Predict the 2011 Top Ten Prospects
by jcb9 on Feb 25, 2010 4:15 PM PST
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PrintIt's really a guessing game, but just for shits and giggles, let's try predicting who'll be on next year's top ten organizational prospects list. There are a number of things to take into account: who will no longer be eligible? If we're remotely close to contention, who will Sabean trade for a shitty veteran? Who will have a breakout season, and who will fall off the map?
Predicting draft pick's is just silly at this point, so you can use (first round pick), etc., as a placeholder. I suppose you can also use (international signing) as a placeholder, too.
If we get a sufficient number of 'll revisit this post in a year's time, and (imaginary) awards will be given to the most accurate prediction, the least accurate prediction, and the best out-of-left-field pick. So be bold!
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I'll start
1) Zack Wheeler RHP
2) Thomas Neal OF
3) Tommy Joseph 1B
4) Rafael Rodriguez OF
5) Roger Kieschnick OF
6) Hector Sanchez C
7) Matt Graham RHP
8) (First Round Pick)
9) Nick Noonan 2B
10) Jason Stoffel RHP
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
My very own prediction
1) Zack Wheeler RHP
2) Thomas Neal OF
3) Tommy Joseph 1B
4) Rafael Rodriguez OF
5) Roger Kieschnick OF
6) Hector Sanchez C
7) Matt Graham RHP
8) (First Round Pick)
9) Nick Noonan 2B
10) Jason Stoffel RHP
Kosuke Fukudome. Dickie Thon. Jung Bong. Pete LaCock. Best. Baseball Names. Ever.
Depends on the first round pick.
Also, looks like you are going with a pitcher as numero uno. Wonder if Neal will be on the giants by that time.
My guess is Neal comes up in September and hits well. He’ll be starting in the outfield in 2011 unless Bowker gets the chance to have a great year somehow.
by fantastical on Feb 25, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
1. Zack Wheeler
2. Tommy Joseph
3. Rafael Rodriguez
4. Nick Noonan
5. Matt Graham
6. (First Round Pick)
7. Roger Kieschnick
8. Ehire Adrianza
9. Jason Stoffel
10. Francisco Peguero
I’m planning on Thomas overplaying his rookie status in the majors. I think Noonan will have a breakout year and RafRod will hold his own at Augusta (he’s going to Augusta, right?)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think they plan on sending RafRod to SK
I don’t know that for sure though
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
1. Buster Posey
2. Thomas Neal
3. Nick Noonan
4. Zack Wheeler
5. Rafael Rodriguez
6. Ehire Adrianza
7. Jedd Gyorko
8. Tommy Joseph
9. Aaron King
10. Brandon Crawford.
Your Aaron King inclusion has inspired me to mention that I almost put Chris Gloor in my top ten, just because I’ll look like a genius if he has a breakthrough season.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Needs moar Kieschnick!
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"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 25, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
/swings at a slider that even Aaron Rowand wouldn’t swing at
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 25, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
/has relative who was both a big league hitter and a pitcher
//so there
Proud member of The Gentlemen of Leisure.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 25, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
So Grant shows his hold card and it is the Jedi Warrior. What position do you have him playing?
Interesting to see how many in the faithful have Adrianza rated higher than Crawford
What position do you have him playing?
Hitter.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 25, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
So you have Posey not getting the 130 AB's he needs (technically 113 for this year)
So over/under 100 Posey AB’s this year?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Half of those prospects will be traded in July because we’ll be kinda sorta in somewhere with a thing.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Wow Jedd Gyorko is a cool name
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Scouting Report: Does not have a disciplined swing and no obvious position as a professional due to suspect defense.
http://www.baseballrumormill.com/players/jedd-gyorko
Haven’t really read up on him, though.
No Surkamp, Grant?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
1-Zack Wheeler
2-Francisco Peguero
3-Thomas Neal
4-Rafeal Rodriguez
5-1st rd draft pick (Current projected pick: Stetson Allie-RHP/3B)
6-Tommy Joseph
7-Ehire Adrianza
8-Conor Gillaspie
9-Roger Kieschnick
10-Matt Graham
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
just for shits and giggles
Every time I hear this phrase, I picture someone pooping and laughing at the same time.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
/fart AHAHAHAHA /kicks things
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 25, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Like Aaron Rowand watching an Aaron Rowand at bat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Is there any other way to poop?
"Forget it Donny, you're out of your element"-Walter Sobchak
by icanplaythird on Feb 26, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
crying
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 26, 2010 1:52 AM PST up reply actions
Oh no you di-in’t
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 25, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
THis was my first thought.
But, he’ll be old for his level now so…he might slip down to 2nd or 3rd.
File this one in the Lincecum to NYY in 2013 for 300 million folder.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
- Neal
- Wheeler
- RafRod
- Joseph
- (1st Round Pick)
- Graham
- Noonan
- Peguero
- Second round pick or top IFA signing
- Crawford
- Fairley
My career path, have you seen it?
You left out the “0” in Fairley’s “101” ranking.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
I actually think I included TOO MANY 1’s!!
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 26, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
1. Neal-Just barely keeps eligibility
2. Wheeler
3. Joseph
4. First round pick (I guess they go over slot)
5. Kieschnick
6. RafRod
7. Noonan
8. Peguero
9. Crawford
10. Concepcion
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Feb 25, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions
Hmm
1. Neal
2. Wheeler
3. Joseph
4. RafRod
5. Noonan
6. Adrianza (yes, I’m a believer)
7. 2010 first round draft pick
8. Crawford
9. Kiechnick
10. Matt Graham
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
1. Wheeler
2. Joseph
3. RafRod
4. (First Round Pick)
5. Kieschnick
6. Noonan
7. Peguero
8. Crawford
9. Hector Sanchez
10. Stoffel
When Huff starts stinking it up at 1B, Sabes will call Neal up to takeover at 1B. Then when Bork wants Posey to play 1B, then Neal can move over to LF. VERSATILITY FTW!!!
1 Neal
2 RafRod
3 Wheeler
4 Peguero
5 Stoffel
6 Noonan
7 Crawford
8 Joseph
9 Aaron King
10 Jorge Bucardo
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Feb 25, 2010 9:57 PM PST reply actions
Did someone make the 1-Posey joke yet?
Cause I think we should take advantage of his prospect status and trade him for some good pitching. We’ll need it in october.
I’m serious about mine. I don’t think Posey gets 113 at-bats in the majors this year. Not with Molina’s contract incentives.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 25, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
True, but rookie status can be lost by just being on the 25 man roster for so long. And if he can beat that Eli guy (won’t be easy!) for the backup job he wont be rookie next year.
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 26, 2010 4:44 AM PST up reply actions
My guess is that the Giants are far enough out of contention and Posey dominates the PCL enough that Phone Company Park will break out into a full-scale riot if Posey doesn’t play.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m guessing Molina has enough physical decline this year that he’s forced onto the DL at some point. Actually I left Neal off my list because I have the same concerns about the DeRosa/Sanchez combination, with a side helping of not believing Nate can hold his starting position all year, to guess that Neal might get a “trying to catch lightning in the bottle call up” later in the summer.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’m guessing Molina has enough physical decline this year that he’s forced onto the DL at some point. Actually I left Neal off my list because I have the same concerns about the DeRosa/Sanchez combination, with a side helping of not believing Nate can hold his starting position all year, to guess that Neal might get a “trying to catch lightning in the bottle call up” later in the summer.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Wow, wonder what’s coming next.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’m guessing Molina has enough physical decline this year that he’s forced onto the DL at some point. Actually I left Neal off my list because I have the same concerns about the DeRosa/Sanchez combination, with a side helping of not believing Nate can hold his starting position all year, to guess that Neal might get a "trying to catch lightning in the bottle call up" later in the summer.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Great idea, jcb!
1) Thomas Neal OF
2) Zach Wheeler SP
3) Brandon Crawford SS
4) Tommy Joseph 1B
5) Rafael Rodriguez OF
6) Darren Ford OF
7) Matt Graham RHP
8) Hector Sanchez C
9) (First Round Pick)
10) Nick Noonan 2B
I’m guessing Stoffel is in the majors by this time next year. I think Kieschnick will drop just out of the top ten – maybe #12 or so, depending on the progress of the legion of semi-average starting pitchers.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
1. Tommy Joseph
2. Zack Wheeler
3. Francisco Peguero
4. Rafael Rodriguez
5. (First Round Pick)
6. Roger Kieschnick
7. Ehire Adiranza
8. Jose Casilla
9. Jorge Bucardo
10. Edward Concepcion
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I thought about having Joseph or Neal #1, myself.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
As I noted above, I made the (possibly dubious) assumption that Neal and Posey would lose their eligibility this year.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I approve of your aggressive Peguero ranking
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Take this to Vegas...
…assuming you can find a place in Vegas to bet on this sort of thing.
1. Neal
2. Wheeler
3. Crawford
4. RafRod
5. TJ
6. 1st rounder
7. Hector Sanchez
8. Noonan
9. Kieschnick
10. Intl signing
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
1) Zack Wheeler RHP
2) Thomas Neal OF
3) Rafael Rodriguez OF
4) Tommy Joseph C
5) (2010 First Round Pick)
6) Nick Noonan 2B
7) Edward Concepcion RHP
8) Roger Kieschnick OF
9) Jose Casilla RHP
10) Matt Graham RHP
Next 5 (unordered): Jason Stoffel RHP, Duanel Jones 3B, Francisco Perguero OF, Waldis Juaquin RHP, Hector Sanchez C
We’re pretty position player heavy right now. It’ll be interesting to see how all the power arms at the lower levels sort themselves out this year.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
i don’t think duanel jones is on the giants anymore. they voided his contract about a month ago or so.
by travis j bagdad on Feb 26, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
He will be, though. He will be.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
He failed a drug test...
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Is your point that the Giants can’t, won’t, or shouldn’t, therefore, sign him? Because the first is wrong, the second and third are debatable. I’m just making a prediction of what will happen a year from now.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
I don't think they will sign him
16 year olds who fail drug tests normally don’t get second chances
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I can't see it happening with Jones though in this economy
I think teams are being more cautious with their money-look at Wagner Mateo. He was supposed to be a premier talent and because of an injury/eye problem no one has signed him even for cheap. With Jones failing a drug test, I’d guess his chances of being signed are slim to none
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Fun idea. Thanks. Here goes...
1. Neal (2010 September call-up, maintains eligibility)
2. Wheeler (Shows great FB and developing 2ndry stuff)
3. Joseph (Starts slow , finishes well and displays LTP)
4. Rodriguez (Vladdy-like development still on track)
5. Concepcion (GB, K ratios drop slightly but still good)
6. Kieschnick (Improves plate discipline, keeps power)
7. Stoffel (Will move quickly up ladder, reach SF in 2010)
8. Noonan (Looks to be heir-apparent to Freddy in ’12)
9. Sanchez (On track to back up Posey )
10. First round draft choice… my personal favorite: Tyler Holt, FSU.
Hopefully this is not too overly optimistic.
by baseballjunkie on Feb 26, 2010 11:24 AM PST reply actions
1. Neal – rips it in AA and moves up to AAA, becomes top 20 MLB prospect
2. Wheeler – the next great Giants arm, dominates in Augusta
3. Crawford – finishes in AAA, ready to take over shortstop for Giants in ‘11
4. Noonan – improves plate discipline, has steady season in AA
5. Joseph – hits for power but in need of position
6. RafRod – hits over .300 as 18 year old in Salem
7. Kieschnick – 25 bombs, 90 rbis in AA and lots of k’s
8. Graham – regains command, has breakout year in Augusta
9. Peguero – continues to improve, reaches AA (if not traded at deadline)
10. Stoffel – does a Runzler and blows through system to reach bullpen by Sept.
11. Adrianza – solid season in San Jose, continues to improve at plate
12. Sanchez – hits over .300 in Augusta and could move higher on list
13. Tanner – emerges as solid rotation candidate in ’11 (if not traded at deadline)
14. Bucardo – combines with Wheeler and Graham (and Gloor + Toole) in dominant Augusta rotation
15. Fairley – finally puts it all together and has solid year in San Jose
by crazedcrustacean on Feb 26, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions
Thats good point you make on Crawford. I would say that out of all the prospects Crawford is probably the keystone of next off season, and has the most pressure riding on him out of all of the players.
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 26, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I totally agree
I think our entire developmental process will take off dramatically if BCrawford can take over SS next year, after having successfully established himself in AAA this year. Conversely, his lack of success this year would really put the organization in a bind – and likely lead to another hasty FA signing next winter.
Clearly, Neal and Posey offer a good deal of hope for the near future, but Brandon’s 2010 may well decide the fate of the rather-iffy 2011/2012 era. But 2013 and beyond, I think things look very promising.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
Why do you feel so optimistic past 2013, Lyle? I always get hives just thinking about Lincecum’s walk year.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Well, to be honest, I’m more focused on improving our offense than I am on maintaining our pitching. And, in the real world, I realize you have to do both. I’d like to think that the Giants Pitching Magic continues to unearth useful arms during this decade, allowing me to daydream about potential batting lineups.
In short, I think we will be able to count on…
1. Posey
2. Neal
3. Noonan (or at least Downs)
4. Crawford (or at least Adrianza)
5. Hector Sanchez
6. Peguero
…in the coming years, and hopefully either Bowker or Kieschnick turns into something useful, at minimum. So I see good things ahead.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
I guess, as you know I believe in the value of impact players. I think if you take Lincecum away our pitching staff takes a huge step backwards and we’re not too likely to come up with another of him once he’s gone (certainly he’s the best Giants pitcher since Marichal, so by that science we won’t see a replacement for him until after 2050). If the pitching becomes just “useful” then you’re having to come up with a team based on an impact offense. Hopefully Posey, Panda and Neal give us a head start on that, but I wouldn’t want to bet on a Giants club whose calling card is a fearsome offense as long as the current regime’s around. And, I guess, my feeling ultimately is that Posey’s the only member of that group I’m willing to count on. Neal I believe in. Peguero I have hopes for, and the descending scale continues to decline from there on down.
In short, the next 3 years are crucial for our development. Some of these bats need to get up here and start thundering before the bright lights of New York sing their clarion call to Timmy and/or his agent (not to mention Matt and/or his agent).
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
1) Thomas Neal OF
2) Rafael Rodriguez OF
3) Matt Graham RHP
4) Zack Wheeler RHP
5) Stefan Sabol C
6) Ehire Adrianza SS
7) Brett Pill 1B
8) Gary Brown CF
9) Nick Noonan 2B
10) Tom Joseph C
I thought about Pill, but I had him at #11
Who do you have as the first round pick, Sabol or Brown?
by baseballjunkie on Feb 26, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Sabol in the first round then Brown in the second round. Unless of course Mr Dick Tidrow falls in love with a pitcher.
That certainly could happen
This draft, by early indications, seems pretty strong for pitching. But I’d really like to see the Giants go for some bats. Like you, I’d like to see the Giants go for a CF early, hence my pick of Tyler Holt from FSU. I have a feeling he will rise up the boards in the months leading up to the draft. I don’t think he will be there when the Giants pick in the second round (neither do I think Brown will be available either, actually) so I’d be ok if they sprung for him in the first. But the reality is that we probably end up with a pitcher, but given the Giants track record with arms that wouldn’t be a bad thing.
by baseballjunkie on Feb 26, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going to see Holt play tomorrow!
We’re going to our first FSU game. It’s against Hofstra – there hasn’t been a Major Leaguer from Hofstra since the 80s, and there currently aren’t any Hofstra players in the minor leagues – only one has been drafted since 1995. So it’s not such a high level of competition. But I’ll definitely keep an eye on Holt and Mike McGee, their other All-American who’s also a junior this year.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
If you think about it, Neal won’t be #1 next year. If he hits well enough to justify a #1rating, there’s no way this team will be going along well enough that he won’t get called up to replace some faltering part of the offense. I think you have to predict him to be 3 or lower, or to lose his eligibility.
FU, FO
Nah
He’ll get called up but only get 5 PA’s per week
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I don’t see how you justify calling up Neal from AA. And I don’t foresee him dominating in Richmond the way Crawford did in San Jose last year, necessitating Thomas getting an early promotion to Fresno (and thence on to SF). Not saying it COULDN’T happen, I just think it’s highly unlikely that all the necessary intermediate moves happen that would pave the way for this.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
Are you talking about the call up from AA specific to Neal, Lyle, because the Giants certainly have called players straight up from the EL in the past few years: Panda and Rohlinger in 2008, and Ishikawa in 2006 springing immediately to mind.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Ishikawa was because of a sudden injury, as I recall, and it was a weird decision anyway. But yes, you’re right.
I believe both Sergio Romo and Osiris Matos were originally called up straight from AA, too.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
No, Ishikawa was a classic Sabean “lightning in a bottle” attempt to get lucky at 1B after they’d decided to bench Niekro but before they’d made the Hillenbrand trade. Strangely Ishi performed better in his brief time than either of the other two.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
No, I’m just saying that when you multiply the 65% chance that Neal dominates AA by the 50% chance he dominates AAA (all in this year), you get a fairly low percentage (32.5% if I’m doing it right) of likelihood that Neal is justifiably in SF in September. As you’ve pointed out, those wacky SF promotions are always a possibility. But, in a sane world, the odds of Neal being on the Giants this year are low.
Believe me, if he deserved to be up in September, I’d be THRILLED beyond belief – I’m a Neal fan already, and have him penciled in for LF for 2012 already. A year early would be fine by me. I just don’t see it happening.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
Cameron Lamb/Edward Concepcion
Both in the top 10. Concepcion almost for sure. Lamb anywhere from 8-15.
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Wow. I’d say Lamb would be having a pretty successful year if he could break into the Top 30. (Concepcion too, but as I went hyper-aggressive Top 10 on him as well, I must nod in agreement on that bit of craziness).
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
1. Wheeler (dominates the Sally in a Bumgarner type fashion but shows a filthy breaking ball)
2. Neal (doesn’t quite replitcate his 09 numbers but plays very well and removes any doubts about his defense.
3. Joseph (hit for power and average but looks lost behind the plate. Giants are still going to try and let him figure things out, but this tempers his value going into 2011)
4. R. Rodriguez (Still competent and well rounded play, especially for his age. A couple more doubles, but still 0 HRs in an additional 150 ABs at S-K.)
5. Roger Kieshnick (further improves plate discipline from second half of ‘09. Puts up a .280/.360/.540 line.
6 Nick Noonan (Really has a strong year. Hits .295/.370/.470 in AA. Still needs work against lefties)
7. Chevez Clarke (Board meltdown when he’s drafted. Though to be Wendell part 2. Clarke surprises with a refined bat, doubles pop and elite speed in his short time at S-K)
8. Peguero (K/BB ratio is awful once again. Every other skill is on display including emerging HR power)
9. Bucardo (continues to put up great numbers. His fastball velocity surprises really elevating his status.
10. Surkamp (K’s 11/9 mostly in AA. Fastball is beginning to sit around 90 to go with plus curve and change.)
Just missed: Ford, Stoffel, Concepcion, Graham, Leonardo Fuentes
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Feb 27, 2010 9:24 AM PST reply actions
forgot Crawford. I’d throw him in at 7. K’s still concern me.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Feb 27, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Ouch!
I just jumped off my stairs when I read your #7 rank. I need a splint, stat!
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
1. Neal
2. Posey
3. Crawford
4. Wheeler
5. First Rounder
6. Kieschnik
7. Rodriguez
8. Joseph
9. Noonan
10. Pill
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Bold move!
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
This has one foot in jest the other in deeply depressed reality.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
OK, not much new to add
1 Neal, LF and 1B. Should try him in RF too.
2 Bumgarner getting more development time to work on offspeed and stamina
3 first round pick, probably a power RHP
4 Z Wheeler
5 Francisco Peguero CF
6 Edward Concepcion P
7 Tommy Joseph, C or 1B
8 Matt Graham P
9 Brandon Crawford, SS talented enough to hit in AAA, anyway
10 J Stoffel, closer
sleepers/ lurkers: Surkamp, Tanner, RafRod, Casilla, Noonan, Kieshnick
too much ML time to be prospects: Pucetas, Johnson, Downs
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
Wow, I believe you’ve got not one, but two, players who are no longer in the organization in your sig — that might be the all time record!
Interesting that you think next year’s 1st round pick (at #24) will be higher rated than last year’s 1st round pick (at #6). Is that an indication that you think Wheeler will struggle significantly this year?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
MadBum and Posey
1. Posey
2. MadBum
3. Neal
4. Wheeler
5. First Rounder Pitcher
6. Tommy Joseph
7. RafRod
8. Noonan
9. Matt Graham (top ten needs moar pitchers)
10. Crawford (Gets my vote for close to the majors top ten filler)
The shine will come of E-Hire when more eyes are on him to expose little flaws. Maybe Sosa should have been my dark horse choice for somewhere in the top ten pitching prospect.
But worst of all, I can see Posey and Madbum still having rookie elligibility next year. Which might not be a bad thing. Maybe more likely they will both get enough time in the majors to ruin any chance at RoY consideration, qualify as Super Twos, but not contriubute in a fmeaningful way to the team – that is as back up catcher for Posey and long relief or bullpen arm for MadBum.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
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