Community Rejection: Fred Lewis
by Grant on Mar 11, 2010 1:21 PM PST
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From a Mychael Urban chat session:
OK, let's get rolling. Which member of McCovey Chronicles or Athletics Nation wants to rip me first?
Hey! Play nice, gentle readers. Please do not troll the Urban. But that’s not the relevant quote:
a prediction: … (Fred) Lewis is cut loose near the end of camp.
Urban is probably right, though I’ll guess that the Giants have a decent chance of extracting a token "prospect." The good news is that the prospect has a 5% chance of turning into Darren Ford, who has a 25% chance of turning into Rajai Davis, who has a 1.35% chance of turning into Kenny Lofton. So, yeah, we’re sittin’ pretty.
What happened? Take a spin around last year’s Lewis projection thread, you’ll see plenty of optimism. Lewis was the only hitter who could take a walk, so a lot of us thought he’d be the only non-panda worth penciling in the 2011 roster. Flash-forward a year, and Lewis might be given away.
If a team can’t find a fifth-outfielder slot for a speedy guy with a .355 career on-base percentage, that team must be stacked. That, or they might not care so much about the witchery that is "on-base percentage."
I can understand playing DeRosa over Lewis – similar OBP, but DeRosa has more power.
I can understand starting Rowand in center – Lewis is quick, but he’d drive us mad playing centerfield.
I can understand playing Nate Schierholtz over Lewis – Nate has a better minor league history, and he's a better defensive fit for right field.
I can understand keeping Torres on the roster over Lewis – there should always be at least one true center fielder on the bench, and Torres also adds a touch of lefty-thumping.
So we’re at the fifth-outfielder’s spot. Lewis would fit nicely here. The haters chime in here, saying things like "Lewis drives me nuts when he plays the outfield! He takes weird routes! He makes stupid baserunning mistakes! He just isn’t a heady baseball player!" I can see your point. I disagree with the premise that it adds up to Lewis being a below-average player, but I can see how he’s a frustrating player to watch. However, the alternative is to keep Eugenio Velez. There isn’t a weirder route-taking, more stupid baserunning mistake-making, just as unheady baseball player in the game. He can out-Lewis Lewis in any given game.
The argument for Velez, in two simple bullet points:
- He can play second base poorly, which makes a difference on a team that will likely have three other players who can play second base.
- He got hot when he was called up in July, and because that streak had an easily identifiable starting point, it means more than getting hot in the middle of the season. Heck, Lewis hit .300/.401/.438 Velez was called up, but Lewis made the mistake of burying that good performance in the middle of the season. He was already on the roster. Velez brought a spark! and a jolt! to the lineup, so he was better.
I just don’t get it. Well, I do. The Giants don’t care much for OBP, and they overreact to small samples. I wonder how many other teams in the league would choose Velez over Lewis. I bet most of the bad teams would even take Lewis.
Comment starter: Have I ever mentioned my theory that the Giants don’t care much for OBP, and they overreact to small samples? I think this is the first time. So please discuss this pioneering, groundbreaking exposé. You know your mind was just blown.
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Good. I hope he gets cut. He deserves better.
by Missing Barry on Mar 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This is where I belong.
Decent Player, Speed, OBP, can take a pitch, marginal power, decent defense that just looks scary. What’s not to like ? Hope he gets a shot to play somewhere.
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Go Fred!
If they won’t play him, and they won’t, I hope they cut him loose.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
What if it made the team worse?
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Worse
than him wearing a groove into the dugout bench? Of course I want them to play him, but it’s already like having 24 guys on the roster as it is.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
I like Fred. I want him as an individual to succeed. Unless we’re going to play him a lot, I’d rather see him move on and get a shot, even if the team is a bit worse off, because I root for both individuals and teams. In this case, the individual wins out because of how the Giants are trying to ruin his career.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
Is that java? I haven’t programmed in Java/C++ in a long time……
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
that would work in C++
if you overloaded the = operator and added some semicolons. Not in java though, and the formatting is all screwed up.
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Hmmm, it’s been way too long (like 7 years long?) since I’ve used them….
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
good for you
Java is the worst.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
seriously.
pain in my ass.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
then again
i’m a C# programmer, so what do i know.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
If (Player.GetType() == typeof(GoodSoldier) && Player.HasHotStreak())
{
Bochy.BORK;
} else
{
Sabes.RuinCareer(Player);
}
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Fair enough.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
This makes me angry and sad
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Thanks to roger
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yes
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
RIP Fred
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL YOULL HAVE TO FIND A NEW FAVURITE PLAYER LOL
lOL
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
International Out Loud?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Incontinent Out Loud
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
That explains a lot, actually.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a lower case L. It was a caps lock joke.
I’m sure it’s funny now that I’ve explained it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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It’s always funnier after it’s been explained.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Just like Doonsbury.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Wow, without even looking at his BR page, I basically just gave you Fred Lewis’ almost-exact career averages in every one of those stats, adjusted for ABs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
NERB
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
this place is crawling with nerbs
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
what are you
some kind of rain man or something?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'm an excellent driver
Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !
I don’t really think he’ll end up in Oakland, but I’m terrible at this team speculation stuff. Originally I had put SDP. Then I thought, “No, wait…” so I put “NMY” and thought the same thing, and ended up just settling on a Rajai Davis reunion, if they even ever played together.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Why not oakland? They’ve been collecting OF all year.
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 11, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I told you I was bad at this.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
LOLoptimism!
My Fred Lewis projection last year:
AB: 568
BA: .267
OBP: .334
SLG: .455
HR: 16
SB: 24/38
Defense: +4 in LF
And I was one of the more conservative projections!
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Man, it really is hard sometimes to follow a team that doesn’t look at baseball the same way I do.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions
“I’m the GM of a team that plays a game with this odd-looking cube. Just look at it. That’s one odd shape for a cube.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
if he plays somewhere
I’ll peg his line at .270 / .360 / .410.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
WE’RE IN THIS THING!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
TWSS
That’s gotta be the WORST slogan since 2003 when we were bombarded with Mr. Bring it Home.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
I liked those commercials though.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Those ads drove me nuts. Then again, it could have been my bitterness showing through because they canceled the 2002 World Series.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
theres a bat for that
Les Plack = more chicks
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Chose the Saints and the under to win my bet with my ex gf...i'm on a roll.
by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
constipated? there’s a crap for that
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Jesus, I wish I didn’t think this is what will happen.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Too thin. It must be somebody else.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Kirstie Alley squared?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Mar 11, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
kirstie alley fibonaccied?
Les Plack = more chicks
Yahoo FFL champ 2009
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
Chose the Saints and the under to win my bet with my ex gf...i'm on a roll.
by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 11, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
You can’t ever just play along, can you?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. Before she found that deep-fryer in the attic.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
also the one next to the bed, and the bathroom sink, and stairs, then the elevator, and then she had one installed near the couch, then near…..
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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The same character was also later played by Robin Curtis.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Hopefully the folks over in Draft-land will continue dragging your feet, and you’ll be able to snag a somewhat decent replacement for Fred.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
*their feet
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
If not, I’ll just take a minor leaguer who I’m fond of but who nobody else will probably take, like Chris Gloor or Kaohi Downing.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Little known fact
The reason why Saavik stayed on Vulcan: she was pregnant with Spock’s child.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I’m guessing this is from a novel or something equally non-canonical?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh come on
What do you think she did to help Spock get through ponfar?
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Well, there is that, yeah.
We re-watched the Star Trek movies a while back, and I was amazed how obvious it was what was going on there.
Another thing I had missed in previous viewings: in Star Trek IV, when they’re rescuing Chekov from the hospital in the Mission District, you can hear several intercom messages in the background; one of them is paging “Dr. Ben Dover.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Sensual massage.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
also
Now you’ve got me thinking of Star Trek starring characters who’ve slept together. There are a lot!
At least three for Worf alone!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Was Data the first TNG character to get any action?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
That was only the second episode, so I’m pretty sure he was!
Of course, it was clear from the pilot that Troi and Riker had slept together, but that had been years earlier. Also, Troi called Riker “Bill.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Picard and Crusher were sort of in the same boat, too. It’s clear they slept together even though Jean-Luc ordered her husban Jack Crusher to his death.
Also, it’s likely Riker & Ro hooked up in the episode where their memories were wiped by those aliens looking to have the Enterprise finish a war for them.
I always figured Dr. Crusher and Picard had had an affair prior to Jack Crusher’s death, which led to their estrangement. OMG WESLEY IS PICARDS SON
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 11, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Well, there's also my imagination
Dr. McCoy still was pretty darn frisky in his cameo from Encounter at Farpoint.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I know you're going to tell me something obvious but...
who was the third?
Troi
Jadzia Dax
…?
Oh, wait, he slept with Ezri Dax also, right?
Though, it’s not surprising because Worf was a stud.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Troi, Jadzia & Ezri Dax, K’Ehylar (Alexander’s mom), probably that half Klingon/half Romulan chick he met on the Klingon-Romulan prison planet… at least that many in the show.
Worf: Intergalactic playa.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Worf got around, but Riker and Troi were the real sluts of TNG.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Riker and Troi: Intergalactic sluts.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Riker slept with a hologram — or, at the very least, wanted to! You know he queued up another sexy lady program the day after Minuette crashed.
Didn’t Geordi sleep with a hologram?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
No
But that’s the real life version of the hologram thought.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Oh yeah, that’s right.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
As I recall, in the final episode
It was said or implied in the future timeframe that they were married.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
also, in Voyager
Janeway fucked a hologram. Or at least had a “Relationship” with one.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
And who the hell knows what Seven of Nine was assimilating in Unimatrix Zero or with those Borg optical implants.
It’s rumored that she got her name because she was given the task of sleeping with nine men in a prescribed time limit, and only got to seven of them.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
My prediction:
Fred Lewis will go Seven of Nine this year.
/auto-defenestrates
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Please fire Brian Sabean.
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Me
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Seven's backstory always annoyed me
Because it made mincemeat out of the Borg backstory. In TNG, nobody had the slightest notion the Borg existed until Q sent the Enterprise off to Borg space – and the Borg didn’t know the Federation existed until then, they were very clear on that point – but Seven’s parents were flying off across the galaxy (with a small child in tow!) chasing “rumors” of the Borg. Yeah, okay.
Also, the name “Seven” – the use of a number designation came from “I, Borg,” but in that case it was “Third of Five.” So she should’ve been called Seventh of Nine.
/ubernerd
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I never understood why they didn’t just have Seven be someone who was assimilated at the Battle of Wolf 359. That would’ve been a more interesting backstory, aside from making more sense!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Agreed.
But most everything about Voyager pissed me off. Except the finale. I thought the finale was breathtakingly ludicrous and kinda stupid — everything the show ever was and more.
Well come on, who hasn’t slept with a hologram?
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
There’s a reason I don’t let anybody near my box of baseball hologram cards.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
I bet you subscribe to all the Sportsflix fetish sites, Howie.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I subscribe to their newsletters.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Scott Adams wrote up in The Dilbert Future that the holodeck would bring about the end of humanity. Brilliant comedy here:
For those of you who only watched the ‘old’ Star Trek, the holodeck can create simulated worlds that look and feel just like the real thing. The characters on Star Trek use the holodeck for recreation during breaks from work. This is somewhat unrealistic. If I had a holodeck, I’d close the door and never come out until I died of exhaustion. It would be hard to convince me I should be anywhere but in the holodeck, getting my oil massage from Cindy Crawford and her simulated twin sister.
Holodecks would be very addicting. If there weren’t enough holodecks to go around, I’d get the names of all the people who had reservations ahead of me and beam them into concrete walls. I’d feel tense about it, but that’s exactly why I’d need a massage.
I’m afraid the holodeck will be society’s last invention.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
How is Caprica? I tried watching one episode, but I was distracted to begin with and it failed to win my attention.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been enjoying it. I’m not as sucked in as I was with BSG though.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Reasons To Hate Hulu, Pt. 3
I’ve seen the Caprica pilot and the subsequent episode, because the freaking teasers don’t have any more.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 11, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
For anyone who hasn’t read why the future won’t be like Star Trek, you need to read Adams’ take on it:
http://www.troutman.org/humor/startrek.html
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Although Wesley had the distinction of nailing Ashley Judd.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
It's a little known fact, by the way
That Teri Hatcher made an appearance in TNG, where she obviously slept with someone she just met. It was a guest star, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Terrible episode, by the way. Also guest starred Joe Piscopo as an unfunny comedian.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh, that one!
That’s the one where Data tries to understand humor on the holodeck!
Oh, man, that episode is awesome (unintentionally).
Data telling a joke with his arm movements and voice inflection…
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Of all the bats the Giants have had over the last few years… his was the most… human….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
You forgot the lip twitch
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Rec'd
Excellent.
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
the giants will leave fred like they did kevin frandsen…
marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead organization.
buried alive
buried alive
buried alive
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
You're gonna have to help me with this one
I can’t quite figure what part of Star Trek II this is supposed to be.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
It’s actually from The Motion Picture.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, of course
It was said by that bald chick that was supposed to be incredibly sexually alluring.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Picard?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
really, tj, you must learn to govern your passions
they will be your undoing
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Mar 11, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Also. RIP Chekov’s actual son. :(
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’ve always been amazed that there was a character on network tv called “Boner.”
Also, I had no idea he was Walter Koening’s son until recently.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I always wanted them to explain that nickname, but they never did, to my knowledge.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
His last name was ‘Stabone’… it conforms to the Bochy school of nicknaming.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
‘ey’ and ‘er’ are both acceptable.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
True story
On the show, his full name was Richard Milhous Stabone, and his dad’s name was Sylvester Stabone.
So Dick Boner, huh?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
Sly Boner?
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
So i’ve been told.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
if I remember right, his last name was Stabone, that’s why they called him “boner”
by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before, but the usage of “boner” to mean a screwup originated with the Giants – the old New York Giants, though. It came after Fred Merkle made a baserunning mistake that cost the team dearly – cost them the pennant. It was called a “Bonehead” play, shortened to “boner.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
My dad used to award ‘bonehead’ errors on our Babe Ruth team – plays that weren’t officially errors, but which resulted in the other team advancing a base (like throwing to the wrong base for exampl) – but only now am I creeped out by my dad giving my teammates and I boners.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Last name Stabone. Nickname Boner.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
It’s because he always had an erection. You never noticed on screen because, well, let’s not bring that sad fact up.
this reminds me
I never watched Married With Children, but I was familiar enough with the idea that Al Bundy stuck his hands down his pants (hello, Bruce Bochy). Anyway, I always thought he was supposed to be masturbating and that’s why his hands were down his pants.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I just think it’s comfortable.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yes; this is a story of the misunderstandings of my youth.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I do it all the time when it’s cold in my house.
What?
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I’m doing it now at work. Then I’m gonna go touch stuff on some else’s desk. Open all the doors in the office. Dig around in the refrigerators. Shake my boss’ hand.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Why wouldn’t you also do it during warm weather?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t, because in warm weather I have no pants on.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you be wearing pants when it’s warm?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I have my reasons.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Weirdo
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Well listen, you can’t just expect me to spend my summers cooking pasta in unsalted water without any pants.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Tell that water to put its pants back on.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
You tell it.
I’m not going anywhere near pantless boiling water.
Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.
I’ve noticed in the last several years that the adolescent and young adult male population has a lot of members (ouch) who walk with one hand in a front pocket, and I want to ask them “Do you have a gun, or are you just getting in touch with yourself?”
What stays me is the thought that the former might be true.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 11, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
may you live to find the answer
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Is the other one giving a high five?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
or flicking a cigarette?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
or giving the peace sign?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
or playing the piano?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
or hailing a taxicab?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
The Giants undervalue OBP, eh? Hmmm….
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions
I find this allegation shocking. Shocking.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I think I may go crazy if Fred puts up that line for someone else, and Ryan Garko outplays Huff this year.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Then I hope you are prepared for your imminent psychosis, because the possibility of both those events happening seems pretty high to me.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
I’m gonna book my room in the psych ward now.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
that's basically his career line, right?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
aside from undervaluing OBP
The thing that drives me crazy about Fred-hate is that people always say things like, “When you look at him, he should be a power hitter! He should be an elite defender! He should steal 50 bases a year!” They don’t criticize what he actually does – they criticize him because he’s not the player who they’ve decided he’s supposed to be.
Of course, the Giants themselves were guilty of this last year, when they announced Fred would be an aggressive power hitter now because they were hitting him third.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I am still upset that they moved him from leadoff, just because he didn’t like it there. Fred, I don’t give a shit if you don’t like it, you’re good at it. You wanna ride the pine instead?
I guess the answer was yes.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think Lewis has ever made it on base without David B. immediately saying something like, “This is really a time where Fred should look to steal a base. With the speed Lewis possesses, the Giants hope Lewis will turn into a consistent base-stealer, but so far that hasn’t been the case…”
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
“Lewis walks to load the bases. This is really a time where Fred should look to steal a base…”
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
“And for those of you just tuning in, Tim Lincecum has thrown 28 PITCHES THROUGH TWO INNINGS OMG HIS ARM WILL FALL OFF WITHIN HOURS!”
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
and my favorite Flem quote
“[insert name of scrub opposing pitcher] is really mowing them down tonight!”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I refuse to make a projection for a player that is not on the Giants
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions
I'm using last year's projection with a few modifications
AB: 200
AVG: .306
OBP: .363
SLG: .426
HR: 1
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Fred
doesn’t swing often enough at pitches outside the zone. There’s no telling how much pressure wasn’t put on the defense from all the bloopers and dinkers he’s passed up with his cowardly approach at the plate.
Nice satire.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I can understand playing DeRosa over Lewis – similar OBP, but DeRosa has more power.
False dichotomy – right now Lewis should be starting in LF and DeRosa at 2B.
I was promised lasagna.
Or DeRosa in RF, for that matter.
Or put DeRosa at third at Pablo at first. I bet Fred outhits Aubrey Freaking Huff. You know, the guy with the second lowest wOBA in baseball last year.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
okay, wait
I was misremembering which Giant it was who was next-to-last in wOBA – and actually, it was third-to-last. Still, Huff just makes the bottom ten (min. 500 PA):
1) Yuniesky Betancourt: .271
2) Emilio Bonifacio .277
3) Edgar Renteria .283
4) Jason Kendall: .290
5) David Eckstein .296
6) Kaz Matsui .297
6) Aubrey Huff .297
8) Cristian Guzman .301
9) Randy Winn .302
9) Pedro Feliz .302
LOL us.
Also, amusing that Guzman makes the list – he was on the ballot for the last all-star spot in 2009!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Bengie, by the way
comes in at #15 on that particular list.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
he's busy handling pitchers
and ZOWIE RIBBIE MANUFACTURING
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
What about Alderan?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Oh Adderall
Kansas Royal baseball player Jason Kendall’s wife Chantel Kendall accuses Jason of using adderall which is used for add , adhd, also Adderall is also used as a performance enhancer.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I love the implication that ADD and ADHD are different diseases. They’re the same thing! As far as Adderal’s performance-enhancing properties, the data is equivocal.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
yeah who knows
Since “greenies” are no longer allowed in baseball, it’s no surprise that baseball players may be turning to Adderall to get the boost that the “greenies” used to provide. In fact, it was reported in Newsweek in 2008 that the number of players who had granted exemptions from baseball’s ban on amphetamines so they could use Adderall rose from 28 to 103 in a single year.
If this trend continues it’s not too crazy to assume that Adderall may be the next target in baseball’s ongoing war against performance-enhancing drugs. Which, would be somewhat ridiculous if you think about it. It’s all right to give the drug to your kids, but let’s not let baseball players use it. They might play better.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Since "greenies" are no longer allowed in baseball, it’s no surprise that baseball players may be turning to Adderall to get the boost that the "greenies" used to provide.
Actually, Adderall IS a “greenie”.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
There’s not much to Alderan now is there?
Too soon?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Sadly, it resembles Krypton now.
I wonder if shards of Alderaan act as anti-midichlorians?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
By the way...
I think that question qualifies as one of the 10 nerdiest to ever appear on this blog.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Quick, make a comment about Bail Organa’s penis!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
They called him Bail because that is what girls would do when he whipped it out!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Plus it’s easier to say than Deep Throat Organa.
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yup, little known fact: Bail Organa was an anonymous source for a story about the Emperor in the Mos Eisley Tribune.
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe not so much anti-midichlorians so much, but a reduction in the overall number of midicholorians (they are living matter) and thus their overall effectiveness on the Force.
Kind of like if Posey caught 30,000 games, he would be WAY more effective than he is now.
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Did you really just answer a post about Star Wars midichlorians with a logical response to Posey catching 30,000 games?
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
The three prequals don't exist, therefore, midichlorians are fanfic bullshit. But fine...
If Posey caught 30,000 games, his knees would be frozen… in carbonite!
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Jporny: “I love you”
LOLFRED: “I know”
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
McCovey Chronicles Spreadsheet Clutching Nerd:
The chances of successfully navigating an asteroid file are 3,720 to 1.
Bochy: BORK!!!
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Fear is the path to the Bork side
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
fixed
Bork leads to anger. Bork leads to hate. Bork leads to suffering.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 11, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like he crashed really quickly.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I think his ‘reputation’ as a left fielder only will limit his trade value and we’ll get nothing for him. The Yankees could use him. Not as much as us, but you know…
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Possibly Cashman’s most hilarious misinterpretation of the motto “Win Now”.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Rumor has it he may also try to bring this guy out of retirement:
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
No wonder I've never heard of good 'ol Herm
With a swing like that…
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Oddly enough, that’s his foreswing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t talk about his foreskin in public!
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
74 career OPS+! With a line of .239 / .296 / .334.
And yet he managed to play in the majors for nine years. Baseball is weird sometimes.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
While staying home from work to sweat out a cold last week, I watched a Tivo’d Giants/Reds classic game from 1989. Herm was in the mix, as was a guy in the bleachers who caught Terry Kennedy’s HR. What was noteworthy was that the guy who caught the ball was wearing a neon-pink cap and a neon-pink t-shirt, and caught the ball with a cig in his mouth. Oh, baseball in the ’80’s.
Players of the game for the Giants (a 9-8 win after falling behind 8-0): Thrill, Mike Laga, Greg Litton, Donnell Nixon, Ernie Riles, TK and Bill Bathe. I could watch those classic games all day long.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, man. I totally remember watching that game when it was first on! Wasn’t Chris Speier in it too?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Chris Speier came off the bench in the 9th to drive in a run (the tying run, I think). I still remember that game when he hit for the cycle.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Should say, I LEFT this game early, and missed the end. :(
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
This is why I refuse to leave games early!
Well, one reason. The other being sheer stubbornness.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh, this was in Cinci, I must be thinking of a similar game then. I dunno, I was only seven in ’89. But I swear I remember a game where we were down by a ton, so my mom made us leave early, and on the way home we listened as the Giants scored a ton of runs in the ninth, capped with a grand slam.
I remember telling my mom that the sound of the grand slam ball hitting an empty seat sure sounded a lot like the seat I’d been sitting in, and trying to make her feel bad.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
I could see myself trying to convince my mom of the same thing at age 7. And failing miserably.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Is this the one...
Where Bathe hit a grandslam to tie or pull ahead?
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
This was the game in question: 9/4/89
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm...
I remember a game from my youth where the Giants were down 8-0 and Billy Bathe hit a grandslam to tie the game I think.
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Well,
This goes to show. Never trust my memory. Bathe never had more than 3 RBI in a game. Now I don’t know what to think!
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Because Hank Greenwald mentioned it roughly 14 times during the game I previously mentioned, I remember that Ernest Riles hit a grand slam at Philly when the Giants were down 2-1 in the 9th inning. 8/20/89 if you want nostalgia and proof at the same time.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I was at a Red Sox-A’s game that night. What I remember was seeing the scoreboard read 8-0 and as the Giants chipped away, A’s fans were cheering the Giants comeback.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Hopefully, Lewis will take that useless bag of bones BUST Posey with him on his way to AAA Nowhere! (Royals affiliate)
/sfgate’d
Wait, the Royals AAA affiliate is in the same town as the parent club?
Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.
Hey!
Omaha and Kansas City are entirely different municipalities! But yeah, Omaha is more or less nowhere.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
As opposed to the great megalopolis of Fresno!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The island of misfit toys
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
i'm sure this will get lost in the shuffle...
But the word parent club triggered the following image:
by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
And look how skinny Sabes is.
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
That's Steve Martin's groin!
I’d recognize it anywhere!
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn’t bring myself to post a prediction out of sorrow for Lewis’ imminent departure.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions
FREE FRED
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
With every purchase of a Velez!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
That’s exactly what the Giants will be telling other teams when they try to trade him.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Fred Lewis for Chris Young?
At least he strikes out swinging…
"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."
Urban Is Wrong.
With Freddy Sanchez likely to open the season on the DL there is room on a 13 man positon player roster for both Lewis and Velez as members of the bench.
But not for Lewis, Velez, and Torres. Unless the team were to carry 3 backup OFs and only one backup IF, which seems crazy, or no backup catcher, which seems crazier but they did do it for a while last year.
Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.
Well, DeRosa could technically be another backup infielder, in a pinch.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
He’d probably be more comfortable in the infield anyway.
by fantastical on Mar 12, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
and Pablo could back up C
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Problem :(
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 11, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions
AB: 14
AVG: .214
OBP: .352
SLG: .285
HR: 0
E: 2
DFA: 1
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
This makes me angry
only because the Giants are this stupid – they genuinely believe Freddie Sanchez is a good player because he’s an “all-star, .300 hitter” or that Lewis “Doesn’t know how to win.” It seems like such a comprehension fail that teams still assess talent this way.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Are teams other than the Giants still doing it this way? It doesn’t seem like it.
by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Mets, Astros, Royals. So the Giants and the three most poorly run teams in the game.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
so the four most poorly run teams in the game, then?
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
I think the Pirates find could find their way onto this list. The Giants haven’t made the playoffs since Barry Bonds left. Neither have the Bucs.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but 17 straight years without a playoff appearance is downright Warriorsesque.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
if fred were a real pro he’d stop hitting singles with the bases empty.
by fantastical on Mar 12, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, the Warriors do it in a league where more than half the teams make the playoffs. Only a quarter make it out of the NL. Plus, as someone else mentioned, they have a whole new FO and they’re actually good. Give it a couple of years, but the Pirates are turning things around.
(I love that they haven’t been respectable a single year since Bonds left. So awesome)
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
BEST SHAPE OF THEIR LIVES
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Personally, I'm a huge fan of Neal Huntington
IMO he’s one of the 10 best GM’s in baseball
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I took “poorly run” to be the entire front office. Just because they finally hired a decent GM recently, I’m not ready to call them a well run organization. Maybe the future’s bright, but the last decade and a half has been pretty shitteous.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Our FO is pretty shitteous too.
Fun Fact: Jonathan Sanchez threw his first no-no on my 13th birthday.
Not only is Huntington quality (I agree with Gobroks opinion on him, he’s one of the top GM’s around), but he’s completely overhauled the entire organization – coaching staff, management, everything.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
There was an interview recently where Lewis said something about how he wanted to earn some appreciation back, and he hoped to do so by working on “swinging the bat more” or something. This could have just been idle talk to try and make a positive impression, but it’s worrying that he might have internalized the distorted views of the Giants organization while here.
It’s one thing to let a guy’s skills (whatever they may be) go to waste; it’s another to convince him that his strengths were never strengths to begin with.
I hope, at the very least, he’s given a fair chance wherever he ends up. Good luck, Fred.
Because I think public statements generally do not get reflected in a player’s approach to a significant degree (I predict this with Schierholtz’s claim he’ll have better plate discipline) I wouldn’t worry too much about Lewis’ approach. I think he’ll bring a sound approach. With more playing time, I think he’d cut down his strike outs and put more balls in play though.
Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.
by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Just as with the frustration some people had with Carney’s inability to “change” the hackers on the team last year, so will people find that it will be much harder for Lewis to “improve” (blech) by swinging the bat more this year.
Chances are he’ll just be the same old hitter, whether he likes it or not.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Oh Fred
AVG: .265
OBP: .340
SLG: .420
HR: 5
UZR: +4 in left
All this in 300 PA, mainly from the bench, on our very awesome, well-managed, magical team.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I'll give this a try
AB: 225
AVG: .270
OBP: .350
SLG: .430
HR: 7
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Sabean shopping Lewis
Approaches opposing GM and gets right up in his face
Sabean: Hey bud, you got a problem?
Other GM: No.
Sabean: Want one?
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
by Goofus on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
They can’t all be Kevin “Ain’t got no love, no love you’d” Correia!
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Mar 11, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
I just thought this one up
Tired? There’s a nap for that.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I’ll give it a B.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Mar 15, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis has the makings of a very good pinch hitter
I hope he sticks around for that purpose, otherwise, he should get a chance to play elsewhere.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
He has the makings of a pretty darn good everyday hitter, too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
’cept that everyday implies being able to field your position
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
In the spirit of the upthread nerd digression
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Point taken. Velez it is, then.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s almost as if those two skills are somehow correlated.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
chasm?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I would hope he sticks around and somehow gets significant playing time
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Aztecs determined to fail…down to CSU
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
down by one, :35 to go
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Gay drains two
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
turnover, CSU—Aztecs up by one, six seconds to go
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Aztecs Win! nobody cares
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a headline made for Jay Leno.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
figgered that would catch someone’s attention
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Possible punchline:
“SOMEBODY really wanted to get backstage at an Elton John concert.”
::rimshot::
“That’s cold, Jay.”
Ratings = +1,000,000%
first I’ve heard about this
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Of course. He hadn’t bought the tickets yet.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
giggle ensues
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
/america stays asleep
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Still can’t believe Branford Marsalis used to be the old Leno bandleader.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
/Bengie still starts at catcher
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Over Scott?
Ridiculous
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Exactly
Dude rides a bicycle
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Mar 12, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Can't pull it off like Wendell though
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Well technically Wendell rides a motorcycle but you get my point
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Topical
Just created
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
The only thing I got out of that was a link to his facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/FdotLew14#!/FdotLew14?v=wall
Fred became a fan of I hate people that only call me for free tickets. ·
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Yessss, he accepted my friend request.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I wonder if my picture of him riding a raptor would weird him out.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Make it your profile pic and find out.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 12, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
one in a row!
Natto on a roll.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
bite your tongue
he’s a LEADER
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
Meh, he’s a folleader.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
No, he’s not one of those.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Way to go. Just crushed my dreams there.
Fun Fact: Jonathan Sanchez threw his first no-no on my 13th birthday.
Just be happy I didn’t charge you for that. Dreams are one of a handful of things that I crush professionally.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
why fred lewis sucks
he walks when there’s runners on second and third and two outs.
he hits a single when nobody is on base.
when we really need someone to put the ball in play to score a runner from third he looks at strike three.
he has good range but goofs up easy plays.
he makes countless mental errors.
those mental errors don’t show up in the stats but they hurt the team. anyone who has actually played baseball knows that.
Oh this should be fun
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
I dare you to prove it.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
RBIZ!!!!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
time to play my favorite game!
satire or mental defect!
tjbrun88, do you believe that grittiness is an essential component of a winning team?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
I do!
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Mar 11, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. He strategically times his walks, hits and outs to all happen at the most inconvenient possible times.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
he walks when there’s runners on second and third and two outs.
Would you rather have him strikeout?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
But on the other hand, can Buster Posey match Bengie Molina's spring training heroics? It's debatable.
No. He’s rather cite extreme micro-samples that don’t actually reflect his perception in reality.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
RISP w/ 2 outs last year: 32 at bats, 8 walks, 5 hits, 2 homeruns, 11 strikeouts.
That’s almost as many at bats as Bowker got to prove himself.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
I was very close to saying something that I would most likely regret. So I'll just go the groug route.
Hi
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
If you provided any sort of evidence for your statements
We might take you seriously. Since we all know you’re a full-of-shit troll, I don’t see anyone seriously engaging you on this topic that you (again) are wrong about.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Let’s show how mature we are by name calling those whom we disagree with. He may be a troll… but who is the ogre?
Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info
by cybermaldonado on Mar 11, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
tjbrun has a history here of not listening to others
And not presenting any evidence for his/her statements and ignoring others’ arguments and use of evidence. This is one of the few times I’ve lashed out at anyone who disagreed with me, but in this case, it’s well-deserved.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
he hits a single when nobody is on base
That’s how most innings start…
Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
NO RUN PRODUCTION
GIANTS NEED BANGER STUD TO DRIVE IN RUNS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
BETTER THAN FUCKING MARRIED PEOPLE AMIRITE?
by speckops on Mar 12, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
if fred was a real pro he’d stop hitting singles with the bases empty.
by fantastical on Mar 12, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
I think I might have my second legitimate "fucking idiot" insult in as many weeks!
IM SO GIDDY
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
.
Utter frustration and futility.
"Jon Miller":http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/team/broadcasters.jsp?c_id=sf#miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 15, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
try again
Utter frustration and futility.
Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 15, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
he walks when there’s runners on second and third and two outs.
he hits a single when nobody is on base.
Im bored, so im going to break this down. I am trying to get better at arguments, and I figured I should start on an easy one to disprove.
when we really need someone to put the ball in play to score a runner from third he looks at strike three.
Ill admit his K rate is somewhat high, but I dont have the stats to prove or disprove this statement. (Boy I suck at this)
he has good range but goofs up easy plays.
I do have some stats for this. He had a 3.9 UZR last year, which means hes a good defender. You may also be surprised to learn that he only had 3 errors last year, they were just very memorable. His defense is not a liability, its actually beneficial.
he makes countless mental errors.
Actually his countless errors per 9 innings(CE/9) is only 1.02.
those mental errors don’t show up in the stats but they hurt the team. anyone who has actually played baseball knows that.
I have played baseball. I made a lot of errors. It doesnt affect the team, it affects the player. Whether it gets to him or not, he is one of the Giants best hitters.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
aw, it's just like old times :')
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
nobody strikes out more in clutch situations than lewis. seriously dude it was awful to watch last year.
Last year, his clutch was -.43. Every other year it has been positive, meaning he did better in high leverage situations. Last year, he did slightly worse. That tied him for fourth worst on the team with Andres Torres. He beat Schierholtz, Ishikawa, and Uribe. And all those times when he isn’t in a clutch situation, he is one of the best hitters on the Giants.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kdpAGDu8s
The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
Proud father of 2-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum, who could do whatever he wants to do.
Too bad that claim is not capable of being substantiated in any way whatsoeever.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
OK
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
There’s no need for that type of verbal attack.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Natto’s been particularly short lately.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
what is he, like 3’9"?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
TWSS!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
and your evidence in support of this would be???
yeah, didn’t think so
in the best shape of my life
by Prussian Creole on Mar 11, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Ohhhhh you’re actually serious. I didn’t think someone could make those arguments with a straight face…..
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
anyone seen or heard from pika lately?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
hmm, something ain’t right
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
i just sent him an old fashioned email…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
ps—I was told that a friend of my dog (who is also a dog) has a facebook
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, I’m good, its spring break, tell everyone I’m just blacked out and partying, be back Sunday, I’m in panama
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
/excuse me fer caring
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
So, same as usual!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I'm trying to imagine that email
To my comrade, PiKAgiant
Salutations and what ho! Fair thee well on this grand evening?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
it was very much like that
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Reply:
what ho? dude, THIS ho
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Im Facebook friends and X-Box Live friends with him. hes probably just caught up with his legal issues
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
so caught up
that he’s down south america way. Portugal, I hear.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
he emailed again—it’s panama city (fla)
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
portugal, I just noticed that
he’s actually in Portugal, South America, visiting Mark Portugal
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Portugal, South America?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
arrested development reference.
it was a show on like 4 years ago…you’re too young.
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HULU!
Only have season 2 though :(
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by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck hulu
well…I guess it’s not their fault. But the daily show and colbert report have been pulled off their site. So now I’m just downloading them as torrents. I strongly recommend everyone else do that too, stupid viacom.
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Dailyshow.com and colbertnation.com have full episodes!
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by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
I know
but I’m not gonna reward them for being assholes. The torrents are available RIGHT after the show airs and you don’t have to sit through commercials. Hulu was working great for everyone, they didn’t need to pull their stuff off.
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$ and I don’t blame them.
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by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I bet you anything this move loses them money
a LOT of people are not going to go to a separate website to watch their shows. The beauty of hulu was that you could set the subscriptions up and it gathered everything there.
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I like that show. Dont remember that reference though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 12, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
shocking.
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I say just cut him up right now. Ship him off to a place where he can play for someone. I feel bad for the guy.
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WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 9:25 PM PST reply actions
I like to take the asshole’s cloud. Although I can’t remember if you could do that in the first game….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
You can’t.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I spent so much time completing every possible objective in New Super Mario Bros. Wii that I forgot where I came from….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
The other sad note about this whole saga is the the Giants will let their opinion of Fred Lewis as a player influence their trade talks and will end up DFAing him and getting nothing in return.
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by Speedforthewin on Mar 11, 2010 10:02 PM PST reply actions
I think a trade with the Angels makes sense...
maybe for Bobby Wilson-a catcher with back up potential who is out of options and blocked by Napoli and Mathis
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I have a moral dilemma. I feel like Im being selfish by wanting Fred to stay on this team. Its clear that he will never get a shot, so it is probably best for him to go play elsewhere. However, I really like the guy, and he is one of the first players that comes to mind when I think of this team, and I dont want him to leave. Also, he has the same last name as me and his jersey number is my lucky number.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:11 PM PST reply actions
Your name is Graham Lewis?
That’s a fucking awesome name.
And I agree, I really like him too
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
really, Sleg Lewis?
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. I like my name. The Graham Cracker jokes got old in like Kindergarten though. And they didnt stop there.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
RACIST!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
HAHA ohh kids,
they say the darndest things. So clever!
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
That was the worst. Like, it never really bugged me when people called me that, but it really bugged me when people I just met would call me that and think they were so clever.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
how’dya feel about s’mores?
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
They are delicious, as long as you take the proper safety precautions.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
and those music awards….how do you feel about them?
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
The Grammys? Im indifferent.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Grahammys
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
The only person that calls me Grahamy is my mom when Im with a bunch of friends.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
classic mom
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
moms
misusing the diminutive for generations!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
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by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
Good job, Graham's mom!
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
I like the name Graham
but if I named my kid Graham he’d be Graham Green. Not sure I could do that to somebody
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Whats so bad about that? The A’s first(?) round draft pick this year was named Grant Green.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Graham Green sounds sorta like “grandma green”. But it does have a good ring to it. I guess kids will make fun of people’s name no matter what it is, unless it’s something like john smith
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
I would definitely make fun of someone named John Smith.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
really, being named after a toilet
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ever heard of this american life?
Radio show, they made a TV version and in one episode they followed around a bunch of people named john smith at various points in their respective lives. It was pretty awesome
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds creepy.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Twas actually pretty awesome
their point was to tell the story of what a life is like. So they found a baby and saw what babies go through, then a person at like 23, 35, 50s, 70s, and a guy who was like 90 and had alzheimer’s. They jumped around between their separate stories and looked at what people deal with at certain points in their lives.
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
All named John Smith? Thats kinda cool I guess.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
since it’s the “most common name” in the world. Yet I’ve never actually MET a john smith
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Muhammed was?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe it's in america then..
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt thats true anymore. I only know of a couple Johns at my school. Of course I have 3 Uncle Johns. Does Jon(athan) count?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
meh IDK
there sure are a lot of “Johns” in vegas though! HEYO
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
I really enjoy
their Bathroom Reader series. THAT’S interesting writing!
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by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
I know this guy named John Brush.
Years of abuse have ruined his mind.
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by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Muhamad is the most popular given name, Chang the most popular surname.
But it’s probably not the most popular combination.
I was promised lasagna.
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Whoah
if that name is in a song, then maybe I have to reconsider. Except that people who spell their last name with an E on the end are impostors. LIKE THE COLOR, LOSERS.
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
You realize it’s the name of a famous author and playwright?
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LOLYOUNG
no. I know next to nothing about authors TBH
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
LOL i'm the same age as you
:)
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I'm decidedly less educated, I'm willing to bet
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
take that bet prony!
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well, to be fair, I’m an English nerd, so.
Plus, he’s more popular in England than the US, I think.
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Graham is a British name. My parents found it in a name book under the “British Air Force Pilot Names” or something like that.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Count your blessings
if it was “American Air Force Pilot Names” it could have been Maverick, Ice Man or Jester.
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by DrStankus on Mar 12, 2010 6:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
win
Man, have they been overplaying that movie on cable or what?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
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by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
I actually know more about english pop culture than most
I watch a few british shows like QI and top gear and the like.
Definitely not an english nerd though, which is why I don’t get about 95% of the references on this site and have to google them
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
QI rules. I was lucky enough to get to go to a taping while I was in London. I have never laughed so hard in my life.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT
I am so jealous right now.
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
My friend was a friend of the person who ran the official site (or fansite, I can’t remember) and she got tickets for a few tapings and invited me to one.
Of course, it was the NEXT day, that the fansite person got her into the green room afterward to meet Stephen Fry. FFFFFFUUUUU
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OMG
that would be pretty awesome. Did you see the craig ferguson show when he was on a couple weeks ago? He’s pretty awesome. Also stephen fry in america rulez
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
He’s pretty much the best person ever, imo.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
im in this line^
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Me neither. I read a lot, but not many classics.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
yup
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Ball Four is a classic
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a significance to the name “Grandma Green”? I think the name Graham just sounds like grandma, no matter what your last name is.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Guess that's true
i always shortened my grandmas names to “gramma _”. So it especially sounds weird since I called my dad’s mom gramma green
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah ive been called Grandma too. People are very unimaginative.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAH BUT THATS SO FUNNEE
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
I have a million nicknames from various people. Graham Cracker, Grandma, Shadow warrior, Smeagle, Grammoth the Mammoth, SocioGraham, etc.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
grahamalamadingdong
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
customized for mcc: grahamallamadingdong
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
smeagle
lol
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah some were less affectionate than others.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Smeagle.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 11, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
i don’t even want to know what that means
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by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
How can there be so many different definitions for one word?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
The beauty of UD
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
BTW
if you want to have fun, type your name in sometime. IDK what graham will come out as, but awhile ago everyone on facebook was doing that and there were some pretty weird “meanings” for names
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
:D
An amazing gorgeous man with beautiful bright eyes that would do anything for his girlfriend. He has a GREAT personality & an INCREDIBLE sense of humor! _ loves to joke, go out but mostly spend time with his girlfriend. If u find an _, hold on to him- Don’t let go !
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Yeah every name has some really positive definitions and some negative ones.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Well I just found one of the negative ones.
It involves being really drunk, transforming into a werewolf, a tendency to piss on things and a defense mechanism where feces is spread on the face of an “attacker”.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
must be Xanthan
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
heres mine:
A tall handsome and utterly fuck worthy dude that has no place on this earth as it is entirely beneath him. Women fall at his feet and are often found exploding in orgasm as he may pass them by.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
do they explode and die, or do they recover?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Heres a negative, yet creative one
Graham – A bestial sodomite. Origins of the term Graham trace back to medieval Scotland where ancient pig farmers used their livestock for sexual comfort. Human semen injected into the anus of a pig would result in the pig’s meat turning gray in color, hence the term “Gray Ham” was used in referring to farmers who engaged in this devious activity. Over the years, the term shortened to Graham worldwide and became commonly applied to children showing sexual deviation tendencies of a bestial nature.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
lol wow
that’s the 2 furthest extremes you could get
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Wow, this is pretty awesome
An extremely well built, attractive, male human being. In present time… a noun used to depict the most handsome and attractive of men, with stunning features.
Apparently my name has an excellent reputation.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
what’s so weird?:
A BADASS MOTHA FUCKA with a very large penis
and is great in bed.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
i’m sensing that this may be rigged
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Garrett:
One who exhibits etreme model like hottness and who drives the ladies crazy in bed
That guy is such a Garrett.
An extremely hot guy who looks like an Abercrombie Model!!! He is very athletic and all the girls like him.
A generally uncommon name given to Males. This name is found to be most popular with births taking place between 1985 – 1990.
Fucking Georgous.
You give all the girls orgasims.
You have big plans in the future.
Very athletic.
Any girl is lucky to have this kid.
I love him to death!!!
The Most Ahmazingest Guy You’ll Ever Meet.
He’ll Make Your Heartstop With His Gorgeous Eyes!
Well, the certainly have me pegged.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
That last one is of course talking about...
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
flagged
for using “pegged” and posting a picture of yourself. TMI dude!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions
I bet they have you pegged, too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Wow. Can you guess which one applies to me?
Time Of Month – a code word for a girl’s period, disgused as a person’s name (much like “Aunt Flo” or “Aunt Flow”).
Police slang used by the British force, especially by the Metropolitan, to describe a prostitute.
a beautiful man with an extraordinarily big penis and heroic testicles. makes every girl moist when he walks in the room
Old British slang for “lesbian”
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't know you were British!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
Bet you didn’t know I was a lesbian prostitute either!
Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!
by say hey nation on Mar 12, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
Andy
To pull an Andy is to purpously headbutt something extremely hard, most of the time resulting in extreme head injury, memory loss, or destruction of the object.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 12, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
NARDOG
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Who’d name their kid Grant?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Mar 11, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
GrahamCrakalaka is white?!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Especially if you’re a Wire fan. (That’s Wire the band, not The Wire the TV show.)
Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.
by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t even know what I’ll argue about when Fred is gone. There goes, like, half my comments.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You could start defending Eugenio Velez. Then your comments would double!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe I’ll catch up.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
don't worry
Frandsenberry Kool Aid might still make the team if FSanchez sleeps on his eye wrong again.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 10:44 PM PST reply actions
LOLacrosse
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
That war will end quickly.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
中文(简体)
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 12, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
I ain't got no idea.
It was at the bottom of this, which is that.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Mar 13, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
ohai mccovey chronicles
I root for your enemy but I come in peace to discuss the game of baseball.
I have vague recollections of trolling your site and ranting against you on tbla possibly while intoxicated in the past. I have changed my ways.
I enjoy reading your site. most of my friends are rabid giant fans as I grew up in norcal. without being a smartass – I almost feel sorry for you for being stuck with sabes. almost, because i’m a dodger fan and almost,, because we have ned colletti.
giant fans are good fans and deserve better. I’ve been to many games at pacbell and the stick before and always had a good time getting into it with the giant fans in a friendly fashion. honestly the yankee, sox, philly and the cardinal fans are far more annoying to me. I respect you guys as sworn enemies but despise your team as you should and do despise mine.
preamble over – off to the baseball. I can’t believe that fred lewis is gonna get cut loose for nothing. I would take him over reed johnson in la in a heartbeat. I would also take frandsen as a spare infielder over jamey carroll (the mention of his name angers me) who ned signed for 2 years ~ 4 million. I refuse to believe that velez will make your team though I hope he does.
ned traded our “buster posey” for casey blake… the only things saving ned are
management willing to eat his mistakes which you guys can’t / won’t do
he had a great farm system when he took over – some have worked out and he has traded some GREAT prospects for marginal veterans that have contributed enough to make the trades look decent…
anyway, sorry for the long post, i’d say good luck this year but you’d know I didn’t mean it, so lets just all try to agree that the “education connection” girl should be strangled and whoever wrote her song should be shot in the head.
peace
lloyd
by lchristmas on Mar 11, 2010 11:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF US, DODGER FAN!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
keep your hands off our Fred Lewis!
But you’re certainly welcome to our Ned Colletti. Wouldn’t you like a nice side of Sabean to go with it?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"
by natteringnabob on Mar 12, 2010 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
I'm gonna kill you, lloyd
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
rabid giant fans
Maybe we could have a run for rabies to raise awareness of this issue.
by paboperfecto on Mar 12, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
I LIKE MY RABIES JUST FINE, THANK YOU
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Giants to Fred:
“Look, we’ve had some good times. Remember that walk-off home run? Yeah, we all loved that. But… we just want different things, and — you have to believe me — it’s not you, it’s me.”
To continue the analogy, the Giants start sleeping around and contract a number of STD’s. Fred Lewis settles down with the love of his life and has a solid major league career.
Godspeed, Fred. The Giants have broken the hearts of position players in the past, and they’ll continue to do so long after you’re gone.
oh, brother. If Fred were a real pro, he’d stick around contributing key offense off the bench, playing an important role in the Giants drive to the pennant. Then, he can be awarded appropriately by some other team and go on to a John Vanderwahl-like career.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
Vander Wal
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
hat tricks
Then, he can be awarded appropriately by some other team and go on to aJohn VanderwahlJan Wahl-like career.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Let me first say I like Fred Lewis and hope he makes the team as the 4th outfielder. My biggest problem with him is that he’s an On-Base Percentage guy that strikes out a lot but he doesn’t do anything else. He’s like the Freddy Sanchez of OBP, Sanchez hits .300 but that’s all no SB, no power, no BB, nothing just an empty .300 (which I believe is the general consensus of what his problem is). Well that’s what Fred Lewis is, he’s an empty .355 OBP. He strikes out too much to not hit 25+ HRs, most high OBP guys seem to either hit for a high average and steal bases to go along with it or strike out a lot and hit for power. I know, I know DINGRZ right. I’m just saying it seems like he would be a good 4th OF/PH not a good everyday guy.
On a separate note has anyone looked at Barry Bonds’ 2004 Season lately. I was on BR and wow .609 OBP, out of 617 PA he had 373 official ABs.
High OBP is a positive even if it comes with a low batting average and little power.
Of course, you do want those other things as well, but that doesn’t mean that a high OBP isn’t valuable in and of itself.
Check out the various linear weights. They will show the relative values, on average, of a single vs a walk.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Batting averages are empty when they don’t lead to getting on base at a high rate overall, like Sanchez. High OBP’s are never empty, though! Getting on base is the single most important thing an offensive player can do! Also, Lewis does have some power – I wish he’d hit more HR’s for sure (especially given his monstrous power on the ones he does hit), but he still has decent gap power – 25 doubles and 11 triples in 468 AB’s/521 PA’s in 2008. .348 wOBA that season, which is above average (average is around .330 if I remember right) by a decent enough amount – enough to actually make him a touch above average as a hitter overall for a corner outfielder.
Now, I don’t like to discard data/samples – it’s generally bad practice and cherry picking, but I will note that guys tend to play better with regular playing time, something Lewis hasn’t gotten very often in a Giants uniform. The year he did, he was a ~2.4 WAR player in about 85% of a full season worth of PT, while 2 WAR is about average for a starter. I don’t want to discard his lesser performances in other years, but at the same time, 2008 might have been a better indicator of his true talent than the other years where he was jerked around.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
You play too much fantasy baseball
and that’s got you thinking that good fantasy player= good real life player. Strikeouts don’t matter as long as you’re getting on base a lot.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Well, strikeouts might matter a little bit, but it’s only a little!
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
then why does everyone hate to K so much?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
because there's no chance of a hit on a k
players who k less will generally have more hits than players who k more.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
That's true
but I’d rather see a guy K than GIDP a whole bunch
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Because they look bad.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
From a player’s perspective, this is what it really comes down to.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
not really.
in general a player who k’s less will have more hits.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
You are answering from a result perspective; which really isn’t what was being asked.
“Why does everyone hate to K so much”
The anwer to the above question is because it makes them look bad.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 12, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm, maybe
But again, I think part of it is still because it affects their results in a negative manner
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
bingo. the only thing worse than striking out is striking out looking. so humiliating.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you
by greatgiantfan on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
But the great thing is we get survivor bias in MLB so we only see the high strikeout guys that can hit enough for their k’s not to matter!*
*By not mattering, I mean mostly not mattering. K’s matter a litlte bit.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
They also have fewer GIDPs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a reason people say empty batting average. It’s because there isn’t an OBP to go along with it.
There’s no such thing as an empty OBP, unless your slugging percentage is like in the low .350s. That’s how valuable it is for scoring runs.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Empty might have been a bad choice of words. I’m just trying to figure out why a OBP driven by singles/doubles is worse then driven by walks and strike outs. A high OBP is a high OBP. I’m still trying to get better with all the advanced stats I don’t understand them. I get BABIP, OPS, OBP and why these things are good and why it’s good to use them. I know RBIs (or is it RsBI) and average and HRs aren’t the best stats to judge a player on but are all nice things to have to go along with the others.
Wouldn’t a guy who’s OBP is driven by hits because he doesn’t strike out as much have a better chance to keep that up because he’s bound to have a higher BABIP because he has more chances by putting the ball in play. I’m not sure if this is right just trying to figure it out.
It’s my understanding that walking is a more repeatable skill than “hitting.” Which is probably strictly a BABIP phenomenon. A guy who powers his .365 OBP by hitting .300 is going to be hurt a lot more by a bad-luck-BABIP than a guy who powers his by walking a lot. You can’t hit an seed of a walk right at a defender. No luck involved.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
That said, it’s a minor thing. And guys who hit more also get to second base more, so they can make up for it that way, too. But I guess that’s more of a slugging distinction than an OBP one….
There’s no really good reason to think that one way of getting on base is significantly better than another. Getting on base is the most important thing. If you do it a lot, it doesn’t really matter how you manage that. And if you have two guys who get on base at the same clip and give you the same value back in power, then they’re basically equal.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Well, you’re actually right, a walk is not as good as a single. Using the linear weight formula we all like to use, a nonintentional walk is worth .72 runs, a hit by pitch is worth .75 runs, a single is worth .9 runs, reaching on an error is worth .92 runs, a double is worth 1.24 runs, a triple is worth 1.56 runs, and a HR is worth 1.95 runs, all of these on average. So the reason Fred was good in 2008 is that he had an above average combination of those events.
he’s bound to have a higher BABIP because he has more chances by putting the ball in play
The point of BABIP is to control for “balls in play” – so he’s not necessarily going to have a higher BABIP – more balls in play doesn’t change it, all that matters is what happens on those balls in play.
Basically, I would advise you to start using wOBA – it’s linear weights and it just multiplies a guys offensive contributions by those factors I listed, and divides by PA. Average is ~.330. It’s the best stat for giving us a full picture of how well a guy is hitting. So with Lewis, he was at .348 in 2008 – above average by a decent amount.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why walks and HPB would have different run values, except as a statistical blip, but it makes sense that singles can give you more back because they actually move more runners over. Yet another wrinkle.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
I’m sure I can look it up but since I’m already here, is there a reason an unintentional walk would be worth less then a hit by pitch. I could see an intentional walk being worth a fraction more then an unintentional walk but why hit by pitch.
Hit by pitches are by all account randomly distributed. Walks are not. Pitchers are more likely to walk a guy in a situation where it won’t hurt the team – whether that be walking the 8th hitter with a guy on 2nd and two outs with the pitcher up next, or wakling a great hitter with 2nd and 3rd, up by a run and 2 outs in the 9th inning. There are enough situations like that to make a small difference in their run value.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Actually that’s not a good explanation. That is more about intentional walks. Sorry. It’s a similar concept, though – pitchers will pitch around guys and give them a non-intentional walk more often in situations where it hurts the team less than normal.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
When they have the luxury of ‘being careful’ with a batter.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Mar 12, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
HE'S A BUM!
BA: .223
OBP: .221
SLG: .302
HR: 1
by AmorVincitOmnia on Mar 12, 2010 6:31 PM PST reply actions
I’m one of the small minority that think Lewis is a better player than people give him credit for… and I would also be irritated if Velez takes a spot over Lewis. Velez may be the dumbest player I have ever seen in my life. Sure, he got hot with the bat… but not any hotter than Lewis has gotten in the past. People have the attention span of gerbils. Lewis had a promising 2008 on a bum foot and started hot in 2009. After all, in early May only two Giants were batting over .300, and Lewis was one of them (with Pablo being the obvious other). Sure, Fred hit the skids pretty hard after that, but benching him for the entirety of the rest of the season was a mistake in my opinion. Let’s just hope Schierholtz works out. I’ve never been sold on him. He swings at anything that moves… and unlike Panda, he can’t hit anything that moves.
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