Community Projections: Aaron Rowand
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 25, 2010 10:28 AM PST
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Print(Constructing a preseason scenario in which the 2009 Giants make the playoffs) still requires some imagination, but you don't need to break laws of nature to get there. Let's see, Matt Cain takes a huge step forward (25% chance of happening), Aaron Rowand rebounds substantially (25%), Pablo Sandoval hits .320 with power (25%), and Barry Zito is a league-average pitcher (25%), and the Giants are contenders! That sure reads nice, but 25%4 comes out to about .4%. All four of those happening at the same time? Not bloody likely. But there are an infinite number of permutations that would lead, however unlikely, to a playoff berth.
Right around August, this out-o’-the-nether-regions hypothetical scenario really began to bug me. Cain was allowing fewer runs, even if he wasn’t necessarily pitching differently. Pablo Sandoval was hitting .330 with power, and, by gum, Barry Zito was a league average pitcher. The Giants were close, however unlikely, to a playoff berth. I was so, so close to having something to put on the dust jacket of the hardbound version of The McCovey Chronicles Companion.
But Aaron Rowand did not rebound substantially. Actually, it was kind of disingenuous to suggest that by hitting well, he would have rebounded to what we should expect. Rowand had an Aaron Rowand season. Get used to it. He hacks, he flails, he occasionally hits one 415 feet, and he does okay in center. This is how it will be until he enters his decline phase. Which, of course, could have already started, and could move quickly from the first quarter of a slow decline to a waxing gibbous decline over the next six months. But that’s just too horrific to think about. I prefer to think that this streaky, imperfect, yet somewhat useful player is the least the Giants are going to receive for their money. Thinking anything worse leads to night tremors.
There’s another possibility, too.
Maybe you want to abandon any pretense of logic and point out that Rowand has a monster season every three years.
2004: .310 batting average! .361 on-base percentage! .544 slugging percentage! Twenty-four home runs!
2005: .270/.329/.407, 13 home runs
2006: .262/.321/.425, 12 home runs
2007: .309 batting average! .374 on-base percentage! .515 slugging percentage! Twenty-seven home runs!
2008: .271/.331/.410, 13 home runs
2009: .261/.319/.419, 15 home runs
Maybe you want to think of Rowand as some sort of squat-stanced comet, making a thunderous appearance with an astronomical consistency. Maybe you want to think of Rowand as some sort of wall-kissing cicada, lying dormant until it’s time to spring forth and devour everything in its path. Maybe you’re convinced that the every three years thing is a real pattern. I mean, who would bet against him?
Well, me. Probably you. That guy who is creepily standing behind you as you read this right now. We’ll all feel pretty comfortable betting against another monster season from Aaron Rowand. Like Aubrey Huff, though, those pyritic career years are just so tantalizing, so tangible, it’s hard not to think, "what if he does it again?", even if that sort of thinking defies all logic. At this point, betting on him to even split the difference between a career year and typical year is laughable.
Other systems:
PECOTA: 517 AB, .275/.341/.427, 17 HR
ZiPS: 476 AB, .273/.335/.431, 14 HR
Bill James: 574 AB, .267/.327/.423, 17 HR
CHONE: 503 AB, .262/.324/.408, 14 HR
I’d set the over/under using the ZiPS projection. And while the PECOTA projection wouldn’t be too bad -- especially from the, uh, leadoff hitter -- I’m thinking it’s more of a CHONE kind of year for the warrior spirit and/or the swagger:
Aaron Rowand:
AB: 439
AVG: .259
OBP: .318
SLG: .401
HR: 13
Night tremors: yeah, I guess. I don't think the move to leadoff is going to help anyone. I'm just glad he isn't Gary Matthews, Jr..
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I know a generic stat like ERA is frowned upon
But Robb Nen alternated years with sub-3 ERAs from ’94 to ’02. I drafted Fantasy Teams accordingly.
Also, this false optimism is delicious.
Reggie Sanders was good for this as well...
Pretty much went good year-bad year from 1994-2007. The Giants had one of his less sucky “bad years” in 2002.
I remember thinking the same thing about Bret Saberhagen in fantasy leagues of old, but the pattern isn’t as clear as I remember. Maybe just wins from a fantasy standpoint: 10-20-7-18-14-23-5-13-3-7 from 1984-1993.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" – Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02
I was just about to mention Saberhagen. I don’t recall any players having a 3-year cycle though.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Also, this is the year that Rowand starts earning $12M per season until the end of 2012.
:-(
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Wasn't he basically getting that before?
Adding in the annual bonus payments to his salary, wasn’t it $12M/year already?
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.268/.317/.411
HR: 12
-5 UZR
22% more VROOOM due to batting leadoff
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BUT HES IN THE BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE!
AB: 525
Avg: .270
OBP: .335
SLG: .420
HR: 14
Diving catches: 26
Diving catch attempts: 162
Errant Throws: 8.59236E+11
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
He’s not going to cut the relish.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
They should coat him in kevlar and have him lean into every pitch Biggio-style.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Feb 25, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Avg: .280
OBP: .335
SLG: .404
HR:18
RBI: 72
-4 UZR
Number of “I’M POOPIN!” posts in gameday threads: 542
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by Speedforthewin on Feb 25, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions
Well
Since we’re entering the third year of his Giants contract, it’s just about time for Rowand’s every third year surge.
04: .310/.361/.544
07: .309/.374/.515
Therefore, 2010 will probable be something like
AB: 500
.300/.360/.500
20 HRs
… that’s science.
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Sorry for the ugly
AB: 465
AVG: 254
OBP: 299
SLG: 396
HR: 12
SB: 2
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Question to Grant
Do the lower AB’s involve a DL stint for all the best-shape-of-his-life-ishness?
Or are those reflective of the AB’s Eugenio will be consuming for a month after his week of hot hitting?
I guess it could be a crapload of sacrifice bunts moving Cain over.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Obviously, it’s his new-found hobby of collecting walks.
/blank stare
by KrazyKrabMeat on Feb 25, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Bochy said he’s going to rest Rowand more this year. Not that we should believe anything Bochy says.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
AB: 522
AVG: 264
OBP: 351
SLG: 448
HR: 16
A guy can dream, can’t he?
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by Panty Inspector on Feb 25, 2010 10:51 AM PST reply actions
maybe a tad optimistic?
AB: 531
AVG: .271
OBP: .332
SLG: .426
HR: 16
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It’s really sad that this is an optimistic projection for a guy we owe $36 million to.
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It’s really sad that this is an optimistic projection for a guy we the Giants owe $36 million to. LOL you don’t need to pay any of that $36 million.
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I guess
jcb literally doesn’t, since he probably won’t be going to games, but any season ticket holders or anyone paying for tickets or concessions DOES have to pay that money.
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Thanks to roger
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I think he will start off really well, hitting something like
.304/.359/.495 with 12 HR in the first half and making everyone think OMG IT’S THE THIRD YEAR HE’S GOING TO BE GREAT!!!
and then in the second half he will plummet and end up with
.261/.312/.400 with 16 HR in about 530 AB (overall)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Like he always does
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Feb 25, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
I'll agree with this one.
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fact
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by Speedforthewin on Feb 25, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Haha the Media superstar question pissed off Frandsen, you can tell
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Feb 25, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Rebound year!
AB: 501
AVG: .275
OBP: .340
SLG: .435
HR: 17
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I should’ve just plus oned yours.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Feb 25, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
He should play for the Warriors!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
That would just confuse the Warriors.
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Too much liability risk
Nadz would launch himself projectile-style into the stands going after every loose ball.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
The Kings already have him.
He plays under the name Andres Nocioni.
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I’m really just at the point where I’m so sick of this Sabean run organization I kind of want to see all the veterans to get hurt just to stick it to Sabean and his losing strategy, and to give us an actual chance to see guys like Schierholtz/Lewis/Bowker get a real sample size worth of PT….
I mean, it’s not like we’re making the playoffs either way….
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Sabean is going to get 2 year extensions for the rest of our lives. We just need to deal with that realization.
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If I deal with that realization and the realization that Cohan is never going to sell the Warriors….well, for my own health, I’m not going to acknowledge those things.
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
That made me laugh.
Good enough for a new sig.
xanthan: "Sabean is going to get 2 year extensions for the rest of our lives. We just need to deal with that realization."
Missing Barry: "If I deal with that realization and the realization that Cohan is never going to sell the Warriors….well, for my own health, I’m not going to acknowledge those things."
Looking at the roster
I think there is a really good chance that the Giants have a significant number of injuries at multiple positions. The question is whether Bochy will sit them down if the injured players can still walk.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
is that??
your dog’s name, or do you have her chained up in the basement?
Either way, you need help.
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Just bring out the gimp already.
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I just finished watching that!
I sort of wish Sam L. Jackson would strike Rowand with “…fury and great vengeance”
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by victor frankenstein on Feb 25, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Mildly optimistic
AB: 513
.277/.345/.470
17 HR
22 sb/12 cs
-1 UZR
Still plenty of throws end up comically off target.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
AB: ~500
AVG: .262
OBP: .324
SLG: .430
HR: 20
I predict a mild uptick from last season, but basically right on par with what he is. For whatever crazy reason, I think he’s going to hit 20 dingerz. So he’ll look useful enough, though not worth the money,but will suffer a decline in productivity next year.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
This is as optimistic as I can be
AB: 588
AVG: .278
OBP: .330
SLG: .430
HR: 15
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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I'm pretty optimistic.
BA: .287
OBP: .348
SLG: .464
HR: 18
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 25, 2010 11:27 AM PST reply actions
Mondo-accurate projection
April 1 – June 15
AB 253
AVG .319
OBP .390
SLG .556
HR 15
June 15 – July 10
DL – “took a nasty shit”
July 10-October 1
AB 300
AVG .243
OBP .298
SLG .340
HR 4
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
Meh, lots of meh
AB: 463
AVG: .263
OBP: .324
SLG: .409
HR: 12
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Feb 25, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions
My prediction:
Aaron Rowand will suck
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 25, 2010 11:34 AM PST reply actions
OT - MLBN spring training broadcasts
All times ET, live games in bold:
Tuesday, March 16
5:00: San Francisco Giants at Cleveland Indians
Saturday, March 20
5:00: Cincinnati Reds at San Francisco Giants
Thursday, March 25
10:00: Oakland Athletics at San Francisco Giants
Saturday, March 27
5:00: San Francisco Giants at Los Angeles Angels
Thursday, April 1
10:00: Oakland Athletics at San Francisco Giants
Friday, April 2
10:00: Oakland Athletics at San Francisco Giants
Sunday, April 4
3:00: Seattle Mariners at San Francisco Giants
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Errant Throwin'!
AB: 545
AVG: .291
OBP: .356
SLG: .456
HR: 18
Best year as a Giant, plays a decent center field, stays in leadoff spot all year, Giants win World Series, etc.
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
AB: 218
AVG: .226
OBP: 274
SLG: 308
HR: 6
by positiveuphemism on Feb 25, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions
This probably results in either a VROOOM centerfield platoon, or trading Thomas Neal for something like Willy Taveras.
/sobs
The third alternative is that Rowand would play that badly but still start.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m inclined to ban you for even suggesting that.
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
I just have a feeling Rowand is going to be hurt and do very little before they shelve him. Seems like it is his turn.
by positiveuphemism on Feb 25, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
PLATOOVROOOOM
thats what I’m rootin for.
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
by foothillsfan on Feb 26, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
another year of decline
AB: 575
AVG: .255
OBP: .310
SLG: .400
HR: 12
UZR: Between 0 and -1.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Sorry i dropped the ball on the parasitic worms
The HCG bottles look eerily similar to the bottle ’o worms.
As to Rowand…
AB: 450
AVG: .265
OBP: .305
SLG: .395
HR: 11
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 11:57 AM PST reply actions
also
Pecota seems pretty optimistic on Rowand. Not that their line for him is actually that great, but it’s better in every category than he has been for the last two years in a row.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
There’s some evidence that Pecota kinda sucks, so take it with a grain of salt….
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
ooh hey!
In last year’s projection thread, I came within 1 point of getting his exact OPS:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/3/17/801535/community-projection-aaron#13154762
I overestimated his OBP and underestimated his SLG by about 10 points each, though. 4 short on HRs.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
AB: 488
AVG: .279
OBP: .336
SLG: .459
HR: 70
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by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions
Bullish because he shares my name
Or something like that
PA: 550
AVG: .270
OBP: .333
SLG: .450
HR: 18
UZR in CF: ~0
Frustration Above Average Giant: +999.98182737
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Rownads will take his level of suck to a new low this season
AB: 455
AVG: .241
OBP: .298
SLG: .403
HR: 9
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions
Do you have ANY optimistic projections?
Not that I blame you, mind you.
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I do, but Grant hasn't posted their projection thread yet
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
LARS THE GIANTS HATER
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Tim Lincecum
ERA+: 500. Rainbow power!
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
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Also
This is kinda awesome: http://www.hostesscakes.com/recipes/show/11/
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This is even better! http://wanderingchopsticks.blogspot.com/2008/08/fruit-shi-ie-dessert-sushi.html
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I think this is the year the center field wall finally defeats him.
AB: 250
AVG: .275
OBP: .325
SLG: .415
HR: 6
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
AB: 450
AVG: .260
OBP: 320
SLG: .400
HR: 8
No-hitter saving catches: 0
He’s streakier than Pedro Feliz, though he might in fact be Pedro Feliz. He’ll start the year somewhat slow, go on a tear for the middle third, than put up Bocockian stats toward the end of the season.
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Also, it would be totally awesome if they replaced the CF fences with a 10 ft ball pit moat!
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by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions
One broken keyboard and two broken TV remotes.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 25, 2010 12:35 PM PST reply actions
/throws remote a foot off the plate
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Squat-stanced comet FTW
I think it’s clear that he’s due for a monster year. It’s just science. Astronomy to be exact.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions
AB: 400
AVG: .272
OBP: .322
SLG: .432
HR: 11
The year that he begins to decline precipitously: Yes
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Maybe you want to think of Rowand as some sort of squat-stanced comet, making a thunderous appearance with an astronomical consistency
That’ll clog your toilet.
So I’m thinking that Rowand will simply continue his pattern of being an acceptable, but highly annoying, player. I still can’t conceive of why he throws to the wrong base every freakin’ time.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 25, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
We could probably save time by just doing an over/under of how many sliders two feet off the plate and in the dirt Rowand swings at for strike three
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by Prussian Creole on Feb 25, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions
OT: I’d just like to say something, if i’m acting out of character here, by getting too defensive, i’m going through something now with school that is just completely uncalled for… Some of you know what’s up, i’m being kicked out of school for something out of my control, i’m now writing my appeal, so i’m crossing my fingers, thanks guys.
Dude, what!?!
I got in trouble for on campus underage drinking, threatened with expulsion, but threw a teacher under the bus! (He supplied the booze)
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Wow… yea, i also got in trouble for drinking underage on campus, so that’s a code 1 right there, and now this with what just happened, it’s a federal law, and they’re basically taking it seriously and kicking me out… so i’ve written about 3 pages so far for my appeal
Seriously, if the problem is something as simple and easy to substantiate as your dad signing your financial aid applications with your mom’s electronic PIN, I really do think that it would be pretty fucking ridiculous if things didn’t work out in your favor.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed, i mean i understand what they’re getting at, but kicking me out of school for something my dad kinda fucked up on? Get real, this is a student’s education at stake here, and honestly what can you do in life without a college degree? Seriously, i didn’t even look at the papers at all when it was forged, i had no idea what was going on
Well, the main point for me is that it should be pretty easy to prove that your dad wasn’t signing with her PIN for the sake of getting you extra funds. If it seems like you were trying to get more out of the system than you should, then that’s a problem. But it really seems cut and dry. I assume that he reported everything else accurately, and if I remember correctly there is a section on the application that asks for the parents marital status (of which widower is an option). It should be very cut and dry, and very easy to show that it was an honest, easily correctable error.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
It will probably be even easier if your dad kept a printout of the application for his own personal records, by the way. Have you checked to see if he has?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yea for sure, i think he does have a copy of it, and basically mom did it before her death, but then after she passed dad assumed he had to keep the same name for the borrower, so he didn’t know what to do, he screwed up… And i missed my hearings because i get so much spam mail and shit from Miami, so i i just have to say that in the appeal and i should be good
Seriously? I is that the issue?
Also, I often find if you can somehow make it so that the institution is liable for the situation, you’ll be a lot better off. But that is probably bad advice.
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by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Pika was running a meth lab out of his dorm.
(Good luck, hope you don’t get kicked out!)
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Making meth? I don't know if we can hang out anymore...
No, that really sucks, dude. And in your last semester, too? Lame. Good luck and I hope things get worked out.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You know who taught him how to make it?
His meth teacher
/rimshot
Good luck pika
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Good luck.
The education system makes a ton of mistakes… Why they tend to error in favor of denying someone an education is a continual confusion.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hey Pika, I hope this works out for you. I think it should, and in a sane universe it would, but you never know, so good luck.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
A tad optimistic
.275/.340/.415
10 SB’s
Slightly below average defense in CF
5 Errant Throws
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
From Schulman...Looks like Cain is in the best shape of his life!
Maybe better, IMO. RT @timsnelling: @hankschulman Is Cain in the same great shape he reported to spring training in last year?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
They said he weighed 250ish on MLB Network. That cannot be right,
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Also Harold Reynolds was saying he would keep Neftali Felez in bullpen as a closer.
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
lol Harold Reynolds
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Best shape of my life, fangraphs edition
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-good-shapers
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/best-shape-of-my-life-a-retrospective
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Cain isn't Fatt Cain
Brady Penny is Fatt Cain
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
this is why
no matter how sad and pathetic the Giants are this year, this site will be worth reading:
Maybe you want to think of Rowand as some sort of squat-stanced comet, making a thunderous appearance with an astronomical consistency. Maybe you want to think of Rowand as some sort of wall-kissing cicada, lying dormant until it’s time to spring forth and devour everything in its path. Maybe you’re convinced that the every three years thing is a real pattern. I mean, who would bet against him?
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
OT
For those who listen to ESPN’s Baseball Today podcast, where do you think Bud Selig hid Pascarelli’s body?
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Santa Clara?
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
(not)Great Scott(Aaron)!
It gets ugly, like his facial hair:
PA: 450 (runz into wallz)
AVG: .260
OBP: .305 (walk rate continues to decline)
SLG: .405 (like the freeway!)
HR: 15
wOBA: .320
UZR: +5 (plays pretty good D this year)
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions
OT
Check out this stupid fucking bullshit:
CALIFORNIA IS NOT FUCKING PURPLE ROW, MOTHERFUCKERS.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
That's fucking stupid.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
wow, even as a person that tries hard to watch his language, this is so ridiculous. our state has no money, people are getting laid off left and right, farmers are being denied water because of a fish’s livelihood, and a good use of their time is making a bill to stop cussing?
i need to get out of this state.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Did you have bring up the Delta smelt?
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
it smelt like a good time to bring it up, sorry.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
I was waiting for a smelt joke.
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
He who smelt it dealt it.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah, that’s the one…
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Note: I knew it was coming and it still made me laugh.
Yes, TWSS
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Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 25, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
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Holy flaming horseshit! How can fuckers be expected to express their point of bastard without using a few shit words?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
haha
that sounded like some kind of terrible russian-to-english translator.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Stuff a bastard in it, you puke!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Feb 25, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That said, I’m in favor of all translators that replace ‘someone’ or ‘people’ with ‘fuckers’. I think Monty Python had a skit about that…
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I don’t swear, and I think that’s stupid. I admire what that kid is trying to aim for, but he’s going about it the wrong way.
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Shit that's Fuck
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Hatch, now 16, said he sees a link between cussing and drug use, bullying and other harmful behavior.
It’s always a good thing when the legislative process is inspired by anecdotes from a 16 year-old.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.
On the other hand, that DOES explain why roving gangs of Yiddish-speakers are terrorizing our streets.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Sure does.
Wait, what?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Lotsa cursing in Yiddish.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Thansk for clearing that up, ya schmuck.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That’s it, I’m going to go bully some one and use drugs!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oy gevalt!
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Apparently a dumb 16-year-old can get the state of CA to think cussing leads to drug dealing, but the whole lot of us can’t get a piddling GM to stop making dumb decisions.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Well… cussing work does lead to drinking, which could theoretically lead to drugs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
…and signing monster contracts.
OMG THIS IS THE ANSWER
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 25, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
This is just fucking moronic. It’s bad enough that they’re trying control speech, but to start making these kinds of connections is just irresponsible. His other quote was: “We need to stop tearing people down and uplift them instead”. Okay. Sure. And how will banning mainstream profanity accomplish that? It’s just the same old political correctness which assumes that harmful words are the same as harmful intentions. Does anyone actually think that racism has disappeared in this country because white people don’t use the N-word? No, of course not. It’s the same principle at work and it makes equally little sense here. Let me fucking cuss so I can vent my frustration and be done with it!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Well, I am in favor of people not using racial slurs, because that’s an asshole thing to do.
But do I think not using them eliminates racism? No. Do I want them to be legislated against? No.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Exactly
It’s common sense to avoid offensive language. It also doesn’t solve any problems and this kid (along with the legislature) seems to think that eliminating profanity will curb bullying or something to that effect.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You know one thing that could lead to ‘drug use, bullying and other harmful behavior’? Pent up emotions specifically anger. What’s a better way to deal with anger? Cussing.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
This will only force me to “cuss” more to compensate.
What is this “bad language” anyway?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
let's get started
fuck shit cunt dick cock sabean asshole
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
naw
bad language is if you’d said “theirs some bad language”
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
SHIT PISS FUCK CUNT COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER TITS
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Thanks to roger
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My son says “Oooooooh, Daddy said a bad word” every time I say something offensive. The other day I specifically alter my language (as I normally try to do when I’m around him) and said ‘darn’ instead of ‘GOD DAMMIT MOTHERF**KING SH!T’. He still called me on ‘Darn’. He says it’s a bad word in his class (3rd grade). What the fuck?
Also, I picked up a note for another student on accident once (same first name as my son). The kid got in trouble when they got an assignment & he said ‘This sucks balls’. I lol’ed.
So add ‘darn’ and ‘sucks balls’ to the list.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Revenue Stream
Anything you can attach a fine to will be considered by our state government.
FUCKERS!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
I bet that kid is the most popular kid at his school.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
hint for the kid:
cussing doesn’t cause bullying, starting anti-cussing clubs in high school does.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I love the whole… “like you were at your grandmother’s house” bullshit… my gramma would use words that’d make a sailor blush.
And then there’s the whole correlation / causation thing… See this is what happens when teachers have to teach to the test…what we call “regurgitation education” … which leaves little time for things like logic or reasoning or anything…
And then there’s the whole legislating “morality” thing. Oy.
I’ve cursed at my grandmother’s house many, many, many times.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
So have I!
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Why are you cursing at jcb9's grandmother's house!?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Stealing her prunes.
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speaking of prunes
My grandma wasn’t a potty mouth. I think the worst thing I ever heard her say was ‘Oh, prune juice’ instead of ‘bullshit’.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 25, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
If she’s Cantonese, there’s a good chance that she did.
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My grandmother – and I’m still not comfortable admitting this – tells graphic sex jokes. All the time.
And I’m with you, Merope, this kind of legislation points to all kinds of breakdowns in rational thought and in our education system.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I don't normally post potty words
but fuck the Legislature. And da Governator, if he signs it.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 25, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
they can’t actually enforce this law, can they? Haven’t they heard of something called free speech? What the actual fuck are they talking about? Like if I was walking down the street listening to the Giants’ game on KNBR in SF and Rowand overthrows the cutoff man for the 3rd time (I know it’s the first week in march, but work with me), and I yell out “FUCK!” near a cop, I could get a ticket?
Am I the only one who thinks there’s no fucking way this law is constitutional?
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Thanks to roger
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BTW
“We’re having fun with it,” the lawmaker said
Well good for you, fuckstain. Your state is in the shitter and hemorrhaging money, but at least you’re “having fun” making up some fucking bullshit law. This guy should be thrown out of office. And I don’t even live there or give a shit about politics.
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Thanks to roger
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http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/crimesider/entry5760527.shtml
I really couldn’t believe it.
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 26, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
lol
wow. This country is ridiculous. He doesn’t deserve the money obviously, but there’s no way he should have been cited for that
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Another hilarious and awesome post, Grant.
He hacks, he flails, he occasionally hits one 415 feet, and he does okay in center.
Again, the rhythm here reminds me of Ghostbusters:
She’s not my girlfriend. I find her interesting because she’s a client and because she sleeps above her covers… four feet above her covers. She barks, she drools, she claws!
And Wall-Kissing Cicada needs to be on a t-shirt.
I would buy this book
I was so, so close to having something to put on the dust jacket of the hardbound version of The McCovey Chronicles Companion.
if it was free.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
something I just noticed
The 4 guys we have on this year’s BA Top 100 Prospects list is the most we’ve had since 2003, when we had 5.
Just don’t ask who those 5 guys were.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Isn't it good to be a Giants fan?
5. Jesse Foppert, rhp, Giants
50. Jerome Williams, rhp, Giants
64. Kurt Ainsworth, rhp, Giants
82. Todd Linden, of, Giants
83. Francisco Liriano, lhp, Giants
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
shit
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Giants on the top 100 list
2009:
#9: Madison Bumgarner
#14: Buster Posey
#44: Angel Villalona
#45: Tim Alderson
2008:
#33: Angel Villalona
#84: Tim Alderson
2007:
#11: Tim Lincecum
#59: Jonathan Sanchez
2006:
#10: Matt Cain
#65: Marcus Sanders
2005:
#13: Matt Cain
#58: Merkin Valdez
#78: Fred Lewis
2004:
#40: Merkin Valdez
#91: Matt Cain
2003:
#5: Jesse Foppert
#50: Jerome Williams
#64: Kurt Ainsworth
#82: Todd Linden
#83: Francisco Liriano
2002:
#19: Jerome Williams
#29: Boof Bonser
#58: Kurt Ainsworth
#83: Tony Torcato
2001:
#19: Jerome Williams
#30: Kurt Ainsworth
#60: Tony Toracto
#85: Lance Niekro
2000:
#58: Kurt Ainsworth
1999:
#44: Jason Grilli
1998:
#54: Jason Grilli
1997:
#45: Joe Fontenot
#92: Dante Powell
1996:
#72: Shawn Estes
#96: Joe Fontenot
1995:
#73: J.R. Phillips
#90: Dante Powell
1994:
#22: Salomon Torres
#83: J.R. Phillips
1993:
#33: Calvin Murray
#50: Kevin Rogers
#65: Joe Rosselli
#83: Steve Hosey
1992:
#6: Royce Clayton
#30: Salomon Torres
#61: Steve Hosey
#95: Derek Reid
1991:
#23: Royce Clayton
#52: Steve Decker
#77: Johnny Ard
#83: Steve Hosey
#89: Kevin Rogers
1990:
#52: Steve Hosey
#85: Eric Gunderson
Man, in the 90s our system was made of fail.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Also, I’m not sure what they were smoking ranking Niekro and Torcato so high. Neither was ever much good even in the minors.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
But Niekro’s uncle is a HOFer!
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I believed in Lance Niekro.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Foppert
Highest ranked Giants prospect ever
/sobs
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
an interesting aside, though
The ten highest-ranked Giants prospects ever:
1) Jesse Foppert: #5, 2003
2) Royce Clayton: #6, 1992
3) Buster Posey: #7, 2010
4) Madison Bumgarner: #9, 2009
5) Matt Cain: #10, 2006
6) Tim Lincecum: #11, 2007
7) Matt Cain: #13, 2005
8) Buster Posey: #14, 2009
8) Madison Bumgarner: #14, 2010
10) Jerome Williams: #19, 2001-2002
That’s not such a bad list!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Good news/bad news, depending on how you want to look at it – that list (which spans 20 seasons) is 70% Cain, Lincecum, Bumgarner and Posey.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Our system was absolute shit for much of the 90s, so.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah, I don’t even think we can take 100% credit for all the 90s top prospects. For example, Shawn Estes was drafted by the Mariners.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Why are you so mean?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, there are several bright spots there!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
But there are also over 50 total spots there.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
the first top 100 list is riddled with guys who became Giants down the line
17) Marquis Grissom
18) Mike Stanton
24) Mark Lewis
26) Wilson Alvarez
30) Tom Goodwin
37) Moises Alou
49) Glenallen HIll
53) Deion Sanders
70) Rick Wilkins
71) Darren Lewis
74) Dan Peltier
90 Jeff Juden
99) Jose Vizcaino
New theory: Bob Quinn and Brian Sabean bought the one issue of Baseball America that list was published in, and it served as their shopping list for the next decade or so.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Johnny Ard, too
He later became a farmhand for us, but never made it to the majors.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
CALL THE POLICE
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Now Schilling is spreading Catsup on his sock.
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Oh no!
The Giants Nate Schierholtz got some outfield pointers from Aaron Rowand Wednesday February 24, 2010.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
“Now Nate, remember to absolutely hurl the ball in the direction of home plate whenever you field. Doesn’t really matter if it gets there or not. Just do it.”
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Actually Scott, I’m pretty sure that that is not a grenade
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 25, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
“I like to hold the ball, get a sense of what it feels like to make contact with one. Now, sometimes I like to slather ketchup all over m’ball and like it off. It’s fun late at night when I’m bored and still wound up after a game and I — hey, are you paying attention?” “Oh, sorry. I was watching my life pass me by right behind your back.” “Where? Lemme crash into it!”
“And this is how you grip the baseball when you are going to miss the cutoff man and allow a runner into scoring position on a single.”
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 25, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Voice-over, Nate:
“As he tried to explain how the curveball grip helps hit the cut-off man, I did my best to not spew the milk I had just drank right into his face. This guy won a Gold Glove? This fucking guy? It was right then that I knew that God demanded justice, that Aaron Rowand must die. It was then that I knew I would have to join the CIA and become a ninja. It was the only way.”
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Nate: You want me to stick that where?!
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Nate: “Oh damn, this ball is gonna hit me soon so I better swing at it.”
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Feb 25, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
“I try, Nate. I really do try to hit the cut-off man. But look at my little fingers! The ball gets slippery and I have no grip. I don’t know where it’s going. I’ve been working on it though, Nate. I’ve been working out with Dr. Finger Cuffs since October. You probably can’t tell, Nate, but they are a millimeter longer than they were in September. Lean, too. My fingers are in the best shape of their lives.”
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Aaron Rowand has been working on his slider to the cutoff man. Seen here, he’s politely asking Nate Schierholtz to stop swinging at it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 25, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yuk.
I’m not hopeful at all.
AB: 450
AVG: .275
OBP: .301
SLG: .396
HR: 8
SB: 7
Playing time reduced for poor play toward the end of the season. Speculation about how long before Giants eat his contract begins in July.
A phoenix is a mythical bird with a colorful plumage and a tail of gold and scarlet (or purple, blue, and green according to some legends). It has a 500 to 1,000 year life-cycle, near the end of which it builds itself a nest of twigs that then ignites; both nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, young phoenix or phoenix egg arises, reborn anew to live again. The new phoenix is destined to live as long as its old self. In some stories, the new phoenix embalms the ashes of its old self in an egg made of myrrh and deposits it in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis (sun city in Greek). It is said that the bird’s cry is that of a beautiful song. In very few stories they are able to change into humans.
I would like to see Rowand burst into flames during a diving catch.
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I would like to hire you to create that image.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
FOOOOOOSH!!
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by Natto on Feb 25, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Ah, the internet. You have served me well.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
1. Not enough smoke
2. Not enough napalm
3. Not enough charred flesh
But for 10 minutes notice? Priceless
by E Ticket on Feb 25, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for this
I’ve come back to look at this at least 5 times and keep chuckling.
I’d make it my desktop but for fear of making a Dodger fan happy.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
They’re Daleks?!
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To that end
I could see this same fiery effect on Russel Martin, plummeting to earth like a meteor, after Eugenio upended him that one glorious time.
That would help sustain the pissededness.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Get to work.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 28, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I have deliberated on this for some time. And although I was going to withhold my debut until later this post has spurred me into action.
DFAAurilllia is dead. In 24 hours he will be reborn. Stronger and more powerful.
Behold! DFARowand!
Shouldn’t that be Molina?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Oh, wait.
Now I get it.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OT - I suck at old-school baseball terms
http://player.theplatform.com/ps/player/pds/Dggq5Oq2RW?pid=k5762epznr2iFpUzuv_PKIqe7ifHsY3e
I only got gopher and fireman. :(
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
LOL Bengie “Baltimore Chop” …..uh, is that a kind of porkchop.
by E Ticket on Feb 25, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Let's bring back steroids
I feel like Sabes is constructing a team that would have thrived in the mid 90s. All these veterans who, with the help of PEDs, could jack themselves up and deliver successful seasons at the plate well into their mid to late 30’s. I’m not very excited about Rowand, Huff, Sanchez, or Molina this year…but if got a secret insider tip telling me all the guys spent the entire off-season perfecting their roid cycle, I think the Giants would be in business this year.
Steroids worked for Alex Sanchez!
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If muelens cannot get to him
AB 512 BA 259, OBP 319, Slug 407 Hrs 14 OPS 726
with a first half projecting much better than these numbers, but with a second half settling him in with these numbers. Its hard to be good for an entire season, when you squat every AB.
I am optimistic this year about his shapliness
PA: 899
AVG: .143
OBP: .157
SLG: .188
HR: 1
UZR in CF: -15
over under on balls to wrong base: 38
assists 3
faceplants: 89
fenceplants 99
feceplants (see plate appearances)
by E Ticket on Feb 25, 2010 5:36 PM PST reply actions
This Seems Optimistic
AB: 408
R: 48
H: 99
2B: 21
3B: 1
HR: 11
RBI: 41
AVG. .243
BB: 26
HBP: 11
SF: 4
OBP: .303
SLG: .380
OPS: .683
SB: 3
CS: 4
Great Olney quote
In talking about Jesus Montero, the Yankees’ “catching” prospect:
“Montero has Molina-like speed, so playing the outfield is probably not an option.”
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
He has Zito like throwing action, so pitching is out too.
by E Ticket on Feb 25, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
hahahaha
keithlaw Oh, THAT’ll fix the offense RT @extrabaggs Hoping to cut down on failed sacrifice attempts, Giants make bunt practice a priority…
keithlaw Sabean: Bruce, we don’t score enough runs. What can we do? Bochy: We should make more outs. Sabean: GENIUS!
FREE BUSTER POSEY
I’m starting to look at Klaw like that casual acquaintance who makes fun of your family. Which is to say that while I complain about the FO and bellyache about the offense, I don’t think it’s all that cool when “outsiders” take pot shots at the Giants. Not that it’s undeserved, but it still pisses me off.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Meh
makes me laugh. Gives me catharsis to know that there is someone out there in the “MSM” who knows how stupid they are, rather than coming up with lame excuses as to why what they’re doing is acceptable.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Yeah, but at some point, enough is enough. The Giants aren’t the biggest train wrecks in the baseball world. IDK, I guess I’ve crossed a line where Law’s one-liners used to be funny and now they’re kinda annoying.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
It's not like the giants are the only ones he picks on, though
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by bondslegend on Feb 26, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
No. But I don’t root for any of the other teams.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Thats a pretty selfish way to view the world
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Feb 26, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Whats more annoying is the way Sabean and Bochy run things. If you don’t want them ridiculed, then have them stip doing ridiculous things. If those bozos made an acceptable number of mistakes for somebody at that level, then the assertion that it is overkill would be correct. These guys are public figures and they are great targets for lampooning because they think, speak, and do stupid things entirely worthy of ridicule. All the time. Year in and year out. Thats why this team hasn’t been to the playoffs since 2003
by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I’m in this line. The current management team is a joke. I don’t see why they shouldn’t be treated as such.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
As I said, the ridicule they’re getting isn’t undeserved. I know that. I do my fair share of lampooning Sabean and Bochy on a daily basis. Feeling like your team is being held in hostage by a brain trust of idiots isn’t just annoying, it’s infuriating and provides more insight into “going postal”-level rage than is probably healthy for anyone.
All I’m saying is for me personally, Klaw’s quips have lost their entertainment value. That’s not to say that he’s not right or he’s not a brilliant analyst or other people shouldn’t find them funny…it just means that I get defensive (maybe irrationally so) when he makes certain comments. That’s really all I was trying to get across.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Avg. - .280
OBP- .317
Hrs – 17
Strikeouts on sliders – a whole fucking lot
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 25, 2010 10:00 PM PST reply actions
if Rowand was Gary Mathews Jr...
….he’d be gone by now, and that would be a good thing.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
If the Giants had been all in on trying to win
rather than trying to compete, Zito Rowand Roberts Renteria and Sanchez would never have been here in the first place. Bonds would have played in 2008 and possibly 2009, and the roster would probably include one and possibly two monster bats to surround Bonds and carry on after his departure.
Which also implies that neither Sabean nor Bochy would still be here.
by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2010 6:39 AM PST up reply actions
He almost could have been!
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450 ABs
.253/.305/.397
9 HRs
A lengthy DL stint after attempting something like this, hopefully.
And maybe Schierholtz shifts to center with Bowker playing in right? Please?
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
Well, I guess I won’t share the experiences I have had with a ATV, wakeboard, rope and irrigation ditch, or a Jeep, rope, saddle and spare tire in the snow of Lassen!
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 26, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Whenever I think I'm done laughing at that I scroll back to it and prove myself wrong.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 28, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
oh my god
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Thanks to roger
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Speaking of Bowker
That actually looks like part of Bowker’s off-season training regimen.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
slightly less shitty
AB: 505
AVG: .276
OBP: .332
SLG: .430
HR: 16
by microwave donut on Feb 26, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions
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Lincecum says Wait, what?
OSH Baseball Tip: Your hair? It's dumb.
Yes
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gamitude
AB: 465
AVG: .289
OBP: .342
SLG: .426
HR: 10
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
this is actually optimistic
because if Rowand is bad enough or visibly injured, maybe Bowker or Lewis or my guy Velez get more atbats and produce.
AB 240
AVG 240
OBP 275
SLG 330
HR 9
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
he'll improve
AB 550
AVG .280
OBP .340
SLG .445
HR 14
not much of an improvement, really
You just have him hitting more singles. In your projection, his ISO and HRs are down and his walk rate is almost identical.
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