The velo drop was bad, and made him a worse pitcher. He developed mediocre offspeed and breaking stuff pretty quickly, which should have brought it back up, considering he’s only 20 and has at least a couple more years to really make those into plus pitches. I think Bumgarner can be a good #2, arguable #1 with a 90 MPH fastball, a plus curve, and a meh changeup with his arm action, which is an entirely obtainable goal. If he ever gets the velocity back, the 93 MPH fastball, plus curve, and meh changeup will make him a #1 level guy.

it’s all about snapping the wrist to put spin on the disc,

WELL…IT’S OBVIOUS YOU’VE NEVER PLAYED THE GAME.

Just kidding, drop the – I mean please put down the banhammer.

  Just as some torque from the core is necessary to help develop power in a baseball swing there’s torque and arm motion necessary to hurl a 175g into a beach breeze.

Yes, that snap is necessary for stability through RPMs, but it won’t go anywhere without added thrust.

VELOCITY is an indicator of a pitcher’s ability to develop more movement on their breaking pitches (more arm speed = more spin).

I beg to differ.

   Isn’t snapping off a curve a marriage of both thrust and spin, where the pitcher generates forward motion with his pushoff followed by the core rotation/shoulder/arm extension and whip, but also that insanely painful looking torquing of the wrist and hand? It’s a combination of forces that actually work against each other, and each pitcher has to find the happy medium of applied force to both in order to realize the optimum effect.

  I’m no Mike Marshall, but I suspect that superior arm/wrist mechanics that generate increased spin would result in a better curve, as opposed to how fast the ball moved forward.

  Too much velocity will overwhelm the bite of the curve. Like some bowlers on the PBA tour, where the ball gets down and then breaks over when forward thrust has been lessened by friction with the floor to the point that the rotation pulls it over. If either the pitcher or the bowler applies too much forward thrust the spin is negated accordingly.

   Must be a lot of fun when you lose that "feel" for the right application of either thrust or torque. I hope he finds whatever makes him effective, or we’re all going to be not so much Pedro Feliz as Sadison Bummedgarner.

Plus imagine all the potential Offspring references!

I like Holland, but he should still be in the minors.

Also, Cain & that ballpark are not a good match.

I see Cain’s Fly Ball rate as an extreamely risk proposition for the Rangers unless Arlington keeps flyballs in better than I think it does. Of coarse if the risk paided off the Rangers could expect to reduce the middle relief work load in 2010 by what 70 Innings say give or take 10? That would improove 2 25 mans spots in one move.

 What are the last 4 under 30 year old brought into the organization, Davis (DFA then to A’s), Klesko ( DFA then to the M’s), Jose Castile (enough said) and Ford ( a 26 year minor leaguer yet to play above A ball). Am I missing any one here? Maybe there is Denker in there somewere. I just can’t Sabean moveing a guy with a record of throwing 200 IP in a trade for a guy that has not thrown more then 170innings in a season yet.

THERE IS NO CRYIN’ IN BASEBALL!!!!

The Giants philosophy seems to be the opposite of Bill Walsh: they rather trade sign a guy 2 years too late than a year too soon ever trade him.

ftfy

Bill Walsh: won three Super Bowls, basically created the team that won a fourth.
Brian Sabean: had the second-best hitter in the history of the game for almost fifteen years. Lost one World Series, went to the post-season three other times.