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Apparently Aubrey Huff has a chance for 100 RBI's. Meaningless stats FTW
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If this offense even approaches not awful, I’m giving all the credit to Meulens.
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by can of corn on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Ruben Sierra
1993: .233/.288/.390 in 158 ABs. 22 HRs, 101 RBIs.
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check the math, buddy
how are you going to get 909 runs out of 9 players batting .233?
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If they all hit 101 RBIs, it seems easy enough.
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s 158 games for Sierra that year; I think he had 630 at bats. OPS+ of 86. Wow, he was bad that year. But the RIBBIES!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 16, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff's career high in RBIs: 108, 2008, Orioles
OBP of the guys hitting ahead of him:
Brian Roberts: .378
Melvin Mora: .342
Nick Markaris: .406
2009 OBPs of the guys likely to hit ahead of Huff this year:
Aaron Rowand: .319
Freddy Sanchez: .326
(Edgar Renteria: .307)
Pablo Sanoval: .387
…yeah, he’s totally getting 100 RBIs.
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This is what I’ve tried pointing out (admittedly without the exact stats) to people who point to Huff’s 86 RBI from last year. But usually to no avail.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 16, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Counterpoint
Molina drove in 98 runs in 2008 hitting cleanup on a pretty crappy team. (72 wins, 640 runs)
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95 RBI for Molina in 2008. Given enough opportunities, a hitter can drive in 100 runs (hence Ruben Sierra’s glorious 101 RBI 1993 season), even if it’s unlikely because that hitter doesn’t have great on-base guys hitting in front of him. But I doubt Huff will drive in 100 runs partly because he is unlikely to be as good as he was in 2008, when his OPS+ was 137.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 16, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie's OPS+ was only 98 in 2008
If that’s all it takes to drive in 100 runs hitting clean up for the 2010 Giants, it doesn’t seem that unreasonable that Huff could do it.
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I know, but one example of an average hitter nearly driving in 100 runs on a subpar offensive team does not make it unreasonable that Huff would do it this year. I think that’s using one example to prove too much. It may have been unreasonable that Molina even drove in that many runs in 1998, so it’s still unreasonable that Huff would do it this year.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 16, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Good average and power will allow that to happen. But, as I’m sure you know, it doesn’t address the issue of that player torpedoing the offense behind him because he’s making an absurd number of outs.
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 16, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 16, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
100 RBIs isn’t a meaningless stat. It means a lot for the team… if it happens that means that the team will have scored at least 100 runs! It’s meaningless if you’re trying to use it to show why a player is good. But it’s still important in a broader, retrospective sense if it actually does happen.
Expecting it to happen is another thing altogether.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
Wouldn’t it be cool if the Giants scored at least 100 runs next year?
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Home Improvement?
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so, Howie.
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Well the way the question was phrased
it appeared as though their argument was that Huff was a “good rbi guy” and that was where the “meaningless stat” line came from
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Yeah, I’ve heard multiple people praise Huff as an RBI guy to say he was a good signing, so I think the point about it being meaningless is sound.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 16, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel ya.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Get on base, bitches!
And let my boy drive ’em in!
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