Who will make the Giants' Opening Day 25-man roster? I'll take a stab at it.
by 22gigantes on Mar 28, 2010 11:10 PM PDT
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PrintWith exactly one week to go until Opening Day, the San Francisco Giants still have 39 players in camp. That list will need to be whittled down to 25, which means Giants manager Bruce Bochy has some tough decisions to make. Enter 22gigantes.
I'm here to help Boch make the final cuts. Of course, there are the obvious ones like Matt Downs and Waldis Joaquin. But it gets kinda tough after that. Let’s take a look at what the Giants’ roster will look like on April 5.
The outfield (7)
Your Opening Day starters will be Mark DeRosa (LF), Aaron Rowand (CF) and Nate Schierholtz (RF), although John Bowker has been making a big push in spring training and could force Schierholtz into a straight platoon. Either way, Bowker is in. Andres Torres, Fred Lewis and Eugenio Velez will also make the team.
The infield (5)
First base belongs to Aubrey Huff. Utilityman Juan Uribe will be your starting second baseman. Edgar Renteria is the shortstop and Pablo Sandoval will be the Opening Day third baseman. 2B Freddy Sanchez will start the season on the disabled list, so don’t count him on your 25-man roster. Do count Travis Ishikawa, who will back up Huff at first (Huff’s sub-stellar glove demands that Ishikawa remains in San Francisco primarily as a late-inning defensive replacement). The nice thing about having Velez and DeRosa on the roster is that both players can play the infield (and, in particular, second base) to give the everyday guys (read: Uribe) the occasional rest. It’s like having seven infielders for the price of five.
Catchers (2)
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no way they carry 6 outfielders plus vroom. either velez or lewis make this team is my guess. so my vote in poll is lewis after he gets cut :(
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by operation carrot on Mar 28, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions
Since DeRosa can play all over the infield, it’s more like they’re carrying five outfielders and six infielders, one of whom happens to be starting in left.
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by jponry on Mar 28, 2010 11:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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by Gobroks on Mar 29, 2010 12:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
I’m here to help Boch make the final cuts.
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But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
by djp4cal on Mar 29, 2010 12:01 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You're wrong
Medders is guaranteed to make the team, they can’t send him to the minors.
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OF (6): DeRosa, Rowand, Schierholtz, Bowker, Torres, Lewis
IF (5): Huff, Ishikawa, Uribe, Renteria, Sandoval
C (2): Molina, Whiteside
SP: (5) Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Zito, Wellemeyer
RP: (7) Wilson, Romo, Affeldt, Runzler, Mota, Medders, Pucetas
At even money, I would not bet on Lewis being on the roster. That part is more about wishful thinking.
Also, you could just as easily give Pucetas’ spot to Rohlinger.
This
Except I’d have Pucetas as the #5 and Wellemeyer as the long man.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
If you are cutting Lewis, you better be cutting Velez as well.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I think the Giants are done with Fred. The only thing that will temporarily save him is the disabled list
OIC
You’re saying what you expect them to do, not what you want them to do.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
No. I forbid you.
OF: Bowker, Rowand, DeRosa
OF Bench: Torres, Lewis
There isn’t an option I would take over Lewis for that last spot on the team.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I’m sure he will be, but I don’t see the need for Ishikawa on the Giants bench. John Bowker, Mark DeRosa, Pablo Sandoval, and Buster Posey all have experience handling the 1B Bag, and I’d rather see that last lineup slot go towards a Freddie Lewis or Andres Torres.
Playing RF at Mays Field
RF at Mays Field is consider a second CF position. Nate Schierholtz has not impressed and Bowkermania is made for LF. Why waste the talent that is Gerald Posey at 1b?
With the glaring hole in the Giants lineup for a RF why not send out #28 to patrol the expanse that is RF? If the Giants are willing to give Bowker and DeRosa a try why not allow the young kid Posey a try?
Posey has probably has a better arm than Schierholtz. Posey’s work ethic is second to none so there is a good chance he can master the position. It will save his legs for the long haul and that bulk he added this winter could be allowed to melt away.
Now playing RF for your SF Giants number 28 ……..
HOW DO you come to the conclusion that Posey has a better arm than Schierholtz
I know that Nate as an accurate cannon, that is quite impressive. Posey has a good arm to second, and maybe it is better, but I’m not sure how we would know this. Has anyone seen him make throws from the outfield to try to nail an advancing runner?
The reasons I said Posey has possibly a better arm than Schierholtz is based on Gerald Posey was a SS while Nate Schierholtz was a 3b. SS supposedly have stronger arms than 3b. Gerald Posey was a pitcher who could reach 90mph. Posey is known to have a cannon..
Not to nitpick, but I will anyway
You said “probably” not “possibly”.
Personally, I think they both have good arms, but throwing a pitch, throwing a ball from the SS/3B to 1B and throwing a ball from the outfield are three completely different things and require much different mechanics and athleticism leading up to and including the actual throw. For that matter, a catcher throwing out a runner is different still.
Even though Posey pitched and played SS, I would say that’s not enough to say his arm in the OF is better than Nate’s.
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by stealth snail on Mar 30, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree. I think Posey is and should be a catcher. That’s where he’s most valuable. I do not think he should spend time learning right field instead of catching in Fresno.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 31, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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by can of corn on Mar 29, 2010 7:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
F-Lew
If Freddy is not traded by opening day, he will be on the DL to give them more time to figure what to do with him. No way does he break camp taking up a 25-man roster spot. That may not be a good thing, but it is a Giants Way thing.
You may be right on the DL
I saw today that he was indicating that he had some minor ailment. I see a bit of “Aurilia-itis” coming on.
Hope you are right about 11 pitchers.
I keep reading they will keep 12. Pucetas has earned a spot but there may not be room. I just think given the days off, they can get by with 11. 7 outfielders is awfuly crowded, even taking into account DeRosa and Velez being able to play second (and in DeRosa’s case third.)
I also hope Posey makes the team. But I may be on an island (again) on this one.
Posey shouldn’t make the team because he won’t get regular PT and using up his service time to keep the bench warm doesn’t make a lot of sense. Whiteside’s butt works just as well.
And I do think they should keep 12 pitchers; we don’t have a committed #5, so keeping Wellemeyer and Pucetas gives us options that’d be nice to have, and considering DeRosa, Uribe, Sandoval, Sanchez, and Bowker (and Velez if he makes the team) can play at least two positions each, unless there are simultaneous injuries to three players we won’t absolutely have to call anyone up; we’re three deep at every position except shortstop.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 29, 2010 8:13 AM PDT reply actions
I don't understand why people still think Velez can play second
I mean, I guess you could stick him there if you wanted a whole lot of “aw” “CLANK” “PWOP-DOONK” “dafackisgoingonwiththismoron”
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by Karlifornia on Mar 29, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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by KrazyKrabMeat on Mar 29, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
This does smell of a desperate need for attention, especially when considering all the other fan posts this guy has posted, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he really has a genuine interest in having a discussion about the opening day roster.
That said, I’m just fine discussing possible ODR’s in THIS forum and see no need to go elsewhere, including to your other site. You wanna talk about it, let’s talk about it HERE.
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by Prussian Creole on Mar 29, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Lol. Opening day roster.
And sorry, xanthan, I didn’t mean to imply that I think MCC is the ONLY baseball blog people should be reading. I just think its ridiculous to post half of your thoughts/opinion/analysis/whatever here and then try to redirect everyone to another website
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by Prussian Creole on Mar 29, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis may be on
the DL, bad ribs
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by Newcomb29(EDGE) on Mar 29, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
MORE LIKE BAD RIBBIES
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by Prussian Creole on Mar 29, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
MOAR LIKE NO RIBBIES!
No, wait, that was Lowry.
Goodbye, Steven Johnson, we hardly knew ye. Seriously, that was short.
I just noticed how he calls his own post “awesome.” LOL.
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by KrazyKrabMeat on Mar 29, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
These fanposts aren't even two weeks old yet!
Who are the rosterwinners now that Frandsen gone
Which 13 position players do you want on the OD roster?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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Why do you keep posting here?
We all know you’re a buster. Not the awesome Posey kind.
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by positiveuphemism on Mar 29, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions
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I would rather have Bowker in left and Derosa on second
But after that I would rather have a backup platoon or Torres Lewis, than Torres Velez. Unless we get somebody quite decent for Lewis. I can really see him coming back to haunt the giants if they just simply get rid of him. I don’t see why Lewis has dropped so far on the giants depth charts. If they thought he would hit 25 homers last year, they had the wrong guy, but if they need a guy who can get on base a bit, and work a pitcher, Lewis is quite ok. He runs a few bad routes in the outfield during a season, and looks bad, but he also makes some nice plays. Its not as if Velez does not have the same disease. Torres is a better fielder, and deserves a spot as does ishikawa if not solely for their defense. Pitching and Defense will help after we take a rare lead.
It feels as if the Giants have one to many players
With FSanchez/Uribe/DeRoser
With Schierholtz/Bowker/Lewis
With Mota/Medders/Sosa
you forgot..
with Velez/Velez/Velez
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opening my mind to possibility of Gerald Posey spending April in bigs
One reason: With Uribe starting most of the time, RH pinch hitters are kind of weak.—Torres, Whiteside, and probly Downs.
Other reason: Since Posey can backup both 1B and Catch, that saves a roster spot.
PROBLEM is: the org kind of wants to keep Ishikawa in case Huff is a total disaster playing 1B, so he would have to clear waivers to go to Fresno, and maybe again if he’s called up. Anybody know that rule?
So here is my possible 25 man: IF Pablo, Rent, Uribe, Huff, Downs 5
OF deRosa, Rowand, Nate, Bowker, Torres Velez 6
C Benjie, Posey 2
SP Linc, Zito, Cain, Sanchez, Wellemeyer 5
RP Wilson, Affeldt, Romo, Runzler, Medders plus, say WJoaquin, GMota 7
leave Pucetas as a starter in Fresno to backup Wellemeyer in that role. This is not the time to make him a reliever.
When Sanchez reclaims his 2B spot, Downs and Buster go to Fresno and Whitside called up to backup Benjie. And Ishi comes up if there’s a need, replacing one of the outfielders, most likely Bowker or Velez due to options.
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Posey gets to play the position he is meant to be playing every day for a couple months and gets consistent ABs at the same time. Isn’t that a nice thought? Then the Giants won’t have any reasons to complain about him not being ready behind the dish.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
he will be up later in 2010 anyway, what is the difference?
I actually am fine with Posey in Fresno catching every day all year. But Posey would help ticket sales in April. Then there is the “win now” thinking that always pops up.
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The difference is that right now he is prolly our second best hitter. He is likely to help us win more than other slow ass catchers.
by positiveuphemism on Mar 31, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
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by victor frankenstein on Mar 31, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
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