Community Projections: Nate Schierholtz
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 19, 2010 10:48 AM PST
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PrintIt’s time for the McCovey Chronicles Community Projection series, or as insiders call it, MacChroCommPros. We’ll look back at how right we were last year, and we’ll continue to be right with our new projections for the coming season. We’re all so damned smug and self-satisfied. It’s awesome. Of course, we’re usually wrong. Very wrong. Doesn’t mean that it isn’t fun, though.
The first player up is Nate Schierholtz, who went to Tijuana to get a fake driver’s license in the offseason so the front office would think he’s 31 and in the prime of his career. His new name is "Pierce Scandalous," and he’s probably the starter in right field.
Bully for him. And I guess some credit goes to the Giants’ front office for putting an unproven player in the lineup when they could have totally papered over the lineup with free agent veterans.
So why can’t get rid of these Lance Niekro vibes? Youngish hacker starts because of an organizational need; hearts break around the Bay Area by May. Sounds familiar. One thing that’s in Schierholtz’s favor -- and it’s a huge part of his overall value -- is he can play a fantastic right field. He’s quick, he reads the ball well off the bat, and he can throw Johnny Damon farther than Johnny Damon can throw a baseball. And it isn’t just a strong arm; it’s also freaky accurate.
Another point in Schierholtz’s favor: the projection systems all see something in his minor league statistical profile that hints at a decent-enough bat. Of course, the six-room, DARPA supercomputer that is responsible for ZiPS might be sentient, but I don’t think it’s seen Schierholtz twice swing at a pitch that eventually hits him. That might account for the disparity. But take a look at these:
ZiPS: .289/.325/.459, 11 HR, 425 ABPECOTA: .291/.329/.473, 11 HR, 371 AB
Bill James: .288/.325/.459, 7 HR, 257 AB
CHONE: .286/.325/.457, 11 HR, 398 AB
It’s not like those are predicting Schierholtz to be an All-Star, but that kind of hitter would have been quite welcome on last year’s team. Combined with his defense, which by accounts anecdotal and statistical is fantastic, it adds up to a very nice right fielder.
Maybe it’s because, as you’ll see, I was far, far, too optimistic about a lot of Giants before last season, but I’m not sure if I can buy into this idea until Schierholtz shows anything resembling a decent approach at the plate. I’ll need to know that Schierholtz knows that he needs to address his flaws.
I've just been over-anxious, over-aggressive. In the minor leagues, you can get away with that. Here, they scout you.
Oh, words. You’ve let me down before, but I’m going to trust you one more time. I’m also assuming that Schierholtz is in the best shape of his life, too. If you can’t trust spring fluff pieces, what can you trust?
Nate Schierholtz:
AB: 489
BA: .278
OBP: .320
SLG: .449
HR: 15
Starter in 2011: Yes
Last year’s projection: N/A (I didn’t make one public. The unreleased one I made had Schierholtz hitting .267/.302/.400 in 308 at-bats, with a wRC+ of 81.)
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I project that he will be bald within the next 5 years…
by WTF on Feb 19, 2010 10:52 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
TWMMS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what Mickey Morandini said?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Does he have a robotic dog?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Milt May?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Mickey Mantle?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Manny Mota?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Melvin Mora?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Mini Me?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Modest Mouse!
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Marilyn Monroe?
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Marty Marion
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
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Mighty Mouse
Eli Whiteside : Catching no-no's and hitting grand slams
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Mustapha Mond
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Mister Maggoo
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Mary Magdalene
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 21, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Millen?
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 21, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Morris
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Feb 21, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Marian McPartland
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 21, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Mitch Miller
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 21, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Martz
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
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Miguel Montero
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 21, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Oh for crying out loud, I was talking about Mega Man.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
It’s not what I meant, but I can’t say no to Mon Mothma. I’m part Bothan, after all.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
my 7 year old son just schooled me a few days ago about Mon Mothma being a female.
He got his lego minifig and showed me that it featured lipstick for proof.
Oh it was. The lipstick was on her labia. Bothans go crazy for that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Do they also go crazy for bacon?
Yes, that’s a bacon lampshade right there..
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
WTF
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
The repetition is awesome. I think I’ll just start copying other people’s posts verbatim. But only on topic ones.
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BTW...
The repetition is awesome. I think I’ll just start copying other people’s posts verbatim. But only on topic ones.
Not sure it's been mentioned yet, but
The repetition is awesome. I think I’ll just start copying other people’s posts verbatim. But only on topic ones.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Seriously.
The repetition is awesome. I think I’ll just start copying other people’s posts verbatim. But only on topic ones.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
You should really check the timestamp on that post.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
This should really be the new site tagline
McCovey Chronicles – A San Francisco Giants Blog. The repitition is awesome.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Yeah but
the repetition is awesome.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
The repetition is most definitely awesome.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Beat me to it.
I was gonna say he doesn’t need a fake ID to look 31, he just needs to take off his hat.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
leading off
Shierholtz should both lead off and hit 7th. Is that against the rules?
If you can't sign a hitter to play in China Basin, trade a pitcher for a hitter and then sign another pitcher... why is that such a difficult concept to grasp?
There is no spoon, there are no rules.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Tim should be the 1st/3rd/5th starter.
Thank you.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
AB: 424
BA: 270
OBP: 315
SLG: 445
10 HRs
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST reply actions
Nice OBP, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
heimy 25: “TWSS!”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Sadly, I would be ecstatic with those numbers.
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Really eye-opening to watch Buster Posey take BP. Bat control + power.
by sadison bummedgarner on Feb 19, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions
Man, too bad he’s such a terrible receiver. The Giants could use bat control and power.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Who will bring the RIB EYES?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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how do you like them?
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
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Mooing
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
and with barbeque sauce
Kosuke Fukudome. Dickie Thon. Jung Bong. Pete LaCock. Best. Baseball Names. Ever.
I don’t eat ketchup on my steak. But it would still be delicious if I did.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Standing on your steak while eating anything is just silly.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 19, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but it would be delicious if I did it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
What’s the collective opinion of A1?
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You sunk my battleship
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 19, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I like it ok.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I really really like this picture.
The very bad man who traded my first son non-tendered my replacement son. F*ck you Brian Sabean. Leave my children alone.
You speak for all of us.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Emperor say
Cooking is salt and pepper and various levels of heat. Everything else is just garnish.
JUST A CITY BOY
Salt and pepper with a steak garnish?
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 19, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
/and gives him a 1B mitt
“just to take a few grounders here and there”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I look forward to him being the mid season callup that changes the whole team dynamic and relieves Sabes of the necessity for trades.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
It was also really eye-popping to see Renee stab that Russian dude on “24”
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eye popping
when Uma Thurman faced off against Daryl Hannah in Kill Bill 2
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OMG! In so early!
Cosmic forces have allowed me to be at a computer at the beginning of the thread. I don’t know what to do.
Dick joke. Snark. Rush. Turkey Sandwich. Bochy has a big head.
Also, I like Nate.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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I think you may have blown your wad. It’s about focus and control.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Too easy
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
TWTWS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Are you really in a position to speak for the Wad?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
We are now the McWadden.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
What's not to like?
It’s chocolate, it’s peppermint, it’s delicious! Very refreshing!!
Oh wait, that’s a Junior Mint…
The only dreamy guy out there is named Omar Vizquel
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
dreamy
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I’m glad that photo was blocked for me at work.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
wait
aren’t you a girl?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Ah, come on Doc! How many times do we have to go over this! I have boy parts!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
quiet you
I’m creating a meme
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Are you sure that’s not James Mercer of the Shins wearing a Giants jersey?
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Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Bullish on Nate
.280/.320/.450 with ~+8 UZR in right field.
/checks Grant’s prediction. DAMNIT
btw, why did they have to call it bull market and bear market? Why couldn’t it have been bear market and bird market or something?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Including baserunning
I think Nate will be one of the few Giants non-pitchers to crack 2 WAR this season, with Sandoval and maybeeee DeRosa and maayyyyyybeeeee Rowand as the others
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Aaron Rowand was 20th once in the MVP race in 07! of course he’ll be a 2 WAR player!
Kosuke Fukudome. Dickie Thon. Jung Bong. Pete LaCock. Best. Baseball Names. Ever.
The only thing Rownad is going to crack
is his skull running into the batting cage
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
AB: 450
BA: .275
OBP: .305
SLG: .415
6 HRs
Number of pitches Nate swings at that eventually hit him: 1
Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.
by Little Napoleon on Feb 19, 2010 11:05 AM PST reply actions
Judging by the photo, Nate put in a lot of offseason workouts to hone his beard-growing ability.
I’m looking for something like .275/.310/.420 . 400 ABs, 11 HRs. No I didn’t do the math.
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If he grows a ZZ Top style beard, he’s welcome to start in right field any day, even if he posts a sub .300 obp (a more realistic possibility than I care to admit).
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
If he really wants to be the starting right fielder, he’s going to need a Pancho Villa mustache, the official mustache of balding outfielders everywhere!
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The Giants’ VP of Player Personnel would approve.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
I wonder
why his nickname was Dirt.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
AB: 387
BA: .278
OBP: .326
SLG: .449
10 HRs
35 outfield assists
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
The first player up is Nate Schierholtz, who went to Tijuana to get a fake driver’s license in the offseason so the front office would think he’s 31 and in the prime of his career.
Nate is the new McLovin!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions
May 7th
Oh you mean we’re not guessing what date he’ll lose his starting spot to Velez on?
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by EliminateMe on Feb 19, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure that was red-card worthy.
/auto-defenestrates
Dear Internet,
Please fire Brian Sabean.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Nah.
Sandoval losing his job to Velez…now that would be cause for ejection.
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You should pull that out more often. It could be useful here
/puts hex on first person to TWSS this comment
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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 21, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
His natural instincts will always take him back to hacking
AB: 250
BA: .250
OBP: .300
SLG: .400
(I like round numbers)
I think he starts off as a starter, but struggles early as pitchers throw him absolute junk, and is quickly moved to a 4th OF’er role.
That’s an awesome ISO for Nate. I’m almost positive that if he hits .250, his OBP doesn’t touch .300.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I just threw out numbers without much thought in to them.
But if I have to figure out an explanation for them, maybe he’ll bat 8th and get intentionally walked a bunch because . He’d also have some HBP in there if he didn’t swing at them.
ISO?
ISO is just SLG-BA, right? I thought .150 is pretty pedestrian. A bit below average – not really awesome. Or am I just missing a joke, here?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
OBP-AVG
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I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before
Is there a place you can direct me to that uses ISO to mean this?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Well, I just meant ISOlated OBP… if I used the wrong three letter thingy, I’ll just spell the whole thing out next time.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
yeah u wrong
ISO = isolated power
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Well, it should be ISOPOW in my opinion.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
of course
subtracting OBA from BA makes no sense because they have different denominators.
You just want BB/PA anyway or walk rate.
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Oh, I know. But it’s useful as a very rough clue. You can generally tell who takes lotsa walks by glancing at the BA/OBP difference.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
So sayeth howtheyabbreviated.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Ooooo, ISO horny
Me love you long time
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I don’t know. But I meant that’s what howie meant.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
/swings at HBP
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Semi-love for the semi-local guy
He’s from near my area but went to the wrong high school, although I think I worked with a guy once who supposedly knew him quite well.
Anyway…
AB: 365
BA: .282
OBP: .327
HR: 12
SLG: .445
And don’t lose your job to Velez, eek. But I wouldn’t mind Bowkermania…
Win the inning.
AB: 431
BA: .291
OBP: .312
SLG: .405
HR: 8
Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.
Wow, for a guy who gets so much of his hitting value out of his batting average, that’s a very pessimistic prediction considering the .291 BA.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
/swings at HBP
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Grant keeps saying that he did that twice, but I’m almost 100% sure that he did it on three separate occasions. I think he struck out on HBP twice, but actually swung three times.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
So does that mean on one of those HBP, his bat speed was so fast that he swung and missed twice on the same pitch that hit him?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Yes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
As a line it’s pessimistic, but overall I’m not. I think that he will hack like crazy for a while, but calm down towards the end of the season and learn to take some walks and HBP’s, while sacrificing a bit more of slugging.
Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.
Too early
I’ll make my projections for Nate Schierholtz as soon as Jermaine Dye signs a contract for the 2010 season.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I hear he can handle RF at Mays Field.
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AB: 455
BA: .280
OBP: .320
SLG: .450
HR: 10
Defense: Super Sexy.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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This is what I was going to guess...
Except I’ll go up to 325 OBP and 15 HRs
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I’m not going to guess at numbers but I think he’ll hit well enough to stick and maybe better.
Nobody likes money
Believer
AB: 426
BA: .291
OBP: .329
SLG: .455
14 HRs
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Feb 19, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions
I would really like to see this
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
I like that an OPS of almost .800 from a corner outfielder is something to get excited about here.
Wait, no, I meant “I am very sad that an OPS of almost .800 from a corner outfielder is something to get excited about here.”
I get those mixed up all the time.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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His OPS...
IT’S ALMOST .80000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
/takes off power scanner
//thinks, “My God!”
THAT… THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
That’s the kind of line I wasn’t expecting to see until the Bowker projections. I would be thrilled with that outta Nate.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
YOU'RE LOSIN' ME HOWIE
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I’d try to sport a Nate-beard in support if he posts that.
(I would fail in my beard-growing efforts, but I’d try.)
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
This is all hypothetical of course
Because these numbers would have to rely on Jermaine Dye being hurt…
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
That’s just mean
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 19, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a lot of doubles.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So, are Ichiro and Nate the only players to have inside the park homers at AT&T?
Hence: Nate = Ichiro
science
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
So much for China's portion of our national debt lowering anytime soon.
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by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Also, that photo requires a caption contest
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 19, 2010 11:28 AM PST reply actions
THAT is how the best shape I’ve ever been should feel.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 19, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Ray Ratto wearing his favorite green sweater behind Bochy
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Power surge in SF!
With electronics. Not Schierholtz.
AB: (I never know how to predict these) 435
BA: .275
OBP: .312
SLG: .450
HR: 10
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It's easy to predict AB's.
Start with 300:
+100 if he shows up in the best shape of his life
+100 for veteran gamey-tude
+100 if he’s on Bork’s good side (see above line)
-300 if he’s named Buster
+300 if he makes a good impression in the first 20 ABs
AB: 350
BA: .305
OBP: .332
SLG: .446
HR: 9
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 19, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions
AB: 425
BA: .264
OBP: .334
SLG: .429
HR: 12
Starter in 2011: Yes …for about half the year until the Giants organization realizes that he could be a great asset in the future and trades him for a player who is injured half the time and hasn’t had a decent year since 2006.
Again, crazy ISO. Dude takes walks?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Something that has been bothering me for about two years
Besides that rash.
Does Nate release his top hand too early on his backswing?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions
Just found a video which I think shows what I am seeing
Watch the slow-motion part.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Now compare that to this guy
Same ballpark of height/weight:
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Given the fact it feels way presumptuous for me to critique at all, I do think you have something there. And I have commented before that there’s a kind of “flick” quality in Nate’s swing. Like he looks as if he’s kind of flicking his bat at the ball sometimes, resulting in a lot of soft line-drive-to-left singles, and slow bouncers up the middle. Certainly, we’re not seeing a lot of power in his swing.
So yeah, what I’ve been referring to as “flicking at the ball”, might better be described as releasing his top hand early. And it seems like power would be lost as a result.
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
I feel like I must have this wrong because you would think at SOME level of baseball that somebody (hitting coach?) would have told him that he isn’t driving the ball properly because he isn’t following through enough. It just seems weird that an idiot (me) on an internet blog can notice this and other people don’t. It could be by design, but I just don’t understand the goal of it if that is true.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Charlie Lau?
It may be that Nate is following more of a Charlie Lau/Walt Hriniak approach to hitting, in which the top hand is released early, by design. I found a link from 1998, during the McGwire/Sosa chase of the Maris record, that credits the approach for helping Mark McGwire add power.
It’s a pretty interesting piece (despite the fact that it’s 12 years old), not only for how it relates to the Lau approach to hitting, but for some insight it gives into McGwire, particularly as he begins his stint as Cardinals hitting coach. In one section, Jesse Barfield comments on McGwire’s improvement using the one-handed extension, and the writer of the article manages to catch up to McGwire for his response:
In mid-June, I catch up with McGwire, three hours before a game at Comiskey Park, and relate Barfield’s remarks. Politely, he fends off the topic. “I never talk technical baseball,” he says. “There are things the media don’t need to know. There are things my teammates don’t know about. I just keep it to myself. In my mind. Someday when I’m a coach, I’ll talk about it.”
Is it accurate that a tophand release was a turning point for you? I ask.
He nods, reluctantly.
“I agree with that.”
Why?
“It gives me full extension. Any hitting coach tries to teach kids full extension, but it doesn’t happen overnight. It took quite a few years for me.”
That is as far as McGwire goes.
“"There are things the media don’t need to know. There are things my teammates don’t know about. I just keep it to myself. …”? That was a nice little eyebrow-raiser for me.
Anyway, it does appear that there’s rationale for releasing that top hand, even from the standpoint of improving power. I don’t know if I buy it, but what do I know?
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
Interesting find. McGwire’s swing definitely changed over the year. I still thing he holds onto the bat longer than Nate. And even if he didn’t, he was like 453 times stronger, so he could get away with it.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
should be: changed over the years
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think the bat speed is the single most important factor in how hard the ball is hit, assuming the same pitch speed and location on the bat.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
It’s clear that Nate’s not getting significant power from his swing, Lau or no.
Another thing, when comparing Nate’s swing to Votto’s—and I think this may also be getting to the heart of the “flick” thing—is you can notice Votto getting his whole lower body into his swing (pause at 10 seconds and 11 seconds). With Nate’s swing, you see his hips and butt sticking out, not really in synch with his arms and upper body at the point of contact (pause at 28 and 29 seconds).
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
I don’t think the top-hand release is the problem with his swing, I think it’s the symptom of having a super-long one.
Votto’s swing: keeps his hands back pre-pitch, throws them just after he starts his stride. He lets his hips open almost completely before snapping his upper body around and pulling the bat through the zone.
Nasty Nate’s swing: Hitch step when the pitch is thrown, strides and opens his hips (this part is actually pretty nice) BUT his hands are ahead/in time with his hips. He doesn’t let his lower body generate it’s maximum coiling (potential energy?) and thus has to essentially just use his hands to get the bat through the zone.
yes
And the thing with Votto is that he is more of the Ted Williams school, hips and slight uppercut to more closely match the plane of the pitch. The Hrniak or helicopter swing Lau lead with the knob thingie to me always seemed more of a cripple-fixer for guys who were not natural hitters or to compensate for slow hands to help keep the head of the bat in the zone longer.
The funniest/saddest thing I ever saw was the ridiculous shit that the White Sox tried to do with Michael Jordan…give him a guy 6 foot 7 a Walt Hrniak swing. Like teaching lincecum to be a junkballer finnesse zito kind of pitcher
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Michael Jordan's minor league line
.202 / .289 / .266. 30 SB, 18 CS. Ouch.
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So he was a really tall Bocock.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 19, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
The NBA shorts of the 80s were a little too short for that.
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TwoBagger and E Ticket,
Thanks for the analysis. Kind of sad, I thought Nate had a problem in one area, but in reality he has multiple problems in a whole bunch of other areas. Baseball is hard!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t Bonds’ philosophy to lead with the nob of the bat? This question isn’t to contradict you, because obviously any system can work with an enormously gifted and disciplined athlete, I was just curious.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Good question. Actually just the opposite. If you’ve ever seen any super slo-mo of his swing, the first part of the bat to move is the top of the head. He claims that is what generated so much quickness in his swing. He claims (and I certainly do not disagree) that by doing so he could get the head of the bat into the zone quicker, which enabled him to wait just a little eensy bit longer to identify pitches.
It would certainly explain (along with his extraordinary strong hands) why he was able to keep so many of those inside fastballs that looked virtually unhittable straight down the line rather than hook them foul. The fact that he stood right on top of the plate and was still able to turn on those pitches and drive them into the cove is something I never saw before or since.
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
what else is interesting
is I don’t think that he hit that ball before they moved to the new park.
Somewhere, perhaps here?, someone pointed out that there were some enlargement of the strike zone, and that pitch wasn’t called before. With Bonds’ eye, he laid off that pitch. With the enlargement, he realized he could spin that, especially given that tantalizing short porch. Bonds took advantage of it like no one else.
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2009
AB 285
BA 267
OBP 302
SLG 400
HR 5
2008
AB 356
BA 278
OBP 314
SLG 490
HR 14
2007
AB 417
BA 290
OBP 319
SLG 468
HR 12
Projection:
AB 530
BA .279
OBP .312
SLG .453
HR 16
catchers bowled over: 3
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
fuck
mcc needs an edit button
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Feb 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
to be clear, the 08 and 07 numbers are MLEs not actual AAA performance. But you knew that.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Feb 19, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
AB: 475ish
BA: .285
OBP: .310
SLG: .405
And he’ll break Russell Martin’s tibia running over him at least twice.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
After the first time, I think backing up and running over him again is uncalled for, even if he is a Dodger.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
nah
Seems fair to me
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
You mean two separate incidents or backing up to finish the job?
Either way.
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TWSS
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
seems to be a consensus
that I will not stray from
PA’s: 500
AVG: .278
OBP: .313
SLG: .425
HR: 9
UZR: +6
LOL Huff Deal
ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports that Russell Branyan has agreed to terms with the Indians on a one-year, $2 million contract.
The deal also contains $1 million in performance-based bonuses and a $5 million option for 2011. Branyan, 34, will provide insurance at first base for Matt LaPorta, who is coming off multiple surgeries, and he might even find time at DH. Branyan also drew heavy interest from the Rays.
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ugh
Sabean never fucking learns, does he?
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due dilligence
tires not kicked
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by SoFa King Mike on Feb 19, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
The more I look at the prices the Giants paid this offseason, the more I scratch my head.
Would any other team pay $3M for Huff? $3.25 for Uribe? The DeRosa deal seems fair, but jeez.
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And jesus, how do the Mets not pick up Branyan at that price? They are one of the few teams that might have a worst 1B situation than the Giants.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
That ship has cellulite.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
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WE’RE IN THIS THING!
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AND they had to basically lie to get Uribe for $3.25 million. LOL.
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I've mentioned this before, but...
I had a dream a while back where I was a Giants player, but still posted on MCC. Brian Sabean replied to one of my comments with a contract offer, and I was all, “What the fuck is wrong with you!? Call my agent! Don’t talk about this here!”
I’m starting to think that the only unrealistic part of this dream (aside from me being a professional baseball player) is the notion that Brian Sabean could use a computer well enough to post to MCC.
Plus, if he did, he’d never find the +reply button.
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This dream
Is hilarious and awesome.
I’ll start advocating for open MCC contract negotiations from now on.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I once asked Grant if any players or coaches or anything had ever contacted him saying they’d read something on MCC, and he said it had never happened.
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Perhaps not. Maybe once they’re no longer associated with the team or something.
There’s always Jack Taschner’s mother, I guess!
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this was back in 2007 or 2008
Taschner’s mother was quoted as saying that she looked him up on the Internet, and fans were calling him Special Agent Jack Taschner. That was our nickname for him.
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Garrett Broshius did, but no one on the major league roster so far. I’m sure that a couple check in, and that frightens me.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 19, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Did Broshius have positive things to say?
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by Speedforthewin on Feb 19, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly, I hope Aaron Rowand, Bengie Molina, Barry Zito and Brian Wilson never look at this site
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by Speedforthewin on Feb 19, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, they’re big boys, they can take it. And if they get mad, then we’re the ones saying stuff, we should be able to stand by what we say.
JUST A CITY BOY
I can be silenced
for but a small portion of their outsized paychecks.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Armando, though....
I always thought it’d have been cool if he’d have seen this…
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
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by jcb9 on Feb 19, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
by the way
You can become a fan of Armando on Facebook.
He currently has 15 fans. That seems high.
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That’s the same amount of Marlins fans that exist.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Double the number of A's fans
There’s half an A’s fan
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That picture makes me feel bad for him.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he’s trying to be nice and take a picture and these random girls are making fun of him without him realizing it. I mean, if I think about how it’s Armando, I don’t feel bad…..but on first glance, I do.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just as into making fun of someone while they’re doing something nice for you, even if they are as big a douche as Armando.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
I think you’re underestimating how eager I am to make fun of people not in that situation though.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
where has THIS been hiding
TEH AWESOME
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Those facial expressions are priceless.. OMG Girlfriend Mando HAS TEH COOTIES!
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
They’re actually just making those faces because he has them in a “condor grip.” But they’re not his prey. They’re not salmon going upstream. He’s not going to rip them up.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
PUT YOUR SEAT UP, DAMN YOU
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
But I’ve seen posts from Tood Linden! With my own eyes!
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Not to be confused with Todd Linden.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Toad Linden has hopped around different teams.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder: If you kissed him, would he turn into a Prince Fielder?
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Then we could trade him for Cain!
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If these guys are reading the site
I hope they are laughing as I am.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Fielder is even rounder than Sandoval. He is like
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Pood Linden
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
More like Poop Linden! Amirite!?!?!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
That guy’s an asshole.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Poop?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
He stunk it up in the field.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I’m just concerned about why he’s a dick.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I know for a fact that multiple people in the ownership group read MCC and I would be willing to bet serious $$ that Larry Baer is at least an occasional reader.
Where do you think my boy got the idea for a Giants snuggie?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
So Mr Baer if you are reading...
If there were ever empty seats right behind the Giants’ dugout that need to be filled, I’m your guy. I don’t care what team they play be it the Natinals or Marlins.
In return, I’ll buy some tickets from the ticket office.
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Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Feb 19, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Back when my wife worked for a university in the Bay Area, one of the students she worked with was also a intern for Brian Sabean. I should’ve asked him if MCC ever came up.
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Does being Brian Sabean’s intern involve kicking a lot of tires?
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
He won’t hire anyone unless they’ve been an intern for 10 years already.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
if someone from the front office was actually reading MCC
then it might explain the sudden change from Velez as “getting the lion share of the at bats in left” to “we’re not comfortable with him leading off”
by NateEveryday on Feb 22, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
How, pray tell?
Most rich people usually have better things to do than read nerd boards like this. So, I’d be curious to know. Baer maybe; marketing drones, certainly, and there might even be some PR type assigned to do it.
No offense to all the independently wealthy trust fund babies that are longtime McCovenites.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like I am falling into the ’chasm here, but the rich guys I know (like the ones who are a part of the ownership group) all retired at 40 and can only play so many rounds of golf and canasta in a day…
no, no chasm
but if you actually know ownership I’ll take your word for it.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
nah, you didn’t sound douchey at all.
Just out of curiosity, how many owners are there all together?
What do the people associated with the Giants that you know think of McC?
There are somewhere around 30 in the group, and I don’t know any of the major players well at all. Among the fringe elements I know, they all love MCC. They all sit in the first few rows of Sec 121. You can tell who they are because they have a special woman who brings them drinks and things during the games.
no, you're just stating a fact
and I like it a lot when people that do actually know things say so.
Just like you are posting this from your yacht. Ahoy matey! Good signal in Aquatic Park! However, I think you should give up on the canasta and try acey-deucey. You can play that for days on end.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
More like acey-douchey.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
What a douche.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Nicely done
I mean douche’.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
douchè
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
I share your gladness.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
There was Duchesne dormitory at BC. It’s two wings were universally referred to as Douche East and Douche West.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
lol Newton campus
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Shut up!
I liked Newton Campus and having to ride a bus to get to class!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Hey I can’t talk, I was stuck in the most bare-bones dorm on campus (Kostka).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No worries
I was lucky enough to live in Edmonds twice. I love Edmonds.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I lived in Edmonds twice too and I actually did like it. I mean, it wasn’t as fancy as other dorms, sure, but it had everything I needed and it was close to the stadium and the Hillside.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Exactly!
It was fun to see all the football players on the elevators and be far away from the mess that is College Road. I’m going to miss Edmonds when they tear it down.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I lived in the Mods. Are they still there. There were rumor they were getting leveled to make way for the stadium parking lots.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
The mods are still there and going strong. They are slated to be leveled, though, in the big lower campus reorganization, along with Edmonds and the Plex (good riddance). Once the Mods and Edmonds go, so goes a great deal of the on-campus character and history. What can you do in the face of progress, though?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I totally agree! It was the perfect location for me (I loved walking to Beacon St. past the Reservoir to catch the C or D line or just to walk to Coolidge Corner) and it was RELATIVELY quiet.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
late to the BC thread
About the first time I ever went anywhere alone was to visit some friends that were doing a summer program in Boston. One day I rode the T out to Chestnut Hill to see the campus and some really nice old dude started talking to me, and it ended up he was a BC alum, and we had a pleasant chat.
People were very nice to me as an obvious tourist in Boston, it was a very nice experience and not what you would expect from a place that has generated so many irritating baseball fans. The Idiot Nation isn’t a great advertisement for Boston tourism IMO.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 21, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Ah Coolidge. Brookline was definitely my favorite part of Boston and where I’d live in the city if I were to end up back there (for residency, say).
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ah yeah. My first year there I lived in a house near Coolidge Corner between Beacon and Comm Aves, and every morning I’d walk down to the stadium around the reservoir and it was always quiet — and so beautiful. Coming from the San Joaquin Valley that first fall and winter just stunned me with their beauty.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
/blushes
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Back before the handle got auctioned off the highest bidder, who then said that he wouldn’t use the handle for some reason.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
This one is probably my personal favorite.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 19, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, 2006. Back then, I read Grant’s posts in an RSS reader and rarely ventured into the comments/diaries. That would explain it.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Pine was an awesome program.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I gives me a sad longing.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pining for the elms.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
I still use it...
…well, actually, now I use alpine, but that’s really its successor (for checking my home email somewhere I can’t get an IMAP connection, like work).
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
SABEAN: “We all know this division is ripe for the taking, so let’s grab it by the balls and squeeze. Isn’t that what we do?!” (stands) “What the hell happened to the Giants I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you, Brian, we might delay the rebuilding process. Well, kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Josh Byrnes, he’s a dead man! Towers, dead! Colletti…”
Awesome.
LOL Scott Barnes
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Now, normally I enjoy every second of negativity and Sabean ripping I get in around here, but this is legitimately depressing.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
It’s kind of funny though how poorly Sabean played the market last year, and then you look at it this year, and he waits a couple of weeks to “wait things out”, and at first it appears he learned from his mistake….but in the end, the exact same thing happened, but instead of happening right when FA opened, it just waited for Sabean to kick things off a few weeks afterwards. He didn’t wait guys out again, their market dropped, and he ended up paying a crapload for worse players who later signed for ridiculously less (from a talent to cost standpoint)….
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Felipe Lopez’s signing is going to make me cry.
Sabean’s ability to understand the market reminds me of Madonna’s ability to come up with song lyrics. Yeah, that’s a weird metaphor to have on the top of my head.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair...
Branyan did have a back injury last year, played in only 116 games, and I believe has a history of back issues, all at the age of 34.
http://www.baseballinjurytool.com/injury-tool.php
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Most definitely, but at only $2 million, a fair gamble. With Huff, on the other hand, the gamble is that his apparently injury-free (please correct me if I’m wrong) of last year was a blip rather than a trend. I’m not sure which is the better gamble.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
well
Even if last year was a blip, he also wasn’t very good three of the four years before that.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The other problem with Huff.
If I were a mediocre major leaguer (one can dream) I’d tell my agent to call Sabean every offseason, “Tell him I hit well at home, that’ll get him going.”
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
oops – injury-free suckitude
Ah, nevermind.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure which is the better gamble.
Well, people do analysis on this kind of thing (projections), and they seem to think Branyan is a much better gamble. Yeah, I’ll go with the opinion that’s completely backed and derived from what past MLB players actually do, on average.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather take a chance on a guy coming off his career best year rather than a guy coming off his career worst year
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Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/benitar01.shtml
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
And the other thing to factor in:
The Giants are not afraid to sign guys with injury histories. FREDDY SANCHEZ. So, that dog won’t hunt, were they to spout such nonsense.
Well played. Sabean makes me sad.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
….and despite that injury, he was still 3.9 WAR better than Huff.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Well, he was injured at the end of the year.
Look, I think both signings would suck, I’m just saying based on injury history, both recent and in the career, and the fact Huff has been better almost every year than Branyan, I don’t think that the differences in contract values should be that much. The Giants payed $1 million more for Huff which is too much, but $2 million for Branyan is too much as well.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Still, you probably only need 300-ish PAs from Branyan to beat out any performance from Huff. Branyan is the better hitter and fielder of the two. And he cost less.
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I don’t disagree with you. I guess I am just risk-averse. I don’t really want to sign a guy basically knowing he is going to get injured. On the other hand, I don’t want to sign an over the hill 1B, so I wouldn’t have signed either.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Like I said, signing a talented-but-achy first baseman might have been a great idea had we also hung onto Garko.
Platooning Garko and Ishi would have been ideal.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Who is this Garko you keep mentioning? I heard he was un-good.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
HE HAD HIS CHANCE!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I could see him outperforming Huff this year
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I bet he will.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The only thing that would stop him is AB's
He’s a back up 1B and 3rd string DH in Seattle
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I dunno. I liked Ray Durham and Moises Alou a lot more than, say, Neifi Perez and Michael Tucker.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Durham never played below 150 games before he became a Giant and was not over the hill. Alou is a different story, but yes, he was productive.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, and Durham had never been on the DL before he was a Giant. But even taking injuries into account, I’m happy with the production he gave us.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Good Giant
Branyan has been injured a lot and has never been really good until he was 33. I just would not have gone that route. Alou had his share of injuries, but the guy always did mash.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Feb 19, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
I agree that if the Indians are expecting a middle of the order presence they'll be disappointed
but, like I said above
I’d rather take a chance on a guy coming off his career best year rather than a guy coming off his career worst year
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I liked Durham. He was a bit old when the Giants signed him, but he was pretty good. His 2006 was nothing short of excellent.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
To answer my own question
Alou was worth around $21 mil in WAR monies over his two years. Tucker was worth considerably less over his two years (around $5 mil). Not even close. I guess I thought Tucker’s playing time and D might have made it more competitive.
going by WAR
Tucker: 1.6 over 1 1/2 years
Alou: 6 WAR over 2 years
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
By Historical WAR database
Moises Alou
2005 – 3.8 wins
2006 – 2.1 wins
Michael Tucker
2004 – 1.4 wins
2005 – (-.4) wins
TZ actually likes Alou’s defense in both his seasons with the Giants. He scored at +6 runs in 2005, which is a little surprising since his range seemed stretched at times, but maybe my biases were influencing me.
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Alou really had an excellent season at the plate for the Giants in ‘05. He posted a wRC+ of 147 which is pretty incredible. For comparison, Sandoval’s wRC+ for last season was 145.
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Fun Sabean Fact
Alou was Sabean’s second choice for RF. He had originally target Steve Finley.
LOL SABES.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The good ol’ Desiccated Corpse for Even More Desiccated Corpse trade.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
better than
Vroom!
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That jack pissed me off. I was starting to believe with Schmidt pitching the next day.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Could have been worse...
Steve Finley was actually a part of what is pretty widely considered to be the worst trade in baseball history (Babe aside).
this
I don’t understand why Branyan went unsigned for as long as he did
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by Speedforthewin on Feb 19, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Probably his demands
And then his shrinking market… and who knows, maybe teams got scared of his back….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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The giants just called Mark Prior to let him know the medical staff are optimistic about his health and suggest he should come out of retirement
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by Speedforthewin on Feb 19, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’d still take that, easy. Huff’s basically a replacement level player according to the projections….
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
He’s not a model of health, but he’s been platooned a lot in his career which doesn’t help his PT. In 2004 he got over 500 PA’s in the majors and minors. In 2005 he battled some injuries and had 242 PA’s. In 2006 he was largely healthy, but was platooned again and had 282 PA’s. In 2007 he was platooned yet again and had 194 PA’s as he bounced around between 3 different teams. In 2008 he had an oblique injury that caused him to miss 38 games but he over 300 PA’s between the majors and minors. And last year he wasn’t platooned and reached 505 PA’s — but he did miss some time with the back injury.
To me, it looks like a lot of his PT problems are from being platooned. He’s actually not terrible careerwise against LHP owning a .310 career wOBA against southpaws since 2002 (as far as FanGraphs SPLITZ! go).
Maybe I’m cherry-picking, but 300 PA’s doesn’t seem crazy if he’s not being platooned. Branyan hasn’t been given much of a chance until recently at the major league level to be a full-time player.
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OK, fair enough. I would note, however, that (a) that .310 wOBA vs lefties really is terrible for a first baseman, and (b) he was horrific at the end of last season, which suggests that if the back problem doesn’t heal, you’re more likely to get horrific production, rather than good production + lots of missed time.
Parenthetically, Huff is terrible against lefties too — as in, he should hit the bench without a second thought. But he’s a vet, so I’m sure he’ll get to play every day.
I think he'll improve some, but not that much
.275 / .315 / .425
450 PA, 9 HR
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
AB: 427
BA: .281
OBP: .326
SLG: .433
13 HRs + a few doubles high off the wall
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bok bok bok... BOCOCK!
.200/.190/.210
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
How else am I gonna win the free ice cream?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
.199/189/209
10HR’s
603 PA’s
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by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Little optimistic, don’t you think? That ISO is crazy.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Schierholtz: Master of the Negative Walk.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
1989!
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"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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If we project Molina, I’d list him with a higher average than obp. The man of 13 walks all year. All-friggin-year.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
He didn’t have any walks until mid-May, so he did have an OBP lower than his BA for quite a while.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah, I find that amazing. I have a bet with my brother for when Molina draws his first walk of the year – I called June.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
His first walk came on the same day as that awesome Pablo walk-off home run.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’ve watched the replay of that game (along with Sanchez’s no-no) a couple of times this offseason. It’s so soothing.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Watch him draw a walk on opening day, then not get another one for the rest of the year
Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 21, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Caveat: has to be an unintentional walk (although really, why they would intentionally walk him is beyond me)
If he hits in front of Renteria? 250avg .307oba .328slug .635OPS
by E Ticket on Feb 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
No, he’s right. I was going for the negative walks.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
.276/.316/.455
14 HR
445 AB
+7 UZR/150
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I like Nate… sort of. I see a year of tremendous defense and baserunning to go with a .282/.323/.450
I’ll say 8 home runs but a healthy amount of extra-base hits.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Feb 19, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions
Naterjugg
.237 AVG
.275 OBP
.378 SLG
.653 OPS
11 HR
326 AB
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
Rugged.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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No, carpeted.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Who is that?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
dude from the Unit, if anybody watched that show. pretty dece for a while.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
Loved that show
Sad to see it go. It got stuck in a bad time slot and still managed decent ratings. Oh well.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
the unit
snicker
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
This one?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I always thought he looked more like this guy
Uber-thug Brian Thompson (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Cobra…)
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
AB: 275
BA: .251
OBP: .289
SLG: 362
4 HRs
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 19, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions
AB: 376
BA: .304
OBP: .337
SLG: .465
HR: 12
Starter in 2011: Yes, but he splits time in a 3 way rotation in LF/RF w/ Bowker and DeRosa in 10 and 11
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Thanks for sharing a year of your great career with the Giants and their fans.
by Speedforthewin on Feb 19, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions
I definitely understand this sentiment.
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Thanks for sharing a year of your great career with the Giants and their fans.
by Speedforthewin on Feb 19, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Between injuries to old guys, the chances of Schierholtz sucking, the guarantee that Velez will suck, the organizational hatred of Lewis….I could definitely see some Bowker in our future.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
16 home runs.
yeah, i think he is going to hit 16 home runs. he’s going to tear up spring training, start in right, get off to a hot start, which leaves him in the lineup. he will hit most of those dingers on the road just when he’s about to be replaced.
i have faith. it’s what keeps me going.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Yadier Molina is batting in the game MLB Network is showing right now. It’s kind of amazing how opposite he and Bengie seem to be as hitters.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
600 PA
BA:.300
OBP: .360
SLG: .450
60+ XBH
His newly found patience and quick wrists will finally come together and result in an offensive explosion.
I like Nate, but...
AB: 390
BA: .285
OBP: .310
SLG: .415
HR: 8
+5 UZR
Starter in 2011: No
Man. This post has been almost entirely baseball-talk. Funny how pitchers and catchers reporting puts us all back on task.
Bacon task?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Charlie Sheen cooking bacon in Hot Shots: Part Deux?
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not a Charlie Sheen fan. I find him to be entirely unlikeable.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
It’s funny how being a lousy actor who’s also a drunken jackass who brutally beats his wife can do that.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
He gets a couple of bonus points for making fun of himself in “Being John Malkovich.”
A couple more for his role in “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.”
Yet a couple more for his performance as Rick Vaughn.
Still more for perfectly delivering this line in Hot Shots: Part Deux: “I took a vow of celibacy, like my father, and his father before him.”
He’s still several thousand bonus points away from being cool. But I thought I’d bring it up.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 19, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm gonna watch Being John Malkovich on monday
for intro to philosophy. I heard its a good movie
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
It’s one of my favorites.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Cool
Always good to watch a movie instead of actual learning
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Donald Duck in Mathemagicland!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
We used to have this on VHS. Somebody told me it was worth a lot of money today, but I don’t know where it anymore.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Whenever I try to explain bank shot technique in pool I think of DD in Mland.
And I only saw it once, sixth grade.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely, but it was the first bacon related thought that popped into my head.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
(I had buffalo wings for lunch. Around here, they give you freaking ranch dressing with buffalo wings, instead of blue cheese dressing like good-hearted people prefer.)
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Ketchup and ranch
What are two things that some people will put on anything edible?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Ketchup tastes great on anything edible.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
And there ain’t nothin’ wrong with that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm the only person who doesn't like ketchup
but its far superior to Mustard & Mayo.
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I don’t like ketchup, mayo or mustard.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I don't like ketchup
(mexican) Salsa is a superior substitute in all cases.
I have to be extraordinarily desperate to put it on anything – I’d rather go with salt and pepper.
I like brown spicy mustard on hot dogs / sausages.
Mayo is fine on cold sandwiches (in moderation)
Ranch on fries is the bomb.
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I only like ketchup on burgers and fries.
And actually, my favorite condiment for burgers is pickapeppa sauce.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I can usually tell if I’m not going to like somebody if they refuse to eat hot dogs with ketchup.
That’s not actually true, but it should be.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
In that vein, I usually find that ordering pinto beans instead of black beans is a somewhat decent judge of character, as well.
No
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
philistine
actually, I like just about all beans.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
My favorite beans: black, garbanzo.
I’m a fan of lima beans, too.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Ah, the chickpea.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
sexist
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
The chickpea sitting down.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Eggs get ketchup.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I love eggs with ketchup. My friends think im weird.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 20, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Eggs with ketchup is not bad.
I can eat them either way just fine.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
Not all of them.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Are you insinuating that we share a mutual bond of friendship?
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 20, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
You mean the checks didn't clear?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Cash only. Up front.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 20, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Eggs get salsa..
ketchup or catsup is an abomination.
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 20, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
*phew*
I’m safe.
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Anasazi beans.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Or refried beans.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
You sayin’ somethin’ about refried beans, mister?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Refried beans are fine, but black beans in a burrito >>>> refried beans in a burrito.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Now, if you’d said somethin’ like that the pope has been known to make love to goats, well, that’s one thing. We respect religious opinions around here. And if you’d said that you had a mind to go shoot the president, well then, that’s another matter as well. We respect political opinions around here.
But if I were you, I’d be careful about what I said about refried beans. There could be trouble. I’m not saying there will be… But there could be.
You understand what I’m getting at, mister?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
FRIJOLES FTW!
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I love refried beans, but I agree with this.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with this.
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 19, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
I like refried beans. That’s why I wanna try fried beans, because maybe they’re just as good and we’re just wasting time
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I’ve tried sugar or PCP.
Also, “refried” beans are actually not fried twice. It’s just stupid English speakers screwed up a Spanish non-cognate.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
What's that, buckaroo?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Ive actually always wondered about that
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 20, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn’t re-fried part come into play when lard is added?
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 19, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
from wikipedia
The name is based on a mistranslation.1 In Mexican Spanish, the prefix re- is an informal form of emphasis meaning “very” or “well”, not to be confused with the English re- and formal use of the Spanish prefix re-, which indicates repetition. Thus, frijoles refritos, the Spanish name of this dish, would translate to English as “well-fried beans,” not “twice-fried beans.”
Even more confusing, refried beans are not actually fried at any point.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I am not too sure how most people make them, but after they are boiled i put them in a pan of oil to cook or “fry” for a few minutes before they are mashed. I don’t use much oil but I still consider them being fried.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 19, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
deep fry, yes.
cooking in a frying pan with smaller amounts of fat is also usually called frying, pan frying.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Hmm, I suppose that’s true. I’ve never really been clear on what the difference is between pan frying and sautéing. Maybe just snootiness.
sauteing literally means, something like, “to jump around”. So, pedantically, you have to apply constant motion to the pan to saute. (I’m too lazy for the accents)
In actual usage, they are pretty much equivalent.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
You must hate people from Chicago.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
speaking of Chicago and black people
Yesterday, the last game of the 2005 WS (where the White Sox won) was on, and Joe Buck waxed poetic about the South Side of Chicago:
a collection of neighborhoods…Irish neighborhoods. Italian neighborhoods. Polish. Lithuanian. Firemen. Policemen. Schoolteachers. Stockyard workers.
1) The South Side is like 90% Black
2) The biggest immigrant community is Mexican
3) The last fucking stockyard on the South Side closed in goddamn 1971.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
/cancelled due to fire
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Eventually it was determined that the fire destroyed an area about four miles (6 km) long and averaging 3/4 mile (1 km) wide, encompassing more than 2,000 acres (8 km²). Destroyed were more than 73 miles (120 km) of roads, 120 miles (190 km) of sidewalk, 2,000 lampposts, 17,500 buildings, and $222 million in property—about a third of the city’s valuation.
We could trade them two Barry Zitos and still have walking around money!
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
although
It irritates me when people think that the South Side = black + poor + crime and the North Side = white + rich + yuppies. It’s a pretty segregate city, but it’s still much more complicated than that. The first neighborhood we lived in on the North Side, it was predominantly Asian to the west, Black to the south and north, and white to the east. The second neighborhood we lived in had a big Somali immigrant community.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Okay, so I used to eat hotdogs loaded down with ketchup, mustard, everything I could get, really. Then, for some reason, the last year or so I’ve found myself more and more often avoiding the ketchup and just going the mustard route. It’s not that I dislike ketchup; it’s that I am more inclined to the mustard-only flavor. Now, I’ll throw some ketchup on their from time to time. It just doesn’t happen very often.
I’ll go ketchup with fries, but I’m a big fan of plain fries with salt. How much more flavor could you ask for?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
there, that is.
I’ll put ketchup on a burger every time. Well, unless it’s a chili burger.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
what about a teriaki pinapple burger?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 19, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think that’s a real thing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
risking falling into the chasm...
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 19, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Well, neither Teriaki nor Pinapple are real things. That’s all.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
didn’t realize the spellign polise were out in full forse today
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Meh… it was just a joke.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
You make jokes?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Actually, I only pretend that I was joking when I get called out for being a spelling fascist.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
But you’re actually gravely serious when it comes to spelling, like all half-Russians.
JUST A CITY BOY
I once shot a man just to see the look on his face when I told him that I shot him because he spelled “lose” with too many O’s.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
did you shoot him in Renoo?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I think Renoo is the planet that Jar Jar is from.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 19, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
No, I shot him there.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think we’re in sandwich territory at that point. Don’t ask me to get into why that is. As with religion, one just knows.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Indeed.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Oooh! I thought of another one:
Which film is better, Pee Wee’s Big Adventure or Big Top Pee Wee?
I think this is a superior weeder-outer than the beans question.
this can't be a serious question
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Sriracha
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Chicken Wrap with soup.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
With ketchup, I hope.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that the heart of any dedicated buffalo wing eater is probably not accurately described as “good”.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Evil fat, yes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
butt pee
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 19, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
You spelled DHARMA wrong.
On that note, the whole pussy-fying of Sawyer is killing me. Just let him be the comical jerk he is.
Back to Nate…
AB: 240
BA: .250
OBP: .284
SLG: .380
HR: 5
Starter in 2011: No
Yeah, they’re going to figure him out quickly, methinks.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
Fun stuff from Schulman
From Renteria:
“I feel embarrassed for last year because I could not do my things on the field. They signed me to improve this team. I felt real embarrassed for the fans and the organization.”
From Bochy re:Renteria
Bochy reiterated that today, saying, "I think you look at what Edgar’s accomplished in his career. He’s a winner. He was in the World Series. He got the game-winning hit. I know you don’t live on yesterday’s headlines. But I think Edgar is a leader on the club, in the clubhouse, and he certainly deserves a chance to show what he can do when he’s healthy.
“Just let him play. It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis, but when you’ve got a guy as distinguished as Edgar, he deserves to have the starting job.”
— Man, does Brian Wilson look sharp. In his first bullpen session of camp his fastball, slider and Mohawk looked season-ready.
— Asked where Tim Lincecum can improve, Bochy cited his conditioning, among other things, saying, “Timmy has to push himself a little bit to keep himself in shape.”
— Pablo Sandoval has trimmed back his intense workout regimen so he can spend more time on baseball work, but he said he continues to eat the low-fat prepackaged meals he ate during Camp Panda.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
“Timmy needs to try not getting the flu so much this year. If he does that, I’m thinking 250… maybe even 275 innings when you add in the relief appearances.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
And MadBum likes horses
By the way, Bumgarner lives a little differently like those of us in the Bay Area. At 20, he married his high school sweetheart, Ali, this offseason, and bought a house with 38 acres in Oak Hill, N.C.
Bumgarner grew up on a ranch with horses and married into a family that had horses, steers and beef cattle. They moved all the livestock to the new property, some 11 horses and 15 cattle.
Bumgarner says he likes to ride horses in the offseason, which must be quite a sight since he is 6-feet-4.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Man, I really wish he could have used the word “horses” a few more times.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
So, he married this girl to steal her horses?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
He’s a rustler.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
G D C, G D C
He married a girl
To steal her horses
And run off in the night
But she came to
And held him closely
To teach him wrong from right
JUST A CITY BOY
love this guy…
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 19, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
♥MadBum♥
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
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by Natto on Feb 19, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 11 recs
He can go riding with Zito
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by Natto on Feb 19, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Ffffffffffff....
fabulous and rec’d
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Feb 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
— Asked where Tim Lincecum can improve, Bochy cited his conditioning, among other things, saying, "Timmy has to push himself a little bit to keep himself in shape."
Hasn’t he pitched 225+ innings the last two years or something?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
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Lincecum is going to pitch every 4th day this year.
307 innings.
318 strikeouts
Retires at end of season to open combination medicinal marijuana store and skateboard park in Santa Cruz
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Juan Marichal pitched 300+ innings.
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Asked where Bruce Bochy can improve, Lincecum said “What’s that thing you do when you oversee a bunch of people…? Managing? Yeah, that.”
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So if the Giants are in the 7th game of the World Series with the winning run on, we put in Renteria. Until then, do we have to play him?
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
LOL @ Bochy knowing what SSS is
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Lean Mean Panda Machine!
— Pablo Sandoval has trimmed back his intense workout regimen so he can spend more time on baseball work, but he said he continues to eat the low-fat prepackaged meals he ate during Camp Panda.
Can’t wait.
Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info
by cybermaldonado on Feb 19, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
“…spend more time on baseball work”
ie. windsprints from 1b to the postgame spread
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Bochy he did get the game winning hit during the 1997 World Series but he also made the final out of the 2004 World Series. Neither means shit in 2010.
"meh"
It just boggles my mind that a guy who is being paid millions to run a ballclub would cite something as irrelevant as that as justification for locking Renteria into a starting position. It was fourteen years ago! PacBell didn’t even exist then for krissakes! And to cite that in the context he did, particularly in light of Renteria rapid descent into career asphyxiation the last couple of years is beyond questionable.
Bochy is either stupid beyond comprehension, or:
Bochy thinks fans are stupid beyond comprehension, or more likely
Bochy thinks nobody really pays attention to this shit anyway.
Regardless; whatever he thinks, stuff like this illustrates just how much of a jackass he really is and how much contempt the Giants front office really does hold for its fans.
by E Ticket on Feb 20, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
"Just let him play. It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis, but when you’ve got a guy as distinguished as Edgar, he deserves to have the starting job."
This coming from the guy who invented and daily practices the short-term basis judgement?
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
It’s easy to judge him on a short-term basis.
That’s actually the Giants FO motto.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
385 AB
.277/.308/.424
10 HR
Starter in 2011? Nah.
by microwave donut on Feb 19, 2010 1:47 PM PST reply actions
My hope is that
Neal is Real and can handle RF in 2011 and Bowker is in LF
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Given his age, I’d do no more than two years on Werth, but there better be some tires kicked there.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
As a Philly resident, I feel the need to chime in and disagree on Werth being sorta douchey. Victorino is a huge douche, Hamels is a pretty big bitch, but Werth seems like a decent guy.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I hated him when he used to play for the Dodgers and would go all ghetto and pull at the “Los Angeles” on his jersey while strutting back to the outfield…
I didn’t know who he was back then. He was pretty irrelevant.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, I never said his parents aren’t douches.
by Missing Barry on Feb 20, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
He was complaining last year about the phone book being too big, and that it took away what would have been home runs in their phone booth.
Douche.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
#2 in Fanshots
AB: 325
BA: .268
OBP: .302
SLG: .422
HR: 9
Starter in 2011: LOL…no.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 19, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions
OT: The first episode of Ricky Gervais' new HBO show is available for free on itunes
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Is it any good?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Does he play a jerk?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 19, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
AB 425
BA .291
OBP. .322
SLG. .445
HR 16
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Feb 19, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions
Current Vegas prop line:
For whether Nate or Rowand will miss more games due to crashing into the outfield wall during the upcoming season:
Rowand 7:5
Over/Under for total combined games missed by those two due to crashing into the outfield wall:
34 games.
Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info
Facebook group: True Baseball Fans for Banning all Criminal Cheaters
Description: True fans of the game of baseball, please read the following. If you agree, please join me. Feel free to comment. All I ask is that you keep the comments respectful and thoughtful.
Right, becuase “Banning all Criminal Cheaters” is both thoughtful and respectful to begin with.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Are all the members over the age of 60?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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There are only 12 of them. Why, that’s fewer than the Armando Benitez fans!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
And waaaay fewer than the poodle in the tinfoil hat.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Like somewhere around something close to .275ish
with an OBP between .200 and .400
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 19, 2010 3:33 PM PST reply actions
DARING PREDICTION
UP NEXT ON ESPN THE DEUCHE DEUCE
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 19, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Hey! You’re one of those Iranian Nuclear Physicists!
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
From the Iranian Cyber Army?
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 19, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
So by day…high school student
By night, Iranian Cyber Army Nuclear General Physicist!
GrahamCrakalaka…intrepid reporter for the Tehran Daily Planet
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Words to fan the flames of discontent.
Cutting back Bengie Molina’s playing time would dent more than his pride
That stated, Posey’s swing really is a thing of beauty. It’s got so little effort and yet the ball jumps off his bat. Watching him take BP today, he showed terrific bat control while working pitches to right field. Then he turned so easily on a pitch and sent a high drive that bounced on the berm beyond the left field fence. Power and bat control is such an awesome combination.
Could Bochy be swayed if Posey hits .420 this spring? Doesn’t sound like it.
"A lot of guys hit .420 down here," Bochy said. "(Jesus) Guzman hit more like .880. (Spring numbers) could play a part, but sometimes it doesn’t really matter what you do here. I’m not saying that’s the case with Buster, but you can also get fooled. A lot of guys from winter ball are game ready. With the hard fields and the wind blowing out, the numbers can fool you sometimes."
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Lincecum easily hits 420.
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by Natto on Feb 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hacker. I believe Affeldt is a career .500.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
With the hard fields and the wind blowing out, the numbers can fool you sometimes."
hard field and wind bias.
Take that Bill James!
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
This just in – even Bill James could hit .420 in Scottsdale.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Unfortunately for Giants fans, Bochy could not. Hence his attitude…“Fuck everybody that was better than me.” Who wants to play for a guy that seems so sour apples. Far too many guys like that in baseball. Small penis envy syndrome.
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Because in his world his penis is perched atop his neck
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wait...
and additional $250,000 payouts for each five games he starts beyond that, maxing out at 115 games.
…that’s $50, 000 a game.
That’s insane.
They can’t be expecting him to reach 90 games.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Newsflash!
$4.5 million in salary/90 games = $50,000 a game!
I don't call me an idiot for nothing.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Feb 20, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. I almost started to shake.
But the blood and bile I’m choking on stopped that from happening.
There are no words left to describe how FUCKING IDIOTIC these people are.
ENJOY sitting around with your thumbs up your asses wondering why your team failed to make the playoffs again, Sabes & Co., you collection of douchebags, dumbshits and donut eaters. No — wait — I could’ve ended that run stronger… douchebags, dumbshits and Dorises. Yeah, that’s funny! The wind’s not blowing out, that joke’s not fooling me!
Bochy really is in fact, Forrest Gump
Only stupider and not loveable
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
BTW, am I the only one who had to look up the definition of “berm”?
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
&@%^#$&#&@!
When this travesty was announced, I remember some suggesting that these incentives wouldn’t have any effect on playing time decisions. In which case, with someone with basically no injury history, why would they be included at all?
Bengie will go out there in the bucket of a backhoe if he has to to collect that money.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
That will certainly increase the odds that he will die going from 1st to 3rd in his 27th consecutive start in mid-July in Atlanta
don't worry
his estate will still file a claim.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
When this travesty was announced, I remember some suggesting that these incentives wouldn’t have any effect on playing time decisions.
I had the opposite reaction. As soon as I saw that the extra incentives were based on games started and added up to $1.5m (so taking his deal to $6m, which was his salary last year), I searched my heart and knew Posey was Fresno-bound.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Schulman tweeted earlier today that Buster can be called up on June 1 and avoid super-two status. Seems like the best financial decision for the FO would be to do that and then make sure he starts at least half the games…
Agreed.
And rational thought is helping me calm down…
Except we know he will either ride the pine or be traded for a veteran bullpen arm.
Actually the best financial decision the Giants could make is fitting Sabean and Bochy with cement overshoes and dumping them into the cove
by E Ticket on Feb 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Please read sig
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Isn’t it based on the top 17% of players who have more than 2 years of major league service time? Seems like there shouldn’t be a set date, and, in fact, with more teams using the major-league-call-up-in-June strategy as a solution to avoiding Super Two status, the date when you should call up a promising prospect gets pushed back.
You’re correct, though I’m pretty sure the general cutoff date for Super 2 hasn’t really changed much in the last few years.
by Missing Barry on Feb 20, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
And from Bengie...
"If he checks with me and I say I’m OK to go, why get a day off, you know what I mean? But I’ve never been opposed to what Bochy says, never."
Hmm, let me run that through the translator…
“So what if my OBP is .250? I’m the starting catcher and if they start giving my starts to some snot-nosed kid, I’m gonna whine like an air-raid siren.”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I’m kinda worried about falling into a chasm. Are those actual Bochy quotes? Because they sound eerily similar to the ones we make up to satirize him.
/spit take
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
At least Bochy admitted that the numbers can fool him sometimes. Don’t look at Velez’s on-base percentage, it’ll fool you. He’s a great leadoff hitter.
by giantsfansince1981 on Feb 19, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve never wished an injury on a player, let alone a Giant player, but…
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Lemme guess!
You’re not saying, you’re just saying!
(It bears mention that his contract language is very specific: He doesn’t get credit for games caught. He has to start behind the plate. And starts at any other position, including DH, obviously wouldn’t count, either.)
My god…it’s going to happen, isn’t it? At some after Posey is called up, we’re going to start an inter-league game with him catching and Molina as a DH. I can’t begin to imagine what McC will look like on that day.
I was promised lasagna.
Wow Bochy comparing Posey to Jesus is really making me reconsider my opinion of him as “not a total dumbass”.
Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info
by cybermaldonado on Feb 20, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
This is why Posey won't play
POSEY WALKS
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
OT: sort of...
Anyone hear Baggs who apparently was just on with Ralph and Tom? I would love to hear his take on Bork’s assessment of Posey’s wind and dirt-aided power this spring…
Baggs interview: http://www.knbr.com/portals/3/podcasts/razormrt/0219baggarly.mp3
DeRosa was also on the show but it’s not worth listening to. His cell phone kept going in and out (no TWSS, please).
"meh"
I think I'm fairly optimistic about Nate
because I have to be to keep myself sane
BA: .295
OBP: .330
SLG: .460
HR: 13
with GG arguable defense in RF
WHOOOO
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If he keeps his average up around 290-300, I actually think this is very likely.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’m watching the Stanford/Rice game.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
I wish I could watch that game
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Feb 19, 2010 8:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I ended up just listening to it on the radio, but it was still a pretty good game.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 19, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Watching the Warriors lose play.
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Tonight. They’re at home.
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OT: Giggle
The estranged wife of Los Angeles Dodgers owner Frank McCourt wants nearly $1 million per month in temporary support….
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzuzz. A MONTH? Really? sheesh!
Why does everyone HATE Nate???
AVG: 293
Runs: 85
Hr: 21
RBI: 97
OBP: 339
Slg: 420 lolololol
Hit by pitches and swung at: 4
We dont hate Nate. Most people actually like Nate.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 19, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
NATE DAVIS IS OUR FUTURE
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Avg .305
runs 80
hr 9
rbi 70
obp. .330
slg .450
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
that’s like 25% of the team’s total…
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I’ll take the over on the one person who can run on the team. Is it likely? Heavens no, but where’s the fun in realistic predictions?
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Feb 19, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Is this Haft quote right? Matt Cain has “accumulated the longest continuous service time of any current Giant” ? ‘cuz that’s just crazy talk!
Whos been here longer?
Molinas been here a while, so has Frandsen (lol), but I dont know.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 19, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
I love Matt Cain and I never ever want him to go away.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
by Tim LinCyYoung on Feb 19, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
So you're saying the Tigers are going to sign Matt Cain?
or does he learn how to win?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
He is SO DREAMY! Right howie?
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Feb 19, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I am commander Shepard, and this is my favorite blog on the internet.
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Feb 19, 2010 11:44 PM PST reply actions
He will hit .270/.310/.420 and Sabean will stick with him in RF for 140 games despite the low produjction
Not optimistic
I’ve seen poor K/BB ruin too many prospects who were better and younger than Nate.
400 AB
.280 AVG
.315 OBP
.410 SLG
7 HR
I was promised lasagna.
I’d hit it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
ahahaha
You’ll hear all kinds of lingo in a major league clubhouse, not all of it related to baseball. For instance, getting a haircut is often called "tightening it up."
Well, Eli Whiteside arrived at the ballpark with his unmistakably gray, curly hair shorn to a close-cropped look. And thus he was dubbed, "Tighty Whitey."
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
I guess it’s better than Nut Huggers
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 20, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
That was going to be my porn name.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 20, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
What did you end up going with?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Sadly, I had to give up the dream due to lack of interest.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 21, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I find that hard to believe.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Feb 21, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
OT
Will Johnny Damon make it to 3000 hits?
And if he does, should he be inducted to the HOF?
He has 2425 hits now, and has averaged somewhere around 150 hits a season for the recent past.
Under that pace, he’d have to spend 4-5 more years in the league to get it done.
Can he?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Oh, and
As it pertains to the second part of the question, there are currently no players other than Pete Rose and Rafael Palmeiro who have hit 3000 and are NOT in the HOF.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
well
he’ll need to find himself a team soon.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
He just signed with the Tigers
1 year / 8 million
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
I’m doubtful. But it made me interested to look up the active hits leaders:
1. Ken Griffey (39) 2763 L
2. Derek Jeter (35) 2747 R
3. Ivan Rodriguez (37) 2711 R
4. Omar Vizquel (42) 2704 B
5. Gary Sheffield (40) 2689 R
6. Luis Gonzalez (41) 2591 L
7. Alex Rodriguez (33) 2531 R
8. Garret Anderson (37) 2501 L
9. Manny Ramirez (37) 2494 R
10. Johnny Damon (35) 2425 L
Obviously Jeter and Alex Rodriguez are looking good out of the guys on that list. But who else might? Damon has an outside shot. Griffey has an outside shot. Pudge has an outside shot. Manny Ramirez could conceivably reach it. Chipper Jones is at 11, and he has an outside shot.
But then when you leave the top 11… the next guy who might have a shot looks like (LOL RENTERIA) Pujols. And then way down on the list, Carl Crawford.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 20, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
Bill James Favorite Toy puts Damon at 44% chance to get 3000 hits.
It also says ‘Based on his age, your player can be expected to play for 3.5 more years, at an average of 153.8 per year. At that rate, he will finish at 2963 for his career.’
I’d have to think that if he is really within 40 at some point, then he’d keep going.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
LOLRenetaria
“Based on his age, your player can be expected to play for 5 more years, at an average of 156.5 per year. At that rate, he will finish at 2967 for his career. He has a 46 percent chance to reach 3000.”
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
5 more years of Renteria?!
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 20, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sabes is that crazy…
It’s all based on his current age to get the number of season remaining.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
“The formula presumes that a player has (42 – age)/2 seasons remaining, but not less than 1.5 seasons, and it is determined using the player’s age on June 30 of the previous year.”
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Invalid Assumptions negate this postulate
Renteria’s Columbian birth certificate is about as trustworthy as the Cali cartel. Renteria’ real name is Monroe Wright. He played for Cecil “Studs” Cantrel on the old Tampa Stogies Class B minor league team, disguised as a Cuban.
by E Ticket on Feb 21, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I thought SB Nation was making funny with the hyperlinks
Is that movie any good? Made for TV says no, but Virginia Madsen says yes. Keep in mind that I am a big pushover for baseball movies of dubious quality.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 21, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
It preceded Bull Durham which it reminded me of. I kinda liked Bull Durham right up until the point they showed “Tim Robbins” actually try to deliver a pitch. It was like seeing a Marilyn Monroe from behind, than she turns around and its actually Leatherface. That was the end of the movie for me. Robbins throws like a girl with a sore arm. If “Nukes” pitching ability had not been central to the movie, it would have been a “whatever” if -he-want-to-pretend-let-him, no biggie. But to me it would have been no different than watching Pretty Woman and then have Julia Roberts morph into Maud.
I haven’t seen Long Gone in years, but William Madsen as Studs Cantrell and Virgina Madsen as “Dixie Lee Box” are freekin’ hilarious. Minor league players were used for the action scenes so at least they looked the part. I liked it. Obviously not as big budget as Major League was, but it was pretty good.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
Bull Durham is, at it’s core, a chick flick.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
For ugly chicks at that. No ballplayer I know woulda touched that with a pole. Except maybe Rownads
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
Wade Boggs
sez you’re wrong
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
They must be related. Except for the being a hitting machine part.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
/sabes signs Rent to a 5yr extension.
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
/ GrahamCrakalaka throws a trident through Sabez’s heart
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 21, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you throw gum at Sabean?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Its a choking hazard.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 21, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean does seem like he would try to catch things in his mouth
/russell martin joke
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Nah. My friends call me Brick.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 21, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Late as ussal.
I guess he gets
375 PAs
280 / 303/ 460.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at - 25%
My Schierholtz Prediction...
More outfield assists than home runs.
by Bay Area Sports Fan on Feb 21, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions
Nate
AB: 444
BA: .282
OBP: .319
SLG: .428
HR: 12
Starter in 2010: Until he complains of elbow pain and is benched for not being a gamer.
Starter in 2011: Hopefully not.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Am I reading this right?
The difference is, the Giants react rather than predetermine. They can tell if a pitcher starts to wear down. It could be high pitch counts in games or a drop in velocity or uncharacteristic wildness. Then, the organization pulls the plug.
They even did it with Lincecum last summer when his velocity dropped. They had him skip a start with what they described as “back pain.”
(http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/02/20/SPE11C4O5E.DTL)
Does that make it sound like he didn’t actually have back pain?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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It does.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 21, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
You can’t trust anything the Giants FO says! Nothing! All lies! Lies and prevarications!
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by shanghaijim on Feb 21, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the “back spasms” thing did seem a little sudden and suspect, given that Timmy was at the ballpark walking his dog soon after it was announced.
That said, if it was an alibi, I can’t blame the Giants for resting him. Timmy had thrown at least 115 pitches in 5 of the 6 games he started in August.
And since I have this chart, I’ll just post it. Timmy’s velocity has been down since 2008, so I don’t know that it’s a new concern, but there was kind of a big dip in September/October.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
Where do you get this chart? I was looking for something like this the other day.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 21, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
It also sounds like rampant speculation, but I have no idea. Potato, potato.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 21, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
My new pet peeve
Disingenuous sport articles:
An elite Giants pitching prospect in his early 20’s saw his velocity drop this year, but you shouldn’t be worried, because Dave Righetti isn’t worried, and he knows what he’s doing, as evident by the fact that Cain and Lincecum haven’t had any injuries. Yup. There are no other other names that should be brought up. It’s not like any other elite Giants pitching prospect has ever suffered from a drop in velocity, and it’s not like Dave Righetti said he’s not worried then back then too, and it’s not like it turned out that that pitcher was seriously injured, and it’s not like that injury ended his career. If that were true, I’d have a reason to mention this theoretical guy in the article, or maybe even bring his name up to Righetti, Tidrow, or Sabean. So good thing it’s not.
I was promised lasagna.
Jesse Foppert, Jerome Williams and Kurt Ainsworth never existed.
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What is Noah Lowry?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 21, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
A man with less ribs than me?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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Fewer.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 21, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Fewer?
I hardly knew her!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 21, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, Ainsworth had a freak injury, and Williams had a different story – but Foppert’s story is just identical to Bumgarner’s. Even if Schulman thinks it’s different this time, he has to at least bring it up.
I was promised lasagna.
Bochy says Lincecum and Bumgarner expected to pitch in March 3 Cactus League opener vs. Seattle at Peoria.
Seems kinda odd. It’s not common to have two projected starters in one ST game, is it?
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
omg something’s wrong with timmy
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by shanghaijim on Feb 21, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
or
madbum’s lost his velocity forevar, oh noesssss
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by shanghaijim on Feb 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yes it is
Especially early, when the starters don’t pitch more than three innings, and especially with guys like Bumgarner who are fighting for a spot.
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DO YOU BEIEVE IN MILLERCLES? YES!
Yeah, even I know that’s lame. But hey, the 30th anniversary is tomorrow. Get pumped.
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RYAN MILLER! RYAN CALLAHAN! RYAN KESLER! RYAN SUTER! RYAN WHITNEY! RYAN MALONE! BOBBY RYAN!
There really are far too many Ryans on Team USA.
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that was awesome
and a bunch of ugly goals by the US, but they all sneaked in, and unlike figure skating style doesn’t count.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 21, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Canadians are already ragging on HTML and Boyle, saying because they’re Sharks they caused all of Team Canada to choke. Sure, ignore the fact that Heatley had a goal, and that their golden boy Sidney Crosby deflected Rafalski’s first goal in and ended up being a -3, it was all the Sharks’ fault.
Sorry, just a little annoyed with all that. But hey, Joe Pavelski of the Sharks is on Team USA. That’s pretty awesome.
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Canadians RAGGING?
So! The mask falls and reveals the TRUE nature of the cold white north!
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by shanghaijim on Feb 21, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
They’re all nice and pushovers for everything else, but when it comes to hockey, nobody can be better than them. Nobody. Like, half the country watched the finals for the World Juniors, which is an under-18 hockey competition (USA won over Canada, btw, haha). If another country tries to usurp their throne, they become all indignant and mad.
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you know
we’re always told just how nice and polite Canadians are…but you know who tells us? That’s right, the fucking Canadians.
They’re a menace, I tells ya, I lying menace.
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Ya know, Wolverine was never all that nice and polite. Northstar neither.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
With the win, the US has ensured that it is only possible for one of Russia or Canada to medal. Seeing how they were ranked 1-2 respectively going into the Games, I think that’s pretty awesome.
Also, LOL FATSO.
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I don’t watch hockey at all but I found myself watching the 3rd period. Thankfully it was on MSNBC where it was live instead of NBC and tape delayed.
"meh"
I unfortunately missed the entire game, but from what I heard, it was like the gold medal game/playoff hockey in terms of intensity. And really, very few things beat playoff hockey in intensity and excitement.
If only NBC showed the game live, it would have gotten amazing ratings. But even on MSNBC, it probably was the most-watched event in that time period.
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OT – LOL CANADA HOCKEY!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
Hockey might be one of my favorite sports now… up there with football, college hockey really got me to see that
Baseball. Team Sport
Hockey. Team Sport on drugs.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
Hockey’s okay, but I need to openly hate on something. It takes a lot of effort to keep my mouth shut about Arrested Development all the time.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Haha, i actually like that show… i mean, if there is a sport i dislike the most, it’d be between the nfl and basketball, just the way it’s officiated… but as for a show i disliked the most… friends
LOL. I’ve always wanted to line up the three guys on that show like the 3 stooges and just slap the shit out of them “Moe” style. A new-age spineless dork, a retarded bowling team flunkie, and a guy who thinks he’s cool, but isn’t.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
How you doin’, E?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
That turned out to be a pretty important comma, actually.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS
JUST SAY YES TO TACOS
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Hijack!
“Bachelor No. 1…if you were a punctuation mark, what would you be and why?”
(I think this actually got asked once on the original Dating Game)
“I would be a period, because I always have menstrual cramps”
/Bengie
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I know tk’s answer.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
SEMI-COLON!!!!
TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development
\o/
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
I’d be a comma, because I like when people use me the wrong way.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
Friends season 1 was a pretty darn good broad-base sitcom. Even season 2 was perfectly fine. I’m not sure what season it really jumped the shark, though. Probably right around 3 or 4. It got really bad really fast, for sure. And by the end, it was basically unwatchable.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Well, see, the thing was, i don’t think i ever really understood it, plus the comedy was just too wet, i’m more on the dry humor and sarcasm, plus like by far the best sitcom was seinfeld, never have found a problem with it. But friends was just a pain to watch when it was on when i was a kid
Well, like I said, it was always a broad-base comedy. It was trying to appeal to a lot of people from the very start. So it always had to make sacrifices in order to appeal to so many people. The first couple of seasons, though, it was written intelligently behind all the broad-base shenanigans. Once it became star-powered, though, it lived off of the personalities and not the writing and basically sucked the rest of the way. There’s some good, intelligent writing in the first couple of season, though, if you don’t mind dealing with some of the broader schlock to get to it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
And just for good measure, I’m going to say “though” one more time. Though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
yea, that would make sense, i mean, what makes a show good are the personalities of the people in the show, but at the same time the writers have to utilize that and they really didn’t
Though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
KInda like SNL. Some years were worse than others. Some years were better than others.
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
…I absolutely love Friends, and own all the seasons. What you guys are saying is basically blasphemy to me.
Then again, I think Seinfeld is extremely overrated. So, yeah.
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I almost said, “Suck it Russell Martin” to a kid wearing a Russell Martin shirt walking down the street when I was going to the grocery store one day. But then I realized he was maybe 6, and I’d probably get shot since this is South Central, so I didn’t.
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Every girl i knew liked that show… Seinfeld?? it was tougher to find girls to like it, i’ve moved on from the comedies… though keeping the office and the new show community
Well, there must have been some girls who liked it, since it was the most watched whatever in the history of something or other.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, I have no idea what the demographic breakdown for that show was. It was probably more male than anything else, though, since Elaine was the only regular woman on the show and she was pretty much just one of the boys a lot of the time.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
She kind of reminded me of a penguin. But more disheveled
by E Ticket on Feb 22, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
love the sein
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Feb 22, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree. At the time the show was made, Elaine was possibly the best written female characters any sitcom had ever had. At least in the first few seasons, when the show still made some sense, she was independent, but not lonely and desperate; she was modern, but still womanly (and in a good way); she wasn’t as cynical as Jerry, but had a sense of humor; she was intelligent, and often the voice of reason, but was not a stereotypical nagging women.
Elaine virtually had all of the positive characteristics of the modern women, without most of the negative ones. Later she became mean and desperate and stupid, as did the show itself, but she was a pretty groundbreaking character in 1990.
I was promised lasagna.
Well, I’m more than happy to defer to your expertise here.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 23, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know if most women would agree with me, though.
Anyway, the show was still clearly written from a male point of view, and for a male audience, so it’s not surprising that it had more male viewers. But I still think Elaine was a good character. David and Seinfeld completely much lucked into it, though – Elaine’s basically the result of two male writers who, by their own admission, had no ability or desire to write a female character (Elaine doesn’t even appear in the first episode: David and Seinfeld finally added a women only after NBC threatened to cancel the show if they didn’t).
The didn’t make her a stereotypical female character because they had no idea how to make one. They just based her on their two ex-girlfriends, who, along with Julia Louis-Dreyfus, were apparently strong enough women for Elaine to keep some womanly characteristics.
I was promised lasagna.
I never watched Seinfeld. Every now and then I see a rerun, and the ones from the later seasons appeal to me more than the early ones.
While we’re at it, I prefer Seven Voyager over Kes Voyager.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
WHAAAT?!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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KES ANNOYED THE HELL OUT OF ME except when she was being all Phoenix-y
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
(BTW I don’t disagree with you)
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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True fact: I did not find the show Seinfeld funny with the exception of like 3 episodes.
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True fact: scout6 only saw 3 Seinfeld episodes.
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“Like an old man returning soup at a deli.”
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
"...like 3 episodes."
Is that two or four episodes?
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by victor frankenstein on Feb 23, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
i don’t think it is physically possible to live in the United States and only see 3 Seinfeld episodes. My college dorm mate had the entire series.Was/still am not impressed.
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Kes was terrible. Neelix was worse.
Voyager in general was pretty bad.
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the thing that always bugged me about Kes/Neelix, by the way
She was like FIVE YEARS OLD or something. I mean, physically an adult, but still. CREEPY WARTHOG-LOOKING PEDOPHILE ALERT!
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I dunno, I don’t like drag queens in general but Janeway was pretty HBIC.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
I really wanted to like Janeway – first female captain and all – but I thought she was utterly wretched. She was very poorly written, and Kate Mulgrew was a lousy actor. As written, she was a pretty terrible Captain – inflexible, moralistic, irrationally committed to “maintaining Star Fleet ideals” against all reason, etc.
That show drove me nuts for a lot of reasons, though.
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That show drove me nuts for a lot of reasons, though.
Primarily because it was terrible.
My plot summary for every Voyager episode I ever watched:
“We’re lost in space, trying to get back.”
/something ridiculous happens.
“Oh god, we’re all going to die.”
/nothing useful happens to resolve the problem.
“STRANGETECHNOBABBLE”
/problem is resolved.
/credits.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Most of the time the ridiculous thing is some sort of giant space cloud. Oh, look, a weird nebula! Let’s poke it.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Normally I enjoy things that start with that kind dialogue, too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
kind “of” dialogue..
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
“Oh, look, something new! Let’s poke it!” = the human condition
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
This reminds me of something I forget where I saw it but it goes like this:
“Somebody can tell us that there are a billion stars in the night sky, and we’ll believe them without thinking. But if there is a sign on a wall that says Wet Paint, we just have to touch the wall to be sure.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
my wife and I rewatched Voyager a while back (for some reason)
A couple of things we noticed:
They use the phrase, “this part of space” at least five times an episode. Usually, “We’re new to this part of space.”
Every weird thing they have to touch is “some kind of.” Like, “Some kind of giant space cloud.” “Some kind of spatial anomaly.” That sort of thing.
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Some kind of transparent plot device!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
some kind of deus ex machina instant plot reset button.
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I think they rerouted the warp transponders to communicate with the phaser interface in a way that runs counter to the frequency of the enemy’s energy field, but only the doctor’s communicator had the tachyon impulses necessary to provide the exact charge that would set off the chain reaction without harming the ship!
Like putting too much air into a balloon!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
In a related note, showed my trekkie buddy the futurama star trek episode and he loved it.
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That line from Bender really cracks me up. I also love the bit with Walter Koenig about “what if you don’t even like Star Trek?”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
B for effort. To get an A, you would’ve had to work in Seven’s nanoprobes being extracted to magically fix every problem.
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Blast!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
But rerouting the tachyon impulses might disrupt the Doctor’s holomatrix! OH THE ETHICAL CONUNDRUM
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JANEWAY MURDERED TUVIX
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The terribleness was a big part of the problem, yeah.
Another big thing for me was that they were this one little ship in the middle of nowhere with no help from anyone…
….and yet:
(a) In each episode, right up to the end, there were guest star crew members we had NEVER SEEN BEFORE. Where did they come from!?
(b) The ship was always in perfect shape. They made some references to looking for fuel or whatever in the early days, but that was it, and they dropped even that pretty quick.
© There was never any personal conflict among the crew at all. This was an issue with TNG, but in Voyager it’s a thousand times more ridiculous – they’re stranded in the middle of nowhere, cut off from the people they love and everything they know, and half the crew are terrorists who were trying to kill them, but they ALL LIKED EACH OTHER JUST FINE AND NEVER FOUGHT.
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I think you’re right that they did copyright that last one.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
oh, and also
For the first two seasons, they keep running into the same Kazon villains over and over. I mean, they’re supposedly warping back to the Federation at top speed FOR TWO YEARS, and yet they keep dealing with not only the same species, but THE SAME PEOPLE.
This is one of the main problems with Voyager, actually: when you watch it, you get the impression that the writers spent about five seconds thinking through the consequences of their premise, and then they just said, “Aw, fuck it, we’ll do what we want.” But if they didn’t want to deal with any of the consequences of Voyager being stranded in unknown territory, why did they use the premise in the first place, dammit!?
I can go on forever about how bad Voyager was.
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Umm except for the first line that is almost every star trek episode ever.
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Not really.
But it is a lot of them.
Voyager was a lot more fragrant about. Their writers were lazy as fuck a lot of the time.
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I still agree that Voyager was one of the worst Star Trek shows.
Also I lol’d at this for some reason.
Not really.
But it is a lot of them.
Like your conscience would not let you get away with saying it.
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TNG really wasn’t that bad with the techno-babble plot escapes. They generally specialized in the “foreign diplomacy” angle. Except with the Borg.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
I will give you that, which is why I loved TNG the most. Grew up watching it. DS9 is a solid second.
Speaking of the Borg, an episode with them was on the other day, and yeah it was the early 90’s but wow were their makeup and effects terrible.
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Oh man… BLACK LEATHER SUITS WHITE FACE PAINT AND EYE PATCHES!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
hmm. I recently rewatched The Best of Both Worlds and that didn’t bother me at all.
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DS9 had some technobabble fixes, but they did a lot of other stuff too. Some of the time that had Magic Prophet Solutions, for example!
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I believe you mean “wormhole aliens”.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
DS9 was awesome because it could not rely on the whole “we are out exploring the universe here’s some crazy shit that happened!” storylines.
I like the ideas they came up with it being pretty much a borderpost and the front lines of the Dominion War
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The serialization of DS9 was very cool, but I prefer TNG since, in my opinion, it had the best characters and actors.
No, I’m not talking about Deanna Troi.
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MARINIA SIRTIS AND GATES MCFADDEN ARE THE BEST JCB9 YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops at terrible name misspelling.
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by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t mind Dr. Crusher. Actually, I liked her. But Troi makes me want to stab myself in the face. Especially in the first couple of seasons when Marina Sirtis’s accent was all over the place.
Troi got a little more tolerable towards the end when they let her wear a real uniform instead of her cleavage suits.
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I liked Gates McFadden as well, but I never thought of her as much of an actor.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah the characters of TNG were a whole lot better. Picard was/is amazing.
Also reminds me of the Futurama Trek episode where Fry takes off with Nemoy and Johnathan Frakes replaces him and yells “Yes! Front row!”
Tee hee.
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I have a couple of (very nerdy) teenage cousins who recently got into TOS. They initially refused to acknowledge the existence of the later series, but lately they’ve been watching some TNG. They’ve liked some things about it – but they HATE Picard and Data.
Yeah, I don’t know what to say about that.
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I don’t know. I kind of like that Data is the anti-Spock. Spock spends so much time trying to deny his humanity, and Data tries so much time trying to find it. Plus: Brent Spiner is pretty awesome.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Not that you made any connection between Data and Spock. I just always jump to that without thinking.
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by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
but they HATE Picard and Data.
UnAmerican.
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Their favorite characters are Geordi and Guinan. Both good characters, but…
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As for Geordi, did they grow up watching Reading Rainbow too?
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I dunno, I got tired of the perfection of the Federation and the 24th-century human race pretty quick. Which is why I loved in “First Contact” Alfre Woodard calling Picard on his actions vis-a-vis the Borg.
I loved DS9. The paranoia, the political shadiness, and then of course the Dominion War. Ooh. Now thems was space fleets!
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The Dominion War was one of the greatest plots ever. The suspense and intrigue was dripping from every episode, the battle scenes were terrific. Such good television.
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Plus, DS9 did have this going for it
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DAMN YOU NARROW VIEW
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Win.
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Also note we are the only people keeping this thread going.
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The difference is that seasons 1-3 were a sitcom commenting on pop culture. Seasons 4-10 was a show being pop culture. Once it became a hit, it was no longer about talking about silly things; the people had grown attached to the characters, and so it became a soap opera with a laugh track and random slapstick.
I greatly prefer seasons 4-10. CUZ IZ GHEY
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I never really understood the appeal of Friends, personally. Almost all the people in it, to me, are actively annoying. Which is a bummer. But, I am told, it takes all kinds. In case you were wondering what it took.
Lisa Kudrow was funny in The Opposite of Sex, though.
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They’re all hot.
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… me and my five cousins are pretty much the characters of Friends. Or were, anyway, in the 90s.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I think they were much less annoying early on, before they became parodies of character traits. This is particularly true the characters of Ross, Chandler, Joey, Phoebe, Rachel, and Monica.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
But particularly particularly true of Joey and Ross. I don’t think Phoebe had a lot of nuance initially, and actually probably became more multidimensional as the series went along (acquired a family, normal boyfriends, etc).
True this. Actually, the originally “normal” characters, Ross, Monica, Joey, became more and more cartoonish, while Chandler and Phoebe became more complex. Rachel is Rachel.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Ross pisses me off. Every single decision he makes is the wrong one. Actually, same goes for Rachel. In the end, it was more of a “they deserve each other” situation than a “aww, isn’t that romantic” situation.
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The problem is they took the worst traits of the characters. Joey’s dumb, Chandler’s a wimp, Ross is whiney, Phoebe is flakey & Monica has OCD. All sitcoms do this, but Friends could have been done better.
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Don’t you think Chandler’s development from infantile jokester to arguably the only real man in the sextet counts for something? Marriage, new career, rejecting Hellboy’s girlfriend, the adoption storyline — he was a pretty stand-up guy by the end.
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
For some reason I liked the infantile jokester.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
/ponders what this could mean
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Chandler became my favorite character. I mean, I loved Joey and his moments, but Chandler really came into his own and grew up. And I know this is kind of sappy, but his relationship with Monica made the series for me. His speech to Erica at the adoption agency makes me cry every time.
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I didn’t really mean the characters were annoying – I never saw enough to know. I mean I find the actors annoying.
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Ah, well yes. I couldn’t even watch Run, Fatboy, Run, because I knew that David Schwimmer directed it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
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by shanghaijim on Feb 22, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Without seeing it, it always seemed to me that it was basically the three minutes from Shaun of the Dead where Shaun is in Liz’s apartment giving up smoking and stuff to prove himself to her, but for a whole movie. And Shaun has a kid. And David is his friend.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Friends
yet another TV show supposed to take place in NY which very, very obviously took place in Los Angeles. Central Perk… so cutting-edge!
PS. SB Nation spellchecker says “Los Angeles” is spelled wrong. To be handy come April.
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Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Okay, guys: Three guesses on the next community projection subject...
1. Bowker
2. Lewis
3. Runzler
Who do you expect?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
LLAMAS
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Well it’s not fun if you take the obvious choice.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Jermaine Dye
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Well it’s not fun if you take the obvious choice.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Travis Ishikawa!
Ishikawa is the best defensive First Baseman since Keith Hernandez. He showed some power but needs to learn a little more patience at the plate. Some fans expect him to hit like McCovey and because he didn’t he is maligned
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He had his chances just like Fred Lewis … Need more dedication to the profession
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hey, I was just looking at that
Mark Williams Topps Rookie All-Star team, .996 fielding pct, and a .400 hitter in home games in Sept. and October. Ishi deserves some credit here. He struggled on the road big but was hitting over 300 at home most of 2009. Give the guy a freakin break.
5 minutes ago
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Also, apparently the Ishikawa equivalent of K-Fred is “Trashikawa.” SO CLEVER!!
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Squishy kaka.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
(AKA: BABY POO)
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I have enough baby poo in my real life, dammit.
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Ah, so then you’re familiar with the squishy kaka. Among other kinds, I’m sure.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Feb 22, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Little jcb9 Twitter account: “I’M POOPIN’!!!”
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 22, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Spring RAINING report
What the hell. We don’t get continuous daily rain like this but once in five years.
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by victor frankenstein on Feb 22, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions
I looked at that in total in (un?)comprehension for about ten seconds.
Mental atrophy.
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by victor frankenstein on Feb 23, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
From Baggs
Willie Mays, when told speedy prospect Darren Ford once scored from first base on a single: “Hell, I scored from first base on a pickoff!”
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Feb 22, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
you go, willie
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by greatgiantfan on Feb 22, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
say the magic word
get a rec.
Willie’s really selling the crap out of his book, but as long as it gets people to notice him I don’t care.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 22, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions
Fat Panda
still fat. oh well, I’m sure that he can still hit the snot out of the ball…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
maybe
some of these guys “in the best shape of their lives” should start eating what Pablo eats.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 23, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
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