Community Projections: Edgar Renteria
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 22, 2010 1:21 PM PST
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PrintAh, spring clichés. They’ve taken out many a preseason prognosticator before. Why, maybe Livan Hernandez did lose 50 pounds and gain 10 MPH! I’ll just factor that into my projection, and I’ll also draft him on my fantasy team, and…oh. Oh, my. That ended in tears. And delicious bundt cake. But mostly tears.
There isn’t a shortage of player-about-to-take-the-league-by-storm articles from which to choose. The applicable entry for today comes from SFGate, and it’s about Edgar Renteria. To be fair, the only people espousing that position were Renteria and Bruce Bochy, who are perfectly entitled to be optimistic. Heck, I’d be more than a little annoyed if a player came in saying something like, "Well, I’m pretty washed up, but they keep paying me, so…here I am. Again." So no one’s really at fault here. It’s just a good idea to be a little cynical.
A quote from the article:
Renteria said when he got a pre-surgery second opinion from Angels orthopedist Dr. Lewis Yocum, Yocum said he did not understand how Renteria could have played the entire season.
Things that Yocum could have found in Renteria’s right elbow that would have conclusively proved that Renteria’s dismal hitting was the direct result of an injury:
- An alligator
- Tommy Lasorda and a pair of hedge trimmers, both shrunk down Inner Space-style
- Renteria’s own great-great-grandfather, which would have created a time-travel paradox and a rift in the space-time continuum, causing time to bend and tear, which would have created a black hole -- this is the easiest way to explain that much suck.
If they had found any of those three, I’d be optimistic for Renteria’s rebound. But three large bone chips? That’s just… actually, that’s probably a good explanation. Those things can’t feel good. And it would go quite a long way toward explaining how slow Renteria’s bat looked last year. You know, if Renteria could approach his success from previous seasons, it would go a long way toward…
Dammit. I started doing it again. I started to give in to the siren song of the spring optimism. Is it more likely that Renteria had a fixable problem and is now on his way to being the Renteria from his mid-to-late 20s, or is it more likely that Renteria is on the wrong side of 30, and what we saw in 2009 is what we should expect in 2010? Right. If you’re thinking logically, there shouldn’t be much of a debate.
Here’s where you mutter to yourself about the inherent pessimism of McCovey Chronicles. And here’s where I respond with how optimism usually doesn’t get me anywhere. Look at those gaudy, cleanup-worthy numbers! Ol’ Edgar would have been quite the addition if he approached that line.
Here are how the projection systems see Renteria’s forthcoming season:
ZiPS: .280/.336/.388, 7 HR, 443 AB
PECOTA: .283/.340/.403, 8 HR, 409 AB
Bill James: .276/.335/.383, 8 HR, 507 AB
CHONE: .270/.330/.385, 9 HR, 481 AB
My, my, my. Even the projection systems read the spring training articles. I’d be thrilled with any of those from the Giants’ shortstop. Maybe that’s not $9M worth of production, but it’d be an improvement over last year.
I can’t do it, though. I’m still laughing at how optimistic I was about Renteria last year, and I need to compensate.
Edgar Renteria:
AB: 355
AVG: .256
OBP: .303
SLG: .344
HR: 3
$10.5M option picked up?: Gee, probably not
I really, really hope this is wrong. There isn’t really a convincing argument why I should expect it to be wrong, so I’m going to err on the side of caution, which also happens to be the side of doom and/or gloom.
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$10.5M option picked up?: Gee, probably not
Don’t be so optimistic.
My career path, have you seen it?
LOL
Don’t be so optimistic.
You need to come to grips with reality/Sabean
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
aka Solace
Now that the bone chips are removed, yes!!!
Also, he spent all off season watching his world series winning at bat. That probably helped nothing of course.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Rafael Belliard>Barry Bonds, NERDZ!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Bochy called, he wants his logic back.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Read an article today where Fred claimed he was in the best shape of his career, too!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Fred Willard
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Fred Rogers
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Fred Basset
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Fred Wilpon
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
KFred
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
frederated
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
fredemption?
fre
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I have high hopes
I’m going with PECOTA
.283/.340/.403, 8 HR, 409 AB
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Pie is 598 million times better than bundt cake
AB: 410
AVG: .244
OBP: .281
SLG: .330
HR: 3
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 22, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions
I’m hopeful that if this is his line after 200 ABs, Uribe is the everyday SS and Renteria is on the bench. Last year, they had another year on a crazy expensive contract and it would have made them look stupid if he didn’t play. There is not an (idiotic) reason like that this time. If he is hurting the team that much, he’ll lose his job. I’m sure of it (prays that this is right).
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Feb 22, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
My prediction from last year:
AB: 500
AVG: .315
OBP: .360
SLG: .450
HR: 12
Defense: Perfectly average
Well, I got 2 things close enough to right. To bad I got 4 things horribly, horribly wrong.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
LOL me
Edgar Renteria, Giants MVP among position players? (!!!)
Nah…. but probably the top 2 or 3, next to Winn, Lewis and maybe Sandoval (emphases added)
PA: 550
AVG: .280
OBP: .345
SLG: .420
HR: 10
Defense: -3 runs
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Lars pulled that 598 out of jcb9's pie-biased ass :)
AB: 450
AVG: .270
OBP: .310
SLG: .350
HR: 8
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Renteria said when he got a pre-surgery second opinion from Angels orthopedist Dr. Lewis Yocum, Yocum said he did not understand how Renteria could have played the entire season.
I love how they keep saying this stuff as though it’s a defense of Renteria. It’s not – it’s a condemnation of how fucking stupid the Giants are.
Also, you know, Edgar was pretty lousy in 2008. And he’s turning 34.
.245 / .290 / .315. He’s done.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Also, you know, Edgar was pretty lousy in 2008.
I was just about to say this. What’s his excuse for 2008 then?
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by theghostofjasonellison on Feb 22, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I swear I remember reading that he only sucked in 2008 because he was hurt and 2009 would be different. Maybe I’m confusing him with Aaron Rowand, though.
Oh, and there was also the whole, “He sucks in the AL but he’s always been good in the NL!” nonsense.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
He was hurt every year except when he was healthy enough to get that game winning hit!
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by theghostofjasonellison on Feb 22, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
From Henry, 3-26-09:
The Giants viewed Renteria’s 2008 season as an aberration caused by poor physical conditioning and a lack of desire on a wretched team that was out of contention early.
So since he is in the best shape of his life, it’ll be OK.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.
By the way, in 2008 the Tigers were 4.5 games out on June 30. In 2009, the Giants were 6 games out on June 30.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.
Neither the facts, or a healthy dose of skepticism, seem to have much bearing on what is reported about the Giants in the media. Larry Baer is a master, and Magowan brought him into the fold years ago for his public relations (bullying, bullshitting and propaganda)skills.
Its the main reason why so many Giants followers are ignorant of much of what goes on around the Giants.
I have no use for New York media, but they do not as a whole, see themselves as an extension of the Yankees or Mets front office
by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
No use, eh?
Spend a few minutes (in other words, do an in – depth analysis) with AzCentral, O E.
You’ll see The New York Times in a whole new light.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 23, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
One more and I’ll stop.
Renteria’s 2008 1st half, when the wretched Tigers were in it but Edgar was depressed that they weren’t better, or something: .627.
Renteria’s 2008 2nd half, when the Tigers plunged from contention to finish 14 games out: .812.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.
Oh I remember from the late 60s the Phoenix Gazzette and the Arizona Republic.
New York media, not just the papers, are vicious, petty, agenda driven jackals. They’re fairly narcissistic about themselves. Lupica, Reilly, Verducci. The whole collection of shitbag experts, but better that then the collection of Max Mercy’s that cover the Giants.
by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
This is depressing
AB: 345
AVG: .267
OBP: .319
SLG: .380
HR: 8
10.5 mil option picked up: No, after Brandon Crawford’s OPS in Fresno is .850
Games started in the #2 hole: 42
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Thanks for sharing a year of your great career with the Giants and their fans.
And I was so wrong last year
AB: 489
Avg: .307
OBP: .357
SLG: .432
HR:13
Defense: will make Giants fans beg for the bocockTodd Jennings: If he’s on the DL, he can’t suck as much, right?
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Thanks for sharing a year of your great career with the Giants and their fans.
by Speedforthewin on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
10.5 mil option picked up: No, after Brandon Crawford’s OPS in Fresno is .850
I bet he has a .675 OPS and starts 2011 in our lineup anyway.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I still don’t know that that’s worse than signing someone expensive and bad. The Giants typically have cruddy shortstops, anyway.
It’s a commentary on the Giants’ lousy development of hitters and how they seem to be determined to fasttrack Crawford despite evidence they shouldn’t more than anything.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
oh I dunno
the last two SS fastracked without regard to hitting ability really did fine* once they got to the majors.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
LOL at my thinking this was pessimistic last year
I’m slightly bearish on Renteria
AB: 480
BA: .272
OBP: .328
SLG: .391
HR: 8
Defense: Not horrible, but bad enough that someone will make a fanshot about how his defense is much worse than Sandoval’s, a few people will shout the original poster down, and then everyone else will settle into discussing the last novel they read.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Zodiac by Neal Stephenson
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
it was a little rough
clearly an earlier work.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I'm genuinely optimistic!
AB: 500
AVG: .293
OBP: .342
SLG: .402
HR: 7
Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.
Meh- unsure
PA 500
AVG: .275
OBP: .330
SLG: .380
HR: 8
Defense: -5 UZR
I think that’s somewhere in the range of 1-1.5 WAR
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
PA: 450 (because no, the Giants won’t bench him)
AVG: .270
OBP: .325
SLG: .410
HR: 7
Defense: awful
Times Bochy mentions winning the World Series: 7
Times Bochy mentions Renteria’s leadership: 1400
No. of bone chips discovered in left elbow after season: 3.14159
Chances the Giants pick-up his option: 4:1
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 1:41 PM PST reply actions
The homeruns are something i don’t care about actually, the only thing i care about is the OBP and the AVG
.350 /.400 /.450
OPS / % Games Played / % FPOM
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
and by the way
The link to last year’s Renteria reminds me of how scouts a year ago though the Renteria contract was a horrible joke and that he was completely done and couldn’t hit anymore. They said all this without even knowing he would be hurt, mind you.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Edgar Renteria:
AB: 431
AVG: .262
OBP: .316
SLG: .359
HR: 2
Not horrible, not great. Hopefully, not so good that he gets a contract extension, but then again this is Brian Sabean….
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
How is a .675 ops not horrible? Especially coming from a guy who can’t catch a cold, throw out the trash, with all the range of a three-legged turtle.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Well...
I don’t really speak SLG and OPS, so perhaps my accent threw things off. Please insert whatever “not horrible” numbers you or others might think appropriate.
"And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day,
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends."
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
AB: 380
AVG: .272
OBP: .320
SLG: .355
HR: 5
$10.5M option picked up?: Obviously yes. To which we then see:
AB: 500
AVG: .233
OBP: Sabean says, “What the hell does THAT stand for again?”
SLG: .300
HR: 0
Re-signed following the conclusion of the season? Shouldn’t be, but Sabean doesn’t like the free agent market and decides the best options in the minors are at least a year away. Renteria signs a 1 year deal.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Meh
.271/.322/.376
HR: 7
UZR/150: -3
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
I'm not sure whether or not this is optimistic.
AB: 437
AVG: .259
OBP: .311
SLG: .366
HR: 10
I don't know about that, to the groin.
That slugging might be a little low.
No wait, those home runs are probably way too high.
Whatever. I’ll let the damn thing stand.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Umm...
.000/.000.000
HR: 0
I say Renteria gets injured in spring training and we see Uribe at SS where he can earn that 4 million we gave him.
Uh, dude, if he gets hurt he’ll just keep playing. He’s a gritty gamer veteran presence in the clubhouse who teaches the kids to play the game the right way, by refusing to go on the DL even if it hurts the team. Duh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
This is how much faith I have in the GINATZ BRASZS
I bet if this was his actual line during the regular season, Bochy would be continuing to play him.
Remember when he was this guy? SABES N BOCH DUHZ!!
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Sheff's thoughts:
“Damn, my face is in the wrong place. They better not put this on a magazine cover or something.”
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Feb 22, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
lol
It does look like he wants to charge the photographer.
I get a kick out of the beatific, adoring look on Jeff Conine’s face.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Is Napoleon Dynamite hanging out in the back on the left there?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
“Well, I have all your equipment in my locker. You should probably come get it cause I can’t fit my numchucks in there anymore”
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'll go with
AB: 438
AVG: 267
OBP: 324
SLG: 367
HR: 7
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Edgar Renteria:
AB: 447
AVG: .266
OBP: .315
SLG: .371
HR: 6
Option? LOL… no
by microwave donut on Feb 22, 2010 1:56 PM PST reply actions
AB: 450
AVG: .247
OBP: .323
SLG: .386
HR: 8
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Dude takes walks!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
He actually does! He has decent strike zone judgment but can’t make good contact anymore.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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thith ith a very optimithtic projection
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 22, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
So June 5th would be that LHJ promotional day?
I am hoping for a majority female crowd…
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Feb 22, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve tried to get some of those in the past, but my left hand isn’t very coordinated.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
You apparently have very generous/awkward givers of birthday gifts.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
AB: 340
AVG: .276
OBP: .480
SLG: .565
HR: 28
RBI: 66
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Mild optimism
…if you can call it that.
AB 385
AVG .273
OBP .326
SLG .376
HR 7
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
I’m thinking slightly better than last year but still pretty sucky. Luckily it’s not the end of the world if your shortstop can’t hit. I’m more worried about other areas.
Nobody likes money
Looking at the related articles made me laugh
Post-Game Recap: The Giants Are Out of This Thing, and Running Down the Street To Avoid the Thing’s Flaming Wreckage
One of Grant’s top-10 titles of 2009.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 22, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions
I'll take any of the projections listed
ZiPs, Pecota, Bill James, Chone, etc.
Still think it’s weird that Chone Figgins comes up with projections in the offseason.
Win the inning.
I can’t wait for Bip to be in the booth again, will update then.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Feb 22, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
With Rent, its win the sprint to the postgame spread
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
not as weird as how that name is spelled/pronounced.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
"Chone of the Dead"
Did I hear correctly? This morning on KNBR I thought someone pronounced it like Shawon.
Before today I thought it sounded like a truncated form of “chonies”.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Yeah
it’s pronounced like Sean or Shawn, etc.
Doesn’t rhyme with phone
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
AB: 475 (sigh…)
Avg: .255
OBP: .312
SLG: .345
HR: 6 (but they will be clutch)
Option exercised: No. Crawford is gonna have one bad stretch in August that will allow Sabez to justify to himself that Renteria is better than any inhouse option and he will negotiate a 2 year extension with him the following day.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
I was gonna say that. Crawford will suck, Renteria will dead-cat-bounce just enough to look like a plausible option once again, and Sabean will sign him to a two-year $12m contract.
It’s the F. Sanchez deal all over again. Renteria’s shoulders will promptly explode into a million little pieces, but he’ll play through it.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Dear Edgar,
If the doctor doesn’t understand why your arm didn’t fall off, maybe YOU should have said, “Hey, I think my arm is falling off. Maybe I should have that looked at.” Moron.
PA: 400
BA:.225
OBP: .295
SLG: .310
HR: 2
Sucks Again?: Yes.
Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.
by Little Napoleon on Feb 22, 2010 2:21 PM PST reply actions
should he have looked before or after he signed a $18mm contract?
Cause, right now willful ignorance seems to be paying off.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Yeah, I actually don’t think that Renteria is the “moron” in this situation
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Quiet you
I’m starting a meme
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
No, lets.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I made this when I was really bored.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
The picture in the bottom right is delightful. Mostly for the jersey and where the baseball is in relation to it and his hand.
by fantastical on Feb 23, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
The way I figure it...
Renteria will hit exactly well enough and no better to convice Sabes to pick up his 2011 option…
So…. .315/.340/.377 ?
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
Drop that down to .270/.320/.370 and Sabes will still re-sign him.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
actually
the first number is all that matters… I do figure he’ll have to have at least a .290 BA to get his option picked up.
$10.5M is way off market value, even for Brain Sabean, so I figure it will take more than that.
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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dead cat
AB 502
.270/.330/.370
HR 6
the fact that this qualifies as a “bounce” is truly sad
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
AB: 491
AVG: .263
OBP: .324
SLG: .378
HR: 6
$10.5M option picked up?: Somehow, no
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I swear I didn’t look at jponry’s prediction before I made this one.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
SWEAR TO ME!!!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I already did, man.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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GIVE ME THE DAGGER!!!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
I SAW YOU PEEKING
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I think you misspelled peeping.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
You misspelled “peeing,” too.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 22, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, damn. You know, I always do that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
I C U P
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U R 5
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 22, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
IS THAT WHERE YOU KEEP YORS?!?
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meme-tastic
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AB 425
AVG. .282
OBP. .322
SLG .371
HR 7
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by Smotheredinhugs on Feb 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions
I have my own projection system
Number of times I say “Fuck Renteria:” 112
Number of times I laugh at his corpse-like range: 47
Number of bad swings: 3700
Number of Bochy excuses for his awful play: 65
That last one seems to be a couple-couple too low.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
On the bright side, he’ll be playing in the National League this year.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
I hear he’s in the best shape of his life, too!
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 22, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
AB: 435
AVG: .267
OBP: .331
SLG: .362
HR: 6
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Edgar is up there in the top 5 worst signings of the Sabean era, but...
He also provided my favorit baseball moment of 2009
I like how that video shows the whole at bat up until the slam and then cuts off
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I don’t think he’s close to being one of the top 5 worst signings.
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That says a lot about Sabean.
What do you rank as top 5? I think Zito has to lead it off, but Renteria seems up there to me.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Neifi
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I’m not sure I’d actually rank Rowand as one of the worst. A terrible contract, definitely, and that’s not 20-20 hindsight considering his stats, but I can at least understand why Sabean jumped on Rowand after he had his career year. Others – Zito, Renteria, Roberts, just leave me flabbergasted (fun word).
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
We already had a hundred other centerfielders though.
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At the time, we didn’t have any in-house options for SS, and the SS market was meh. It was at least understandable, unlike other contracts.
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True, but to overpay by that much is just ridiculous to me, especially in light of his (realistically) expected production. The Giants could have gotten much more value out of that money, so I consider it an awful contract.
This same reasoning applies to Rowand’s contract too, of course, I just consider Renteria’s contract such a gross overpay.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
The length of the contract makes it less egregious, but it was pretty bad. What are the 5 worst?
Zito is not really on Sabean. Everything I have heard points to McGowan and Baer on that one. Edgardo Alfonzo was bad. Freddy Sanchez may turn out to be bad.
I understand the whole “Zito was Magowan’s” reasoning, but I really don’t like giving Sabean a pass on the whole thing. It should have been his job to explain to the owners that it would be a terrible signing and to convince them not to make it. That he didn’t do that is damning enough on his part.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
I feel the same way. I’m willing to buy that Magowan pushed signing Zito, but that doesn’t absolve Sabean in my mind. A good GM would have slapped Magowan several times for even mentioning the possibility.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Clearly not enough (in the baseball world at least).
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Agood GMperson with a bac lower than 3.50 would have slapped Magowan several times for even mentioning the possibility.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Alfonzo is bad in retrospect, but I imagine a lot of people were excited and happy to get him at the time.
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Truth
I think the first time I truly hated Sabes was when he signed Alfonzo and essentially let Kent go.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
I remember being excited as he had killed the Giants in the playoffs in 2000, but in looking back at his numbers, he hit .324 .425 .542 in 2000 and then .243 .322 .403 in 2001 and had a slight resurgance in 2002 at .308 .391 .459 before joining the Giants in 2003 and hitting .259 .334 .391.
4 years $26MM…
I admit I was.
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was a good move.
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1) Zito
2) Rowand
3) Roberts
4) Benitez
5) Alfonzo
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 22, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Just wait till Rowand hits this years part of “every 3 years” cycle. Then he may fall to 5 or maybe 6.
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best shape of his life!
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Yes
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they money wasn't bad
and he was at least…serviceable, to put it nicely. If it came down to signing tucker or signing roberts, at the contracts they had, I would have rather had tucker. yeah, I know about the picks lost, but still…
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 22, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
wasn't that
the infamous “let’s sign someone to avoid that nasty draft pick” contract?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
And hence it being so horrible a deal. He was signed with the express intention of giving away the first round pick. That’s what’s galling about the deal. And calling a sub-replacement level (his second season in SF) player serviceable is more than generous.
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Number of Times We Favorably Compare Renteria To Derek Jeter: 0.
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It’s not fair to compare anyone to Jeter. How can you compete with perfection?
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In case anyone hasn’t seen the Deadspin piece that is about six months old but also so good that I’m willing to post such an old link.
One of the funniest things I have ever read.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I think Renteria favorably compares to Derek Jeter.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think Renteria favorably compares toDerek Jetera used enchilada
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
naw
I’d rather have the used enchilada.
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OT: Anyone know what Damon Bruce is announcing tonight?
He just twat’d:
-DamonBruce Mandatory Sportsphone tonight from 7-10. Major announcement about yours truly.
Is he leaving?
/crosses fingers
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Maybe that he favorably compares Renteria to Derek Jeter?
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
FIREDOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
(to be replaced by FP Santangelo, no doubt)
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
"Thanks for the call, Greg in San Rafael!
“This reminds me of the time I was playing under Felipe Alou during my days as a ballplayer.”
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/bad Felipe impression
“Thanks for the call, dude!”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
If he had been fired, he would probably not be promoting it as he is. His annoying self-congratulatory tone makes it sound like it is good news (to him). A FO post with the Giants is not absurd.
He’s just baiting us for the switch. He wants us to think that he’s happy, because he knows that’s what will make us the angriest before we have a chance to rejoice.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
maybe something to do with the Warriors?
He actually sounded less horrible doing that stuff (to me at least), but I think he was basically reading stuff for the pregame.
If he sounds excited it must have something to do with the Big 10 or Chicago, the only things worth talking about on SF sprots radio.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Um...
I think the announcement is that someone checked his twaddle page!
/cues “Celebration”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
You raise a very good point. I am not exactly sure why I follow him, but I am also not sure why I used to think Schaefer beer was good.
all the info is here
http://damonbruce.com/pages/main
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I flipped through that book once in a store. Landed on the page: “Worst Free Agents in San Francisco Sports History.” In the top ten: Ray Durham.
Just…wow.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 22, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
Wow.
Off the top of my head, in no particular order:
1) Barry Zito
2) Armando Benitez
3) Aaron Rowand
4) Edgardo Alfonzo
5) Neifi Perez
6) Michael Tucker
7) Mark Portugal
8) Terry Mulholland
9) Dave Roberts
10) Edgar Renteria
I could go on…
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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It’s funny that we had this discussion earlier in the thread and Durham did not come up on anyone’s list.
heh
I did the Shift-A thing on a lot of this thread.
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That’s because Durham was good.
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And we’ve had lots of shitty free agent contracts over the years, so it’s not even like he’s a solid signing who slides into the end of the list because there aren’t ten actual bad ones to fill it up.
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also, though I hate to put his name in such an inglorious list
Re-signed Robby Thompson to a multi-year deal after 1993 turned out to be a disaster.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
What the fuck?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just to illustrate how ridiculous that is
Even including his ENTIRE time as a Giant (which includes one horribad year), Durham put up 15.3 WAR and was worth a total of $52.6 million dollars over six years. Over that period of time, he actually made $41.1 million.
That’s about as GOOD as you can expect a free agent contract to go in this day and age.
Wow, I miss Ray :(
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Always liked Ray-ray.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 22, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
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The G stands for Garrett.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
There once was a Fark Photoshop-off using this picture.
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Me too. Good player. Good Guy. Good Giant. Sabean treated him poorly at the end. An unceremonious dumping off to the Seattle Pilots. Fuck Bip Roberts and FP and the rest of those useless hosers, bring Ray back. At least he ACTUALLY PLAYED LIKE A MAJOR LEAGUER. Loved that guy. Truly.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
This guy literally made me scream at the radio last week.
He was incredibly rude to a caller. Even though he was right about the caller asking a stupid question, I still felt it was horrible how he treated him.
And after he went on a tirade about how he was right, and how the caller was wrong, he started defending the Aubrey Huff and Mark DeRosa’s signings as ‘good signings’.
I wouldn’t necessarily consider either of those signings ‘bad’.. But they certainly weren’t ‘good’.
And yeh.. He’s just a rude know-it-all (despite not really knowing a damn thing) blowhard who won’t shut up.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 22, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeh.
Because overpaying is a good idea.
It’s why they call it overpaying.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 22, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
He’s constantly an asshole to callers. Every time I’ve been unfortunate enough to hear him, he’s been being an asshole to his callers. Even the ones who weren’t asking stupid questions. He just tried to make it seem like they were idiots the whole time. One of the reasons I don’t listen to him. I don’t like assholes, and on the radio I particularly dislike when being an asshole is your entire schtick.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
I only generally listen to Murph and Mac in the morning, and they’re pretty good about it. Sometimes they can be monumentally stupid about sports, but in general they’re just out there to have a laugh and keep things light.
I can’t stand Radnich because of the asshole effect, though. I’d listen to my music more, but I don’t have a player and probably won’t have one for a good long while. So, often, I just end up riding in silence or listening to a news station – or, God help me, hoping that Live 105 isn’t playing crap. Which can be fine by me.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
The sad thing is..
He doesn’t have anything to be an asshole about.
1) His job is talking to people on the radio and he gets paid really well.
2) He doesn’t know a damn thing about sports (baseball for sure).
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 23, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe he’s just mad that Kuiper doesn’t want to be his friend.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
I think he might have gone to the Pete Franklin school of broadcasting where treating people like poop gets people talking and there’s no such thing as bad publicity…either that or he’s just a dikc.
After hearing him make some anti-gay remarks on his show one night, I haven’t listened to him since.
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It's possible
that he does it for publicity.
Even so, it hasn’t served him well in keeping me listening.
And it hasn’t for you either.
Do you remember what particular things he said about gay people?
I’m asking because I want to hate him more.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 24, 2010 1:59 AM PST up reply actions
tonight's gem
I was unfortunate enough to make dinner tonight in the brief pregame between Ralph and Tom and the NBA Jam, so I got 10 minutes of the “don’t forget I’m changing stations” show with Dumbon.
Great quote (paraphrased): “Allen Iverson reminds me of Mike Tyson. One minute, the guy is talking complete nonsense; the next, he says something very deep and insightful and mindblowing.”
They’re really like twins, so much in common. 1050 is the luckiest station since Hiroshima!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t want this to get out, but I’ve been looking for a new front-page writer, and I…wait, I’ve said too much…
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 22, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather have your boss do the front page stories
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 22, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Llamas v Lamas! The Showdown!
I agree. Grant’s boss should be a mod with front-page privileges.
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That happens a lot
when listening to Diarrhea of the Mouth Damon
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Oh brother
KNBR is announcing two programming changes that will become effective next Monday, March 1.
KNBR personality Damon Bruce will take over the lead role and will be featured prominently on KNBR 1050, hosting the Noon-4pm time slot Monday through Friday, it was announced today by Operations Manager/Program Director Lee Hammer.
Concurrent with this move, KNBR 680 has signed F.P. Santangelo to host Sportsphone 680, weeknights from 7p-10p.
http://www.knbr.com/OnKNBR680/DamonBruce/tabid/597/Default.aspx
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Damon sucks so bad that even FP is an improvement
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 22, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
I live in Sacramento…. we don’t get 1050…
La-la-la-la-la-la….
FP’s annoying, but maybe now that he’s hired fulltime, they will make him actually improve hisself? Maybe he’ll only say “when I was a player…..” once or twice a night, instead of once or twice every 10 minutes?
yeah
I pretty much never bother to turn to 1050, so this is just fine.
Except that I actually listened to Bruno once in a great while and enjoy him… I guess Cumulus couldn’t afford him any more.
I don’t mind FP, particularly if it gets Mr. Second City the hell off my radio for good.
I wonder if FP is doing the postgame show, or will it stay with Flemming? If Dave does it, the FP haters can at least rest assured that he’ll miss much of the summer.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
FP needs a partner to take the piss out of him, but he’s actually fairly tolerable on talk radio.
The Rise Guys in Sacramento actually got much less entertaining after he left.
FU, FO
Yay!
I never listen to 1050.
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Yay, I never listen during the middle of the day so this perfect for me.
Also yay for me predicting FP!
Also boo for FP!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I also found it funny how he took a couple shots at KNBR people when he was making the announcement. He’s acting like he totally got fired. Last time I checked, he still has a job.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
thank god, now i get to listen to him for 4 hours, suck it guys! haha, plus i don’t have to stay up until 1 AM to listen to him
he's all yours dude
you’re closer to all that midwest shite he talks about anyway!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Ab: 385
Ave: .265
Obp: .325
Slg: 350
Defense: Your elbow can have all the bone chips in the world in it, and removing them won’t improve your range.
Uribe and [some utility player not named Frandsen] fill in at short until rosters expand, when Crawford rightfully takes his spot in Mays (in)Field.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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he was done even before this past year. i see the rest of his career panning out about as well as Larry Johnson’s has the past few years.
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 22, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wow, ever wonder why we don't ever see Juan Uribe interviews?
Check out the video on the bottom
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/landing?blockID=184175
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
He can play!
Phew!
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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 22, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Fog.
/palms forehead
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by victor frankenstein on Feb 23, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I’d usually say a .319 obp isn’t generous, but compared to his .307 last year it just might be.
But at least it’s still above .300 *cough*Bengie*cough*
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Feb 22, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
who knows, i might have to agree with some people here that with having the bone chips out of his arm that might help him. Anything can happen
Anything can happen
Maybe one of us will win the lotto and buy the Giants.
My first move as owner of the Giants would be to fire Sabean. Second would be to smash Zito’s guitar Animal House-style.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Feb 22, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
I agree having the mulch removed from his elbow might help him a little, but what really worried/bothered me about him was the way he played like he had just swallowed a bottle of methaqualone. Maybe he was popping gobs of vicodin to blunt the pain. I just hope he won’t look like he is playing baseball in a mercury bath.
who knows dude, i remember when i had bone chips in my knee, i couldn’t run at all, if i tried to there was so much pain!!
I hope you are right… and I went to medical school a long time ago, but I think I once learned that the knee joint affected one’s ability to run, while the elbow joint would probably not explain why a 33 year old man ran like he was 83 and really high.
I think you are correct, sir. Probably has much more to do with pain meds and a lack of athletic ability than with an injured elbow.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
this medicine checks out with me
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Where do these chips come from?
Does their absence weaken the source?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
I’m no orthopod, but they just come from the bones in the joint (most likely the humerus, I would guess here) and no, I would not expect the loss of these small fragments to weaken the remaining bone
Arthropod? Sauropod?
Hey, watch where you put those feet. Damn!
OK, srsly. Do bone chips happen spontaneously or as a result of a blow, i.e. external force?
“Paging Dr. Howard…Dr. Fine…Dr. Howard…”
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Paging Mr. Herman. Mr. Herman.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 23, 2010 5:57 AM PST up reply actions
OT
Prime 9 on MLB Network had the top 9 bloopers. At number 5???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ94rkwdTvQ
"meh"
I just watched that too
That never gets old, nor does Hoser bouncing a ball off his head.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
LOL Chris Haft, Professional Writer
Uribe saved the Giants’ in last year’s second half with his robust hitting when injuries sidelined second baseman Freddy Sanchez and shortstop Edgar Renteria. Just as importantly, his gregarious nature sustained clubhouse harmony. Uribe exchanged handshakes and hugs aplenty before strutting to his locker.
Aside from how cloying and cliché that all is, that’s apostrophe abuse right there in the first sentence.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
also, his scenarios for how Uribe may still be on the bench even while Sanchez is hurt make me cry
— If Bochy wants a speedier lineup and plays Emmanuel Burriss at second or Eugenio Velez at second or in left field (with DeRosa again occupying second base in the latter scenario).
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Every time a writer or member of the Giants’ management mentions Velez starting, I cry a little inside. And sometimes on the outside too.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Also Burriss
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
burris gotta go
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Feb 22, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
STOP THE BLEEDING GIANTS BRASS!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 23, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
055/055/055.
But only about half as much as I do.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Bouncing back!
But only to 2008:
AB: 503
AVG: .270
OBP: .317
SLG: .382
HR: 10
Oy.
Giants = Playoffs in 2010
Everyone’s hating on Huff and DeRosa cuz you guys still think Bowker/Lewis are Bonds/Mays. They SUCK. You’re all Randy Winn sympathizers too!! Huff’s 22 HR’s in ‘10 are better than Winn’s 2HR’s in 600AB’s in ’09.
I’m actually excited about 2010 cuz we actually have a REAL lineup. I bet even if we get to the playoffs this year, you’re all still gonna HATE on everyone. Haters!!
Add me on PS3. My PSN: Aztec_MC
by Aztec_MC on Feb 22, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
AWESOME MOVIE!!!!!
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 22, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
This
Is one of the greatest things ever. I love it.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
well
turn it green with GINATS PRIDE
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Go GIants
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
LOL
Oh, Captain Haddock: you are always spewing your drunken wisdom.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Captain Haddock
would be a great MLB manager
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
It would be worth it just to hear his rants.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Thank you sir
For the literal LOL.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Theres Randy Winn sympathizers here?
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Feb 22, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Wanna bet?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
I’m actually excited about 2010 cuz we actually have a REAL lineup.
Nah. Still looks like a AAA lineup.
Winn’s 2HR’s in 600AB’s in ’09
Didn’t you hear? winn was unrated last year. That was his problem.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
I feel bad for him
what with going to the World Series next year and all. Plus the money. Yeah, Wynn deserves our sympathy.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Huff’s 22 HR’s in ‘10 are better than Winn’s 2HR’s in 600AB’s in ’09.
I like how you’ve already assigned him 22 HRs for 2010.
He had 15 last year. He’s only reached 22 once in four years.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Outrage?
Uribe: Avg.289 OBP.329 SLG.495 OPS .824 plus Dingerz 16….122 Games
Renteria: Avg.250 OBP.307 SLG.328 OPS .635 Dingerz 5…..124 Games
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
Luego, adonde va Renteria?
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 22, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
OT. Im writing my Junior thesis about the Negro Leagues, but I need an actual thesis statment. Ideas?
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 22, 2010 6:44 PM PST reply actions
“The people who developed the Negro Leagues were bitter, anti-African racists, as shown by their use of the word ‘Negro.’”
That’s about 10 pages worth of material if you play your cards right.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 22, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
I would focus on the ballpark food!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 22, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
It was delicious.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
This is something you have to do in high school?
man, I’m glad I got out of there when it was still dumbed down.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
You’re surprised that writing a paper with a thesis statement is something you have to do in high school!?
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Not all high schools incorporate thesis statements into their writing. It’s a sad, sad educational world.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
enh
I hate thesis statements and five paragraph essays. Fuck ‘em. That’s an arbitrary and lame way to write. One of the best things about leaving high school was avoiding all the stupid ideas it teaches about how you supposedly have to write an essay.
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by jcb9 on Feb 22, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's all foundational
I just assume that we were supposed to gravitate away from that rigid structure and kind of come up with our own styles
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Wow, if you’re a good writer who can pull it off, sure, but a lot of the high school essays I’ve read (I do some grading on the side) sure as hell aren’t good enough to pull off a coherent essay without using a thesis and five paragraphs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Also
I don’t care too much about five paragraph structure, but imo, theses (or, at least, having a coherent argument and expressing it early on in the paper) are pretty damn important.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, you want to have some central idea or unifying structure, of course – but the notion that you have to have a thesis statement that’s explicitly stated in once sentence that comes at the end of your introductory sentence – I’m not such a fan of that.
There is also a general notion – or at least there was among some of my teachers in high school – that this very strictly defined five paragraph essay, with topic and concluding sentences, an introductory paragraph ending with the thesis statement, three supporting paragraphs, and a concluding paragraph that restates and wraps up the essay, is the only way to properly write an essay. And that’s BS.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah, that’s definitely BS. BUT I think it’s a good, generic structure for people to follow if they struggle at writing coherent essays.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I suppose so
But when I went to college and wrote an essay that didn’t have a single explicitly stated thesis statement, and it came out really well, and I got a good grade, it was a beautiful day!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
There’s a time and a place for that. It’s called college.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 22, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm all for individual writing style and panache and whatnot
all of which is usually a lot more effective when performed after learning how to write well in the old boring generic structures.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think I agree with this mostly. It sucks for high school writers who actually know what they’re doing, but a lot of students don’t have any practice organizing their thoughts in a way that develops anything more than a rambling diatribe. A large part of it to my mind is teaching students why it’s important to actually have organized thought more than it actually is to teach you how to organize your thoughts.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
I side with this view. I think people have to be taught a structure and rules, then they can learn to deviate from it. The best writing often does not use a traditional structure, but I think the same goes for some of the worst writing.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 22, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
I also come from a family of educators – many of them English teachers – so these are discussions we’ve had millions of times, and ones we all get very self-righteous about. :)
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m (hopefully) a future English teacher too, so these are good discussions :)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Go Jprawny
maybe to another state though :(
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
I may be going in that direction myself. Hopefully on the college level. High school is something I’m happy to have left in the past.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m going HIGH SCHOOL, at least at first.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I thought I wanted to teach at the junior college level. Got a master’s in my field and everything; however… I know now that I do not have the patience to teach the 17-25 year old demographic. At least when my current students screw up they have an excuse: they are four and they don’t know any better. Some of the crap I see [and hear about] that goes on at the community college level… let’s just say that I’m glad I didn’t pursue that career path with a lot of energy.
I’ve been spending a lot of time in high school classrooms the past few months (and difficult high school classrooms too), so I think I have a decent idea of what it will be like. But I don’t doubt that it’ll be pretty tough and probably very trying of my patience. I’m looking forward to getting started on the Credential/Master’s process though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I've had a couple friends
get very frustrated with the whole “piece together a fulltime job from several parttime gigs” aspect of CC teaching.
At least at the HS level you would get benefits and (usually) would not have to hunt for hours at schools all over the place.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I’d like to teach writing. Hooray me!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
I have a Masters Degree in creative writing. Hooray?
It’s an MA, not a MFA. In a way that’s actually LESS practical – it’s not a terminal degree, and a lot of plays that hire writing professors prefer MFAs. But it does set me up to go back for a PhD, which I’ll hopefully be doing in the fall. Still waiting to hear back from the programs I applied to. Grumble.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m waiting to hear about whether or not I’ll be able to get an MFA. The applications are out and there’s nothing I can do but wait at this point. I forgot how scary it was to not know if you’re accepted yet.
ohgodihopeigetin.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
well, sure
Okay, I know this sounds arrogant as hell, but it’s true: I’m really good at writing essays. It’s just something I do very well. The same was true in high school, and it was really frustrating to have those constraints.
Then there was also my high school English teacher who announced we weren’t allowed to use semi-colons because she didn’t think any of us knew how to. Drove me crazy.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Man do I wish I was good at essays. I would just end up repeating the same things over and over again. Maybe that’s why I gravitated towards all the creative writing classes instead.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Well, these things aren’t mutually exclusive – a lot of the creative writing courses I took in college and grad school were creative nonfiction/personal essay classes!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
True true. Let’s put it this way: I wasn’t taking the creative non-fiction classes.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
fair enough!
Those were some of my favorites, personally.
I’m actually thinking of writing a memoir, actually. Well, I have ideas for two working their way through my head at the moment. I haven’t actually gotten off my ass to do anything about either, though. Plus I still haven’t finished even a first draft of the novel I was working on last year. That was set in Oakland, and once it became clear we were leaving the Bay Area, writing it just became too damned depressing.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
You should do it, man. I would love to read it if you do write it. I wrote a novella for my senior “thesis” and it was an intensely gratifying experience. I mean, it wasn’t fun writing six to eight hours a day for the last month, but it was very satisfying to finish it and get it bound. I really haven’t had time to write since then, though, what with med school and all. Maybe one day I’ll get around to writing the road-trip novel I’ve been longing to write.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
My senior thesis in college was a collection of short stories set in New York the year after September 11th. One of the stories actually evolved into the basis for that novel I haven’t finished. Except, as I said, it’s set in Oakland now. Also, its sort of post-apocalyptic magical realism or something like that. wheee.
I’m pretty bad at actually finishing things, unfortunately.
The big thing I’ve actually been working on lately is a sort of encyclopedia of a science fiction world I first made up as a little kid. It’s been evolving in my mind ever since, and some years back I found a program called VoodooPad, which is sort of like a word processor for wikis – you highlight any text and create a link, and it creates a new article with that text as the title. Any time you write that text anywhere, it automatically links to the article. So I had the idea of basically doing a made-up Wikipedia-type thing for the world.
I have about 650 articles in it at this point, though a lot of them are pretty short/incomplete. I dip in and out of it from time, and jump all over the place within the world while I’m working on it. It’s something I can’t imagine anyone else will ever want to read, but it’s something I enjoy, and it’s something I can work on now, as I don’t have a lot of time to concentrate on anything.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Wait
Post-apocalyptic magical realism in Oakland? Fantastic. Sign me up for that. And your current project sounds pretty awesome, too. The only thing worthwhile I’ve written lately is a short about a guy who talks to his washing machine. Actually, I think it was his dryer. In any case, that’s it for the last three years, which is somewhat depressing. Maybe after residency I’ll have the opportunity to put some more time into my writing. I could even work on stuff in the OR while the surgeon is doing his thing!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yeah, but you aren’t everyone. I’m really good at essays too and I grew out of that rigid structure early on, but a LOT of people can’t write coherently at all especially these days (especially based on what I saw of some of the essays my classmates wrote in college) and I think trying to get them to use the structure works pretty well. That said, I guess I was lucky enough that my high school English teacher didn’t try to force me to use it once I advanced past it – teachers who make hard and fast rules of “NO SEMICOLONS!” “NO BREAKING THE MOLD!” suck. But I do think you should have to prove you are good enough.
Of course, most of them are about as convinced as you are that they don’t need it, even though they really, really do. (I do believe you that you are probably a good enough writer to be coherent without a thesis/five paragraph structure of course – I have read quite a bit of your stuff!)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
When I read my old essays, I really don’t know how I got the grades I did. Structurally (and I mean that on a sentence level) they were a fucking mess. Runs ons. Typos. Too many commas.
It’s a damn good thing I was a good thinker. I always got notes saying “clean up your writing, because it’s a fucking mess, but here’s an A.”
Really, it was just because I always shotgunned my writing and never proofed it. Man, the hubris of youth.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I am always embarrassed by how bad I think my high school writing is now. I always have to remind myself, “Dude, you were 15.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
There are some stories I wrote in high school that I thought were hot shit that I can’t look at anymore.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The story that I sent in for my writing sample was one that I wrote in college. When I was rewriting it for the sample, I couldn’t believe how bad it was. It was really depressing. Like, it was really, really bad. I think the rewrite preserved a grant total of 45 words from the original 18 page draft. All of the feedback I’ve gotten on the rewrite has been positive, so it must be better.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
It’s amazing how one’s perspective on these kinds of things changes. I feel the same way about my thesis… I wrote a novel back, well, eons ago, after college. I don’t dare look at that train wreck again.
I think that actually looking at the train wreck almost taught me more about the value of the draft process than anything else I’ve done. Completely rewriting 18 pages… completely deleting thousands of words that I’d previously poured my heart into… having that feeling that my skills were completely worthless, but at the same time seriously examining why I sucked so much the first time through… I learned to spend time on a single sentence… I learned to read the words out loud to myself… it’s a painfully rewarding process. It’s hard, though. It really sucks knowing that you’ve created something unquestionably terrible. But it’s pretty cool learning that you’re capable of fixing it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
When I was in college I wrote the first chapter for a novel I never finished:
A drugged-out guy, a year or two removed from high school and rapidly working his way to dying in a pool of his own vomit despite being very smart, stumbles home one evening to find two people he knew from high school sleeping in a car by his house – a guy his age and a sixteen year old girl. He participated in the Academic Decathlon with the guy, who he spent a lot of time with but always disliked. The girl is someone’s younger sister, who the guy in the car has been obsessed with and stalked for years. The drugged out guy wakes them up and freaks out – and the guy in the car forces him inside at gunpoint. We learn that the guy in the car, while at the end of his mental health rope, abducted the girl from her home at gunpoint, and then panicked and drove to the drugged-out guy’s house, because somehow, he’d know what to do.
The drugged out guy, almost pissing himself in fear, gets in the car, and the guy in the car drives off, two prisoners in tow.
That’s the end of the first chapter, and that’s all I wrote.
I reread it recently, and I was actually surprised that it was GOOD. Mostly I write stuff that’s obsessively introspective and earnest, but it was funny and lively and the characters are right there in the first chapter. It has a lot of potential, but I haven’t worked on it for eight years.
Yet another thing I should pick back up…
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
SHOW OFF!
There was actually one story I wrote, also in college, that I reread while I was depressed about the awful version of my other story. It’s a fairly ambitious story that spans something like 35 years from the late 1950s to the ‘90s, about a man who is being judged for his sins after dying. The judge is his wife, who spend most of those 35 years having an affair (that he knew about) because she was unfulfilled in her marriage. There are two sides to the evidence that she has – one is what actually happened in their lives, and the other is what would have happened in their lives if he hadn’t been such a sinful bastard. It deals with a lot of ideas that I’m fascinated by, and it’s a story that I plan on revisiting as soon as I realistically can (since it’s easily the longest thing I’ve written and might ultimately be a novelette, it’ll be a while, but the story excites me nonetheless).
One of the things that kept me going through my agonizing redraft was looking at that story and seeing that long sections of it were actually good. It gave me that heartened feeling that I actually did have a little bit of talent to work with.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I was smart enough not to save any of my high school essays. I don’t think I could stomach reading seven pages trying to explain why Dante was trying to write The New Bible.
What was I thinking in high school…?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Basically every college paper I wrote was in the five paragraph style. I agree that it’s completely arbitrary and can be very limiting. On the other hand, the five paragraph style should make it easy to deduce what is being written about. Pluses and minuses. I agree with bae, though, that the trick is finding your own voice within the framework and making it work for you. I tried several times to write lit analysis in other styles and was completely frustrated each time.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I think the thing for me is that I can’t even tell you what style I write essays in. I can only really organize my thoughts for these kinds of things when I write very intuitively. Luckily for me, my brain seems to magically organize my essays into something coherent – otherwise I’d be screwed.
I also got into trouble in high school because a lot of teachers required you do outlines as part of the process, which really never worked for me. I was hopeless at that – the only way I can really discover what it is that I’m writing about is to actually sit down and DO it.
Which is atypical, I suppose, so really, high school English shouldn’t have been geared towards teaching me. The trouble for me was that it seemed actively geared at preventing me from writing anything decent. It was frustrating. College was much better, because they just told you to write an essay and then you went and did it however you damn well chose.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Ugh… I hated writing outlines.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
I loved drawing outlines!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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no, not that
he said “Junior Thesis” which to me implies a big paper.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Ah. Well, anyway, I had one of those in high school too! Mine was about the political situation in Indonesia (this being just before the Suharto regime fell), with a brutal, genocidal military dictatorship in power and American companies exploiting the cheap labor and using the military to keep workers in line. Hooray.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
What's your argument?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
how about
something offbeat, like desegregation of the minors? Or of spring training?
I recall good stories in Hank Aaron’s book about being the first black player in the Sally League. One of the teams in that league was the Charleston Rebels. There’s a bit on the Braves SB board here:
http://www.talkingchop.com/2009/4/29/858774/8-times-hank-aaron-faced-racism-3
A little more intense than tea parties in Montreal.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Im thinking how the negro leagues affected the Civil Rights movement. I could argue that the Negro Leagues were a stepping stone for black ballplayers and therefore a stepping stone for African-Americans in general.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 22, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
A stepping stone toward....?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
“Back in the time of the Negro Leagues, there was racism in America.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I like how the caption said he was “dancing” in the rain.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
BA: .261
OBP: .315
SLG: .362
HR: 4
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions
Why must his hands always be in his pants?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Feb 22, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Good way to keep your hands warm.
Among other things
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Feb 22, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
in Arizona?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
The recent weather has been most unArizonan, 'specially in the mornings.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
I really enjoyed last year’s Renteria thread for reasons that have little to do with Edgar Renteria.
I still maintain that Walk on the Wildside is Lou Reed’s worst song by a lengthy measure.
FU, FO
Are you including Metal Machine Music in this?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
i agree with this question
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Nice Baggs article on Jonathan
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/02/22/1152305/sanchez-maturing-before-giants.html
The Giants also have considered lining up Lincecum, Sanchez and Cain for the opening series at Houston. So there’s no guarantee Sanchez will draw the home opener at AT&T Park. But if he does, expect the Giants to free up a tough ticket. Sanchez’s father, Sigfredo, plans to be there.
\O/
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
no hitter again!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OMG JINX WTF
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 23, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
Nice article. How do you find this stuff? Kentucky.com?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
It’s on the other Knight Ridder newspaper sites now, too. :)
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14451154
http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports-headlines/ci_14451191
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Your article is ready, Michael.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 22, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
This made me LOL given the topic of this thread.
According to Fangraphs, Sanchez threw 21 percent sliders in 2009 – almost twice the frequency from the previous year – and dominated with the pitch. Thinking back, he only remembered one well-located slider that resulted in a hit.
“Hunter Pence in Houston,” Sanchez said. “Beat out a groundball to shortstop.”
Gee wonder how Hunter Pence beat out a grounder to SS.
This thread is good for a great opening week from Renteria. That’s about it. Grant’s last years open letter thread is still pretty funny to read.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 22, 2010 8:12 PM PST reply actions
“Just let him play. It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis, but when you’ve got a guy as distinguished as Edgar, he deserves to have the starting job.” – bruce bochy
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
funny
It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis
You mean like Fred? JACKASS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm back for more cash
150/200/300
Sorry, he’s done. And I continue to be annoyed that he’s on this team
BTW, big ups to mlb.tv for grandfathering us previous subscribers in for a cheaper price. Boo yah.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I take it, then, that mlb.tv’s prices are up? Joy. Just in time for me to need it!
Looking there, I see you have to pay $20 extra to choose the home or away broadcast. That sucks. Though I guess I could always just listen to the radio feed for away games. In a lot of ways I like the radio better anyway.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
is the Audio
available separately still?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. Much cheaper.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Awesome
I’m ditching Extra Innings this year because of all the blackouts; I figure the audio will be better than nothing.
All the preseason links led only to the MLBTv packs so I got worried there. Thanks for the info.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
hmm. Now that I look, clicking on the link to subscribe from the Gameday Audio page does just take you to the MLB.tv page. That’s not good.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
OT: Wow, i just have been put on judicial hold with the school… for illegally trying to obtain a federal loan
yeah
you can only get those if you are banks now.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I am banks now.
Money please?
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
in all seriousness, I hope that’s just some glitch, and not something else.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
yea dude, i mean, i didn’t do anything, i was already on a loan, i’m a senior in college, so we’ve been doing the same thing for every year, so yea it might be a glitch
You’re talking about loans that you got through FAFSA, no? If that’s the case, I can only imagine that somebody else screwed up and you’ll be fine.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
yep, pretty much, they said i forged my moms signature, because she passed away August of 2008, so hence i applied for a loan in 2009-10 and i had my moms signature on that too… i had no idea that’s what happened
belatedly sorry about your mom
I guess that’s just federal condolences in action.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm… well, I have no idea how that kind of thing could work. You said that you don’t handle your FAFSA. I’ve always done my own so I don’t remember if there’s a “preparer” option, but does that mean you had a “preparer” who you had to sign off on to do it for you? Or did you just have somebody do it pretending to be you?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
well, it was my dad that signs all the papers and stuff, i just sign the papers where i have to sign, make sense? But basically the deal is, i’m appealing today, and i got a notice when i asked for copies of the allegation it said "you are dismissed from Miami university as of Feburary 19th
I see. It doesn’t make sense that your dad would pull some weird stunt on the loan process, so I’m sure there’s a simple and favorable outcome in your future for all this. It’s unfortunate that you have to deal with it, but as long as you go through with the appeal I’m sure it’ll be fine.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
yea, i mean, i don’t even know he actually did that. But yea i agree, i’ll be good, all it is, is stuff that you just don’t need when you got work to do, like i got stuff to do, and this is just unwanted noise
I think that it’s pretty universal that student loans get fucked up somehow for everyone. When my oldest sister first applied for student loans, the university checked the records against my grandfather’s name because my dad is a Junior (which they conveniently omitted). Now, my grandpa had some money, so the school was like “Fuck you guys, this money shouldn’t belong to you.”
We’ve had other problems with financial aid since then, too. It’s a necessary service, but it appears to be administratively fucked on a pretty universal level. I know Baron’s had her share of FA problems, too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
wow, yea, it almost seems like the school just loves taking money from you, and they’ll get it whatever way possible. And i totally agree that pretty much this happens alot all over the place, i know that i’ll get through it, but damn, some of these schools just love to fuck with you and get what they want, it pays to go to school in more ways than one
I doubt if they’re even trying to actively cheat you. I just think they’re not very good at the whole “keeping track of shit” thing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
especially at private schools
where basically the whole student body is getting some kind of loan or scholarship or something.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
well, miami’s a public school, a state school… and i agree, they’re just not very good at the keeping track of it… but i’m going in at 3 PM to talk to her about it
good luck
I thought it was private! Although if you’re out of state I guess it doesn’t matter. Anyway go get them!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
thanks man, appreciate it… right now i’m going to have to write an appeal by March 1st, i got an attorney to help me, and right now we’ll have to wait, but i just think it’s bullshit that I am getting kicked out of school for something my dad did…
that's nuts
does “suspension” mean you have to take current classes over? I forget if you said you were quarter or semester, but either way that really bites.
Or are they letting you stay in pending the March 1 thing? As you said earlier, not much of a motivator to do well.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
As I’ve done a number of FAFSAs for people (and without knowing all the details), I’m guessing what happened is your mom’s PIN (aka electronic signature) was used on the FAFSA after she died. Unless, that is, everything was done by hand rather than electronically, in which case I have no idea how it would happen that she signed it after she died.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 23, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
That actually sounds extremely likely.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
I posted this in another thread, but it's still relevant
From a recent Baggs article, regarding Juan Uribe’s play time:
"But … performance always dictates playing time, and so will our injury situation. So it’s hard to answer right now." -Bruce Bochy
From today’s SFGate article, regarding Edgar Renteria’s starting job:
"Just let him play. It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis, but when you’ve got a guy as distinguished as Edgar, he deserves to have the starting job." -Bruce Bochy
That’s it. Right there. He basically just said that if Renteria isn’t injured, he will start over Juan Uribe to start the season, and probably for a while afterwards regardless of actual preformance. The reason?
"I think you look at what Edgar’s accomplished in his career. He’s a winner. He was in the World Series. He got the game-winning hit. I know you don’t live on yesterday’s headlines. But I think Edgar is a leader on the club, in the clubhouse, and he certainly deserves a chance to show what he can do when he’s healthy." -Bruce Bochy
None of that has to do with his actual performance on the field. If he’s healthy he will play. Even if he is underperforming and we have other options, he will play.
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
Even if he is underperforming and we have other options, he will play.
You write that like there is a chance that he will not underperform.
To me, that is optimism of the highest order :D
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 9:24 PM PST reply actions
Seriously?
Just let him play. It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis, but when you’ve got a guy as distinguished as Edgar, he deserves to have the starting job.
This information conflicts with the way Botch is handling the Velez/Bowker/Posey situations.
"when you’ve got a guy as distinguished as Edgar"
veteraness trumps this.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
even when he's not really a veteran, just old
to wit, Eli Whiteside
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
The only thing distinguished about Edgar
is his small tail.
by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
the hell you say
he’s FBAL!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Edgar's Not Getting Better
Someone needs to post last year’s preseason projections. I actually think I am being too optimistic. Edgar in 2010:
AB 402
R 46
H 96
2B 21
3B 1
HR 4
RBI 45
AVG. .239
BB 30
HBP 5
SF 4
OBP .297
SLG. .326
OPS .623
SB 3
CS 4
hey slacker
If you are going to take the time to make projections you should at least include day/night splits, home/away splits, Grandslams against the dodgers, and RBI’s on days Cain pitches. There is no excuse for half hearted projections around here.
I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.
ahahaha
And tonight’s Goofus Award goes to…
“I’d rather bury it than hang it.” – Timmeh
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Does anyone tell Bochy and Sabes that they are contradicting themselves on almost a daily basis now?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Even I am not really old enough to get this reference.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Nixon's cronies.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 23, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
E-Rent predict.
AB: 473
BA: .273
OBP: .329
SLG: .361
HR: 7
Defense: Badequate
I think by September he will lose playing time to Burriss or perhaps DeRosa who ends up playing a bit at short
If he’s so bad that he’d give up playing time to Burriss, it wouldn’t wait until September.
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My predicts showing him around a .690 OPS, so I don’t think he’d justify giving up playing time to Burriss too much.
Burriss gotta go from the minors to the majors to take playing time away from Renteria.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Burriss will never be on the Giants 25-man roster again.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
AB: 420
BA: .300
OBP: .357
SLG: .420
HR: 11
Defense: Horrible
By all means, ask me what I’m on. I warn you, I won’t remember.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
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Get me soy sauce and artificially colored powdered horseradish paste, stat!
Either I eat him or he eats me.
JUST A CITY BOY
This website brings me so much joy.
Dodger Divorce
A Durhamesque bounce back in the walk year of his contract...
AB: 429
AVG: .268
OBP: .322
SLG: .387
HR: 7
$10.5M option picked up?: Until it’s not, I will be afraid…
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
loldurhamesque
Renteria’s Ray Durham impression is pretty pathetic.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
So was Durham’s impression of Durham.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Durham was a very, very good player for the Giants. Not pathetic at all.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed. And I was trying to be snarky, which lost the gist of my point:
After an injury-plagued season in which he had abysmal hitting numbers, Durham bounced back in the last year of his contract and had a decent, solid season for the Giants before being dealt at the deadline to the Brewers for Darren Ford and some other pitcher who I can’t remember. And everyone was bitching and moaning all the time about how horrible Durham was, how much he was overpaid, and how he was always injured. But, starting in the offseason after he left, people actually looked at the numbers (which were actually pretty good, with shaky defense) and the vitriol gradually turned into, “Huh. Wow. I guess Ray was actually a decent Giant.” Which was correct.
I’m predicting a similar situation here for Renterria (albeit, with worse numbers overall) – next year. When we’re starting Brandon Crawford and he’s struggling to get to the Mendoza line, people will actually look back at the 2010 Renterria numbers and say, “Huh. Renterria was actually pretty good in his last year as a Giant.”
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Ah. That is a many-layered inference you were making. Too many layers, perhaps, for a clean one-liner.
I get what you’re saying.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 24, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Steve Hammond!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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A pessimist is an optimist in full possession of the facts
AB: 250
AVG: .259
OBP: .305
SLG: .344
HR: 5
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Baseball America Top 100 Prospects
- Buster Posey
- Madison Bumgarnger
#49-Zach Wheeler - Thomas Neal
Wow no idea how that happened.
7. Buster Posey
14. Madison Bumgarner
49. Zach Wheeler
96. Thomas Neal
SBN does some really bizarre autoformat stuff that annoys a lot of people and nobody actually uses.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
1) Yes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
- Wait…
oh, got it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Oh hey Fred Lewis!
“I’m in the best shape of my life,‘’ Lewis said. "I couldn’t wait to get here.’’
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
well, here's the rest
Outfielder Fred Lewis spent the off-season in Mississippi working out under the direction of his now-retired father. After struggling last season, Lewis wanted to get back to basics, something he couldn’t do if he played winter ball. He bought a pitching machine like the one used by the Giants and hit a million balls. He used the pitching machine to shoot fly balls to him out on his old high school field, directing his father to change the angles and velocity to hone his skills. He ran sprints and ran the bases with the intention of stealing more this year. He arrived at camp early, too. Position players aren’t required to be in camp until Tuesday. "I’m in the best shape of my life,‘’ Lewis said. "I couldn’t wait to get here.’’
http://sfgiants.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/02/notes_from_scottsdale.html
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
All that work
For 150 PA’s throughout the year
D:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
He bought a pitching machine like the one used by the Giants and hit a million balls.
Wow. I’m choosing to take that literally.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
hit a million balls.
The Giants got through to him! He’s finally swinging more aggressively, not talking walks!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
They’re not balls if they’re thrown in your expanded strike zone.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
We will eventually have a Juggernate version of this photo. It is only a matter of time.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
That’s pretty amazing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I remember when Benny Agbayani was the Filipino claim to fame in MLB.
In a completely separate statement, I love Tim Lincecum.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Feb 23, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I remember when Agbayani killed the Giants in the 2000 playoffs and a local newspaper (the Merc I think) had a “Benny and the Mets” headline for the sports section.
The scars haven’t completely healed yet.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on Feb 23, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
I remember a Mets fan seriously and earnestly arguing that Benny Agbayani was better than Roberto Alomar and that the fact that the Mets signed Alomar but let Agbayani walk emblematic of everything wrong with the Mets.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
hit a million balls.
The AJ Pierzynski training method!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
On a recent Baseball America podcast, they talked about how Jason Castro projected as an AJ Pierzynski type who “took more walks and isn’t an asshole.”
I guess its not only Giants fans who hate him!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Breaking News:
Taking more walks liked to being less of an asshole by Baseball America.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Well he is, objectively speaking, a major league asshole after all…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 23, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
He’s sounding like a good soldier now!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The Giants are carrying their own individual bag of disappointment
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms
Beat other games based on literature by 25 years or so…
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
DYNASTY WARRIORS
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
To Kill a Mockingbird: While having Boo Radley as a playable character might be fun, legal drama has never worked in a video game.
This person has not done their research. There has been an extremely popular and quite visible series of games over the last five years that revolve around legal drama. PHOENIX WRIGHT, YO!
And the very idea that you would have to actively reject the idea of a Catcher in the Rye or On the Road video game is dumb. Nobody would ever make those games.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Hey guys! I just got the Catcher in the Rye video game! It’s so cool, you get to run around and…..um………
Hey guys, I’ve been playing On the Road: San Andreas all week! Apparently there’s a glitch you can use to access some pretty wild sex gameplay, but I haven’t been able to unlock it yet.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Ernest Hemingway Video Games
That is just a goldmine waiting to be discovered!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 23, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Hills Like White Elephants is a hit just waiting to be made.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
that was an awesome game
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Pete’s a year late with his video game news.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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OT: Manny Ramirez still a douchebag
One day after creating a national firestorm by saying this would be his final season with the Dodgers, Manny Ramirez seemed amused at the reaction his comment received. As he walked across the team’s spring-training clubhouse toward his locker, he saw a couple of reporters standing nearby and told them he had changed his mind.
“After I practiced yesterday, I feel like I could play five more years,‘’ he said. "I’m going to play three more years here, then two more in Japan.’’
…
On Tuesday, Ramirez clearly seemed to enjoy some good-natured gamesmanship with the media, creating the impression that he might have known exactly what he was doing when he uttered his widely scrutinized statement.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
So first was Nate (RF) then Rent (SS) following this erratic pattern the next projection should be for?
Sanchez (DL)
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
Grant is doing this alphabetically by position, starting with RF. So obviously the order is:
SS
1B
2B
3B
CF
LF
P
/gets Huff projections ready
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
It’s an economy move…they can use one jersey with R. Ortiz on the back, the players can trade off on the days they are scheduled to play.
His and Hers R. Oritz
Only in fucking sewerland
by E Ticket on Feb 23, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
OT: just an FYI and this is from what i said earlier, i have been “dismissed” from Miami University if i don’t submit an appeal by March 1st or don’t have it approved. I think it’s kinda funny, but mostly just in shock
Damn, good luck.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
I hope you don’t get offended but I’m hearing Colonel Klink saying ‘Pikaaaa…. dissssmissed!’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 23, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think he knows who Colonel Klink is.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I’m getting that idea… 30 days in the cooler for him I guess.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 24, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
I'm getting higher baby
285/340/400
I’m pretending last year never happened.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
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