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Community Rejection: Fred Lewis

From a Mychael Urban chat session:

OK, let's get rolling. Which member of McCovey Chronicles or Athletics Nation wants to rip me first?

Hey! Play nice, gentle readers. Please do not troll the Urban. But that’s not the relevant quote:

a prediction: … (Fred) Lewis is cut loose near the end of camp.

Urban is probably right, though I’ll guess that the Giants have a decent chance of extracting a token "prospect." The good news is that the prospect has a 5% chance of turning into Darren Ford, who has a 25% chance of turning into Rajai Davis, who has a 1.35% chance of turning into Kenny Lofton. So, yeah, we’re sittin’ pretty.

What happened? Take a spin around last year’s Lewis projection thread, you’ll see plenty of optimism. Lewis was the only hitter who could take a walk, so a lot of us thought he’d be the only non-panda worth penciling in the 2011 roster. Flash-forward a year, and Lewis might be given away.

If a team can’t find a fifth-outfielder slot for a speedy guy with a .355 career on-base percentage, that team must be stacked. That, or they might not care so much about the witchery that is "on-base percentage."

Star-divide

I can understand playing DeRosa over Lewis – similar OBP, but DeRosa has more power.

I can understand starting Rowand in center – Lewis is quick, but he’d drive us mad playing centerfield.

I can understand playing Nate Schierholtz over Lewis – Nate has a better minor league history, and he's a better defensive fit for right field.

I can understand keeping Torres on the roster over Lewis – there should always be at least one true center fielder on the bench, and Torres also adds a touch of lefty-thumping.

So we’re at the fifth-outfielder’s spot. Lewis would fit nicely here. The haters chime in here, saying things like  "Lewis drives me nuts when he plays the outfield! He takes weird routes! He makes stupid baserunning mistakes! He just isn’t a heady baseball player!" I can see your point. I disagree with the premise that it adds up to Lewis being a below-average player, but I can see how he’s a frustrating player to watch. However, the alternative is to keep Eugenio Velez. There isn’t a weirder route-taking, more stupid baserunning mistake-making, just as unheady baseball player in the game. He can out-Lewis Lewis in any given game.

The argument for Velez, in two simple bullet points:

  • He can play second base poorly, which makes a difference on a team that will likely have three other players who can play second base.
  • He got hot when he was called up in July, and because that streak had an easily identifiable starting point, it means more than getting hot in the middle of the season. Heck, Lewis hit .300/.401/.438 Velez was called up, but Lewis made the mistake of burying that good performance in the middle of the season. He was already on the roster. Velez brought a spark! and a jolt! to the lineup, so he was better.

I just don’t get it. Well, I do. The Giants don’t care much for OBP, and they overreact to small samples. I wonder how many other teams in the league would choose Velez over Lewis. I bet most of the bad teams would even take Lewis.

Comment starter: Have I ever mentioned my theory that the Giants don’t care much for OBP, and they overreact to small samples? I think this is the first time. So please discuss this pioneering, groundbreaking exposé. You know your mind was just blown.

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Who is this Fred Lewis guy you speak of?

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 11, 2010 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

DFA

I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.

by The Thrill on Mar 11, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They have the Fred on the Lewis now?

by sakbaum on Mar 12, 2010 4:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Good. I hope he gets cut. He deserves better.

by Missing Barry on Mar 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I’d rather just hope he makes the roster

by fantastical on Mar 11, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

This is where I belong.

Decent Player, Speed, OBP, can take a pitch, marginal power, decent defense that just looks scary. What’s not to like ? Hope he gets a shot to play somewhere.

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by nvsfg on Mar 11, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Fred!

If they won’t play him, and they won’t, I hope they cut him loose.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

What if it made the team worse?

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Mar 11, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse

than him wearing a groove into the dugout bench? Of course I want them to play him, but it’s already like having 24 guys on the roster as it is.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Fred. I want him as an individual to succeed. Unless we’re going to play him a lot, I’d rather see him move on and get a shot, even if the team is a bit worse off, because I root for both individuals and teams. In this case, the individual wins out because of how the Giants are trying to ruin his career.

by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

If (Player = good soldier && player.hashotstreak())
  {BORK} else {
      ruin career
}

by speckops on Mar 12, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that java? I haven’t programmed in Java/C++ in a long time……

by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

that would work in C++

if you overloaded the = operator and added some semicolons. Not in java though, and the formatting is all screwed up.

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by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm, it’s been way too long (like 7 years long?) since I’ve used them….

by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

good for you

Java is the worst.

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by DrStankus on Mar 12, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

seriously.

pain in my ass.

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by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

then again

i’m a C# programmer, so what do i know.

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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

If (Player.GetType() == typeof(GoodSoldier) && Player.HasHotStreak())
{
  Bochy.BORK;
} else
{
  Sabes.RuinCareer(Player);
}

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

 player→career→ruin() unless (player→is_good_soldier && player→last_hot_streak.date – today < 15552000)

TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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by zenbitz on Mar 12, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga... CHONE WAR projection= 12.7

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz... CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Mar 12, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This makes me angry and sad

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

yes

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

RIP Fred

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

LOL YOULL HAVE TO FIND A NEW FAVURITE PLAYER LOL

lOL

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

International Out Loud?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Inappropriately Out Loud?

Itinerant Out Louders?

Inaudibly Out Loud?

Iverson Out Loud?

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Incontinent Out Loud

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That explains a lot, actually.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a lower case L. It was a caps lock joke.

I’m sure it’s funny now that I’ve explained it.

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by groug on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s always funnier after it’s been explained.

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by Natto on Mar 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s how jokes work!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Just like Doonsbury.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
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by ringleader3 on Mar 11, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you mean by that?

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

But Fred Lewis is the greatest player in the history of the game!!!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Mar 11, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

here comes the flame war

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 11, 2010 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Proud parent of the new dominant pitching sensation out of San Diego State University.

by beat_la_25 on Mar 12, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Fred Lewis prediction: sadness

by microwave donut on Mar 11, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

Fred Lewis>Rod Carew

These pretzels are making me thirsty

by NuschlerFace on Mar 11, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

“Community Rejection”

by goGSW24 on Mar 11, 2010 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 314
AVG: .271
OBP: .357
SLG: .421
HR: 4
TEAM: OAK

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, without even looking at his BR page, I basically just gave you Fred Lewis’ almost-exact career averages in every one of those stats, adjusted for ABs.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

NERB

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Mar 11, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

this place is crawling with nerbs

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you

by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

what are you

some kind of rain man or something?

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

When is Wapner on next?

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm an excellent driver

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by nvsfg on Mar 11, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really think he’ll end up in Oakland, but I’m terrible at this team speculation stuff. Originally I had put SDP. Then I thought, “No, wait…” so I put “NMY” and thought the same thing, and ended up just settling on a Rajai Davis reunion, if they even ever played together.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not oakland? They’ve been collecting OF all year.

Matt Graham is an anagram for .... why don't you ask the scrabble expert!

by say hey nation on Mar 11, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

NMY

New Mexico Yucatans?

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

North Michigan Yoopers?

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

New Mork Yets?

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Nebraska Mole Yankers?

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I told you I was bad at this.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we still trolling Urban?

by chilibean_3 on Mar 11, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Always.

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by cornball on Mar 11, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLoptimism!

My Fred Lewis projection last year:
AB: 568
BA: .267
OBP: .334
SLG: .455
HR: 16
SB: 24/38
Defense: +4 in LF

And I was one of the more conservative projections!

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by tedfordfan on Mar 11, 2010 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

Man, it really is hard sometimes to follow a team that doesn’t look at baseball the same way I do.

by AndOnTheDrums... on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

“I’m the GM of a team that plays a game with this odd-looking cube. Just look at it. That’s one odd shape for a cube.”

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

We will miss you Fred and your awesome sunglasses.

Hopefully your next club will know how to properly use you and not screw with you.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

if he plays somewhere

I’ll peg his line at .270 / .360 / .410.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

Where does Bowker fit in in that 5th outfielder competition?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 11, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

he has an option left. GG him.

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by jctGamer on Mar 11, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Cut Lewis, send Bowker down, Velez makes the team. Sad.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 11, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sad? That’s not sad, that’s VROOOOOM!!!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

WE’RE IN THIS THING!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

That’s gotta be the WORST slogan since 2003 when we were bombarded with Mr. Bring it Home.

"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."

by Azantor on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked those commercials though.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Those ads drove me nuts. Then again, it could have been my bitterness showing through because they canceled the 2002 World Series.

"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."

by Azantor on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

theres a bat for that

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by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

constipated? there’s a crap for that

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you

by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesus, I wish I didn’t think this is what will happen.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He should start taking a few grounders at second and maybe Bochy will change his mind.

by Into the Void on Mar 11, 2010 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

is that Kirstie Alley?

by Into the Void on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Too thin. It must be somebody else.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Kirstie Alley the First, not Kirstie Alley the Doubled.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Math is fun for everyone!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 11, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Kirstie Alley squared?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Mar 11, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

kirstie alley fibonaccied?

Les Plack = more chicks
Yahoo FFL champ 2009
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
Chose the Saints and the under to win my bet with my ex gf...i'm on a roll.

by Headhunter Rollins on Mar 11, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That it is!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

You can’t ever just play along, can you?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m embarrassed now… BAD me!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Before she found that deep-fryer in the attic.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

also the one next to the bed, and the bathroom sink, and stairs, then the elevator, and then she had one installed near the couch, then near…..

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 11, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The same character was also later played by Robin Curtis.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully the folks over in Draft-land will continue dragging your feet, and you’ll be able to snag a somewhat decent replacement for Fred.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

*their feet

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If not, I’ll just take a minor leaguer who I’m fond of but who nobody else will probably take, like Chris Gloor or Kaohi Downing.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Little known fact

The reason why Saavik stayed on Vulcan: she was pregnant with Spock’s child.

The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.

by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m guessing this is from a novel or something equally non-canonical?

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by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh come on

What do you think she did to help Spock get through ponfar?

The baseball Satanist
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by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there is that, yeah.

We re-watched the Star Trek movies a while back, and I was amazed how obvious it was what was going on there.

Another thing I had missed in previous viewings: in Star Trek IV, when they’re rescuing Chekov from the hospital in the Mission District, you can hear several intercom messages in the background; one of them is paging “Dr. Ben Dover.”

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Sensual massage.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

also

Now you’ve got me thinking of Star Trek starring characters who’ve slept together. There are a lot!

At least three for Worf alone!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Was Data the first TNG character to get any action?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That was only the second episode, so I’m pretty sure he was!

Of course, it was clear from the pilot that Troi and Riker had slept together, but that had been years earlier. Also, Troi called Riker “Bill.”

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Tasha Yar tied with Data, obviously.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Picard and Crusher were sort of in the same boat, too. It’s clear they slept together even though Jean-Luc ordered her husban Jack Crusher to his death.

Also, it’s likely Riker & Ro hooked up in the episode where their memories were wiped by those aliens looking to have the Enterprise finish a war for them.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I always figured Dr. Crusher and Picard had had an affair prior to Jack Crusher’s death, which led to their estrangement. OMG WESLEY IS PICARDS SON

Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.

by shanghaijim on Mar 11, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there's also my imagination

Dr. McCoy still was pretty darn frisky in his cameo from Encounter at Farpoint.

The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.

by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I know you're going to tell me something obvious but...

who was the third?

Troi

Jadzia Dax

…?

Oh, wait, he slept with Ezri Dax also, right?

Though, it’s not surprising because Worf was a stud.

The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.

by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Troi, Jadzia & Ezri Dax, K’Ehylar (Alexander’s mom), probably that half Klingon/half Romulan chick he met on the Klingon-Romulan prison planet… at least that many in the show.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Worf: Intergalactic playa.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Worf got around, but Riker and Troi were the real sluts of TNG.

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by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Riker and Troi: Intergalactic sluts.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Riker slept with a hologram — or, at the very least, wanted to! You know he queued up another sexy lady program the day after Minuette crashed.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t Geordi sleep with a hologram?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

No

But that’s the real life version of the hologram thought.

The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.

by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, that’s right.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

As I recall, in the final episode

It was said or implied in the future timeframe that they were married.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

also, in Voyager

Janeway fucked a hologram. Or at least had a “Relationship” with one.

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by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

And who the hell knows what Seven of Nine was assimilating in Unimatrix Zero or with those Borg optical implants.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s rumored that she got her name because she was given the task of sleeping with nine men in a prescribed time limit, and only got to seven of them.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

My prediction:

Fred Lewis will go Seven of Nine this year.

/auto-defenestrates

Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Seven's backstory always annoyed me

Because it made mincemeat out of the Borg backstory. In TNG, nobody had the slightest notion the Borg existed until Q sent the Enterprise off to Borg space – and the Borg didn’t know the Federation existed until then, they were very clear on that point – but Seven’s parents were flying off across the galaxy (with a small child in tow!) chasing “rumors” of the Borg. Yeah, okay.

Also, the name “Seven” – the use of a number designation came from “I, Borg,” but in that case it was “Third of Five.” So she should’ve been called Seventh of Nine.

/ubernerd

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I never understood why they didn’t just have Seven be someone who was assimilated at the Battle of Wolf 359. That would’ve been a more interesting backstory, aside from making more sense!

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

But most everything about Voyager pissed me off. Except the finale. I thought the finale was breathtakingly ludicrous and kinda stupid — everything the show ever was and more.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well come on, who hasn’t slept with a hologram?

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a reason I don’t let anybody near my box of baseball hologram cards.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet you subscribe to all the Sportsflix fetish sites, Howie.

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I subscribe to their newsletters.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Scott Adams wrote up in The Dilbert Future that the holodeck would bring about the end of humanity. Brilliant comedy here:

For those of you who only watched the ‘old’ Star Trek, the holodeck can create simulated worlds that look and feel just like the real thing. The characters on Star Trek use the holodeck for recreation during breaks from work. This is somewhat unrealistic. If I had a holodeck, I’d close the door and never come out until I died of exhaustion. It would be hard to convince me I should be anywhere but in the holodeck, getting my oil massage from Cindy Crawford and her simulated twin sister.

Holodecks would be very addicting. If there weren’t enough holodecks to go around, I’d get the names of all the people who had reservations ahead of me and beam them into concrete walls. I’d feel tense about it, but that’s exactly why I’d need a massage.

I’m afraid the holodeck will be society’s last invention.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Like holobands on Capicra

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

How is Caprica? I tried watching one episode, but I was distracted to begin with and it failed to win my attention.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It gets better, but you really have to focus. Might be asking too much in that sense, not because people “don’t get it” but they really make you eat a lot of vegetables before getting to the really good stuff.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been enjoying it. I’m not as sucked in as I was with BSG though.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Reasons To Hate Hulu, Pt. 3

I’ve seen the Caprica pilot and the subsequent episode, because the freaking teasers don’t have any more.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Mar 11, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

For anyone who hasn’t read why the future won’t be like Star Trek, you need to read Adams’ take on it:

http://www.troutman.org/humor/startrek.html

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Although Wesley had the distinction of nailing Ashley Judd.

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Lefler’s Law #69 — Never miss an opportunity to get horizontal with someone you just met.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a little known fact, by the way

That Teri Hatcher made an appearance in TNG, where she obviously slept with someone she just met. It was a guest star, though.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Terrible episode, by the way. Also guest starred Joe Piscopo as an unfunny comedian.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, that one!

That’s the one where Data tries to understand humor on the holodeck!

Oh, man, that episode is awesome (unintentionally).

Data telling a joke with his arm movements and voice inflection…

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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.

by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Data says:

“Take my Worf, please!”

/universe over

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot the lip twitch

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by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Excellent.

"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."

by Azantor on Mar 11, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

“His swing indicates… two-dimensional thinking.”

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

the giants will leave fred like they did kevin frandsen…
marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead organization.
buried alive
buried alive
buried alive

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOCH!
BOOOOOOOOOCH!

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

you seriously think kevin frandsen is good?

by tjbrun88 on Mar 11, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You're gonna have to help me with this one

I can’t quite figure what part of Star Trek II this is supposed to be.

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by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s actually from The Motion Picture.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, of course

It was said by that bald chick that was supposed to be incredibly sexually alluring.

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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.

by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Picard?

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me

by DrStankus on Mar 11, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Incredible sexually alluring? Check!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Mar 11, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

really, tj, you must learn to govern your passions
they will be your undoing

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 11, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Also. RIP Chekov’s actual son. :(

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always been amazed that there was a character on network tv called “Boner.”

Also, I had no idea he was Walter Koening’s son until recently.

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I always wanted them to explain that nickname, but they never did, to my knowledge.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

His last name was ‘Stabone’… it conforms to the Bochy school of nicknaming.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn't Bochy call him "Boney"?

Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!

by Goofus on Mar 11, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

‘ey’ and ‘er’ are both acceptable.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

True story

On the show, his full name was Richard Milhous Stabone, and his dad’s name was Sylvester Stabone.

by BobSacamano on Mar 11, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

So Dick Boner, huh?

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

and his dad was Sylly Boner

by BobSacamano on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Sly Boner?

/auto-defenestrates

Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

So i’ve been told.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry, I think that means small

by microwave donut on Mar 11, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

if I remember right, his last name was Stabone, that’s why they called him “boner”

by FluLikeSymptoms on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before, but the usage of “boner” to mean a screwup originated with the Giants – the old New York Giants, though. It came after Fred Merkle made a baserunning mistake that cost the team dearly – cost them the pennant. It was called a “Bonehead” play, shortened to “boner.”

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad used to award ‘bonehead’ errors on our Babe Ruth team – plays that weren’t officially errors, but which resulted in the other team advancing a base (like throwing to the wrong base for exampl) – but only now am I creeped out by my dad giving my teammates and I boners.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Last name Stabone. Nickname Boner.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s because he always had an erection. You never noticed on screen because, well, let’s not bring that sad fact up.

by chilibean_3 on Mar 11, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

this reminds me

I never watched Married With Children, but I was familiar enough with the idea that Al Bundy stuck his hands down his pants (hello, Bruce Bochy). Anyway, I always thought he was supposed to be masturbating and that’s why his hands were down his pants.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I just think it’s comfortable.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, yes; this is a story of the misunderstandings of my youth.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I do it all the time when it’s cold in my house.

What?

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m doing it now at work. Then I’m gonna go touch stuff on some else’s desk. Open all the doors in the office. Dig around in the refrigerators. Shake my boss’ hand.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Why wouldn’t you also do it during warm weather?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t, because in warm weather I have no pants on.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you be wearing pants when it’s warm?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I have my reasons.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Weirdo

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Well listen, you can’t just expect me to spend my summers cooking pasta in unsalted water without any pants.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Would that make it unsalted and unpanted water?

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell that water to put its pants back on.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Mar 11, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You tell it.

I’m not going anywhere near pantless boiling water.

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve noticed in the last several years that the adolescent and young adult male population has a lot of members (ouch) who walk with one hand in a front pocket, and I want to ask them “Do you have a gun, or are you just getting in touch with yourself?”

What stays me is the thought that the former might be true.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Mar 11, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

may you live to find the answer

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD! Allow Goofus to show you

by greatgiantfan on Mar 11, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the other one giving a high five?

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 2:32 AM PST up reply actions  

or flicking a cigarette?

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 2:32 AM PST up reply actions  

or giving the peace sign?

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 2:33 AM PST up reply actions  

or playing the piano?

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 2:33 AM PST up reply actions  

or hailing a taxicab?

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Mar 12, 2010 2:33 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants undervalue OBP, eh? Hmmm….

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Mar 11, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

I find this allegation shocking. Shocking.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope he plays somewhere

If he starts somewhere…

AB: 530
BA: .283
OBP: .357
SLG: .420
HR: 9
SB: 23

Nobody likes money

by fwoty oz on Mar 11, 2010 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

I think I may go crazy if Fred puts up that line for someone else, and Ryan Garko outplays Huff this year.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Then I hope you are prepared for your imminent psychosis, because the possibility of both those events happening seems pretty high to me.

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by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I’m gonna book my room in the psych ward now.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

that's basically his career line, right?

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know, but probably.. I kinda eyeball combined 2007 and 2008.

Nobody likes money

by fwoty oz on Mar 11, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

aside from undervaluing OBP

The thing that drives me crazy about Fred-hate is that people always say things like, “When you look at him, he should be a power hitter! He should be an elite defender! He should steal 50 bases a year!” They don’t criticize what he actually does – they criticize him because he’s not the player who they’ve decided he’s supposed to be.

Of course, the Giants themselves were guilty of this last year, when they announced Fred would be an aggressive power hitter now because they were hitting him third.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

If he were 4 inches shorter, I think there would be fewer of those people.

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by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I am still upset that they moved him from leadoff, just because he didn’t like it there. Fred, I don’t give a shit if you don’t like it, you’re good at it. You wanna ride the pine instead?

I guess the answer was yes.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think Lewis has ever made it on base without David B. immediately saying something like, “This is really a time where Fred should look to steal a base. With the speed Lewis possesses, the Giants hope Lewis will turn into a consistent base-stealer, but so far that hasn’t been the case…”

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

“Lewis walks to load the bases. This is really a time where Fred should look to steal a base…”

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

“And for those of you just tuning in, Tim Lincecum has thrown 28 PITCHES THROUGH TWO INNINGS OMG HIS ARM WILL FALL OFF WITHIN HOURS!”

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

and my favorite Flem quote

“[insert name of scrub opposing pitcher] is really mowing them down tonight!”

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s an incomplete for Lars.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm using last year's projection with a few modifications

AB: 200
AVG: .306
OBP: .363
SLG: .426
HR: 1

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by Natto on Mar 11, 2010 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

The ERA seems a little low and the Ks a little high for the type of pitcher Sabes likes to target in trade for his freebies.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Fred

doesn’t swing often enough at pitches outside the zone. There’s no telling how much pressure wasn’t put on the defense from all the bloopers and dinkers he’s passed up with his cowardly approach at the plate.

by D4P on Mar 11, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Nice satire.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I can understand playing DeRosa over Lewis – similar OBP, but DeRosa has more power.

False dichotomy – right now Lewis should be starting in LF and DeRosa at 2B.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Mar 11, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Or DeRosa in RF, for that matter.

Or put DeRosa at third at Pablo at first. I bet Fred outhits Aubrey Freaking Huff. You know, the guy with the second lowest wOBA in baseball last year.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

okay, wait

I was misremembering which Giant it was who was next-to-last in wOBA – and actually, it was third-to-last. Still, Huff just makes the bottom ten (min. 500 PA):

1) Yuniesky Betancourt: .271
2) Emilio Bonifacio .277
3) Edgar Renteria .283
4) Jason Kendall: .290
5) David Eckstein .296
6) Kaz Matsui .297
6) Aubrey Huff .297
8) Cristian Guzman .301
9) Randy Winn .302
9) Pedro Feliz .302

LOL us.

Also, amusing that Guzman makes the list – he was on the ballot for the last all-star spot in 2009!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Bengie, by the way

comes in at #15 on that particular list.

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by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

he's busy handling pitchers

and ZOWIE RIBBIE MANUFACTURING

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

carp (paraphrased): "117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"

by natteringnabob on Mar 11, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, Kendall used to be a great player.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Mar 11, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The kiss of death was when the Pirates gave him a multi-year deal. That never ends well.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

All that Adderall finally got to him

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Mar 11, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Alderan?

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 11, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh Adderall
Kansas Royal baseball player Jason Kendall’s wife Chantel Kendall accuses Jason of using adderall which is used for add , adhd, also Adderall is also used as a performance enhancer.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Mar 11, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the implication that ADD and ADHD are different diseases. They’re the same thing! As far as Adderal’s performance-enhancing properties, the data is equivocal.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 11, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah who knows

Since “greenies” are no longer allowed in baseball, it’s no surprise that baseball players may be turning to Adderall to get the boost that the “greenies” used to provide. In fact, it was reported in Newsweek in 2008 that the number of players who had granted exemptions from baseball’s ban on amphetamines so they could use Adderall rose from 28 to 103 in a single year.

If this trend continues it’s not too crazy to assume that Adderall may be the next target in baseball’s ongoing war against performance-enhancing drugs. Which, would be somewhat ridiculous if you think about it. It’s all right to give the drug to your kids, but let’s not let baseball players use it. They might play better.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Mar 11, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Since "greenies" are no longer allowed in baseball, it’s no surprise that baseball players may be turning to Adderall to get the boost that the "greenies" used to provide.

Actually, Adderall IS a “greenie”.

by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s not much to Alderan now is there?

Too soon?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, it resembles Krypton now.

I wonder if shards of Alderaan act as anti-midichlorians?

WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way...

I think that question qualifies as one of the 10 nerdiest to ever appear on this blog.

WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick, make a comment about Bail Organa’s penis!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

They called him Bail because that is what girls would do when he whipped it out!

WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus it’s easier to say than Deep Throat Organa.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, little known fact: Bail Organa was an anonymous source for a story about the Emperor in the Mos Eisley Tribune.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

They bailed when they saw his “organa”.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Mar 11, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Against stiff competition, it must be noted.

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Well not really, cause Jedis aren’t solely from Alderan.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Mar 11, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not so much anti-midichlorians so much, but a reduction in the overall number of midicholorians (they are living matter) and thus their overall effectiveness on the Force.

Kind of like if Posey caught 30,000 games, he would be WAY more effective than he is now.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If Posey caught 30,000 more games, his knees would be fused.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 11, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you really just answer a post about Star Wars midichlorians with a logical response to Posey catching 30,000 games?

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The three prequals don't exist, therefore, midichlorians are fanfic bullshit. But fine...

If Posey caught 30,000 games, his knees would be frozen… in carbonite!

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Mar 11, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

They should be quite well protected. If they survived the freezing process, that is.

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Jporny: “I love you”
LOLFRED: “I know”

WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

McCovey Chronicles Spreadsheet Clutching Nerd:
The chances of successfully navigating an asteroid file are 3,720 to 1.

Bochy: BORK!!!

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Fear is the path to the Bork side

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

fixed

Bork leads to anger. Bork leads to hate. Bork leads to suffering.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 11, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was the requirement for him in the minors before he got to start with the big club.

by Dubbs42 on Mar 12, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like he crashed really quickly.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think his ‘reputation’ as a left fielder only will limit his trade value and we’ll get nothing for him. The Yankees could use him. Not as much as us, but you know…

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

The Yankees could use Fred Lewis.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Mar 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Possibly Cashman’s most hilarious misinterpretation of the motto “Win Now”.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Rumor has it he may also try to bring this guy out of retirement:

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder I've never heard of good 'ol Herm

With a swing like that…

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by thehavenot on Mar 11, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Oddly enough, that’s his foreswing.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t talk about his foreskin in public!

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

74 career OPS+! With a line of .239 / .296 / .334.

And yet he managed to play in the majors for nine years. Baseball is weird sometimes.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

While staying home from work to sweat out a cold last week, I watched a Tivo’d Giants/Reds classic game from 1989. Herm was in the mix, as was a guy in the bleachers who caught Terry Kennedy’s HR. What was noteworthy was that the guy who caught the ball was wearing a neon-pink cap and a neon-pink t-shirt, and caught the ball with a cig in his mouth. Oh, baseball in the ’80’s.

Players of the game for the Giants (a 9-8 win after falling behind 8-0): Thrill, Mike Laga, Greg Litton, Donnell Nixon, Ernie Riles, TK and Bill Bathe. I could watch those classic games all day long.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, man. I totally remember watching that game when it was first on! Wasn’t Chris Speier in it too?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Speier came off the bench in the 9th to drive in a run (the tying run, I think). I still remember that game when he hit for the cycle.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Should say, I LEFT this game early, and missed the end. :(

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why I refuse to leave games early!

Well, one reason. The other being sheer stubbornness.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, this was in Cinci, I must be thinking of a similar game then. I dunno, I was only seven in ’89. But I swear I remember a game where we were down by a ton, so my mom made us leave early, and on the way home we listened as the Giants scored a ton of runs in the ninth, capped with a grand slam.

I remember telling my mom that the sound of the grand slam ball hitting an empty seat sure sounded a lot like the seat I’d been sitting in, and trying to make her feel bad.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I could see myself trying to convince my mom of the same thing at age 7. And failing miserably.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this the one...

Where Bathe hit a grandslam to tie or pull ahead?

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This was the game in question: 9/4/89

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm...

I remember a game from my youth where the Giants were down 8-0 and Billy Bathe hit a grandslam to tie the game I think.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well,

This goes to show. Never trust my memory. Bathe never had more than 3 RBI in a game. Now I don’t know what to think!

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Mar 11, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Hank Greenwald mentioned it roughly 14 times during the game I previously mentioned, I remember that Ernest Riles hit a grand slam at Philly when the Giants were down 2-1 in the 9th inning. 8/20/89 if you want nostalgia and proof at the same time.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at a Red Sox-A’s game that night. What I remember was seeing the scoreboard read 8-0 and as the Giants chipped away, A’s fans were cheering the Giants comeback.

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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by SFGuy on Mar 11, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s good.

Fun Fact: Jonathan Sanchez threw his first no-no on my 13th birthday.

by Ramah71 on Mar 11, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully, Lewis will take that useless bag of bones BUST Posey with him on his way to AAA Nowhere! (Royals affiliate)

/sfgate’d

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

Believe Gerald Posey needs to be more muscely to succeed as catcher.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, the Royals AAA affiliate is in the same town as the parent club?

Adoptive parent of Kevin "The Stopgap" Frandsen.

by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey!

Omaha and Kansas City are entirely different municipalities! But yeah, Omaha is more or less nowhere.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 11, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

As opposed to the great megalopolis of Fresno!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Mar 11, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The island of misfit toys

WHY IS BENGIE?!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm sure this will get lost in the shuffle...

But the word parent club triggered the following image:

by Every6thDay on Mar 11, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

His arm is like a dead stick.

Fun Fact: Jonathan Sanchez threw his first no-no on my 13th birthday.

by Ramah71 on Mar 11, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d because the photoshopping is so bad it’s funny.

Fun Fact: Jonathan Sanchez threw his first no-no on my 13th birthday.

by Ramah71 on Mar 11, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Must be…I can see the pixels.

by Merope on Mar 11, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

And look how skinny Sabes is.

The Giants offseason moves - "meh"
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by SFGuy on Mar 11, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

they have a parent club?

by microwave donut on Mar 11, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t bring myself to post a prediction out of sorrow for Lewis’ imminent departure.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

FREE FRED

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Mar 11, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

With every purchase of a Velez!

WHY IS BENGIE?!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s exactly what the Giants will be telling other teams when they try to trade him.

Eagerly anticipating adding to my Giants family.

by giantsfansince1981 on Mar 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see Fred in a D-Backs uni

hitting behind Upton

/sadface

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Mar 11, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

Fred Lewis for Chris Young?

At least he strikes out swinging…

"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."

by Azantor on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Urban Is Wrong.

With Freddy Sanchez likely to open the season on the DL there is room on a 13 man positon player roster for both Lewis and Velez as members of the bench.

by giantsrainman on Mar 11, 2010 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

But not for Lewis, Velez, and Torres. Unless the team were to carry 3 backup OFs and only one backup IF, which seems crazy, or no backup catcher, which seems crazier but they did do it for a while last year.

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by EliminateMe on Mar 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, DeRosa could technically be another backup infielder, in a pinch.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Mar 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d probably be more comfortable in the infield anyway.

by fantastical on Mar 12, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

and Pablo could back up C

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Mar 11, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 14
AVG: .214
OBP: .352
SLG: .285
HR: 0
E: 2
DFA: 1

If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.

by wjackalope on Mar 11, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

This makes me angry

only because the Giants are this stupid – they genuinely believe Freddie Sanchez is a good player because he’s an “all-star, .300 hitter” or that Lewis “Doesn’t know how to win.” It seems like such a comprehension fail that teams still assess talent this way.

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Mar 11, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

Are teams other than the Giants still doing it this way? It doesn’t seem like it.

by The Double Deuce on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Mets, Astros, Royals. So the Giants and the three most poorly run teams in the game.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Mar 11, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

so the four most poorly run teams in the game, then?

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

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#52

by cloudydays on Mar 11, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Pirates find could find their way onto this list. The Giants haven’t made the playoffs since Barry Bonds left. Neither have the Bucs.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They seem like they are turning things around with their new gm.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 11, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but 17 straight years without a playoff appearance is downright Warriorsesque.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Mar 11, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t it 17 years under .500?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Mar 11, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

if fred were a real pro he’d stop hitting singles with the bases empty.

by fantastical on Mar 12, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, the Warriors do it in a league where more than half the teams make the playoffs. Only a quarter make it out of the NL. Plus, as someone else mentioned, they have a whole new FO and they’re actually good. Give it a couple of years, but the Pirates are turning things around.

(I love that they haven’t been respectable a single year since Bonds left. So awesome)

by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

BEST SHAPE OF THEIR LIVES

TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development

by zenbitz on Mar 12, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Personally, I'm a huge fan of Neal Huntington

IMO he’s one of the 10 best GM’s in baseball

Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
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Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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by Gobroks on Mar 11, 2010 5:41 PM PST up