McCovey Chronicles "fans" can't stand it
To prove how hateful and unappreciative the misanthropes at McCovey Chronicles are, I just did a search for "Bengie Molina" on this site. Knowing that Molina (who all MCC manthropes despise) had a great game today in Scottsdale, I wanted to see how many so-called Giants fans on this site actually had something positive to say about Molina (or Brian Sabean, for that matter, who re-signed Molina).
The "Bengie Molina" search returned the following stats:
- 114 Stories
- 189 Fan Posts
- 54 Fan Shots
- 2,229 Comments
That's a total of 2,586 hits. And guess what? Not one single word about today's heroics. Surprise, surprise, surprise, Seargent Carter. Them's crickets chirping.
So let me be the first (and probably ONLY) true Giants fan on this site who will give Brian Sabean, Bengie Molina and Juan Uribe the props they deserved today:
- Bengie Molina went 3-for-3 today with 2 RBI and a home run. (Buster Posey, by the way, was 0-for-2 and continues to seek his first hit of the spring.)
- Juan Uribe belted a towering 2-run bomb to left today and finished with 3 RBI.
- Brian Sabean re-signed Uribe and Molina this past off-season. True story.
- The Giants are 3-0 and have the best record in baseball right now.
Yes, I know. It's spring training. The games don't count. The hitters are ahead of the pitchers. The Arizona air is dry. Blah blah blah. Just admit it, MCC haters. You can't stand it when Sabean looks right and you look wrong.
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Uhh
1. Going 3-3 in a spring training game does not qualify as “heroics”. That’s absurd.
2. If you go to the gameday thread after Bengie’s HR, there’s someone who posts “B $$$” and a gif of Bengie’s head on some fat dude riding a bike. That’s pretty typical of this site, and stuff that doesn’t show up when you search for “Bengie Molina”. No one is going to post, “I particularly enjoyed that Bengie Molina home run”.
3. This is a waste of my time and I’m going to sleep.
by scotterduder on Mar 6, 2010 2:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I agree with this. Although Bengie gets a lot of abuse in fan shots and fan posts, we’re all Giants fans, and he gets lots of love during game day threads when he does something well. There’s nothing wrong with seeing all the warts in his game, and wanting the team to move on, especially when the best prospect you have plays the same position. Whether fair or not, Bengie is going to take the heat because we feel management made the wrong decision.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Mar 6, 2010 4:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Obviously
the incredibly unequal sample sizes here carry about as much weight as going 3-3 in a spring game, but just for fun:
Bengie Molina: 1 walk every 25.8 PA’s
Tim Lincecum: 1 walk every 16.8 PA’s.
BUT BENJI MONLIA HITZ MAD DINGERZ AND MAKES RUN BATTED INZ.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
are these drunk too?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 6, 2010 6:40 AM PST up reply actions

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on Mar 6, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fantastic!
And I killed a man with a trident!
Please explain why I should take this post seriously.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
yes
but how did he handle the pitchers?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
like a cast iron skillet...
and heavy…
like a cast iron skillet…
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
by j14 on Mar 6, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
And round
Well, you get the picture
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
...with bacon fat?
Plotting the ultimate demise of Gore51 (never met him, I dunno he could be swell) so as to adopt Kyle Nicholson.
"I don’t know much about sabre-stats but there’s nothing better than white tea and poptarts first thing in the morning" - tk
by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Mar 6, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
Agree
Using the word “misanthrope”: it takes one to know one/many.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Mar 6, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
not misanthrope
MANTHROPE. McCovenites are manthropes.
And Know it alls
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Mar 6, 2010 11:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
McCovey Chronicles“fans”“Know-It-Alls” can’t stand it
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
And Know it alls
Do you say “Run batted ins”? NO! It’s runs batted in. And it should be knows it all! Plural! This site is full of knows it all! I did a search, and not once did it come up, except when I corrected somebody once sometime. When will people start wising up and listening to me? Haters.
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
No, it’s “know it alls”. “Know it all” is an expression, which is then pluralized to indicate more than one, so the s goes at the end, while “run” in “runs batted in” is the noun, so that’s pluralized.
Yep.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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‘Walrus Men’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 8, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Mods
can I please call this person a fucking idiot? Pleaasssee?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
*wink wink*
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Pretty sure it’s not. Based on some of the comments I saw on his website, which honestly, looks like he finds links here and posts them there.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 6, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Not like there's many people reading the site though
- of comments on most recent posts:
0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 4! , 1, 19 more zeroes
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
If it was satire
it’s really not that brilliant.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
If it was satire
It definitely was brilliant, because it was so well done it made people want to call him a fucking idiot.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I guess..
is that the criteria for brilliant satire?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
How does King Missile show their admiration for the pornographer Martin Scorcese?
HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS!
HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS!
IF I EVER MEET HIM I’M GONNA GRAB HIS FUCKING NECK AND JUST SHAKE HIM AND SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR MAKING SUCH EXCELLENT MOVIES
THEN I’D TWIST HIS NOSE ALL THE WAY THE FUCK AROUND
AND THEN RIP OFF ONE OF HIS EARS AND THROW IT
LIKE A…LIKE A…LIKE A FUCKING FRISBEE
I WANNA CHEW HIS FUCKING LIPS OFF AND GRAB HIS HEAD AND SUCK OUT ONE OF HIS EYES AND CHEW ON IT AND SPIT IT OUT IN HIS FACE
AND SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR FUCKING FILMS
THEN I’D PICK HIM UP BY THE HAIR AND SWING HIM OVER MY HEAD A FEW TIMES
AND THROW HIM ACROSS THE ROOM AND KICK ALL HIS FUCKING TEETH IN AND THEN STOMP ON HIS FACE 40 OR 50 TIMES
CUZ HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS! HE MAKES THE BEST FUCKING FILMS I’VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!
I LOVE HIM! I FUCKING…LOVE HIM!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 7, 2010 2:36 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the best satire is that which is nearly indistinguishable from the thing the person is mocking; you want to be so close that it seems like something the group you are making fun of would do, but just off enough that people can recognize how ridiculous it is if they pay attention.
I guess that's true
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
ESAD
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 6, 2010 9:01 AM PST reply actions
Please also DIAF
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 6, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
It's spring training. The games don't count.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Or lose you...
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 6, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
I like Uribe.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 6, 2010 9:26 AM PST reply actions
I did not disagree with his re-signing. I had hoped he would stay with the team.
Molina, on the other hand. . . .
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I have one data points. From this one data point I will draw a wave with unknown wavelength and amplitude.
It’s science.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Buster Posey can't even hit in Spring Training!!
its time for him to keep the bench warm..
but in all seriousness its spring training who cares
When uribe did well there were some URIBE comments and besides I may be wrong but I don’t remember there being a huge freakout when Uribe got signed (yes there was when Bengie got resigned) but in all honesty I didn’t hate the Uribe signing, I liked it and wanted Uribe back but at the right price.
Also we’ve only played 3 games and again:
Yes, I know. It’s spring training. The games don’t count.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
ummm
Okay. I want the last 10 seconds of my life back.
If this is satire, then you are really bad at it.
If you hate the ‘fans’ McCovey Chronicles so much, quit posting here, you fuckin’ troll.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
keep in mind that Bengie is traditionally a quick starter
but than tails off as the season goes on… that’s what happens when you’re an obese, 30 something year old catcher. In 2007 Bengie was hitting .307 through the first two months of the season, but he ended up hitting .276 for the year. In 2008 Bengie was hitting .328 after two months, and ended up hitting .292 (still a good average, but a dropoff nonetheless.) In 2009, Bengie was hitting .310 with 7 homeruns after the first 27 games of the season. He ended up at .265 with 20 homeruns.
While I’m not as big as a Bengie hater as most people on MCC, and I give him props for having a good day yesterday, putting any value into one Spring Training game this early in the year is completely moronic. And are you really going to make fun of Posey for not having a hit in 4 ab’s? What’s next, are you gonna write off Lincecum for having an 18 e.r.a in 1 inning?
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Mar 6, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions
you’d think maybe the brasz would take a look at that and GIVE THE MAN MORE REST… but …nooooooooooooooo. He might get his widdle feewings hert.
Well, and now you’ll affect his paycheck, too. So he’ll be butt-hurt and wallet-hurt. That particular incentive was a bad idea.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
And at the same time Posey’s a slow starter. I remember when he adjusted to AAA pitching. Took him a few weeks, but before he was called up, he was raking it. THE definition of SSS =/
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 6, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
MCCOVEY YOURE LOSIN ME!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Has anyone checked out this dude's website?
Apparently he is a former radio station sports reporter and has just started this blog. I found the guidelines for posting to be really interesting!
Guidelines for posting
I do allow posts to go up instantly. Please don’t make me have to start screening posts by being a jerk. Trolling, flaming, or baiting others won’t be tolerated. It’s easy to get emotional when talking about the Giants (and, especially, when talking about the Dodgers), but inflammatory statements will not be tolerated.
Reading his most recent post,
I realized that this is definitely not satire.
Dear 22g,
If there’s anything in this world that you can truly believe in, it’s this:
Buster Posey>>>>>>>Everyone else in baseball>>>>>>>Bengie Molina
goGSW24
The problem with all of this is, is that he is getting hits on his websites for acting like an ass.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 6, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
That occurred to me as well… why I thought it was interesting that he does not allow baiting or trolling, yet that is exactly what he did to increase traffic on his shitty blog
That occurred to me as well… why what I thought it was interesting that he does not allow baiting or trolling, yet that is exactly what he did to increase traffic on his shitty blog
I counted 6 comments on his 24 posts on the main page
.I think there’s a reason why he’s a former radio station reporter.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
LOL radio station reporter
The equivalent of a radio intern getting coffee
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
HAHAHA!
I was an intern for XX Sports Radio in San Diego and that is EXACTLY what i did every morning for the Scott and BR show. Got coffee.
Only difference is I didn’t go around saying I was a reporter.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Only difference is I didn’t go around saying I was a reporter.
Well, you should have.
You could’ve come out with a made up title and a shitty blog. Praise be to Bengie!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
You interned at a sports radio station? Arent you like 13? I didn’t realize they looked for middle school interns.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
No, see, you made the same mistake I did. The 13 year old is Mike FOX, and this is Mike HAWK. I kept wondering why the guy who previously made idiotic fanposts that everyone laughed at was now so lucid.
ohhhhhhhh
I was wondering that too. “Everyone seems to have warmed up to that kid suddenly.”
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
LOL I made the same mistake the other day
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
It’s all good…I was here first! Just wasn’t as much of a troll to get noticed as much as Fox
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Fox is just 13. He’s got a lot to learn still.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 7, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Most 13 year olds are stupid
I’m pretty sure I was when i was 13.
I’m certain the majority of my students are stupid.
It just comes with the age.
But, of course Merope is correct. 13 year olds are also huffy and self-conscious.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Because they are in junior high. Possibly the most miserable part of most people’s lives.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Especially for boys.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
I cant really speak for girls, but god. That is just a bad, bad place.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
+1000
What a waste of two years. Blargh.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 7, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
3 years. For me at least. But 7th grade is kind of a blur.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 7, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
4 here!
But I homeschooled for half, so it doesn’t really count
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Mike Fox is like 13
Mike Hawk is not (I don’t think)
I keep confusing the two… sorry Hawk
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
To avoid confusion, I think Hawk should start telling everyone he’s 13, say all kinds of dumb things, and rosterbate continually. That’ll just make it easier for us all.
THINK OF US FIRST, HAWK!!!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Whenever Mike Fox would post, I would find myself trying to sound it out: “my … cfocks? I don’t get it.”
I don’t know about this Fox character, but Mike Hawk is just as old as the rest of me.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 8, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
My personal favorite is how 22gigantes hasn’t made a single comment on his own fanpost, even as people continue to rip him for being an idiot heavily misguided.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Is commenting on your own post a prerequisite?
People do post, get on with other aspects of life and not come back to it for awhile.
I don’t personally know any of them, but then again I personally don’t know anyone.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 6, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
This kind of fanpost neglect certainly does happen. In my experience, it happens in exactly these kinds of circumstances: some troll/misanthrope makes a condescending post about how the members of this blog are “fucking idiots” and then goes to great length to detail why. When the “fucking idiot” members of this blog post their – mostly cogent – rebuttals, the original poster is nowhere to be found. What a stratagem!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 7, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Playing "radio station" with a walkie talkie doesn't count!
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
says his name is
Troy Nelson. (i have never heard of.)
by Lunatic Fridge on Mar 6, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
GIS'd it and it came up with Troy Nelson KEXP

If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
my favorite part of his website
The headline “Sanchez could be headed to DL.” The story is dated 3/3/10.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Wait…he’s actually happy Posey’s not playing? He’s like the next McCann or 2008 Soto…plus he’s not a hacker.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 6, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions
but but yesterday he swung at the first pitch and hit a fly ball to right!!
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey
The atmosphere of the GIants sucks. Bench the rookie and play the vet. Even if he sucks. and Even if the rookie is raking. Same thing happened to Bowker; mashed and raked in the walks in AAA and got called up. Then he tried to be Barry Bonds so he could start more…and then failed.
I get it that there’s a hierarchy or what not in baseball, but it crumbles when “rookies” like Posey or Bowker are ready.
this was a reply to no one in particular…
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 6, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Gerald is one of the most balanced hitters I’ve seen in a while
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Everyone's opinions are valid...
…some are just more valid than others.
Hell, just take this as a positive. Posey will start the year in the minors and hopefully avoid Super Two status. Pleasantly ignore the fact that playing Bengie over Posey makes the team worse in the interim.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Yes this is pretty much like the only real reason why Posey shouldn’t play. But if he turns out to be Lincecum-status, then pay him his money. I hate reading how Molina is quite possibly the best catcher SF has ever had
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 6, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
You know the more I think about it, the more this might not make sense. The Giants are paying Bengie $4.5 (possibly $6.5) million this year to postpone Posey’s super two status. Since $1 today > $1 tomorrow, Posey would have to make more in two years than Bengie makes this year for the trade off to work.
True, there are a lot of other factors, which I will conveniently ignore (such as the effect of Posey’s Super Two salary on his remaining arb years and any difference in production between Bengie and Posey this year). But assuming a 3% discount rate, Posey would have to earn > $4.8 (Bengie only makes $4.5 this year) or > $6.9 million as a Super Two.
In 2009, the average Super Two salary for that year was $1.7mm (multi year deals for Super Two eligible players in 2009 was $3mm). Even if you factor in a rising salary number, if Posey performs in line with the average Super Two player he should make less than the break even numbers above.
Now hopefully, Posey goes apeshit and wins an MVP or two (all Giants rookies win coveted awards their first two full seasons, right?) and commands much more in arbitration. But it looks like from a $ saving point of view keeping Bengie instead of Posey doesn’t make sense. So the move doesn’t make baseball or financial sense. Awesome. Way to impress, Sabean.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Mar 6, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I got the 2009 Super Two arbitration numbers here.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Mar 6, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe it's not clear...
HE’S NOT READY!!!
NEEDZ MOAR SEASONING!!!
CANT’T CATCH MLB PITCHING UNTIL HE HAS CAUGHT MLB PITCHING!!!
I prefer oregano
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 6, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
herbes de provence
more versatility
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 6, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Or...
Yes it sucks that you are going to kill my first-born son, but at least I will have one less mouth to feed.
More or less what I was going for. You definitely took it to another level, though.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Mar 6, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
LOL “Buster Posey continues to seek his first hit of the Spring”
he’s had 4 AB.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
what a loser
no hits in four at bats – better DFA him ASAP
by crazedcrustacean on Mar 6, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I wrote this post a year ago...
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/4/8/827507/appreciating-benjie-now
So I’m entitled to rip on him now.
this will surely be his last year as a Giant
Ah, I was so young and naive back then
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I can’t stand rockin when I’m n here
Cause our crystal ball aint so crystal clear
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I believe it was Bill James who said “The best way to evaluate baseball players is to look at their statistics from just one single game — especially if that is a spring training game.”
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 6, 2010 11:17 AM PST reply actions
I’m pretty sure that was Jill Bames who said that
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Amanda Beard?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Spanish Fly?
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 6, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Geez Rowand even killed that rally…
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
by Mike Hawk on Mar 6, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Actually, this was the quote I was looking for:
“What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 6, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Suntan lotion is good for me
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Is that it 22gigantes? Did the penguin tell you to do this?
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
INTERCOURSE THE PENGUIN!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 6, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
IIRC
This is the same guy that said McC was a bunch of Know it alls…but I guess his point is that 3 ST games is enough to justify a 4.5 million dollar investment.
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Mar 6, 2010 11:40 AM PST via mobile reply actions
You can’t stand it when Sabean looks right and you look wrong.
Man, my blood boils when the Giants score more than 700 runs in a season. It was hard to be around here in 2006. And more than 750 runs? Wow, that really kills me. I get so…angry. I don’t like looking stupid.
The theory is this: Bengie Molina is one of the worst hitters in baseball. My evidence is this: statz, and the fact that since he’s been a Giant, the Giants have been one of the worst offensive teams in baseball. So if he’s good, shouldn’t that show up in the number of runs the Giants score? Who is responsible for the Giants being so awful at scoring?
BANNED
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Clearly someone hasn’t been paying attention to spring training!
Other irrefutable conclusions we can draw from spring training: The Giants will be undefeated through the regular season and the Yankees will struggle to win a game.
by Seasick fish on Mar 6, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
The Giants suck at scoring because Frandsen didn't get that bunt down that one time
that was the key to the season
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
The buntings will continue
until morale improves.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 6, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
this just proves
you’re not a true fan
Bidding adieu to Rich Aurilia, for I will soon have a new baby.
Is this streaming for anyone else? I got the first pitch called and then it went to old programming.
by Seasick fish on Mar 6, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta go with Miller and Kuip, I would think.
by Seasick fish on Mar 6, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
LOL U
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 6, 2010 11:59 AM PST reply actions
Very much so. The guy knows his stuff.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Definitely!
Along those lines, what’s the over-under on F.P.’s remaining number of weeks as the host of sportsphone 680?
Well the Giants need to stop being brain dead, Caribbean, and slop hackers first.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
i blame that on Radnich
he was getting Larry all worked up about what a great job he did ripping the Giants when they deserved it, unafraid to tell it like it is, etc and i think it went to his head.
by Lunatic Fridge on Mar 6, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Giants teams since 2000 with lowest OBP:
2009: .309
2005: .319
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
I take the under. I want to give him a chance, but he is awful. Anyone who makes me think about missing Damon Bruce must be bad…
Except around 11:59 and sixty seconds
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 6, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
i listened to him for about 20 minutes
he was trying to downplay his steroid use and i just got tired of it.
i have to admit that once the season starts and i want to hear about the Giants, i might have to tune in.
by Lunatic Fridge on Mar 6, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t expect him to play it up any.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
he got "promoted"
to the 12-4 slot at 1050, or at least that’s how he characterized it…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 7, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
I've only listened to him a little
but the parts I heard weren’t terrible. Not great but I think it might have been better than Bruce.
Bidding adieu to Rich Aurilia, for I will soon have a new baby.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Mar 6, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
22GIGANTES I TOTALY AGREE WIT U THERE ARE NO GIANTS FANS ON THIS SITE EVERYONE IS SUCH A H8TER BENGIE MOLINA IS THE BEST PLAYA EVA CAUSE HE HIT 20 HRS LAST YEAR WHO ELSE ON THE GIANTS CAN DO THAT NO ONE ONLY SANDOVAL AND HE IS FAT
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 6, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
I enjoyed this very much, especially when I got to the end. Well played.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Flagged
request banhammer.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
John Bowker just hit a 3 run HR
and not one of you ungratefull bastards has made a FanShot praising him yet. You are all nothing but a bunch of haters!
The Problem
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm relatively certain that the person in that pic is not Fred Lewis
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!?!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
That was particularly stupid
Some of the people here are womanthropes.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
It’s spring training. The games don’t count. The hitters are ahead of the pitchers. The Arizona air is dry.
Thing A
THE VERY IDEA OF IT ALL!!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
REAL giants fans love Bengie cause he’s the cleanup hitter and he’s our catcher, and a good clubhouse guy, and writes a blog.
All of you are obviously NOT the REAL Giants fans.
[/dies in the chasm]
LOOOOL
I wish this was a joke but I know this guy doesnt enjoy MCC.
And yet keeps posting here… hmm.
SPRING TRAINING HEROICS!! thanks sabes. all is forgiven.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
If ever I needed a shining example as to why I spend less and less time 'round here.
I’m sorry…but it’s bat-shit crazy posts like this that are keeping me away. Who has the time to sift through this kind of drivel?
All I want is some 1000+ comment threads about the greatness that is Rush…even though I practically want to commit myself to an asylum when I hear mention of them.
All I want is some good ol’ fashioned giantsrainman cyber-jousting. At least that dude doesn’t seem completely off his rocker. Remember, he played CF for a team in the College World Series back in the 30’s. Love ya buddy!
All I want is a few more OT: POKEMONS FTW, OT: BEER IS GOOD, OT: HOW DO YOU PREFER YOUR TUBULAR FORMED BALLPARK PORK PRODUCT? kind of threads.
Ducks stackin' wins like Leggos, toastin Pac-10 like the Eggos, like we're racin' against some preggos, Dan Patrick we enfuego.
They are both horrible
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not as horrible as Hoobastank.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 7, 2010 2:42 AM PST up reply actions
Hoobastank is the worst.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
If this isn't a joke (which I think is more likely)
Then this is the failiest fail that has ever failed.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Pretty sure it’s not a joke:
Molina was clearly the star of the game (much to the chagrin of most McCovey Chronicles contributors, I’m sure).
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 6, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
For clarification
I think it is more likely that this isn’t a joke.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I gotta admit, for all the flaws he had, I loved Money in 08. But in 09 he sucked ass (no pics for evidence), and he’s not likely to improve as he gets older. Re-signing him wouldn’t have been a terrible move for a 2-month stop gap until Posey is (financially a better bargain after the next two seasons) ready. But a 4.5 million dollar contract with plate appearance incentives with this manager is assinine.
Or in your words, I’m not a true fan because I thought this through.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Asinine
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
That’s a spell check. Not a critique of my own comment.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
You had it right the first time
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 6, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Bochy: 10 minutes after Molina sucks his ass
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Damn Pic fail
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Hey, wait...was that PacBellBoozer back there?
First E re – abides, then the PBB flashes us…some sort of MCC Old Guard reunion goin’ down?
/looks for moggeee
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 7, 2010 2:46 AM PST reply actions
I don't think it's OT
for the original poster
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 7, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
Is there a better way to start the day?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
It’s spring training, jackass. The Giants had one of the best records in the Cactus League last season. PROPS FOR THAT, GINATS BRASS
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
umm brian sabean
is a former executive of the year and so I think he has forgotten moere baseball than gramcracker useless idiot and all you othr stat nerds with your woba and babip and xfip and obs. he knows the value or rbis, you guys like to make fun of that particular stat but how else are you gonna score runs huh?
molina is a solid professional hittet and he nos how to handle the pitching staff. we are lucky to have him behind the plate instead of posey whose been catching only for like 2 years
the rest of the vetarans are gonna bounce back you guys will see… alomg with big money we have sanchez rent and rowand all of whom are solid 300 hitters ay one time in there careers soo we’re solid up the middle
hopefully velez wins the rf job so we can have a true leadoff hitter and huff is a proven rbi man in the cleanup spot
you gaiz should just leave sabean alone and let boch do his job. you saw how hw got the most out of timmy and cainer and sanchy and zitoey and joey and wilsy
we are headed for thee playoffs if we can add a couple vetran bats in here trust me
by lchristmas on Mar 7, 2010 10:02 AM PST via mobile reply actions
For sure.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 7, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Hmm, Beltran's a vetran.
Let’s bag him and “Get thee hence to thee playoffs!”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 9, 2010 5:33 AM PST up reply actions
Sweet Christmas!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Hero for Hire!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 7, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’m thinking about getting a dog.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
me too!
But not really. Our apartment is too small.
I really want a beagle.
Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.
Baby beagles seem to whine. Loud.
But, they’re awesome dogs otherwise.
The dog talk makes me miss my dumb Chow.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 7, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
My apt is too small, too. And I’m not allowed. But whatever. Most smallish dogs won’t shut up – that’s not good for the ol’ lease. I have done all the internet research I could and have decided on a whippet. Technically a medium sized dog, but they’re pretty cute and they’re supposedly calm indoors and rarely bark. Win.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
If you live in an apartment, I’d avoid a Beagle. The are really barky. They’re known for their howling.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I really like border collies too, but they also need a lot of space. Really, the only humane thing to do is wait until both my wife and I are done with school and can afford a house.
Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.
Border Collies are sometimes too smart for their own good
They’re REALLY intelligent, get bored easily and get into trouble.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Me, too! I’ll probably have to wait another year or so, but I really want a bloodhound.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I had a Coon Hound as a kid. It was mentally retarded b/c he ran full speed into a fence post while he was on the scent of a cat or something that climbed the fence. It was said to watch, but hounds are loving dogs.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
We got a couple beagles a few months ago. As a kid, I never realized how much work puppies are. It was a rude awakening for me.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
McCovey you're losing me!
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Beagles make great pets! I had one for 15 years and he was just the best, so much personality and so loyal. Just be warned that when sirens go by, they howl. A lot.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Mar 7, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions
Sorry, reply fail
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Mar 7, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, maybe we should move farther away from Richmond, first.
Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.
If this is sarcasm, this was very well-done. If not…oh, my.
Triples Alley: Analysis of the San Francisco Giants, Baseball, and Sabermetrics.
History shows that:
Former radio reporter coffee runner, who doesn’t understand the concept of sarcasm & STATZ, who has boring Giants blogsite, loves him some Bengie Molina & Brian Sabean, while having a hatred the population of McCovey Chronicles, as well as President Obama.
I believe this run-on sentence explains some of it…
He/She is basically the Bizarro version of you Anticon.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 7, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I MUST BREAK HIM.
/Drago
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HUMM BABY 4 HAITI TO HELP AID RECOVERY EFFORTS Non-profit organization announces launch
March 2, 2010 — In an endeavor to boost the worldwide relief effort for earthquake victims in Haiti, a new non-profit organization Humm Baby 4 Haiti, has been launched, along with its accompanying Web site www.hummbaby4haiti.org.
Humm Baby 4 Haiti, along with its partner organization, Partners in Health, allows people to donate online and directly support the recovery efforts in Haiti. Humm Baby 4 Haiti is planning a relief trip to the island nation later this year.
Founder Salvador Serrano, a San Francisco native and UC Davis graduate, launched this non-profit organization after being deeply affected by the devastation caused by the massive quake that struck Haiti in January. With vivid memories of the destruction from the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the Bay Area, Serrano formed Humm Baby 4 Haiti to encourage Northern Californians and baseball fans to bolster the relief efforts.
For more information, or to schedule an interview with Salvador Serrano, please call (800) 423-3950 or e-mail donate@hummbaby4haiti.org
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 7, 2010 8:16 PM PST reply actions
I kinda want to make fun of SpamBot, but I would feel like a jerk cause he is supporting Hait
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 7, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
I resisted posting hi twice, but three times was just pushing it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
HI
Hola Im sorry I didnt see it. I Have been trying to inform the critics that are well within their rights to be skeptical.
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t feel like a jerk. There’s zero need for yet another organization to raise money for Haiti. Give to DWB or Partners in Health or Red Cross or some other established org that you know isn’t going to waste your money.
Waiste Money?
Now that is a bit of a stretch. First of all we are not soliciting donations. We are selling shirts to raise money because of the people being skeptical. We are providing a physical product ( a shirt) that you get with your purchase, until we are able to secure the official federal tax designation so we can provide the tax rightoff to those who want to contribute but yes, if you feel more comfortable giving to Partners in Health or the Cross that is also wonderful. We are trying to work with the smaller organizations like Light Ministries which has been in Haiti for over 20 years and we are also working together with partners in Health. However, our mission is to aid in the rebuilding efforts later this year with habitat for humanity. However, they cannot pay for everyone so our goal is to be able to sponsor and provide those individuals that do not have the money but have the time to donate.
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Wait…you want to give to Haiti right? And you want to give as much as possible to Haiti right? So how is the overhead of producing a t-shirt not short changing Haiti? That seems like if we donate to you we would be “wasting” the 3-5 dollars it takes to make the t-shirt. If you don’t want to waste money, then why don’t you direct us to these small charities so we can donate directly?
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by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Great point matt
Matt I completely agree with you but you are not like most peopl who see it from that business point of view.
Yes the shirt will cost between 3-5 depending on teh quantity.
I could also go directly to China or India and get it for less but then we can have an entire debate about supporting local and domestic businesses versus outsourcing this out. Or you can also see that I am supporting a local small business owner while also helping Haiti, proving giants fan a shirt and getting everyone involved versus just sending a text to the Red cross and have no idea or input of what they are doing except from what the media outlets tell you or going directly to there site. However, who will do that? Not many people Matt. Though I see your points it is clear that cant see eye to eye on this and have fundamental philosophical differences. I have named the organizations but you would raise the same questions you did with mine. At least with mine you are getting a shirt to support the cause like I will with this entire baseball season. Its only spring training Matt. I am not trying to gain your support now but in time I hope that when I do get more attention from the media and when we get our IRS 501c3, then you might see us in a different light. At this time I had already anticipated the critics and the skeptics but it comes with the terrain. It took only one bad apple to ruin it for the people that are trying to do good in this world. I guess the notion of using sports might in fact backfire on me but only time will tell. Thank you for all of your constructive feedback. I hope we keep in touch. I have provided my contact information which is to the public to answer anything offline via my cell phone or email. Feel free to contact me.
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
dont be a haiti-er
Les Plack = more chicks
Yahoo FFL champ 2009
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
Chose the Saints and the under to win my bet with my ex gf...i'm on a roll.
by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 8, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
Is there a Humm Baby 4 Chile?
Sounds less snappy, but honestly…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 9, 2010 5:37 AM PST up reply actions
Now I’m confused. I’ve been reading the site for a while and thought this was a post like Grant’s early about winning the first spring training game giving us a better chance to win the world series. Which would make perfect sense if this is what he was doing. Now it’s just sad that it’s true. I wish Bengie all the luck in the world and hope he does good this year, I just wish that I was wishing (lot’s of wishes apparently) for all this to happen for the Mets and not the Giants. If he goes 3 for 3 again he’ll be the clean up hitter all year, again, which isn’t a good thing.
Response to Scam/ Spambot
1. You are absolutely correct. At this time we do not have the 501c(3) tax exemption status which should be awarded by the start of the baseball season. However, due to this fact we do not have the ability to solicit or accept donations, so at this time we are ONLY selling shirts to raise money in the interim. On the site you would notice that you DO NOT have the ability to donate. The only way you can donate is buy purchasing a shirt through paypal.
2. In regards to the artwork on the shirt concern, we are in no violation of intellectual property rights. There is no trademark infringement, including the humm baby which the giants let expire back in 1993.
We have done our due diligence, but I completely understand and respect your concerns. My non- profit is legitimate and has only good intentions. I believe in full transparency and I would be more than willing to email you a copy of our articles of incorporations. In addition, you will see me in person this entire baseball season. I am a season ticket holder and I will be sitting CFB 143 Row 10 Seat 7.
i understand everyone has Haiti fatigue and Chile has taken the spotlight from Haiti but this is the exact reason why I want to make sure that people don’t forget.
If you can please take the time to contact me offline and i will be more than happy to answer any questions or suggestions you may have. here is my personal email and once you email me I will provide you my personal cell phone number. In addition I will be in San Francisco Wednesday 3/10- Sunday March 21 and would be more than happy to meet anyone in person.
Thank you.
Sal
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 7:42 AM PST reply actions
Hey buddy, what is this relief mission you planning? Baseballs for everyone? Water for everyone? Why would I donate to you, who would have a much higher overhead in actually getting to Haiti as opposed to UNICEF, The Red Cross or numerous other entities who are already there?
Also for that matter, why would I donate to just Haiti? Why are they more in need? Don’t you think that these larger organization are better equipped for judging who needs help the most? (Sorry that is just a pet peeve of mine for natural disasters, I would rather donate to a charity/NPO that works in many countries and is willing to help world wide.)
I am sorry for what happened to Haiti and I hope they are able to rebound without losing many more lives. I also hope that you make a difference when you go, I just won’t be helping you go. Its like sports betting, if you have to bet on a 20-1 odds or 4-1 odds which one would you pick? I would go with the 4-1 and unfortunately for you I see you as the 20-1 odds of actually doing any good. Good luck and all the more power to you if make a difference I will be rooting for you!
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by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
Wait a minute...
Also for that matter, why would I donate to just Haiti?
Regardless of what charities you choose to support, I’m not sure this is a fair question.
If I asked someone, for example, to support my Breast Cancer Walk and they said, “Why should I donate to just breast cancer? Isn’t heart disease deserving too?” I’d think that was a pretty dickish response.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I admit it is. I was trying to say that I feel in adequate to say that Haiti needs the help more than Chile or some other natural or man made disaster (Darfur) and that I would rather than make the decision myself, defer to someone who I believe is knowledgeable and fair. I don’t know what the situation in Haiti is like, but I also don’t know anything about the situation in Chile, or Turkey. So what I was trying to say is that, yes I would donate to Haiti who am I to say they need it more? All I know is what the sensationalist media lets me know. I only mentioned it because he said “Chile has taken the spotlight from Haiti but this is the exact reason why I want to make sure that people don’t forget.”
I feel the same way about breast cancer (admittedly I have not been affected by breast cancer) but that gets into fuzzy territory b/c breast cancer research affects more than breast cancer.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
$$ is not my strong suit right now.
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by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Im sorry to hear of your financial troubles. i am in the same boat. I am unemployed and have been now for close to a year. However, I have gone back to school and found my true calling as an educator. I am passionate about teaching and have decided to become a teacher. However, I was deeply moved by the events of Haiti and decided to take action. One way or another I will make my way to Haiti. I agree with you that it will be a long and hard journey but nothing is free or easy in this life. So like a wise man said, lead , follow, or get out of the way. I have chosen to lead. No neutral positions exist. Not to act is to act by default. Most reconstructionist agree that the hottest place in hell is reserved for those in times of moral crisis remain neutral. What will you decide?
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Can you make that a reservation for two? I would like some company while I’m in hell.
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by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
LOL!!
Yes I am on the 48th level down trying to make my way back up, JEFFERSONS STYLE!!!! CUZ WERE MOVING ON UP!!!
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
i chose Haiti for all of the reasons that I have already made clear. To abandon my cause because Chile is more relevant because it just happened is just in the sense that yes they also need help but is not practical for my cause. Would I give anything to be omnipresent where I could warp from one country to one country in a blink of an eye, for sure, but Im not a superhero. Im just one man trying to make a difference in the poorest nation in the western hemisphere which just suffered a massive earthquake wiping out close to 300,000 dead. They are still pulling corpses out 2 months later. Unfortunately, I am not trying to reduce the tragic event that occurred in Chile to be less than Haiti, but for someone who seems to be putting everything into the context of business with dollars and sense lets break down. Chile to date has less than 1000 deaths to Haiti’s 300,000. The infrastructure in Haiti can we agree is not as sophisticated as Chile. Chile has throughout its history as a nation suffered these earthquakes, and in fact has the largest in history to hit their country. Not to mention that Chile has 8.5 million internet users (50% of the population) which is almost the entire country of Haiti. i bring that to your attention because that means that 8.5 million chileans have the resources to have a computer and internet and landline telephone while 80% of the population 7.6 million haitians live in poverty. So though I sympathize with Chile and there a worthy cause you tell me who needs more help?
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
We all have to make decisions on where and how we give to those in need.
Personally, I donated much more to Haiti
I quick glance at the impact made me think Haiti needs it more:
Chile death toll: 500+
Haiti death toll 200,000+
When consider that Hait iwas already probably the most poverty-stricken country in the hemisphere while Chili is a relatively prorperous country, it seemed it pretty easy.
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As I have I, despite my limited resources. I told myself I wish I can do more and I came up with HUMM BABY 4 HAITI.
I think Chile is in need but my own personal stance is that I think Haiti needs it more. Does it mean that I wont give to Chile, absolutely not. However if Habitat for Humanity gave me the choice to go to Haiti or Chile, I would have to go to Haiti based on the obvious points that you make. However, maybe it was my own ignorance to assume that was common knowledge.
We are new so I am not surprised by peoples hesitation but come opening day my hope is that this will not be the case.
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I had been right to stay out of this thread. Misanthropes? Ow.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 8, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Go Giants
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
I did too, but it turned out to be gas.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I apologize for not taking the time to make our mission clearer but I put out our press release to over 100 media outlets, including KNBR, which we are working to get on their community board. The person responsible for this at KNBR is Lyell Perry who happens to be in Arizona at the time and we are waiting fro her to get back so we can get some positive endorsements and sponsorships to avoid situations such as being considered a fraudulent charity, in which we are not.
I am a native San Franciscan, born a raised in San Francisco, who grew up on Mission and Army. Yes I said Army because as most of you know Caesar Chavez was previously named Army Street. I attended Archbishop Riordan High School, but ended up graduating from San Francisco Christian School. My mission for this charity was in response to the horrific earthquake that hit Haiti.
After hearing that many Haitians were having amputation being performed without anesthetic and that the only pain medication being given to patients was ibuprofen the last straw. I tried to volunteer my efforts to any organization to physically go to Haiti, but hey all declined. They were only taking medical personnel and would not pay for transporting anyone outside of the medical field. I was discouraged and felt defeated. However, it was only two days later when the words of a man I barely knew interrupted me when we were discussing college basketball. Connecticut had just killed Texas and I began to move away from basketball to baseball when he turned and said to me, "Sal I don’t mean any disrespect and I love sports, don’t get me wrong, but I try to avoid talking too much about it because if we only took a small percentage of the time we spend arguing, debating, and not to mention all the money, if we took that energy and shifted it in another direction, we could solve most of the worlds problems."
Those powerful words struck me like lightening. He was absolutely right. So when I got back home I started to think how I could use sports to continue to raise awareness and raise funding for smaller organization like Light Ministries, which has worked in Haiti for over 20 years. More importantly, as a native San Franciscan who experienced and survived the 1989 earthquake, tried to connect our cohort earthquake experience along with Haiti, but also use one of the most memorable years of the Giants with Hum Baby, not to mention probably the best year in Bay Area Sports. Both the Giants and the A’s were in the World Series, the 49ers won the Super Bowl, the Warriors with RUN TMC were making awesome McDonalds commercials, give me the Chris and Tim burger, not the Tim and Chris burger.
Anyway I always admired Roger Craig for what he brought to the organization and his genuine positive outlook on life. His Humm Baby attitude brought a bunch of young average players to play together and truly believe that they were going to win it all, damn candy Maldonado sliding and losing the ball in the lights in game 6, we would have killed the twins but I give him a pass because of his best superman punch that I think Jose Oquendo is still feeling this day. My point is I want to be play the roger Craig role and gather all of San Francisco and all the fans to join me o show all of baseball ad the world that were leading the way and that we haven’t forgot about Haiti. We live in a post bonds and post steroid era. I live in Chicago and they hate the giants and they hate bonds. However, it gives me no greater joy to wear a Will Clark Jersey when I walk into the unfriendly confines of Wrigley. Here is the opportunity for us to not only say we are the greatest city in the world but demonstrate it with action.
HUMM BABY
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 8:36 AM PST reply actions
Everyone quick! They don’t jsut need morepeople in Haiti, they need MOAR GIANTS FANS!
Dude, if you want my money (you wont get it anyways) I dont wont a biopic of your life. Tell me what are you going to do in Haiti and how!
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by say hey nation on Mar 8, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Now that is a bit of a stretch. First of all we are not soliciting donations. We are selling shirts to raise money because of the people being skeptical. We are providing a physical product ( a shirt) that you get with your purchase, until we are able to secure the official federal tax designation so we can provide the tax rightoff to those who want to contribute but yes, if you feel more comfortable giving to Partners in Health or the Cross that is also wonderful. We are trying to work with the smaller organizations like Light Ministries which has been in Haiti for over 20 years and we are also working together with Partners in Health. However, our mission is to aid in the rebuilding efforts later this year with habitat for humanity. However, they cannot pay for everyone so our goal is to be able to sponsor and provide those individuals that do not have the money but have the time to go.
by Humm Baby 4 Haiti on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 AM PST reply actions
I think you have already started a thread about this.
Can we please take the discussion back there? I was having so much fun making fun of 22g.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
re-remem remember that time, that time when Benji hit a heroic home run in spring training?
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That was awesome.
by WilliamVanLaunchingpad on Mar 8, 2010 9:58 AM PST reply actions
This fanpost is disappoint.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 8, 2010 12:55 PM PST reply actions
You failed to search for Benjie Molina. I think you’ll find all of our positive comments attached to that name.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
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by djp4cal on Mar 9, 2010 3:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Reply fail.
Dammit.
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