BREAKING: Chris Haft is the front office's toady
Okay, so the man comes in for a lot of criticism and mockery here. This article is especially absurd, though. Some highlights:
- He lauds the front office for signing two "competent" hitters.
- He mentions that John Bowker, Emmanuel Burriss, Kevin Frandsen, Travis Ishikawa, Fred Lewis, Andres Torres, Eugenio Velez, Buster Posey, and Eli Whiteside are "unlikely" to all make the team. Really, Chris? We're not going to be carrying nine bench players this time? Damn. My hopes were so high.
- He mentions that Sanchez is LIKELY to start the season on the DL. Originally, Bochy said that was possible - maybe I missed it but I hadn't heard any updates. So his first DL stint of the year is updated to "likely." HOORAY!
- "the Giants realize a fast start will give them a significant edge over their competition." YOU DON'T SAY! I thought it was good to lose every game in April and save your strength so you can be MONEY DOWN THE STRETCH, NERDS!
- The closing quote from Sabean: "You have the opportunity to have depth." Um, what!?
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...and from the comments when this article was posted on Facebook
This guy clearly keeps up with the news:
Jose A Vega glad they signed Timmy, now if we can get a good replacement for Molina and sign a big bat to back up the Panda
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"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Paul Fujimoto I’m concerned Panda could be another Kevin Mitchell maybe they should make another Seattle type trade.
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To be fair, I’m also pretty worried that Pablo will play 13 seasons with a 142 OPS+, 234 Home Runs, an MVP, two All-Star appearances, and have a 151 OPS+ for the Giants over the course of five seasons, and then give us a great return via trade. It keeps me up nights. :(
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I think he is worried that Sandoval is going to decapitate a cat
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 14, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
I’m concerned he will only make two AS games because I would think less-than-fat pandas deserve to make more games than that in 13 years. They are endangered after all
I think the temptation with Sandoval is to pinch yourself and think he’s too good to be true. When’s the last time we developed a player like this? You can say Matt Williams or Will Clark, but those guys were projected for greatness when they were drafted. I think that’s why fans are worried about his future.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Are fans worried about him? I haven’t noticed that at all.
Anyway, saying you’re worried he’s “another Kevin Mitchell” is just a very odd way of putting it is all. Mitchell was an amazing player who had great years for the Giants. He eventually started to break down from injuries, but not until he was a good deal older than Sandoval is now.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I think he’s talking about injuries. Mitchel was great, but played, like, 3 full seasons in his entire career. He passed 600 PA’s only once.
I was promised lasagna.
He was over 500 PA and 130 games every year from 1987-1990, though. It wasn’t until after that that he really started to break down, and by that point he was like six years older than Sandoval is now.
I figure that’s what he’s talking about, but it’s a pretty weird way of putting it.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
random fun fact about Kevin Mitchell
He was once involved in a trade that included four separate players named Kevin. Mitchell, Brown (not THE Kevin Brown), Armstrong, and McReynolds.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
My biggest question, is why someone would think we should sign a big bat, only to have them around as a backup? Have they seen our offense the last 5 years?
by Missing Barry on Feb 14, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
HEAVEN HELP ME
I’m engaging in a debate with a guy in Facebook comments – this guy:
Paul Fujimoto Save the post Josh Burnett. Sanchez will rehab diligently and be a .300 hitter. Huff will contribute 20 homers from the 6th spot. Rowand is the one that needs to step up and give them 25+ homers. They need Sanchez and Uribe in the lineup together and Renteria on the bench or gone.
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What the hell is wrong with me!?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Not enough New Year’s food, clearly. Just shrug and walk away. That’s what I do whenever I run into someone who disagrees with me.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Feb 15, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
Heh. If you look at my fanpost, you’ll see I had no New Year’s food yesterday.
I normally ignore or laugh at those kinds of things, though. I was having a terrible time getting to sleep last night – it probably put me into a lousy mood.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Heh. If you look at my fanpost, you’ll see I had no New Year’s food yesterday.
This is the whole problem right here. Needs more octopus in sriracha and har kau.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Feb 15, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Catcher Buster Posey, the organization’s top position-player prospect, will receive every opportunity to win the backup job behind Bengie Molina, though Eli Whiteside won’t go away quietly.
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"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!
WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT
WE WILL NOT VANISH, WITHOUT A FIGHT
WE’RE GOING TO LIVE ON, WE’RE GOING TO SURVIVE
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Feb 14, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, aren't they generous
Every opportunity? They won’t withhold 1 or 2 opportunities? For a backkup catcher job in THE MAJOR LEAGUES!//???1/?21
Buster should feel honored.
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how else is he going to learn to catch Lincecum and Cain?!?!?!?!
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 15, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
“Win the Back-up job”
This is by far the dumbest thing that has been said this off season. Which is saying a lot.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 15, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh competent hitter
that’s basically professional hitter. I’m gonna go break something
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I think it’s actually a poor man’s version of “professional hitter”, like the KMart brand professional hitter.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
That could be true
maybe the professional hitters were too expensive this year
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Also
Since when were Burriss, Frandsen, Lewis and both Whiteside & Posey candidates to make the team
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
gougiants wrote:
Chris and I have hope for another exciting season, fan. Unlike you and so many other so called Giants fans who get some kind of misguided adrenaline rush out of ripping on everything the Giants try to do beause you think you are smarter and more experienced that they are. Perhaps you should change your screen name to, “somet imesf anfor 51yea rs”, or “fanfor51yearswhenwe’rewinning”. Keep up the great work, Chris! Really enjoy your updates and insight. The rest of you slimeballs, how about getting off the wagon? There’s only enough room for real, orange and black bleeding, die hard Giants fans who don’t look for something to gripe about the Giants every stinking day. This is the time of year for hope and, despite our opinions of who we thought they should have picked up, just sit back with a smile on our face that another season is about to get started again with the thought that no one wins a world championship on day 1and by God, we might just have a shot!
This is the sort of thing that drives me craziest, I think: the notion that not always being happy with the way the team is run somehow makes you a bad fan. Ugh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
JUST HAVE FUN
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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ENJOY THE GAME MORE
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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GiantsWSboundin09 wrote:
Now….My lineup with DeRosa, Huff and Sanchez…..1) Velez CF 2) Sanchez/Uribe 2b 3) Nate RF 4) Pablo 3b 5) Huff/Ishi 1b 6) Molina/Posey C 7) DeRosa SS 8) Bowker RF
GiantsWSboundin09 wrote:
My Bench….Rowand, Posey, Huff, and possibly Ford, Neal, Guzman or someone else that stands out in ST -And….TRADE Lewis.
2/15/2010 4:59:31 AM
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by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
The rest of you slimeballs, how about getting off the wagon? There’s only enough room for real, orange and black bleeding, die hard Giants fans
I really hope that wagon is headed to the doctors office!
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 6:17 AM PST up reply actions
i bleed orange
I Bleed Orange
I BLEED ORANGE!
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Feb 15, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
I CUM ORANGE
I think it’s syphilis or something.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
you too? I was getting worried it might be weird
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Feb 15, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
WeAreInThis wrote:
Agree with gougiants… I’m excited just by the fact that people don’t expect us to have a losing record this year. It’s been a rough last few years but I think we’ve weathered the storm. The easiest thing you could do is point out what mistakes a GM (with a budget) has made and now look back and say what he should have done. And at the same time you don’t give him any credit for things he has done right. I thought Randy Winn, Bengie, and Omar were pretty good acquisitions…. how about Jeremy Affeldt?? Sabean get’s no credit for him? Anyways, Im done talking about the past. It’s a brand new season, and this is squad we got. Im backing us 100% for 162+ games. Go Giants!
So a Top 10ish payroll is a budget!
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by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions
And by golly, we're in this thing! Thats what the tv and urban told me atleast so I have a smile on my face.
Also, its magic inside! so start bleeding orange, slimeballs!
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Haft is writing to a general audience, not just McC readers. His job is to write stories that are accessible to the average fan of baseball. Do you really think the Giants would publish a bunch of stuff on their site that was bashing the team at all?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
As long as MLB.com and the team sites maintain the appearance of some sort of journalistic enterprise, they’re fair game.
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MLB.com and the team sites aren’t supposed to be journalistic enterprises, they’re supposed to sell MLB and the 30 teams to all of us. Asking Chris Haft to be objective about the Giants is like asking Pravda to admit Lenin might’ve gotten it wrong.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Feb 15, 2010 1:47 AM PST up reply actions
Chris Haft is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
Sounds to me like they’re claiming to be a journalistic enterprise.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Beat me to it!
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by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 6:16 AM PST up reply actions
I was wondering if other team's mlb.com writers were as peppy...
….and, yeah, looking at the Royals’ site, they have an almost identical article up.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
but also
Underlying all this is the assumption that Chris Haft doesn’t actually believe the puff and thinly veiled PR he writes. But, you know, the man was recently talking up Mike Jacobs as a potential addition in his blog. I think it’s possible that he’s just a little dim.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Despite the disclaimer, I don’t think Haft would be around very long if he continually wrote articles saying the Giants’ will stink and management did a horrible job this off season. You have to take his stories with more than a grain of salt. As for optimistic fans in general, what’s wrong with being optimistic? Pitchers and catchers are two days away. This is the time for optimism if there ever is. You can’t condemn people as idiots just because they hope the veterans that Sabean signed have a big year in 2010, even if all signs point to that not happening.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
I don’t have a problem with fans being optimistic – I used to be optimistic about the team, too, back when they deserved it! And, as I mentioned in another thread a while back, I think I’m crazily optimistic about a lot of things when it comes to this team – I think Tim Lincecum will continue to be the best pitcher in baseball for years to come, that Pablo Sandoval will only get better, that Sergio Romo will be an elite closer, that John Bowker will be a solid Major League hitter if given a chance, that Buster Posey will be the next Joe Mauer, that Roger Kieschnick will develop into a good starting right fielder, that Neal is Real, that Chris Gloor has the potential to be a really good pitcher, that Tommy Joseph will become our best first baseman since Will Clark, and that we have one of the best minor league systems in the game. How much more optimistic can I be!?
In any case, I just reserve my right to roll my eyes is all.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I have a friend that occasionally posts here, (Mordy from Monsey) and he’s so pessimistic about the upcoming season that it’s literally a chore talking to him sometimes. He even canceled his Direct TV MLB subscription. I’m so excited about the season that not only did I renew, but I also added the mlbtv.com subscription so I can watch day games at work on my new I phone. And you know what’s the funny thing about it? We both have about the same expectations for the team. The difference is that he expected the team to improve so much during this off season that they would be a World Series favorite, and he’s disgusted with the job Sabean did. Why look at things that way? Baseball’s starting again!! For all the things you mentioned and a few more, I’m excited. If everything goes wrong and the team tanks, I’ll get to see a lot more prospects as the year goes on. Man, I just love to watch baseball. I can’t imagine being down this time of year.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Oh, I’m very much looking forward to the start of baseball. Hell, I’ve been spending the offseason downloading Giants games from iTunes and watching classic games on the MLB Network because I miss baseball so damned much. Circumstances permitting, I’ll be right here in the gameday thread come opening day, cheering on the team.
But I’m still pretty disappointed by this offseason. Not so much because Sabean didn’t magically transform the team into a surefire 100 game winner, because I never expected that, but because, in my opinion, he made the exact same kinds of stupid, pointless moves that lead the team off the cliff in the first place, and because most of the moves were redundant.
There are different things entirely in my opinion.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Just like Pravda.
Yes, the Giants are the Soviet Union. rolcats for everyone!
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Feb 15, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
+1
it kind of amazes me anyone reads those stories any more. You already have the Chronicle to regurgitate the comments of Brain and Bork.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Feb 15, 2010 7:11 AM PST up reply actions
Are you Dennis Miller?
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Feb 15, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Kevin Nealon, actually.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Feb 15, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, joy.
“A full season” of Freddy Sanchez just looks better and better!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Felipe Lopez is still not signed right? Just clarifying.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Causing him to fire his agent!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’m going to enjoy the confusion and shock when the Giants win 75 games next year or something.
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I’m going to enjoy the confusion and shock when-
… the Giants win 75 games next year or something.
…Huff is permanently replaced by Ishi
…DeRosa is injured and plays like shit
…when Buster takes over for Bengie
…when Fred Lewis wins a WS and the coach of whatever team he is on says he is a invaluable starter!
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by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 6:37 AM PST up reply actions
What do you really expect from a pre-Spring Training puff piece? This isn’t about a deep exploration of the off season, it’s a “hey, the sun shining, the boys are reporting, it’s baseball time!” kind of article.
Well, for one thing, I think it’s pretty hilarious that, in such a puff piece, the best he can come up with about Huff and DeRosa is that they’re “competent.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
It really was kind of a smack-in-the-face to realize they are the only additions to last year’s club. Haft should have mentioned they re-signed Sanchez & Uribe and locked Lincecum up for two years. Fluff up the fluff piece.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Am I the only one who sees that as a good move? Mota was good last year, it’s a no-risk minor league deal, and if there’s one thing Sabean can do (and evidence suggests there is only one thing Sabean can do) it’s find cheap, effective bullpen guys in the scrap heap.
more from the Facebook comments on the article
Johnny Smith If the Giants would simply play fundamental baseball, i.g., use the sacrifice more often with position players instead of leaving the sacrifice solely to the pitcher position, the Giants will add 5-10 games in the win column. Another 5-10 games last year would have put them well into the playoffs. Instead, the Giants, like most of MLB, play for the big inning and often lose opportunities to score.
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Putting aside what you may think of the sacrifice bunt, consider this: he’s basically saying that bunting more often could potentially provide as much value as Barry Bonds did in 2003, when he was an excellent defender and posted a line of .341 / .529 / 749. Um, yeah.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
IG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Holy...
Sacrificing would have added as many as ten (10!) wins to the Giants total!
The baseball Satanist
let’s bunt every time a guy is on base, then maybe it could add 12 wins
by FluLikeSymptoms on Feb 15, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
argh I don’t think I can take another year of hearing “the little things are the problem! the little things are the problem!”
The giants are fine at bunting and the other little things. The problems are big things, like getting on base or hitting for power.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Feb 15, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
in other news
Yesterday, I watched Roger Clemens pitching in 1986. Today, I’m watching him pitch in 2006. Gotta love the MLB Network.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
1986 was his first 20 strike out game, by the way – 2006 is Game One of the World Series.
Jermaine Dye is batting right now. Somewhere, Mychael Urban has a hard-on.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
and Dye just hit a DINGER!
Somewhere, Mychael Urban just came in his pants.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Feb 15, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Err, it’s the 2005 Series. Duh.
The White Sox have Aaron Rowand AND A.J. Pierzynski. Ugh.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
And Carl Everett. Least likable team ever? Maybe not, but close.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
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by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
QUIET YOU
What can I say: it’s been a dull day in the jcb9 compound.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Most overrated home run of all time.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
HEZ A GAMER!!!!!!!!!
My career path, have you seen it?
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty shocking to watch live, though.
Also, horrible.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Roster of "Least Likable Team - All Time"
1988 Los Angeles Dodgers
Most Games by Position
C Mike Scioscia (123)
1B Franklin Stubbs (84)
2B Steve Sax (158)
3B Jeff Hamilton (105)
SS Alfredo Griffin (93)
LF Kirk Gibson (148)
CF John Shelby (140)
RF Mike Marshall (90)
SP Tim Belcher
SP Orel Hershiser
SP Tim Leary
SP Don Sutton
SP Fernando Valenzuela
RP Tim Crews
RP Brian Holton
RP Jesse Orosco
RP Alejandro Pena
CL Jay Howell
Timmy thats not a bong....
That 88 Dodger team
A 90 team OPS+.
Franklin Stubbs had a 223/288/376 92 OPS+ line at first base.
The mighty Alfredo Griffin – 199/259/253 50 OPS+.
It always amazed me that that team made the playoffs. It was, of course, mostly based off of their fantastic pitching. A 113 team ERA+.
In comparison, here’s the 2009 Giants. 81 OPS+ and 123 ERA+.
The baseball Satanist
At least the Dodgers could hang their hat on pitching.
The Cards were bellow average in both phases of the game.
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