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Community Projection: Pablo Sandoval

Last season, Pablo Sandoval hit .330 with a .387 on-base percentage and a .556 slugging percentage. He led the team in walks and home runs, and was tied for second in triples. Hey, he was also seventh on the team in stolen bases. Look out, ’85 Cardinals.

That’s all swell. We all know he was the only good hitter in the lineup last year, and depending on your appreciation for Mark DeRosa, Sandoval is probably going to be the only good hitter in the lineup this year. What often gets taken for granted, though, is just how freaking young he is. For some perspective, here’s a post from my 2010 top-30 prospects list. Well, not the one that was posted here, but the one posted in an alternate dimension:

Star-divide

3. Pablo Sandoval was 22 in the California League last year – so even though he was helping save humanity from the space locusts instead of playing baseball for the last two seasons, he still wasn’t so old that we shouldn't get excited about his performance in 2009 (.330/.387/.556, 25 HR, 52/83 BB/K in 572 at-bats). He hit for average and power, and his walk rate even climbed a little bit. He proved that he could play a decent third base, which helps his value a little as well, even if he isn’t going to catch again.

The Giants haven’t developed an All-Star position player since RBI Baseball was released, so it’s easy to get a little excited here. If everything goes right, Sandoval will continue hitting at AA, and maybe he’ll get a midseason promotion to AAA. And if things go well at AAA, you might see him get a cup of coffee in September. And if things go well in his 15 September at-bats, the Giants might keep him on the major league roster for a little bit in 2011, jerking around with his playing time and stifling his development in favor of half-busted retreads.

So I’m looking forward to Sandoval establishing himself in 2012 and becoming the first All-Star position player to come up with the Giants since Matt Williams. Then the world will end, but that’s only because the Mayans were Giants fans too, so they had some idea how this would turn out.

We’d all be excited about Sandoval if he had the same performance in A-ball at the same age. He’d be a top prospect in the organization. Instead, he had a ridiculously productive season in the majors as the only hitter in a bad lineup, in a park that hurts power numbers for left-handers. He finished seventh in MVP voting while charming the pocket protectors off of all of us. And he’s already good. We don’t have to worry about the Giants finding a lineup spot for him, and we don’t have to worry about the Giants signing Joe Crede to block him in 2011.

But will he regress? The established projection systems:

Bill James: .335/.382/.552, 556 AB, 24 HR
CHONE: .325/.368/.526, 458 AB, 18 HR
PECOTA: .319/.368/.522, 539 AB, 21 HR
ZiPS: .320/.368/.516, 597 AB, 22 HR

So pretty. Even though Sandoval’s 2009 was a bit of a surprise, the abacus twiddlers don’t see him giving a lot of those gains back. And when you watch him hit – when you watch him square up a pitch that almost hits the third-base coach in the knee – you know you’re watching a fellow with an unusual skill set.

If you want pessimism, take it back to last year. That projection was a poor attempt to feign responsibility. Not this year.

Pablo Sandoval:

AB: 553
AVG: .342
OBP: .392
SLG: .599
HR: 28

One more season like last year’s, and he’s tied in awesome points with Tim Linececum. We sat through the Lance Niekros, the Tony Torcatos, the huddling hackers yearning to breath free. We’ve earned this. Thank you, Pablo.

 

 

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580 ABs
.355
.407
.592
29 HR

by FireBrianSabean on Mar 9, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 533
AVG: .307
OBP: .369
SLG: .504
HR: 26

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 9, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

Lars likey!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 9, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 545
AVG: .322
OBP: .375
SLG: .512
HR: 28

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Mar 9, 2010 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

Sounds good to me

With your permission, I’d like to piggyback your prediction.

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on Mar 9, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking back on last year only a hand full of people predicted a BA over 310 and only one over 320! Also, most of the OBP projection where under 330!

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Mar 9, 2010 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

Pablominable Snowmandoval!

They say you're a pitcher; you sure aren't much of a dresser.

by CystedTwister on Mar 10, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha... fat billingsley

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Mar 9, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

hahaha.. fat broxton.

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by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Mar 9, 2010 7:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This is the one where I am not even going to bother being rational

AB 570
AVG .342
OBP .401
SLG .601
HR 31

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Very Bondsian

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 9, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

No, she said SLG would be .601, not OBP.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Mar 9, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought OBP meant:

“Oh Boy, Pie!”

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 9, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

CAKE

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Mar 9, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

wRC

“what? Really? Cake?”

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 9, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 552
AVG: .312
OBP: .382
SLG: .552
HR: 29

Russell Martin destroying crashes at home plate:
0 because Martin is a wuss

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 9, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

Hey, that's fine by me.

AB:552
AVG: .350
OBP: .402
SLG: .588
HR: 30

When do the bean counters start figuring him into “dynamic pricing”?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Mar 9, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

THIS IS IT (All star for a Giants' homegrown hitter that is)

AB: 550
AVG: .344
OBP: .405
SLG: .600
HR: 32
SB: 20

Let’s see Rectum Face try and match that, lint licker.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Mar 9, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

20 stealzz would be epic

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Rectum Face

Only man ever to make an All-Star team solely on the strength of a catchphrase.

Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Mar 9, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 622
AVG: .335
OBP: .392
SLG: .627
HR: 34
RBI: 112
LBS: 259

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

OT: Still raining in the desert?

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by bgunn on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Is Posey “scheduled” to catch?

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by say hey nation on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Neal’s weather forecast is real!

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The game is under way.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 9, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 530
AVG: .295
OBP: .360
SLG: .495
HR: 20
RBI: 95

#1 FanShot Champion

by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

banned

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by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I get scared when I think about the Giants having a good hitter. Also, I could see him having a bad BABIP year (maybe not next year) that mucks things up.

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I DON’T HAVE ONE

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

So….rusty….

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That makeup/costume is really great for the time.

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by bgunn on Mar 9, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the blue eyeshadow.

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks good on you.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 9, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Think with your emotion unit!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 11:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I saw yesterday that his BABIP has been up in the .350 range the past couple years (including the minors two years ago). How sustainable is that?

by FPTV on Mar 9, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

For some players it is. There are a few players who consistently post high BABIPs. Derek Jeter is one, although I don’t know his career BABIP off the top of my head. Sandoval might be one of those players, although his conditioning continues to raise long-term concerns in my head.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeter: .360
Tony Gwynn: .341
Paul Molitor: .326
Wade Boggs: .344
Will Clark: .326
Willie McGee: .341

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, Jeter’s is kind of ridiculous when taken in that context….

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

As much as I dislike Jeter for various reasons, I can’t deny that he’s a great hitter. First ballot Hall of Famer I think, even though I consider him overrated by the media/Yankees fans.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Great but overrated.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

THE STATS LAST YEAR SHOWED THAT HE WAS AN AMAZING DEFENDER EAT IT NERDS

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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent, so I can figure anytime I mention a stat that I think exists but don’t have offhand, will you post it for me?

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Ichiro: .357

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 9, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

so, good hitters have good BABIP? No foolin?

:-)

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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandoval appears to have gotten "lucky"

with his BABIP last year. As I understand it, Predicted BABIP is something like “line drive percentage plus 12%”. Sandoval’s line drive percentage in 2009 of 18.6% “should have” yielded a BABIP of .306 or so, though maybe he’s an exception to the general rule.

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, you're still here?

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, by this standard Derek Jeter has been lucky his entire career.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the long a player

does something the less reasonable it is to attribute it to “luck”.

Jeter’s high BABIP might also be supported by his high GB%, which is positively correlated with BABIP. (FB% is negatively correlated).

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

How much have you watched Sandoval?

I’ve seen enough of the guy to be convinced he has an innate ability to square up the ball. It doesn’t matter whether the pitcher has grooved one and he has a perfectly balanced swing, or whether he’s out on his front foot lunging out something on the outer half. Nearly everything seems to jump off his bat.

I’m absolutely amazed with his ability to make consistent, solid contact. The man was born to hit a baseball.

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 6:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Point of reference:

Check out the highlight vids from Sanchez’s No-No game.

Pablito clobbers a slow breaking ball at his knees and drives it near the cable car past the arcade.

Amazing shot. That was my favorite of last season.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 10, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

one of the best moments from that game

I remember thinking “hey, Sanchez might get a win AND a no-hitter!”

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 10, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Usually it’s a neither / or proposition for any of our pitchers!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite was from spring training last year. He gets a pitch that bounces in front of the plate and he hits it on the hop to the warning track for a 2-bagger.

Never seen anything like it.

I have an epic man-crush on this kid the likes of which not seen since my #22 man crush starting in ’86.

Your bench player is our #5 hitter!!!

by Mr. Angry on Mar 10, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I share your perception. But if it were really true, wouldn’t you expect it to show up in his batted-ball stats? His line-drive rate is completely average, and he hits more than his share of ground balls.

by Evan on Mar 10, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, batted ball stats aren’t exactly the greatest stats out there. Whether something is a LD or not is almost completely subjective, plus not all GB’s are equal, some guys will hit their GB’s harder, making them more likely to go for a hit. Same goes for FB’s – some guys hit more IF popups, some guys FB’s barely make it to the OF’er, and some guys FB’s are consistently hit hard. Without velocity, spin and vectors batted ball stats are limited.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

This

see, also reasons why I’m not completely sold on TRA

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 10, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Limited, of course. But if a guy doesn’t have the ground-ball/speed combo, he’s going to need to hit a crazy high number of all-but-uncatchable balls to keep his BABIP over .350, and there’s no evidence that Pablo’s doing that. I’ll be surprised if his BABIP doesn’t drop to .330 or lower next year.

by Evan on Mar 10, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, I’m just really not sure. I think there’s still a lot we don’t know about batted balls and BABIP. I don’t really have a prediction – as I said earlier, there’s probably some luck involved, but Pablo is probably a high BABIP talent, too, so I’ll just wait and see what happens.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if anyone's ever put the jugs gun on balls in play

As we discussed on another thread the other day, how hard one hits the ball seems to trump all the other factors in determining whether a batted ball will result in a base hit. When balsl are hit hard, grounders are more likely to get through, line drives are more likely get through the infield and fly balls are more likely to leave the yard or hit the wall.

Bonds was a good example. Even when they’d shift the defense to the right side, he’d hit the ball so hard to the right side that it seemed to minimize the effectiveness of the shift.

If there was a stat for velocity of batted balls, I’d think it would be very telling. Maybe it’s been done and I’ve just never heard of it.

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by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Hittraker.com uses something like that to determine its true length. I just don’t know who the proprietor of that data is.

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by say hey nation on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Hit F/X data would have velocity, I would think, though I’m not exactly sure where it is in the development process right now.

Also, one fun note – Sandoval has the same IFH% as career .324 BABIP speed demon Randy Winn.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Pablo - carrying the torch with class!

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Line drives will do that.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 9, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the first generation version of how to predict BABIP. Why is it first generation? Because it kind of sucks.

There’s an online BABIP calculator that takes in way more variables (handedness of batting, ground ball , speed, etc) that is probably a little bit better than LD + 12%.

by speckops on Mar 9, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I fail to see how Sandoval’s love-life is any of our business.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not a very good tool, frankly. There’s a lot of reverse correlation between BABIP and LD% – that is, a higher BABIP tends to produce a higher LD%. Measurement error, it happens. Also, a lot of BABIP is dependent on how hard a guy hits it and what direction he tends to hit it. GB’s from two different players are not equal, nor are fly balls from two different players.

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandoval from left side

gets absurd no. of hits down 3rd baseline.

by nogooddeed on Mar 10, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Most likely, Sandoval has been a little lucky (anytime a guys stat is far from the norm it’s more likely he’s been lucky to some degree than unlucky), but he’s probably a high BABIP talent based on how hard he hits the ball consistently and his track record of always being a high BABIP type guy. To put up the power numbers he does without hitting a lot of HR’s is probably a decent indicator of his ability to consistently hit the ball hard.

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I can be quite pessimistic about baseball (hey, I love mccovey chronicles, what do you expect) but pablo is one guy I reserve the right to be optimistic about. If you can’t be optimistic about pablo, who can you be optimistic about?

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by raisingcain on Mar 9, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are you the way that you are?

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 9, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t wait for him to predict Tim to have a 3.6 ERA

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahem

Looks like someone’s got some explainin’ to do

I’ll eat a batting helmet if he posts a .355 wOBA.

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by xanthan on Feb 19, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Mar 9, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll do it, too. Just as long as it’s not one of those David Wright giganto-helmets.

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure thing, dumdum.

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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Did you promise to eat a pair of socks too if he made it through the entire season at 3B? :-)

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

.320/.400/.600 with 74 HR’s, 74 RBI’s. Numerous complaints on SFgate.com about his inability to drive in runs.

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

And numerous arguments with that one guy here who always seems reasonable until RBIs get brought up.

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by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 600
AVG: .315
OBP: .380
SLG: .550
HR: 24
RBI: 89
Tins of Copenhagen: 162

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 9, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

I predict Sandoval will eat Velez….this, however, will do nothing to discourage Bochy from putting Velez in the line-up.

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Mar 9, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

He’s Poopin Velez!

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by bgunn on Mar 9, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Bowel Movelezment

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by iammclovin on Mar 9, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope that’s not the noise he makes. That seems unhealthy.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Velez is very high in fiber

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Mar 9, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably a bit stringy.

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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Mar 9, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Tastes very gamery

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on Mar 9, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

he lacks the veteran grit that rowand is made out of though

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by cloudydays on Mar 9, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

and low in fat!

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BOCOCK!? Come back to meee....

by capnk on Mar 9, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Rowand will teach him his stance to make it easier and subtle.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Mar 9, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 574
AVG: .327
OBP: .386
SLG: .603
HR: 33

CHA CHA BOWLS: 81

These pretzels are making me thirsty

by NuschlerFace on Mar 9, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 578
AVG: (π/10) + (ζ(3)/100)
OBP: .378
SLG: .545

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by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 559
AVG: .345
OBP: .390
SLG: .600
HR: 30

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Batting Title

AB: 580
AVG: .360
OBP: .420
SLG: .640
HR: 35

Someone get Damon Minor's agent on the phone stat!

by fanofvanlandingham on Mar 9, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

3 of these

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Mar 9, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Only 3 pieces of cake? Seems low.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Mar 9, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

3 trip and falls. Maybe 300 full cakes

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Mar 9, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I needed that today

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Mar 9, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

How does this never get old?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Because it’s the Panda?

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe it came from Dodger Blues

Hence the “DB” at the very end.

Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Mar 9, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

what happened after that?

he looks hurt – I don’t remember seeing this live – did he make it back to the base?

If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.

by wjackalope on Mar 9, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Tagged out at third. Looked like he was hurt but just tripped and was fine.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the game of the walk off HR against the Nats isn’t it? Wasn’t that his next AB?

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Mar 10, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Believe so

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by bondslegend on Mar 10, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t Hotlink Large Images!

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Mar 9, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh is that one finally dead?

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Mar 9, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, something fell down.

Was it…this?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Mar 9, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Is the blowing a chewing gum bubble while rounding second vid around?

Your bench player is our #5 hitter!!!

by Mr. Angry on Mar 10, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I recall arguing last off-season that Pablo was clearly not ready to play every day in the majors. LOL me.

by Evan on Mar 9, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

EVAN WAS WRONG!

I had him projected just as a league average hitter.

lolme.

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I had him projected with a .309 / .324 / .475 line, and thought that was optimistic!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember arguing with everyone who said he wouldn’t be able to handle 3rd base

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he is below average.

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

But he is a little better than I expected!

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by xanthan on Mar 9, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of people thought he would be so bad he would be off third base before the end of May. Clearly that didn’t happen.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, looking back at that thread, I somehow managed to say “your” when I meant “you.’re.” Fuck me.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Your stupid.

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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

It made him do that.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 9, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

They're you go again

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Get in line.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You wuz right.

I was mostly worried about him putting up a Molina-esque batting line, with a .285 obp or something like that.

by Evan on Mar 9, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Understandable concern, considering he drew only 4 walks in 154 2008 plate appearances. I was worried he’d hack at everything too.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Molina though

only drew 4 walks in 1542008 PA’s

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, but I’m not sure I get your reply. Are you saying Sandoval reminded you of Molina at that point?

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Making a joke by combining the 2 numbers in your post

Molina actually had a slightly better walk rate than what I posted

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I was one of the arguers. I was pleasantly surprised.

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by Giant among Angels on Mar 9, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 535
AVG: .341
OBP: .420
SLG: .580
HR: 29

All-Star appearances: 0, because New York fans vote in David Wright and he loses the last slot fan vote to Jayson Werth, then Charlie Manuel selects a Phillie bat boy for the last roster spot because that’s how Manuel rolls.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Manuel rolls?

Please don’t talk about that man’s FUPA.

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Mar 9, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 525
AVG: .327
OBP: .372
SLG: .541
HR: 22

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Mar 9, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 542
AVG: .321
OBP: .368
SLG: .521
HR: 20

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 9, 2010 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

Pablo Sandoval

Singlehandedly proving that it IS, in fact, possible to hit in a Giants uniform.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 9, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

These guys would like a word with you..

 Player G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

  1. W Mays
 2857 10477 2011 3187 504 139 646 1859 5907 1394 1436 336 98 .388 .564 .304

  2. M Ott
 2730 9456 1859 2876 488 72 511 1860 5041 1708 896 89 - .410 .533 .304

  3. W McCovey
 2256 7214 1113 1974 308 45 469 1388 3779 1168 1351 24 22 .377 .524 .274

  4. B Terry
 1721 6428 1120 2193 373 112 154 1078 3252 537 449 56 - .385 .506 .341

  5. B Bonds
 1976 6263 1555 1951 381 41 586 1440 4172 1947 949 263 69 .477 .666 .312

These pretzels are making me thirsty

by NuschlerFace on Mar 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

I don’t see Nick Johnson on the list, do you? Or Carlos Lee?

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 9, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

“Bill Terry sucks”

                                       —Will Clark

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

that mays fellow looks like he was a pretty good ball player

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Mar 9, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Mays, eh? Say, he was good.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 9, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe we should switch to cotton uniforms

Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.

by AXmrdrir on Mar 9, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a little bearish

AB: 525
AVG: .325
OBP: .385
SLG: .495
HR: 20

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Mar 9, 2010 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Who says MCC isn’t optimistic? Even an admittedly bearish poster has Sandoval posting an .880 ops.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I have Sandoval at 1.000 OPS and I think I’m as negative about the Giants as anyone around!

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 550
AVG: .404
OBP: .429
SLG: .603
HR: 42

What? I’m basing these numbers solely off my first two weeks of my franchise in MLB 10 The Show. Theres NO WAY you can argue with my science and logic…

Although I dont know how we are going to rebuild the polo grounds in time for him to get all those cheap home runs that he does in my franchise…

by projectmayhem713 on Mar 9, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

He is the Dragon Warrior as foretold of yore. He can do great feats as long as he is lured by cake. Or pie. Or bao.

Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.

by shanghaijim on Mar 9, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Mmm, bao

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think people underestimate Pablo’s power looking at last year’s total of 25. The guy had just 3 home runs through the first two months of the season, so he had some major catching up to do to get to his total. After May, he averaged 5.5 HR/month. Multiply that by an entire season and he hits 33 dingers.

AB 550
AVG: .326
OBP: .375
SLG: .530
HR: 33
Krispy Kremes: 427

Croix De Candlestick: You'll be a better person for reading

by Chulk on Mar 9, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

I think his SLG should be a bit higher if he hits 33 HR and .326 in 550 AB

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It really just depends on how often he sees cake rounding 2nd on a triple.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Mar 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Edit

.540

Croix De Candlestick: You'll be a better person for reading

by Chulk on Mar 9, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Shameless optimism

AB: 521
AVG: .341
OBP: .374
SLG: .534
HR: 29

If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.

by Mike Hawk on Mar 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

That’s a regression in his walk rate though? A better eye is what I think will drive his improvement. Of course, others may disagree with me. That’s okay though, others can be wrong.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

The game has moved from Rain to Warmup according to mlb.com. Looks like the 2pm start is realistic.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Mar 9, 2010 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

.335/.390/.570

30+ HR

Smiles brought to our faces: too many to count

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

this is good

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Mar 9, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Pablo Sandoval

AB: 567
AVG: .339
OBP: 392
2B: 43
HR: 29

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Mar 9, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty much the same for me, but I say the OBP goes up to around the .410 mark

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 9, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I choose to believe he'll only get better

.340 / .393 / .575
580 AB
30 HR

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Good on ya, mate!

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 9, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The House of Sandoval and Fog

(That would have been my fantasy team name if Yahoo didn’t have a 20-character limit….)

AB: 553
AVG: .336
OBP: .388
SLG: .552
HR: 29
Panda-related GIFs and JPEGs posted on this site: Eleventy Bleen

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Mar 9, 2010 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

My god that’s an awesome pic.

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Mar 9, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

needs some green

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Mar 9, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Fantastic

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 550
AVG: .335
OBP: .400
SLG: 565
HR: 30

2010 Nickname: “The Whole F’N Giants offense”

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

Sandoval's MLB rankings:

2nd in O-Swing% (behind Bengie)
1st in Z-Swing%
3rd in Swing% (behind Bengie and Francoeur).

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

D4P's posting stats:

3 comments on MCC (behind Mike Fox)
31 comments on True Blue LA (behind xeifrank)

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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I post

on Dodger blogs (mostly Dodger Thoughts), but I have a lot of sympathy/empathy for Giant fans who have to put up with Brian Sabean. After all, Dodger fans have to put up with his apprentice…

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We don’t want your pity.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 9, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So as he improves these numbers, which I think he will, he’ll only get better. Thank you for your input, Sir!

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Oh that’s just neat.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

not shown

the 15 times he whacked himself in the forehead before getting it right.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He also whacked his penis 12 times.

After that he started attempting the trick with the chair.

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

so, that’s Aubrey Huff in that?

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

How I know it's spring:

Trees flowering, buds sprouting, reports from Arizona, and Goofus rolling out dick jokes.

Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.

by VidaWantsYourCar on Mar 9, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Fixed

Trees flowering, buds sprouting, reports from Arizona, and Goofus rolling whipping out dick jokes

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

As long as you’re only whipping out dick jokes and not………

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.

by SFGuy on Mar 10, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

12 times

Oww chafing (Sp?)

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 11:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Russell Martin's 2009 Slugging Percentage

.329

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

but what's his SUCK IT percentage?

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

1.000

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

so he is good at something I guess

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, be sure to go on other team's sites and talk shit about their players, then

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 600
AVG: 1.000
OBP: 1.000
SLG: 4.000
HR: 600

by positiveuphemism on Mar 9, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

you bastard

I wanted to do the outrageous one

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Your always the outrageous one.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 700
AVG: 1.000
OBP: 1.000
SLG: 4.000
HR: 700

by bondslegend

by positiveuphemism on Mar 9, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

GRINNING FROM EAR TO EAR LIKE A GIDDY SCHOOLGIRL

AB: 570
AVG: Who cares (.338)
OBP: .390
SLG: .560
HR: 32

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

BTW
Defense at third: Acceptable, but it’s not where he’ll start in 2010.

LOLGRANT

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t LOL too soon. You know they’re itching to move him to first.

by Evan on Mar 9, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but he’s starting 2010 at third! HAHAHAHAHA (just kiddin around)

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 565
AVG: .331
OBP: .410
SLG: .575
HR: 30

I think teams start walking him a whole hell of a lot more this year

by DFARowand on Mar 9, 2010 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

Also I think everyone should post their favorite panda related GIS with their predictions.

by DFARowand on Mar 9, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Tugg Speedman murdered the Kung Fu Panda

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 9, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs Pablo’s face on the panda’s body.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Mar 9, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Real pandas

I hate them. Smug bastards.

They have the digestive system, like other bears, of a carnivore. Yet they insist on eating bamboo, which is a pretty poor nutritive source. Especially for a bear.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

And they’re incapable of mating. They don’t even enjoy panda porn. Yes, there have been experiments with panda porn.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No wai.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Mar 9, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Panda Porn. According to some other articles I saw, many Chinese reserves are actually having quite a bit of success with the tactic.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t they reproduce ok in the wild? I thought the problem was more with them in captivity.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

This site is awesome. It has encouraged me to read up on panda mating. It looks like the reserves are having more success recently and that pandas reproduce at about the same rate as black bears (one to two cubs every one to two years). From what I saw, it did appear that the mating problems were really with captive pandas. The interesting thing I found was that pandas have the least nutritious milk (no citation, sorry) of any mammal, so there’s a pretty high mortality rate among infant pandas, even though females typically give birth to only one or two cubs.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

makes sense that they would have least nutritious milk, given that they are making it from the nutrients that they get from bamboo.

And this site is awesome. It got me to read up on the different types of prokaryotes.

My employer might disagree that it was a good use of my time, however…

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Your anti-bamboo bias is really getting annoying

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by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll make up for this by having some bamboo for lunch

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 10, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

most bears aren't carnivores

They’re omnivores.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

However, they have carnivorous digestive systems, and are part of the order Carnivora. Behaviorally, bears, and other members of Carnivora do eat vegetative material.

Pandas are the smuggest and self-righteous about it.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

They wear Birkenstocks when no one is watching.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 9, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

But they call them Bearkenstocks

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Mar 9, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was funny...but just bearly

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The PUNishment

I grin and bear it

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Mar 9, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

They're Asian

someone queue up the “They’ll eat your dog” pic

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand, eating a poor nutritive source means that you eat all day. I wish I could eat all day.

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by neurofarm on Mar 9, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You can eat bamboo all day. I guess that may reduce the pleasure of eating all day though.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Bamboo can be pretty tasty!

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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I think after about the 16th pound of the day that you’d tire of it.

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by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

An intriguing suggestion, but I, unlike Pandas, cannot digest cellulose. If only cookies were a poor nutritive source. I could eat those all day.

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by neurofarm on Mar 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Pandas can't really either

Gut flora

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hence why they have to eat so goddamn much of it to get a few calories.

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by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I find it so strange that the vast majority of eukaryotes have been absolutely unable to evolve systems to metabolize beta-glycosidic bonds (like those in cellulose), but prokaryotes have done it many times over.

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by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So all eukaryotes that eat such foods rely on symbiotic prokaryotes for digestion? Interesting. It must not be too energetically inefficient then, otherwise eukaryotes would have evolved with their own mechanism.

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by neurofarm on Mar 9, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It must be quite inefficient which makes sense, the more I think about it. After all, plants use cellulose for structural support and starch (which is built with alpha-glycosidic bonds) for energy storage. Still, it’s quite interesting that herbivores can’t even metabolize the bulk of their food products without the help of bacteria.

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by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Uhhh…yeah. Me too. Really strange.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 9, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

There are several words in this conversation that are new to me.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I forget that Standard Medical is a foreign dialect for most people. I apologize for that.

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by cornball on Mar 9, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It was not meant as a critique of you, more as a joke about how intricate the conversation was and how lost I was reading it. You shouldn’t feel bad about using medical jargon in a conversation about something medical. It’s not like you were using medical terms in a conversation about something unrelated, like curling. Like when someone uses legal terms in everyday conversation. That can be annoying.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

oh no

You missed something.

This entire thing was about curling. Right from the start with the panda hate.

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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, son of a bitch! That always happens to me!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Too bad we don’t have those gut flora. Then we could graze. Just lie in the park all day and eat grass. That’d be awesome.

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by neurofarm on Mar 9, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really

Some jerk would eat all the turf in AT&T park and then we wouldn’t be able to have baseball.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

tending to my yard would be a lot easier though.

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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I'll try this projection thing just this once

AB: 524
AVG: .318
OBP: .368
SLG: .546
HR: 28

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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Mar 9, 2010 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

You're doing it wrong!

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 543
AVG: .352
OBP: .402
SLG: .589
HR: 32
RBI: 132

2nd in NL MVP voting behind Albert Pujols

by Michael Uhlhorn on Mar 9, 2010 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

No trolling,

just empathizing. The Giants lineup really is pretty remarkable.

Giants MLB Rankings in 2009:

O-Swing%: 1st, 3 standard deviations above the mean, and 1.3 standard deviations above 2nd place.

Z-Swing%: 1st, 2.4 SDs above the mean

Swing%: 1st, 2.8 SDs above the mean, and 1.3 SDs above 2nd place.

I’ll never understand how your GM keeps getting paid to do what he does.

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

Protip

We’re not interested in your empathy.

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by jponry on Mar 9, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I

see. I know when my empathy isn’t wanted…

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s funny how, when you show your empathy by ragging on one of the team’s best and most beloved people, people don’t like you.

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by jcb9 on Mar 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to rag

on Sandoval. He’s clearly your best player, and a very good hitter compared to the rest of the league.

But he still seems to suffer from the organization’s approach to hitting, which can be summarized as follows:

Prevent the catcher from touching the ball at all costs.

Few players can thrive under this approach. Maybe Sandoval’s one of them, but he’d probably be even better if he had better tutelage.

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, to put it another way… it’s funny how when you come over to talk about how crappy our team is, people don’t react well.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Vlad Guerrero says Suck it

by DFARowand on Mar 9, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but that’s what he says about everything. I once asked him how many licks it takes to get to the middle of a Tootsie Roll Pop. I was not satisfied with his solution.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I at least

suggest that Rowand be DFA’d…?

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Then I can suggest that you be DP'd

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Mar 9, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, no.

This falls under the “only I get to hit my little brother” clause. It’s okay for a Giants fan to say that, but if you do it, we’re honor bound to take you out behind the bike racks and beat the snot out of you.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 9, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Just GTFO

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 9, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandoval seems to have improved his selectivity. Whether that’s his own doing or not, I do not know, but his approach does seem to be better than it used to be. Plus, he really is that special hitting talent that can make contact on any ball.

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitch selectivity

I wonder if he has gained knowledge of the strike zone or he realized that as the only offensive force on the Giants teams would be avoiding him so he took more BB’s

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably a little of both. All I can tell you is he put up a career high walk rate last year despite being at a higher level than his previous seasons, and compared to his brief initial stint in MLB the previous year, he’s reduced his O-swing%, increased his z-swing%, but pitchers are throwing him less pitches in the zone and less first pitch strikes in general.

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That makes sense

it’s frustrating watching this team because they only guy that can take a walk can hit almost any pitch and the rest of the guys who can’t really hit can’t take a walk. Pablo is an absolute joy to watch though.

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It's true

His walk rate more than tripled from 2008 to 2009, and he swung less often at pitches outside the strike zone and more often at pitches inside the strike zone.

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This

Is why I feel so good about Sandoval.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: best player

Nah. There’s also that one that your delusional GM said you don’t have, “yet”.

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Mar 9, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s clearly your best player

Tim Lincecum says “hi”

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by Goofus on Mar 9, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim says high while he is hi

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. D4P Brain fart, or just stupid?

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 9, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that it really matters,

but I was thinking about position players, not pitchers.

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Just...

put the shovel down, man. Just put it down.

by fantastical on Mar 9, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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by zenbitz on Mar 10, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately Freddy Sanchez and Mark DeRosa are unable towave right now otherwise they would say hai too!

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by say hey nation on Mar 9, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not wanted by Giants fans.

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by 49er16 on Mar 9, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Your first post didn’t bother me, but now you really are just trolling. Come on, be better than that. Or not.

Also, Ned Colleti. Unfortunately, I don’t empathize with you, because I don’t care.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't get it...

I barely have time to post on my own team’s board and not get divorced/ lose my job/ or kill someone (part of my job). How do you possibly have time to come here?

by capn on Mar 9, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny's sagging tits are pretty remarkable.

Plus your GM kind of sucks too. A lot.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Mar 9, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I know someone else who sucks a lot!

by speckops on Mar 9, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned Colletti

is a double agent, planted and controlled by Brian Sabean.

by D4P on Mar 9, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned Colletti

lives in the shadow of Brian Sabean and, for a GM, that’s pretty fucking embarassing.

by fantastical on Mar 9, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

And the plan will continue to work perfectly as long as there’s battery life in the microchip

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by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 6:35 AM PST up reply actions  

AB: 527
AVG: .311
OBP: .368
SLG: .509
HR: 21
Slays dragons: Yes

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by tedfordfan on Mar 9, 2010 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

AB 572
AVG .330
OBP .387
SLG .556
HR 25

AB 555
AVG .338
OBP .411
SLG .582
HR 30
RBI “The kid can mash, but I’d like to see him rack up a few more ribbies this year. He’s no Bengie yet.” —Bruce Bochy
GLASSES Awesome

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Mar 9, 2010 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

2009 stats at top
2010 projection at bottom

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Mar 9, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

can one be a Velezbian without being a lesbian?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

No.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

wait

what if your’!@e a dude?

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by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you’d have to be Eugaynio.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Pablo carries a murse

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by hairball on Mar 9, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

well, i’m in his camp (Velez), although not in a sexual fashion

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

What does this camp believe in?

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

this camp believes that he can be part of a productive bench, including Lewis and Bowker.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

this camp hopes believes that he can be part of a productive bench, including Lewis and Bowker.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm…I don’t think I’ll be joining this camp. He definitely could be part of a productive bench, but I think there are other players I’d rather have on the bench. Also, I fear Bochy starting him and hitting him leadoff?

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 9, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

but he’s not particularly good at anything.

Bowker has some pop.
Lewis has some OBP
Torres seems like he’s a good outfielder and I trust him on the bases more than Eugenio

Some might say that Velez has versatility but just because you can play a bunch of positions poorly doesn’t mean you have value.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 9, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

the key to Velez still lies in his potential; he’s made marked improvement since first arriving here. At 31, it’s doubtful that Torres will ever do anything, has trouble staying healthy, and his numbers so far are pretty close to what Velez has done, and Velez is four years younger (27).

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally I'm not a fan of Velez

I think Torres has better defense (but I will concede that he is easily replaceable) but I can’t see Velez ever being a legitimate ML hitter

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

he needs to learn to lay off the low and way breaking ball (like most players), but when he makes contact, the ball really jumps off his bat, so I’d like to see what happens with him this year. Plus, there’s the vroom.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Velez is a joke

at least Torres is really really really good defensively. Velez has no talent.

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

anyone with mlb experience has talent, even Walter Alston.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

but you know what I mean. Velez is not worth very much to an MLB team. Torres has a skill that he’s really good at, Velez doesn’t.

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with bondslegend.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

How did it feel to say that?

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I had to wash my shirt after. But I’m not completely convinced that the two were related.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Velez has no talent.

VROOOOOOOOOM!

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by djp4cal on Mar 9, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Even that isn't very valuable right now

because he can’t utilize it in for steals and his weird batting stance makes it hard for him to beat out infield hits

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And the fact that he can’t really get on base.

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by djp4cal on Mar 9, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That too

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Or play baseball very well

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

And that

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Or not look like Zorak

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

That’s mildly entertaining

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You think Torres has better defense? I wouldn’t exactly say that it’s a matter of opinion.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

True

poor word choice on my part

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

tough to play defense when yer on the dl

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Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Torres wasn't on the DL that much last year IIRC

and even if he was, like I said before he’s pretty replaceable-This year we could probably call up McBryde and not notice much of a drop off

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by Gobroks on Mar 9, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

More opinions

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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, handsome counts in baseball

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 574
AVG: .333
OBP: .381
SLG: .566
HR: 27

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by wjackalope on Mar 9, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

Pablo
AB: 600
AVG: .337
OBP: .425
SLG: .585
HR: 30

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by Little Napoleon on Mar 9, 2010 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 572
AVG: .334
OBP: .406
SLG: .578
HR: 29
RBI: 102
SB: 10
All-Star: yes
Rectumface as an all-star: No
Games at 3B: 145
Games at 1B: 17

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by Speedforthewin on Mar 9, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

My prediction: Awesomeness

Here’s hoping for a batting title for Pablo in ‘10. MVP is probably out of the question because Pujols is so ungodly good, but I think it’s pretty amazing to think that if he WASN’T being blocked by one of the top 5-10 all time hitters, you’d have to consider our Panda one of the top contenders for that award in the NL this year too. Maybe he’d be a little behind Hanley, Utley, and Braun, but not by much…

AB: 570 (knock wood cuz an injury would be the only thing to dampen my hopes)
AVG: .339
OBP: .385
SLG: .565
HR: 31
All Star- yes… Starter- yes, unless David Wright bounces back to his old self or the NY fans get super homerish on us.

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by Smoke on the Water on Mar 9, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

And then Charlie Manuel selects the Phillie Phanatic over Pablo

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 9, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think you can give an MVP award to Utley or Braun over Pablo. Braun and (especially) Utley are both parts of far more potent lineups that help them out a lot.

by fantastical on Mar 9, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Utley also plays fantastic defense.

by speckops on Mar 9, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

At a position not known for offense too.

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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but can you really give an MVP award in good faith to the guy who bats in front of Werth/Howard/Ibanez?

I mean, Aurilia put up MVP style numbers once, but he hit in front of Bonds and Kent.

by fantastical on Mar 9, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

I think it’s somewhat ridiculous to give someone a bonus in the MVP race because his team does well/makes the playoffs, but now you want to PENALIZE someone because his team does well?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Aurilia put up really great numbers only once (2001) even though he was still batting in front of Bonds and Kent a bunch of other seasons. Utley has put up really great numbers pretty much every season.

by speckops on Mar 10, 2010 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

What does once matter? MVP is a one year performance award. It isn’t meant to be predictive of future success.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Mar 10, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but can you really give an MVP award in good faith to the guy who bats in front of Werth/Howard/Ibanez?

Because first, lineup protection doesn’t seem to actually be a significant factor that affects a guys performance (if you judge performance correctly), and second, because Utley is a lot better than any of those guys. It should be more like they get to bat behind Chase Utley than he gets to bat in front of them.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

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by Natto on Mar 10, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, Aurilia put up MVP style numbers once, but he hit in front of Bonds and Kent.

Today we learn about key words.

In addition, I believe that Utley protects Howard, even though he bats first. Howard is much easier to pitch to than Utley.

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by say hey nation on Mar 10, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Howard is much easier to pitch to than Utley.

Yep, plus Howard/Weth is a scary proposition when someone is already on base ahead of them, which is like….all the time with Utley! But seriously, Utley’s the best hitter in the loaded Phillies lineup, AND he plays gold glove D at 2B. What more could you want from a guy? Can’t say I enjoy the Phillies all that much, but I love me some Chase Utley. (I also like Rollins for being an East Bay guy. Come to think of it, I don’t mind Werth, and kind of like Hallday, maybe I will start to like the Phillies a bit more! If it wasn’t for that damn Victorino….)

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, Aurilia put up MVP style numbers once, but he hit in front of Bonds and Kent.

The guy who hit behind Aurilia hit 73 home runs that year. That’s a pretty good reason for Aurilia to not win the MVP.

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by groug on Mar 10, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think you can give an MVP award to Utley or Braun over Pablo. Braun and (especially) Utley are both parts of far more potent lineups that help them out a lot.

Braun, fine, but this is ridiculous to include Utley in this. Utley is one of the very best players in all of baseball. To play gold glove D at a middle infield spot while still hitting the way he does puts him in a class with only Pujols, Mauer, and Hanley, the clear cut 4 best position players in baseball. Utley deserves it for no other reason than he’s been completely screwed by the voters (hasn’t finished higher than 7th in MVP voting despite being the second best player of the last 3-5 years), while watching his much worse teammates get it instead of him. Chase Utley is an amazing baseball player.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

/yup

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by bondslegend on Mar 10, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Um, I think there’s some embedded assumptions here on both sides.

Is the most valuable player the one who, when placed on hypothetical Team Average, contributes the most to their being Team Champions, or is the most valuable player the one who makes the highest profile contribution to a contending team?

I’m pretty sure most of you are arguing with the former assumption, and most of the MVP voters are arguing for the latter. If that’s true, fantasical’s point makes a little more sense than he’s getting credit for. Pablo isn’t as valuable as Utley in a vacuum by any stretch of the imagination (as much as I love Pablo); but relative to the other Giants hitters, Pablo is a much bigger linchpin in our offense. Giants offense without Pablo = worst offense in baseball. Phillies offense without Utley = still above average offense.

It isn’t my way of thinking, but there’s a whole gaggle (herd? bevy? flock?) of actual voters who do seem to think that way.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess my real point is using that logic on Utley seems to undermine an understanding of just how good Chase Utley is, evidenced by his highest MVP finish being 7th place. I’m not even arguing against the logic of that thought process, just objecting to how it’s somehow managed to knock Utley out of MVP consideration (yet somehow it doesn’t have that affect on his teammates…).

If the end result is Utley not being in legitimate consideration for an MVP award on a consistent basis (at least based for the last 5 seasons), then there is something horribly flawed with the process.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The process is flawed? Well, you certainly aren’t wrong there.

I’m just not willing to knock somebody having a different idea of what the MVP is supposed to mean. The whole award thing is so darn subjective anyway, I just don’t see the point.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Mar 10, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

BA: .336
OBP: .391
SLG: .593
HR: 29

by AmorVincitOmnia on Mar 9, 2010 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

This feels nice to type

AB: 599
BA: .333
OBP: .381
SLG: .543
HR: 24

Nobody likes money

by fwoty oz on Mar 9, 2010 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

BA: .342
OBP: .398
SLG: .580
HR: 30

All-Starzzzzz!!!!!!!

by Hobbes2d on Mar 9, 2010 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 597
AVG: .327
OBP: .399
SLG: .577
HR: 33

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

I think he will regress a little, just based on the fact that im having a bad day, so

Avg: .315
OBP: .355
Slg: .554
HR: 27

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!

by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 9, 2010 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

still good

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by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh definetly

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!

by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 9, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he turns in a great walk rate

For this team, I mean

PA: 600
AVG: .310
OBP: .370
SLG: .550
HR: 25
Defense: -6 UZR at third

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Mar 9, 2010 6:33 PM PST reply actions  

Sandoval

AB 590
AVG .323
OBP .406
SLG .599
HR 22

by BooRadley2785 on Mar 9, 2010 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

Oh Yeah

AB: 567
AVG: .337
OBP: .397
SLG: .607
HR: 27

Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.

by kbsofaraway08 on Mar 9, 2010 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

Could somone please sandblast my eyes now?

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by bondslegend on Mar 9, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re one step closer to becoming a furry site.

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by Natto on Mar 9, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Do we not allow furries?

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!

by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 9, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

one step and 100 to 180 days away…

Panda gestation/mating is very very unique. Fortunate for them not many exist so they don’t get dissected alive and pregnant…yet

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by say hey nation on Mar 9, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

And then the dream will be complete.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, wow.

FREE BUSTER POSEY
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by djp4cal on Mar 9, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

clearly, these are wild pandas

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by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Panda’s Gone Wild?

FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.

by djp4cal on Mar 9, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I just can't do this

Something about all of your projections is making me uncomfortable. You’re all jinxing him, and you don’t even know it! JINXING HIM!

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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm...

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by victor frankenstein on Mar 9, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Jinx?

Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.

by kbsofaraway08 on Mar 9, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought your logo was a red sox—TROLL!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Um… No

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Mar 10, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

grilled asparagus

…was ph-fuckinomenal

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

awesome

glad we could help.

what did you end up doing to it?

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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I marinated it for 1/2 hour with lemon, olive oil, garlic, sea salt, soy sauce, balsamic vinegar, and hungarian paprika. The lemon was from Meyer lemons, so kind of mild. Grilled them in a cast iron pan for 6 minutes total. I was gobbling them up so fast, it was like eating french fries.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

"what did you end up doing to it?"

Eating it, I hope

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by Gobroks on Mar 10, 2010 12:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm getting in on this late

… but I don’t care. Asparagus is my favorite. It’s the only vegetable that you can add olive oil, salt and pepper, and have a delicious side. I had it tonight with salmon and rice. That’s another thing… it’s good as a side to almost any dish. Just not tacos… trust me.

by BooRadley2785 on Mar 9, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m officially a convert. I always steamed it, chilled with mayo, but I’ll probably never have it that way again.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the only vegetable that you can add olive oil, salt and pepper, and have a delicious side.

Broccoli.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

this

also cheese

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by bondslegend on Mar 10, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

so awesome with cheese.

FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.

by djp4cal on Mar 10, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Dumb bondslegend is dumb

Duh. Cheese isn’t a vegetable.

;-)

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by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you taking my picture?

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by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

laughing

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

But I’m very particular about being able to taste the natural flavors of my vegetables. Most vegetables are actually rather sweet naturally, and I honestly enjoy the fresh, sugary snap of a raw vegetable. The farther away you get from that state, to me, the worse you make it. Asparagus is one of the few that benefits from some honest to goodness cooking (onions being another, though I won’t knock the deliciousness of a good, raw onion). Most vegetables just need a few minutes of boiling in unsalted water to taste awesome.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Unsalted? Why not just steam them then? Less vitamins lost to the water…

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 10, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be better. I was just thinking of the quickest, least cook-intensive way to do it I could imagine. Putting them in boiling water really only does take a minute or two. And also, I hate salted water. Blech. It makes everything taste bad.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

So you cook pasta in unsalted water? That is crazy talk.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually do. To me, even lightly salted water just makes food taste like saltwater. And I’ve never felt like something tasted bland when I left the salt out, so I just don’t bother.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Pasta water is supposed to taste like the sea… a hundred generations of my ancestors repudiate you.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 10, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying that my way is right. I’m just saying that it’s right for me.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I like it, so FU.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

can’t go to right with asparagus, though; not woody enough

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 10, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I just want to say, I was scrolling through the site, and came across the following headline:

Russell Martin Pulls Groin, Out 4-6 Weeks

Now, I already knew this, but seeing SBNation advertise it on McC’s front page made me smile. Suck it, Russell Martin.

by Missing Barry on Mar 9, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

suck it, Russell

suck your injured groin.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 9, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Russell Martin Pulls Groin Out

Sucks on it 4-6 weeks.
Reattaches super-hydrated groin.
Injures it getting dropped at home plate by Eugenio Velez.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Mar 9, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This just in: Russell Martin strains neck,

claims it was from “constantly sucking it.”

by speckops on Mar 9, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

When exactly did the “Suck it, Russell Martin” start?? and why??

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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by SFGuy on Mar 9, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Possibly May 22, 2007...All-Star Ballot

I expect he started sucking it during the 17th round of the 2002 draft, however.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Mar 9, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i just like the sound of it….suckitrussellmartin

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Mar 9, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It really just floats off the keys. It’s like a work of art that stays new and exciting no matter how many times it is reproduced.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Mar 10, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

First recorded usage...

…is by Grant in this post (the 2007 AS ballot, as iammclovin said).

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by EliminateMe on Mar 10, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Babip: high, but he’s posted ridiculously high numbers throughout the minors. Probably a bit of regression, especially for a guy his size. However, LD% should come up, so maybe that’ll offset it.
HR/FB: not ridiculous. In fact, for a guy with his power, probably a bit low.
So I’m going to say the BA drops a bit and he provides a few more souvenirs.

AB: 570
AVG: .320
OBP: .375
SLG: .565
HR: 32

I’m tempted to up the slugging a bit, but he’s probably not capable of a .260 ISO. Yet.

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by beat_la_25 on Mar 9, 2010 10:32 PM PST reply actions  

Why all the actual analysis? Statistics don’t apply to Pablo, he just does whatever the fuck he wants! He’s that good.

by Missing Barry on Mar 10, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

avg: .323
obp: .384
slg: .564
hr: 27

Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 PM PST reply actions  

also, i need a quick history lesson here. what do the 1985 Cardinals have to do with this?

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by beat_la_25 on Mar 9, 2010 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

Let there be DINGERZ:
AB: 575
AVG: .346
OBP: .401
SLG: .599
HR: 38

by Scottsdale on Mar 10, 2010 6:08 AM PST reply actions  

I would crap myself if he hit that many

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by bondslegend on Mar 10, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

We're going to hold you to that

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 10, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

bondslegend

aka Jeff Passan

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 10, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah. bondslegend’s articles tend to be darker and with a more robust bouquet than Passan’s.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

bondslegend

aka Tim Brown?

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

One bondslegend

one cup

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by Goofus on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

AB: 568
AVG: .321
OBP: .369
SLG: .575
HR: 27
Defense: Continues to improve and dazzle.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 10, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

That throw to the plate he made against the Mariners was absolutely amazing.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 10, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 601
AVG: .309
OBP: .368
SLG: .577
HR: 37

by malarky on Mar 10, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

Will walk over 100 times

AB 601
Ave . 330
OBP .478
Slg .578
HR 35

by nogooddeed on Mar 10, 2010 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

jeez

they’re just getting higher and higher.

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by bondslegend on Mar 10, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Fixed

GIDP: 100+

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 10, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

.343/.420/.626 (some intentional walks as the only feared bat in the lineup boost the OBP)
34 HRs
Fans vote the Panda into starting NL All Star lineup. Screw Charlie Manuel!

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Mar 10, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

I too am wondering

if this is the year the league starts putting Pablo on rather than pitch to him. Of course, if he comes up with the bases empty most of the time…

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 10, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

.362/.363/.630

Number of times he’s referred to as “Pedro”: 37

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by thehavenot on Mar 10, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

LOLOBP

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by bondslegend on Mar 10, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

.337/.382/.600

Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.

by SneakToBetterSeats on Mar 11, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

The more stats I predict, the more likely I get soemthing right, like CS or SF-

AB: 517
R: 77
H: 159
2B: 35
3B: 2
HR: 25
RBI: 88
AVG: .308
BB : 42
HBP: 5
SF: 7
OBP: .361
SLG: .528
OPS: .889
SB: 5
CS: 4

by koel on Mar 13, 2010 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

AB: 550
AVG: .333
OBP: .400
SLG: .590
HR: 33

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1. A five-headed monster that turns grown men's legs into jelly.

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