Veteran Presents
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 25, 2010 12:51 PM PDT
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PrintBengie Molina’s spring stats: .378/.425/.568, one home run, four doubles in 37 at-bats.
What this means: Means? Are you serious? Spring stats don’t mean anything. If Molina has even a .325 on-base percentage at the end of the year, I’ll get this tattooed on my back.
Aaron Rowand’s spring stats: .452/.538/.613, one home run, four walks in 31 at-bats.
What this means: Come on. It doesn’t mean anything.
Aubrey Huff’s spring stats: .385/.467/.718, three home runs, four doubles in 39 at-bats.
What this means: Seriously, just stop. If Molina, Rowand, and Huff all substantially improve their performances this season, I’ll be the first to call for Hensley Meulens’s induction into the Hall of Fame. Maybe then the 183 Meulens rookie cards I have will become hot commodities. Until then, let’s just remember that spring stats don’t mean anything.
John Bowker’s spring stats: .288/.356/.577, four home runs, six walks in 52 at-bats
What this means: Mark DeRosa should fill in for Freddy Sanchez, which would open the starting spot for Bowker. He’s earned a spot with his play this spring, which proves that his AAA numbers aren’t a fluke.
Buster Posey’s spring stats: .400/.429/.550, one home run, three doubles in 40 at-bats.
What this means: Bengie Molina is just a waste of our time. Buster Posey is the Jeff Speakman of the prospect world. Catchers who can hit .400 just don’t come along every day, and Posey needs to be in the lineup.
I hope this helps.
Point: none really. I kind of just wanted to point how Molina, Rowand, and Huff were raking while simultaneously acknowledging that it didn’t mean anything. Spring stats only mean something when you’re already partial to the player, which is why Bowker and Posey are obviously getting cheated out of starting jobs. But it brings up this comment starter:
Of the three veterans hitting well so far – Molina, Rowand, and Huff – for which one do you hold the most optimism? Note that for the purposes of this discussion, an absence of complete pessimism is considered optimism. My devil’s advocate case for each:
- Molina was quoted as saying that maybe he should be more patient, a novel idea that usually does elude major leaguers until their 13th season.Maybe he'll make strides in this area.
- Rowand looked at pictures of his stance throughout the years, and determined that he was doing even more of a pronounced spoiled-college-kid-backpacking-across-the-world-using-toilets-in-remote-parts-of-Morocco batting stance than he’d been using in the past. And he did have a good year in, uh, let’s see, 2007. Maybe he’s back.
- Huff was good as recently as 2008. Because that makes me feel better, I will completely ignore his 2009. Once I do that, he doesn’t look that bad. If Huff were to hit for his career averages – .282/.340/.472 – he’d be one of the better Giants first basemen since the halcyon days of J.T. Snow. If you completely ignore that Huff apparently fields like his fingers are stuck together with delicious taffy, it’s not hard to hope for some decent things from him.
If I have to choose between the three, I'll give the best odds to Huff, only because I haven't watched him for the past three years. That makes the non-pessimism slide down the gullet a little easier.
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Black makes Bengie look slimmer.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 25, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
That’s unfortunate for him then, cause it looks like a whole wave of tummy is getting ready to unload.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 25, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
It’s true. It’s like he’s hiding a cheese log in there.
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I’m disgusted, yet I can’t look away.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 25, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I should’ve put a subject line on that, huh!?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
What? I can’t take my eyes away to read your comment, so I’m not sure what you said. He ate the subject line?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 25, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss Rikishi.
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Also
BAY AREA TIES!!1
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Really?
I got tired of him in about five minutes.
Of course, if they brought back one of his other gimmicks…
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I'll say it's a tie between Rowand and Huff
In terms of my most optimism. They both showed up having lost weight, which yes, is hilarious (best shape of life!) but at the very least displays a dedication on their part. It’s not easy to drop 10-15 pounds over the course of a couple months, and they both did.
Rowand might be the cornerstone of the offense, sadly. If he thrives in the leadoff role, that causes so many other dominos to fall into place that could lead to huge benefits.
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Bengie Molina lost weight, too. We expect to find it in one of his folds soon, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd like that weight back
He’s been having trouble balacing the scale and calculating the postage when he wants to mail a package.
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I’m least pessimistic about Rowand. He’s the youngest of the group and had the best season last year.
by microwave donut on Mar 25, 2010 12:57 PM PDT reply actions
I’ll go with this. Plus, I think he’s the most likely to at least give us positional value. Which makes him easier for me to feel okay about.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, me too. This whole exercise has made me sad. Yay 3/8 of our offense for this year!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 25, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for Bengie now.
Bengie Molina’s spring stats: .378/.425/.568, one home run, four doubles in 37 at-bats.
What this means: Means? Are you serious? Spring stats don’t mean anything. If Molina has even a .325 on-base percentage at the end of the year, I’ll get this tattooed on my back.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
+1
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bengie album
…yes, a goddamn bengie the dog story on vinyl when i was younger. i’m sure i pretty much wore it out and i’m sure it’s likely worth a shit ton of money today. also: disney jazzercise
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Huff has the best chance to both contribute AND be accepted by the exhalted McCoven.
I think Molina will be best suited to get about 110 starts, so his numbers shouldn’t be an improvement over last year or any year. Plus he is blocking Buster while simultaneously giving 22giantes a foot rub. That doesn’t excite a fanbase.
Rowand would have to run through the brick wall in right center to gain most fans respect again. Then he would be on the DL sitting next to Bork telling his gamer and warrior stories and injecting collagen implants into his forehead. Meh.
Huff, shaky defense and all, has a relatively clean slate with us. I’m looking forward to him tearing it up in April, then most likely a slow steady decline to September. But, a good start will help him not only in the clubhouse, but on this site too, Which we all know holds the same amount of importance.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
I thought you were Mike Fox for a moment.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
That was happening a lot, so I killed him.
RIP Mr. Fox…You’re not so fantastic anymore.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
I really liked that movie
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Geez, I don't know
What if Rowand’s “every 3rd year” thing is real?
I say we let him have a great 2010 and then he has a little accident over the winter.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
If I have to choose between the three, I’ll give the best odds to Huff, only because I haven’t watched him for the past three years
I was going to write this exact thing. Sure he sucked last year, but I didn’t see it. Ergo, it didn’t happen. I’ve watched the other 2 be terrible for 2 straight years, so I know what to expect there.
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Rowand
Rowand is always good when he was good three seasons prior. Always! He also should be at least a decent defender, unlike the other two. And even if Bengie has learned to take a walk, which I doubt, he’d still be the slowest man in baseball.
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Bengie Molina, the only guy in baseball who actually lowers his team’s probability to score runs by getting on base.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Mar 25, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff. Maybe. I guess? I don't know.
Also, I felt Bowker should be a reserve OF and Posey should be starting before ST.
+1
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I don't really hold any optimism for any of them
If I had to choose, Rowand, I guess. He might be marginally close to league average. Whoo?
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I’m least pessimistic about Huff’s offense. He was hurt last year. His defense will resemble something like this…
Needs more Raul Ibañez GIF
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I like the lawn dart one
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by say hey nation on Mar 25, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
This is so excellent
“Hey you gaiz, I’ll get it”
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Mar 25, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Ask, and ye shall
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Also featuring Raul
And in honor of Phil Hughes being named the Yankee’s 5th starter:
My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
LOL JOBA
/Huff fistpump
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 25, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 25, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This is my personal favorite
I really don’t see how that’s even possible.
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I keep focusing really hard on his hand to see what went wrong with the throw.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Mar 25, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The glee of the Phillies player is what sells this.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Now kiss.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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He got out just a little ahead of that one.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s trying out the Holliday method.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 25, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The other team just got SERVED
Win the inning.
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by Scooter Ellis on Mar 25, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Headless Gamer agrees
"Ve-a knoo Juhnny cun heet. Thet's a greet bet zeere-a. It's a metter ooff vhet's gueeng tu feet best fur zee bellcloob. Zee bell is joompeeng ooffff hees bet, boot zeere-a ere-a oozeer theengs yuoo cunseeder. He's dune-a ell he-a cun du. He's perffurmed. Bork Bork Bork!"
by rightcenterfielder on Mar 25, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
reminds me of
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!
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Time to cool off!
"Ve-a knoo Juhnny cun heet. Thet's a greet bet zeere-a. It's a metter ooff vhet's gueeng tu feet best fur zee bellcloob. Zee bell is joompeeng ooffff hees bet, boot zeere-a ere-a oozeer theengs yuoo cunseeder. He's dune-a ell he-a cun du. He's perffurmed. Bork Bork Bork!"
by rightcenterfielder on Mar 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
BMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMABMA
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait wait wait!!
This is the next great thing for Sabean! Rodents don’t have the same contractual rights as humans, so …
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by AllezlesGiants! on Mar 26, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Huff
We’ve already seen Scott and Bengie fail. Haven’t seen Huff fail yet…………
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
+1
EXACTLY my thoughts. I know how much Molina and Rowand will make me curse and throw things at the tv/radio, but I can still hold out some small hope that Huff won’t cause pain.
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Mar 25, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand looked at pictures of his stance throughout the years, and determined that he was doing even more of a pronounced spoiled-college-kid-backpacking-across-the-world-using-toilets-in-remote-parts-of-Morocco batting stance than he’d been using in the past.
Epic.
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If I was using a toilet in Morocco I’d use that stance too
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 25, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Just make DAMNED sure a Moroccan with a bar of soap isn’t standing behind you.
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by AllezlesGiants! on Mar 26, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh, I’ll go with Huff. For whatever reason he has been one of those guys that I check out on yahoo every couple of days, just to see how he’s doing. It seems impossible that I could like Rowand, but if he can hit .300, I’d be moved to forget all those monkey turdesque throws. Bengie and I are done. He won’t do well, so there’s no point in pretending that he could.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
really?
hitting .300 is the cutoff?
/hates batting average
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I don’t mind batting average if you’re talking about players who don’t squeeze out a lot of walks.
For instance, when talking about Schierholtz, I never say “If Nate can lay down a .365 OBP, I’ll be happy.” Because he’s never going to do that independent of getting lots and lots and lots of hits. And lots and lots and lots of hits are batting average. Nate doesn’t squeeze out OBP. He accidentalies into OBP by squeezing out batting average.
I guess maybe it’s a little backward of a way to look at it. In a general sense, OBP is the thing regardless of batting average. But I still feel like I should pay more attention to batting average for players whose offensive value comes almost exclusively from non-walks.
Looking back at that, I don’t think it makes sense. Except, I mean, in my head. Oh well.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
nah I get it
BA = OBP if you never walk. So BA ~ OBP for most of the Giants hitters. So I want to cry.
by microwave donut on Mar 25, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure it makes sense. It’s the Ichiro Principle.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
no, that actually makes a lot of sense
and is the best argument I’ve ever heard for using BA
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There is also a reverse argument – that there are very few players who can put up a good season without a decent batting average. Hitting .215 will sink pretty much anybody’s OBP to unacceptable levels. So despite the ability to take a walk being a very repeatable skill, much value can still be tied up in whether or not the guy can actually get a hit, whether he’s just unlucky or whatever. See Giles, Marcus and Ensberg, Morgan.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Well, the extreme example is Adam Dunn. He has about the lowest sustainable batting average of anybody in the league.
Realistically, though, we’re not talking about the difference between somebody who hits .215 and somebody who hits .300. If Nate Schierholtz hits .300, he’s a valuable bat. If he hits .270, he’s not. You can’t say the same thing for guys who get more value out of walks. If Adam Dunn hits .300, he’s a great player. If he hits…. oh god, he actually did hit .215 one year with an OPS+ of 116…
Where was I….? I’m a little too shocked to keep thinking logically….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunn's numbers are so weird
every time I look at them, I wonder how he does what he does.
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I know
like how he hit exactly 40 homers for four straight seasons
by microwave donut on Mar 25, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
the difference between .270 and .300 isn’t as big as people think it is, unless it’s someone who, like you say, is TOTALLY reliant on average to be successful.
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Yeah, I was just using the .215 number to avoid people throwing out dozens of exceptions. Using a number that low, you’re pretty limited for contrary examples, which, may it be said, you found.
But I actually think this is a pretty common thing, especially for the hitters the Giants are fielding this year. Pick a player (non-Pablo division) and if he hits .300 this year he’s going to be an asset. If not, he’s probably dragging the offense down. BA is useful in this case ‘cause most of those guys are average-to-worse at taking walks, so their OBP isn’t going to be any good if the average is .270.
The real question is: is Mark Reynolds the next Adam Dunn?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Pablito
is pretty average dependent too. I mean if he hit .300 he’s an asset, but if he hits .330 he’s an all star.
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If he hits .330 he is an all star unless Charlie Manuel makes the selection.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 26, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
>:( GRRRRR
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by bondslegend on Mar 26, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at Rowand’s career. When he hits right around .300, he’s a good offensive player. When he doesn’t, he’s awful. Do I really need to narrow it down to OBP? Rowand will probably draw something close to 35-40 walks. Those, paired with a .300 average, make for an acceptable OBP
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I guess
I’m just hard wired to start fidgeting whenever someone brings up BA
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It means you're well trained.
But seriously, BA isn’t useless. OBP is more important because it gauges outs, but BA can tell you a great many things about a player. Just because it’s overvalued by most people does not make it meaningless.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
truth
now rsbi…
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/ball in play, out(s)
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by AllezlesGiants! on Mar 26, 2010 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Huff, because
- I already know what Moina and Rowand can do.
- Huff presents “Hope” b/c he is moving from the AL East to the NL West.
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Huff presents "Hope" b/c he is moving from the AL East to the NL West.
That’s another good reason.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
But wasn't he in detroit last year?
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480 PA for Baltimore
117 PA for Detroit
Note: this doesn’t imply that I agree with the original optimistic premise. I think he’ll suck.
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oh
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I don’t believe it either. But of the three he has the best excuse for sucking last year.
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by say hey nation on Mar 25, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Started with Orioles last season, traded to Tigers before the deadline
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oh yeah
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Rowand will probably stink less than the other two clowns
I have seen enough of Huff via Extra Innings to already be sick of his weak game. He is going to be a hate magnet around these parts by June or July.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
some people have a real fear of clowns. those “some people” would vote rowand too.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
The Giants should wear floppy shoes and red noses as part of their regular uniform.
Except for Pablo. His uniform should have a huge turkey leg embroidered on the front. Busters uniform will include an orange cape.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis would have wings attached to his big red shoes.
Nate would have a clown cannon in RF in which to shoot him ball-in-fist first to home to tag out runners.
Uribe’d have big, white, clown jazz-hands
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Except for Pablo. His uniform should have a huge turkey leg embroidered on the front.
I spit up my tea at this
by microwave donut on Mar 25, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I amz afraid of Bengie el Clown
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by AllezlesGiants! on Mar 26, 2010 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That reminds me: I watched Redbelt the other night. I liked it, but maybe not enough to buy it. Chiwetel Ejiofer is a fucking actor, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ejiofer? I hardly know her! (it’s really Ejiofor).
The man needs to star in a legitimate action epic. I rate my action heroes on a simple scale: can he/she believably fight the Predator? Obviously Arnold Swhwaw is the gold standard. Of the actors in the coming Predator film, I’d say Danny Trejo and Larry Fishburne are the only acceptable options. And Larry’s looking a bit fat.
I would gleefully pit Ejiofor against the Predator.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You’re right. Ejiofor. Do you happen to know how to pronounce it? I always just mangle my way through it because I’ve never heard anybody else actually try to say it. Even in the Serenity commentary, Joss just calls him Chewy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No clue. For me he has always been ‘that guy from Serenity’.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
For me he’s always been “that guy from Melinda and Melinda”, which is a generally awful movie that I would not recommend to anyone, even if Ejiofor’s character is named Moonsong.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
He’s the guy from Kinky Boots.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
& DIRTY PRETTY THINGS. But he did his finest work yet in 2012. Not.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 25, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
He was in that?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was the “Gravitas Guy”. Every mindless disaster movie has one: the scientist/journalist/cop who nobody listens to until it’s too late (or almost too late), usually played by the best actor in the movie (someone you’re surprised to see in a mindless disaster movie) — Jeff Goldblum in INDEPENDENCE DAY, Dennis Quaid in THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, Paul Newman in THE TOWERING INFERNO, etc., etc..
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by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 25, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I hope he cashed in.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
THE PERFECT WEAPON!
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by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 25, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the point of his right hand spread? Is that part of the training?
“Young warriors, be sure to spread your pinkie-ring and fore-middle fingers exactly one and one half inch apart! Through this, you shall achieve total mastery of your opponent! Or aggressor! KaratE is to be used for defense only!”
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Huff
we have have young outfielders and a catcher to take over for Rowand and Molina, I just wish the tenacity was there to take them out if they suck.
It would be great to see Lewis and Bowker in the same OF to see what they can do over an extended period of time.
I think Whiteside should take over for Molina. Posey doesn’t know how to catch pitching so I think he should be at first base or PHing so he can learn how to catch pitching.
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Sooooo basically… Spring stats don’t mean shit regardless, right? So even though it’s great Posey and Bowker are hitting pretty well, it doesnt mean shit, same with looking at Molina, Derosa, Rowand, and Huff
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You figured it out.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
yea… took me a while, all about what happens during the season
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You don't see with your eyes
You perceive with your mind
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Xanathan tries to stifle mine.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
no squealing, remember
that it’s all in your head
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--Daisy Owl
They don’t mean anything, except when they do. Like field goals in the NFL’s new overtime system.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m rooting for Audrey Horne
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The character or the band?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I would just be greatly amused if I could post pictures of the character in GDT every time Huff does something good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was planning on posting pics of Audrey Meadows.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Who-is?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s only striking out 21% of the time!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What percent of the time is he dropping fly balls?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Little known fact: Fred Lewis has never actually made a single outfield put-out in his life.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He’d probably put-out more if it would ensure his employment.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
100%.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Eh. Could be worse.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Willie McGee over throw
Seeing the field pix above reminded me of a play where Willie McGee, fielded a ball in right and tried to throw out the runner at first. Only the runner was 10-15 feet past the bag. And Willie hit him in the helmet. Anyone else recall this scene?
I’ve been unable to find web evidence but it would fit in nicely with the great plays above.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Giants having a bunting contest
participants: Rent, Pablo, Torres, Velez, Frandsen, Timmy, Zeets, Sanchez, Cain, Wellemeyer
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Thanks to roger
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I hope Pablo bunts a home run and wins the contest.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
He does seem like a December-January type of person.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
You should put Frandsen as that because he needs the most seasoning.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s pointless, he’s done… i rooted for him in the past, but he’s been given an opportunity to show what he could do and i guess he just isn’t showing it
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Because winter is one of the four seasons.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
So is Frankie Valli
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Also:
he’s been given an opportunity to show what he could do and i guess he just isn’t showing it
He’s had exactly 15 more professional at bats than John Bowker – in two extra years (one if you don’t count that whole ankle thing). Real awesome opportunity.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but his technique is to take a full swing and just end up with something that looks like a bunt.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Bork is going to fix that this season
More bunting!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The pic that Grant posted makes Bengie look like he has an ass growing out of his stomach.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Click on the right hand picture.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So not cetacean status?
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Okay, look at Grant’s picture. The guy is a barcalounger.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I know, but it’s just his stomach. The rest of hm doesn’t seem that big to me, especially in person. The camera really does add a 10 pounds. And, there are a lot of cameras on him for each game.
LOL
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Once you get into the 250+ pound range, though, it’s pretty tough to distinguish a 10 pound difference with your eyes.
That’s like adding 10 pennies to two and a half dollars worth of pennies. Are you really going to eyeball that difference?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I read "pennies" as "penises"
once you get to that many Ps and Ns it’s pretty tough to distinguish a difference.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
If you have to pay for penis, you must not be trying very hard.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I resemble that remark.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 25, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, that made me laugh
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kdl likes a little junk in the trunk.
Nothing wrong with that.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
By my understanding, though Molina’s trunk isn’t really all that junky. It’s just his belly.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So I GIS'd 'belly belly'
It was an unfortunate choice for a number of reasons, but it did reveal this picture. I cannot decide whether or not it is cool, but I think I’m going to err on the side of cool.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He's fat in person
Trust me, I’ve met him a couple of times
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 25, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I already established at the top of the thread that he lost weight.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You would think I'm a beanpole then
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Donovan McNabb to the 49ers
bad idea? Or THE WORST idea? Speaking of pessimism w/r/t veterans. jeebus
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Thanks to roger
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/mentions fantasy baseball team
Since it’s not going to happen anyway, I’d classify it under “most pointless idea”.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I hate Tebow, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for the team to do as long as they didn’t waste a day one pick on him.
There are probably a good 5-7 quarterbacks I’d take before him without flinching, though. And that’s just a guess. It could be more.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I would fucking kill someone (not really) if they draft Tebow
jesus christ. They better not draft Tebow. I have an unbelievable, burning hatred for the guy
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Thanks to roger
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/mentions fantasy baseball team
I’ll admit it would probably make me like the team less on a personal level, but assuming that he drops far enough that my other options are no longer options, I’d be hard pressed to actually disagree with the move.
But I’ve been pretty vocal about wanting a quarterback in this draft. I don’t think that Tebow is the talent disaster waiting to happen that a lot of people do, which is why I’m not opposed to him in theory. I do dislike him quite a bit in general, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No
nonononono. Especially not if they’re going to draft him to play quarterback. Then I really would kill someone. The guy cannot throw. At all. And I’m not basing that on the media saying it- I watched him play a lot. And he sucks at throwing the ball, not something you want from your quarterback.
I’d rather see Nate Davis develop than waste a pick on tebow.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
If the 49ers draft Tebow in the first round, I will never watch them again.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
That would be criminal.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff
1. He’s my adopted son
2. I want to see all you naysayers eat your words!
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
/looks for the penis joke
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 25, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And by “eat your words” he means penis.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
…translated to “I want to see all you naysayers penis!” that’s just wrong, grammatically
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
He just likes looking at pessimistic penis.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I need a really smug picture of myself
…to post every time Huff does something good
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Or a smug picture of your penis.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Relating to the title of this post
Should the sub headline be:
The Gift that Keeps on Giving
or
I Got a Piece of Coal That Looks Like Bengie Molina Eating a Cheese Log For My Birthday
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
Bengie Molina will fail more consistently and more upper-cuttedly than any other regular in baseball. The other two might be okay.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I spent a good 30 seconds trying to figure out what “Upper-Cuddly” meant.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So many jokes, so little time.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Grant called it:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2010/03/25/thursdays-giants-lineup-19/
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Save for Molina (BACK IN THE FUCKING CLEAN UP), I actually kind of like it.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Sigh…
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LOL GIANTS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 25, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
OH TIGHT GIANTS
GOOD TO SEE YOU LEARN FROM PAST MISTAKES
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I love how Baggs uses BOWKERMANIA now
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
BOWKERMANIA! Think less, but see it grow like a riot. Like a riot. I’m not easily offended. It’s not hard to let it go from a mess to the masses.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
extraneous "the"
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Nah, when Renteria starts on opening day, Uribe will play second and DeRosa will man left. Book it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 25, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
vroomania
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
by greatgiantfan on Mar 25, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand
I think he’ll be ~ average
Molina will make me want Posey to start more everyday and I could see Huff being DFA’d by July
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
ahh, so this is where everyone’s been hangin out. All the cool mccoven (not the nerbs).
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
mccoven diversity: Romosexuals, Velezbians, Nerb's--they're all here...
Bengie Molina’s spring stats: .378/.425/.568
Hey wait a second:
Why is the second number larger than the first…?
I wouldn’t be shocked if Rowand pulls a Zito and has a decent season just when everyone is thinking he totally sucks
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Every three years, man.
Every three years.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 25, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Rowand isn’t completely terrible. Just very average.
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Rowand
Because he can still contribute defensively
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
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