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At catcher, Bengie Molina got the nod over Benito Santiago, despite the latter’s role with teams that reached the postseason. Employing basic statistics, Moorehead demonstrated that Molina (.278, 55 homers, 256 RBIs in 411 games from 2007-09) outperformed Santiago (.273, 33 homers, 175 RBIs in 367 games from 2001-03).

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by natteringnabob on Mar 15, 2010 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I think I’ll take Benito Santiago over Molina, but it’s close.

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by rotorueter on Mar 15, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

I always liked Benito, but I really like Bengie a lot more than most people around here. Though he better not be in the “all-decade team” for the upcoming 10 years…….

by Unitard on Mar 15, 2010 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, I never really realized that Durham was with the team for six years.

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by Natto on Mar 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

He was injured for four of those six years…

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by tedfordfan on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by nvsfg on Mar 16, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

That outfield makes me sad

Winn’s lousy final year colors that, but even disregarding that he was a solid, averageish outfielder for the rest of his Giants career. And yet, he and a duct-taped-together Moises Alou were the best choices to fill out the all-decade outfield. That’s just sorry.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 15, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it’s more sad that a guy who played a season and less than a half is the third baseman. Nothing against Pablo…

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by jponry on Mar 15, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take one+ season of awesome over multiple seasons of meh.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno. Feliz for all his bashing and his “A HIGH FASTBALL I WILL CRUSH!” /swing and miss was a really good Giant and played stellar defense for us for a long time.

Even though Panda is awesome, 1.5 seasons does not a decade make.

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by scout6 on Mar 15, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I probably would have chosen Feliz. Despite his offense, he was worth 11.7 WAR as a Giant from 02 to 07 (though obviously not all accumulated at third base.) Pablo, of course, in very limited playing time amassed 6.5. Now, there’s no doubt that on a per 162 games basis, or whatever, Pablo was better than Pedro, but I think when we look back and remember our “third baseman of the 00s”, Pedro is probably a better choice.

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by jponry on Mar 15, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

But what's sad about that?

That means we have two guys you could make a legitimate argument for, which is fine.

But 11.7 WAR over six seasons averages less than 2.0 per season, which is right around Aaron Rowand 2009 territory. That doesn’t seem that good.

Incidentally Pablo’s 1-and-a-bit seasons amount to not that many fewer PAs than Alou had in two “full” seasons: 787 vs 868. Alou’s WAR as a Giant totaled 6.0 . Winn’s WAR over 4.5 seasons was 14.0.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But 11.7 WAR over six seasons averages less than 2.0 per season, which is right around Aaron Rowand 2009 territory. That doesn’t seem that good.

No, but in arbitrary decade cutoffs it is a lot more value than anyone else has accumulated. It didn’t come at a fast rate, but it’s still a lot more.

by Missing Barry on Mar 15, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad, Sadder, Saddest

Is it so wrong of me to want to choose Kenny Lofton as our CF of the decade?

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by Roger on Mar 15, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with that, particularly since it mirrors my thinking as well. Getting Lofton made the difference for that team.

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by Lyle on Mar 15, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

RF was kind of a carousel of players from year to year. Jose Cruz Jr., Michael Tucker, Reggie Sanders, Alou, and more.

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by Natto on Mar 15, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dustan Mohr. Never forget Dustan Mohr. Who the fuck holds on to a ball as he breaks his ankle?

by Missing Barry on Mar 15, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I felt so bad for him when he batted like .025

for the first couple of months, so glad when he started hitting and making nice plays in the OF, and then sad again when he did that.

Sort of an allegory for Giants fandom, really.

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"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Mar 15, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Felix Rodriguez was good? All I ever remember about him were the multiple blown leads.

Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!

by quincy0191 on Mar 15, 2010 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

He used his salary to buy a large herd of cattle back in the Dominican.

Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.

by shanghaijim on Mar 15, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, that’s all you’ll ever remember about 90% of relief pitchers.

by Missing Barry on Mar 15, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

My choice for the all-decade catcher isn’t Bengie Molina. It isn’t Benito Santiago. My choice is Buster Posey.

by sharksrog on Mar 15, 2010 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Felix Rodriguez is one of the most underrated Giants. Not that he was great, but that so many seem to think he was lousy.

by sharksrog on Mar 15, 2010 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Disagree with Felix. I’d have chosen Worrell, and though it was 2000, I would have chosen Burks for one of the two OF spots.

by Hobbes2d on Mar 15, 2010 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

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