Neyer on Posey: Giants dumb, but probably not doing much damage
Nice to see someone else recognize that Giants front office has no secret master plan when it comes to Posey.
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First, let me ask you a question: What sort of chances do you give the Giants of winning 85-90 games this season?
Yeah, same here: slim and none.
Here’s another question: Would Buster Posey playing (say) 120 games change that?
Right: quite probably not.
Was the 2009 season really that much of a fluke? I know nobody thought they’d win 88, but is it really so unlikely that largely the same group (with a few changes) could get 85-ish this year? I’m genuinely curious.
I think a lot of people have us pegged around an 83-84 win true talent team, both last year and this year (forecasted)….so 85ish doesn’t seem outlandish at all.
by Missing Barry on Feb 18, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
85-87 doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility to me at all
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I agree.
But the idea that they can afford to not replace Bengie with a player that gives the team 2 more wins is really ridiculous. It could very well mean the difference of a playoff berth.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 18, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, I see a playoff birth as less likely rather than more likely in whether we have Posey or Bengie back there…
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 6:40 AM PST up reply actions
Bengie looks like he’s ready for a birth.
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+1
That’s the kind of thinking that leads to April, May and June with players like Bocock and Burriss in the lineup. Interestingly, those games count the same as the ones in September. That’s why it’s baseball, at least until Selig’s committee adds 4 wild card teams to each tournament bracket next year.
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by natteringnabob on Feb 19, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions
I think they will about a .500 team. One injury away from being pretty bad.
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 18, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
DODGER FAN CALLS GIANTS DUMB
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by Classy_Argonaut on Feb 18, 2010 2:44 PM PST reply actions
Rob Neyer is a Royals fan…?
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That’s the hometown team from where he grew up. Who knows which team he is a fan of now. Does he live in NY or Boston or maybe Joysey? Flip a coin, Yanks or Sawx. Based on his ignorance of some of his columns, not a NL team.
He makes a lot of off the cuff remarks without looking to see if they’re right first, sure (especially in his blogs and chats), but overall he does a really good job of not showing any bias for or against teams. Not sure what your problem with him is.
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
He lives in Seattle. And he writes about Boston and New York because he works for ESPN and those are the two most popular teams. Not too mention they are pretty well run also.
by theimmortalbenard on Feb 19, 2010 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
Fine, Seattle. Who knows why he is adulatory to the Yanks and Sawx. Maybe he’s a Mariners homer, but I questioned how invested he is in the Royals.
he’s a Mariners homer, but I questioned how invested he is in the Royals.
He’s not, and he’s not. He really doesn’t seem to show any favoritism for anyone, really…
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Really? You don’t think he’s invested in the Royals? Have you ever read the Rob and Rany column?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just for a link
http://www.robneyer.com/robrany.html
Dude might not talk about the Royals for ESPN much (since, you know, ESPN doesn’t care about the Royals) but he cares a whole lot about them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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btw
That hasn’t been updated in some time because I think they both got too busy, but I doubt that Rob has stopped caring about the Royals a whole lot in the span of a year.
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Eh, I guess I’ve just seem him write off the Royals and Dayton Moore enougn that I can’t see it. I’ve also seen him mention a bunch of times how his profession has basically destroyed the fan in him. I know he still takes an interest in the Royals, but I don’t know that he actively roots for them as a fan…
by Missing Barry on Feb 19, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I thought he lives in Portland?
He’s always pushing for an MLB team to go there whenever he links to/talks about expansion.
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That might be right. I do recall him writing about that a couple of times
by theimmortalbenard on Feb 19, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I think the Giants front office is dumb
I also think this article is pretty dumb.
Didn't mean to sound overly negative
It just seems like he’s telling everyone to calm down, when folks weren’t really all that agitated to begin with.
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I don't think that is overly negative, pointless is a good description of the article
Nobody is freaking out over the Giants wanting to give Posey more time to develop (other than a few Chicken Littles around here) now if they have him opening the season as the backup catcher or utility man then we can commence the freakout.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 18, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Gordon Beckham
Do not know which player is better (Beckham or Posey) and the ChiSox are having no problem moving their kid around the diamond.
Beckham is just a better soldier.
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by i did my job on Feb 18, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe not
But I’d like to make Posey’s sister my Rear Admiral.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Feb 18, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
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