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Community Projections: Jonathan Sanchez

In each of the community projections, I link to some of the more established projection systems. A couple of these have a list of comparable players –players with similar statistical profiles at a similar age to the players the systems are trying to project. Jonathan Sanchez’s comparisions:

PECOTA: Steve Carlton, Bill Wight, Monte Kennedy, Bud Black

ZiPS: Randy Johnson, Mark Langston, Sandy Koufax

Star-divide

I know, I know. You’re thinking, "Wow, Bill Wight!" Yep. The very same. In addition to Wight, Sanchez somehow compares to three Hall-of-Famers and a Hall-of-Quite-Gooder out of seven total comparisons. This doesn’t really mean anything – don’t put down that deposit at a Cooperstown B&B just yet – but it highlights how unique Jonathan Sanchez is. Left-handed starters who strike out a ton of batters are rare. Sometimes, their control improves and they go on to slay dragons (Carlton) or commit impressive atrocities (Koufax). Sometimes, they get hurt and fade away (Almost Everyone Else). But the ceiling…man, that ceiling.

Andrew Baggarly has a nice feature article on Sanchez today, and it covers most of what one might need to know about Sanchez. Lefty, inconsistent, flashes of brilliance, sky’s the limit. Then there’s this part:

Sanchez's stuff ranks with the elite. Last year, he generated a greater percentage of swings and misses on his pitches (19 percent) than all but two starting pitchers (Rich Harden and Javier Vazquez) in the National League. Yes, even more than Lincecum (18 percent) or Matt Cain (15 percent).

And I’ll just leave this right here.

But there’s something familiar about this projection. From last year’s projection

I don't think the breakout comes this year. But we're teased. Again. Dang it.

Oh, how we were teased at the end of last season. From the no-hitter through the rest of the season – which is also when he was put back in the rotation – Sanchez had a 3.46 ERA and 109 strikeouts in 93 innings. Now that’s an arbitrary starting point that will make you think.

Other projections for him this year:

PECOTA: 176 IP, 4.03 ERA, 78 BB, 178 K, 18 HRA
Bill James: 184 IP, 3.91 ERA, 94 BB, 196 K, 18 HRA
CHONE152 IP, 4.26 ERA, 73 BB, 157 K, 17 HRA
ZiPS: 156 IP, 4.15 ERA, 77 BB, 169 K, 17 HRA

As much as I’d like to think this is the Season of Clarification, I’ll predict more of the maddening same. Until Sanchez shows something approaching mediocre command, he’ll still have those uncomfortable 90-pitch, four-inning grindfests every other game. And his stamina is still going to be an issue.

If he wants to turn into vintage Sandy Koufax or Randy Johnson, though, I fully encourage his decision to do so.

Jonathan Sanchez

IP: 179
ERA: 4.39
K: 168
BB: 83
HRA: 15

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I don’t consider Vin Scully a Dodger. I see him as someone who just happens to work for them.

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

billy mueller /sobs/

JUST A CITY BOY

by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

scully

well, he is the most popular dodgers of all time, according to the team.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Dusty?

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Feb 23, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck LaSorda!

Okay, that’s harsh, but just because he’s a legend doesn’t mean that I respect him. I just can’t stand the guy.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck Lasorda

Not harsh

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Speak for yourself

I think it would be pretty harsh for anyone to do that!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 23, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

In this case, it is a far worse punishment for the person doing the fucking than the person receiving the fucking.

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on Feb 23, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, the lovechild would have two horns and a tail.

"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
www.TommyLasordaistheAntichrist.com

by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Feb 23, 2010 8:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I would never want to subject anyone to that, except for maybe Mike Piazza or Eric Gagne.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss old Gagme

hopefully he’ll make the big team and pitch in some blowouts.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love to see Sandoval stand in against his sorry scraggly pubic hair goatee and rip a 222 mph shot off his forehead.

by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

hehe

You must be new

by E Ticket on Feb 24, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a year where he gets a bit more durable and reliable. His breaking pitches stay nasty.

IP: 190
ERA: 3.90
K: 184
BB: 85
HRA: 16

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

that’s about the projection I was going to offer.

FU, FO

by oldjacket on Feb 23, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 189
ERA: 3.97
K: 209
BB: 79

W-L: 13-7

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Feb 23, 2010 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

The rhythm of the first paragraph/intro part made me think: “If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.”

Also, Grant, I’m on board with your prediction. He’s inconsistent enough to maintain our longing for consistency. Why should he change his stripes now?

by Every6thDay on Feb 23, 2010 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 168
ERA: 4.13
K: 174
BB: 81
HRA: 16

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

by wjackalope on Feb 23, 2010 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 170
ERA: 4.11
K: 173
BB: 89
HRA: 17

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

I'll be optimistic

175 IP
3.90 ERA
200 Ks
85 BBs
14 HRA

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 23, 2010 1:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I agree, he has a breakout year like Cain did last year
IP: 190
ERA: 3.10
K: 208
BB: 81
HRA: 16

by helloooonoonan on Feb 23, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm being both nice and mean here. Heaven and hell. Peanut butter and jelly.

IP: 147
ERA: 3.99
K: 160
BB: 69
HRA: 18

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

I always thought jelly was too mean.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 23, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Jelly is just misunderstood

It’s just spread too thin.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Must be jelly ‘cause jam don’t shake like that.

JUST A CITY BOY

by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel thin… sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew that quote, but couldn’t place it – started Googling, and remembered it was Bilbo Baggins before I finished typing.

/nerd

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, they had butter in Midworld?

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

middle earth

and sure, why not?

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You can make butter out of any kind of milk.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Never heard of coconut butter?

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got nipples

could you milk me?

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If you give me enough time, yes.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinky.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but I would buy you dinner first.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't

He can buy his own dinner with the money I leave on the dresser.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a lot of men in your profession.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 23, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that your best line?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I can provide excellent references by request.

JUST A CITY BOY

by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Macworld

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Butter?

I barely know her!

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

win

you’re in midseason form!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

by which I mean

best shape of your life!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm optimistic.... i think

IP: 177
ERA: 3.98
K: 185
BB: 70
HRA: 16

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

I'm feeling good too!

IP: 184
ERA: 3.89
K: 200
BB: 75
HRA: 12

Yeah, they’re arbitrary numbers. But I feel good about those arbitrary numbers.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 23, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

I looked back at my prediction from last year, and it seems like my prediction this year is eerily similar. Not feeling so good about it now…

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 23, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Still inconsistent + time on the DL

IP: 153
ERA: 4.18
K: 159
BB: 65
HRA: 14

Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

by Yeti Monster on Feb 23, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

I hope this is an optimistic look

IP: 160
ERA: 3.90
K: 160
BB: 85
HRA: 16

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Feb 23, 2010 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

or matt cain.

Kosuke Fukudome. Dickie Thon. Jung Bong. Pete LaCock. Best. Baseball Names. Ever.

by Ramah71 on Feb 23, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I BELIEVE

IP: 195
ERA: 3.97
K: 210
BB: 91
HRA: 19

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

Sure, why not.

IP: 167
ERA: 4.15
K: 162
BB: 81
HRA: 18

by Every6thDay on Feb 23, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

Signs point to Yes

IP: 186
ERA: 3.78
K: 177
BB: 82
HRA: 16
WINZ: 16

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Feb 23, 2010 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

More Consistent, but not dominant

IP: 183.2
ERA: 3.86
FIP: 4.02
K: 196
BB: 77
HRA: 13
W-L: 14-9

Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Thanks for sharing a year of your great career with the Giants and their fans.

by Speedforthewin on Feb 23, 2010 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

I think he’ll take the next step, but also have one DL trip

GS 28
IP 170
ERA 3.47
K 190
BB 77
HRA 15
WL 10-7

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

So you’re saying he’s NOT in the Best Shape of His Life?

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, not for long.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez

IP: 149
ERA: 3.97
K: 148
BB: 63
HRA: 12

If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.

by Mike Hawk on Feb 23, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 185
ERA: 3.89
K: 200
BB: 85
HRA: 17
No-Hitters: 3

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

DURTY 4 FUGGLA

IP 200
ERA 1.27
K 300
BB 98
No hitterz 2

Nah, but I am deeply on the Durty bandwagon. I think that Johnson comparisons are warranted because if- no, when he puts it together he is going to be ungodly… or at least pretty awesome.

by srpwrd on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

But I am excited about watch where he will end up in his progress, though it sucks that our team’s record hangs on that progression.

by srpwrd on Feb 23, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 177
ERA: 3.89
K: 190
BB: 80
HRA: 19
W-L: 14-10
His turn around post no hitter has me believing a little bit. As much as Kruk talks about arm slot he actually had me believing in it a little bit with Dirty. That said, he will still implode every now and then

by mocal on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

That said, he will still implode every now and then.

Like sucking too much air out of a balloon!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Like putting too much air in a balloon and something bad happens!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 23, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

IP 176
ERA 3.92
K 182
BB 81
HRA 15

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Feb 23, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

I say a lot of this

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:05 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

thats right

DUDE IS SO SICK HE DIRTIED THE DAMN NATIONAL LEAGUE EAGLE

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I kind of miss the days when the NL and AL had their own distinct identities. Beyond just the DH rule, I mean.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Senior Circuit FTW

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

jcb9 says that “the DH rules!” Quote confirmed!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Blue and red. Obviously

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

random funfact

When I was a kid, the President of the NL was a black guy named White, and the President of the AL was a white named Brown. Bobby Brown, actually.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Bobby Brown is white!??!

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You heard it here first!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

that's ok

Frank White is black.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

and

Bud Black is white

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

And Frank Black is white.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

And Bud White is…

Damn it.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 23, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Jack Black is White

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 24, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

So is Jack White.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 24, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Black was Brad Pitt

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 24, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Those were funny lookin’.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

And they were the reason why the AL strike zone was higher than the NL zone.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I like

170 IP
3.79 ERA
190 K
80 BB
15 HRA

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 183.3
ERA: 3.86
K: 179
BB: 72
HRA: 17

Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...

by AngelWillSaveUs on Feb 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

I didn’t see Sanchez’s no-hitter, which still makes me sad… But that 9th inning throw from Renteria over to first looked like he threw a knuckleball! Even knowing he makes the out, I still wasn’t sure he was going to get it there in time!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

If Sanchez puts it together, doesn’t he essentially turn into Randy Johnson? I’ll take that.

I guess it’s a matter of stamina. Randy could pitch for days.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Ugly 2.0

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Feb 23, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

This time with less ugly! But also with more poo.

It’s a trade-off.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Says you!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

2010 Dirty

Now with more ugly!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 23, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 165
ERA: 4.64
K: 183
BB: 91
HRA: 18

by microwave donut on Feb 23, 2010 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

Soooo...

better season – Zito or Sanchez?

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

Sanchez.

I think 2009 is the best season we ever get out of Zito.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

In fact, I am going to trash Zito when it is his turn for a projection.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

you get him, Lars!

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

I don’t think he finishes the year in the rotation.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

wut?

But he’s never injured! So you must mean that he’ll really su…oh.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Helloooo Wellemeyer!

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

No, YEAH JOEY!

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

YEAH JOEY!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Helloooooooo

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You actually think they will pull him from the rotation? They didn’t have the guts to go through with it when they demoted him to the bullpen last year. That lasted what, a few days?

Even if he sucks, he plays. Giants Protocol.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Sadly, I think the best ERA I can project for Zeets is 4.34. If I remove all the happy juju in my model, it gets pretty ugly.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

dead cat bounce last year

to be followed by rigor mortis cat decline

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

sigh, sanchez.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

on an unrelated note

I read that Khalil Greene won’t be playing for the Rangers for unspecified reasons.

I’m kind of amazed anyone even gave him a contract – he had the whole social anxiety thing last year, and aside from that he’s been one of the worst hitters in baseball two years running.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

I thought the reasons were that his anxiety was flaring up really badly again.

And yeah, I can’t believe the Rangers gave him a guaranteed contract.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t see that, but that was what I assumed was going on.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 161
ERA: 4.03
K: 193
BB: 92
HRA: 13

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 23, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

/checks jponry’s prediction

Phew.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 23, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re off the hook… THIS TIME.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t be so reserved. groug is off the heezy.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: So what would be the best way to tell my best friend I am going to be late to his birthday party because I have to do my fantasy baseball draft?

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

If he’s a dude, he should understand

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a big baseball fan.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

How much do you predict the overlap to be? The last rounds usually suck anyways

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta drive from Fresno to Walnut Creek. 3 hours or so

Draft is at 9, party starts at like 1 goes all night, so I am not worried too much, I may miss the lazer tag. Will still be there for the copious drinking.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, if you hang with the draft till like 11, get to Walnut Creek at like 2, you should be good right?

I’d be bummed to miss lazer tag though.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

serious, plus this is my best friend, been like my brother for over 10 years. would kinda feel bad to blow him off.

on the other hand, its my first draft.

Wonder if I can run it on my iphone and just do it on the road. SAFEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha most drafts are heavily flash based and wouldnt work on a phone. You can always have a buddy pick up the end of the draft for you

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, I’ll just call my friend and walk through the draft with him on the drive over.

“YOU OWE ME! GET ME TIMMY!”

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha well that will be first or second round. It would be more like NATE’S MY SLEEPER PICK IN THE 20TH ROUND

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

And don’t be that guy at the draft who is rushing everyone. Draft day is supposed to be fun.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck it, I will tell him I overslept, he’s lazy, he will understand that.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Or just blame traffic

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not fun though when there are those few who take the full time. Come on, you should have your picks ready when its your turn.

Auction drafts are even worse. I did one that lasted about 5 hours and this was after each team already had 4 players each who were keepers

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

New advice

Send me as your proxy.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

If the party goes all night I don’t see the big deal.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t say anything. If he gives you shit, just start screaming, “POKEMONZ!!!!!” at the top of your lungs.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That he would understand.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell him that you’re the only dude bad enough to save the president. If he has a soul, he’ll understand.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell him that you’re going to be late to his birthday party because you ate some bad seaweed, and got stuck on the toilet doing your fantasy draft.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Show up to the birthday party on-time, laptop in tow, then pretend you’re really sick. Go to the bathroom, lock the door, and hope your friend has Wi-Fi.

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

yours and howie’s response are eerily similar.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

We both checked with jponry to make sure it was the right answer.

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

“I’ll be a little late. I have a thing.”

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It works on at least two levels.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Feb 23, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this as ’I’ll be late, I have a little thing’.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 23, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

of course you would.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You say:

“I am going to be late to your birthday party. I have to do my fantasy draft.”

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Honesty never works.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If I learned anything from television it’s this

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 23, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

You show up with more beer. Call it even.

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 23, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Beer is my fantasy draft.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess you can tap into your reserves to make sure your beer jokes don’t run dry.

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 23, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Food

Who the fuck does this guy think he is? I lump everyone who condemns french fries in with Nazis and the followers of Xenu.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

Oh fuck, now I want some cheddar wedges.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

they removed the fryer from the work cafeteria

ostensibly for “health reasons”.

removed fat from other things.

Now, though, they sell massive baked potatoes, with all the loaded up crap. And pizzas that are 2000+ calories.

And they were really good fries, too.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

French???

More like patriot wedges.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

with liberty sauce

not to be confused with liberty cabbage: http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/database/article_display.cfm?HHID=531

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Other people eating that shit is the reason that it costs so much for me to go to the doctor.

by rotorueter on Feb 23, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

HEY

You sayin’ something about badly made chili cheese fries?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s saying they aren’t good for your health.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 23, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

My reality ignores such things.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only dream about french fries now. =/

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

But they are wonderful dreams, are they not?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Feb 23, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

I am wandering through a field of french fries growing straight from the earth! Through this field is a babbling brook of catsup.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Gladiator, the Director’s Cut

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 23, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

anyone watch Psych?

I could really go for some Fries Quatro Queso Dos Fritos.

Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl

by Viliphied on Feb 23, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

and yes

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 23, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

USA shows are pretty awesome in general. I was a big fan of Monk

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 24, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

The Hat has the best chili fries. And a damn good pastrami sammich. Okay, I’m hungry now.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man...

I miss The Hat so much!

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

One other thing...
And a damn good the best pastrami sammich on the face of the earth.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t tried enough pastrami sammiches to make that claim, but it’s definitely the best I’ve ever had. I had one at Jerry’s Famous Deli before and it wasn’t even in the same class.

/moves back to California for the food/

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Their Chili Fries serving is huge. Also very good. Yup, their pastrami is the best I have ever had.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Feb 23, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm

Looks like I know what I’m having for lunch tomorrow….

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Feb 23, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly,

I don’t eat at any of those places. sucks though, cuz I hate mcdonalds fries =/

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Feb 23, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell me about this Xenu fellow.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 23, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really a believer

IP 173
ERA 4.31
K 155
BB 76
HRA 17

Happy to be wrong, but I just don’t see the control showing up on a consistent basis. If he can cut his walk rate by half or even a third (and stay healthy) he’ll be a CY candidate.

by taliesin on Feb 23, 2010 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 170
ERA: 4.01
K: 171
BB: 82
HRA: 18

Start to start variation: HUGE, at least three starts where he leaves before the end of the fourth inning.

Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.

by Scottsdale on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

IP 171

ERA 4.19
K 163
BB 81
HRA 15

by rotorueter on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 188
ERA: 3.60
K: 197
BB: 87
HRA: 9

by malarky on Feb 23, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

Averaging the predictions:

We have:

IP: 174
ERA: 3.96
K: 181
BB: 80
HRA: 15

F. the Lewis.

by calpolynate on Feb 23, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

i’d hit it.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Bam!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope is a dangerous thing...

But I think this is his year.

190 IP
3.50 ERA
200 K
90 BB
15-8

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Feb 23, 2010 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

Optimstic, but not overly so

183 IP
3.87 ERA
195 K
71 BB

12-10

Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Feb 23, 2010 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Ill just +1 this to save time

GrahamCrakalaka

by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 23, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i was thinking about putting an overly exaggerated optimistic projection, but id rather just agree with this.

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Feb 23, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

IP 183
ERA 4.34
SO 189
BB 76
HR 17

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Feb 23, 2010 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

IP 180
ERA 3.75
SO 200
BB 80

by DesertFox on Feb 23, 2010 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

dirty backdoor slider is dirty

Also, this is the year media people start the goofy “big three” talk

IP: 170
ERA: 3.60
K: 200
BB: 80
HRA: 10

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 23, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Not as long as Zeety is number 2!

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

*t-shirt plug*

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The Aces?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 23, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Timmy-Dirty-Cainer-MadBum, with Zeets as the joker?

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my. I just read the actual plot for Cop Out, and now it actually looks even worse than it did.

And the fact that it isn’t being screened for critics – not even fanboy critics – is not changing my mind of about how bad it is.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

I used to be excited for Kevin Smith movies. Now I don’t even realize when he makes one.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I predict that Jonathan Sanchez will be better than Kevin Smith’s next few movies.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Second.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly enjoyed Clerks 2, though.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah it wasn’t bad, had some funny parts. I am also a bit of a sucker for Jersey Girl.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never seen Jersey Girl, but I’ll go ahead and say:

Clerks – liked it.
Mallrats – didn’t like it.
Chasing Amy – sucks.
Dogma – liked it.
Jersey Girl – iono.
Clerks 2 – liked it.
Zack & Miri – liked it okay.
Cop Out – won’t watch.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Chasing Amy.

Also, you skipped Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, which was the last of his movies I really enjoyed. I like his podcast more than his movies nowadays.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Jay and Silent Bob was alright.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I completely forgot about Jay and Bob! I remember enjoying it, but my scant memory is telling me that it wasn’t particularly memorable. I do remember something about the CLIT, and Mark Hammil was the Cock Knocker. And there was a monkey.

I really disliked Chasing Amy mostly because I found Affleck’s character to be such a ridiculous doucheface. He just spends the whole time saying stupid things and making terrible decisions. And then in the end he’s somehow graced with perspective. Good for him, but I wasn’t into it.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I do remember something about the CLIT, and Mark Hammil was the Cock Knocker. And there was a monkey.

Epic TWSS?

Or fevered LSD trip?

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

BEES!?

FUCK BEES!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

this is what happens
Affleck’s character to be such a ridiculous doucheface

When you play yourself in movies.

He wasn’t bad in that movie with Jason Bateman this summer when he was the stoned bartender.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve actually seen him be pretty self deprecating in interviews and such. Of course, that could be acting, and you never know, but he seemed likable. At some poker thing, he said his gambling name would be “Massachusetts Fat Head”

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by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Jay and Silent Bob was pretty funny, but a little too self-congratulatory.

Ultimately, I wasn’t that impressed with it for the same reason I wasn’t that impressed by Austin Powers 3: Too many cameos and too much self-reference can submarine a movie extremely fast.

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by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Clerks – Liked
Mallrats – Not great, but watchable
Chasing Amy – No
Dogma – Liked
Jersey Girl – Liked
Clerks 2 – Liked
Zack & Miri – Have not seen, no real desire either. Maybe I would borrow it from a friend, or DVR it if its on HBO or something.
Cop Out – No desire to see.

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by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Mews is good in Zack and Miri. However you feel about the rest of the movie, it’s fun to watch him do his thing.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Mallrats, but I wasn’t too fond of Chasing Amy. I’m with you on the other movies.

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Stan Lee in Mallrats, but I thought the main character was really weak, the plotlessness wasn’t as rewarding as it had been in Clerks, and the poo-pretzels were just gross.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Chocolate-covered pretzels

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by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

potato, tomato.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

There were like two jokes in Mallrats that I liked. Plus several Central Jersey landmarks I know were in it.

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by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Clerks – Okay for a limited budget flick
Mallrats – Dammit.
Chasing Amy – Jesus, holy crap.
Dogma – Just stop. This is awful.
Jersey Girl – Please change careers.
Clerks 2 – Didn’t see it, but I’m sure it’s cute enough.
Zack & Miri – Didn’t see it.
Cop Out – I’m sure it’s like a ferris wheel, but shitty.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 23, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I really don't understand all the Chasing Amy hate.

Not singling you out Grant.

This may be from being older than a number of posters here, but there weren’t that many films that came out before this one that had an honest depiction of a gay (bi-) character that wasn’t a stereotype, and who was dealing with sincere sexual identity feelings. Now it seems pretty regular to have gay characters depicted in popular culture, both positively and negatively. Also I really like the relationship between Banky and Holden – I think it is very layered. Also: “What’s a Nubian?” Hilarious. I didn’t want to say it, but I’m gonna: this is one of my favorite films.

I’m also apparently a Kevin Smith appologist, and I didn’t realize that there was so much dislike of him in what should be his target audience (people who live in their mother’s basements, listen to Rush, and collect Pokemons). I wonder if some of the backlash is due to complete whoring of his public image. I try to separate the filmmaker from the public person which is why I can watch Chinatown and think it is brilliant.

Clerks – Brilliant. Unlike anything before it and a touchstone of the independent cinema movement.
Mallrats – Pretty funny. Stupid, not great, but funny.
Chasing Amy – Love it, see above.
Dogma – Very inconsistent. But when it is on, it is a biting satire of Catholicism/religion. Could have done without Salma Hayak and the poop monster.
J&SBSB – Same as Mallrats: Pretty funny. Stupid, not great, but funny.
Jersey Girl – Not as bad as I thought it would be. Sort of heartwarming.
Clerks 2 – Waste of time. Back to the well and poisoned it.
Zack & Miri – Really sweet and funny. His most mainstream movie aside from the whole porn thing.
Cop Out – His first film that he didn’t write (it should be the other way around – he should write and not direct). Haven’t seen it yet, and will probably just rent it.

I guess even when Smith misfires, I still laugh. He is one of those filmmakers that I have grown up with and he is a few years older than me, so I have watched all his stuff. He’s not a classically “great” filmmaker, but I would argue that his voice is as unique as any of the greats, for better or worse.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 23, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I liked Chasing Amy, too! Either that or Clerks would be my favorite of his.

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by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with everything here except for:

Chasing Amy – It had some of Smith’s best humor, but the story lost my interest as soon as Joey Lauren Adams starts yelling in the parking lot. “Oh, I thought this was just a comedy. Am I supposed to care now?”

Dogma – “Could have done without Salma Hayak” – This makes no sense.

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by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

could have done with less clothing on Salma Hayek.

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by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

My opinion of Dogma is actually that it could have done with 100% less Linda Fiorentino. Because she was beyond bad in that movie.

I do like the movie, but my god was her performance golgathanian.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

If you ever watch the commentary track on the DVD of Dogma, Kevin Smith agrees with you.

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by jcb9 on Feb 24, 2010 5:03 AM PST up reply actions  

This is an excellent point. She is terrible. There are some people who can really do Kevin Smith dialogue (where have you gone Jason Lee), and some who can’t. Not surprisingly, Alan Rickman, god among actors, can even do silly Kevin Smith dialogue.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 24, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you and I’m completely in his target audience. I did really like Chasing Amy, but maybe it was because I’m a sucker for Bildungsroman. I don’t know. It was also his first attempt at making a really emotionally complex film. He is maddeningly inconsistent, though, and could really benefit from a writing partner who is ballsy enough to say, hey, this plot element isn’t going to work. He could use someone like that.

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by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

also

someone to say, hey, maybe one order of the chili fries is enough, if you want to fit a Southwest seat.

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by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

On behalf of Kevin Smith:

ouch.

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by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this is a great idea. Also, he shouldn’t edit his own movies.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 24, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you my cousin who listens to the podcast every day everyday and cues it up on his car iPod interface to “share” with his favorite cousin, quoting verbatim from the podcast before the actual line appears, and then quickly switching to another podcast so his cousin can listen to it, all while on the freeway at 85 mph with a baby in the backseat and his cousin (me) figuring out ways to kill him and take his baby without losing control of the car?

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by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 24, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I really think that I can appreciate a lot about Chasing Amy, including a lot of the stuff that you talk about, except that the character who was in nearly every scene made me unbelievably pissed off at what I was watching.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked Chasing Amy as well

I found Affleck’s character implausibly stupid, but overall the movie was funny and engaging.

I suspect that a lot of the Chasing Amy haters saw the movie relatively recently and bring a lot of disdain for Affleck to the table. Since I saw the movie around the time it came out, he wasn’t nearly so over-exposed back then; I wouldn’t say I really liked him, but he didn’t wreck the movie for me. It’s entirely plausible that if I were seeing it now for the first time that wouldn’t be the case.

by taliesin on Feb 24, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Ben Affleck.

There I said it.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 24, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have anything against Ben Affleck.

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by Natto on Feb 24, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I echo the growing consensus that he is a better director than actor.

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by shanghaijim on Feb 24, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have anything against Ben Affleck, but I’ve also never been close enough to him for that, so…

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I tried to introduce you that one time, but you said you wanted to meet Matt Damon instead.

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by Natto on Feb 24, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

And I stand by that decision! Just like I stood by Matt Damon that day, closely enough to have something against him.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Chasing Amy bored the hell out of me, and I didn’t at all care for Ben Affleck. Even Jason Lee seemed subdued and less entertaining in it.

Mallrats, on the other hand… I enjoyed Mallrats despite horrible acting from two of the leads (Dougherty and Jeremy London). Jason Lee was pretty damn funny, and the two best parts?

“You dumb bastard, it’s a sailboat!”
“A schooner IS a sailboat, stupidhead!”

“I’m like a jackhammer. I’m in there with some pressure, and afterwards, you aren’t the same. You’re changed.”
“Where do you come up with this shit???”

Silly, but enjoyably funny for my money.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned for Sega.

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by ResDog on Feb 24, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Clerks 2 was better than the first

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This makes no sense.

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by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly

None sense.

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by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re completely different movies. The Kevin Smith who made Clerks 2 couldn’t have made Clerks if his life depended it.

I thought the thing that Clerks 2 did really well was accept the fact that it couldn’t be the same, that Kevin Smith had changed, that these characters would necessarily have had to have changed, and rolled with it. It’s a nice reflection not only on his career, but also on aging – even the process of getting just a little bit older.

But they’re different movies altogether. It’s almost not fair to think of the second as a sequel to the first.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this, but the whole thing still seemed really unnecessary.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 24, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I really liked Clerks when I first saw it, but I watched it again a couple years ago and it wasn’t near as good as I remembered it. I still like Dogma, Clerks 2 and J&SB were okay, Mallrats sucked, and the rest I haven’t seen.

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by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

My experience with Clerks was the same. It was a lot better when I was 14.

by rotorueter on Feb 23, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My experience withClerks Styx was the same. It was They were a lot better when I was 14.

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 24, 2010 2:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Clerks – liked it.
Mallrats – Liked it just fine, but man there’s some horrible acting in there.
Chasing Amy – Sucked
Dogma – Didn’t see it
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back – Liked it fine, but a little too self-congratulatory
Jersey Girl – Didn’t see it. Not sure I’d even heard of this before now.
Clerks 2 – Didn’t see it
Zack & Miri – Didn’t see it
Cop Out – Don’t plan on seeing it

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by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Me too.

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I also predict that Jonathan Sanchez’s ERA won’t be as big as Kevin Smith.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, my.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear me

If only he WAS silent.

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by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

zing

also, rec’d Natto’s shop (not green=why?)

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 23, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It took me a minute to realize that was Bengie. It almost looks like Vince Russo.

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by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Bengie looks so thin here

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by Prussian Creole on Feb 23, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSWS!

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by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

best shape of his life!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

round is a shape

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by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

only on the mccovey chronicles can we hav an afroman reference

(slogan)

THIS IS THE YEAR..........

by DoubleDeuce22 on Feb 23, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

colt 45 and two zig zags
baby that’s all we need

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by cloudydays on Feb 24, 2010 2:18 AM PST up reply actions  

i was gonna clean my room
but then i got high
i was gonna go get the broom
but then i got high
now my rooms still messd up nd i know why
‘hey hey hey’
cuz i was high cuz i was high cuz i was high

THIS IS THE YEAR..........

by DoubleDeuce22 on Feb 24, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I have never, ever found Tracy Morgan to be funny at any point in time.

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 23, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s hilarious on 30 Rock, imo.

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

+5 kabillion

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 23, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

si

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

“I only act out because I want your LOVE! Dy-no-MITE!”

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by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

nice year

IP: 185
ERA: 3.76
K: 180
BB: 85
HR: 17

by NeifiChicken on Feb 23, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

Nah, his no-hitter will evolve into Perfect Game.

Just one though.

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by scout6 on Feb 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

OFs Darren Ford and Thomas Neal (non-roster) looked strong with the bat, along with catcher Buster Posey

I’m excited for the Grizzlies.

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by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

he’s real, people.

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s real people.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

THOMAS NEAL IS MADE OF PEOPLE!

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Soylent Neal

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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants mulled a trade for Jermaine Dye last summer and plenty more rumors connected the two parties over the winter, when the slugging Bay Area native became a free agent. But the Giants passed on Dye—maybe because they have a younger version in their midst.

Ha, like that’s ever stopped Sabes before.

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by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh and obviously, BA is comparing Neal For Real For Real to Dye here.

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by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s a pretty good comp, myself. I feel like I’ve made it before.

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

actually

it was MARCELLO

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Good comp in terms of career or in terms of next couple seasons?

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by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose in the sense that I think Thomas Neal in his prime could be a similar player to Jermaine Dye in his prime.

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by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see that, especially if he continues to cut down on the K rate and develop better range on defense. He’s getting close if the way he played in the AFL is any indication.

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by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The Bud Black comp is completely mystifying.

FU, FO

by oldjacket on Feb 23, 2010 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

Nice numbers

IP: 180
ERA: 3.95
SO: 185
BB: 85
HR: 20
FIP: 4.01

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Feb 23, 2010 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

I like Sanchez

And have for a long time, somewhat irrationally, at least in the beginning. I think it’s because he’s skinny, like me, but he strikes a lot of guys out, unlike me. So yay optimism!

IP: 180
ERA: 3.95
K: 200
BB: 80
HRA: 15

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by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

Do not think he turns the corner…
IP: 175
ERA: 4.33
SO: 170
BB: 90
HRA: 16

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by Little Napoleon on Feb 23, 2010 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

Optimistic?

I scanned these posts and saw that a number of posters projected Sanchez’s (how do you do the possessive with a “z”?) ERAs in the 3.9x area and called that optimistic. Sanchez’s tERA was 3.99 last year, in a year, as Grant pointed out that he was sent to the bullpen for struggling early on. My point is that I don’t think a 3.9x ERA is all that optimistic unless you are convinced that he is going to perform worse next year and he is lucky, or about the same and he continues to be unlucky. Last year he was somewhat unlucky (4.24 ERA, 3.99 tERA). Theoretically, his tERA and ERA should line up.

Someone please correct me if they think I am interpreting this numbers incorrectly.

So, being optimistic, I will say:

IP: 180
ERA: 3.50
SO: 190 (9.5 K/9)
BB: 70 (3.5 BB/9)
HRA: 18 (.9 HR/9)

Also known as the year that Matt Cain becomes the 3rd best starter at best.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 23, 2010 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

I would think if he had a 3.5 ERA he’d throw more than 180 innings, unless he was hurt.

by taliesin on Feb 23, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

Here’s my redo (still optimistic):

IP: 200
ERA: 3.50
SO: 211(9.5 K/9)
BB: 77 (3.5 BB/9)
HRA: 20 (.9 HR/9)

/auto-defenestrates

Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me

FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 23, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point on the ERA. But one of the reasons I think a lot of posters considered themselves optimistic was the IP, 180-200 innings would be a big step up for him as well. Though I hear he’s in the best shape of his career….

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Another very good point.

/auto-defenestrates

Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
Signed,
Me

FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 23, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in the best shape of my career, i’ll have you know

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Something about J. Sanchez brings out my inner optimist — what’s left of him, anyway.

So I’m going to say /copy Uribe nee Gonzalez’ projection, because there’s an introductory paragraph preceding it, and I can’t compete with that.

by Wazl on Feb 23, 2010 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 180
ERA: 2.90
SO: 200
BB: 70
HRA: 10

by positiveuphemism on Feb 23, 2010 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

!

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 23, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

:O

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You are taking that adjective in your handle quite seriously.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be

very, very, very, very happy for Jonathan and his father.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 191
ERA: 3.37
K: 180
BB: 92
HRA: 15

3 No Hitters brought into the 6th inning

These pretzels are making me thirsty

by NuschlerFace on Feb 23, 2010 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

I am kind of shocked by how many people are posing K numbers below one an inning. Has he ever had numbers that low?

by positiveuphemism on Feb 23, 2010 5:45 PM PST reply actions  

waaaay back in 2008

although it was 157K in 158 IP

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

also 2006

33 K in 40 IP.

He was never below 1 K/IP in the minors, though!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

too many numberz…all noise at this point

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

the nerbs have gone off the deeper end

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

What did you expect from a projections post?

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Fewer nerbs?

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got some NURBS for you!

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 23, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

at least spell it right, dude

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

/scratches head

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

More cake

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 23, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 201
ERA: 3.48
K: 189
BB: 66

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 23, 2010 5:54 PM PST reply actions  

change in media coverage

is it me, or are the papers actually covering the players more this year for their basballishness, as opposed to roids and contracts?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

They mostly seem to be covering whether or not the players are in the best shape of their lives.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Not with Bengie.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, with him they’re covering how great he’ll be now that he doesn’t have the burden of hitting cleanup.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 23, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

cheers to that

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

MORE RBIS FROM THE 7-SPOT

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Over/Under 3 games ( or the opening Houston series)

Before Bengie becomes the clean up hitter again.

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 23, 2010 8:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 23, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll bet anyone any amount under four figures that Bengie bats cleanup in a majority of Giants games this season.

by taliesin on Feb 23, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Takes a lot to cover Bengie.

Especially when you’re already trying to cover Panda.

JUST A CITY BOY

by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

And Bochy’s head.

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Feb 23, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

and they damn well should be for that kind of dough

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

er, reply fail

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

To the Moon Alice!

I love Jonathan Sanchez. And I hate everything and everybody.

IP: 260 IP
ERA: 2.30
K: 287
BB: 12
HRA: 0
W 27
L 2

You know why little kids and old people say the fucked up things they do? Because the former don’t know any better, and the latter, like me, don’t give a shit.

On serious note, I loved this kid the first time I saw him throw. He did not give up a hit until the 8th game he ever pitched.

Felipe tried his best tor ruin him, but failed.

Typical of Alou, Sanchez had been used almost exclusively in relief, sporting an ERA of 1.37 after coming up from AA at the end of May, cruising right along, getting regular work, against as many different teams as possible and having much success.

22 games 18.2 innings. 14 hits 16 ks and 12 BB

Pretty fair line for a rookie in his first two months in the big leagues.

As a matter of fact, he was doing so well Sabean/Alou decided it was time to fix him. They demoted him to Fresno for a month at the end of July to learn how to start. Part of their stealth pitching rotation build up I guess. Anyway they brought him back in the beginning of September to start and of course he got his brains beat in, culminating with mush-head leaving him in to give up 8 earned runs against the brewers in the first 2+ innings at Milwaukee. He got a token back on the horse’s back start a few days later, on the 26th for a 6 inning loss against the Dbacks.

So after all the good coaching and learning how to be a starter, he came back and gave up 22 runs in 20.1 innings along with 25 hits and 11 walks 17 punchouts and an ERA of 8.41 for the 5 shitty starts forced on him in the month of September.

This is when I started sticking pins in my Felipe Alou Bobblehead Doll. He damn near ruined that kid. He and Sabean damn near succeeded in ruining him like they’ve succeeded in doing to so many other young players in the past.

Personally, I blame Bonds.

by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

for every appearance in a game

he probably warmed up three different times, plus warming up in one or two other games and never getting in.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Y'know, this is interesting.

I’ve read your anguish over bullpen false alarms for years, but I just now had a different thought about it.

I understand there’s a mental psyche – in that might take place when you’re going to enter a game…but if a normally SP pitcher gets up/warms up (We’re not talking playing BURNOUT in an attempt to forcefeed looseness to your arm – just regular progressive effort) repeatedly…well, doesn’t a pitcher in the actual game do the exact same thing?

  I mean he gets up every inning and pitches to X number of batters, right?

  So unless he’s a LOOGY he’s not getting overworked in the pen. This is, of course, dependent on individual chartacteristics. Lincecum has already shown that he has little aftereffects, we need to clone him and damned quickly.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't remember

my anguish about bullpen false alarms for years. But if you do, that’s fine. My anguish is pitching the same guys every day, particularly in blowouts. Or making the double switches and pitch-to-one-batter appearances when ahead or behind by several runs.

I was mad at Timmy’s relief appearance in that rain game not so much because he’s made of porcelain, but the stupidity of the situation. They made a big deal about not wanting him to pitch a couple of innings, sit, start up again, and ultimately waste one of his starts on a rain game. Then that’s exactly what happened.

My point was less about Sanchez and more about my recollection of Felipe’s use of every pitcher in every game. And warming every pitcher up every day, or multiple times per game. I don’t remember Sanchez being treated any differently, but I do agree with E that Felipe’s handling of relievers probably wasn’t the best way to train him to be a starter.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 24, 2010 6:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Alou’s pitching change philosophy.

Starting in the sixth inning, warm up a lefty and a rightie every inning, preferably 2 different guys 3 x. Then wait ti the starter turns a 3 run lead into a 4 run deficit, reloads the bases, than start changing pitchers until he gets to somebody who can’t get anybody out, than leave in there, thereby using up your entire bullpen in a 11 run blow-out

Fucking douchebag extremis. Worst fucking Manager ever. Even stupider than Bochy.

by E Ticket on Feb 24, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

“Get Brower up.”
“But Felipe, it’s 2025, our robot overlords have banned baseball, and a 53 year-old Jim Brower is in hiding as the leader of the resistance, which is out last hope to take back our planet. Surely the robots would notice and kill him!”
“Get. Brower. Up.”

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 24, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants Still Paying Bonds

and we’re not talking the corporate type. What the fuck—5 mil still? I was in LA last week and saw that the Dodgers signed Matt Kemp for, like, 4 or 5 mil a year! The stupid Giants are paying Rowand 12! they’re a bunch of financial nitwits…all along I thought the problem was lack of baseball smarts, but they hamstring themselves so much financially that they can’t make available funds that could make them perennial winners.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

damn, it’s like the niners still having to pay JJ stokes

by PiKAgiant on Feb 23, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

holy fuck IS THAT TRUE?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

no fucking idea, but i know they still pay ghost money

by PiKAgiant on Feb 23, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m aghast

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the memories.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 24, 2010 2:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I was comparing Jonathan to Randy Johnson before it was cool!

I don’t do projections because they’re too much work for me at this time of year. But I’ll say 3.33 ERA and 184 innings (109 plus 75).

The baseball Satanist

by thehavenot on Feb 23, 2010 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

Also during infield drills, Huff dropped a couple of routine throws. “New glove,” he called out, pointing out that he was breaking in fresh but stiff fielding equipment.

D:

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Random notes from Giants site
Kevin Frandsen backed up Juan Uribe at second base but also will work out at shortstop, Bochy said. Emmanuel Burriss shared shortstop with Edgar Renteria and will spend most of his time there for now. Bochy explained that Burriss, last year’s Opening Day second baseman, doesn’t need additional time at that spot.
Pablo Sandoval shared first base with Aubrey Huff during a bunt-pickoff drill, primarily to maintain his versatility.

Also during infield drills, Huff dropped a couple of routine throws. “New glove,” he called out, pointing out that he was breaking in fresh but stiff fielding equipment.
On the auxiliary field, outfield prospect Thomas Neal (.337, 22 homers, 90 RBIs at Class A San Jose last year) demonstrated his raw power by pumping five home runs.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 7:53 PM PST reply actions  

Realness

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Feb 23, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that was the only note about anything on the hitting front

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Besides the line about Pablo hitting a couple out.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Feb 23, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

oops my bad, yeah

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Versatility must be maintained!

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 23, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

for crap's sake

In this lineup of flagpole sitters and macrame makers, can they just pick a position for Sandoval and leave him the hell alone?

Besides, Posey needs to use the 1B mitt. Hopefully Mike Sadek will be in camp soon.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be a team run by Sabean and Bochy if they just did the logical thing.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 23, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Pump it up
While your feet are stompin’
And the jam is pumpin’
Look at here the crowd is jumpin’

by Into the Void on Feb 23, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The part about Burriss and Frandsen scares me

Because it appears that Burriss is ahead of Frandsen on Bochys depth chart.

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 23, 2010 8:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, be glad Frandsen’s on any chart at all after what he did.

JUST A CITY BOY

by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I built this amazing bridge, but do they call me Frandsen the bridgebuilder? I designed this sky scraper, but do they call me Frandsen the architect?

But you fuck one dog…

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

there's an old chestnut

but very nicely delivered. Wreck’d!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

"Been fucking the dog?"

Colloq., W.Va, USA: euphemism for wasting time

JUST A CITY BOY

by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

W. Va?

Is “Been fucking your cousin?” also a euphemism?

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

West Virginia’s fucking sweet dude, dunno what you’re talkin bout

by PiKAgiant on Feb 23, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

it is awesome

especially if you have a hot cousin

:)

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

got a friend from Wheeling sitting right next to me… but i’ve been to Morgantown, place is awesome

by PiKAgiant on Feb 23, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Well it's not only that Frandsen is behind Burriss

But the fact that Burriss appears to be ahead of Frandsen, Downs & Rohlinger is crazy

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 23, 2010 9:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He needs to learn how to hit

And improved defense would be good as well.

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 23, 2010 11:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

fred lewis needs to hit the cutoff man more often

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 23, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

This is one of the least worrisome things for me about Bochy’s management of position players. I doubt either of them will amount to much.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 23, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Burris was a first rounder.

by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Burris is a stud; he’ll prove himself.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 23, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Thomas NEAL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 23, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

NEAL before Zod!

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

VERSITILITY.

Add that to the drinking game. Anytime a news media outlet, tv or written, uses “versatility” to describe a Giants player you take a drink.

Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 24, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

IP: 191
ERA: 3.72
K: 184
BB: 76
HRA: 13

Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Feb 23, 2010 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 179
ERA: 3.94
K:168
BB: 70
HRA: 10
W/L: 15/8

by PiKAgiant on Feb 23, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

OT: American Idol

At first glance, none of these gals look like they could be official Dr Stankus Lust Objects.

This will make this season painful. More painful

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Feb 23, 2010 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

Janell is cute, but that’s mostly by comparison. Ashley Rodriguez is fairly easy on the eyes, but probably won’t make it past this or next week. After that… Yeah.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome

/goes to download

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

/returns to purge horrible song and dumb site from all memory

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Sorry, I should have warned, MUTE IS YOUR FRIEND.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 23, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

rec’d

So awesome.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 23, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This rules. The last name on the jersey only made it better.

rec’d

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 23, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol

by Tim LinCyYoung on Feb 23, 2010 10:57 PM PST reply actions  

I threw that up on the Snakepit earlier this year

…and there was an inquiry as to whether those were actually Sanchez’ arms.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 24, 2010 2:41 AM PST up reply actions  

as the person who made it.

yes, yes they are. it’s from the night of his no hitter.

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol

by Tim LinCyYoung on Feb 24, 2010 2:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I know that, and you know that, and alla everbuddy else heah knows that…

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 24, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

i really wish sanchez could be good. hes a good guy, he really just needs to work on his command and he could be really good

by Bay_Area_Pride on Feb 23, 2010 11:29 PM PST reply actions  

He is good.

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by Natto on Feb 24, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

OT

Anybody else see that Ozzie Guillen now has a Twitter account? I thought this one was pretty funny.

going to eat in half hour why dye no have a job ?

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 23, 2010 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

From this article

Besides Barry Bonds, no left-handed batter has hit 20 or more homers for them since J.T. Snow collected 24 in 1999.
*sob *

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by Natto on Feb 24, 2010 12:24 AM PST reply actions  

Speaking of Snow, Schulman reported that Snow will do less broadcasting and more roving instruction this season.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 24, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, well, it’s not like we’ve tried to find any left handed hitters besides Bonds who could do that.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe in Aubrey Huff!

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by groug on Feb 24, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I give Huff a 50/50 chance of fulfilling this need. Basically a coin flip.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll boldly predict that Sandoval hits 20 home runs as a left-handed batter this season. Would that end the streak?

by taliesin on Feb 24, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

IP: 185.2
ERA: 3.93
K: 200
BB: 79
HRA: 16
Record: 12-7

by Electric on Feb 24, 2010 12:31 AM PST reply actions  

IP: 191
ERA: 3.66
K: 222
BB: 81
HRA: 11

It's spelled "C-A-N-Z-A-N-O-S-P-A-R-E-N-T-S-D-O-N-T-B-E-L-I-E-V-E-I-N-H-I-M"

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

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by Takimoto on Feb 24, 2010 1:48 AM PST reply actions  

huh.

I just read that Aaron Boone retired. I didn’t even realize he was still playing! Honestly, the last thing I remember that guy doing was when he hit the postseason HR for the Yankees and killed the Red Sox for one last year.

He’s played for three NL teams since, so I must’ve seen him, but…

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by jcb9 on Feb 24, 2010 6:17 AM PST reply actions  

Last year, he had open-heart surgery during spring training and wasn’t back until August. I kinda remember hearing about that.

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by groug on Feb 24, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow. That’s something!

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by jcb9 on Feb 24, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

They tried to do open-heart surgery on LaSorda, but found that he had two stomachs instead

by E Ticket on Feb 24, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

you mean four

as do all ruminants.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 24, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He signed a minor league deal with someone late last year.

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by Natto on Feb 24, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Last I remember, he was with Houston.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 24, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, my projections, other than ERA, last year were pretty close! (Actual in parenthesis)

IP: 165 (163.1)
ERA: 3.99 (4.24)
K: 180 (177)
BB:88 (88)
HRA: 17 (19)

For this year I’ll go with the same projections plus 15 innings and 10K’s

IP: 180
ERA: 3.99
K: 190
BB:88
HRA: 17

My career path, have you seen it?

by say hey nation on Feb 24, 2010 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

my predictions weren't far off

But I said he’d be better in the first half than the second. Oops!

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 24, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

2010, the year he sort-of gets it

IP: 191
ERA: 4.11
K: 202
BB: 74
HRA: 18

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Feb 24, 2010 7:25 AM PST reply actions  

Sanchez-related prediction

number of times I will be glad he was not traded for Garko or a different player named Sanchez: cannot be measured with available equipment.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 24, 2010 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

Sanchez has great stuff.

IP 171 K 175 BB 86 ERA 4.01

On a horizontal line. Vertically the numbers may appear a tad differently.

by bradleybear on Feb 24, 2010 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

J Sanch Prediction

I can’t really say what his numbers will be, but my prediction for him in the 10-11 season is that he will WIN THE NL CY-YOUNG AWARD!!!!!

by waffles on Feb 24, 2010 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

Boring, Conservative Prediction

IP: 181
H: 163
HRA: 14
BB: 84
K: 173
ERA: 4.03

Still want to see last year’s consensus/ best predictions.

Also, .061 BA.

by koel on Feb 24, 2010 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

IP: 165
ERA: 4.00
K: 170
BB: 81
HR: 17

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Feb 26, 2010 4:47 AM PST reply actions  

IP: 192
ERA: 3.76
K: 200
BB: 90
HRA: 15

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