Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny Le
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Good game Giants
Good game
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
First HR Lincecum has given up at home since 2008. Stupid Mickey
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 7:53 PM PDT reply actions
Tettleton?
Mantle?
Drug dropped into someone’s drink?
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Bring On Ross Ohlendorf
Wasn’t he the Giants’ Opening Day 1b in 2007?
I've seen bums cry, bums scream, and bums squeal. I once saw a bum try to steal my dog's tennis ball. Bad idea bum!
Braves fans complaining about the time Panda scored on the single to right
Saying he kicked the ball.
In their gamethread.
I didn’t think there was anything for them to complain about during this game.
I guess I was wrong.
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He kicked the ball? I don’t think he had any idea where the ball was.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They could complain that Timmy didn’t play fair by adjusting to his lack of control of the fastball early in the game.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no way he intentionally kicked the ball….in mid slide. They can keep complaining..
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
and i thought Yankees fans were retarded
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
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by Tim LinCyYoung on Apr 11, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
And they still are
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Kicking? Ha.

FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
Heyward missed the target, and McCann whiffed on his scoop attempt, but it was Pablo’s fault because he put his thigh where the ball was going.
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
So you do understand.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
HOW DARE HE RUN IN THE BASEPATH AND SLIDE INTO HOME PLATE!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Someone show this to the Braves fans.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I Think He May Have Intentionally Kicked The Ball
It’s still perfectly legal if the ball is bouncing near his leg.
I've seen bums cry, bums scream, and bums squeal. I once saw a bum try to steal my dog's tennis ball. Bad idea bum!
by Doctor Crybums on Apr 11, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
They also complained that Pablo’s HR was hit too high and too deep so it shouldn’t count, only HR’s ending in front row should like McCann’s.
Win the inning.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 11, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
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This exchange is particularly charming
I hate Sandoval….such a fat shit.
by JadedMayberry on Apr 11, 2010 6:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN….. HEYWARD HYSTERIA IS UNDERWAY
by JKowalek on Apr 11, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
he def threw his leg up at the end, if that’s not intentional, I don’t know what is
“There’s a little sound off the bat,” Cox said.
by FrankyWren on Apr 11, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Whiny bitches
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Well
Then yeah, FrankyWren, you don’t know what ‘intentional’ is
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
jesus christ
get a life, you fucking losers.
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They remind me of Philly fans
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe ESPN does their power rankings every Monday...
Lets all predict where they’ll have us. We are tied for the best record in the MLB with 3 other teams. I say they put us at 4 or 5
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
We’ll be below the Braves
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's see
Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, Dodgers, Cubs, Marlins, White Sox, Mets, Twins, Angels then Giants.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
you forgot the Tigers
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll go Yankees, Phillies, Cardinals, Red Sox, Twins top 5. 5-1 Giants will be 9th; 5-1 Tigers will be 12th; 5-2 A’s will be 15th; 5-1 Blue Jays will be 24th.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
I remember the ESPN rankings being pretty fair to us last year.
I’ll predict something below 10. 8?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Especially with Pedro Sandoval on the team.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Apr 11, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
109
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 11, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll say 6… Just figuring there’s no way they’ll put us in front of Yanks, Sox, Rays, Cards, Phillies after only one week.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
If they ask xanthan, probably at 30
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
One behind KC
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
8
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I agree with philly 1 FWIW
they are fucking insanely talented.
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by bondslegend on Apr 12, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
OH MY GOD
they linked to xanthan’s site!!!!!!!!!! Am I the only one who thinks thats awesome? Or does he get the star treatment all the time now?
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Who?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Completely agree with the Giants Twitter
What you will hear too much of on @ESPN tonight @JasonHeyward hits 2HRs in 3 days. What you won’t hear is the Giants K’d him 5 times in 12AB
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 7:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Won't refute that the guy has power, but...

by sayheybk on Apr 11, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Post this on talkin’ chop
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Awww.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I absolutely love this video
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd for outstanding cuteness
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LOOK AT TEH KITTEH
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Apr 11, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sooo.. the first 2 teams we've played this year have had 1 of their best hitters out for each game
do we get lucky and somehow go for 3.. Its the Pirates, so maybe… Andy LaRoche? is out..
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
McCutchen...
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I’d rather face Andy LaRoche for 3 games then Delwyn Young.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Garrett Jones, dude. Kid is wrecking the ball.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I dunno if you could call him a kid…
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yeah, he's like 30
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29, according to Baseball Reference.
I got thrown by the fact that he’s only played 120ish games in the bigs.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Yeah
he’s a kid in terms of service time. That’s why his sudden surge of power is so crazy, he’s a career minor-leaguer.
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Before he went crazy last year
He was basically AAA filler
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
He’s young at heart.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 11, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeremy Affeldt: 2-0 and a save
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions
Pujols just homered off of Hoffman but Milwaukee still leads 7-6.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Holliday ain’t bad either.
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lol, the only guy this guy likes is Matt Cain. That different than how it usually is
true
i just can’t stand any of their players. Uribe, Sandoval, Fred Lewis (when he was on the team), Lincecum, Molina, etc.
Only guy I kinda like is Cain, but we never face him.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
How can anybody hate Panda and Timmy?
Some over there also think our announcers suck. I’ve never understood that.
Also, they are extremely negative towards the opposing team over there. A lot of “fat fuck” and other stuff like that. The Giants are extremely lucky apparently, too.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
A lot of people think everybody else announcers suck.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
But we are right…compared to everyone else, our announcers are better.
Miller is among the best ever.
Fleming is like 26? 27? And I could easily see him going the Ted Robinson router and going national.
Kruk and Kuip are super entertaining. Kruk has his homer moments but is generally professional.
We are very very fortunate. The Dodgers have Scully and then crap. Most other teams are just crap and then more crap.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Flem is in his 30s lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
that still amazes me. He has a long career ahead of him and he’s working beside one of the best announcers in all of baseball. What a great situation.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
But his upside is only 3RD ANNOUNCER AT BEST!
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
this
so so so this. When you hear highlights of other announcers and then watch the Giants’ highlights it really is night and day.
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But you are a Giants fan. If you weren’t, you MAY have a different opinion.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Whatever
under no circumstances would I think someone like darin sutton was a good announcer. Just because you root for a team doesn’t mean you have to like their shitty broadcasters
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A lot of DBacks fans think he’s good. He’s shitty but they think he’s good.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Lol ok
so the fact that they’re wrong means…what, exactly? Our announcers are good. I’m sorry that you don’t like Kuip, but you’re wrong if you say that he’s not better than 95% of the announcers out there. He just is.
He might not get 100% of the names right or whatever, but you can listen to him for a full game and not want to punch him in the face at the end. I can’t listen to a guy like Sutton or the rockies announcers or Hawk for 5 minutes without wanting to throw my computer against a wall.
When kuip calls a classic moment (no hitter last year, 756, whatever), he does it in a way that you remember. That’s pretty important, and there’s not a lot of local announcers who can do that
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Lol, I think you’re reading too much into SFGuy’s comments, all he’s saying is that fans generally don’t like announcers from other teams.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This is what I mean.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Yeah, that is true
but that doesn’t mean they’re right. The giants guys are better than most teams broadcasters
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lol I agree
but I can kind of understand why other fans wouldn’t like them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think people who say they hate Jon Miller is because he isn’t rooting for THEIR team. I remember in 1997 NBC did the World Series. Marlins fans thought the crew was pro-Indians. Indians fans thought they were pro-Marlins. It’s because the NBC crew didn’t root for their team.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
And that’s what makes Miller so great. He’s not a homer.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
I agree
It’s kind of frustrating (in a good way) listening to him on the radio because his volume increases are about the same for both teams. When I don’t pay attention I get excited for all the wrong reasons.
If someone has a free day, I’d like to see comparisons between different announcers and how much their volume fluctuates during HRs. Not the worst objective measure of homer-ism.
/bows
I had a good post ready where I analyzed game time temp and Lincecum’s pitching stats in 2009, but didn’t post it due to the generally intimidating presence of the MCC and the grammar police. Also I think I titled it something lame involving hot boxing or some thing.
Hmm… |HR volume change| / LI = homerism of announcer?
OK. Even with Kuiper, they are better but my point is every teams fans think theirs is great whether they are or not.
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True
but some are right and some are wrong. That’s MY point. The Giants guys really are good, we’re not just saying that because they’re our guys
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Sometimes I don’t know. Not anyone here necessarily but there is blind love (meaning loving Papa and Snow, too).
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Well
I’d probably call anyone who loves papa a moron, too. Just as long as it didn’t get me banned
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Ugh
I hate Greg Papa…whose idea was it to give him his own show?
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Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
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COME TO PAPA!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 12, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate Papa but I thought he was screwed out his Warriors gig. They replaced him without warning with what I think is the worst broadcaster in the Bay Area: Bob Fitzgerald.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Soooo…. perfect match then.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 12, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
IDK
I think Hawk is more popular than he should be, but there are plenty of Sox fans who hate them. And plenty of Braves fans who hate their announcers and Reds fans who hate their announcers and so on.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m sure there are Dodgers fans who hate Vin Scully.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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They'd be wrong too
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Could be
but i’ve seen him say he doesn’t like kuip before and it never made sense.
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Well, he doesn’t, but I don’t think it has anything to do with what he’s saying here.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Maybe
what i got from it is he was saying that we as giants fans were unwilling to see that our guys are just as bad as everyone else’s, but we just wouldn’t admit it because they’re our guys. I don’t think that’s true.
I think that just because a fan base roots for a team doesn’t mean they automatically like their announcers. On the whole they might, but reasonable fans are able to admit when their teams have crappy announcers.
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I think you’re projecting, especially since he already said that wasn’t what he meant.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Possible
just explaining what I got from reading it. Definitely possible I misunderstood
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HE GONE!!!
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
Seriously, those guys don’t even tell you whether the pitch was high/low/in/out or what kind of a pitch it was. “There’s a strike.” That’s about the most info you’ll ever get out of them.
White Sox fans LOVE Hawk Harrelson. I want to cut off my ears but they think he’s great.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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He ruined the call of a perfect game
how the fuck can you pull that off?
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Vin Scully once said he lets the action speak for itself. Harrelson loves the sound of his own voice and Chicago tends to like that style. Hell Cubs fans love Ron Santo even though he does nothing in the booth. They would be the same ones who say other teams announcers suck.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Ok
but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a terrible announcer. The people who think he’s good are idiots.
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I don’t think they are idiots. Bad taste, maybe. But everyone has a right to opinions that disagree with our own. Doesn’t make them wrong nor an idiot.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Maybe not an "idiot"
but if someone thinks darin sutton or hawk harrelson are good at announcing baseball, they are wrong. It’s not an opinion issue.
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That is an opinion issue. You’re not wrong for thinking they are horrible and they are not wrong in liking them. If someone said the Giants lost today, they are wrong. Opinions are never wrong. Misguided but not wrong.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Well, whatever
if you want to be that technical, then maybe they’re not “wrong”. But they might as well be.
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I always love these commentator discussions
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond.
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ron Santo is a terrible homer, but I just want to stand up for the Cubs by saying that Pat Hughes is actually pretty damn good. Not Jon Miller good, but good.
Maybe it’s because he’s paired up with Santo but Hughes sounded mediocre to me.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Bad pairings can bring a good announcer down
Like the way people don’t seem to like Jon Miller based on what he does on ESPN. Joe Morgan just brings him down.
MERCYYYYYY!!!
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About Kruk and Kuip, yes.
Not Miller and Flem.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I've thought of this possibility
But I hated Joe Angel and I hate Greg Papa.
I make fun of JT.
I’m not just an announcers homer. Ours are better.
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This
when FP or papa are calling the game I can’t listen.
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Or BIP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WIN THE INNING
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
oh yeah
forgot about that
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I believe Flem said he was 33 the other day during the post game.
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, we can be pretty negative at times too. I think we told Martin Prado to burn in hell like thirty times this weekend.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t know. I might be biased but there seems like a difference between our negativity and theirs.
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How about how certain players snort cocaine or should die in a fire?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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That kind of stuff seems more tongue in cheek
I don’t think anyone really wants said players to die in a fire.
However, I think “fat fuck” and such is completely sincere.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
yeah its cuz we are doing it, we all have said horrible things in the heat of games
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
and how much do we hate Yunel Escobar?
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone hates Yunel Escobar?
Why? Because he’s good at baseball? I only hate him because he doesn’t play for the Gigantes.
that’s kinda the point. it seemed like every grounder was hit to him today and he was amazing.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t judge, we call Shane Victorino Rectumface all the time.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
also, SUCK IT RUSSELL MARTIN!
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
But, that’s Shane Victorino
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a cheap player
when have timmy or pablo ever done the kinda things he’s done?
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Remember when he faked an interference when he got caught in a rundown?
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Exactly
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That was on Timmy's first career start right?
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Nah
It was against the Mets, I think.
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I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Maybe he did it twice?
http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-shane-victorino-is-a-cheater/
The time I’m thinking of was against the mets.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Cheap play
I wasn’t in the GDT but how was the reaction of Cabrera getting sunglasses in the 2nd inning
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Kevin Frandsen: Better than any SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
In fairness
There’s a helluva lot of badmouthing of opposing players on our GDTs, too
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Maybe
Most of ours is directed at people where there is actual history against (Victorino, etc.)
And when there isn’t history, the negativity seems more tongue in cheek.
Maybe I’m just biased, here, I don’t know.
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Well, it is Atlanta
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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope nobody has Hoffman on their POKOMONZ. Tie score now.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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I do :(
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
back to back homer.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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This will not be good for my ERA.
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pelotas are flyin' out of miller park
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
LOL HOFFMAN
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 8:07 PM PDT reply actions
Is there any chance, any chance at all, that with Lewis hitting well in AAA, he gets called up, put in LF, DeRosa to 2b, Lewis leads off? Or am I just crazy
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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 11, 2010 8:09 PM PDT reply actions
crazy might be a strong word
Hopelessly naive, perhaps.
Who’d get dropped?
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Velez, I believe, still has an option. Uribe would just take over utility full-time, with DeRosa at second. Velez is pretty pointless on this team; I feel bad saying that about the guy, for some reason, but I don’t think he’ll be around much. When Freddy Sanchez comes back… well, we can deal with that next year, I guess
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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 11, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d love to see this
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
-109%
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
me and Mrs. D after the Pablo bomb

best game ever.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Apr 11, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Wait, you aren’t like a million years old?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t look a day over 500,000.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 11, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome! At least the game was worth the wait!
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Thumbs up
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Ponchos FTW!
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I ever tell you that I’m friends with Nate Daly out here in Albuquerque? I spotted you on Facebook or something and was all, “Hey, that’s delorean, the guy from McC who plays music and has a hot wife/mistress.”
by Dan from NM on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
did u stay for the whole delay nd evrything we got ther at 11 left at 8 30
THIS IS THE YEAR..........
by DoubleDeuce22 on Apr 12, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, we went fishing in Cabo!
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions
Well played Mauer
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 11, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone notice that on the ESPN box scores they now show the number of pitches seen? Huff saw 17 in 3 AB…Pablo saw 6 in 4 AB :)
Clearly Huff had the superior game.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Talking Chop on the Giants victory:
The fat slobs and the 10 year old stoner kid took 2 of 3 from us.
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was that their Mod or just a commenter?
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Commenter, commenter
Their mods seem nice enough. Some vitriol in the comments though.
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lol

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by delorean on Apr 11, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This.
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That.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Step back

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by Natto on Apr 11, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Fuck you, braves
if your shit don’t stink, maybe your team should actually win
Pussies.
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They’re mad because, for the most part, we made their wunderkind look like shit
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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
2 HRs in the series
not really “looking like shit”. If that’s looking like shit I want that guy on my team
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Friday they did.
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Yes
because one bad game is definitive proof that a guy was shut down…I think 2 HRs in a series is pretty good, even if the 3rd game isn’t.
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I didn’t mean for you to take it so seriously and flip out.
He was shut down in two of the three games, btw
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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE HEYWARD OK
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
History will repeat itself.
To be perfectly fair, the fact that it could only reasonably apply to Hitler does make the discussion kind of moot.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Brewers win a walk off by McGehee.
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I GET A WIN!!! LOL
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
A pitcher who gives up the tying run (esp. 3) shouldn’t get a win.
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+1!
LOL winz
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BAY AREA TIES!!1
Casey McGeehheeeaaeehheee hits a walkoff homer.
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yeah,
everyone who was knocking my boy is cordially invited to suck it. Flashin the glove and bashing the ball
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anyone who hates Pablo hates baseball
Same with Heyward, IMO. I was pretty stoked to see a Heyward bomb in a Giants win. That guy’s gonna be an all-star for 10-plus years.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
As stated many times
i really really love heyward. The amount of love is almost unhealthy.
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I like him.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I'm sure he's gonna be a great player
and I’m sure he’s going to be fun to watch, but I don’t really ‘like’ non Giants. But I don’t dislike him to say the least (other than his nickname)
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s his nickname? Kward?
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
After game 1, yes
prior to that
“The J-Hey kid”
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ew.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I like heyward. I hate the hype train.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, this.
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Sometimes the hype train is deserved, though
when it’s for someone like joba chaimberlain (who’s not even as good as matt cain, but because he plays in NYC he was hailed as the second coming), then it’s worth hating the hype. But Heyward is a legitimate super star player. He deserves it.
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this
One of the reasons I went last night was to see him. He’s legit. The kind of power/approached he showed on the two home runs he hit in the series definitely met the hype.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
yeah, but I think eventually it sucks for the player. Rookie players, even those with great potential, have moderate success their first year. I think the prime example is lincecum. I just don’t want to hear the negativity later on when he has a 2-23 stretch with 10 K’s. He’ll be great, but not this year. Same with Strasberg
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he WILL be great this year, though
that does happen with great hitters.
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I can understand that opinion. I agree with one stated in the GDTs. Heyward will be like Howard this year, but Pujols in the future.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Just wait for the Bryce Harper express.
That’s gonna be wild.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN's already backing off of Harper
SI gets to jump on that grenade.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
ESPN’s starting to rumble that Harper is overhyped, and will not make it to the majors as a catcher, thereby decreasing his value.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Yeah like people know a 17 year old won’t make it.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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What is it with you people?
I’m just saying, ESPN isn’t blowing their Strausbergian wad over Harper and sticking him on the cover of their mag like SI did.
Crimeny.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Wasn’t directed to you but ESPN.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Sheesh
What is with you?
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You people?
What do you mean, you people?
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I’m secretly a racist Braves fan.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I think that’s a cover.
For something much, much worse.
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Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Strasburg
I’m cautious to join the hype train for Stephen Strasburg. The dude throws heat, but something about all this hype makes me wary of his future. We shall see.
+1
I took him in one POKEMONZ league, but I’m not exactly thrilled about it
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Yeah. I won’t deny the kid could be ridiculously good, but I hate that ESPN won’t shut the hell up about him, simply because they want to say “ZOMG WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT HEYWARD. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.”
Also, breaking news: The Red Sox and Yankees are good.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
(just don't watch ESPN)
it works for me.
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+1
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s quite nicely built. And seems to play a bit of good ball.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I agree. Probably about the only time I’ll be happy about an opposing player hitting a HR was today in the ninth. Didn’t affect the game and it was HEYWARD dammit.
Then again, I possess a similar level irrational love for Andrew McCutchen. Why can’t my team have a young, five tool star in the OF?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
WE CULDA HAD HEYWARD ZOMG
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McCutchen
What are the chances the Pirates dump him at the deadline? Seems to be their MO these days.
I’d rather have him than Crawford, to be honest.
by fantastical on Apr 12, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
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by bondslegend on Apr 12, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
C;mon Warriors. Don't fuck it up. Lose.
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DAAAAAAAAAMN!!!
The snakes scored 13 times IN ONE INNING today!
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LAROCHE WUZ RITE!!!
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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 11, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLFail
I just noticed that this was mentioned way earlier, but that is still mind boggling.
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I really like this team
I’ll probably hate them in a couple months. But I like this collection of dudes.
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Also
couple things: how was pablos HR? Bummed I missed it
And I love the look of those hats
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It was an absolute bomb. It was nearly impossible to hit it out tonight and he hit it way out. Might have been a splash hit in more normal conditions.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
20 mph wind.
All kinds of awesome.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 11, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
:DDDDDDDDD
I need to see this. Stupid mlb.tv is stupid tonight though
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Wait for the video to be uploaded on MLB.com.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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I am impatiently doing so
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ESPN has the Pablo highlights
Included is the play where Pablo does kick the ball away at home plate (after he has scored). Nothing illegal about it.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Thanks for that
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wow
that was awesome
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Majestic
Would hit the water if the wind wasn’t Candlestick-like
Win the inning.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 11, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
fucking ridiculous. Into the wind, almost on to the port walk. CRUSHED.
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When they showed it on “profile” view on the replay, the path the ball took was ridiculous. It went straight out to a point about a hundred feet up and three hundred eighty feet out from home plate, and then dropped straight down. Wind was no joke. Both homers tonight (Pablito’s and McCann’s) were just crushed.
Extravagant, lucious, purposeful
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Apr 11, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It was fuckin' awesome, man.
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Scrumdiddlyumptious
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Yes, what they said
It was crushed
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I love the adjectives
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I like this team, and I have a feeling I’ll like it more midseason. The guys who could come up midseason I love. If posey comes in midseason and playes 4-5 times a week, I’ll love it. If Joey pitches like he did today for a while and becomes the 5th starter, I’ll love it.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
YEAH JOEY
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I really hope he makes it. I feel like if anyone should make it back, he should.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. Plus, he’s a nice dude and he went to Boston College.
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that would be really cool
I mean, seriously, what are the odds Wellemeyer is still the 5th starter by the end of May? 25%?
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d say 50/50. He has three SP in Fresno who could supplant him. all that needs to happen is one of them clicks. Pucetas looked horrible on Thursday, same with Bumgarner on Friday. Joey was great today.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
What are the chances posey really does get called up and plays?
is that actually going to happen? They’re not stupid enough to waste him, right? RIGHT?!
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I think if he tears up AAA in April/May, we could see him before whatever the magic date is.
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And bochy has to play him, right?
I mean seriously. He has to.
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Maybe I’m just optimistic because 5-1, but I think if they call him up this year, they will actually play him (whether at catcher or at catcher and first base.)
If there’s another game like last night’s, where hitting Whiteside 8th couldn’t even minimize the damage he did, the rumblings for Posey could get loud.
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God I really hope so
I can totally see SITUATION BOCHY just sitting him on the bench night after night though.
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I like to think there’s no way he could get away with that this year.
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I'll fly out there and go to a game
just to hurl something at him if he does
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If Posey hits .400 at Fresno, no way Bochy can sit him.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
In that case…
/runs after Bondslegend
WAIT! I have a few empty bottles to hurl at Bochy!
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Late inning defensive replacement at first base!!
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
I watched him play Thursday night in Reno. If he keeps playing the way he has, he will be called up. maybe not until June, but he will. Also, the chances of him getting call up also depend on the play and Health of Huff and Molina.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for a bengie injury
sorta like Dilfer in 07. It’ll be kinda sad if it happens, but it will lead to the team getting better.
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yeah. I think 2 and a half months in Fresno will help Buster, but watching him hit…man could he help the giants right now. Like in the leadoff spot.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think once he comes up, he’ll anchor either the #2 or #3 spot for years to come
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If we didn’t have Mr. F coming back at some point, I’d say he belongs in the 2 hole.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh good, he’ll be in the 2 hole then.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
FAIL!
That means you’re also rooting for Whiteside as your backup catcher
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Huh?
Would Molina really be the backup to posey if he’s healthy? I don’t see a world in which bochy lets that happen
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If Molina puts up a line like last year
…and Posey does what we expect, I don’t think the front office would let him give more PT to Molina than Posey. I know they mostly let Bochy fill out the lineup card, but I think this is where they’d say, “Listen, we didn’t start this kid’s arb clock just to let you teach him what it’s like to ride the bench in big leagues.”
If the FO refused to say, I’ll call Bochy myself and say it.
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But they also might just let Posey play some corner OF or something. Right now I think they still see Molina as a better hitter than Bowker.
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
If they bring Posey up June 1 and they're "in this thing"
…I’d have no problem with them sitting whoever was sticking out like a sore thumb with ineffectiveness, be it Molina, Huff (sorry son), Bowker or Derosa.
(If it’s Molina, but they sit someone else instead, I’ll be pizzed.)
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I don’t think it would be too terribly hard to find playing time for both catchers if Posey were to be called up.
Most catchers don’t catch more than 3/5 of their team’s games anyway, so if Molina got 3 starts to Posey’s 2, that still means that Posey could get plenty of pinch hit ABs or (gasp!) playing another position.
Not optimal, sure, but I think you could actually have both guys coexisting fairly well together.
Thing C
I'm holding out that Neal will be a September call up
and go Jacoby Ellsbury for us circa 2007
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I’m sure they showed up but left.
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There are at least 2. As two of us here didn’t show up. Baseball counts actual tickets sold and not those who went into the park.
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A lot, when I arrived around 1:30 many folks were leaving.
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You get a magnet schedule?
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It was pretty empty in the view level, quite a few stayed underneath in the lower level, but yes, no where close to the paid attendance.
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by rightcenterfielder on Apr 11, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
When the game started, I would have guessed the place maybe half full or a little less. But we saw people leaving as we were coming in, during the top of the first. So definitely a lot of people showed up but couldn’t take the four-hour delay. (Most of the people we saw leaving had small children with them.)
In the words of KSK Rex Ryan
That was a fucking great win men! FUCKING GREAT!!!!
Timmy you were smoking joints and those fucking weak pussy ass hitters, Jason whothefuck struck out and didn’t do shit against you! Affeldt you gave up a homer to the fucker but you pitched great swung like shit!
Pablo you fucking destroyed!
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by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Apr 11, 2010 8:36 PM PDT reply actions
OK
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whoa there
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
needs moar Hobbes
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions

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I love Calvin and Hobbes. I would buy the box set but heard the binding of the book is awful.
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It is.
I own the box set, as well as most of the original books. The box sets are great for memories and collecting (as well as watterson’s commentary), but I can’t sit and read the box set. The originals are still the best to kick back and enjoy.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I think I’ve read every single book like 5 times each. So awesome.
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Great to poop with
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
absolutely
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Also, I love the landscapes in Calvin & Hobbes. They are so beautiful.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll top your "C&H" fandom
Named my son “Calvin” after the comic strip. (and Ripken).
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Along those lines, when I get a cat (and I plan to soonish), I plan to name him Hobbes
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 12, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Compare that to the Peanuts box sets. Those are well made.
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I can’t imagine putting all of those comics into one set.
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well year by year are box sets
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I know. I have them.
I mean, I wonder how big the book for THAT would be.
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The box set is fantastic, if for no reason other than the fact that you have every C&H strip ever drawn, sitting right there in your closet.
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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
This
The box set is hella heavy and hard to use, but I’ll usually use this page when I’m trying to find a strip anyway.
Did I mention that the above page is awesome? Because it is.
Give me something to put here and I'll put it.
I love you
that site is awesome
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Edgy comment is edgy
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Even I think that's a little much
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Then don't EVER and I mean ever read kissing Suzy Kolber during the NFL season
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/04/tiger-woods-gets-a-little-extra-motivation.html
It’s like that but ten times worse
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by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Apr 11, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I usually don't
but their post on the bissinger/leitch thing was hilarious
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That was what got me to start reading it then I stopped
Rex Ryan became to much for me, and I’m a Jets fan! :P
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by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Apr 12, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
mmmmm.... chick-fil-a
today was sunday too, the day i’m most hungry for it
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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by atxgiantsfan on Apr 11, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol Warriors can’t even lose right
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Also Stephen Curry looks like he’s approximately 15
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The wolves coulda had him, jennings, and blair
and they took 3 fucking point guards. I wonder why I don’t follow basketball
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LOL RUBIO
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
And we think the Giants have bad management
they also trade Mayo for KEVIN FUCKING LOVE. God, what a joke.
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They traded Mayo for KL and the ability to dump some seriously bad contracts, but w/e.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I don't claim to know anything about the NBA's salaries
but it’s still a stupid trade, because no big name FAs want to come here anyways.
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His potential is much higher than Loves though
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
RACIST
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I’m sorry. I can’t help but wonder if that’s why people say things like that.
In reality they have both improved in exactly the same area (shooting efficiency) from last year, while keeping their other stats pretty much the same. I guess people are still thinking Mayo is going to bust out just because he was a big shot recruit and all that.
Thing C
Don’t worry, I wasn’t being serious.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Well I realized I was (sort-of) branding him as a racist with my post immediately after I posted it, so I felt bad.
Thing C
You weren’t. Not even ‘sort of’. I think your comment was a perfectly legitimate comment and that it wasn’t insulting or unfavorable in the manner that you think it was.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Don't worry about it
When it comes to basketball I understand the question completely.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Love is an unathletic blob
yes, he’s also white. But steve nash is white and I’d rather have him than mayo. It has nothing to do with skin color, it has to do with athleticism, and the fact that the Wolves already have one of the best big men in the league. They don’t need a guy like Love, they need a play maker, and that’s what Mayo looks like he could be.
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But he’s not a playmaker at all. He’s a guy who’s making open jump shots (and he deserves credit for that), but he’s certainly not a PG and he’s not initiating their offense.
Kevin Love’s assist rates are higher than Mayo’s this year, and he is a PF/C.
Thing C
Yeah, but look at Love's supporting cast!
oh wait…
I admit I could very well be wrong on Love, I just was pissed at the time of the trade because it sounded like such a stupid thing to do.
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by bondslegend on Apr 12, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not going to cast aspersions on that line of thinking, because at the time it very well may have been a bad move, given the available information. I don’t know; I didn’t really research either guy coming out of college, because I think analyzing college stats is kind of a dead-end street.
But at this point it seems clear to me that the trade was, at worst, a push for the Timberwolves.
Thing C
Well
any trade where they’re not obvious losers is a net plus right now, at least until Mayo turns into Jordan v 2.0
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by bondslegend on Apr 12, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
For me it’s athleticism, and I’m personally not a fan of big guy power forwards.
Mayo is a 6"4’ guard with a similar mold to many of the best guards. Plus he’s shown he’s capable of putting up 30pts a game if he refines his play.
Love is a 6"10’ Forward who I believe has the potential make of a 20 ppg (tops) with a solid amount of rebounds.
Don’t get me wrong I want Love to do good, (I’m a UCLA basketball fan) and that’s not to say that he can’t help out a team a ton, but we’re talking D. Wade vs. Carlos boozer.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I should have read this before i posted mine
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I hate Kevin Love
because he is a Bruin and because of his douchey Uncle Mike. You know, Mike Love of the Beach Boys.
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by Murray, Present on Apr 12, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
and isn’t he a FA after the season anyway?
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
To be fair, Kevin Love has been better than OJ Mayo so far. By a lot. I don’t necessarily expect that to last, but still.
Seriously?
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huh
well there ya go.
They’re still stupid for taking 3 point guards in the first round and only ending up with 1 player out of the deal.
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Yeah, there’s no defending their drafting last year. And like I said, I expect Mayo to be a better player than Love eventually, since I think Love has about peaked and most people still think Mayo has a lot of room to improve.
I know he’s still young, but he seems pretty polished to me. Maybe he can get a little stronger, but I just don’t see that much upside. I dunno, I could be wrong; I don’t watch the T-Wolves very often.
Well, he has increased his shooting efficiency this year. I wouldn’t put it past him to end up as one of the most efficient shooters in the NBA when all is said and done, because he seems to have a competent three-point shot in addition to a low post game.
I am not sure about the rebounding numbers, but from what I’ve read players don’t tend to improve a whole lot in that area.
Thing C
Honestly I think Mayo should be a SG
Unless he’s really willing to change his ways
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 12, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Warriors fans stupid for cheering the win.
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Guess that makes me stupid.
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Not you necessarily but people who go to every game and realize getting Evan Turner would help this team.
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Of course getting Evan Turner would help the team, but you should never not root for your team to win imo.
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Especially in basketball, where the top picks in the draft all depend on a lottery and not a direct 1:1 correlation with the record.
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Warriors still have a chance to drop even further with one more win.
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Even if the Warriors ended up with the worst record, it’s possible they wouldn’t even get the #1 or #2 pick.
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True but more ping pong balls, better chance to get the #1 or #2 pick. 6, they would no chance.
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Wow
So you want your team to lose so they get more ping pong balls?
that’s seriously the lamest thing I’ve ever heard. And I participated in the DFArowand blowup.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
With 3 games to go, why not? Wins don’t mean anything anymore. Nelson has his wins record. Just play well and lose.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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no
my personal view is that wins always mean something. Think if you were on the team- if you’re the kind of person that would think that way then you’d be a sucky athlete. You have to want to win every game, even if it’s “meaningless”
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I want them to lose
Normally, I wouldn’t, but more ping pong balls plus a better chance that Nelson leaves is too much to resist
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
It's goin to the wolves!!!
And they’re gonna take wall. Because Kahn has a hard on for point guards, apparently.
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Could not agree more
whenever my dad says the niners need to lose to “improve their draft pick” I wanna punch him in the face. But I don’t, because he’s my dad.
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Hey Natto
I think he just snuck a “you people” in there.
SFGuy hates Asians!
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Self-hate, I see.
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“I paid 30 bucks just to see this stupid team come back and win it?! I HATE YOU WARRIORS!!!”
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lol
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Oh man, they’re going to insert Barry Bonds into the Giants highlight on Sportscenter.
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The Giants highlight will be Bonds and Heyward.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
A caller on KNBR thinks Bowker needs more time in the minors
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
22GIGANTES WAZ RIGHT!
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
I love how Bowker goes 1-3 and he needs more time in the minors, but if Molina goes 1-3, he’s the key of the team and the leader that keeps the team together.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Barry on Sportscenter!
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And they didn’t squeeze the Heyward jack into the Giants highlight reel.
Video editing self-restraint ftw.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Wow
that really does amaze me
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Braves fans are probably livid about that.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Sportscenter?? What is that?? Quick Pitch on MLB Net FTW.
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It’s this show on ESPN. Surprised you’ve never heard of it.
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That was a fun 8 1/2 hours at the park
Kinda bummed we missed out on the team reunion, though we did get to see Barry’s hand waving out of the CSN booth.
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by rightcenterfielder on Apr 11, 2010 9:04 PM PDT reply actions
Wunderground Satellite!
I knew this game would play out, wonderful wunderground satellite is recommended! Sick game, I think I like molina over whiteside….
I'm talking about Mountain Dews baby.
STOP PICKING ON MY BOY
he had a great defensive play, OK?!?!?!?
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Yes, but he is missing those ground balls to his right. Twice today. Not panicking, just sayin’.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
yeah
he really should’ve had the second one. but the 3-hit day and great play on the foul pop more than made up for it.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
I'm just a little sensitive about mah boy
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First time I've used it this year
but mlb.tv’s archived games are amazing. The video seek is totally instantaneous.
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If you don’t have any time, you could always watch the condensed games (just the final pitch of every at bat).
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They actually changed condensed games this year I think
No longer every at bat. It has all the hits I think, and the scores? and some K’s…
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Yeah
but they take longer to post than the full games do
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Yeah. They don’t even have any of the noon time games up yet.
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MLBAM BRAZ
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Yes they are.
That’s the consensus from Frankenstudios, where the pursestrings are loosened so as to allow the witnessing of dedicated fielding such as this:

As for the double – well, he just needs to work on his perception/reaction time.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Apr 12, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
YEAH BOIIII
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SportsSOUTH sucks
So I live in Indiana now, and have to watch the Giants via the Extra Innings package on comcast. And for some reason they played the Braves telecast yesterday, even though they normally stick with the home team’s station. Anyway, besides the utter stupidity of whoever does braves games (at one point someone literally said “Sandoval with the pickoff attempt to third” during a wellemeyer pickoff attempt to first), at the end of the game they kept talking up how Kawakami is a “dragonslayer” because of his record last year against some pretty good pitchers. They were acting like Kawakami was going to get the W with ease, just kind of pissed me off that they still won’t respect a kid who has just won 2 consecutive Cy’s. I just think it’s funny that Timmy handled that and I wish I could have seen there telecast today. Dragonslayer…..lol
by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on Apr 11, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions
BTW, there are an insane number of braves fans in indiana, more so than any other team. So it makes me soooo happy when the Giants beat them.
by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on Apr 11, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Where in Indiana?
I used to live in Bloomington. Loved it there…
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Been to Brownsburg a few times. My Co.’s race shop is located there.
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I live in Bloomington during school. I go to IU. But in the summers I stay in Fort Wayne. Home of the Padres single A team Fort Wayne Tin Caps. And also the second biggest city in indiana, but you’d never know it. Indiana is alright in the summer, but anytime else I miss the coast.
by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on Apr 11, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
How many times did Chip Caray say “fisted”?
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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Look at how many PAs Scott had, and there is your answer.
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
they did keep mentioning how the giants had an uncanny ability to GIDP. And they were perplexed as to how the game wasn’t a blow-out with Lowe walking like 9(?) batters last night.
by Sandoval Stays Suckafree on Apr 11, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Weren’t we all.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
New Nintendo DS commercial
ends with “It’s good to be big”.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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TWSS
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
McCoven: Most always happy to be wrong.
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 11, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And Im 4 and half pages into my Junior Thesis! yay!
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 9:21 PM PDT reply actions
Good for you!
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
How many pages do you have to get to?
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Useless ESPN stat is useless.
“It’s the first walk-off wild pitch for Detroit since 2003.”
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
hey we had one of those last year
i was at that game.
i was stunned.
by russian.tank on Apr 11, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
when I read this, it reminded me of a few season ago when Tyler Walker walked the bases loaded, then struck out the side.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How long has Panda been near-sighted?
Are you telling me he did all that last year without seeing correctly? How’s that even possible? (unless his myopia is very minor… or that it got significantly worse in the off-season)
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That game
was worth freezing to death. I went down to the yard ~12pm to feel it out, went back home, studied, ate food, listened to the radio, finally made the trek back to the yard when it looked like the weather was gonna chill out.
i knew things would turn around when i saw the rainbow

(shitty camera phone pic)
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I saw this while driving home from Walnut Creek. It was pretty incredible out there. Double rainbow, full arc, and the inner bow was the brightest I have ever seen.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I was playing soccer in San Bruno in the rain during that “freezing to death” weather.
It sucked.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Too bad I didn't get to use this

Maybe in Atlanta.
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by Natto on Apr 11, 2010 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe when the Padres play the Braves. Since you know, Fred is not going to be on the Giants.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Do they have a Fred now?? The Braves go to San Diego next.
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No. I was joking that the Giants would drop Fred, and just chose a random team to pick him up.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
still awesome
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This came out in Aug, 2003? Jason is like, what, 13?
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
You could do Freddy Sanchez!
Well, not right now. But later!
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
His wife won’t mind?
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by zodiac_chiller on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Never start Lincecum in a rain delay
Lincecum struck out 10 and overcame an early home run, Sandoval hit a two-run shot and the San Francisco Giants beat the Atlanta Braves 6-3 on Sunday night in a game that finally started after a rain delay of 4 hours, 9 minutes.
"I’ve dealt with things like this before in school," Lincecum said.
also
Lincecum even got in a 30-minute nap as he waited for his 2010 home debut. He blew on his hands to stay warm between innings.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Liked this quote
"He’s the best pitcher in the game," McCann said. "It was almost like he changed to another gear after the home run. His changeup is close to unhittable."
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum went all of last season without allowing a homer at home in AT&T Park, and this was his first in the waterfront ballpark since Colorado’s Seth Smith(notes) connected on Sept. 23, 2008.
goddamn
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody in the FO should get this guy his own recliner
He can nap between innings when there’s a DH in interleague games.
Win the inning.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 11, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Eugenio made a nice catch in shallow center
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Was pleasantly surprised. Since Scott broke back towards the wall, Eugenio was our only hope.
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Row really does loves those walls. You just can’t keep him away from them
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hears Carrie Fisher
Help me E-u-genio, you’re my only hope.
by paboperfecto on Apr 12, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Question
we just got a 5 guys here and I’ve seen that some on this site aren’t real fond of them. Is In n out even better? Because I was blown away by 5 guys’ fries. They were unbelievable
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I don’t know what 5 guys is but I stop short of eating at a place named “5 guys”
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by zodiac_chiller on Apr 11, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Granted
it’s not the best name. But goddamn they make a good burger and fries
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I got blown by
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ive only had 5 Guys once, and it was pretty damn good. But expensive.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
twss
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
You’re really having a lot of fun with this thread, aren’t you?
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I dunno, how much fun can a woman have with a thread?
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I wouldn’t go there super often, but the fries were like actual potatoes. You could see the potato skin on em. So freaking yummy
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
In n’ Out is overrated, IMO
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m meh on their fries but their burgers are good. Compared to other fast food chains they seem to be a good employer.
by non sequitur on Apr 11, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This
I don’t like their fries, but their burgers are great and their shakes are bomb
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The fries are much better if you get them well-done.
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“double meat, animal style, fries extra crispy” is what I get.
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always been intrigued by the fries done animal style, but I feel like I would hate myself afterward if I did it.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It seems like a half-assed take on poutine. Which might actually be a good thing, now that I think about it.
Thing C
I had poutine once. That was enough.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/googles
oh my god. That looks terrible
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s actually fairly tasty (though only at first, by the time you get to the end and the fries are all soggy and stuff, it’s disgusting), but … it’s still gross.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
gravy and cheese curd at the same time
that’s where it goes downhill for me…I guess I’d try it. But it just sounds wrong
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
by the time you get to the end and the fries are all soggy and stuff, it’s disgusting
This is also the downfall of many a garlic fry.
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh no.
It’s delicious. But really, really unhealthy.
Oh no, I never have the fries animal style, I like my potatoes pure and crisped in oil with just a shake of salt.
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it could be good with just cheese and grilled onions, but the idea of having the special sauce too is gross.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Pretty sure you can order it with just cheese and onions.
I had the fries with cheese once. It was meh-inspiring.
Give me something to put here and I'll put it.
I just really hate all the little chinga pieces at the bottom of the tray.
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by Giant among Angels on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought people here (xanthan) loved 5 guys
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I just remember reading a comment where they were dissed
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all about Nation's anyway
….I’m sad it wasn’t mentioned.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
Good call.
Though Nation’s gets a bit too greasy sometimes.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
In-N-Out is possibly the best *fast food* burger...
…but there definitely are better. There’s a place here in Santa Barbara that is spreading over the Central Coast called “The Habit,” and they make some pretty great burgers, but you have to wait a little longer and pay a little more than In-N-Out, McD’s, etc.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
5 guys is that way
takes probably 10 minutes. I was surprised
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After reading the minor lines
I started day dreaming.
What is so wrong about hoping to see:
Lewis LF
Posey C
Bowker RF
Panda 3B
Derosa 2B
Schierholz CF
Renteria SS
Ishikawa 1B
Sigh.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions
:(
:(
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
But other than the stupidity of a multimillion dollar franchise not understanding the concept of a sunk cost, isn’t this about as good a lineup as we could field right now?
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I say yeah
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Just about.
Rowand/Scheirholtz is debatable, but pretty much even.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Nate in center?
really? could he do that?
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If Nate was given time to learn CF, I’d say he could improve over Rowand. Probably a little more range, better arm. And probably his only chance to increase his playing time right now. It’d be a good career move, in my opinion.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
interesting
guess I’d never thought of that before
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also Nate has upside compared to Rowand. Ditto Ishi/Huff.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think once incorporating defense wise, Rowand/Schierholtz in CF and Sanchez/DeRosa at 2B is debatable. I like the idea though
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think DeRosa is better than Sanchez at 2B.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Offensively, yes. But doesn’t DeRosa have a pretty horrid UZR at 2B?
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s OK but lemme check. And remember that SSS applies strongly to all of DeRosa’s UZR because he’s a utility guy who plays at 5+ positions.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
granted, but he has looked in general better in the OF than IF I believe.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OK. DeRosa has a career 2B UZR of -7.5 and Sanchez comes in at 5.8.
So DeRosa needs to be 10 runs better with the bat. I think he is, but perhaps it’s debatable. The Sanchez knee injury is the X factor when talking about defense.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
agreed. I wasn’t trying to say that it would absolutely be Sanchez at 2B, just that it was debatable. Also, the debate could be solved by sticking Sandoval or DeRosa at 1B over Huff/Ishikawa.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, those Braves fans really are jerks. They seriously despise Pablo Sandoval on Talkin’ Chop.
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Why the hell would you despise Pablo Sandoval? My buddy is a diehard Giants fan, and even he like Pablo.
Thing C
Well, then shouldn’t he like Pablo? Or did you mean he’s a dodgers fan? Or were you making a joke?
Basically, I’m confused
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Not only did I somehow mix “Dodgers” and “Giants,” I incorrectly conjugated the verb. Double fail. Let’s try that again:
Why the hell would you despise Pablo Sandoval? My buddy is a diehard Dodgers fan, and even he likes Pablo.
Thing C
Thanks for the correction, totally agree with the sentiment: Pablo is just good fun baseball
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
He ain’t white?
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I mean, what’d you expect?
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t expect them to hate Pablo. I mean, it really is vitriolic over there
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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If I lived in Georgia, I’d be bitter too.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I must be getting back to my wine and cheese.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Julia Sugarbaker would like a word with you
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I’m coming from the perspective of having spent a lot of my early years around braves fans during the summer, so my expectations are set really low
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
A Braves about 6 rows in front of me got tossed last night, and hoo boy did he fit the hick stereotype. No hair up top, drunk as hell, and being totally insufferable the whole game. Finally got the heave-ho in the 7th or 8th, but not before Lou Seal harassed him for a couple of minutes. I felt very vindicated.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Was that the one where Lou Seal took his hat and rubbed his seal armpits?
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Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
He was obnoxious.
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Well
I love heyward, even though he killed us in the game they won. I like prado too. You don’t have to be a dick because the other team has a player that’s really good.
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s a meme in all of these boards to hate someone who is really good.
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fair point there
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess so. I don’t hate Tulowitzki much, then again, I don’t participate in every game thread nor watch every Giants game.
Thing C
I hated Tulo-shitzki before I arrived at McC. Hate, hate. Not he’s good hate.
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Lots of people hate him
Bay Area ties or not. He seems like a smug douchebag.
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Bay Area ties doesn't necessarily equal automatic like
See: Byrnes, Eric
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Why the huge amount of (seemingly genuine) hatred for Tulowitzki? Is it because he’s local and plays for a division rival? (Or if it’s just because he’s a douche, what sort of douchtastic behavior has he participated in?)
Watching him lead the Rockies to walk-off after walk-off last year got really obnoxious. I know nothing about the dude, but I haven’t liked what little I’ve seen of his attitude. Again, watching him slam his bat down after watching him fly out in the 9th against Lidge last October was very satisfying, because you knew he was waiting for the Rockies magic to save them again, and it wasn’t there. You gotta have some hate for your division foes, especially the good ones.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I don’t know I save that sort of vitriol solely for the Dodgers and players that represent idiotic outdated stereotypes, (e.g., Eckstein). Even then it’s not that strong. For example, I can completely understand a Dodger fan absolutely abhorring guys like Wilson and Zito. But hating good, seemingly nice enough baseball players is a bit beyond me. Combine that with the fact that he’s local, I’ve always had a hard time getting in on the Tulowitzki hatred. I’ll call him Tuloshitski at appropriate intervals, but he’s certainly no Russell Martin, Eric Gagne, etc.
He's a Giants hater apparently
Grew up an A’s fan
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Let’s not forget about Gagne back in the day, either. And I believe we were saying that Russell Martin could suck it even before he actually sucked.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
IDK
do the people here hate someone just because they’re good? Seems to me there’s always a logical reason for the hate around here.
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really hate, hate but saying we hate them.
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because they’re good and went 4 for 5 vs. the Giants.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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give me an example?
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
When Escobar made some good plays, it’s the sarcastic “man I hate Escobar” and shit like that.
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Maybe in the GDT
but afterwards? Like they’re doing with pablo? IDK, I don’t see that very often
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess so.
Then again, it is Braves fans.
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I never thought they were that bad
but I’m pretty ignorant RE: other teams’ fanbases
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
apparently the braves fans “hate” pablo
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
And it’s seldom serious hate. More like “ugh I HATE him” rather than “That man is a blight to all that is good and holy and must be eradicated from the species and his genes and his name as well”. I mean, that’s just Rectumface.
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I mean, Pujols is one of my favorite non-Giants players, so.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you link to the area of these comments so I can check them out?
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
well, why not
He was one of the most infamous drug lords in history and was responsible for the assassination of civil servants, countless other murders, and the destruction of lives while head of the Medellin cartel.
Or, like ESPN, I could be mixing up my Latin names.
by non sequitur on Apr 11, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I seriously don’t understand how someone could hate Pablo Sandoval.
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IKR
He’s a PANDA! who hates a panda?
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate pandas, except the Panda
they are so smug.
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exactly
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Bears are godless killing machines.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
But but but it’s actually a GIANT RACCOON
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually they’re bears. Red Pandas, however, are related to raccoons.
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/world shatters
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Cuz as an opposing teams fan, you don’t get to see the personality we all have grown to love?
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That's obviously true
but it’s not like he ever plays dirty or anything. He’s just a cool dude
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably jealousy. They are jealous they don’t have young infielder like Pablo.
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Who basically came out of nowhere
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t stand Jose Reyes, but I suspect he comes off as much more fun to Mets fans.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Phillies fans loathe Reyes.
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And he’s round and chubby! You’d think coming from the South they’d identify.
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by shanghaijim on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, I guess he doesn’t get a ton of national publicity yet, but it seems like the general media story for him is “JOLLY FAT GUY!”
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Lots of ESPN and MLBN folk profess to be Pablo fans.
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I think he gets a rap as a goofball, so the highlights don’t paint him as favorably as they do McCutchen or Ramirez, or the other young stars. Also, the Giants are still an “overachieving 3rd place team” on the West Coast, so the exposure is dampened somewhat. The analysts know that he plays the game well, but they don’t make the highlight reels.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
I could understand funny jabs, but the post-game post just goes into the asshole category.
Pablo Sandoval may be kinda fat, but he’s got some serious shadowpuppet skills.
right up until Pablo Sandoval hit a 2-out triple (fat dude can run!) in the 4th.
Kung Fu Panda, who used his bulk to good advantage
It was like they couldn’t mention him without calling him fat, with nothing funny involved. Calling Lincecum Spicoli I can understand, but they hate the Panda.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, I disagree, I didn’t think the post itself was bad.
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For an admin post it's beyond what I would expect.
Just calling someone fat every other line just sounds butthurt to me.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It really doesn’t read as malicious to me.
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I guess I just don't find going "so and so is fat" very funny, so I take it as an insult.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 11, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I just don’t find going “so and so is fat” very funny, so I take it as an insult.
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by victor frankenstein on Apr 12, 2010 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Uhmm.. Uhmm,,, LOOK AT THIS GIF!

Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 12, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I find Grants posts funny
Plus I’m usually the last person to ever get offended and/or not take things humorously. Maybe I just have a man-crush on Sandoval? I don’t know.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 12, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think calling him fat every time they mention him is fine and joking.
It’s stuff like this that I’m not into:
When was the last time Sandoval saw his toes? Does he have someone tie the laces on his cleats?
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by UMDBHIK on Apr 11, 2010 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
The game was crazy, sometime in the next 6 hours I might actually thaw out. We stayed at the park the whole time; although we did “sneak to better seats” View box was a little too exposed to spend 6 hours there.
Where did you sneak to? We had a lot of folks come down from the third deck in our section.
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SWOOP!
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 11, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
come on
how cold was it? It’s always fun for me to hear californians complaining about cold…
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If we weren’t soaking wet, and the wind wasn’t blowing like crazy… it wouldn’t have been too bad. It was the being wet that made things COLD.
Yeah that's true
moisture sucks
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
50 degrees in the rain, especially when it’s windy, is cold. And I’m from the midwest, by the way. That said, I wasn’t particularly uncomfortable at the game. I also didn’t sit through the rain delay — we didn’t leave the house until it looked like the game would actually be played, and showed up during the top of the first.
It's definitely a different kind of cold
and it is almost worse, because the moisture cuts through whatever you’re wearing. When I was in new orleans and it was like 40 degrees it was almost as bad as when it’s 5 up here. At least here it’s dry so you can bundle up against it
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by bondslegend on Apr 11, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well unfortunately we left the house on Friday, and even though we technically had the time to do so, we weren’t in the mood to drive back to Sacramento at 9am Sunday morning and then turn around and drive back to the ball park at 3pm!
We drove in for Opening Day, saw the Sharks Saturday night, and finished up with the Giants again today! [Our annual birthday trek.]
If anyone has MLB network
highlights of the Giants game on now.
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im watching it each time like it’s the first
by NeifiPerezz on Apr 11, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I take full credit for Pablo's explosion today btw
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Finally off the SBN cooling off period
hot balls what a win. i figure 9/10 of the braves fan base sleep in palin bed sheets, which makes this all the more sweeter.
-1
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
This would have been weird
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I liked the Nate McLouth line in that one.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Jeremy Affeldt knew what the approaching reporters were going to ask, and it wasn’t for reaction to his first save since 2006 with the Colorado Rockies.
No, it was Affeldt’s rare at-bat in the eighth inning, when he bailed out of the strike zone on a slider – that went for a called strike.
"It was going to hit me. It was going to hit me," Affeldt said. " I swear, it was going to hit me."
He reached into his locker and waved a printout of a video grab.
"See?" he said, perhaps not noticing the ball about to land in the catcher’s mitt over the plate. "It was inside."
Did he print it out as evidence?
"That, actually … the coaches tend to do that for me a little bit," Affeldt said, turning suddenly sheepish.
This, along with their 5-1 start, is the best possible thing that could’ve happened to the rest of the Giants. Affeldt was insufferable last season after he got a hit in two at-bats.
"He’s not going to be talking about hitting .500 like he did last year," Tim Lincecum said.
Well, don’t be so sure…
"I am hitting .333 still," Affeldt crowed. "That’s Hall of Fame status."
♥
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Leadoff hitter material?
At least he bails out on the slider instead of swingly away feebly.
Thing C
Bork.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Rowand at leadoff sounds dumb
Until you consider that there’s really no one else in the lineup who fits there any better.
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Bowker does.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Does he really? It’s an odd proposition. If this were AAA bowker, sure, but the plate discipline he’s showed thusfar (as well as the low walk rate from his 08) campaign would make me even more dubious of him than Rowand.
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I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Well, Bowker’s discipline this year has actually been off the charts.
Check this out.
Top 3 in the league at taking pitches out of the strike zone so far? That’s the guy I want leading off my team.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
lol
Rowand has the 2nd HIGHEST o-swing so far.
But this is all SSS
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I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
But it certainly speaks in confirmation of his AAA stats from last year.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Maybe.
Look, if Bowker starts churning out a .350 OBP season, by all means, hit him leadoff.
For now, I think, DeRosa is the more intriguing option. I think flipping DeRo and Rowand in the lineup could be fun.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
You’re flipping back and forth for this year’s stats.
When we talk about O-Swing%, it’s SSS.
When you talk about OBP, it’s non-SSS.
Saying only bat Bowker until after he reaches a .350 OBP is sort of like saying Posey can’t catch until he has experience catching at the major league level.
Also, O-Swing% probably has a stronger reliability than OBP at any sample size, but especially a small one, because OBP is tied to BAbip where O-Swing is the bare-bones ratio demonstrating plate discipline.
I’d prefer Bowker at lead-off over DeRosa.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I meant something that wasn't contradictory
Stop coming at me with your logic.
I mean, it doesn’t really matter. Most SABR studies that I can recall seem to indicate that lineup tinkering really doesn’t matter that much, even when perfectly optimized.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Yeah, I guess.
It’s eminently frustrating on a daily basis, though.
And on a team so close to the playoffs, every run counts.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Six games into the season and he hasn’t walked once, he sees maybe 3 pitches max per at bat, and even if he were to get on base it’s unpossible for him to like steal a base; no part of his game fits the typical “leadoff hitter profile”.
Renteria maybe? I hate to say it but… Velez? Rowand’s just not getting it done.
What about DeRosa? Not a great fit, but a better fit than Rowand, IMO.
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 11, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This I could get behind, actually
Walks a lot, and it seems like he’s actually pretty quick on the basepaths.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Hitting Velez leadoff means finding him a place in the lineup
Which means taking out bowker if you want him in RF, or Uribe/Sanchez if you want him at 2b.
In reality, these are your options on any given day to bat leadoff:
Rowand, Renteria, Sandoval, Huff, DeRosa, Molina, Bowker, Uribe…
Pick one.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
I predict that history will look kindly on the 09 offseason, even if we were pissed at the time.
Oh believe me I am in no way a Velezbian, never have been. If he does well, like he did today: HURRAY!!! however it’s going to take awhile for me to stop cringing whenever a ball is hit in his direction, or to stop assuming he’s going to get picked off of 1st …
DeRosa might be interesting there. I just think your leadoff dude oughta get on base every so often!
Definitely Bowker.
See above comment.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
As much as I say that I hate this team, I really do love them.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
I really like this team
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Magic number: 155
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WE'RE IN THIS THING!
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Apr 11, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Some Good Bits
Team RISP: 3-5. All 3 were with 2-out Ribeyez!
6 our our 8 starting position players mustered hits.
AND NO GIDPs!
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
THE MONEY LIES IN THE RBIZZZ
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OT
fangraphs has expanded their defensive stats to include +/-.
Which is great (to me, at least) because it makes it easier to research multiple defensive metrics.
But I don’t some of these new acronyms:
rSB rBU rGDP rARM rHR rPM DRS BIZ Plays RZR OOZ
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
All in Runs Above Average:
rSB – Stolen Base Runs Saved (Catchers/Pitchers)
rBU – Bunt Runs Saved (1B/3B)
rGDP – Double Play Runs Saved (2B/SS)
rARM – Outfield Arms Runs Saved
rHR – HR Saving Catch Runs Saved
rPM – Plus Minus Runs Saved
DRS – Total Defensive Runs Saved
BiZ = balls in zone (I think?)
Plays = plays
RZR = Revised Zone Rating
OOZ = Out of Zone
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Now, for putting these things to use, which ones are rate stats and which ones are additive?
If some of them aren’t rate, it’s too bad because Innings Played is up in “Regular Fielding” and these are all in “Advanced Fielding” so one has to screen up and down to get the relevant numbers.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Plays = plays??
You sabermatricians are your wacky codes
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d be shocked if Jponry isn’t 1st
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Natto doesn’t want that much.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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I think these post count things put more focus on quantity of posts rather than quality.
It’s easy to repeatedly post: STFD! FINISH HIM! NOOOOOO!
But that really doesn’t contribute much, does it?
by positiveuphemism on Apr 12, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
hush
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Srs McC posting is srs
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 12, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
STFU
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
FINISH HIM!
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NOOOOOOOO!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
STFD!
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by bondslegend on Apr 12, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
GREAT SCOTT!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
We should not focus so much on the counting stats
but instead, weighted posts created (wPC), or its more eloquent brother, wPC+, normalizing for quality of opponents.
This takes into account both Post Quality and post quantity, versus its cousin VORP, or Value Over Replacement Poster, which focuses only on Post Quality and not Quantity.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
AAAA poster at best…
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 12, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Its more fun when you can get someone else to do it for you
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 11, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, just finished watching the Lincecum highlights.
Looks like every single K was not only swinging, but with the change-up. What a pitch.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
According to the TMI blog on ESPN.com
Tim Lincecum’s changeup had the Atlanta Braves tied in knots Sunday night. He threw 22 changeups during the game, with the Braves swinging 18 times. They missed on 10 of those swings (55.5 pct), with six of Lincecum’s 10 strikeouts coming against the change.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Curious to know how many of the 8 contacts were foul, too
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Only 6 of 10? Looked like more than that.
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by raisingcain on Apr 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, he really had the change working yesterday. I didn’t see omg blazing heat, but who cares when the rest of his stuff is so nasty.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 12, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
HIS VELOCITY IS DOWN!!
THATS WHY THEY DIDNT GIVE HIM AN EXTENSION!!! OMGOMGOMGPANICPANICPANIC
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only after the 1st inning
Tim came out to the bullpen mound late and only threw about a dozen warmup pitches. He didn’t have his change-up in the 1st (see 2-strike FB to McCann, oops). But after that, stretches down the nerd, money!!!!
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Next schedule Tim start...
If 5 man rotation…Saturday vs. LA
If 4 man rotation…Friday vs. LA
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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BEAT LA!
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 11, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
just watched the highlights
Were any of the strikeouts on any pitch other than the changeup? One might have been a curve or slider or something, but basically it looked like all changeups. Man, that thing is nasty.
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If anyone wasn’t, the strikeout of McCann to end the third might have been a slider, if only because the break looked more left than right.
by non sequitur on Apr 12, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Whooooooooooa.
Montero has a torn meniscus! He’s been moved to the 15-day.
Aubrey Huff: guilty until proven productive.
Andres Torres: perfectly cromulent.
Not a big deal, IMO. Snyder has been a starter before and Hester, who got called up from Reno, is a pretty good hitter.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 12, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
big deal for my POKEMONZZ though
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OH WELL! guess you gotta find someone in FA
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Snyder and carlos ruiz are the best options
it’s not pretty
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you take what you can get man, no way of planning for it, but oh well
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Yeah
it’s a crazy SABR stat league. all about walks and OBP..not exactly strong suits for most catchers
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ahh, yes, that league. That sucks, but I don’t get the hate on snyder. I think snyder is a decent option and MUCH better than ruiz.
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by Speedforthewin on Apr 12, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m thinking of going with him after today. Now someone will probably pick him up just to screw me over. Bastards.
I think i caught a steal with Braden too. Looked gooood in his first 2 starts.
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by bondslegend on Apr 12, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
So.
Heyward is on pace to break Bonds’ all-time home run record.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Was he always projected to be a power hitter of this caliber?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
If this were his projection, he would have been the #1 pick.
by positiveuphemism on Apr 12, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
was he considered a 5 tool OF though? i totally forgot he was picked just after the giants picked
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Yes he was
He dropped to #14 because people were enamored with pitching? I’m not sure why.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
was that the same draft we picked Bumgarner?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yup
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y’all are killing me
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by greatgiantfan on Apr 12, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Suck it, bombs
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ESPN power rankings are out
We are #4, behind the Phillies, Yankees and…. Twins?
Well I guess the Twins are 5-2 and have hit for a ton of power without playing a single home game yet.
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Oh man

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What about the gamer-ness and inner magic?
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by ringleader3 on Apr 12, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve certainly never read about such a rule.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I was trying to imply that it was Natto’s FB status when I am almost positive it is not.
Thing C
Yeah. I think you may have missed my subtlety there.
To be perfectly fair, the fact that it could only reasonably apply to Hitler does make the discussion kind of moot.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Marty Lurie?
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 12, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
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Last night’s game feelings:
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Really glad we stuck it out yesterday. Since so many people didn’t show up or left before the game started, we were able to kick it in BruteSentiment’s lower box seats. It was pretty pleasant once the rain went away. And Timmy was awesome as usual.
Boyfriend Von CurrentEvents was cheering for the Giants all day. He likes Timmy too. I loaned him my Sandoval shirt, one of my caps, and my HUMM BABY! pin so he’d fit in. I had to laugh at the idea of loaning my boyfriend some clothes. We’re about the same size so it all worked out.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 12, 2010 12:22 PM PDT reply actions
Really glad we stuck it out yesterday.
TWSS!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 12, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS
Ben Roethlisberger not being charged.
What a dick of a DA to make his decision to DO NOTHING last week, and then put on a fat ass media show about it later.
“Yeah, everyone, listen. This is really big. We’ll hold a press conference and everything. You NEED to know about this decision. It’s a big fucking deal. I’m the DA. Did you know that? It stands for District Attorney. Yeah, that means I’m the shit. Anyway: Press conference – Monday. Be there.”
/Monday comes.
“Yeah, so. We’re not doing anything. Questions?”
To be perfectly fair, the fact that it could only reasonably apply to Hitler does make the discussion kind of moot.
hmmm
black player with questionable character issues gets sold for .25 on the dollar. White player skates. Interesting.
I’m not sayin, just sayin.
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In case anybody missed it, Holmes was cleared of everything. Some other dude came out and gave a written statement that he (the other dude) threw the glass that night and that Holmes did nothing aggressive.
To be perfectly fair, the fact that it could only reasonably apply to Hitler does make the discussion kind of moot.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
But also
Holmes just got suspended four games for violating league substance abuse policy. Apparently NOT performance-enhancing drugs.
STEELOLERS
To be perfectly fair, the fact that it could only reasonably apply to Hitler does make the discussion kind of moot.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, QB is a much more valuable position.
That has way more to do with it than race.
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ahh, so this is why all the white qb’s; when they get in trouble, no risk of missed playing time
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by greatgiantfan on Apr 12, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Holmes was their superbowl MVP
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SO YOU ARE NOT SAYING!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 12, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn.
I was at the game yesterday. Got the park at 10:30 went in for the little league event before it. I thought there was no chance they were gonna play that game. Apology to everyone on the boards here who said there was gonna be a break and I did not believe them.
Stuck through the entire 4 hour 9 minute delay because, dammit I wanted baseball and ended up seeing the best game I ever saw in person. Great seats in the lower box. Saw Timmy blow away batters in person. Saw a guy in Lower Box 102 heckling Billy Wagner when he came out to warmup before the game. Saw McCann’s huge HR, then see it dwarfed by Panda’s shot to the same place but further. Saw not one but two people ejected, including the dodger fan.
And was awestruck when immediately after Affeldt ended the game the rain started to come down like the end of the world. It was like the sky just opened up and allowed baseball to be played for only that time. Also it was getting cold so I was happy for the quick game.
Of course, WTF Giants Kawakami only 60+ pitches in 6 innings.
Just an amazing game. Also let it be known that when I got to games this season, Timmy gets the W, 10K’s and Panda goes 3 for 4 with a 3B and HR. You should buy me season tickets. It’s Science.
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Same for us. We went Friday: Giants win. We went to the game on Sunday: Giants win. Saturday night we were at the Sharks games, the Sharks won, but the Giants… Therefore we also need season tickets for the Giants, play off tickets for the Sharks, a house and jobs in the Bay Area and while we’re wishing for impossible things… a couple million in the bank and perfect health. Somebody get on that ASAP. Thanks.
get on it, sabez!
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by greatgiantfan on Apr 12, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I only went Saturday, and they lost
Maybe you should take my tickets
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get on it, sabez!
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mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
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Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD!
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by greatgiantfan on Apr 12, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions

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