All-time favorite SF Giants: Exceptions
by achiappanza on Mar 2, 2010 6:46 PM PST
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I thought of this topic a while ago, but I was going to let StickRat finish all the positions. I think he just didn't bother with the outfield.
Basically, I couldn't help but notice that under the definition "You don't have to have a reason, just pick your favorite" criteria, most of us went with the player who held the position when we were growing up and falling in love with baseball.
I'm curious who we chose (or would have chosen in the OF) that came later in our respective fan careers. (Or before your time, if you roll that way.)
(Note: This isn't a request to list 11 positions with players that meet that criteria. It's a request to see how many of your 11 just happen to.)
2B: Robby Thompson
SS: Omar Vizquel
3B: Matt Williams
LF: Barry Bonds
RHSP: Tim Lincecum
LHSP: Atlee Hammaker, before he fell apart.
Everyone else was playing before I was 16.
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He’s like Shaun Estes was for me, but for you, and with a no-hitter on your birthday. I didn’t get that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Mostly because my birthday is in March, though. I’m sure if my birthday was in June, it would have happened.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, when I was 13, Shaun Estes kind of sucked. I don’t know who would be a good comp. Nen?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Shawn. That’s embarrassing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Chone
The very bad man who traded my first son non-tendered my replacement son. F*ck you Brian Sabean. Leave my children alone.
Shaun is his cousin from Cardiff.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Don’t take this the wrong way Ramah, but you don’t actually have a “later” in your fan career yet.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I have an irrational fondness for Travis Ishikawa.
There. I said it.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
Yeah, I would sure love it if he could hit better
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
I belong in this line
Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
Fav. Players
Shawn Estes
Noah Lowry
John Bowker
Kevin Frandsen
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Freddy Sanchez
yes I mean it
I like his style
by 49erEmpire on Mar 2, 2010 10:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I've been a Giants fan for over 30 years
but Bill Mueller was my all time favorite Giant
by crazedcrustacean on Mar 2, 2010 10:07 PM PST reply actions
it sucked watching him wear a dodger jersey though
by 49erEmpire on Mar 2, 2010 10:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Isn’t he still coaching for that team? You may still have a chance to see him in that uniform.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t understand what the Bill Mueller fascination is/was about? I remember reading a report where players were fighting over who gets the locker next Mueller’s. Weird.
It was the two flap helmet
Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
He was a good, high-OBP hitter who also played good defense while providing the Giants with excellent value while cheap and under team control. He ably took over third base from fan-favorite Matt Williams.
Also, he was the best home-grown position player drafted and developed by the Giants between Matt Williams (debut in 1987) and Pablo Sandoval (debut in 2008).
I really don’t understand why you wouldn’t understand why Giants fans love him. It’s pretty obvious.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
All true
I think there’s also a lot of love for a scrappy overachiever that does in fact, produce. Myth meets reality on the hot corner.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Can I be a total nudge and point out that Sandoval was not, in fact, drafted (but was developed!)? I don’t really know why I felt compelled to write this.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
right, right
And I know that! I actually went back in and put “drafted” in there to avoid people saying, “But what about Rich Aurilia?” I should’ve realized I was thus fucking up my own premise.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Plus, the name
How can you not love a guy named Mueller who pronounced it Miller? To be consistent, he should have been either Buell Mueller, or Bill Miller. I was also a huge fan of Wuelly Mays, the Tarantino film Kuell Buell, and the Beverly Huellbuellies.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Mar 7, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
BILLY!!!! ((hugs))
November 2000: I first learn the phrase “DAMN YOU SABEAN!!” after he trades Mueller for … uh … Tim Worrell?
JUST A CITY BOY
Agreed
Bill Mueller is #1 in my book. I just ignore the dodger connections and current employment.
He’s followed by Kirt Dean Manwaring then Richie and Benito.
I was a catcher when I played, so I have a soft spot for the tools of ignorance.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Mar 4, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Now there's a new definition of "favorite"
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Kent is the best 2B to play in a Giants uniform
And I sincerely hope he goes into the hall as a Giant.
by FireBrianSabean on Mar 6, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Pablo. I dont care that he has only been here one year. Hes is amazing, and he is always smiling and making jokes. I absolutely love that man/panda.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 2, 2010 10:27 PM PST reply actions
In my lifetime?
BB
Schmidt(in that short time)
Tim
Rich Arugula
Hey Tea Snoe
Williams and Clark were before my time but after my birth.
Good call.
I believed it when they said he was “stopper”, or pitched to situations, or all of that praise he received. And the ears.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
me too
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 3, 2010 6:09 AM PST up reply actions
Favorites-JT Snow, BB, Rich Aurillia and Benito Santiago
Least Favorite – Marvin Bernard, I hate everything about Marvin Bernard especially because everytime I would curse him and tell everyone I hate him he would hit a homerun or do something good and stay in the lineup for just a little longer.
Marvin Bernard is the bain of my existence...
…followed by Ricky Ledee
I remember one game where Bernard was up in the 8th or so with two runners on and the Jints down by one. I commented that if Bernard got a hit to put the Gmen in the lead, I wouldn’t say anything negative about him for a month. Sure enough, that was the only time in his entire career he managed to get a hit with men on base (I’m clearly not exaggerating here). The following month was one of the worst of my life.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Mar 4, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
My favorites over the years
Bob Brenly
Kevin Mitchell
Darren Lewis
Rod Beck
Jeff Kent
Omar Vizquel
Panda
"Forget it Donny, you're out of your element"-Walter Sobchak
Tom Lampkin
Ellis Burks
Stan Javier
Felipe Crespo
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 3, 2010 5:34 AM PST reply actions
With respect
That’s the best JV team of favorites I’ve ever seen.
by FireBrianSabean on Mar 6, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm… guess I’d have to say everybody except Mays, McCovey, and Marichal.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Right there with you
Except I decided I like Timmy more than Juan, and Bobby Bonds/Jack Clark and Gary Lavelle more than anyone after them.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
In order:
Bonds
Leonard
Mitchell
Clark
Pabloval
Williams
Nen
Bill Mueller
Guys I loved but just didn’t wear the uni long enough:
Jose Cruz (at least until that game in Miami)
David Bell
Galarraga
Guys I hated so much it deserves mention:
Cody Ransom
Solomon Torres
Wayne Gomes
Shawon
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
He score the run that put us in the WS!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+bell+2002+NLCS&search_type=&aq=f
Has a sad.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I want to revisit this joy … but I can’t withstand the sadness … o me, o life, o the questions ever recurring
JUST A CITY BOY
Well,
You can’t see it because the link above is a youtube search for “David Bell 2002 NLCS”
at the top of a list of a bunch of videos of some H.S. QB by the same name it says, "No videos found for "david bell 2002 NLCS" "
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
McCovey
Perry
Al Gallagher
Ken Reitz
Youngblood
Vizquel
O’Malley
Gary Matthews
Leonard
Kevin Mitchell
"If we had signed Guerrero or Sheffield, we would have been without Brower, Eyre, Herges, Hermanson,Tomko,Pierzynski, Feliz, Snow,Hammonds, Mohr and Tucker–obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint"--B Sabean
Fred
4 years ago, I would’ve been the douche who calls into KNBR saying how Fred’s a terrible player. Now? I understand Fred: the dude who does not one of the obvious things (e.g. HR, RBI, plays spectacular defense, steals a lot of bases) but does so many of the unnoticed things.
Fred, I’ll miss you!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
UNCLE FREDDY'S DEAD?
YOU KILLED UNCLE FREDDY?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Re-casting the context
I’m guessing from some of these posts that some of you missed or forgot the series of “elections” we did in these polls a few months back. So let me give that context.
We had a series of fanposts in which we posted our favorite SF Giant ever at that position. This was not supposed to be a logical, stat-based argument about who was best, but rather who was your favorite for any reason, sentimental reasons included.
Perhaps not surprisingly, our answers leaned heavily towards who manned each position when we were kids, just learning to love baseball. The idea of this topic is to surface favorite Giants who have surpassed or displaced our childhood heroes.
Example 1: Willie Mays was in CF when I was a kid. Willie Mays is my favorite SF Giants CF of all time. Hence: Willie Mays does not make my list for this topic.
Example 2: Chris Speier was the SS when I was a kid. I was a big Chris Speier fan. But when Omar came along, I enjoyed his play so much, I have to pick Omar as my favorite. Omar Vizquel does make my list for this topic.
You are free, of course, to drift in this topic any way you want, as we often do. But the intent was not to get a list of all time loveable Giants, some of whom were the first players you knew, some of which played the same positions as others on your list, and some of whom were utility players you have some fondness for.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
OP near bottom of thread
That’s the way to do it, money for nothing and the chicks for free.
by positiveuphemism on Mar 3, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
OP?
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Original Post, usually. The point is that the OP of this thread was awful. This other post actually was a better OP than the OP.
Just IMO, FWIW.
by positiveuphemism on Mar 4, 2010 2:38 AM PST up reply actions
not awful
but funnier when original expectation that posters would pay any attention to instructions is repeated when McCoven proves to be unherdable cats
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 4, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
A grander plan
Perhaps now is the time I reveal my master plan to strap buttered bread to the back of McCoven cats drop them. The principle of “Buttered bread always lands face down” will meet the principle of “Cats always land on their feet” and the combined pair should hover inches above the ground, creating an energy-free hovercraft.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
I think you would need to put a small slice of buttered bread on each paw, with the buttered-side towards the paw. If the bread is on the cat’s back, won’t it just land on its feet? Maybe I’m picturing this wrong.
If the bread is on the cat’s back, butter up, then it can’t land face down if the cat lands feet first.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
My Favorite All Time Team
SP Brett Tomko
RP Armando Benitez
C AJ Pyrshitski
1B Aubrey Huff
2B Freddy Sanchez
SS Edgar Renteria
3B Edgardo Alfatso
LF FP Santangelo
CF Aaron Rowand
RF Candy Maldanado
by E Ticket on Mar 3, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions
Bench
LHP Barry Zito
RHP Matt Morris
1B Shea Hindenburg
2B Eugenio Velez
SS Jose Viscaino
3B Pedro Feliz
OF Marvin Benard
OF Todd Linden
OF Tie: Rickey Ledee/Alex Sanchez
by E Ticket on Mar 3, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
wow
Impressed that Huff made the first cut!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 3, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. Its pretty visceral. Ever since he was in Tampa. He’s another AJ, except won’t be as productive. He’s a loudmouthed drunk.
by E Ticket on Mar 3, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
But the masturbation jokes
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Favorite Managers
Felipe Alou
Bruce Bochy
Clyde King
Joe Altobelli
Charlie Fox
by E Ticket on Mar 3, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions
For some reason
I loved Glenallen Hill
still a Kevin Frandsen fan.
and Freddy if he can figure it out.
He did keep the games interesting
I remember cringing in terror every time a ball was hit to him in right.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Mar 4, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm…
1b: Will (McCovey as a kid)
2b: Velez (Robby) I love the Vroomness!
SS: Omar (Uribe/LaMaster)
3b: Pablo (Matty)
LF: Barry (hackman)
CF: Hamilton (Davis)
RF: can’t think of a single past/present player that I really liked
C: Decker (Brenly)
RP: Beck (Minton)
SP: Timmy (Atlee)
by positiveuphemism on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 PM PST reply actions
Cool… and who remains from that list if you drop the ones where your childhood favorite is still your overall favorite?
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
RF: can’t think of a single past/present player that I really liked
Serious. Guy was awesome. At least to a pre-adolescent. He used to flip bp balls over the rightfield cyclone fence in front of the bleachers. Scored about a dozen myself .
by E Ticket on Mar 4, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Bobby Bonds?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 4, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
I just can’t imagine not liking Bobby Bonds or Jack Clark. Two of the probably 10 greatest SF Giants to me.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Brenly. I was at the error game. I remember my friends and I laughing at how many errors he was committing. I also remember us running around the park and hassling the usherettes for freebies from previous promotions. We ended up sneaking into the bleachers for the ninth inning.
by positiveuphemism on Mar 4, 2010 2:42 AM PST reply actions
Darryl Strawberry
Deon Sanders
!!@#!#$@#$#
by Section B, Row 1 on Mar 4, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions
Hal Lanier
Watching him at the plate, I thought “I could do that”.
Also Chris Arnold, Don Mason, Damaso Blanco…
That’s funny, when I watched Hal Lanier at the plate I thought: “he can’t do this.”
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I liked Felix Rodriguez. Skinny rocket armed converted catcher? wtf?
by microwave donut on Mar 5, 2010 12:59 PM PST reply actions
lineups are more or less in order of favoriteness
SP: Lincy
SP: Jerome Williams
SP: Schmidt
SP: Woody
SP: Cain
RP: Robb Nen
RP: Rod Beck
RP: Joe Nathan =(
RP: Jim Brower – square jaw tick man as we called him
RP: Orel Herschieser haha yeah pitch out of relief
CF: Tsuyoshi Shinjo – lol leadoff hitter has to be fast
RF: Ellis Burks
3B: Panda
LF: Bonds
2B: Jeff Kent
C: Benito
SS: I’ve yet to like one apart from that 1 good richie season, so I’ll put David Bell at short
1B: The Big Cat/David Minor platoon – our 1B has to be the worst offensive position, naturally
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Mar 5, 2010 7:52 PM PST reply actions
Started watching full time in the SF-NYM '00 LDS. Fan since.
C Benito Santiago, Aj Piersynzki snub (Shut up, I liked him)
1B JT Snow/El Gato platoon
2B Ray Durham, Jeff Kent snub
SS Omar Vizquel, Rich Aurillia snub
3B Pablo Sandoval, David Bell snub
UTIL Edgardo Alfonzo, Bill Mueller snub
LF Barry, i gayass.
CF Bernard? Unless we move Winn to CF, for this purpose. Eugh. Because I don’t wanna say Rowand or Bernard. Grissom? No I hated him. And no, I won’t say Tsuyoshi Shinjo — I hate the guy when he was in SF, even if he was LOLworthy.
RF Winn
4OF SCHIERHOLTZ
5OF Jose Cruz Jr.
Lincecum
LOWRY
SCHMIDT
Rueter
J. Sanchez
Dan Runzler
Felix Rodriguez
Joe Nathan (I remember being enamored with him because he won 10 game that season, as if that meant anything for a relief pitcher. This was when I thought of wins as a good pitcher measure)
Matt Herges
Tim Worrell
Robb Nen
Constantly rosterbating.
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