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It's easy to let the optimism train run out of control. Especially once spring training starts, and the enthusiasm stifled by the offseason boils over. Though I want every Giant to succeed, I know what an unlikely reality that is.

So, in lieu of sweeping optimism, here are a few things I would like to see come out of spring training this year. These, I believe are not unrealistic expectations. While Sabean appears to have forgotten how to build a team without an offensive cornerstone, and Bochy appears complacent, I think they genuinely want the team to win and have the savvy to make the right choices at least some of the time.

Here are four realistic, optimistic hopes for spring training.

Number 1: Bowker and Freddy land the reserve outfield spots over Torres and Velez.

I can understand why Velez saw so much playing time at the end of last year. He started out hitting when the team was desperate for some offensive momentum. Now that a new season begins and the players showcase their potential, I should think that Bowker and Lewis can exhibit the much larger potential they possess over the T&V vroomsquad. I hope the former two can find success in spring and make the team for opening day.

Number 2: Bruce Bochy learns to defer to Hensley Muelens. 

Perhaps this is the beat writer hype swimming in my head, but I think Bam Bam has the capability of reaching and inspiring many of the hitters on this team, like RJ did with the pitchers last year. If he does learn the hitters better than Bochy can, I hope that Bochy realizes this and swallows his managerial pride enough so that if Muelens suggests a certain player be in the lineup on a certain day, Bochy listens.

Number 3: Sanchez pitches with power, Zito with endurance.

This year I think Dirty can crack 200 Ks and Zito can crack 200IP. As long as Zito pitches deep into games and Sanchez shuts batters down for a few innings, I'll be happy. No one expects Zito to be lights out, but Sanchez, on the other hand, only seems to do well when he is. With such a strong bullpen, I doubt it would be too taxing to have them pick up the second half of Sanchez's games, provided Zito pitches 6+ innings consistently. I hope Zito finds the focus in spring to be unfazed by getting hit, and Sanchez gets comfortable leaving games early.

Number 4: The vets can find grace in less prominent roles.

The amount of declining veterans projected into the opening day lineup (2/3rds of it) is unnerving. That's a decent formula for a team built around an offensive legend, but not for one trying to grow its own offense. It was frustrating last year to watch aging ballplayers start the game and underperform and then, when the game was on the line, see the youth, badly in need of playing time, try to be heroes. This year I hope that the veterans, should it be shown they aren't outperforming their younger teammates in ST, can be relegated to utility roles. That's why I think DeRosa and Uribe were the best signings of the offseason. I hope that the unproven youth (read: Bowker, Schierholtz, Lewis, Posey)  establish themselves in spring as the preferred starters, and that the vets thrive in pressure situations.

Should these hopes assert themselves in spring, I think the season can get off to a good start. I'd be interested to know any other ST hopes you all have, or things you believe the organization should/shouldn't do to field the best lineup they can.

 

Caveat: I know there's a science to baseball, but I hardly understand it. It's the character of the player that captures me, which is why I like then number of vets on the team. I think that veteran influence, while not quantifiable, is significant. I also think it is equally significant when offered from the bench as from on the field. This is a team of young talent and old teachers, and the teachers need not give clinics every day.

 

I love the giants and want them to succeed against all else. Just because the odds are daunting doesn't mean I won't give up on the longshot chance. Crazier things have happened in this game.

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With both Sanchez and Ishikawa likely to miss the start of the season its conceivable that both Lewis and Bowker could make the opening day roster even if Torres and Velez “win” the backup OF jobs. DeRosa could move to 2B and Bowker could fill the backup 1B role. I’m (somewhat realistically) hoping for an opening day lineup of Lewis LF, DeRosa 2B, Sandoval 3B, Huff 1B, Molina C, Schierholtz RF, Rowand CF, Renteria SS with Whiteside, Uribe, Velez, Bowker and Torres on the bench.

Thing A

by sam23 on Feb 24, 2010 2:26 AM PST reply actions  

You are hoping Molina is C?

Wow.

by positiveuphemism on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s reasonable to hope that Molina is only a C cup, although it’s unrealistic.

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on Feb 24, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

realistic

Thing A

by sam23 on Feb 24, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

With DeRosa Rowand Schierholtz Bowker and Lewis, I doubt we’ll have much use for Velez AND Torres. I’d rather see 3 catchers on the team than 7 outfielders.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My two biggest hopes
  • Renteria bounces back and plays to his projections
  • J. Sanchez puts it all together

If those two things happen, I see this team competing for the NL west title.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 24, 2010 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

u should probably rename that too

my two biggest DREAMS. im not mocking you becuase i hope for the same thing, but in reality it will probably not happen. i think sanchez will have a better shot at it than rentaria tho

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Feb 24, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be satisfied with Renteria’s 2008 at this point. His projections are inflated by his flukey 2007. If he slugs close to .400 and gets on-base above .320, I will be well pleased.

Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.

by jasomack on Feb 24, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Given that Fsanch, DeRosa and Uribe all probably have a bigger upside than Renteria, I think the most optimistic thing to hope is that he loses his starting job.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Uribe vs. Renteria

You might have an argument that Uribe is likely to outperform Renteria this season, but if you look at their career numbers, I’d argue that Renteria has the higher upside.

I think Uribe’s 2009 was flukier than Renteria’s 2007.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 25, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Renteria’s BABIP in 2007 was .375. That’s pretty darn fluky and way way higher than his career norms.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 25, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Well it’s this season I’m talking about. Between DeRosa, Sanchez, Huff, Rowand, Uribe, Renteria (Good God), at least two of them need to go down to get younger guys a decent chance to play. And let’s hope it ain’t god. Personally, I’d like to see Huff and Rent spend more time on the DL than anywhere else.

by fantastical on Feb 25, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me

If you wish for a guy to get hurt, you run the risk of a guy who’s producing going down. If Renteria bounces back and is putting up a 100 OPS+, it would suck if he got hurt, regardless of who replaces him at SS.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 26, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but on the other hand, if he doesn’t get hurt, you know he’s going to play even if he sucks because of his veteran gamer intangibles….and the chance of him sucking is a lot worse than of him producing in any large amount…..

Just to throw an opinion out there, I don’t want Huff to get hurt, actually, I’d rather see him healthy and absolutely suck to the point he gets cut. :)

by Missing Barry on Feb 26, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Rent has a shorter leash this year

He’s in the final year of his deal and Uribe proved himself a capabale alternative.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 26, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha, true, but Uribe might be bad, too (and it’s not likely he’ll be good, even if he isn’t “bad”, per se), and there’s a good chance Sanchez/Renteria will combine to miss a bunch of games, meaning Uribe isn’t available to replace the other….

by Missing Barry on Feb 26, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

All the more reason to root that Renteria stays healthy

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 26, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Bochy will be forced to play Frandsen!

/wakes up from dream

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 26, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that wish is based on the idea that they won’t produce. If Renteria is having a career year, I hope he plays every day. But I don’t think he’s going to have a career year. I’d be surprised if he even had an average one.

But I’m open to surprises.

by fantastical on Feb 26, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If does have a career year, you know the Giants will pick up the option or decline the option and re-sign him to 2 more years.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 26, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

True, Goof, but it’s not too bleedin’ likely. Rent’s only put up a 100 OPS+ 5 times in 14 years, and only twice in the last 6. It’s not something he did very frequently during his prime, so it seems pretty long odds to hope for him to do it in his decline.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 26, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

J. Sanchez puts it all together

This is my hope as well.

Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.

by timmeh on Feb 24, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez 1000 piece puzzle available at giants dugout store spring 2010.

by fantastical on Feb 25, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I know it would be good for the coming season, but the last thing I want to see is Zito start to recrank out 200+ IP. If his option vests (200 IP in 2013 or 400 IP in 2012-13 or 600 IP 2011-13), we are fucked. And not proper fucked.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Feb 24, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

He’ll do it just to annoy us. Mark my words!

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by xanthan on Feb 24, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t aware of that, which makes it a strange dilemma.

His option is only for one year, right? If he pitches 200+ innings the next three years and keeps his ERA around 4, I’d be ok with an extra year of Zito.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I would not, his money needs to go to locking up better pitchers on our staff.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

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by scout6 on Feb 24, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather see Zito play well for 5 more years then tank and suck for only 4.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This

The four years are sunk costs so it’s better to hope for the best.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 25, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I read sunk costs as suck costs.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 25, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Understandable.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 25, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Suck costs?

TWSS!

/can’t believe he’s sunk that low

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 27, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t the option for $20 million?

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 24, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

God I could almost like Zito if his contract weren’t such an abomination.

I change my #3 to say that Zito pitches 199 innings a year for the rest of his contract.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess technically, the Giants have the option to pay either $7 million to buyout the option, or another $11 million to have him pitch another year (fuck you Sabean and/or Magowan). So, I guess they have to decide if Zito is worth a 1/11 deal in 2014. Probably not, but maybe.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Feb 24, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, more like 1/11 deal to play or 1/7 deal to get the fuck out. Can the giants find a better player for 4 million?

by fantastical on Feb 25, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

(What you just did there to get the $4M number is exactly what marcello did to get the $11M, point being, 4 doesn’t make sense….)

by Missing Barry on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

My Hopes

1) WS Title for our young pitching
2) Another WS Title with our upcoming prospects

If one and two do not happen then 3 should automatically vest

3) a new GM and manager.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 24, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

If 1 or 2 happens, lifetime contracts for the current GM and manager.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 24, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s easy to let the optimism train run out of control.

you spelled “pessimism” wrong

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Feb 24, 2010 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

This train runs both ways.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Bowker wins an outfield spot over Schierholtz and Lewis makes the team over Torres or Velez.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 24, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

Bowker and Schierholtz will play different positions, I think. They aren’t each other’s competition. I love the idea of starting DeRosa at 2nd and Bowker at left. Let’s hope he has a great spring and either Uribe or Renteria just sucks.

That still doesn’t find a place for Lewis though…Maybe Lewis in left, Bowker at 1st, hope that Huff’s new glove gets even newer and his old bat gets even older?

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be ok with Lewis in RF

In all honesty I’d prefer Bowker at 1B to Huff

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 24, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Bowker at 1st?

Are the Giants still considering this as an option with Ishi now as the backup?

It's tragic high tide

by TheBigLeBowker on Feb 24, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it

I think they see him strictly as a LF

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 25, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless something’s changed, Bowker’s a big enough liability at first that there’s no way he should take the field except on the grass.

FU, FO

by oldjacket on Feb 24, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

At least he’s not using a new glove, mk?

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Bowker’s a big enough liability at first that there’s no way he should take the field except on the grass.

I really don’t think smoking marijuanica would help his defense at 1B

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 25, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Couldn't hurt it

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 25, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

+ A billion

Bold Proclamation: If Bowker is the everyday OF he’ll be the 2nd best power hitter on the team behind Panda

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 24, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s funny that that proclamation is bold (which it is, to the general baseball audience) because it’s a totally logical thing to assume.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 25, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Grant described the Giants-Bowker relationship the best
Bowker was fantastic in a full season of AAA with a reworked approach, but he struggled in 67 at-bats in the majors. Most teams would pay more attention to the first part of the sentence. The Giants are the Giants are the Giants.

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 26, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I refuse to give up on Bowker, and I refuse to give up on the organization’s ability to utilize its prospects. But goddamn the track record isn’t good, is it?

by fantastical on Feb 26, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not giving up on Bowker...

but I have no faith in the orgs ability to utilize its prospects

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 26, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope the Giants are watchable for most of the year, the young’uns (TJ, Neal, RafRod, etc) develop as hoped, and our core (Timmy, Cainer, Panda) avoid any injury that would affect them long term.

As for numerical hopes, a record over .500 would be nice, as would an All Star appearance for Pablo. (I’m not sure how an all star selection is numerical, but hang with me here)

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on Feb 24, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t want Bowker to win the a backup OF job over Torres or Velez because IMO he isn’t a backup OF, he’s a starting OF. I want Torres and Lewis in those gigs, considering their defensive prowess and speed, Bowker in LF, Nate in RF, and DeRosa at 2B. It doesn’t make much sense to put a defensively meh, not particularly fast, high OBP/SLG hitter in a reserve role. But then, not much makes sense on this team anymore.

by quincy0191 on Feb 24, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

All I meant by backup role was that, as it stands, DeRosa Rowand and Schierholtz are the top 3 outfielders. Every other outfielder gets the backup spots, and hopes that someone out of the top 3 doesn’t do well or moves to another position. I agree, Bowker should be starting if he’s hitting.

by fantastical on Feb 24, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Still, Bowker doesn’t make much sense as a backup OF IMO. I like my 4th and 5th OFs to be defensively-minded and fast, because they are supposed to be good pinch runners and late-inning replacements, while backup INFs are supposed to be good pinch hitters and adept defensively. Bowker, to my knowledge, is no great shakes on the basepaths or in the outfield. Really, I’d prefer Torres over Bowker as a backup OF, especially considering Bowker should be nowhere near CF.

by quincy0191 on Feb 25, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think Bowker still has an option left, so I’d rather see him hitting in Fresno than languishing on the bench in SF. He should be groomed to be a starter.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 25, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m hoping Wellemeyer pitches himself into the long relief position and someone in-house wins the 5th starter spot. I’d love to see Bowker get the start in right but I’m not disappointed that Nate gets it and hopefully banish Velez to Fresno.

I hope Sabean gets into some sort of Tiger Woods situation and resigns from the GM post by April.

It's tragic high tide

by TheBigLeBowker on Feb 24, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

I would have a lot more respect for Sabean knowing he could routinely pull that kinda tail.

Do people still say “tail?”

Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.

by jasomack on Feb 24, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, they still say "trim"

Wellemeyer scares me.
Granted, I’m no statsman but there’s some big numbers in his splits.
And they’re not height related.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 24, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

#3

I’m fine with Zito’s amount of innings staying about the same. 185-190 innings is fine, I’d prefer he came out early for Romo or Affedlt rather than getting shelled in the later innings.

Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.

by jasomack on Feb 24, 2010 3:44 PM PST reply actions  

I hope Bumgarner starts in Fresno.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 24, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 24, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My hopes

Bowker becomes an opening day starter.
Frandsen makes the opening day roster.
Wellemeyer, Joey & Steve Johnson force MadBum to Fresno until June 1.
Posey forces a Molina trade immediately after June 1.
Sabes and Bochy resign.
The Giants win the WS.

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 24, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

You’ll probably get none of them.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 24, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think right Now Madbum could be even better than Timmy.

Only finances and money could keep Madbum down, (barring injury), he is the rookie of the year, cy young, and possible MVP. So there Fernando Valenzuelo, take that, and MB, like Fernando, can hit.

by bradleybear on Feb 24, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Timmy wants some of whatever you’re smoking.

by quincy0191 on Feb 25, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

And why do you think all this?

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That's an awful lot of optimism

I’m a MadBum fan, but predicting any pitcher coming into the league will do better than Lincecum seems foolhardy at best. Even Strasberg, with all his expectations, would be doing well to match what the Enchanter has done in his short career.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 25, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow thats optimistic

I see MadBum as the Giants 4th best starter right now (better than Zito) and 3rd best for the future (slightly better than Wheeler)

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 25, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Who do you figure as #3 right now that will either leave or suck in the future?

by fantastical on Feb 25, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I see Sanchez as the future Hot & Cold #5

He’ll be great one start and replaced by Ryan Sadowski in another-Though he’ll be more consistent than in the old days. And Zito will become a MR.

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 26, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Who will run “Strikeouts For Troops” if he can’t think straight?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 27, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

My outfield wishes

Lewis LF
Nate CF
Bowker RF

Torres 4th OF
Neal up by July as 5th OF

Rowand and most if not all of his salary traded during Spring Training because some other teams CF goes down and they need a replacement ASAP.

Let the future begin ASAP.

The only thing worrying me about this scenario is that Vroom would be on the team and Bork will be tempted to play him.

Radical Racing

by Radical Racing on Feb 24, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

While Sabean appears to have forgotten how to build a team without an offensive cornerstone

One cannot forget what one never knew.

by E Ticket on Feb 24, 2010 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

Torres best outfielder and he can hit righty

Bowker, Schierholtz, Lewis all Lefty, and Velez cannot hit righty for beans. Torres, Rowand, and DeRosa could start vs lefties in the outfield sometimes. Bowker could be the real deal, and Schierholtz is important as right field at AT&T needs a really good fielder in rightfield. With the season starting with injuries all these guys could make the team. The questions could be Frandsen, and Burriss.

by bradleybear on Feb 24, 2010 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

I hope I don’t step in dogshit tomorrow.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Feb 24, 2010 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

But well worth it, right?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Feb 25, 2010 5:51 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a great compliment to the pastrami

Just need to remember to order the small next time

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Feb 25, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Chili Cheese?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 25, 2010 6:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Regular fries

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Feb 25, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I see you ordered the pastrami. Regular fries was a good idea then. If you’re ever in the mood for chili cheese, the steak sammich is a good complement.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 25, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Rowand, Huff, and Renteria get hurt and are out for the season (though Huff has to wait for Ishikawa to return from injury). Am I crossing the line? The hope is we see a Schierholtz/Torres CF platoon, a combination of DeRosa, Lewis and Bowker at the corners, anyone else at SS, and it makes Sabean look terrible!

But seriously, I hope Bumgarner and Posey start in AAA (and Bumgarner stays down there all year long and isn’t up until next year after Super 2 deadline at the earliest, unless he breaks out this season in AAA with a big time K rate). I hope some younger guys get a shot/win a job from Sanchez, Huff, Renteria, Rowand or DeRosa. I hope nobody important gets hurt. And I’m not sure if I hope Lewis makes the team or not – on the one hand, I want Lewis on the team, on the other hand, it might just be better for him if we cut him, and I’d like to see him succeed, even if it’s not with us.

by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

I like the way this guy thinks
I am kinda hoping they feel sorry for Castro and decide to defect to Cuba, and take Molina’s brassiere as a housewarming present.

by E Ticket on Feb 24, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the way this guy thinks.
I like the way this guy thinks

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 25, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the way this guy thinks.

I like the way this guy thinks.

by E Ticket on Feb 25, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

this guy thinks the way I like
You know, the way this guy’s cognitive processes operate is something that I really like.

by fantastical on Feb 25, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I am kinda hoping they feel sorry for Castro and decide to defect to Cuba, and take Molina’s brassiere as a housewarming present.

by E Ticket on Feb 24, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

You know, the way this guy’s cognitive processes operate is something that I really like.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 25, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather keep Torres than Lewis.

/serious
//waits backlash

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM PST reply actions  

//gets banned by jponry

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 27, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty much a defense vs offense thing, whichever you prefer. At least that’s how I see it.

by fantastical on Feb 27, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Light Tower Power!

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 28, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

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