Bumgarner's velocity is still down
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 12, 2010 9:39 AM PST
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PrintBumgarner was clocked at 94 mph last spring, when he struck out the Dodgers' Manny Ramirez. But his velocity dropped into the high 80s by June, and he hasn't recaptured the crackle on his fastball this spring.
From Andrew Baggarly this morning. It’s far too early in the spring to jump to conclusions, so we should just remain calm. There’s no reason to...
Yeah. Pretty much.
I don’t care if Bumgarner shows up with the 94-mph fastball in his next appearance, he shouldn’t be the fifth starter. Even if it’s a mechanical problem instead of a health issue, there’s no reason to fill a rotation slot with a) a 20-year-old pitcher b) who has never pitched regularly on four days of rest and c) whose fastball velocity has dropped significantly without explanation.
Yeah. Pretty much. It’s just a wee bit obvious to think that. So, of course, the Giants are on board.
Bumgarner remains the top choice among Giants officials to open the season as the No. 5 starter
Dammit. To be fair, it’s not like Bochy can say, "Wow. That kid throws like Kirk Rueter now. He’s going to Fresno for sure." So I hope that they’re already leaning toward Todd Wellemeyer, Joe Martinez, or Steven Johnson. My personal preference is Johnson, if only because he needs to stay on the roster all season for the Giants to keep him.
I’m trying to think of a happy ending to the Bumgarner-lost-his-velocity story, but I really can’t. Not in the short-term, at least. Maybe Beau Mills is still available.
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Bumgarner 4 Fielder
Or Smoak or something.
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My Son was the third most valuable Giant position player by WAR in 2009. A little sad, a little happy.
Might not be a bad idea right now…I wonder what Giants medical staff thinks about his velocity loss?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
heh
Giants medical staff thinks
ISWYDT
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder what Giants medical staff thinks about his velocity loss
/removes Bumgarners rib
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Wait, you guys want Mills? Sold. He needs to show something this year to really become someone to watch again, and our (the Indians’) corner infield spots are becoming pretty crowded anyway.
Oh dammit, I’m a fan on a blog. I keep forgetting I can’t actually make deals.
Steel Nick
Beau Mills sucks. And I’ll be watching him suck all season.
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Wait, you guys want Mills?
It’s a joke based on the pro-Mills fervor when Bumgarner was drafted.
by Grant Brisbee on Mar 12, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
I think most people got it.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Have you been lurking that long??
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I’m kind of a lurker. And no, but I was pretty sure it was a joke.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Damn it, I’m an Indians fan. From now on please spell out every single inside joke for drive-by readers. Thanks in advance.
Steel Nick
Do you live in Cleveland?
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You can visit our friend pikaGiant
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 12, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
When he sobers up
WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
So, like, never?
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by can of corn on Mar 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Cleveland to Miami is probably like a 4-5 hour drive.
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But I thought he was in Ohio anyway
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Miami University in Oxford, OH
(sarchasm?)
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Not really sarcasm, I just need to see again that Miami University is in Oxford which is in Ohio.
Moving to Manila. A holler outside of Chapmanville. In West Virginia.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Manila?
Manila is the capital of the Philippines which were covered in Wednesday’s post. Please stay focused.
What’s kind of funny is that I was a big proponent of the “MadBum for Jose Reyes” proposal. Even IF MadBum is toast, it isn’t clear that that trade would have been smart.
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I would definitely make that trade
Jose Reyes should be fine. He has a thyroid disease. I’m assuming it’s some sort of hypothyroidism because no one has discussed surgical treatment as an option. It may take a few months to fine-tune his medication. Once his meds are titrated, he should be fine with few long-term or short-term problems.
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Then lets dial up Minaya!
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Dial it up to 10!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I can build you one that goes to 12, if you’re willing to pay.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder if any GM uses that as a catchphrase?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Tony Reagins probably does now.
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I'd say 26 GM's do
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I just meant because of the GMJ trade.
Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!
Yeah I know...
Why the Mets would do that deal is beyond me…they already have Angel Pagan as a placeholder until Beltran comes back
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I’m just frustrated by all the pundits being all “OMG HE”Z DUN! HIS HOMRONEZ ARE BROKE!!!". Yeah, no. Jose Reyes should continue to be a good player, even if he isn’t full-speed for a few months.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yeah, baseball pundits are generally kind of silly.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Slighty OT..
Having gone through thyroid issues with Mrs. NVSFG…“within the normal range” is now a phrase I no longer wish to hear. It took over a year for the appropriate dosage and type of meds to kick in. T1,T2,T3 and T4 types of thyroid supplements exsist, as well as multiple combinations thereof. Many medical professionals are very rigid in the application and suggest different treatments.There seems to be a lack of knowledge/understanding regarding treatment of thyroid disease.
After not having much success, we did the research and took the alternatives to the Doctors and pushed through until we found a successful solution. Good Luck Jose :-)
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Sorry to hear you guys had to go through that, but I’m glad the Mrs is doing better. My better professors always remind me that we treat patients, not lab results or radiographs.
I’m not trying to downplay thyroid diseases. They’re difficult to deal with, especially with their propensity to cause mood disturbances. Add the time it takes to get patients feeling normal and it can be quite frustrating. I was more venting about the fact that some pundits are spewing things like "HE"S DUN!" or “INJURY PRONE!”. That’s just incorrect.
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They’re difficult to deal with, especially with their propensity to cause mood disturbances.
Not even going to comment on that, as I would like to stay married. Before she was diagnosed, she did get in her car one day and start driving down to the Bay Area. When I called and asked her where she was going, she said she was going to a Giants game. Couldn’t really argue with that.
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"...once his meds are titrated"
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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Well....
shit. That’s not fun.
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(I think he’s the guy that keeps posting about MadBum and how he’s going to be better than Lincecum this year or something)
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by multiphasic on Mar 12, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody knows when bradleybear will post. He just comes and goes.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
That gives whole new meaning to “Eats, Shoots, and Leaves.”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Mar 12, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t this spring training for the RadarGunz too? Give them some time people!
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The pitchers are ahead of the gunz this time of year
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It's true.
The gunz don’t report for a full week after pitchers and catchers and a huge majority of them have pretty lax offseason training regimens.
Bumgarner was clocked at 94 mph last spring, when he struck out the Dodgers’ Manny Ramirez.
That was 94 mph Canadian.
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Seriously though, I have a hard time looking at his velocity loss as anything other than bad considering that he doesn’t really have any other pitches besides his heater — which has slowed down by 4-6mph. Not all pitchers need velocity to succeed, but it does help, and there is some relation between velocity and being a good pitcher.
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I definitely find it alarming. I’m still hopeful enough to not freak out yet, but I’d like to see how he does in AAA. Velocity always helps pitchers.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Accuracy with those pitches will be key if his velocity has dipped.
I have a feeling something is not being told by the brass to the unwashed masses. Conspiracy theories aside, I hope he can compliment his fastball with a useful off speed pitch.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
/Greg Maddux says hello.
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That’s exactly who I was picturing when I finished writing that
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
MadBum had a 94 MPH fastball early in his career...wait
/ bans self
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wherein “success” = “makes every start and good for 10 wins”
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
That’d be a great LHP for $6M or so. Zito isn’t a terrible pitcher, we’re just paying him three times what he’s worth, and he’s in the same rotation as Timmy and Cain.
Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!
There’s a perfectly logical explanation, Bumgarner hates the Giants for some reason.
/Urban
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions
Bumgarner not motivated
/Passan
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Call him a dirty hippie?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
actually, a damn dirty ape
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
get him on speed?
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Must be the lack of horses.
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by UnleashTheGore on Mar 12, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
No, it’s not time to panic. I got my panicking over with last fall when he quit striking people out. I’ve moved on to fatalism and despair now.
This. I have basically accepted the fact that he is Jesse Foppert.
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At least Foppert had a reason for his career to get derailed...
we don’t know WTF is up with madbum..which is slightly more worrying to me
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I wish a beat writer or reporter would ask a team official about his drop in velocity.
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 12, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I wish a beat writer or reporter would ask a team official about his drop in velocity.
More importantly, would they answer.
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I’ve given up on his pitching career but he seems like he could be a good hitter. He should be taking grounders at first just in case Posey doesn’t work out there.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
seriously
if he ends up in Fresno he should get some ABs
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by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
It says nothing about him not regaining the MPH on his fastball. He just can’t find the crackle. Crackle’s overrated. I can get by without the crackle.
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What about snap and pop?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
It’s still there. 2 out of 3 aint bad. I suggest he drinks less milk. Crackle can get watered down.
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 13, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s hope its just a partial labrum tear, which can be healed with snake oil and mystic voodoo.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Labrum always makes me laugh for some reason
I’m too immature
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Probably because you think labia. I remember when one sportscaster on KNBR said the Giants should stay away from Pedro Martinez because he had a partially torn labia. I laughed myself silly.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I know that's why
just showing my humor sometimes lacks refinement. I fit in well here!
TWSS
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
If that's a TWSS, that's really, really awkward.
Or just lesbians.
Grahamy has cornered the market on crackalacka
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I usually leave it in the center console in the car.
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by can of corn on Mar 12, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
mine is in the glove compartment.
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I'm not worried
I do miss the talk of “Bumgarner being somewhere between Lincecum and Cain” though
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by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 10:01 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
lol
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I’m thinking of taking that girl down in IT. If she’s lucky, she just might get to see my FFFFFFFF face. FFFFFFFF FFFFFF FFFFFFF
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
His crotch is moving at an alarming speed.
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Propellering wildly
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Is it common for prospects to lose so much velocity at his age? Are there any reassuring success stories of prospects getting their velocity back, maybe after correcting a mechanical flaw?
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Satchel Paige lost his velocity for one season. Then miraculously came back throwing high 90’s or triple digits. So there: HOPE
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Paige was known for his ability to throw both left and right handed. He could also eat twelve steaks per sitting.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
You’re thinking of Pablo Sandoval
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by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Satchel Paige could eat Pablo Sandoval?
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That one is true though.
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I have not but Satchel Paige seems like one of the most interesting people in the history of the game, so I’ll add it to my list.
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I enjoyed it than the Willie Mays book actually.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
BLASPHEMER!
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Read it after I finish the Willie Mays one.
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by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Will read it*
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by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
One of the great parts is reading about players like Josh Gibson, Dizzy Dean, Bob Feller, Ted Williams, and Joe DiMaggio – who in one way or another, said he was the greatest pitcher they ever saw or faced.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Frank Sinatra lost his voice for several years and thought he’d never sing again. When it came back it was completely different, the smoky late-night at the bar voice we mostly think of now, rather than the clear tenor he’d been in his big band sex symbol days.
That’s probably not a helpful comparison to baseball, though.
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by shanghaijim on Mar 13, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t believe that Baggs is correct when he says the Giants are “leaning towards Bumgarner” as the fifth starter. Bochy is talking about Bumgarner’s next start being in a minor league game. If he’s not routinely hitting low nineties by the end of spring training, he’ll be at Fresno or being examined by doctors.
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Could be smoke and mirrors to keep his potential trade value up – maybe if the Giants think he’s toast, they may try to move him and get something in return.
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by can of corn on Mar 12, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Ryan Garko
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Beau Mills!
Wait – did I do that right?
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Article about Bumgarner from a scout.
Also, while I like keeping Posey in AAA to delay his service clock, it completely and utterly defeats the purpose of that if it means bringing Bumgarner up. This doesn’t make any sense at all if it happens.
This has nothing to do with anything
but it might cheer some up
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I’d watch that movie, and I no longer am worried about Bumgarner’s velocity.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Glad I could help
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
No problem
thank stephen fry, he tweeted the link. Twitter FTW!
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
That’s where I got it from too!
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OMG HES HOTT
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
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This annoys me. I notice it mostly in comedies, when I go to see a movie and afterwards I realize that a segment of the trailer never came up in the actual movie. I feel led on.
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by Useful_Idiot on Mar 12, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
"Murmurs agreement"
This fucking rules. Thanks.
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I just can’t panic over the possible flameout of a 20-year-old pitcher. Especially when that pitcher is almost major league ready to begin with. Even with a velocity drop, he’s probably headed toward a nice little major league career.
But the bottom line for me is that I can’t possibly justify wanting Bumgarner, who is still raw and obviously not ready for the major leagues, to start in the major leagues and at the same time think that it makes sense to have Posey, who is a polished hitter and obviously more than major league ready, in Fresno.
“Posey – yeah, that guy’s ready for the bigs right now. But let’s accept keeping him at Fresno to save the arb clock.”
“Bumgarner – you know, his velocity’s down and he desperately needs to work on his secondary pitches. Plus he’s only 20. A stint in AAA can only help him while a major league assignment might actually do more harm than good. But fuck proper development. And fuck arb clocks, too. Get that guy up here.”
I just don’t think I can do that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
But the Giants can!
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with this post
Even if Bumgarners velocity never returns than he can still be a 3/4 starter behind Timmy, Cain & Wheeler
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Well, I wouldn’t start trading Sanchez to make a slot for Wheeler just yet.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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True
Although I do think that Wheeler will eventually be better than Sanchez-but right now I think the future rotation is
Timmy
Cain
MadBum
Wheeler
Sanchez
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Well, as that assumes a whole bunch of things going really as right as could possibly be, I’ll go ahead and join that line as well.
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Yeah it is a huge leap of faith
Cain has to remain a Giant for more than the 2 years he is still under contract, Wheeler has to develop as expected, Sanchez has to find consistency and MadBum needs to develop secondary pitches and/or regain velo and Timmy has to, ummm, keep on keepin on
but I can dream
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If Sanchez is going to be the #5 he doesn’t have to find consistency
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fangraphs had an article saying that inconsistency, that is, a wider variation of results, gives better results than consistency, or the same/similar results each time
probably in this case consistency for Sanchez means pitching well all the time, so it’s not exactly the same consistency being talked about, but it’s food for thought nonetheless
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Without looking up the particular article in question, I’m pretty sure they found that inconsistency is desirable only with mediocre/bad pitching. With great pitching, you’d rather get the same great pitching every time out rather than no-hitters and shitty starts.
From a winning standpoint, it’d be more beneficial if Timmy threw 7 IP/2 runs allowed every time out rather 7 IP/0 runs allowed followed by 7 IP/4 runs allowed. The latter would almost invariably lead to about a 0.500 record, whereas the former would probably lead to a 0.650+ record.
With great pitching, you’d rather get the same great pitching every time out rather than no-hitters and shitty starts.
As it represents a distribution about the ERA (or FIP, whatever), I’m pretty sure if a great pitcher became erratic as you’re describing, it would likely raise his ERA/FIP to the point where he is not a “great pitcher”.
As for the Timmy example, I’m pretty sure they said the 0/4 every other start was a better option than 2 every start… I think it was independent of the ERA/FIP itself.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
From a winning standpoint, it’d be more beneficial if Timmy threw 7 IP/2 runs allowed every time out rather 7 IP/0 runs allowed followed by 7 IP/4 runs allowed. The latter would almost invariably lead to about a 0.500 record, whereas the former would probably lead to a 0.650+ record.
For most teams, yes. You’re forgetting these are the Giants. If Timmy allows 2 runs every time we’ll probably lose every one of his starts. :(
by Missing Barry on Mar 14, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes he does.
There are 5 starting pitchers, and the worst one gets to pitch last. But a starter is a starter is a starter, no matter what day he gets to pitch. When Sanchez pitches, he’s a starting pitcher, and he needs to pitch well. The fact that 3 days before Lincecum pitched great has nothing to do with it.
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In this I think “finding consistency” is a sort of shorthand for getting better. When people use it, it doesn’t mean getting a less wide variation around the ERA, but rather having all of the starts be on the better side, rather than the worse side. In actuality, this is just improving overall, but “consistency” is the euphemism.
So if Jonny is a 5, he doesn’t need to “get consistent” (aka just get better as a pitcher) because he’s already good compared to the rest of the 5 starters in the league.
It would be nice, though.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
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by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
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by EliminateMe on Mar 12, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
More distraction
just booted up MLB 10, and they showed Burelrelehrehhreee’s perfect game. God damn, hawk really ruined the moment with that fucking terrible call. Holy shit.
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That was the feather in my I hate Hawk cap. I never thought an announcer could actually ruin a perfect game until then.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Didn’t need that game to push me over the top. I can not listen to any game that man calls.
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I lived in Chicago back in 2005 and used to listen to White Sox games in the car until I just gave up on Hawk. Here’s a only somewhat paraphrase of a conversation he had with his colorman:
Hawk: What, is that someone in bullpen stretching? He should be paying attention to the game!
Colorman: Oh, well, maybe he’s trying to stay loose.
H: What? You get loose before the game! He should be sitting on the bench watching the game now!
CM: But he might substitute and he wants to be ready.
H: He should have gotten ready before the game! That’s not how you play baseball!
He’s awful. Chicago has some of the worst baseball broadcasters I think, including the Cubs.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe it’s just me (and it probably is) but I actually liked his 9th inning call. “Ground ball….ALEXEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII…….YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
That part was OK
but the YESSSS YESSSSS YESSSSSS YESSSSS YESSSS after it totally spoiled the moment. You have to let the moment breathe. He completely talked over it and ruined the whole thing. One reason I love scully is because he makes a great call then lets the fans tell you what happened.
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Today's Lineup, PLAY THE HOPEFULS edition
Torres cf
Lews lf
Schierholtz rf
Posey c
Bowker 1b
Rohlinger 3b
Frandsen ss
Downs 2b
Wellemeyer p
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by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
with a couple of exceptions
i’d be happy to see that lineup everyday.
in Fresno.
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Honestly,
Except for Pablo at 3B and Downs, I would rather see that lineup than the Giants proposed one.
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You did not just dis my son !!!!
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If you insist
Hah! You call that outrage?!
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by EliminateMe on Mar 12, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
My real outrage regarding the Giants left me many years ago. Had it not, I would have died of a heart attack. I suppose I could have used bold and all caps.
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I would have just mocked it all the more.
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by EliminateMe on Mar 12, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Clearly this is the B squad, from top to bottom.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Ford should be in there. He runs fast real good.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Mar 12, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
That is what is funny about this lineup
You just know Bochy is looking at it that way. The only exception may be Juggernate.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Its really really really really interesting and awesome Bowker is getting another look at 1b
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He needs longer arms to be a 1B.
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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I also like this. He’ll have to beat out Posey of course, but Posey clearly lacks the experience to understand baseball as a first baseman.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Meh… somehow he seems useless to me as a first baseman. Completely disposable at that position.
I guess if it gets his bat in the lineup, though, he can always go back to the outfield later….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
He isn’t disposable if you have no faith in Aubrey Huff.
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We still have Ishikawa.
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I only remind you because he A) actually out-hit Huff last year and B) is easily the best defensive player of the three.
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Exactly, compared to most first baseman, Bowker is not impressive. Compared to Huff and Ishikawa, he’s the best offensive option for first base.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
How can you make that claim. The guy has hardly had a chance to prove himself.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
But realistically, he’s a 27 year-old semi-prospect who has only really given anybody reason for hope in 450 of his career 2,400 professional at bats.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
That’s true, but again, compared to Huff and Ishikawa, I think he still looks pretty good. And that’s kind of sad.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
His EL season was pretty outstanding as well, especially given the difference in hitting environments between Norwich and Fresno. His OBP took a significant leap up in his AAA year, but .307/.363/.523 at Dodd was nothing to scoff at, and he was only 23 when he did it.
it was really yanking him up to the big leagues in Weird Roster Move #1708 of the 2008 season that makes Bowker’s AAA season like an anomaly rather than a steady development from his AA season.
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Sarchasm? Or a valid point that we actually don’t know if Bowker’s AAA approach will stick in the Majors?
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Completely disposable at that position.
I don’t understand. He would be half a win more valuable in the OF, which is not a small deal, but I don’t think makes him “disposable” at 1B, especially if he can play defense as well as Huff.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Well, maybe not disposable per se in terms of the roster we have or the history of our GM to actually find first basemen who are worth much more than replacement level.
But he should be disposable. His bat is not good for a first baseman. And his glove probably isn’t either. That’s a player that doesn’t have a rosy future at first base.
I suppose, though, that if he manages to get it together with the bat I could be made to look back at this and laugh.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I think Bowker’s performance in Fresno last year necessitates an actual evaluation at the ML level. I think making any claims about him (other than he is an unknown quantity at the ML level with a superb season at AAA) are premature.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Uh. What do you call the whopping 73 PA he received last season?
(now THAT is sarcasm)
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Enough for me, DFA the bastard.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I completely agree, and you’re right that he’s still unproven. If the Giants were smart they’d recognize that their current first base plan is likely worth so little that going with an unknown with some upside is a good move.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t specifically disagree with that. I’d like to see him prove or disprove himself at the major league level, too, but I also think that skepticism is warranted. If playing first base gets him at bats now, I’m fine with that. Skeptically, I really can’t believe that his combination of bat and glove will be able to stick there long-term.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
In the sense that all minor-player should be viewed with skepticism, I agree. Although, Bowker has what most minor league players don’t have: an outstanding season of constant production, and not just evaluated from a traditional analytic way, but from an Internets Nerd way.
One of my laments about post-Moneyball (or whatever you want to call it) baseball fans (I’m not calling you out Howie), is that we constantly yearn for more data to evaluate players, we claim that minor-league numbers mean something – especially at the higher levels, and then we disregard players because they don’t perform well in situations where they don’t get constant ABs, are shuttled back and forth by management, or evaluated in the context of Spring Training. There is sometimes a lack of consistency in the thought process.
John Bowker has shown enough that he deserves a legitimate shot at the ML level. He might fall on his face, but I doubt it. I think his offensive floor is better than Schierholtz, or at this point Rowand. Currently the Giants are wasting that opportunity, because, yes he is getting older, and at some point he will be too old to be considered a prospect anymore.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well, for my part, I think that his entire minor league career has been somewhat less than stellar. He’s never been a standout prospect, except for during his age 26 AAA season. I don’t think his limited major league experience means anything right now, but I do think that his entire minor league career adds up to a player who isn’t likely to turn heads.
I’m not willing to disregard what he did in AAA last year, but I’m also not willing to let it make me disregard the fact that he’s never done anything resembling that at any other point in his life at any level anywhere.
I think his ceiling as a hitter is better than Schierholtz, and I think he’s already shown that he can reach higher heights with the bat than Schierholtz. I don’t think that his floor is better than Schierholtz, though. I think the two of them have had fairly similar production for their entire careers, with Bowker having a little more potential but Schierholtz being a little bit younger.
I think both of them deserve shots, but neither one really excites me. And I base that on as much of their full careers as possible. Bowker’s had almost 2,500 professional at bats if you take his entire career. Only 450 of those have made him look good. Those 450 were very encouraging, particularly for being recent, but getting too excited over it seems to me to be ignoring too much of the rest of his history.
It is enough to warrant ML time. I’m just skeptical. Maybe more skeptical than most.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
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Meant to put this here:
His EL season was pretty outstanding as well, especially given the difference in hitting environments between Norwich and Fresno. His OBP took a significant leap up in his AAA year, but .307/.363/.523 at Dodd was nothing to scoff at, and he was only 23 when he did it.
it was really yanking him up to the big leagues in Weird Roster Move #1708 of the 2008 season that makes Bowker’s AAA season like an anomaly rather than a steady development from his AA season.
Also, last year was his age 25 season.
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Well, laying it out like that helps ease the skepticism a little.
But how is 2009 his age 25 season, when he was born in 1983? Is it age when the season starts?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm… I mostly just follow what Baseball Reference says on the season age so I don’t actually have to think about it, but it has to do with the age you play the majority of the season at. I’m not sure exactly where the cutoff point is but it’s somewhere around July 1. Bowker was born July 8, so he’s really one of those cusp types, like those people who share two zodiac traits.
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Your skepticism is sensible, but to me it’s hard to believe that a guy who could be that good in nearly a full season in AAA doesn’t have some serious talent. I know, I know, Todd Linden, but on the other hand Nelson Cruz.
Todd Linden really is my fear.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
If the alternative is Aubrey Huff, though, is that really much of a risk? Worst is he’s Linden and we get Aubrey Huff-like production….. ;)
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’m not saying that he shouldn’t be playing. He should be playing. And if first base is where that happens, okay. I’m just don’t think that he should be a first baseman any longer than he absolutely has to be to get at bats.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
That is definitely true, and I hope he maintains that versatility (it gets WINZ) and can still play left field should the Giants ever manage an actually good first baseman.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
I can feel the hope rising in my pants.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 12, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Aubrey Huff can help you get rid of that, in so many ways.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Man, the Warriors really picked up a lot of players from the D league to field this lineup, didn’t they?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
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by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
A pitcher’s velocity in the 2nd week of Spring Training games is not worth noting at all.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 12, 2010 10:25 AM PST reply actions
Absolutely, but the drop during last season is what’s really alarming. I think people hoped it would be back up by now. Maybe after more time getting back into pitching it will be, but the drop last season is what’s really concerning people I think.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
There was stiff competition.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Aren’t you linked to your penis?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
propellering wildly?
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by bondslegend on Mar 12, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
So, I’m at work, and half of the pictures that are posted on this site are blocked by The Man. I’m really hoping that there isn’t a .gif here that I can’t see. However, I am glad that I can’t see it if it is actually there.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I left it in the center console of my car
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Missile
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Lars’ penis is detacheable
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Technically they all are. It’s the reattaching that’s tricky.
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by can of corn on Mar 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
When you get a chance
I’d like it back. I believe I left it in the center console of your car.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Can you identify which one is yours?
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
It is the one with the SF GIANTS tattoo on it
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
but barely legible, as it’s probably old and shriveled, so look closely
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
This is true
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Bet you regret that
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I am probably lucky that I can't see this pic
But as for regrets, here was my reasoning:
I thought the tattoo would be a nice way for the Giants to fuck someone else for a change. I needed a respite.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
its the pick form the NorCali poster who got a SF tattooed on his chest.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
What is the deal with the stars? I see a lot of people with those.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 12, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of people use the nautical star as a symbol for Northern California, but it has other meanings too.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
n1pp3l
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 12, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
I never noticed before, but the “by” in “by say hey nation” is a link to a Twitter comment. Huh.
Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/3/12/1369898/bumgarners-velocity-is-still-down#32440773
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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/backs slowly away from can of corn
Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.
by EliminateMe on Mar 12, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
First, you shouldn’t back away. That leaves you exposed. Second, you should not go slowly – I’m quick.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Mar 12, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Tony Bennett’s second most famous song.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Mar 12, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That guy leaves organs everywhere.
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 12, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
SAUSAGE LINKS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
As you may imagine
I agree with that statement. Unless it’s a euphemism for penis.
Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!
Get your mind out of the gutter!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
I was just outside taking a break from staring at my computer
And two very large geese landed about 10 feet away from me. They stood there honking loudly for about 10 minutes and then flew away. The geese were so large that it looked funny that they could actually fly.
To make this relevant to the subject at hand, neither goose was cooked.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions
If this were an M Night Shyamalan movie, I’d be quietly frightened.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
did they take off with your penis?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
With Lars’s penis. LARS’s penis. His penis is the only one we ever talk about.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Goofus disagrees
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
oh, so now you’re the boss of goofus?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
rec’d
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
You can use the molten goose grease and save it in the refrigerator, thus saving you a trip to the store for a can of expensive goose grease.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Natto with the culinary tip...
Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
NATTO DOWN THE STRETCH NERBS
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
neither goose was cooked.
I know who Brian Sabean would hire to start that process.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Wacky formatting there.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Also
Somehow the “by” next to his handle links to this. Most curious.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
That can be explained: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/3/10/1366703/the-personal-side-of-baseball#32340016
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Meaning
You want a goose that’ll lay gold eggs for Easter. At least a hundred a day. And by the way…
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
what's up with the MLB Radio?
no audio links today
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
it appears that all the grapefruit games have been cancelled. must be some terrorist stuff going on.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
is it raining in cactus land, too?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Yay--Links!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
I’d love to give whoever thought of that name a session of analraping.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Sabean signs him to 7 year contract.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 12, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Now, now, maybe he was just working on the change-up yesterday.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
On the bright side
Henry Sosa’s having a heck of a spring. A healthy Sosa could be like found money.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Tinypic
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
Why else do you think he’s sighing?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Zing!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 12, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
interesting...
I can still see it. Is that because it’s in my cache?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 12, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Mar 12, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember: TINSTAAPP
There Is No such Thing As A Propellering Penis
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I can disprove this theory.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 12, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Pics or it didn’t happen.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
I don’t have anything blocking pictures, so please no, thanks.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
by theghostofjasonellison on Mar 12, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
How freaked out are we?
Enough to move Neal up to #2 on the Community Prospect List?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Let’s see how Neal starts in Fresburg before we get too excited.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 12, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
My personal preference is Johnson
Oh, come on. We exhausted the Johnson jokes last year. How about some Puce?
(oof, that was a stretch)
(bonus game: count the TWSS)
A start for Kevin Pucetas is a start for Not Bumgarner. And don't you want Not Bumgarner in the Giants rotation?
The song for Bumgarner
http://www.metrolyrics.com/panic-switch-lyrics-silversun-pickups.html
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Needs more Linkin Park.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
That’s how I felt about the Olympics this year.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve become so numb
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
The architects for the new Marlins stadium would have hooked that shit up, dude.
Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!
I dont really feel like panicking.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
satisfied?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
THat sounds more like satisfaction than panic. Needs more “a” and less “h”
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHLAALALAALALLALALLAYEEEEEHOOOOOO
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Mar 12, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well then you don’t have to come to panic picnic.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
I HATE panic panic. Nothing is stupider than beginning to panic that you might panic.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
You didn’t see the hidden food.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
damnit
who has two thumbs and won’t ever visit that site again? Hi, I’m UTG, nice to meet you.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 12, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Courtesy of UTG
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
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Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 12, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously?
Awww nuts!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 12, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Is that Bochy in the catcher’s gear?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I’d say it is, but the head looks a little too small to me.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 12, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Hey!
I live in the city where that team is!
...Tater Salad
by nick217Giantsfan on Mar 13, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell is Rafael Cova?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:45 PM PST reply actions
You.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 12, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Then who is Pedro Feliz?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Yu.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Wii
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 12, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Darvish?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Some dude.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for all the helpful responses. As always.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, this is what happens when I don’t know the answer to a question.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
If he's this testy at 16, the onset of adult life should be spectacular.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Ahem, 17.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Well, pardonnez moi!
I seem to have forgotten how when you haven’t many years under your belt how each one can be an epic mark of achievement, and to not be credited with the correct total is a flagrant insult of the most dire order!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Shh… don’t distract.
It’s his bedtime now.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
At this point I feel like banging on his window every two hours.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Im an insanely deep sleeper. I sleep through it all, storms, earthquakes, coyotes, etc.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 13, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
I napped through a jackhammer once.
Said jackhammer was thirty feet away.
Hope you did well.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 13, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Me too.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 14, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
A pitcher for the Giants
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
it's the goatee
Goatees add velocity (and awesomeness) for closers, but cripple starters. It has been proven scientifically.
Goatees also add gameryness, thus he is not allowed to shave it.
by microwave donut on Mar 12, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions
lol500 bucks
I did get a big ass tax refund but it’s already spent.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Why, did you find one?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
At your mom’s house! BURN
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Mar 12, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Thought about it. But not really a necessity now.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Mar 12, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
I'm always averse to v1 anyway
I’d like to see what happens when there are apps that are more specific for it. See if there is anything compelling that can be done with it.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
No I bought when when it was called the iphone.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
This. I don’t understand where the desire for an oversized iPhone comes from. The fact that you can make calls, so you only have to carry that device, plus it’s actually portable, makes the iPad seem ridiculous.
Possible uses for your Steven Johnson: 5th starter, long reliever, batboy, go-fer, food taster. Just keep him on the roster!
Other than itunes' domination of legal downloads, I don't get the attraction of anything Apple.
Well, I guess they have some decent audio/video editing software, but that’s pretty niche.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
INFIDEL! We shall flay you with our earbud cords! (whipping noises)
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of earbuds...
What a travesty of function following form, my ear canal is decidedly no perfectly circular. Worst Earphones Ever.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I like 'em.
I wear mine primarily when cycling. Contrary to sensible thought I like to block out as much ambient noise as possible, and when you jam those suckers in they do a fine job of that.
I ‘d like to cheerfully throw a pie into the faces of the Sony R/D Dept. I replaced my fave phones the other day and the changes they felt compelled to make aren’t very user – friendly. That and the price nearly doubled in less than a year.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 13, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
I got the Klipsch S4i in-ear buds with headset functionality over Christmas. It took awhile to figure out just how to wear them and what eartips to use (they come with small, medium and large). It took several searches through their website to see pictures of the eartips just resting slightly inserted into the opening of the ear canal and held there by a slight vaccuum you create by gently tugging them after you insert them. After all this malarkey, they sound really good.
You know what also sound good? The original Beats by Dr. Dre. A lot crisper and sparklier than the marketing made them seem. Also, hella comfortable. Only downside for me, the noise-cancellation isn’t exactly cancellation and requires 2 batteries. Oh yeah and they cost $300.
What are really good for price/quality are the old-skool Koss PortaPro’s. They look like they’re from the 80s, which they are, but they sound so good Koss never changed the design. It’s amazing how something that looks and seems so flimsy could have such good bass and full mids. And they have a lifetime no-questions-asked warranty. My issue with them was, I have an iPhone, and I’d prefer a headset function, which the Beats and the Klipsch have.
I also have Grado SR60 cans. I like them but their cord is way too long and thick for iPhone listening. More like phonograph listening. I love their retro 40s look though. I can play war radarman.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 13, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, they're awful
I would have thrown them out if they didn’t also work as a hands free
by microwave donut on Mar 15, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Other than the fact that OSX is so far and above better than any other OS available
I don’t get the attraction either.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Mar 13, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
You’ve obviously never tried to cuddle a laptop in bed before.
… or you do, and like it. But that’s between you and xanthan.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
how was south america?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
This place is such a shit hole… but it has been fun, i decided i should stay in tonight since two of my friends already blacked out at the beach, now passed out finally. My other two friends went to see a movie, and the last roommate just decided to chill and smoke instead, so that’s where we’re at now… And i don’t think i’ve seen so many fucking douche’s in my life here, the guys act like their shit don’t stink, and the girls here are just so so soooo dumb
spring brake
I missed the other “where’s pika?” threads, where is this post coming from?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Where does anything come from here… but yea i just was gone for so long people were like “where the fuck is pika” so i was like, yea i’m in Panama City, FL, and i’ve just seen boobs and lots of dudes with tattoos and muscles for 5 straight days
Notice he did not specify if those boobs were on women.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Nor whether what he’d seen was in real life or on an endless succession of porn DVDs.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I’m panicking about this.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Come to the picnic then!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 13, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Im taking the SATs tomorow for the first time.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 10:04 PM PST reply actions
I’m taking a standardized test tomorrow too but not the SAT. (I’m taking the CSET: English).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Have any SAT wisdom to share?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone? The test is in 9 and a half hours.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
I am an SAT teacher so… LOL. Uh…
- make sure to pay attention for what answer they’re looking for in the math section because they like to trick you
- if you’re not sure what to do for a math problem get your pencil moving and write down what you do know and see if that opens any possibililties up for you
- don’t feel like you have to answer every single question in every section,
- on the essay, don’t try to write a fantastic essay. make sure you have an introduction (with thesis and your examples previewed), a body (with two specific examples – try Martin Luther King and Gandhi, they’ll work for any prompt) and a conclusion.
that’s all I’ll give you for free.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Drink lots of coffee,t he hardest part was getting up at 7 on a Saturday.
I thought it was ridiculously easy, but I took it almost 10 years ago.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Don't
drink coffee unless you normally do.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Or your mind will accelerate wildly, like a frisky Toyota Prius.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
The test is in 9 and a half hours.
Then hopefully you’re asleep right now.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
uh oh
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, seriously, the best thing you can do for yourself is get a good night’s sleep. Go to bed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
G’night. Thanks for the advice.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
I alwasy laugh when I hear that advise.
I don’t know about other people, but the times I actually need some sleep are pretty much the times I end up staring at the ceiling until 6 in the morning.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Well, obviously it’s not the same for everyone. But me, personally, if I don’t get at least 6 hours of sleep the night before a test, I’m fairly incoherent the next day.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I didn't say I was coherent
I just have a pretty reliable case of need-induced insomnia. The more I want to fall asleep, the later I end up actually doing it.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
exercise and write in those cases so you don’t think in bed
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Mar 13, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I usually get nervous and cant sleep. Not last night though. I really wasnt that nervous.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 13, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
If you get to bed by 11:30 you should be alright, but my preference is to get quite a bit of sleep before any sort of test. More than usual, if you can get it.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Take the ACT
It’s easier (I got a really, really high score with zero prep) and the curve is typically nicer.
Not sure how it has been affected by the new SAT, but it’s worth considering.
martinez has also lost some of his stuff
I know he is older, but shouldn’t that bother the McCoven?
I don’t think Joe Martinez had quite the same pedigree or expectations as Madison Bumgarner. Also I really don’t think his stuff was very good to begin with (though I still think he could be a serviceable 5th starter.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
plus, HE WAS HIT IN THE HEAD RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME :(((
i’m happy he’s alive
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 12, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Also he WENT TO BOSTON COLLEGE.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t know if you guys knew that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t think that’s ever been mentioned here.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Well then
Joe Martinez is a graduate of THE BOSTON COLLEGE, YO!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
What is going on with Joey right now? MRI for elbow inflamation doens’t so good even if they didn’t find anything torn.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Passing on jason heyward
Velocity drop or not w/ Bummy, looking back now any reason why we passed on heyward? bonus demands? hometown discount to braves?
At the time, I guess we considered Fairley a comparable highschool OF and seemed like a potential steal later in that round. Weren’t there Carl Crawford
comparisons?
signing bonus:
bumgarner $2 million
heyward $1.7 million
wcw puppet account?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Actually, the IP belongs to somebody who was previously banned.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 16, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
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